DEVELOPER EDITION ONLY PLEASE!!!
Insert Standard Disclaimer: This is a beta rom..... probably even alpha... im not responsible for anything, including but not limited to:
your phone becoming a very expensive brick
you not geting a job promotion because you missed the call
your wife leaving you because you was out all night and she couldnt text you
your neigbor's dog spontaneously combusting
lost or stolen device because your friends were super jealous of your spiffy new rom.
you have been warned, things could happen.... ^_^
What was added?
ES File Explorer
Launcher X Beta (The X Labs)
Busybox Installer (stericson)
Xposed Installer
SuperSU (chanfire)
What was removed?
KNOX... all of it
TouchWiz Home
TouchWiz Easy Home
NFL mobile
Audible
Accuweather
IMDB
Instagram
Facebook
Kindle
S Browser
Pen.Up
S Health
most of the samsung and verizon apps are gone, anything that i could think of really, if anyone would like i can upload a zip file containing all the apps removed that you can unzip and install whichever ones you want back.
What works?
4g lte
Camera
Wifi
Root
Calls
Text
More probably but havent tried everything
What is broken?
Maybe nothing?
What do you need to do?
1. Pull the battery out of your phone, if it says DEVELOPER DEVICE then continue to step 2, if not close this thread... nothing to see here folks move along ^_^.
2. As always make a full backup of your device, just in case.
3. Wipe then Wipe again the standard Wipe in TWRP should be good.
4. Install this .zip
5. Wipe cahe and dalvik
6. Reboot
7. Post anything broken i may have missed here as well as any suggestions to improve.
If you have less than 10 post please dont spam someone elses thread just to get your 10 just send me a pm.
Where can i get this handsome beast?
<link Removed> the file has become corrupted and i have no backup of this file as my computer went kaput.
Where is all my beautiful bloat???
<link Removed> pretty much same reason, no rom means no need for the missing bloat...
Thank you guys for giving this rom a try please leave feedback if i missed anything and hit the thanks button if this helps you.
I hope you enjoy using it as much as i did making it.
Android 4.4.4 is no more for this device, look forward to some 6.0.1 developments, should see a nice kick-off now that there is a developer edition conversion for the retail versions ^_^
@mods: Please close thread as support for this rom is null.
NekoShinigami said:
DEVELOPER EDITION ONLY PLEASE!!!
Insert Standard Disclaimer: This is a beta rom..... probably even alpha... im not responsible for anything, including but not limited to:
your phone becoming a very expensive brick
you not geting a job promotion because you missed the call
your wife leaving you because you was out all night and she couldnt text you
your neigbor's dog spontaneously combusting
lost or stolen device because your friends were super jealous of your spiffy new rom.
you have been warned, things could happen.... ^_^
What was added?
ES File Explorer
Launcher X Beta (The X Labs)
Busybox Installer (stericson)
Xposed Installer
SuperSU (chanfire)
What was removed?
KNOX... all of it
TouchWiz Home
TouchWiz Easy Home
NFL mobile
Audible
Accuweather
IMDB
Instagram
Facebook
Kindle
S Browser
Pen.Up
S Health
most of the samsung and verizon apps are gone, anything that i could think of really, if anyone would like i can upload a zip file containing all the apps removed that you can unzip and install whichever ones you want back.
What works?
4g lte
Camera
Wifi
Root
Calls
Text
More probably but havent tried everything
What is broken?
Maybe nothing?
What do you need to do?
1. Pull the battery out of your phone, if it says DEVELOPER DEVICE then continue to step 2, if not close this thread... nothing to see here folks move along ^_^.
2. As always make a full backup of your device, just in case.
3. Wipe then Wipe again the standard Wipe in TWRP should be good.
4. Install this .zip
5. Wipe cahe and dalvik
6. Reboot
7. Post anything broken i may have missed here as well as any suggestions to improve.
If you have less than 10 post please dont spam someone elses thread just to get your 10 just send me a pm.
Where can i get this handsome beast?
https://www.dropbox.com/s/qldhiqbc8xqi0yx/SuperSandwich.zip?dl=0
Where is all my beautiful bloat???
https://www.dropbox.com/s/a8uo7hah4hwuzfq/bloatware.zip?dl=0
Thank you guys for giving this rom a try please leave feedback if i missed anything and hit the thanks button if this helps you.
I hope you enjoy using it as much as i did making it.
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Congrats!
Thank you, it took me a while to figure out what i was doing. I am super excited i finally was able to get a stable release.
After playing around a bit i noticed the autocomplete bar just above the keyboard with suggested words when typing is gone. I havent tried a third party keyboard to see if this is something to do with the samsung keyboard failing or if i removed something that prevents this from working correctly...
Haven't noticed any other bugs just yet.
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I have to ask what might end up being a naive question: Why is the public offered these "Developer Edition" phones? For me, it would be in hopes that enthusiast ROMs get developed for that device. But, if the retail end is never updated and never unlocked, then what good would a Developer Edition phone be, except to the singular owner? Maybe that's all it is intended to be? Just curious. I guess the name is the misnomer. Rather than Developer Edition, just call it Unlocked... It would be a cool thing if Verizon/Samsung would offer to turn our retail phones into the Developer Edition phones for a fee.
It has the do with Verizon. They can't market it as a retail unlocked device amd since it will only work with verizon they can't really say its the "global" or "international" version. I believe if they marketed the device as "Verizon unlocked device" they would have to also offer it at a subsidized prive or "upgrade" and it would be regulated by verizon. We have seen what Verizon does to phones, I would really like if they never touched the devices.
Thay said the developer edition is to encourage developers to buy the device and make not just roms but apps as well. It would.be more so marketed towards someone who is not using this device as their daily driver but want to grab one just to tinker and make neat things specific to the device or use it to test things they've already built for compatibility so theey can update their apps to rin on this device as well.
Conaumers have never used anything with android on it strictly as planned though. If that was the case we would jave.none of this amazing developmemt, thats what I love about the android OS its so flexible.
Anyhow back on track, did you test the rom? What did you think? Should I include anything else or remove something else?
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NekoShinigami said:
It has the do with Verizon. They can't market it as a retail unlocked device amd since it will only work with verizon they can't really say its the "global" or "international" version. I believe if they marketed the device as "Verizon unlocked device" they would have to also offer it at a subsidized prive or "upgrade" and it would be regulated by verizon. We have seen what Verizon does to phones, I would really like if they never touched the devices.
Thay said the developer edition is to encourage developers to buy the device and make not just roms but apps as well. It would.be more so marketed towards someone who is not using this device as their daily driver but want to grab one just to tinker and make neat things specific to the device or use it to test things they've already built for compatibility so theey can update their apps to rin on this device as well.
Conaumers have never used anything with android on it strictly as planned though. If that was the case we would jave.none of this amazing developmemt, thats what I love about the android OS its so flexible.
Anyhow back on track, did you test the rom? What did you think? Should I include anything else or remove something else?
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Thanks for the response. I hadn't really consider the making of apps as a reason.. LOL.
I don't have the Developer Edition yet, just the retail, so I have't run the ROM. I am seriously considering selling my retail to get the DE so that I can get onto Android 5.x. Every phone that I have ever owned was rootable (and I have had a lot of phones), but this is the first one that has no root in sight and no update in sight, so, I am considering the Note Edge DE or the Note 4 DE. (Honestly, I am hedging toward the Note 4 DE. I had the Note 4 just before this Note Edge and prefer the 4 a bit more). Anyway, that is why I am lurking in here, trying to get info on the DE.
The note 4 has more support for sure. And it is hard to find a decent note edge case. O couldn't see myself ever going back to abphone without an edge though. (not the silly s6 edges either, I need a real edge.) In any case no matter what phone you choose I am sure you'll enjoy it. These note series phones are my favorites so far. Could onot be better if they had included a physical keyboard like the droids had back in the day. Physical keyboards are boss. good luck with whichever device you pick, if that happens to be the edge let me know what you think.
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Could you pm me the links to all the needed files to do the extraction of the boot and every thing needed to make a stock tar from my phone? Also the links to the kitchen and such?
Thanks in advance.
I wasn't able to make a stock tar flashable in odin.
However to get a system tar which isn't flashable but can be opened in 7zip and extracted to give you all your syatem files you just need to open the terminal emulator, type su then hit enter so you can elevate your session to root. Then type tar -c system/* >> sdcard/system.tar then you'll get system.tar on the root of your internal storage.
Then to get the boot image you need to dl some files from http://www.androidforims.com/threads/without-pc-unpack-edit-repack-boot-img.811999/ and follow his tutorial for the extract part. But our file system is a bit different so the command is different.
dd if=/dev/block/platform/msm_sdcc.1/by-name/boot of=/data/local/tmp/boot.img
Then use root explorer to find the file in data/local/tmp folder.
The kitchen I used to make my custom was archi. Get it @ http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2597220
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NekoShinigami said:
I wasn't able to make a stock tar flashable in odin.
However to get a system tar which isn't flashable but can be opened in 7zip and extracted to give you all your syatem files you just need to open the terminal emulator, type su then hit enter so you can elevate your session to root. Then type tar -c system/* >> sdcard/system.tar then you'll get system.tar on the root of your internal storage.
Then to get the boot image you need to dl some files from http://www.androidforims.com/threads/without-pc-unpack-edit-repack-boot-img.811999/ and follow his tutorial for the extract part. But our file system is a bit different so the command is different.
dd if=/dev/block/platform/msm_sdcc.1/by-name/boot of=/data/local/tmp/boot.img
Then use root explorer to find the file in data/local/tmp folder.
The kitchen I used to make my custom was archi. Get it @ http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2597220
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Cool deal, thank you. Going to get it going asap, but I just found out my dad has bone cancer so it will probably get back burner'ed for a while.
Any idea how to make a flashable?
Other than making a rom like I did I wouldn't know how to make anything flashable. I'm really new to this, this is the first time I've done anything like this. You could ask around the other developer's threads or send one a pm. But I'm sure the best we can do is a rom flashable in twrp or cwm.
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Thanks for working on this...What version of android is this base? Thx!
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Android 4.4.4 I am looking into what it would take to get a lolipop rom on our devices, and also I am looking into a full aosp build to completely remove touchwiz. For now I am happy getting the tw launchers out of here and all the junk apps. Look for more of.my.stuff in the future I am far from done with this rom or this device.
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NekoShinigami said:
Thank you, it took me a while to figure out what i was doing. I am super excited i finally was able to get a stable release.
After playing around a bit i noticed the autocomplete bar just above the keyboard with suggested words when typing is gone. I havent tried a third party keyboard to see if this is something to do with the samsung keyboard failing or if i removed something that prevents this from working correctly...
Haven't noticed any other bugs just yet.
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To fix the no auto complete on keyboard open your keyboard hit settings and download your language again and that should fix it.
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Awesome. that's probably it I must have deleted that in the rom. I'm using a different keyboard though and the bar is there. I was just thinking for someone else using the rom and wants to use the swype feature on stock it may be a problem. Ill look into what I may have deleted that would have erased the dictionary.
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How to install
I have Dev Ed., how do I install as a .zip?
TIA.
NekoShinigami said:
DEVELOPER EDITION ONLY PLEASE!!!
Insert Standard Disclaimer: This is a beta rom..... probably even alpha... im not responsible for anything, including but not limited to:
your phone becoming a very expensive brick
you not geting a job promotion because you missed the call
your wife leaving you because you was out all night and she couldnt text you
your neigbor's dog spontaneously combusting
lost or stolen device because your friends were super jealous of your spiffy new rom.
you have been warned, things could happen.... ^_^
What was added?
ES File Explorer
Launcher X Beta (The X Labs)
Busybox Installer (stericson)
Xposed Installer
SuperSU (chanfire)
What was removed?
KNOX... all of it
TouchWiz Home
TouchWiz Easy Home
NFL mobile
Audible
Accuweather
IMDB
Instagram
Facebook
Kindle
S Browser
Pen.Up
S Health
most of the samsung and verizon apps are gone, anything that i could think of really, if anyone would like i can upload a zip file containing all the apps removed that you can unzip and install whichever ones you want back.
What works?
4g lte
Camera
Wifi
Root
Calls
Text
More probably but havent tried everything
What is broken?
Maybe nothing?
What do you need to do?
1. Pull the battery out of your phone, if it says DEVELOPER DEVICE then continue to step 2, if not close this thread... nothing to see here folks move along ^_^.
2. As always make a full backup of your device, just in case.
3. Wipe then Wipe again the standard Wipe in TWRP should be good.
4. Install this .zip
5. Wipe cahe and dalvik
6. Reboot
7. Post anything broken i may have missed here as well as any suggestions to improve.
If you have less than 10 post please dont spam someone elses thread just to get your 10 just send me a pm.
Where can i get this handsome beast?
https://www.dropbox.com/s/qldhiqbc8xqi0yx/SuperSandwich.zip?dl=0
Where is all my beautiful bloat???
https://www.dropbox.com/s/a8uo7hah4hwuzfq/bloatware.zip?dl=0
Thank you guys for giving this rom a try please leave feedback if i missed anything and hit the thanks button if this helps you.
I hope you enjoy using it as much as i did making it.
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In twrp just wipe then install
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No TWRP
Haven't got TWRP.
For some reason can't get to install. Fail in Odin.
TIA.
NekoShinigami said:
In twrp just wipe then install
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That's odd. Should be able to install. Try using the method in the other thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3103782
I can only think of a few reasons TWRP would fail to install. Check the usual stuff like cables and md5 checksums, then try to see if you deleted aboot somehow.
If you lost that then you will need one of the more experienced folks here at XDA to help recover that, if even possible. The only methods I have available to offer you though would require you first have either TWRP or CWM installed.
Hope you get this resolved though. Let me know if you get through it.
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Boy it'd be nice if Verizon just gave us a one-time option to convert our Note Edges to Developer Editions. Otherwise, I don't see there being much of a future for the phone.
Related
untill it starts to be in all the roms, any way to flash this?
i have the apk, tried to do it through App Installer
gonna try adb next
a few people are having problems with getting it to work on cyanogen based roms
I assume, though I could be totally wrong, that there will be no need to flash this or install it. Your market will just show up looking like that someday. In engadget's post about it, they mention "Google's pushing the update to every Android 1.6-and-above device over the next couple of weeks".
im not sure when ill add it ,, looks like some people are haven issues with apps ,, also not sure if i like the fact that if u pay for a app u only have 15 minutes to ask for a refund ,, what if the app works fine , then later on it doesnt work right? i guess u bought a bad app lol i dunno not sure if i like that
As far as I can tell, it's all just a new interface, plus, they changed things like only having 15mins now to get a refund instead of the 24hrs... which is kind of retarded.
The new market is working fine, all apps dloaded with it stick after reboot. If you're using this on a 2.1 rom, delete the Vendor.odex file in system/app if your rom isn't deodex'd already.
if you're on a CM rom, just rename the .apk to Vendor.apk (if it's named something else) and put it in system/app using adb or a file manager.
I attached it already renamed if anyone wants it...
So this is not a pushed update as engadget stated? How are all the other non-rooted android users gonna get it?
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truelove79 said:
So this is not a pushed update as engadget stated? How are all the other non-rooted android users gonna get it?
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I'm not sure exactly, my guess would be through your google account, since it isn't a carrier specific update...
anyone know the answer to this?
I can make a flashable zip for those interested... even though all of you should be able to use adb or a file manager and place it in system/app by now
A flashable zip would be great. How did the market get the new "similar" and "related" tabs? I assumed this update would be pushed the same way. Btw, where are you getting the file to even make a flashable zip? Is it in the Android SDK or something?
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truelove79 said:
A flashable zip would be great. How did the market get the new "similar" and "related" tabs? I assumed this update would be pushed the same way. Btw, where are you getting the file to even make a flashable zip? Is it in the Android SDK or something?
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you can find it on a few sites for download
Any ideas I installed the new market wiped, cleared data and all I can do is open the market up. As soon as I select an app it force closes on me.
truelove79 said:
A flashable zip would be great. How did the market get the new "similar" and "related" tabs? I assumed this update would be pushed the same way. Btw, where are you getting the file to even make a flashable zip? Is it in the Android SDK or something?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=9786339#post9786339
This zip works great for me so far. Though I dont like the new market. The tabs made it easier to flip between things and the rotating apps at the top is slow on a slow phone. It looks like they tried to make it look nicer (and failed in my opinion) but ended up making it less functional.
Google apps always look simple and sophisticated. This Market overhaul looks overdone and tacky with too much "pizzaz".
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I flashed the market update. It's been working fine on nonsensikal 15.2.
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Awesome, thanks for the feedback guys.
So I didn't flash the new market, but I have new features in my 'stock' market. Is this the new market that is all over the place?
meanm50 said:
So I didn't flash the new market, but I have new features in my 'stock' market. Is this the new market that is all over the place?
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Yes
Hey all, I started a thread in Apps & Theming for this...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=871510
That's funny...it just showed up yesterday. Which I find odd because I am on Cricket. Oh well! It's nothing that special...but the 15m return policy is horse $***.
meanm50 said:
It's nothing that special...but the 15m return policy is horse $***.
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Agreed!
hmmm it might just be preinstalled on new android devices, since i dont think any carrier would do a OTA update, so maybe only rooted users will have the new market for a while?
any other thoughts?
flashed thanks man, works fine on froshedyo v7 2.2.1
Android Market instalation Problem, help me please...
Hi all !
Thank for your read and excuse me because i am a french engeneer and i speak english a little bit...
I got a robotpad who work by Android 1.6 version and i don't have the android-market application installed...
I hope to have it because i can't read any video, pdf file, word file, txt file...I have to instal a lot of application.
But i can't.
I found a lot of links where i can't download a lot of .apk file but when i can to launch it i have a error window : "A problem occurred while parsing the kit".
I have the same problème with every .apk file and it's a realy probleme for me because it's a christmas gift for my wif.
Help me please and thanks a lot
tazzpatriot said:
im not sure when ill add it ,, looks like some people are haven issues with apps ,, also not sure if i like the fact that if u pay for a app u only have 15 minutes to ask for a refund ,, what if the app works fine , then later on it doesnt work right? i guess u bought a bad app lol i dunno not sure if i like that
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Yeah, that shocked me. 15 minutes isn't much time to make sure an app works fine for your purposes. For apps that have free/trial versions, then you can check those out first, but what if it's the paid options that don't sufficiently work. I think one or two hours is reasonable, but 15 minutes is ridiculous.
I think ROMs should keep the current version of the market and people can use flashable zips to go to the new version if they want.
Hey all,
This just a conversation to get me to finally bite the bullet and finally root and install a ROM.
With all the delays or possible cancelations of JB on my i717, I have just about convinced myself to root and installation a rom. Avatar is looking good.
I have been using the go launcher and all its sub systems: phone, IM, twitter all the stuff so I need to figure out to remove all the go replace sub components. Is there a panel on one of the releases that makes this easy?
So do yous guys still think the i717 will still get an official 717 update?
Also, if looks like jb will remove the ability to move apps to the sd. At lease it did on my note 10.1. Think they will do the same if they release jb on the 717?
I read through all the fans and understand backup the IMs, data, contacts. What about apps (I have a ton and chagrin having reinstall
So first root, use titanium backup and then install a ROM? Also what is a modem? Usually I am familiar with the term as in phone interface. What is modem rom for?
Thoughts and answers welcome!
Thanks for everyone time.
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Honeybadger said:
Hey all,
This just a conversation to get me to finally bite the bullet and finally root and install a ROM.
With all the delays or possible cancelations of JB on my i717, I have just about convinced myself to root and installation a rom. Avatar is looking good.
I have been using the go launcher and all its sub systems: phone, IM, twitter all the stuff so I need to figure out to remove all the go replace sub components. Is there a panel on one of the releases that makes this easy?
So do yous guys still think the i717 will still get an official 717 update?
Also, if looks like jb will remove the ability to move apps to the sd. At lease it did on my note 10.1. Think they will do the same if they release jb on the 717?
I read through all the fans and understand backup the IMs, data, contacts. What about apps (I have a ton and chagrin having reinstall
So first root, use titanium backup and then install a ROM? Also what is a modem? Usually I am familiar with the term as in phone interface. What is modem rom for?
Thoughts and answers welcome!
Thanks for everyone time.
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+1 vote for root!
I bet the original note gets a JB update. But I also bet the Note 3 will be out by then and Note 2 people will be begging for their key lime pie!!!
It doesn't matter what phone your on, your always going to be waiting for an update of some sort. So why wait... root it! It unlocks SO much potential in these phones. I've been flashing roms for years and love it! I've never had any problems because I've always done a lil research on software out there and followed the directions to a TEE! Since you're new at this I will direct you to this thread. Read the first 3 posts. They will answer 90% of your questions, especially post 3. Once your schooled and brain has cooled a lil, this is basically what you gotta do to get started.
So happy reading and rooting!
440bro said:
+1 vote for root!
I bet the original note gets a JB update. But I also bet the Note 3 will be out by then and Note 2 people will be begging for their key lime pie!!!
It doesn't matter what phone your on, your always going to be waiting for an update of some sort. So why wait... root it! It unlocks SO much potential in these phones. I've been flashing roms for years and love it! I've never had any problems because I've always done a lil research on software out there and followed the directions to a TEE! Since you're new at this I will direct you to this thread. Read the first 3 posts. They will answer 90% of your questions, especially post 3. Once your schooled and brain has cooled a lil, this is basically what you gotta do to get started.
So happy reading and rooting!
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Thanks very much for the opinion, advice and experience!
Reading now.
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For the remaining 10% off your questions not found in those threads or searching, feel free to ask!
You don't need root permission to flash a recovery, a custom rom, or a different modem.
But with regards to rooting, its not like you're climbing Mt. Everest naked without oxygen. Its a two minute project.
And you only need to root if there is some app or some system action you need to do that having a stock system won't allow.
If you're undecided, then you don't need to do it. Those that need to just do it.
440bro said:
It doesn't matter what phone your on, your always going to be waiting for an update of some sort.
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That's true except for one product line.
NEXUS DEVICES
Even the nexus s, that was released with the debut of GINGERBREAD is officially supported by Google with a 4.2.2 firmware of its own.
rangercaptain said:
You don't need root permission to flash a recovery, a custom rom, or a different modem.
But with regards to rooting, its not like you're climbing Mt. Everest naked without oxygen. Its a two minute project.
And you only need to root if there is some app or some system action you need to do that having a stock system won't allow.
If you're undecided, then you don't need to do it. Those that need to just do it.
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What about being to move apps to sd?
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Once rooted you will have the ability to move apps to sd card using a separate app.
440bro said:
Once rooted you will have the ability to move apps to sd card using a separate app.
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^that
and also you can remove applications placed by the phone company that sometimes only eat some of the battery, even if you never even open them!
You can remove ad banners off the browser as well! saving data if you are not on unlimited plan(like myself)
hmm.. personally i root because of that reason, the ad blocking on the browser(i don't mind them on the apps unless they're sketching apps)
2nd reason would be being able to use the app named "autostarts" which controls the autorun's of any app on your phone! Wisely used, you can stop user apps from restarting themselves and such, just never use on system apps and that means more ram and more battery
rangercaptain said:
You don't need root permission to flash a recovery, a custom rom, or a different modem.
But with regards to rooting, its not like you're climbing Mt. Everest naked without oxygen. Its a two minute project.
And you only need to root if there is some app or some system action you need to do that having a stock system won't allow.
If you're undecided, then you don't need to do it. Those that need to just do it.
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Maybe it isn't climbing Everest, but I do rely on my phone and in turn I need it reliable. Lockups and waiting for reboots is a worry.
I need apps to work at least 95 percent of the time. I understand and occasionally sunspot caused glitch is acceptable but should be occasional. So yes, I do worry about my constant companion.
I am not just talking about rooting but finding the right ROM which will make my phone more usable and more reliable than the At&t stock rom, just trying to find the right one and install it right the first time.
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PrincessKiwi said:
^that
and also you can remove applications placed by the phone company that sometimes only eat some of the battery, even if you never even open them!
You can remove ad banners off the browser as well! saving data if you are not on unlimited plan(like myself)
hmm.. personally i root because of that reason, the ad blocking on the browser(i don't mind them on the apps unless they're sketching apps)
2nd reason would be being able to use the app named "autostarts" which controls the autorun's of any app on your phone! Wisely used, you can stop user apps from restarting themselves and such, just never use on system apps and that means more ram and more battery
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Your advice, wisdom and time are heeded and appreciated!
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Honeybadger said:
Your advice, wisdom and time are heeded and appreciated!
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the best part is it is very easy to do! even a silly girl like me could root and do all this "mt everest" stuff ehehe its very simple!
and really nothing bad will happen to your phone and i assume you take good care of it :highfive:
i dont evne mind those warrantys things, i take care of my androids as i would a pet or something
and make sure they come in good state and all when out of the box
when i had my first android some years ago i softbricked it and cried! on my first attempt.. because i skipped one step(NEVER SKIP A STEP) but then i saw there's solution to everything.. unless it exploded or something but that never happens yay :victory:
and now i feel these things are useless without root permissions.. it's the first thing i do the moment i get them and come back home! :fingers-crossed:
PrincessKiwi said:
the best part is it is very easy to do! even a silly girl like me could root and do all this "mt everest" stuff ehehe its very simple!
and really nothing bad will happen to your phone and i assume you take good care of it :highfive:
i dont evne mind those warrantys things, i take care of my androids as i would a pet or something
and make sure they come in good state and all when out of the box
when i had my first android some years ago i softbricked it and cried! on my first attempt.. because i skipped one step(NEVER SKIP A STEP) but then i saw there's solution to everything.. unless it exploded or something but that never happens yay :victory:
and now i feel these things are useless without root permissions.. it's the first thing i do the moment i get them and come back home! :fingers-crossed:
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Thanks for sharing your thoughts and experience!
You don't need a rooted phone to install roms. Just a PC, cable, and Odin software.
What you could possibly need is to install a custom recovery like TWRP. That is WAY more important that worrying about rooting your phone. Why? Because you could install roms from your phone and skip the PC. All non-stock roms are already rooted.
You have 16gigs of internal memory for apps - thats like about 200 apps, so you don't need to move them to external sd card.
What you should do is make sure all those apps store their data on the external card. Then you have protected your data and kept your memory for apps.
What app/process you you need to do that requires root permission of your file system? Every concern you mentioned has nothing to do with root permisions of your file system.
Maybe your question should be "Why should I flash non-stock roms over the stock Gingerbread I have now? A Conversation"
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And my answer is use the latest N7005 ICS ROM because it is rooted, has no carrier apps installed and is fast and smooth, and since it is stock, everything functions correctly.
If you want dependable, don't go past 4.04 ICS ROMs, because above that, the ROMs come from other phones and developers have to squeeze them into our phone. The result is random reboots, freezing, main features not working (TV out, s-pen, Bluetooth connectivity issues, to name a few main ones).
Everyone else is going to argue to defend their reason for what they did to their phone -- I answered based on your stated needs.
Good luck, I hope you get your phone to a place you're satisfied with.
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You have 16gigs of internal memory for apps - thats like about 200 apps, so you don't need to move them to external sd card.
What you should do is make sure all those apps store their data on the external card. Then you have protected your data and kept your memory for apps.
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How do make apps store data on the ext card while keeping those apps internal?
rangercaptain said:
You don't need a rooted phone to install roms. Just a PC, cable, and Odin software.
What you could possibly need is to install a custom recovery like TWRP. That is WAY more important that worrying about rooting your phone. Why? Because you could install roms from your phone and skip the PC. All non-stock roms are already rooted.
You have 16gigs of internal memory for apps - thats like about 200 apps, so you don't need to move them to external sd card.
What you should do is make sure all those apps store their data on the external card. Then you have protected your data and kept your memory for apps.
What app/process you you need to do that requires root permission of your file system? Every concern you mentioned has nothing to do with root permisions of your file system.
Maybe your question should be "Why should I flash non-stock roms over the stock Gingerbread I have now? A Conversation"
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And my answer is use the latest N7005 ICS ROM because it is rooted, has no carrier apps installed and is fast and smooth, and since it is stock, everything functions correctly.
If you want dependable, don't go past 4.04 ICS ROMs, because above that, the ROMs come from other phones and developers have to squeeze them into our phone. The result is random reboots, freezing, main features not working (TV out, s-pen, Bluetooth connectivity issues, to name a few main ones).
Everyone else is going to argue to defend their reason for what they did to their phone -- I answered based on your stated needs.
Good luck, I hope you get your phone to a place you're satisfied with.
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Thanks for the advice, one of the reasons I am looking at upgrading is I also want google now which only cones with jb.
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That's a good reason. But our JB ROMs are the result of great effort and professionalism from our developers, but they are experimental and have issues. So to gain some features, you will definitely lose some.
I have been using 4.1.# then 4.2.2 and I think I'm going back to the N7005 ROM because I miss the features I bought the phone for. Anyway, as someone said, read and decide what the tradeoffs are, and you can always go backwards.
Ok, decided to go with Kangparanoid rom... Right now I have a stock unrooted ROM. What is the best way to create a perfect backup of what I have now to restore current state.
Also is there an easy way to restore all my apps (include what's been moved to my external sd card) post jb upgrade?
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Honeybadger said:
Ok, decided to go with Kangparanoid rom... Right now I have a stock unrooted ROM. What is the best way to create a perfect backup of what I have now to restore current state.
Also is there an easy way to restore all my apps (include what's been moved to my external sd card) post jb upgrade?
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Nice rom choice! I'm actually using it right now!!
I vote for titanium backup to backup all your stuff. I use the pro version so I can't remember if you can move apps to sd card in the free version or not. Once you open titanium you have it backup EVERYTHING! It will backup your apps, call logs, text messages, wifi passwords, bookmarks, alarms, etc..... Do this on your phone now. Then root your phone and make a nandroid backup in recovery. Install your rom and sign into your phone using the same gmail acct you had previously. You'll find that most of your apps will begin to reinstall themselves. Once you got titanium on your new rom installed open it but do not, I repeat do NOT restore everything! Titanium backs up system files that shouldn't be restored because they were from your previous rom. Just click individual apps that you want to restore. Titanium color codes everything nicely. System files are red and mean business! Apps installed already are white. Your call logs and messages will be yellow. Those you can restore. Backed up apps not installed will have a line thru them. I've been using titanium for years since android 1.5 came out. So it works on any rom!
Happy rooting and flashing!
440bro said:
Nice rom choice! I'm actually using it right now!!
I vote for titanium backup to backup all your stuff. I use the pro version so I can't remember if you can move apps to sd card in the free version or not. Once you open titanium you have it backup EVERYTHING! It will backup your apps, call logs, text messages, wifi passwords, bookmarks, alarms, etc..... Do this on your phone now. Then root your phone and make a nandroid backup in recovery. Install your rom and sign into your phone using the same gmail acct you had previously. You'll find that most of your apps will begin to reinstall themselves. Once you got titanium on your new rom installed open it but do not, I repeat do NOT restore everything! Titanium backs up system files that shouldn't be restored because they were from your previous rom. Just click individual apps that you want to restore. Titanium color codes everything nicely. System files are red and mean business! Apps installed already are white. Your call logs and messages will be yellow. Those you can restore. Backed up apps not installed will have a line thru them. I've been using titanium for years since android 1.5 came out. So it works on any rom!
Happy rooting and flashing!
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Thank you Thank you! I have had titanium backup for year but only on an old tablet that I can't do anything with anymore. It's rooted but no roms available for it.
Thought I would have to root the phone before I could back it up, but will follow you plan.
Thanks again!
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Hey everyone, I was wondering if anyone has been able to get their hands on the Optical Reader APK. I would really like to use it, but haven't been able to find anywhere on the internets that someone has uploaded it. While I am competent in basic root, etc. I don't know how to pull this from any roms myself. Would really appreciate any help if someone has the time to upload it as an APK, since I'm not rooted. Thanks!
I have been searching for the program as well all week and I've come to a couple conclusions:
There is one individual from the T-Mobile forums looking to help us less fortunate (Verizon) users with the .APK file, but unfortunately there is a .odex attached and he hasn't gotten into deconstructing that yet.
A lot of users are suggesting downloading a program called 'CamCard' from the Samsung App Store (also removed from our phone but downloadable). While this seems like a nice substitution (which I haven't tried), it seems it's only for the business card aspect, and not the all in one package deal that optical offers.
Update: If you do decide to go with 'CamCard', you would also want to add Photo Reader, but you still lose out on translation. 2 out of 3 features ain't bad.
RUMOR: It seems that someone was able to get a hold of Samsung, and confirmed that Big Red did remove the program. From what some users are saying (from their contact with customer support) is that Verizon merely disabled the program and may push it out in a future update. I've attempted to go through every system file and folder but wasn't able to come up with anything, so most likely it's just gone.
I'll be sure to come back and update this if I read any more information.
Stay away from CamCard. It's a piece of ****. I bought it 3 years ago i think it was and when I requested support they gave none so I disputed the charges with my bank and got refunded, It's probably the worst program I ever used. Funny thing is, I can still use it an update it with no issues.
Some of the answers are above. Using Hyperdrive RLS 4 ROM, which got Optical Reader from the international version. However, when you open it, it tries to update on Samsung Apps, and gives you an error that the device does not support it, and shuts it down. Tried getting it on Samsung Apps, and again gives an error that the device does not support it. CamCard is really for business cards only. Google Goggles does not do as great a job either (at least the formating sucks). Until then, I will practice patience....
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Some of the answers are above. Using Hyperdrive RLS 4 ROM, which got Optical Reader from the international version. However, when you open it, it tries to update on Samsung Apps, and gives you an error that the device does not support it, and shuts it down. Tried getting it on Samsung Apps, and again gives an error that the device does not support it. CamCard is really for business cards only. Google Goggles does not do as great a job either (at least the formating sucks). Until then, I will practice patience....
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Same experience as you, (with the exception that I am running stock rooted) it appears that the file it is trying to download is a database, and it is just over 50 meg.
I've read the suggestions to download CamCard, but for me 1) It just looks shady (IMO) and 2) It looks to only be of use for business cards. So I plan on staying away from CamCard. I have used Google Goggles in the past, and while it works, Samsung's Optical Reader looks awesome, and I'm really itching to play with it. I appreciate the responses, really. Guess until someone has time to put it together, I will just have to patiently wait and continue to use Google Goggles.
Well, I guess as just a minor update:
I was able to find both the APK and ODEX files from somewhere in the depths that is XDA. I attempted to move both files into the system/apps folder and change the permissions to rw-r--r--, but after several restarts and do overs, I'm not having much luck on that front. There was one suggestions (via Hyper thread) that I would have to change the build.prop file device.name, but I would like to avoid making edits to the build.prop if possible.
Any suggestions?
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Well, I guess as just a minor update:
I was able to find both the APK and ODEX files from somewhere in the depths that is XDA. I attempted to move both files into the system/apps folder and change the permissions to rw-r--r--, but after several restarts and do overs, I'm not having much luck on that front. There was one suggestions (via Hyper thread) that I would have to change the build.prop file device.name, but I would like to avoid making edits to the build.prop if possible.
Any suggestions?
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Wonder if you can change the build prop, then get it from Samsung then change it back?
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gadget! said:
Same experience as you, (with the exception that I am running stock rooted) it appears that the file it is trying to download is a database, and it is just over 50 meg.
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Running Hyperdrive 5.0 (before it was removed in 5.5). It works for a few seconds then, I get a black screen, then "Unfortunately, Optical Reader has stopped." .. Funny thing is it is working fine up until this point (the few seconds). Almost (just almost) feels like there is a service running in the background looking for, and killing this task. Grr Verizon.
(Crappy picture attached, could not screenshot the app)
I've got the apk and odex file pulled from an ATT GS4. Not rooted (and still not ready/willing to root. Eventually, maybe), so can't just drop them in sys/apps. Try to install and it acts like it is installing, then tells me application not installed. While I am capable of properly rooting a phone, I'm still a noob in terms of porting an app. Read somewhere on XDA that it probably needs a signed key for my Verizon GS4. So now I'm reading up on android app development and how to do that. Still learning so it will be a while before I make any progress. Anyone more skilled than I am that would like to take a stab at making a distributable APK that works on my Verizon GS4? You would be my hero. I can upload the files I have if so.
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Do NOT use the odex file. It is probably used in phones that aren't verizon and has flags, so when they mismatch on app vs device it'll FC. Let the device build its own ODEX. Likely needs to be a /system app too. Try getting a build.prop from a T-Mobile user and editing a few lines from Verizon like brand, name, device, board, etc to a T-Mobile one. (installing their build.prop might work as well but idk). You could use a ROM like Synergy to block their "phone home" stuff or something.
I'm just spouting ideas here. They may or may not work.
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Scott that makes CleanROM threw this together, flashable zip in recovery. Working for me on Odexed version of cleanrom 1.6.5 Verizon.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2352726
TH3 ST1G said:
Scott that makes CleanROM threw this together, flashable zip in recovery. Working for me on Odexed version of cleanrom 1.6.5 Verizon.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2352726
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If anyone still wants this, here's the stock NC5 Samsung optical reader apk. I just followed the directions on the main Google code page for baksmali and smali to deodex and run this on custom ROMs. I can attach the deodexed version too if needed.
Didn't really know if this was the right place to post this, but I was just wondering what everyone uses their rooted me7 S4 for? Like what sort of apps do you utilize since there isn't much as far as customizing that we can do without an unlocked bootloader. Just a discussion for everyone to spitball in while we wait for the next android god to unlock our phones!
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Used to do it for the different ROMs and using the MODs.
Now I've kind of outgrown the whole "crack-flashing" phase, and just root it to try any new ground-breaking MOD/ROM/App, etc.
Also, I just love knowing that I have the freedom of being Rooted.
XDA community is beautiful.
It's easier just to name the apps I mainly use when rooted:
AdAway (ad blocker)
Titanium Backup (backup app)
DroidWall (firewall)
Also uninstalling/freezing bloatware. Of course, it's awesome because you can flash ROMs, too.
Theming and removing bloat
I rooted so I could use Wallet, a few other apps and to remove bloat. I can't stand the crap Verizon puts on their phones. 3+ years ago, I'd flash a rom almost daily but I too have grown out of the crack flashing phase.
Well, at first I used admin/sudo/root to learn what made my computer work, and consequently what made it stop working, and how to repair things when the system didn't like what I did to it. Then how to make the computer more responsive through config edits.
When I got my first andriod it was pretty much the above all over again but way littler. I don't think I can count how many times I've soft bricked my phones by poking around in file systems I shouldn't have been poking around in.
Then I focused on how to make my devices faster without using prebuilt "OMGITSFASTHUMINAHUMINAHUMINA" script pack zips found across the internet and here. So learned how scripts worked in general to automate a lot of mundane functions.
Then, My buddy Kyle was working on a performance kang of liquid for the DX. I offered to help get more performance out of it. And then I eventually took over the ROM building in that project and a bunch of others for that series of devices.
Root isn't so much to me about "check it out bro I'm rooted, I've got stock cyanogenmod10 on, yeah high five" as it is about what I'm able to do with that ability and more importantly what I'm able to learn by actually using that ability. That's why I try to make my updater scripts print on screen what the script is doing... To potentially help someone who didn't know what was going on potentially learn a little bit.
Besides all that, I enjoy theming my UI. And with how much I end up flashing ROMs RomToolbox Pro has been my go to for app backups. :good:
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Theoretically speaking you could run another ROM assuming it's compatible with the stock kernel.
It almost begs the question, maybe it's time for an In-Android (runtime) ROM flashing tool non-dependent on recovery. You wouldn't gain the other benefits of a normal recovery but you'd at least be able to flash ROM's, sans certain elements.
Aside from the performance and mod benefits, I find it therapeutic. Everytime I freeze/uninstall Vznavigator, Back up assistant plus, Verizon tones or anything Verizon related app I feel good knowing im doing mankind a favor by eliminating an atrocious and insulting excuse of an app.
Plus...theres nothing better than the feeling you get when you toggle that wifi hotspot switch on, especially after you've just successfully upgraded and kept your unlimited data by enduring the long, grueling and degrading task of dealing with the incompetence that is Vzw customer service.
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I prefer to root just because of the awesome features.. Open source will always be popular and gives everyone their own chance to be different.
Remove bloatware, remove the persistent WiFi on the dropdown (which eats battery life), adaway so I get rid of stupid ads (I prefer to pay for the app and not the ads). ROM's when the bootloader gets unlocked (again).
myn said:
Theoretically speaking you could run another ROM assuming it's compatible with the stock kernel.
It almost begs the question, maybe it's time for an In-Android (runtime) ROM flashing tool non-dependent on recovery. You wouldn't gain the other benefits of a normal recovery but you'd at least be able to flash ROM's, sans certain elements.
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This would be great
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I'm rooted for, TitaniumBackup, AdFree, Tasker (disable/enable pattern). No more ROM flashing for me even though I was able to save MDK.
Adaway
Titanium Bakcup
Custom ROM
Root Call Blocker
WiFi Tether TrevE Mod
Greenify
WiFi Pass Recovery
etc. :cyclops:
I have TiBU and that's it from everything you guys have listed lol. I read that root call blocker wasn't working properly? And this ad blocker sounds awesome. Also, how do you block the persistent wifi that eats battery? Maybe thats a dumb question haha.
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I have TiBU and that's it from everything you guys have listed lol. I read that root call blocker wasn't working properly? And this ad blocker sounds awesome. Also, how do you block the persistent wifi that eats battery? Maybe thats a dumb question haha.
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Ask and you shall receive. I did a quick Google search and found a few threads on this.
http://www.droid-life.com/2012/07/0...g-wifi-notification-on-the-verizon-galaxy-s3/
http://androidcommunity.com/how-to-...-notification-on-verizon-galaxy-s-4-20130527/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1761900
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=41940273
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2290634
Awesome thanks very much! I'll have to check this out and shut that annoyance down.
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Well I did a bit of digging further and found this info. The YouTube video and DroidForums thread requires custom recovery, but the XDA-Devs link at the bottom seems to have a method for ME7 FW release. Trying that tomorrow.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DT0QvmeHt0U
http://www.droidforums.net/forum/sa...fi-notifications-smart-stay-eye-pulldown.html
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2297213
myn said:
Theoretically speaking you could run another ROM assuming it's compatible with the stock kernel.
It almost begs the question, maybe it's time for an In-Android (runtime) ROM flashing tool non-dependent on recovery. You wouldn't gain the other benefits of a normal recovery but you'd at least be able to flash ROM's, sans certain elements.
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I suggested something similar in the bounty thread. I was thinking something similar to boot manager where you could flash ROMs while in android to the SD... Could that work?
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taxi333 said:
Adaway
Titanium Bakcup
Custom ROM
Root Call Blocker
WiFi Tether TrevE Mod
Greenify
WiFi Pass Recovery
etc. :cyclops:
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Sorry to bounce backwards in posts, but I was unable to locate an app called Adaway. Is it not able to be found in the app store?
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Ok, so I screwed up. I wanted to uninstall Uber using Titanium Backup and I accidentally uninstalled a different app right above it. A system app! I didn't catch it's "display name" but in the screenshot you can see it's called " com.trustonic.tuiservice. " It's the app that's right between Uber and Trim in TiBU.
http://imgur.com/a/McrDD
If someone could please make a backup of this file using TiBU and then send it to me by posting it on here I would really appreciate it!! I will reinstall it using whoever can provide it to me's backup. I'd prefer someone that has the black 128GB version (just cause I'm super paranoid now) but I'll take anyone with a Verizon S6 Edge. I don't know what this app is or what it does and I really don't want to make my phone useless
Lesson learned: Make sure you pay attention when messing around with your phone's rooted apps & settings...
Update: Now my brightness slider won't work on Ultra Power Saving Mode. Hurry everyone before my phone explodes!! Lol
Thanks in advance!
Don't get your hopes up from my post, I don't have it. I just have a possible option for you....
Try downloading a rom based on your firmware, dezip on a pc, mount system.ext4, extract the files you need. An next time you plan on uninstalling anything system, even bloatware like Uber when pre installed, hit backup before uninstalling! !
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Im rooted via pingpong. Will give it a try if i have time later.....assuming your phone doesnt/hasnt exploded.
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Ok, so I screwed up. I wanted to uninstall Uber using Titanium Backup and I accidentally uninstalled a different app right above it. A system app! I didn't catch it's "display name" but in the screenshot you can see it's called " com.trustonic.tuiservice. " It's the app that's right between Uber and Trim in TiBU.
http://imgur.com/a/McrDD
If someone could please make a backup of this file using TiBU and then send it to me by posting it on here I would really appreciate it!! I will reinstall it using whoever can provide it to me's backup. I'd prefer someone that has the black 128GB version (just cause I'm super paranoid now) but I'll take anyone with a Verizon S6 Edge. I don't know what this app is or what it does and I really don't want to make my phone useless
Lesson learned: Make sure you pay attention when messing around with your phone's rooted apps & settings...
Update: Now my brightness slider won't work on Ultra Power Saving Mode. Hurry everyone before my phone explodes!! Lol
Thanks in advance!
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Attached.
Needs to go in system\app\TuiService\
Hope this helps
I can't help because mine is not rooted but I can tell you that the app you just deleted accidentally has got something to do with Knox, so, it is kinda fatal...
Thank you to everyone that has commented! I ended up just flashing the stock firmware through Odin and then doing a factory reset. It looks like the program is back in Titanium Backup after I did that so everything should be good to go! Also, the Knox Status app confirmes I still have my warranty. Lol I went almost 4 weeks before doing a factory reset and I didn't notice any issues so I guess it wasn't that fatal. Thanks again much love everyone!