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My stats: Fairly comfortable with computer and other forms of tech, but have only recently began diving into the Android system. I have limited development/programming experience, however, I'm not a novice or noob to it but definitely not advanced. Importantly for those willing to help I understand most terminology and can follow instructions. Thanks in advance.
Phone Stats: AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note SGH-i717
Android Version: 2.3.6 (Gingerbread)
Baseband Version: i717UCLF6
Kernel Version: 2.6.35.11
Build number: GINGERBREAD.UCLA1
Root Access: Yes
Stock Rom: Unsure, bought online.
Carrier/Service Provider: Straight Talk (U.S.) Phone was previously used on the AT&T network exclusively, and done so with an AT&T provided SIM card. After I purchased it, I ordered a new SIM card from Straight Talk (U.S.) and reprogrammed the APN settings under their instruction in order for my phone service to work correctly, and have had no problems with that.
I can't stand being on Gingerbread any longer. I guess, since my phone is an AT&T phone but I'm using it through Straight Talk I can't get any of the OTA updates. I've tried downloading the OTA's several times, both, prior to and post Root access without success in either case.
So here are my questions:
1. Am I doing something incorrectly which might be keeping me from getting OTA updates? Please remember, I've tried downloading the OTA's several times both with and without Root Access and the conclusion is the same each time: "No Updates Available At This Time. Your Phone Appears To Be Up To Date. Try Again In 24hrs."
2. Is my only option at this point to manually update to a newer firmware? If so, should I update to a newer STOCK version or a custom ROM version?
3. If a manual update is the option, after reading my above outline of my own experience with the Android system, what would be way to go? Simple, not overly complex yet doesn't assume the user is either a complete moron or can write code in his sleep. I've checked into a couple of options. Rom Manager seems like it would be a nice route to go, but in the Recovery Setup portion I basically get told I can't use that application because my specific device isn't supported.
I checked out GooManager and, unless it's just me, it seems like it's an app that likes to do all the work without telling you what it's doing exactly, but when it does ask me or tell me information, I'm not always sure how to answer or react to it's warnings.
Plus, I've noticed that sometimes when downloading a ROM, sometimes I have to "flash" the gapps myself and other times I don't.
4. Is it easier to download everything separately and apply them one by one, for example the ROM then gapps then Kernal...etc? Or look for something that has it all in one package?
I have a laptop in which I can download/transfer programs and apps between it and my Note so download space and internet access isn't a problem.
Also, it most likely isn't information that is going to help in anyway, but I live in Oklahoma, United States of America.
Thanks for all the feedback...UnluckyOnion
I'm not answering these in any specific order,
As I kinda just sped read thru most of it...
Since you're rooted, or know how to, goomanager is superior to Rom manager.
It supports this device and has a current version of twrp to install, instead of an outdated cwm.
Just use it to install recovery, then boot your device into recovery and use that. Not the app. You'll be provided with much more information and this is the preferred way of flashing.
Official Updates are always "manual" either with a less than user friendly program called kies, or with a less annoying way (which you may be familiar with seeing as you've rooted) ODIN. Both pc programs used with the phone in download mode connected with usb cable.
Gapps are only needed to flash separately with an aosp based Rom as it's against Google's T.o.S. to include them in am entirely aftermarket compiled firmware, however if it's a Modified version of a stock based Rom (in this case TouchWiz) they can be, and thusly are, included within.
Official or custom is up to you really.
If official..just grab the .tar and flash it with Odin.
If custom, obtain a custom recovery either the way i mentioned above or downloading a .tar of twrp and use Odin to flash that.
Once you have a custom recovery, you'll simply be able to flash a Rom from there.
Roms include a kernel, if you want to use a different one than what is included, that would be flashed after the Rom.
After flashing you'll have to input your carriers apn settings in again.
studacris said:
I'm not answering these in any specific order,
As I kinda just sped read thru most of it...
Since you're rooted, or know how to, goomanager is superior to Rom manager.
It supports this device and has a current version of twrp to install, instead of an outdated cwm.
Just use it to install recovery, then boot your device into recovery and use that. Not the app. You'll be provided with much more information and this is the preferred way of flashing.
Official Updates are always "manual" either with a less than user friendly program called kies, or with a less annoying way (which you may be familiar with seeing as you've rooted) ODIN. Both pc programs used with the phone in download mode connected with usb cable.
Gapps are only needed to flash separately with an aosp based Rom as it's against Google's T.o.S. to include them in am entirely aftermarket compiled firmware, however if it's a Modified version of a stock based Rom (in this case TouchWiz) they can be, and thusly are, included within.
Official or custom is up to you really.
If official..just grab the .tar and flash it with Odin.
If custom, obtain a custom recovery either the way i mentioned above or downloading a .tar of twrp and use Odin to flash that.
Once you have a custom recovery, you'll simply be able to flash a Rom from there.
Roms include a kernel, if you want to use a different one than what is included, that would be flashed after the Rom.
After flashing you'll have to input your carriers apn settings in again.
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Thanks for all the information and help...more importantly, thanks for taking the time. I have ODIN on my laptop and have always used it when needed but I saw a highly rated and positively commented Mobile version of ODIN in the Play Store that claims you can do everything from the convenience of your phone which sounds appealing, however it's kinda pricey, especially if it doesn't work. Would you recommend the mobile version or PC version? Also, I have been doing a lot of ROM and Root research as of late, and wondered something...Why so many different Galaxy Note's? It seems as though I have the least popular version with the most popular being from the Galaxy Note "N" series, specifically the N7000. If I download and use an application that says it's meant for the Galaxy Note N7000 and I use it on my Galaxy Note SGH-i717, what will happen? Nothing, something, brick, work perfectly, etc...?
The N series is not carrier branded and sold internationally, so naturally it's more popular compared to a north American variant.
DO NOT FLASH ANYTHING FOR THE N7000
IT WILL BRICK YOUR PHONE.
The international version has a different cpu, gpu and antenna, for north American LTE bands to work those key components needed to be different.
So I say again just to stress:
DO NOT FLASH ANYTHING FOR THE N7000
IT WILL BRICK YOUR PHONE.
As for Odin, you're either going to flashing a stock firmware, or if you choose a custom Rom, you'll only need Odin once to flash TWRP. Then all the rest will be done in recovery on the phone itself. No need for it after you've either manually updated to the latest stock rom, or flashed a recovery for use of custom roms
So... imo mobile Odin, though being nifty, is a bit pricey for how little you'll need it, whereas it's free on pc.
I don't think mobile Odin is even available for the i717. It's not listed in supported devices.
I tried installing mobile odin and it's not supported
Thanks for the reply. And an even bigger Thanks for downloading the app and checking. I admire sacrificing your own work just to help me out. So what about yourself? Would you suggest, advise or heed caution to anymore of my questions?
By the way, what are you two running?
As long as you read the op of threads and all other important posts that follow BEFORE ever touching your phone, I'd say try a custom Rom...if you decide you don't like any of them, you can Odin flash the stock jellybean firmware at any point.
I myself am running unofficial aokp compiled and posted by a fellow team member BlownFuze.
Oh yeah, how's it running? Nice and stable or crawling with bugs? Any key selling points?
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I717 using xda app-developers app
I'm on the stock 4.1.2 release and rooted.
Everything works, no bugs, but battery sucks. Even after removing and freezing useless processes a stock rom will never be as light and battery friendly as a custom rom.
I just upgraded to the same version. Planned on rooting over weekend. Any success since your last post? Do you nave preferred Root method?
Thanks
Unlucky Orion
Use Odin to flash twrp
Newest version of twrp "should" Sr that you're not rooted and ask if you would like to do so within recovery before booting back into the os.
If not, there's links to an su.zip to flash in twrp for root.
studacris said:
Use Odin to flash twrp
Newest version of twrp "should" Sr that you're not rooted and ask if you would like to do so within recovery before booting back into the os.
If not, there's links to an su.zip to flash in twrp for root.
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Hey man, thanks, it worked like a charm. I appreciate the help from both you.
Hi guys n girls,
I am sort of new to the Ace section here. I am doing a re-vamp of my mum's phone and said I would spruce it up a little. Shame there is no decent CM 9 versions that I can get working because of lack of RAM....the only one listed (no disrespect to the dev - thanks for making it available on such a low spec device!) but it doesn't work with my Optus GT S5830V (5830I) for some reason?
Anyway to my point, I have downloaded several versions of the stock firmware from Sammobile. The odd thing is that I cannot extract that firmware at all. Every archive program I have sees it as either being not an archive; corrupt or fails to extract it? So I am unable to make my own 4 part Odin recovery package. Making my own will save time; at the moment I have to flash the 4 part Odin (return to stock) package, then reboot into download mode again and then flash the stock firmware?
3 things I noted.
1). The device is not detected by the so called Odin specific for Ace and variants that uses an Ops type PIT file? The device is plugged in and all drivers upto date....it' just plain doesn't see it? It is however detected and flashable (albeit without an .ops file) using the 4 part package on Odin 3.07 made for my Galaxy S3?
2). I am unable to get any detection with EFS pro and it returns no PIT file?
3). All attempts to extract the stock Optus firmware package fail. I have removed the .MD5 file extension (only needed for preserving file naming conventions anyway - i.e. If you rename any .tar.md5 firmware package, in order to be able to flash it you need only to remove the .md5 from the end and leaving it as .tar and the firmware will flash without error. I digress.....What does someone suggest for me to being able to make my own firmware package based on stock?
First off, wrong section.
Jarmezrocks said:
Shame there is no decent CM 9 versions that I can get working because of lack of RAM....the only one listed (no disrespect to the dev - thanks for making it available on such a low spec device!) but it doesn't work with my Optus GT S5830V (5830I) for some reason?
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1) We don't have a stable CM9 because our devs don't have the source code for all the drivers, not lack of RAM.
2) Have you formatted your system's partitions to the EXT4 filesystem? CM requires an EXT4 filesystem to operate.
Jarmezrocks said:
Anyway to my point, I have downloaded several versions of the stock firmware from Sammobile. The odd thing is that I cannot extract that firmware at all. Every archive program I have sees it as either being not an archive; corrupt or fails to extract it? So I am unable to make my own 4 part Odin recovery package. Making my own will save time; at the moment I have to flash the 4 part Odin (return to stock) package, then reboot into download mode again and then flash the stock firmware?
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Jarmezrocks said:
3). All attempts to extract the stock Optus firmware package fail. I have removed the .MD5 file extension (only needed for preserving file naming conventions anyway - i.e. If you rename any .tar.md5 firmware package, in order to be able to flash it you need only to remove the .md5 from the end and leaving it as .tar and the firmware will flash without error. I digress.....What does someone suggest for me to being able to make my own firmware package based on stock?
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The tar.md5 file has to split into the PDA, CSC, Modem and PIT files using Odinatrix. Search for it.
Jarmezrocks said:
3 things I noted.
1). The device is not detected by the so called Odin specific for Ace and variants that uses an Ops type PIT file? The device is plugged in and all drivers upto date....it' just plain doesn't see it? It is however detected and flashable (albeit without an .ops file) using the 4 part package on Odin 3.07 made for my Galaxy S3?
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The Odin specific for Ace you stated above might be for GT-S5830. For the variants running the Broadcom BCM21553 the Odin version to use is v1.84. Odin v3.07 is more like a universal Odin that works on most devices.
Jarmezrocks said:
2). I am unable to get any detection with EFS pro and it returns no PIT file?
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I don't know about this.
NightRaven49 said:
First off, wrong section.
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Why? I was not actually asking for support as such, just sharing what I learnt/noticed.
NightRaven49 said:
1) We don't have a stable CM9 because our devs don't have the source code for all the drivers, not lack of RAM.
2) Have you formatted your system's partitions to the EXT4 filesystem? CM requires an EXT4 filesystem to operate.
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Yes I am aware of that. I actually did attempt to flash the CM9 developer package several times all without result.
I tried many methods, firstly the conventional method and then several other unconventional methods. I first flashed CWM recovery 6.0.0.x (something around there) and that was ok but it could not detect the partitions....naturally I was on the standard firmware!
So I then flashed Thunder kernel which allowed recovery to see and mount all the partitions as well as prepare for a CM firmware flash. As I knew that CM required EXT4 I was prepared and flashed Rio's Ext4-RFS conversion script via Aroma in recovery. This worked very well. Only issue was that in doing so it corrupts the system partition and then I am unable to mount it anymore to flash CM.
Returning to stock or even attempting a nandroid restore from this point forward was fruitless as you can imagine. I tried several other combinations before retiring the idea. These included full system wipe after flashing CWM recovery (I figured maybe having data on the partitions its self could be interferring with the EXT conversion scripts? Everything seemed fine and ran correctly as expected only no system mounting.
I tried another method of flashing a ROM that included a kernel with it based on CM7 in the hopes that migrating to CM9 would be easier; this was not the case.
I picked a CM7 ROM that had a conversion script built in for BML to MTD. After returning to stock base via Odin I proceeded to flash recovery 6.0.0.x again, then I immediately flashed CM7 in the hope that I would kill two birds with 1 stone and have CM do its conversion on the fly as well as install (alleviating the need for mounting system after migrating to Ext4). This ROM installed without fault. All was well until I rebooted expecting to boot into CM7....this wasn't the case, I received bootloops like crazy. Naturally I booted into recovery (the ROM had downgraded me to version 5.x CWM recovery - that is fine anyway); I proceeded by clearing the caches and performing a factory reset (note This usually a good thing to do anyway regardless if you came from a clean reset factory firmware or not).
After doing this and rebooting the device reboots continuously as it did prior. I again decided to re-install the same zip as I am aware with changing to CM on many other devices it can sometimes require flashing 2-3 (and sometimes even 4) times for a firmware update to stick. Again still no response and forever bootloops. I decided at this point that if I was to waste the time and effort in Odin'ing back to stock AND THEN flashing my standard firmware that I should try another CM ROM.
I had CM9 available and even though half hour prior I was unable to mount the the system partition, I thought maybe that CM7 had been flashed first so if CM9 can see and mount partitions (like it should have originally) then I could flash CM9 in a hope that it might wipe out what ever was causing all the issues with bootloops.
CM9 installed correctly, however again I could not boot the device at all! I had read a post from a forum member's guide saying that if I got some of these issues that I should flash back to base and try it again. I did this another 3-4,5 times at least, various combinations of wiping base firmware, not wiping base firmware, wiping CM7; not wiping CM7......Always the end result = bootloops.
As you can imagine it was rather annoying if I was returning to base firmware (if I wanted to be stock carrier branded again I needed to flash twice, once to return to stock and again to flash Optus firmware.
Overall I was unable to get any firmware booting besides that which was provided as an Odin package AKA stock firmware. If I flashed a custom recovery over stock firmware I was unable to boot again. Oddly enough I found a standalone version of CWM recovery version 5 that was not CM specific and I performed a backup as it was able to see the stock partitions without throwing errors.
I then opted to do a conversion to EXT4 again and hoped that I could just restore my nandroid backup of the stock partitions like recommended in may of the guides for Galaxy Ace.
Unfortunately again I was unable to boot and the partitions become unmountable leading to yet again flashing back to base unbranded, then flashing stock carrier branded firmware (this has the correct modem for the carrier and region).
At this point I retired the idea of custom firmware. I will later root the device and just leave it on 2.3.7 and do internal/external SDcard swap and flash a theme and maybe a few compatible APKs from newer stock firmwares (at least ICS) to achieve the functionality I was hoping to have by flashing and using ICS. I found the best and most simplest way of achieving this was through Moto-Chopper Root method and adb, most of the documented ways of achieving root on the Ace don't work for the S5830V for some reason. So I will stick with what works.
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The tar.md5 file has to split into the PDA, CSC, Modem and PIT files using Odinatrix. Search for it.
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Thanks for the tip. :good: I have downloaded this ready now, so I will investigate how this goes? It looks very similar to a application I already use TAR.MD5_PACKAGER however I see it has an option for extracting from .tar.md5 files that have malformed header information. So that sounds like it should do the trick!:fingers-crossed: Do you think that this is maybe intensional as a means of stopping people like us from building custom firmware packages?
I mean the .tar.md5 package flashes perfectly as it should do which is very surprising seeming .md5 signature is very easily broken when you rename the file and you have not even opened it. That was what lead me to flashing it in the first place, I mean I figured that if the .tar.md5 was so corrupt as I believed it was, then the worst that can happen will be Odin will spit an error message and not proceed i.e. it won't even attempt to flash the said firmware!
Myself if I download any firmware that doesn't flash and fails due to md5 error, I immediately open it up and inspect it and unless it was extremely difficult to obtain (I have waited close to 30 hours once for an old firmware package to download from the only source I could find - but regardless if it was damaged or not I only wanted the old bootloader so I could integrate it into a new firmware package so the passing md5 was relatively unimportant), I would just re-download it again.
The fact that ALL of these packages for S5830I are like this (regardless of what browser or means I downloaded the package) and the fact that they DO in fact flash like normal packages, and the phone returns to 100% factory condition; tells me that this does look like a means of discouraging custom firmware developers? hmmm
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The Odin specific for Ace you stated above might be for GT-S5830. For the variants running the Broadcom BCM21553 the Odin version to use is v1.84. Odin v3.07 is more like a universal Odin that works on most devices.
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The device is actually a S5830V...the V devices are relatively undocumented, but they are essentially just the same as the more common i/M variants. I did my homework first with this, and I can most certainly attest that it is NOT the S5830. I wouldn't attempt flashing S5830 firmware, also S5830i firmware boots and functions as normal and has signal albeit not so strong when the modem is not for our carrier and/or region, but function none the less.
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I don't know about this.
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Well give the fact that I had performed so many download of firmware that I initially believed to be corrupt I was unable to extract the PIT (or in the case of the generic Ace OPS file) from the firmwares.
Being the fact that there was little known about the S5830V I was unsure if to proceed of not? There are few reports on the device and most of them were of owners bricking their device, only 1 report I know of where a V owner claimed he flashed S5830i firmware without a hitch, again he was not from Australia where I am from, so I was flying blind and scared I was going to brick the device.
At the very least if I had a PIT file I could analyse it and could manually make image backup of the EFS/IMEI partition straight after rooting the phone. I have looked already at scripts that scan the whole emmc and I hit a snag when the kernel I am using is not insecure i.e. adb cannot run as root. I have root and confirmed with root checker app but terminal emulator and/or command line are unable to obtain root
Anyway to shed some light for you EFS Pro is a means of doing this that works on most Samsung devices....just not the Ace as far as I can tell.
Yes I am already aware that there is Galaxy Toolbox and I had actually gone ahead and done all that already,but an incident more recently where I had a device I was repairing with a wiped IMEI and it actually refused to boot. This becomes a hassle when restoring the IMEI cause in order to have Galaxy Toolbox you need to be booted and rooted. I wasted a whole day repairing the IMEI. So pretty much the message here is what good is Galaxy Toolbox to me restoring the IMEI if it can't boot? NONE!
I contacted the developer weeks ago and explained my situation and he is still yet to respond. I explained that I had a V variant of the Ace and wanted to ensure I had all bases covered. I requested information on how I could open the IMEI manually outside of the Galaxy Toolbox in the case that it would not boot (as this was how I restored the other device last week and it worked), unfortunately I am still yet to hear a response form him? Slack.
When I obtain this information I will share it here on XDA in the hopes that people in Australia with this variant will search and find some info on it. This is also why I am making this post here so detailed for folks like me who have been searching fruitlessly for answers.
My thoughts are that maybe there is something still not 100% the same between the i and the V because all custom firmwares I tried made for the S5830i never worked?
There is maybe an issue with how they are scripting their installs that is causing issues, but it is worrying enough that flashing so far has lead to partitions becoming corrupted very easily. I have had this before with my own phone more recently because a dev made a simple mistake in an updater script that called an explicit partition by mounting point ID and not by a more generic mounting point like "/system", "system" which lead to lost IMEI and bricked phone.
I am not blaming the dev though because it is easy to assume that a even though the mounting was non-specific for my device and the partition being called was not actually the EFS, it should not have corrupted my EFS....but that is not true, so a discovery was made and a lesson learned from all this. I managed to revive my device and it lived to fight another day, but simple mistakes made in ignorance or lack of information can still be costly mistakes. Need I say more.
I will report back when I have got a proper partition map for the S5830V and all will be happy days
I don't feel like quoting anymore, but I do spot some anomalies.
1) ...we don't have CWM 6.0.0.x. Are you sure you used the 5830i CWM, not the 5830?
2) I was referring to some other version of Odin when you said the Odin version specific to Ace. Which version were you using then?
3) I don't see how rio's multi-formatter can render the system partitions unmountable. In that case try lopicl.00's EXT4 formatter. Go search for it. After formatting flash Biel's Specific Basic kernel.
also you were asking a question, so naturally this should be in Q&A.
So i have a stock sprint note 3 that had 4.4.4 on it.
I attempted to install twrp/cwm through odin, but it failed and now i'm stuck in the failed firmware update loop.
I have tried installing older versions of the stock firmware, seems like i'm stuck looking for a 4.4.4 which seems kinda hard to find right now.
What are my other options, my friend is looking for the serial numbers to see if i can just use keis to recover.
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So i have a stock sprint note 3 that had 4.4.4 on it.
I attempted to install twrp/cwm through odin, but it failed and now i'm stuck in the failed firmware update loop.
I have tried installing older versions of the stock firmware, seems like i'm stuck looking for a 4.4.4 which seems kinda hard to find right now.
What are my other options, my friend is looking for the serial numbers to see if i can just use keis to recover.
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Although your thread will probably be moved to the Q&A section, you stated you are able to install older versions...... take it back into DL mode and Odin 4.4.4. There are several threads you can download the NK4 Firmware from including the Sammobile site.
SM-N900P Spint (cdma) 2014 December 4.4.4 N900PVPUDNK4 N900PSPTDNK4
shadowcliffs Thread in the General Section
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So i have a stock sprint note 3 that had 4.4.4 on it.
I attempted to install twrp/cwm through odin, but it failed and now i'm stuck in the failed firmware update loop.
I have tried installing older versions of the stock firmware, seems like i'm stuck looking for a 4.4.4 which seems kinda hard to find right now.
What are my other options, my friend is looking for the serial numbers to see if i can just use keis to recover.
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Honestly it sounds like you're making this more difficult than it really is.
All you need is;
NK4 .tar
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TWRP
So i'm fairly new to this the last phone i did was my vz s4 (and it went off with less bumps).
I'm stuck in the boot load loop. I can't flash any ROM on it right now, i think i'm trying to find the right 4.4.4 rom. Any place with good rom support would help. sammobile is far too slow on downloads...also there are a few 4.4.4 roms by now.
So the phone was purchased in early Nov 2014, already on a 4.4.4.
I dl'd odin and a TWRP, foolishly didn't make sure 4.4.4 could be flashed in the same way. Odin marked it as failed and when i re-start the phone it runs into the "Firmware upgrade encountered an issue. Please select recovery mode in Kies and try again"
The phone can get into download mode just fine (cannot boot)...tho i have no idea what to flash onto it now.
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So the phone was purchased in early Nov 2014, already on a 4.4.4.
I dl'd odin and a TWRP, foolishly didn't make sure 4.4.4 could be flashed in the same way. Odin marked it as failed and when i re-start the phone it runs into the "Firmware upgrade encountered an issue. Please select recovery mode in Kies and try again"
The phone can get into download mode just fine (cannot boot)...tho i have no idea what to flash onto it now.
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As Nickitt stated, don't make it more than it is. If you can get into DL mode then you are not fully bricked which is good. You need to flash an " Official 4.4.4 Firmware " to get you out of this situation, whether it be a slow download or not. I provided a link in my original first response of several uploads of 4.4.4 that you could possibly use that were uploaded by member shadowcliffs in his same thread/post. After you have flashed the official firmware and gone through the initial setup once again with the stock firmware, get the phone back into DL Mode and flash TWRP or Philz CWM recovery via ODIN. Once you have your custom recovery loaded, flash the Custom Rom of your choice.
Hey dark,
thanks for the quick and very very useful response. i wish i hit this up way sooner i did find those links after hours of searching through garbage. i've been downloading a few 4.4.4 images for the last 2hours. Hopefully this will help me! sadly those are the same slow connections i've scene. damn 50kb/sec so sad haha
I'll keep the board posted. but mostly bump that og thread
Damn, fails on the nk4 image and the nh7.
fails on the same spot system.img.ext4
any other suggestions board? please?
make sure your using the hltespr version of either TWRP or philz recovery, if its not working on TWRP switch to philiz. Could also be a bad download - re-download and flash again
Why don't you just use TWRP Manager to install TWRP after you root?
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not being able to root was the problem
FIXED my issues!!
Never use vmware and Mac to run heimdall or Odin... They should more prominently tell you that.
Thank you board for the concern
problem solved
Thanks for updating that you fixed the problem and what it was. It sounded like you were doing everything correctly. i was getting concerned that it wasn't working. I don't use mac, but if i did i would have been very grateful for that knowledge. thanks for the update. too often someone fixes the problem and just quits posting on the thread.:good:
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FIXED my issues!!
Never use vmware and Mac to run heimdall or Odin... They should more prominently tell you that.
Thank you board for the concern
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Parallels is a better option imo as far as v-machines are concerned but anything after Mountain lion doesn't work well. The newest mac osx doesn't work at all with Heimdall. It won't download the pit file. If your running mavricks you can try using a program called winebottle
How to Run Odin On Mac: http://youtu.be/j7fpouzMSsk also jOdin is another desktop tool to use. jOdin is a early stage online flashing tool with limited capabilities at this time.Beings its a online flashing tool. I would make sure to have a good internet connection or you could run into trouble im guessing. All in all I think its a good idea I just hope this project keeps going.
JOdin - Using Odin on a Mac: http://youtu.be/MiPRXq207Ug
It's only right jag.
Goat, thanks for the additional information. I hope there are improved options for the mac and Linux one day
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It's only right jag.
Goat, thanks for the additional information. I hope there are improved options for the mac and Linux one day
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Me too bro, me too!
So i have never had so many problems with a phone, but this would be the first one a customer tried doing on their own.
So he downloaded the latest file from sammobile for his SCH-i605. he used odin to flash and was stuck in boot loop. I have tried many different methods to try and get his phone working. I have tried all of the alternate method files to no avail. the current file i have flashed is the VRAMC3 restore out of all the files i have tried this is 1 of very few that make it through the write. All the others fail on sboot. It currently sits on the unauthorized verizon blah blah blah. Its had no recovery since he brought it over and havent been able to get recovery back. All i have access to is download mode, some firmwares give me the kies screen talking about an error but cant get it seen in kies versions 2 and 3.
If you need any other info just ask, if i know the answer i will give it. He has no clue as to what OS he was on or even what the ROM that was on there.
BCityModz said:
So i have never had so many problems with a phone, but this would be the first one a customer tried doing on their own.
So he downloaded the latest file from sammobile for his SCH-i605. he used odin to flash and was stuck in boot loop. I have tried many different methods to try and get his phone working. I have tried all of the alternate method files to no avail. the current file i have flashed is the VRAMC3 restore out of all the files i have tried this is 1 of very few that make it through the write. All the others fail on sboot. It currently sits on the unauthorized verizon blah blah blah. Its had no recovery since he brought it over and havent been able to get recovery back. All i have access to is download mode, some firmwares give me the kies screen talking about an error but cant get it seen in kies versions 2 and 3.
If you need any other info just ask, if i know the answer i will give it. He has no clue as to what OS he was on or even what the ROM that was on there.
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If the person tried to ODIN flash the latest firmware version for the SCH-I605, then it would have been VRUFND7 4.4.2 Kit Kat. (Unfortunately... once you install 4.3 or 4.4.2 on our Note 2's, both of those firmwares lock the bootloader with no current do it yourself method to unlock it. You can't successfully flash a prior Android version onto the phone after you upgrade past 4.1.2 either because of the locked bootloader).
Check out Droidstyle's Restore Guide here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=34891181. You will probably need to flash the pit file with the firmware to get it to Odin flash successfully. You can grab the SCH-I605 16gb Pit file from the guide.
Even though Droidstyle's guide is a little old, it is still the same steps for restoring to 4.4.2, so if you follow the guide (section 1b), it should help you fix the phone.
He doesn't have a link for the 4.4.2 firmware, but you can grab it from Sammobile. It looks like the Sammobile site is currently down for maintenance, but the link is here: http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/download/30950/I605VRUFND7_I605VZWFND7_VZW.zip/
If you're using an older ODIN, then I would probably try to use a newer Odin version like 3.0.9 or 3.10.0. Make sure you run it with Administrative privileges and disable antivirus programs.
Good luck!
mattnmag said:
If the person tried to ODIN flash the latest firmware version for the SCH-I605, then it would have been VRUFND7 4.4.2 Kit Kat. (Unfortunately... once you install 4.3 or 4.4.2 on our Note 2's, both of those firmwares lock the bootloader with no current do it yourself method to unlock it. You can't successfully flash a prior Android version onto the phone after you upgrade past 4.1.2 either because of the locked bootloader).
Check out Droidstyle's Restore Guide here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=34891181. You will probably need to flash the pit file with the firmware to get it to Odin flash successfully. You can grab the SCH-I605 16gb Pit file from the guide.
Even though Droidstyle's guide is a little old, it is still the same steps for restoring to 4.4.2, so if you follow the guide (section 1b), it should help you fix the phone.
He doesn't have a link for the 4.4.2 firmware, but you can grab it from Sammobile. It looks like the Sammobile site is currently down for maintenance, but the link is here: http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/download/30950/I605VRUFND7_I605VZWFND7_VZW.zip/
If you're using an older ODIN, then I would probably try to use a newer Odin version like 3.0.9 or 3.10.0. Make sure you run it with Administrative privileges and disable antivirus programs.
Good luck!
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Ive tried that one as well and almost all the files in that thread. When he flashed the 4.4.2 firmware the phone wouldnt boot all it did was flash the Note 2 screen. Ive used the pit file as well with no luck. Using the top file on the link fails almost instantly, VRAMC3 writes and passes but will not boot, shows the unauthorized firmware screen.
I'm wondering if he flashed a firmware onto the phone that was from a different carrier like ATT or something. If so, he may have messed up the phone so bad that it might need jtag to repair it.
You've probably already tried all the normal Odin tips like using a different usb cable, different ports on the computer (usb 2.0 port is recommended), etc... so I won't go over all those.
I've never tried it and don't know if I'd recommend it, but I recall reading some threads a while back where someone discussed trying the Nand Erase function in Odin.... (again.... I'm not saying to do that... but you may want to research it to see if it might be an option if nothing else works).
I've also read where people say that they've used Cygwin to create custom tar files... then they ODIN installed each of the separate partition files (e.g. recovery, boot, modem, system, etc...), onto their Samsung device.
I'm not knowledgeable enough to offer guidance with Cygwin and I'm not sure if either of these ideas would work, but I just thought I'd throw them out there for the sake of brainstorming for ideas. Maybe someone will respond to your request who has more knowledge and ideas.
I wish you luck with getting it fixed.
This is the Odin ROM for the PL1 update. Requires the the use of Odin, computer, and USB cable to use. This is the stock ROM pulled from Samsung Kies3. I've flashed it inside Odin, and it upgraded my device without wiping contents, but I cannot promise the same result for everyone.
To (re)root, follow this:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/note-3-sprint/general/how-to-root-note-3-lollipop-t3089382/page2
The file:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2iEgzRTFjrQdlhNSlg5bkE4WVE/view?usp=drivesdk
So what does the PL1 update get you? Does it improve the radio modem operations? Is it just so it will work with Nougat?
It's a security update, that's all. Note 3 is done with OS upgrades. 5.0 will be the last official
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Hya there..
I have been following all your posts about flashing the PL1 update through either Odin or TWRP. I am familiar with both, but wanted to ask for insight on my particular setup.
Model SM 900P (Sprint)
Im still on 4.4.2 Kitkat Killer and has been doing well but looking to upgrade if I can find a good ROM.
I am still on baseband version NC5
Kernel 3.4.0 BeastMode
I figure I would be smart to flash the Baseband and Modem to the PL1 but would of course like to keep root and keep my TWRP recovery.
Ultimately I would like to flash the DarkLord ROM or even Resurrection Remix ROM for the Note 3 on CDMA (Sprint)
This is my daily driver, and cannot afford to frag my phone so I want to be sure I make the best choices.
If I follow your posts I would do best to downlowad your TWRP Stock Pre Root zip file, and simply "recover' the file as if I was doing any normal TWRP recovery. This would then put me back to Stock Lollipop and upgrade my Modem and Baseband and get me the latest security updates (well fairly recent anyways).
In lieu of that, I can ODIN the PL1 file offered by you and this would in effect 'factory reset' my phone as if I just bought it from Sprint (well you know what I mean) and would re install all my apps etc (through Titanium Backup etc).
From there I can try Resurrection or DarkLord Mod's and load them like any ROM install?
Thanks for double checking my train of thought...
Dave
Thanks! This helped me out.
@Unidave199 -
Use ODIN to push Greaper88's PL1 file to your phone. (now you are updated.) (I just used it, it works.)
Use ODIN to push a recovery to your phone like TWRP
Find yourself a ROM you like (Darklord's is good.)
Flash ROM via TWRP (Read the ROM's OP's entire instructions for flashing.)
Final step....Enjoy!
2manyhobbies said:
Thanks! This helped me out.
@Unidave199 -
Use ODIN to push Greaper88's PL1 file to your phone. (now you are updated.) (I just used it, it works.)
Use ODIN to push a recovery to your phone like TWRP
Find yourself a ROM you like (Darklord's is good.)
Flash ROM via TWRP (Read the ROM's OP's entire instructions for flashing.)
Final step....Enjoy!
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I hope this is the right thread for this...
Pardon my ignorance here, it's been a few years since I frequented this forum, or even XDA...
Is this what I want to use to get back to total stock, unrooted for resale?
(I've been rocking the Note 3 since it came out, FINALLY upgraded to something newer, and want to sell this to a sprint user.)
Yes it is
Just use the "CSC" file and not the "HOME_CSC." This should completely reset the device and clear user data.