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So I bought a really nice G3, and I'm wondering what I should do first? Should I check for something prior to activating? Is root hard with Verizon variation? Any pointers?
Thanks
What build of the official LG ROM is it on? Do you want root?
If you do want root, and not on 35B, don't take any OTAs. If 35B, you can root using Kingroot. No one knows how to get TWRP working when rooting from 35B, though. If on 35B and you want TWRP, use the TOT method to downgrade to 10B, then root using the Stump app, use TWRP Manager to put TWRP on, then flash whatever ROM you want.
If it's not on 35B, use either the TOT or KDZ method (I prefer KDZ method) to downgrade to 10B, then root and put TWRP on the same way as above.
Thanks man. It'll be here Friday, noob alert. What is the 35b ( and other variants I've seen for that matter ) pertaining to? Where can I find it? Assuming maybe a build number.
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Thanks man. It'll be here Friday, noob alert. What is the 35b ( and other variants I've seen for that matter ) pertaining to? Where can I find it? Assuming maybe a build number.
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It's how LG designates their ROM builds. On the VS985 G3, 10B, 11C (I think it was) and 12B were all KitKat. 23C and 24B were Lollipop 5.0.1. 35B is 5.1.1.
You can find that information on any Android phone in Settings / About phone / Software info. If you flash a custom ROM the ROM developer can make it say anything they want but if the ROM is LG ROM based, it will usually still keep the proper build #.
The build numbers differ on different LG devices. I did notice that another newer device (G4?) starting on 5.1.1 was build 10B.
Besides the two numbers and letter, there's also numbers after. For example, the TOT method uses 10B_03. We don't have copies of a 10B_03 KDZ but we do have 10B_01. What that means is that using the KDZ method, that we can't take OTAs from 10B_01 to upgrade the phone, because 10B_03 was the actual officially released ROM. Doesn't change anything else, though, in this case.
Other manufacturers use their own coding system.
You're welcome.
Edit: where to find it depends on what you want to do with it. If your phone arrives with an official stock ROM, and if it's not already on 35B, and you use it with a Verizon SIM, then you'll be offered OTAs to eventually reach 35B. If you're looking for the 35B KDZ to make your phone official, unrooted completely stock on the latest release, you'll have to Google for a link to the 35B KDZ. I know there's links in some threads on here. I might have a copy on my Android File Host section too - I forget what I have on there since I mostly use it for my tablet.
If you really need it I can get more specific. You didn't answer whether you want to be rooted and/or have custom recovery. If you do, then you don't need the 35B KDZ. You need the 10B TOT (just a different format official file from LG for their ROM) and I forgot to mention you also need the new 35B DLL to use with the 10B TOT because 35B keeps you from downgrading except using that method. You can find the .DLL in @holiealmunus ' thread about 35B in General.
After rooting and putting TWRP on you can just flash a 35B based ROM if that's what you want to do with it.
Hey thanks man. Appreciate it. I think I'll root it for now , so I can run well root required apps etc
mroneeyedboh said:
Hey thanks man. Appreciate it. I think I'll root it for now , so I can run well root required apps etc
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You're welcome!
Reasons to downgrade to 10B as opposed to any other build: 10B was the last release that the Stump app works on to root (in brute force mode), and it's easy to put TWRP on (with TWRP Manager).
Good deal I'll report back this weekend
Enjoy your new/used G3. I got mine used a few months ago. If your battery life seems poor then check the date stamped on the battery. If its over a year old replace.
What's a good replacement. I bumped around here and it seems like aftermarket is it
I got a TQTHL battery off eBay. It claims 4500mah but its certainly not. I think its somewhere around 3500-4000 since I get similar battery life to my old Droid Turbo 4-5 hours of screen time with 24-36 hours of uptime. My used stock battery didn't even get 3 hours or last all day. YMMV
Hey guys, the phone is a 35b. Says software vs98535b.
I can root, right? I'm kinda confused...
Thats all Im after. The phone is for my wife, so I just want root so I can use root apps
mroneeyedboh said:
Hey guys, the phone is a 35b. Says software vs98535b.
I can root, right? I'm kinda confused...
Thats all Im after. The phone is for my wife, so I just want root so I can use root apps
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Yes, with Kingroot.
Thanks!
Got it. I also removed kingroot and the like and replaced it with superuser app.
Thanks
Question, guys... Should I update to MM?
Is the 5.1.1 buggy or does it present bad battery life? I noticed the screen would get 100% bright by itself, even though I had it at 50%...
mroneeyedboh said:
Question, guys... Should I update to MM?
Is the 5.1.1 buggy or does it present bad battery life? I noticed the screen would get 100% bright by itself, even though I had it at 50%...
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The auto brightness issue on 35B is the only issue I've had. Other than that it was a vast improvement over previous official releases. To fix it, it was recommended to me to use Lux Lite in the Play Store. Now I use it on the phone and my tablet, it works very well and is very configurable.
You're talking apples and oranges regarding official LG stock (rooted) ROM versus CyanogenMod, the latter being the only way of putting Marshmallow on this phone since LG hasn't released it yet but since they did for the D855 I think they will for the other G3s.
Try it if you like but I don't bother flashing CM any more. Personally I find that CM builds create more problems than they solve.
Of course, I'm running @xdabbeb 's VS985 v2.0 ROM which spoils me even more on an LG-based ROM.
Thanks once again. I think I'll leave it as is. She doesn't really know much about roms and such, so I'd be flashing or fixing things here and there.
Thanks again
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Well mine one is used too (Great deal to finally retire the almighty s2 i9100...) it came with the 35B, use this apk to flash the twrp on your device and if it worked , VOILA ... The next thing you should do is to either debloat the phone or flash a stock based custom rom (Personal Favorite is skydragon).
PD: This worked for me Im just sharing how it went , good luck
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That hasn't been updated for 35B, it's for 23C only. It worked for you? The Play Store notes even says "Don't flash this if you are on 5.1.1 (vs985 v35a or 35b)" and the author's thread doesn't mention a version for 35B.
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That hasn't been updated for 35B, it's for 23C only. It worked for you? The Play Store notes even says "Don't flash this if you are on 5.1.1 (vs985 v35a or 35b)" and the author's thread doesn't mention a version for 35B.
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Thats really strange it all was just a click and done ...
For the hell of it I wanna take my vs985 back to the first firmware that came on it from the beginning or the oldest possible firmware preferably the time it was released. I'm just confused cuz I'm seeing 10b KDZ's saying jellybean 4.2.2 (and tot) but, the ones I've downloaded from several different places turn out to be a tot file that is actually kitkat 4.4.2 which is not what I quite expected. I figured someone made a mistake naming the file but several different ones now? What am I missing? I just wanna try the oldest stuff I missed out on for a lil while and custom roms would work too but kk is the lowest I find so is there anything even lower I cant find a clear answer lol.
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10b is the original stock firmware.
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For the hell of it I wanna take my vs985 back to the first firmware that came on it from the beginning or the oldest possible firmware preferably the time it was released. I'm just confused cuz I'm seeing 10b KDZ's saying jellybean 4.2.2 (and tot) but, the ones I've downloaded from several different places turn out to be a tot file that is actually kitkat 4.4.2 which is not what I quite expected. I figured someone made a mistake naming the file but several different ones now? What am I missing? I just wanna try the oldest stuff I missed out on for a lil while and custom roms would work too but kk is the lowest I find so is there anything even lower I cant find a clear answer lol.
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Hi!
There wasn't any Jellybean available for this phone. For example, 10B for my LG G Pad 8.3 tablet was Jellybean. You can find the correct 10B KDZ and TOT in @annoyingduck 's stickied return to stock thread in the General section. If the filename has VS985 in it, it's likely the correct one.
Also please in the future post questions in the Q&A section. I'll ask a mod to move this thread there. Thanks!
That's exactly what I thought, I didn't think this phone was even this old but I have the files right here saying vs985 and 4.2.2 jellybean lol but it has to be a mistake. I appreciate your reply sorry about that after these years I still get lost and mixed up here sometimes , and this can be deleted now I got the right answer , thanks again
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roirraW "edor" ehT said:
Hi!
There wasn't any Jellybean available for this phone. For example, 10B for my LG G Pad 8.3 tablet was Jellybean. You can find the correct 10B KDZ and TOT in @annoyingduck 's stickied return to stock thread in the General section. If the filename has VS985 in it, it's likely the correct one.
Also please in the future post questions in the Q&A section. I'll ask a mod to move this thread there. Thanks!
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I'm just now realizing I'm not seeing where to delete a post, does it take a mod to do that? Just curious
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That's exactly what I thought, I didn't think this phone was even this old but I have the files right here saying vs985 and 4.2.2 jellybean lol but it has to be a mistake. I appreciate your reply sorry about that after these years I still get lost and mixed up here sometimes , and this can be deleted now I got the right answer , thanks again
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Hopefully it's the right file. You're welcome, no problem!
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I'm just now realizing I'm not seeing where to delete a post, does it take a mod to do that? Just curious
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You have to ask a mod to delete it. I already asked them to move it to Q&A - no reason to delete the thread.
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For the hell of it I wanna take my vs985 back to the first firmware that came on it from the beginning or the oldest possible firmware preferably the time it was released. I'm just confused cuz I'm seeing 10b KDZ's saying jellybean 4.2.2 (and tot) but, the ones I've downloaded from several different places turn out to be a tot file that is actually kitkat 4.4.2 which is not what I quite expected. I figured someone made a mistake naming the file but several different ones now? What am I missing? I just wanna try the oldest stuff I missed out on for a lil while and custom roms would work too but kk is the lowest I find so is there anything even lower I cant find a clear answer lol.
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Mine is on VS98510B Android Version 4.4.2, came like that, but about to change that though as soon as I read up enough and figure out which is best way to go about custom rom install, (currently stock 10B rooted/bumped, w/twrp 3.0/ few mods)
Mike
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Mine is on VS98510B Android Version 4.4.2, came like that, but about to change that though as soon as I read up enough and figure out which is best way to go about custom rom install, (currently stock 10B rooted/bumped, w/twrp 3.0/ few mods)
Mike
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Well I can tell how just about every Rom and mod runs on this phone and anything that you need to know I'm sure I've come across the issue at some point. I've tried everything I could find from your stock version to the latest mm stock and custom roms. A good hint I can give you is make sure you flash the right bootstack before jumping between android versions or you could wind up with a Qualcomm 9008 super brick where the real fun begins lol But it's very easy with this phone and it still blows my G4 outta the water so bad it's pathetic. I had 2 G4's and traded one fire this G3
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For the hell of it I wanna take my vs985 back to the first firmware that came on it from the beginning or the oldest possible firmware preferably the time it was released. I'm just confused cuz I'm seeing 10b KDZ's saying jellybean 4.2.2 (and tot) but, the ones I've downloaded from several different places turn out to be a tot file that is actually kitkat 4.4.2 which is not what I quite expected. I figured someone made a mistake naming the file but several different ones now? What am I missing? I just wanna try the oldest stuff I missed out on for a lil while and custom roms would work too but kk is the lowest I find so is there anything even lower I cant find a clear answer lol.
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I just ran across that same file looking through my G3 files, I'm not sure which thread I got links from, but most likely came from afh in someones collection of G3 files. name of the file is "8._ VS98510B_01.KDZ-4.2.2-Jellybean-MD5_hash_inside-(not_official" and it's 1.47 GB in size, I expect it was just named incorrectly
11fan said:
I just ran across that same file looking through my G3 files, I'm not sure which thread I got links from, but most likely came from afh in someones collection of G3 files. name of the file is "8._ VS98510B_01.KDZ-4.2.2-Jellybean-MD5_hash_inside-(not_official" and it's 1.47 GB in size, I expect it was just named incorrectly
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DOH ME! I'm the culprit. Sorry about that. As soon as I saw the file name you put I knew it was mine. I'll fix that. LOL! I can't believe I did that, and of course I'm sure the reason I did that was my confusion between my tablet 10B and this phone's 10B. SIGH! Thanks for posting that and I'll correct that now!
Thanks @dadrumgod too for starting this thread which lead to me knowing that I had named the files wrongly.
Lol, its all good, figured it was just a mistake! However I did just d/l the 10B.kdz from autoprime via chainfire and it was 1.51 GB in size, slightly different, any concern for that? Thanks for all your help! Past present and future lol
Mike
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11fan said:
Lol, its all good, figured it was just a mistake! However I did just d/l the 10B.kdz from autoprime via chainfire and it was 1.51 GB in size, slightly different, any concern for that? Thanks for all your help! Past present and future lol
Mike
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The KDZs and TOTs in my Android File Host section are in 7-Zip archives that you have to extract to use (and are therefore compressed).
I do that since it seems so few people check MD5 hashes, plus TOTs aren't already compressed like KDZs are, so you reasonably know that when you extract an archive that the file inside it is correct and intact.
In other words, did you compare sizes with the 7-Zip archive you downloaded or the KDZ you extracted from it?
In the end I believe the TOT and KDZ-flashing software checks the file to make sure it's both okay and is for the device you have connected, anyway.
You're welcome!
roirraW "edor" ehT said:
DOH ME! I'm the culprit. Sorry about that. As soon as I saw the file name you put I knew it was mine. I'll fix that. LOL! I can't believe I did that, and of course I'm sure the reason I did that was my confusion between my tablet 10B and this phone's 10B. SIGH! Thanks for posting that and I'll correct that now!
Thanks @dadrumgod too for starting this thread which lead to me knowing that I had named the files wrongly.
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Yea I was kinda curious about that one, but at least ya know huh, I've made quite a few Oops's myself lol.. But I'm still shocked at how much better the older roms are in alot of ways and LG did pretty good with kk apparently. But I have a gpad 10.1 vk700 and was surprised the lil difference between kk and LP and changed back and forth a good bit quite a few times mixing up what I was running... I should warranty that thing and play with it again, but no recovery so too limited.. Wah Wah Wah lol
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Yea I was kinda curious about that one, but at least ya know huh, I've made quite a few Oops's myself lol.. But I'm still shocked at how much better the older roms are in alot of ways and LG did pretty good with kk apparently. But I have a gpad 10.1 vk700 and was surprised the lil difference between kk and LP and changed back and forth a good bit quite a few times mixing up what I was running... I should warranty that thing and play with it again, but no recovery so too limited.. Wah Wah Wah lol
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Hehe. I'm lucky there was at least an exploit and TWRP for the G Pad 8.3 VK810 variant, and that some developers made an updated TWRP for it later.
I hope when/if it comes time for me to get a new tablet that I can find one that's powerful enough yet have an unlocked bootloader, etc.
I really hope something changes so that with some future Android version that there's another way of handling the optimization of apps so that every time you take an OTA or factory reset you don't have to wait an extra 10-20 minutes. Call me paranoid, but also what if you factory reset and then need to use the phone in an emergency? That long a wait is unacceptable.
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Hehe. I'm lucky there was at least an exploit and TWRP for the G Pad 8.3 VK810 variant, and that some developers made an updated TWRP for it later.
I hope when/if it comes time for me to get a new tablet that I can find one that's powerful enough yet have an unlocked bootloader, etc.
I really hope something changes so that with some future Android version that there's another way of handling the optimization of apps so that every time you take an OTA or factory reset you don't have to wait an extra 10-20 minutes. Call me paranoid, but also what if you factory reset and then need to use the phone in an emergency? That long a wait is unacceptable.
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Oh there's even a bumped twrp for the gpad 10.1 v700, mine is the vk700 with LTE but it's the same tab. Funny part is I never use the mobile data and I'm stuck with the bill cuz I didn't know better at the time lol I could possibly bump a twrp for it myself but that's a lil beyond my expertise atm. I also wish I'd have known better when I got my g4 or I wouldn't have went through hell and be stuck with a hopelessly locked non developed device with only root and no real fun. I guess ya gotta start learning somewhere huh
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Oh there's even a bumped twrp for the gpad 10.1 v700, mine is the vk700 with LTE but it's the same tab. Funny part is I never use the mobile data and I'm stuck with the bill cuz I didn't know better at the time lol I could possibly bump a twrp for it myself but that's a lil beyond my expertise atm. I also wish I'd have known better when I got my g4 or I wouldn't have went through hell and be stuck with a hopelessly locked non developed device with only root and no real fun. I guess ya gotta start learning somewhere huh
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It drives me crazy all these variants of the different devices. That's one thing I definitely like about Nexus, but I've never owned one. I was hoping the HTC 10 would be universal too but it doesn't look to be that way since it says on their website that for Sprint and Verizon you need different hardware (without any further clarification of availability/etc when I looked last week - just said soon). One of the selling points they gave for buying the HTC 10 directly from them is if you want to change carriers, you can just change SIM cards, but then the note about Sprint and Verizon - sounds like a different variant.
I do use Mobile Data on my tablet all the time. Undecided if I'll keep the mobile data plan after the contract is up in December. I do like not running my phone battery down as much since I use my tablet whenever possible for music, GPS, XDA, Facebook etc.
roirraW "edor" ehT said:
The KDZs and TOTs in my Android File Host section are in 7-Zip archives that you have to extract to use (and are therefore compressed).
I do that since it seems so few people check MD5 hashes, plus TOTs aren't already compressed like KDZs are, so you reasonably know that when you extract an archive that the file inside it is correct and intact.
In other words, did you compare sizes with the 7-Zip archive you downloaded or the KDZ you extracted from it?
In the end I believe the TOT and KDZ-flashing software checks the file to make sure it's both okay and is for the device you have connected, anyway.
You're welcome!
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both compared are .KDZ, The proper named file I d/l from Team Codefire was already in .KDZ format when d/l. The "improper named" 10B .KDZ Im not sure where I d/l from nor do I remember if file was zipped or not. If it was zipped then I extracted .KDZ and deleted the zip because I can't find it in any of my G3 folders/files. So im not sure why the size difference :/ also i have a question about flashing 35B, I know this is not proper place but didnt want to start a whole new thread for 1 question. I want to update to LP and 33B FROM my 10B KK and I see these "notes" in threads everywhere but never a link to proper update procedure, This is what I keep seeing about not using flash method to go from LP to KK or you end up with no d/l mode or other bricks possibly. from the stock img thread by bwen diorD ---------> (((((((((((***Note, Do Not use the flash2 method to go from KK to L.
Partitions other than boot, system and modem need to be updated, otherwise, you will have no download mode, and other possible issues.
***A tutorial to install the Boot, Modem, and System, using @autoprimes "Flash2" method, can be found Here.
***Custom recovery "flashable zips" for boot and modem by @hsbadr can be found here.))))))))))So Im 10B rooted/bumped with TWRP 3.0..which route do I take from KK to LP?? Just more files to flash?? and which procedure???
Thanks in advance!
Mike
11fan said:
also i have a question about flashing 35B, I know this is not proper place but didnt want to start a whole new thread for 1 question. I want to update to LP and 33B FROM my 10B KK and I see these "notes" in threads everywhere but never a link to proper update procedure, This is what I keep seeing about not using flash method to go from LP to KK or you end up with no d/l mode or other bricks possibly. from the stock img thread by bwen diorD ---------> (((((((((((***Note, Do Not use the flash2 method to go from KK to L.
Partitions other than boot, system and modem need to be updated, otherwise, you will have no download mode, and other possible issues.
***A tutorial to install the Boot, Modem, and System, using @autoprimes "Flash2" method, can be found Here.
***Custom recovery "flashable zips" for boot and modem by @hsbadr can be found here.))))))))))So Im 10B rooted/bumped with TWRP 3.0..which route do I take from KK to LP?? Just more files to flash?? and which procedure???
Thanks in advance!
Mike
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You can follow the directions in the OP of either @hsbadr 's JasmineROM 9.x, @HolyAngel 's SkyDragon 6.x or @xdabbeb 's VS985 v2.0, or what I say below for more detailed although technically optional information regarding the first two of those ROMs.
Flash either:
1. JasmineROM 9.0+9.1 and then the 35B bootstack after if you want almost completely stock 35B. Flashing the 35B bootstack after JasmineROM isn't mentioned in the JasmineROM OP and is actually optional, but encryptiona and Advanced/HD Calling won't work without it. If you choose not to flash the 35B bootstack after flashing JasmineROM, you should at least flash the 24B bootstack. SkyDragon 6.x is the exact same situation as JasmineROM 9.x.
You can use the debloat zip thread in my signature below on either of those two ROMs if you wish. I recommend flashing the debloat zip(s) before booting the ROM the first time. It'll make your first boot faster in addition to other things.
2. or flash the 35B bootstack first and then @xdabbeb 's excellent VS985 v2.0 ROM which I recommend. Even though I'm running 47A rooted debloated right now, his ROM is absolutely my favorite.
His ROM is very debloated, although there's some additional things I choose to remove via my debloat zips.
roirraW "edor" ehT said:
You can follow the directions in the OP of either @hsbadr 's JasmineROM 9.x, @HolyAngel 's SkyDragon 6.x or @xdabbeb 's VS985 v2.0, or what I say below for more detailed although technically optional information regarding the first two of those ROMs.
Flash either:
1. JasmineROM 9.0+9.1 and then the 35B bootstack after if you want almost completely stock 35B. Flashing the 35B bootstack after JasmineROM isn't mentioned in the JasmineROM OP and is actually optional, but encryptiona and Advanced/HD Calling won't work without it. If you choose not to flash the 35B bootstack after flashing JasmineROM, you should at least flash the 24B bootstack. SkyDragon 6.x is the exact same situation as JasmineROM 9.x.
You can use the debloat zip thread in my signature below on either of those two ROMs if you wish. I recommend flashing the debloat zip(s) before booting the ROM the first time. It'll make your first boot faster in addition to other things.
2. or flash the 35B bootstack first and then @xdabbeb 's excellent VS985 v2.0 ROM which I recommend. Even though I'm running 47A rooted debloated right now, his ROM is absolutely my favorite.
His ROM is very debloated, although there's some additional things I choose to remove via my debloat zips.
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exactly what i was looking for to the T! thank you very much! I was MAKING SURE the 35B bootstack would flash all necessary files/img's needed to move from 10B KK to 35B LP without making a paper weight out of my phone lol. so 35B bootstack then xdabbeb rom then debloat, script....would you recommend full wipe or? before any of the flashes , and I assume all this flash with TWRP.
THANKS!! That was A LOT of help! I just did not know FOR SURE OR NOT if anything special had to done with partitions jumping from KK to LP
Mike
11fan said:
exactly what i was looking for to the T! thank you very much! I was MAKING SURE the 35B bootstack would flash all necessary files/img's needed to move from 10B KK to 35B LP without making a paper weight out of my phone lol. so 35B bootstack then xdabbeb rom then debloat, script....would you recommend full wipe or? before any of the flashes , and I assume all this flash with TWRP.
THANKS!! That was A LOT of help! I just did not know FOR SURE OR NOT if anything special had to done with partitions jumping from KK to LP
Mike
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You're welcome! For such a large upgrade, from 10B to 35B, yes absolutely do a full wipe before flashing anything. I always do a full wipe, though. The built-in LG Backup does a bang up job for me for user apps, user data and limited system data - much faster than Titanium Backup.
You're welcome again!
I'm on 10B and everything was working no issues until lately my bluetooth dies when listening to music. I'm assuming it's the app updates for Pandora and Soundcloud. Anyway back to my question - What is the most stable, customizable, and fully built ROM/ OEM stock kdz for the G3 these days. I had cyanogen mod on my note2 about a year ago before the G3 an I was okay with it. I worry about loosing knock bc I can't use the rear unlock button when in the car cradle. I guess I'd like to be able to sideload/unroot for a few app like appradio unchained reloaded etc. My wife hates the stock camera so maybe an upgrade will help that issue. I stayed on 10B bc I didn't need the few extra options on newer versions, wanted to have as much customization as possible and google seems to be heading towards less like apple, and it worked great.
So I'm thinking about moving to a newer stock version, or cyanogenmod, and then a new phone if I'm not happy and too many features are lost - let me know your thoughts and any suggestions. I'm by no means well versed these days and a noob in my opinion, but have basic knowledge from when I spent some time rooting a half dozen phones, etc, esp when updating our note 2s last year to cyanogen. Other than flashing the stock images , adding TWRP, etc when we got these phones, I haven't spent much time learning on XDA and after a few hours I could use some opinions/directions to head, so please give me your thoughts on the latest these days for the G3.
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Please in the future post question threads in the Q&A section. I'll ask a moderator to move this thread.
What is the most stable, customizable, and fully built ROM/ OEM stock kdz for the G3 these days.
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As far as I know all LG stock ROMs for the VS985 are just as customizable as any other - at least when rooted. I don't theme except if you count using the Flat Style Bar Indicators Xposed module to fully customize what my status bar icons look like and what order they're in.
I'm more a function over form kind of guy.
That said, I do use Nova Launcher Prime and I know there's themes for it although I don't use it that way.
Since you're already rooted and have TWRP on, just use TWRP Manager from the Play Store to update to the latest version of TWRP before flashing a newer ROM.
If you don't know, rooting is harder after 10B and putting TWRP on is harder after 12B, so if you ever have to return to a known good state in order to re-root and put TWRP back on, I recommend the 10B TOT.
TOTs flash more partitions than KDZs and can fix problems that even flashing the 10B KDZ won't fix. I have first hand experience with that kind of situation. Before that I always chose KDZ over TOT but now I use TOT when there's a choice.
It wouldn't hurt to use the built in LG Backup to back up your apps and data, save it to your MicroSD card and then flash the 10B TOT to start fresh. Re-root with the Stump app in brute force mode, then use TWRP Manager from the Play Store to flash TWRP.
@xdabbeb 's VS985 v2.0.0 ROM based on 35B 5.1.1 is overall my favorite rom.
I have, however, been using his stock 47A Marshmallow firmware for several months now. It's not customized like his v2.0.0 ROM. It's as fully stock 47A while still being rooted and able to use TWRP.
Whatever ROM you use, be sure to flash the appropriate Bootstack from his v2.0.0 thread. 12B for KitKat, 24B for Lollipop 5.0.x and 35B for Lollipop 5.1.x and Marshmallow 6.0.
If you happen to fiddle with JasmineROM 9.x or SkyDragon 6.x, flash the 24B or 35B bootstack after flashing the ROM. If you flash the 35B bootstack before flashing the ROM you'll brick your phone until you recover it.
If you just get used to always flashing the bootstack after the ROM then you won't go wrong. You can always flash it before and after flashing the ROM if you're not sure.
I worry about loosing knock bc I can't use the rear unlock button when in the car cradle.
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All stock LG VS985 ROMs come with knock on and knock off already enabled.
I guess I'd like to be able to sideload/unroot for a few app like appradio unchained reloaded etc. My wife hates the stock camera so maybe an upgrade will help that issue.
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There are Xposed modules to hide root for whatever apps you specify. It doesn't work for everything, and I don't do so myself.
No camera app is going to work overall better than the stock one - no other camera app can make use of the laser focus.
For what it's worth, @xdabbeb makes an app called X-Cam that lets you tweak the stock camera app some. I don't use it so came advise specifics.
Good luck!
It appears LG is going to release the upcoming Google Security Patches to the LG G line and newer models. This apparently includes the G3, but not sure if that includes the Verizon version of the G3. So this will include all the January security fixes from Google.
https://androidcommunity.com/lg-ann...cial-release-to-nexus-pixel-devices-20170102/
iBolski said:
It appears LG is going to release the upcoming Google Security Patches to the LG G line and newer models. This apparently includes the G3, but not sure if that includes the Verizon version of the G3. So this will include all the January security fixes from Google.
https://androidcommunity.com/lg-ann...cial-release-to-nexus-pixel-devices-20170102/
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It's here Software Version "VS9854AA" Security patch level 2016-12-01.
dmoney98 said:
It's here Software Version "VS9854AA" Security patch level 2016-12-01.
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That's a strange version. I would have assumed it would be 49B or 50A. Never seen a 4AA before. Weird.
But thanks for the info!
TOT back
For those interested I was on Fulmics 6.7, I toted back to 10B, Kdz to 49A and took the 4AA update. Wanted to see if I could TOT back and yes you can. Toted back to 10B and Back to Fulmics. Just a heads up for any one interested.
VS98549A
VS9854AA
I think I see what they did. It's hexadecimal. In base-16, A follows 9. A equals decimal 10. lol
So my apologies to the previous poster who did give the correct version. Since I don't have a functioning G3 anymore, I had no way to check it. I just haven't had the heart to throw away/dispose of my G3, yet. It sits on my desk. RIP G3. :crying:
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VS98549A
VS9854AA
I think I see what they did. It's hexadecimal. In base-16, A follows 9. A equals decimal 10. lol
So my apologies to the previous poster who did give the correct version. Since I don't have a functioning G3 anymore, I had no way to check it. I just haven't had the heart to throw away/dispose of my G3, yet. It sits on my desk. RIP G3. :crying:
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Is this version Root-able?
ovais_43 said:
Is this version Root-able?
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Ever since 48A, I don't believe you can root. You have to downgrade to 47A to at least use Kingroot. Otherwise, for all non-K models, the best option is to TOT flash to 10B and use Stumproot and then flash a custom stock-based ROM. XDEBs is the most popular.
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Ever since 48A, I don't believe you can root. You have to downgrade to 47A to at least use Kingroot. Otherwise, for all non-K models, the best option is to TOT flash to 10B and use Stumproot and then flash a custom stock-based ROM. XDEBs is the most popular.
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OK,
Well I am currently using Tekcafe v3.5 with Gabriel Kernel for more than 2 months and its working absolutely perfect.
iBolski said:
Ever since 48A, I don't believe you can root. You have to downgrade to 47A to at least use Kingroot. Otherwise, for all non-K models, the best option is to TOT flash to 10B and use Stumproot and then flash a custom stock-based ROM. XDEBs is the most popular.
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Haven't had to downgrade before, and my wife is running the latest OTA with a boatload of problems. Can you point me in the direction for downgrading so I can get her on a different ROM?
roflhorse said:
Haven't had to downgrade before, and my wife is running the latest OTA with a boatload of problems. Can you point me in the direction for downgrading so I can get her on a different ROM?
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First, you have to verify what version of phone she has because if she has the K model, you will not be able to flash custom ROMs as you cannot downgrade to 10B. You can only KDZ flash to 47A which is still marshmallow. Have you done a factory reset first?
If so and she still is having problems, open up the back, remove the battery and see what her model number is. If it ends in a K (such as VS985K, or VS985WK), then you are out of luck and cannot downgrade and flash custom ROMs. You can only KDZ flash 47A, 48A or 49A images which does a factory data reset (you'll lose all data). So if you go this route, then backup all her data to your PC first.
If the model number does NOT end in a K, then you can downgrade to 10B via a TOT flash. Again, backup ALL data on her phone as it WILL be lost.
You can find instructions to downgrade to 10B here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-lg-g3/general/lg-g3-downgrade-to-10b-t3354834
If she has a model K and you want to flash to 47A or 48A or 49A, then you can follow these instructions:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-lg-g3/general/guide-flash-to-stock-10b-kdz-method-t2928140
You can get the 47/48/49A KDZ images from here:
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?w=files&flid=35484
NOTE: Read, read, read, and then read all the instructions one more time. Make sure you completely understand what is required and how to do it. It's hard to brick it beyond repair, but you can put it into a bulk mode which requires opening up the device, and exposing the motherboard so you can short two pins. It's not completely undoable, but it can be a pain if you put it into bulk mode. That usually happens when someone flashes an incorrect boot image onto the device that is not compatible. So, again, read, read, and read again the instructions and ensure you understand everything before even beginning to attempt to flash.
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Get me a kdz and I'll see if I can find the time to do so. No promises, however, as I have a lot going on IRL.
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Anybody have any idea where to get the newest KDZ for xdabbeb to work with?
Any recommendations for bootable replacement 4 my vs985?
Sent from my VS985 4G using XDA-Developers Legacy app
meatpuppet007 said:
Any recommendations for bootable replacement 4 my vs985?
Sent from my VS985 4G using XDA-Developers Legacy app
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Rootable
Sent from my VS985 4G using XDA-Developers Legacy app
Thank you thank you! I purchased a used Verizonn G3 recently to use with the BYOP program on Straight Talk. I have to have a CDMA variant where I live. I had recently rooted and installed a custom ROM (and extra goodies) on a D850 (AT&T G3) for someone else, and liked the outcome so much I HAD to have one! So after finding a very good deal on a Verizon model I couldn't wait to get it redone. That was a little over a month ago, and after first doing my diligent research on the exact procedure to use I found in horror that not only had the AA patch already been put on my phone, but that it was causing problems to those who had updated, mainly in that many could no longer hook up to wifi (mine will NOT hook to wifi, and I have found NO remedy). Then I read by someone who had tried flashing back that it had caused his phone to reset the IMEI to all zeros, and rendered it useless.. So I chose to leave well enough alone figuring that someone would figure it out soon. In all likelihood the person who had screwed up his phone flashing back did something wrong, but I didn't want to chance it. Since you found that you can indeed do it I can't wait to get 'er done! Well I will wait another day or two I guess because I will THOROUGHLY research what I need to do and make sure I have all the right things downloaded prior to actually doing it because it is the only phone I have now so I really want it to go smoothly, which I've found it almost always does IF the instructions are followed to the letter and you've read over the entire thread to make sure that your bases are covered concerning any problems that did surface. I suppose many may think I'm overly cautious, but to date I've rooted and customized quite a few devices for people, and to date have not so much as soft bricked one yet.
Again thank you for being the "guinea pig" and testing this!!! You have no idea how much it's appreciated. You just made my whole week better!
Forgive me if I'm in the wrong forum or thread for this.
I had my VS985 G3 rooted with Lollipop but I unrooted to upgrade to Marshmallow a while back. Interested in rooting again but I'm having trouble finding a method for my build number, which is MRA58K. Android version is 6.0. I searched around and found methods for the 47A build but nothing for 58K. Does anyone know if there is a root method for the G3 with 6.0 and the MRA58K build?
Unfortunately not, 47A is the latest VS985 build number which has a root method available.
@jmillgrip questions go in the Q&A section. Report your own post to a moderator and ask them to move it there by clicking the /!\ icon on the lower left corner of your post.
If you do not have a "K" after the VS985 under the battery such as VS985WK, then you can downgrade via the VS985 10B TOT and root etc from there. They are literally dozens of threads that mention how to do this in the General and Q&A sections.
If your model does have a K somewhere after the VS985 (it won't show in Android's About menu, only under the battery), then you absolutely cannot downgrade or root once you're on Marshmallow.
Ok thanks. I reported the post to have it moved. Can I ask, if the 47A build is the latest one that has a root method then why wouldn't I downgrade to that instead of 10B?
I checked under the battery and there's is no K.
Thanks for your help!
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@jmillgrip questions go in the Q&A section. Report your own post to a moderator and ask them to move it there by clicking the /!\ icon on the lower left corner of your post.
If you do not have a "K" after the VS985 under the battery such as VS985WK, then you can downgrade via the VS985 10B TOT and root etc from there. They are literally dozens of threads that mention how to do this in the General and Q&A sections.
If your model does have a K somewhere after the VS985 (it won't show in Android's About menu, only under the battery), then you absolutely cannot downgrade or root once you're on Marshmallow.
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I was mistaken. It's software version 4BA.
Moved to Q&A section.
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Ok thanks. I reported the post to have it moved. Can I ask, if the 47A build is the latest one that has a root method then why wouldn't I downgrade to that instead of 10B?
I checked under the battery and there's is no K.
Thanks for your help!
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Thanks for having it moved, and you're welcome! You're in the minority of people who actually have their posts moved even after I tell them how to do it.
I saw your other post about it being a build higher than 47A, but 1) I don't even remember being able to root 47A directly, 2) I moved on from this phone five months ago and no longer have it, 3) If 47A is able to be rooted, it was either through a workaround and was actually just an alternate method of downgrading so that you can root that I tested and posted about that was clunky at best but bricked a very few people, and permanently bricked maybe 2-3 people (but that was also before we knew about the "K" variant so that could've been a factor) AND/OR it involved KingRoot, which I recommend avoiding at all costs when possible, and 4) long story short - too late, it is just plain easiest to root and install TWRP from 10B. I apologize for over-explaining, it's just what I do.
Ok I see. I definitely don't want to do anything shifty. My phone is super stable and I like it that way. I just want root to get rid of bloatware mainly. 10b will take me back to Lollipop though correct? I really want to stay with Marshmallow.
Ok I think I understand. I downgrade to install TWRP and get root access. Then I can upgrade back to Marshmallow if I want?
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Ok I think I understand. I downgrade to install TWRP and get root access. Then I can upgrade back to Marshmallow if I want?
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that's correct. you'll need to flash a rom that's already rooted. XDABBEB's VS985 3.1.1 is a good one. you'll also need to flash the correct bootstack that goes with the rom. follow the instructions in the post and you should be good.
Thanks. The ROM seems cool. I'm just not totally understanding which bootstack is the correct one.
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Thanks. The ROM seems cool. I'm just not totally understanding which bootstack is the correct one.
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if you're going to flash that rom, you'll need the 35b bootstack. follow the instructions in the first post of that thread.
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that's correct. you'll need to flash a rom that's already rooted. XDABBEB's VS985 3.1.1 is a good one. you'll also need to flash the correct bootstack that goes with the rom. follow the instructions in the post and you should be good.
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wonderin if u might know any thing here
i picked one of these up it seems hardbrick i had it in hsloader mode been a while so now i dont know what firmware it was on to download to extract and rstore not famil with verizon phones.
im setup for flashing tots i have old lgflashtool but rite now the phone is still dead except when i ground out the pins i get again hsloader mode till i unplug it but i havent flashed anything in board diag yet
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wonderin if u might know any thing here
i picked one of these up it seems hardbrick i had it in hsloader mode been a while so now i dont know what firmware it was on to download to extract and rstore not famil with verizon phones.
im setup for flashing tots i have old lgflashtool but rite now the phone is still dead except when i ground out the pins i get again hsloader mode till i unplug it but i havent flashed anything in board diag yet
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sorry, i'm not using my g3 anymore and i never dealt with a hardbrick. there's several posts about unbricking the g3.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/general/fix-unbrick-lg-g3-stuck-qualcomm-hs-usb-t2933853
http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-lg-g3/general/how-to-hardbrick-guide-using-test-t3276928
good luck.