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Sorry for asking stupid question....
I did some research, but I still can't figure out why DNA can't uses other CDMA network.
Is it the problem if radio???
According what I see, DNA is able to unlock bootloader, s-off, root.
What stuff should I waiting for? Radio?
Your answer will help me know what kind of threads I should pay attention to. Thanks a LOT in advanced!
BTW, I am planning use DNA in Taiwan with a CDMA network provider.
I had checked the hardware is fitted to my network (CDMA2000 800Mhz). Thanks for all concerned!
siekaiser said:
Sorry for asking stupid question....
I did some research, but I still can't figure out why DNA can't uses other CDMA network.
Is it the problem if radio???
According what I see, DNA is able to unlock bootloader, s-off, root.
What stuff should I waiting for? Radio?
Your answer will help me know what kind of threads I should pay attention to. Thanks a LOT in advanced!
BTW, I am planning use DNA in Taiwan with a CDMA network provider.
I had checked the hardware is fitted to my network (CDMA2000 800Mhz). Thanks for all concerned!
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Hi,
First of all, you must understand that GSM & CDMA are dissimilar technologies, whereas with GSM you can easily swap between carriers so long as they have the same/supported radio frequencies and your phone is sim-unlocked, this is not possible with CDMA. CDMA devices do not use a sim card to retain your account information or activation abilities. When it comes to CDMA (from my understanding) the ESN is key, the ESN must be added to your networks (for lack of a better term at the moment) ESN database. In the United States, most CDMA carriers will not add ESN's of other carriers phones to their network, your results may be different, because of your location. If your carrier were to allow or be willing to add the ESN of the DNA you obtain to their database than there is a possibility that it may work. (I am unsure if that can just be done or if it would have to be removed from Verizon's network & so forth, because I've never personally had to do such a thing)
There is a second problem though, the LTE radio / sim card interface. Because of the way these phones work on Verizon with LTE, I am unsure if you could even activate it, because it looks like the LTE sim is needed to authenticate your account to the carrier like a regular GSM phone. I have no idea how you would activate this phone without LTE / GSM on your carrier, even with the CDMA ESN added. It seems like it would be a double edged sword, but I could be wrong in this respect.
Also at this current time, this phone has root, and an unlocked bootloader through HTCDev, but is still **S-ON**.
Though none of those things have to do with you being able to use this phone on your carrier.
If your carrier was GSM I would say go for it because this is a GSM Global phone as well, but because its CDMA that you need I really incredibly doubt you'll be able to use this phone, but I may be wrong, but until someone else states otherwise I would look for a different phone.
Hope this Helps!
I am also interested in it. How can we check it out? I should go to my CDMA carrier and ask to activate my ESN?
Where can i find ESN? In Settings-About there is only MEID, IMEI, Phone serial number and IMSIAdded
I work for a CDMA carrier in the USA and with lte on the phones now, they truly act as gsm phones. If your CDMA carrier has lte then they can give you a sim and it will activate your DNA. However, if they only operate on 2g/3g then the post above me is correct with the ESN database and will USUALLY not activate the phone (in store sales reps usually don't even have the ability). Even if they have lte, activating another carrier's phone is not in the best interest of the sales Rep and they usually won't.
YMMV
Sent with my DNA
kyleco said:
I work for a CDMA carrier in the USA and with lte on the phones now, they truly act as gsm phones. If your CDMA carrier has lte then they can give you a sim and it will activate your DNA. However, if they only operate on 2g/3g then the post above me is correct with the ESN database and will USUALLY not activate the phone (in store sales reps usually don't even have the ability). Even if they have lte, activating another carrier's phone is not in the best interest of the sales Rep and they usually won't.
YMMV
Sent with my DNA
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I should mentions that we don't have LTE in Taiwan so far.
My carrier provides CDMA2000 1xEV-DO rev.B (I guess it is)
Is it operate as LTE OR 2G/3G you mentioned?
siekaiser said:
I should mentions that we don't have LTE in Taiwan so far.
My carrier provides CDMA2000 1xEV-DO rev.B (I guess it is)
Is it operate as LTE OR 2G/3G you mentioned?
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From my experience, they will not be able to activate it if they do not have lte, as they would need to have a settings file made for that phone to get it to work on their network. Nevers hurts to call and ask though.
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Hi,i am from Austria,i have a Droid Dna by Verizon and the Phone works fine here in Austria, 2G and 3G/HSDPA
I know post paid Verizon LTE phones are unlocked but does that apply for the prepaid Verizon phones as well?
Nope. VZ locked this one tight
Yep, available networks selection is LTE/CDMA only.
Some nanny nagware sits in the background, reminding you at every opportunity that you don't have a Verizon SIM in place. If someone can tell me what to freeze to make it stop doing this, I'd be very grateful.
AT&T microsim just doesn't pick up any network
Can't find the E LTE drivers yet on Motorola's site for the E LTE (I'm a newbie, so can't post links, but trust me, they're not there.)
I wonder if the GSM part can be unlocked like the Motorola Luge by changing ITEM_8322 in NVRAM from 01 to 00 to enable the GSM bands. I can't try this without the Motorola providede drivers.
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Yep, available networks selection is LTE/CDMA only.
Some nanny nagware sits in the background, reminding you at every opportunity that you don't have a Verizon SIM in place. If someone can tell me what to freeze to make it stop doing this, I'd be very grateful.
AT&T microsim just doesn't pick up any network
Can't find the E LTE drivers yet on Motorola's site for the E LTE (I'm a newbie, so can't post links, but trust me, they're not there.)
I wonder if the GSM part can be unlocked like the Motorola Luge by changing ITEM_8322 in NVRAM from 01 to 00 to enable the GSM bands. I can't try this without the Motorola providede drivers.
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In every verizon android phone you simply block setup_wizard app,red icon.
Searched everywhere found nothing yet
Bump!
Anybody found a way to get AT&T and T-Mobile working in the Verizon model. The spec search shows that there is GSM bands. I need to get at least voice call working don't care if LT works or not.
Thanks
Bad news I'm afraid; The phone is locked on verizon. VZW lock LTE phones which are sold in a box as a prepaid package... You would have to wait for 6 months or 12 months continuous service to get it unlocked by VZW. I know of no third party unlockers who have managed this phone so far.
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Bad news I'm afraid; The phone is locked on verizon. VZW lock LTE phones which are sold in a box as a prepaid package... You would have to wait for 6 months or 12 months continuous service to get it unlocked by VZW. I know of no third party unlockers who have managed this phone so far.
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Thanks, is it possible to flash other rom? I see talk about GSM version not this. If this has a GSM radio, can a GSM rom flash make it available? Looks like registeration software also block selection of GSM band. Can those who have registered with Verizon see the GSM option is available. it can be checked in -> Setting -> More -> Cellular Network -> Preferred network type. My unregistered Moto E shows LTE/CDMA only.
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Thanks, is it possible to flash other rom? I see talk about GSM version not this. If this has a GSM radio, can a GSM rom flash make it available? Looks like registeration software also block selection of GSM band. Can those who have registered with Verizon see the GSM option is available. it can be checked in -> Setting -> More -> Cellular Network -> Preferred network type. My unregistered Moto E shows LTE/CDMA only.
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I don't know if this will fix your problem but their is a lower level (Testing > Phone Information) menu that should allow you to select other network types.
Pull up the phone dialer and type the below text
*#*#4636#*#*
The "Testing" menu should show up > Select "Phone Information"
Scroll down and "Turn Off Radio" > then select whatever network type you want > then "Turn On Radio"
Let me know if the LTE/GSM selection isn't there or this procedure doesn't work.
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I don't know if this will fix your problem but their is a lower level (Testing > Phone Information) menu that should allow you to select other network types.
Pull up the phone dialer and type the below text
*#*#4636#*#*
The "Testing" menu should show up > Select "Phone Information"
Scroll down and "Turn Off Radio" > then select whatever network type you want > then "Turn On Radio"
Let me know if the LTE/GSM selection isn't there or this procedure doesn't work.
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The Testing Menu does not pop up when *#*#4636#*#* is dialed. It looks like there is software routine which bypasses "Testing" menu and returns to the android home screen.
I know *#*#4636#*#* code should be universal because that takes to "Testing" menu in my OnePlus One and Nexus 4. Verizon seems to have done some trick to bypass standard android feature.
I have also tried scores of other *# codes but the most I have been able to get is to connect to the Verizon "call collect" voice prompt. My phone is still not registered to Verizon and I am not willing to fork out $45 for a prepaid plan to get activated.
At this point I am willing to do anything: unlock bootloader/flash recovery/root/ flash another rom if any developer is willing to help me get this phone working in GSM network (AT&T and T-mobile).
tm515 said:
The Testing Menu does not pop up when *#*#4636#*#* is dialed. It looks like there is software routine which bypasses "Testing" menu and returns to the android home screen.
I know *#*#4636#*#* code should be universal because that takes to "Testing" menu in my OnePlus One and Nexus 4. Verizon seems to have done some trick to bypass standard android feature.
I have also tried scores of other *# codes but the most I have been able to get is to connect to the Verizon "call collect" voice prompt. My phone is still not registered to Verizon and I am not willing to fork out $45 for a prepaid plan to get activated.
At this point I am willing to do anything: unlock bootloader/flash recovery/root/ flash another rom if any developer is willing to help me get this phone working in GSM network (AT&T and T-mobile).
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Hi. Also u can install app PhoneInfo from market and try to change network to GSM. Please let me know what you got. Thanks
@yurwells,
Thanks for suggesting. I tried several PhoneInfo app available at Google play store. I can see a lot of info about the phone via the app but don't see and option to enable GSM. Can you be more specific on what app you want me to try and the steps?
Thanks
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Bad news I'm afraid; The phone is locked on verizon. VZW lock LTE phones which are sold in a box as a prepaid package... You would have to wait for 6 months or 12 months continuous service to get it unlocked by VZW. I know of no third party unlockers who have managed this phone so far.
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It works fine here with a Postpaid SIM on Unlimited data. (I'm a newbie still here, so can't post links)
Verizon does not lock its prepaid devices at all: www dot verizonwireless dot com slash aboutus slash commitment slash safety-security slash device-unlocking-policy.html
"We do not lock our 4G LTE Prepaid devices, and no code is needed to program them for use with another carrier."
They did, however, change a setting in the NVRAM (very likely) - see above where I said this:
"I wonder if the GSM part can be unlocked like the Motorola Luge by changing ITEM_8322 in NVRAM from 01 to 00 to enable the GSM bands. I can't try this without the Motorola provideded drivers."
If someone can figure out how to do so before the driver bundle is released by Motorola, please do so, throw a GSM SIM in there, and see if you have the option to pick GSM bands in the cellular settings afterward.
@acadiel
If "We do not lock our 4G LTE Prepaid devices, and no code is needed to program them for use with another carrier." is the Verizon policy and as device cost is already paid off in prepaid device, does it make sense to call them and ask for the code to unlock the GSM bands? Can this even be unlocked with dialer code (like other GSM phones)? This is my first CDMA phone, I got this phone because my internet searches showed that all 4G LTE CDMA phone from verizon have GSM bands and can be used in ATT and T-mobile without any problem. Obviously, this is not turning out to be true. Also, I don't see any ebay service to unlock the US Verizon Mote E 2015; all service offered are for Europe carriers.
Whoa, guys. You seriously really need to read the fine print....
The link to Verizon's policy with regard to prepaid is misleading. VZW sell phones as either standalone items or as part of a prepaid bundle called "phone in a box". The Moto E, up to now, is sold as a "phone in a box"... This bundle contains a locked phone. Whether it is simple or impossible to unlock before VZW allows you is another matter, but if you go ahead and buy this phone from VZW as a "phone in a box" , anticipating you can use it with TMO or ATT straight away, then best of luck.
Here is the link: http://www.verizonwireless.com/aboutus/commitment/safety-security/device-unlocking-policy.html
Here is the text:
Prepaid Devices
We do not lock our Prepaid devices, other than our Phone-in-the-Box Prepaid phones, and the simple code to program such Prepaid devices for use with another carrier is either “000000” or “123456.” If the user guide for your device does not provide instructions to access the programming menu, you can contact us at *611 from your Verizon Wireless phone, or (888)294-6804, for assistance.
Our Prepaid Phone-in-the-Box phones are restricted for use with our Prepaid service for six months after activation, and are locked to the Verizon Wireless network for 12 months after activation. We will remove the restriction and unlock the device at your request.
Noted; but that is for 3G Prepaid Phone. The description starts with "Our 3G Prepaid Phone-in-the-Box phones are restricted..."
Verizon Moto E 2015 is a 4GLTE phone which means the first line of the policy is applicable:
"We do not lock our 4G LTE Prepaid devices, and no code is needed to program them for use with another carrier."
Verizon shouldn't have locked the GSM at all based on their own policy. But I have now doubts about whether the phone has a GSM bands at all. From what I have read 4GLTE phones have GSM bands (and come with SIM card slot: which is true for Moto E 2015) and in case of Verizon it is unlocked.
Or is it that Verizon asked Motorola to remove the GSM radios? Is it even possible to do that? I am confused now.
Can anybody confirm that Verizon Moto E 2015 (Model: XT1528) actually has GSM bands?
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Noted; but that is for 3G Prepaid Phone. The description starts with "Our 3G Prepaid Phone-in-the-Box phones are restricted..."
Verizon Moto E 2015 is a 4GLTE phone which means the first line of the policy is applicable:
"We do not lock our 4G LTE Prepaid devices, and no code is needed to program them for use with another carrier."
Verizon shouldn't have locked the GSM at all based on their own policy. But I have now doubts about whether the phone has a GSM bands at all. From what I have read 4GLTE phones have GSM bands (and come with SIM card slot: which is true for Moto E 2015) and in case of Verizon it is unlocked.
Or is it that Verizon asked Motorola to remove the GSM radios? Is it even possible to do that? I am confused now.
Can anybody confirm that Verizon Moto E 2015 (Model: XT1528) actually has GSM bands?
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The 4GLTE-side uses SIM cards, but they probably removed the GSM 2G/3G radios and replaced them with the CDMA 2G/3G radios. Keeping both GSM and CDMA for 2G/3G would be more expensive for Moto, and considering they want to make this a budget phone...
I bought my moto e lte from kodoo from canada did a sim unlock by safeunlockcode.com it took them 2 days to send me the unlock code but it did work and today im really happy with it on my old lg optimus f3 i got 95% 2g on the t-mobile network now withe the moto e
I get 90% LTE but for now it just my first day on the t-mobile network
Alexandria bay to syracuse LTE all the way and i use to get 4g in watertown only and syracuse LTE and in the middle 2g only so big improvement and same thing with syracuse to erie.pa so for now it the best low budget phone . i use to hate t-mobile but with this phone it much better
@shkdwn
Is your Moto E from Kodoo a CDMA version with SIM for 4GLTE? I checked with safeunlockcode.com but it says it can not generate unlock code for IMEI starting with among others 9900 and mine starts with 9900
I am now inclined to think that Verizon 4GLT (XT1528) does not have GSM bands.
Is there any utility to actually probe the radio bands in a phone? Most of the Phone Info App only report what activated bands are ( i don't think they show any information that the software layer is masking).
Thanks
tm515 said:
Noted; but that is for 3G Prepaid Phone. The description starts with "Our 3G Prepaid Phone-in-the-Box phones are restricted..."
Verizon Moto E 2015 is a 4GLTE phone which means the first line of the policy is applicable:
"We do not lock our 4G LTE Prepaid devices, and no code is needed to program them for use with another carrier."
Verizon shouldn't have locked the GSM at all based on their own policy. But I have now doubts about whether the phone has a GSM bands at all.
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The phone is the same model and hardware as that shipped from Motorola's own store. VZW have the phone nicely locked up to their specification. The policy spells this out very clearly. You need to read the whole page, not just the bit about 35 prepaid. I'm sorry it's not better news for you but this phone cannot be unlocked for use outside of VZW for a year after activation until someone figures a hack
It just occured to me that I had not shared my personal experience with this model. I bought the VZW Moto E as a " phone in a box", thinking that this is fantastic value and that when I had used up the month's service, I would go ahead and switch to T-Mobile, assuming that VZW were obligated to unlock all LTE phones due to an agreement with the FTC. When I discovered my plan would not work and after a LOT of discussion with VZW, they agreed to refund me and I bought the Moto E directly from the Motorola store. VZW were legally in the right based on the conditions displayed on the web and in the terms of sale, and in fairness they didn't have to offer a return but they did anyway. Also it should be noted that the bootloader on the VZW edition is locked meaning no custom ROMs
Long and short of it is that the Moto E 2015 is a great phone for its price point but if you want to unlock it for other networks or to unlock the bootloader, buy it from Moto, not VZW
My imei start with 3533
I have an old M8 lying around that I fired up and had remembered I had rooted it and the bootloader is unlocked.. Is there a way to 'trick' this phone into thinking it's an AT&T branded phone? hboot, etc. and that will allow me to RUU something official from AT&T? I know this sounds really strange and probably stupid but.. I just can't sleep and need something to fill the time.. Can I do it?
Don't think so, radio hardware is different, not to mention the partition layout.
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jbarcus81 said:
Is there a way to 'trick' this phone into thinking it's an AT&T branded phone? hboot, etc. and that will allow me to RUU something official from AT&T? ?
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Absolutely not. At least not any way that is known; and your chance of failure is high (with a brick being the possible or even probable result).
As mentioned in the previous comment, the partitioning on the phones is different. If you try to run the RUU, you at best it will fail, at worst it will brick the device.
Most other M8 versions (that don't support CDMA) can be "converted" from one version to another (other exceptions being dual SIM and M8 Eye). But Verizon and Sprint are the oddballs here. Some experienced devs have been messing around with these variants from the start (to try to convert them) with no success.
Perfect! All I needed to hear! Ah well.. it was worth a shot! Just trying to get my account provisioned for LTE so I can get LTE on my unlocked devices.. I've been told, and read, that if I can get an AT&T branded LTE capable phone to just swap my SIM in it.. and let my account provision, then I'll have LTE on any device AT&T or not... Just trying to avoid a contract..
jbarcus81 said:
I've been told, and read, that if I can get an AT&T branded LTE capable phone to just swap my SIM in it.. and let my account provision, then I'll have LTE on any device AT&T or not... Just trying to avoid a contract..
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As long as the phone is SIM unlocked (Verizon version is) then you should just be able to put an AT&T SIM in, and enter the proper AT&T APN for service, as long as the phone supports the proper bands. Its irrelevant whether the phone is AT&T branded or not.
Now the underlined bit in the paragraph above is the main issue. The Verizon M8 only supports one of the four bands (Bands 2, 5, 4, and 17) used by AT&T for LTE (Verizon M8 supports Bands 3, 4, 7, and 13). So depending on what band is used in your area, you may or may not get LTE.
But GSM (2G) and HSPA (3G) should work just fine on AT&T.
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As long as the phone is SIM unlocked (Verizon version is) then you should just be able to put an AT&T SIM in, and enter the proper AT&T APN for service, as long as the phone supports the proper bands. Its irrelevant whether the phone is AT&T branded or not.
Now the underlined bit in the paragraph above is the main issue. The Verizon M8 only supports one of the four bands (Bands 2, 5, 4, and 17) used by AT&T for LTE (Verizon M8 supports Bands 3, 4, 7, and 13). So depending on what band is used in your area, you may or may not get LTE.
But GSM (2G) and HSPA (3G) should work just fine on AT&T.
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That's the odd part.. My main phone is the S6 Edge from Verizon.. it's on the AT&T network and I assume my APN is correct.. But it's not picking up LTE and I am almost certain the S6 Edge from Verizon will pick up the correct band for AT&T LTE .. But it's only using the H+ speed.. What's even more strange?? When I throw my SIM into the M8? I get LTE on AT&T and verify with 30+mpbs speeds.. I have no idea what's going on...
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That's the odd part.. My main phone is the S6 Edge from Verizon.. it's on the AT&T network and I assume my APN is correct.. But it's not picking up LTE and I am almost certain the S6 Edge from Verizon will pick up the correct band for AT&T LTE .. But it's only using the H+ speed.. What's even more strange?? When I throw my SIM into the M8? I get LTE on AT&T and verify with 30+mpbs speeds.. I have no idea what's going on...
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Yeah, that is strange. According to the specs for the S6 Edge here, the Verizon version supports the same LTE bands as the VZN M8, and actually some additional bands (2 and 5) that also happen to be bands used by AT&T.
One thing I can think of, is that the VZN M8 in actuality supports some bands that are not advertised/explicit in the specs. It wouldn't be unheard of, as members here have reported some versions of the non-CDMA M8 as supporting some bands not indicated in the specs. And that band happens to be what AT&T is using in your market region. In this case, that band would seem to be Band 17 (the only band that AT&T is known to use, that isn't listed on the S6 Edge specs).
Or the other possibility, is there is just some issue with the S6 that is preventing connection to LTE (but on the same supported band that the M8 has).
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Yeah, that is strange. According to the specs for the S6 Edge here, the Verizon version supports the same LTE bands as the VZN M8, and actually some additional bands (2 and 5) that also happen to be bands used by AT&T.
One thing I can think of, is that the VZN M8 in actuality supports some bands that are not advertised/explicit in the specs. It wouldn't be unheard of, as members here have reported some versions of the non-CDMA M8 as supporting some bands not indicated in the specs. And that band happens to be what AT&T is using in your market region. In this case, that band would seem to be Band 17 (the only band that AT&T is known to use, that isn't listed on the S6 Edge specs).
Or the other possibility, is there is just some issue with the S6 that is preventing connection to LTE (but on the same supported band that the M8 has).
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Yeah.. I'm not worried about it.. I've been told that all I need is an AT&T branded LTE capable device hooked up to the account and that my account hasn't been provisioned for LTE .. I've seen this in a few places so it's worth a shot.. I ordered a junk LTE phone branded AT&T to test it out.. ordered a OnePlus 2 and will likely unload the S6 Edge (if it never picks up the LTE from AT&T)
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I've been told that all I need is an AT&T branded LTE capable device hooked up to the account and that my account hasn't been provisioned for LTE ..)
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As I've already mentioned, its not really necessary to have an AT&T branded device. I suspect the reason you've seen people say this, is that AT&T branding means by definition the phone has all the bands used by AT&T for LTE; since obviously the phone is intended for use on AT&T's network. Since AT&T uses a number of bands (4) and LTE bands being used worldwide has become very un-standardized, its somewhat difficult to find a non-AT&T phone that has all the bands. But they do exist, such as the US unlocked M8, Dev Edition M8, and Nexus devices. Also, I've seen folks used other non-ATT branded phones, which may not have all 4 LTE bands used by AT&T, but the one(s) needed in the particular user's region. Not ideal, but sufficient for some folks.
Another reason why some may say the phone needs to be AT&T branded, is that AT&T tech support won't provide you any support if you have a non-ATT phone. But honestly, I've used non-branded devices (and plenty of folks here have), and this is very rarely an issue. The folks here on XDA will usually provide you better support, anyway!
Of course, your ATT account needs to be provisioned for LTE in order to have that service. Its a simple matter, and doesn't cost anything (just need a smartphone data plan).
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As I've already mentioned, its not really necessary to have an AT&T branded device. I suspect the reason you've seen people say this, is that AT&T branding means by definition the phone has all the bands used by AT&T for LTE; since obviously the phone is intended for use on AT&T's network. Since AT&T uses a number of bands (4) and LTE bands being used worldwide has become very un-standardized, its somewhat difficult to find a non-AT&T phone that has all the bands. But they do exist, such as the US unlocked M8, Dev Edition M8, and Nexus devices. Also, I've seen folks used other non-ATT branded phones, which may not have all 4 LTE bands used by AT&T, but the one(s) needed in the particular user's region. Not ideal, but sufficient for some folks.
Another reason why some may say the phone needs to be AT&T branded, is that AT&T tech support won't provide you any support if you have a non-ATT phone. But honestly, I've used non-branded devices (and plenty of folks here have), and this is very rarely an issue. The folks here on XDA will usually provide you better support, anyway!
Of course, your ATT account needs to be provisioned for LTE in order to have that service. Its a simple matter, and doesn't cost anything (just need a smartphone data plan).
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I've dug deeper and have to not only have an AT&T branded phone, I have to register the IEMI on my account, then swap the SIM card back into the other phone. I've got the phone but can't find a way to do this online so I'll have to call tomorrow...
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I have a m8 whl sprint abd does not use CDMA only gsm network. I can I change the mid and convert the phone to get latest ota for dev edition version? I thanks
long.nguyen said:
I have a m8 whl sprint abd does not use CDMA only gsm network. I can I change the mid and convert the phone to get latest ota for dev edition version? I thanks
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Absolutely NO.
What I mentioned above (Post #3) for the Verizon variant, also applies to Sprint (both versions support CDMA - the fact you don't use it is irrelevant). If you try to convert to another version won't work, and will probably result in a brick.
Also, even if you didn't have a CDMA version M8, you typically can't convert using an OTA, it has to be an RUU.
redpoint73 said:
Absolutely NO.
What I mentioned above (Post #3) for the Verizon variant, also applies to Sprint (both versions support CDMA - the fact you don't use it is irrelevant). If you try to convert to another version won't work, and will probably result in a brick.
Also, even if you didn't have a CDMA version M8, you typically can't convert using an OTA, it has to be an RUU.
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@redpoint ; don't we have any chance to install different provider radios to Verizon Htc devices..?
because verizon devices you know that support 3, 4, 7, and 13 bands,but i want to enable band 20 for europe LTE..
pls help us to enable other bands =( because only u can do that as a genius =)
thanx a lot
cincon said:
@redpoint ; don't we have any chance to install different provider radios to Verizon Htc devices..?
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Absolutely NOT. As already thoroughly discussed on this thread, if you attempt to install another version's radio on the Verizon version, it won't work, and you may radio brick the phone (permanent damage possible).
Different radios, different partition layout.
Don't even try it. Experienced devs have tried to "convert" by various methods and mods, and failed.
But there may be other ways (besides flashing another version's radio) to enable the band(s) you want, read on:
cincon said:
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because verizon devices you know that support 3, 4, 7, and 13 bands,but i want to enable band 20 for europe LTE..
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You can take a look at the following method, as it claims to enable Band 20: http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-htc-one-m8/general/lte-band-7-2600mhz-finally-guide-t2992523
Read the thread, and proceed at your own discretion. I'm not knowledgeable with changing NV values (it doesn't work on "GSM" M8 variants, so does not apply to me). I simply know this thread exists.
cincon said:
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pls help us to enable other bands =( because only u can do that as a genius =)
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Far from a genius, and I don't create any of these mods. I just contribute by passing on knowledge I've gained here. Really, that is part of what XDA is all about.
Hey all,
I noticed that the moto z was a Verizon exclusive unless you bought the gsm unlocked version from Motorola. As for the Verizon version, if it's unlocked but still a Verizon phone would it work with TPO (the people's operator)? I believe TPO is an umbrella of T-Mobile. I read from multiple places that it depends on the phone to see whether or not a Verizon unlocked will work on another carrier. Some eBay listings I've seen have said Verizon models will work with others while others said it wouldn't. I haven't been to find any moto z specific info regarding this on the internet. If someone could give me some insight that would be much appreciated.
Thanks
hockeymonday10 said:
Hey all,
I noticed that the moto z was a Verizon exclusive unless you bought the gsm unlocked version from Motorola. As for the Verizon version, if it's unlocked but still a Verizon phone would it work with TPO (the people's operator)? I believe TPO is an umbrella of T-Mobile. I read from multiple places that it depends on the phone to see whether or not a Verizon unlocked will work on another carrier. Some eBay listings I've seen have said Verizon models will work with others while others said it wouldn't. I haven't been to find any moto z specific info regarding this on the internet. If someone could give me some insight that would be much appreciated.
Thanks
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The problem which you face there is with the LTE bands. Now a days GSM and 3G bands are standard and most phones support all the 3G and 2G bands for universal use. But the same is not the case for LTE bands. The Verizon unit may not have the LTE bands needed for T-Mobile and other US GSM carriers so you will be better off buying the unlocked version.
My question remains, when carrier unlocking an s9 or s9+, is there any way to make it available on different network types like say if the phone started out using a carrier that uses CDMA, is their any way to flash it to utilize t-mobile's frequency bands?
I unlocked two galaxy s9+'s that were on xfinity, which uses verizon towers. The two phones did unlock, but only for carriers utilizing CDMA. I was hoping they would be able to be used on t-mobile after unlocking, but they can't. Only messaging and data works using a t-mobile SIM card. Verizon works fine. SO my question still remains, is there a way to make it work?
I used itekimei .com to have the phones unlocked, as I found they were suggested here on XDA. And they weren't really able to answer my question either. They said it should work with t-mobile, but the conversation ended with "t-mobile is having problems with unlocked phones." This is super frustrating trying to get an answer.
Edit: I found this forum https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s9-plus/help/sim-unlocking-sprint-samsung-galaxy-s9-t3783571 which debates whether it will work or not. Also this one specifically about Xfinity https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s9-plus/help/xfinity-mobile-unlock-service-t3796349. But mine didn't work. I don't think U.S. S9's are cross compatible from CDMA to GSM. I have been searching and searching and can't find a way.
Yes, the US unit hardware is cross compatible. Heck, Verizon itself isn't all CDMA. They are phasing out CDMA soon and most of their network is LTE.
I have a US unlocked S9+ and can use any carrier in the US. You could too, all you need to do is flash the US Unlocked firmware to the device using Odin.
Your problem may be the Xfinity firmware restricting certain bands is all. Or possibly the device isn't really unlocked.
Regards,