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I guess the title says it all. I'm interested in buying the Z Ultra (unlocked international) but I'm very concerned about the battery.
I HATE having to charge my phone in the middle of the day. If it has to happen once a week that's too often for me. What I currently do with my Samsung Galaxy Tab 7.7 (which I use as a phone) is I charge it at night when I'm going to sleep. I never have to worry about the charge, even if I am using it constantly all day. If I use the device sparingly I can even stretch it out for two days.
Can this device come even close to that?
Will I have to keep a charger with me at all times?
I can accept a smaller battery than my current amazing performance. What I'm looking for is that most of the time, I can wait to charge my phone until I'm going to bed with average usage. Not constantly checking messages, emails, browser, etc.
Thanks for the answers guys!
hello,
i am also interested to buy the XZU but also worried like you about battery..
What i want to know. how would be the battery life in 1 or 2 years ?
I think we have to wait a few more month to get the best details
The answer is pretty clear. You can't compare the two. 7.7 has nearly 2x battery capacity (5100mAh vs 3000mAh) than ZU. Tab 7.7. It runs on 2 Cortex A9 processer which is slower and use much lesser power than the latest Snapdragon 800 chip.
I can only say battery if the 3G ZU is comparable to Samsung S4 LTE.
avsquare said:
The answer is pretty clear. You can't compare the two. 7.7 has nearly 2x battery capacity (5100mAh vs 3000mAh) than ZU. Tab 7.7. It runs on 2 Cortex A9 processer which is slower and use much lesser power than the latest Snapdragon 800 chip.
I can only say battery if the 3G ZU is comparable to Samsung S4 LTE.
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So do you mean it can barely get through a day? Rushing to charge it in the evening? Or fine till bedtime?
omarrabbat said:
So do you mean it can barely get through a day? Rushing to charge it in the evening? Or fine till bedtime?
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It all depends on user. How I use the device will be different from everyone else. But generally speaking you can go to the General Section and check the battery usage stats. Most people can last through a working day (ie leave home with 100% and survive until knock off and reach home).
avsquare said:
It all depends on user. How I use the device will be different from everyone else. But generally speaking you can go to the General Section and check the battery usage stats. Most people can last through a working day (ie leave home with 100% and survive until knock off and reach home).
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Thanks for that avsquare, I think that clears it up for me pretty much. Now the question is am I ready to go back to that old feeling of always being worried about my phone's charge...
omarrabbat said:
Thanks for that avsquare, I think that clears it up for me pretty much. Now the question is am I ready to go back to that old feeling of always being worried about my phone's charge...
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This is one of my biggest dilemma when I was considering the Z Ultra. To be frank, I hated phones without swappable batteries so I rarely buy such phones.
If you share the same concern, ask yourself if you can do with large powerbanks (I'm personally not really fond of the idea). Personally, if possible, I prefer a swappable battery - just change and ready to go.
If you dislike powerbanks, maybe you should wait for the Samsung Galaxy Note 3.
It's a matter of choice. If you like the phone,buy it. With some tweaks you can make it last a whole day.
I don't think I'll "just buy it". The phone looks beautiful & everything but battery life for me is very important. I have this problem with all phones these days. They can all be made just a tiny bit thicker and have a bigger battery that lasts for a day and a half or two days with a few hours each day of screen time. That way if you use the phone a little too much today, it'll still last till the end of the day.
If you work for Sony you can give them this feedback
All smartphones have this so called 'problem'. The battery just can't handle more than a day with average usage. The only thing remaining is to use apps to hibernate applications,CPU handling and other tweaks,of course,on a rooted phone.
Mr.AnakinSkywalker said:
All smartphones have this so called 'problem'. The battery just can't handle more than a day with average usage. The only thing remaining is to use apps to hibernate applications,CPU handling and other tweaks,of course,on a rooted phone.
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Sorry guys I'm not here to complain!!! I'm just asking about the phone and how it suits my preferences. Great battery life is a requirement for me and others who have posted in this thread. Tweaks might help, but I'm not interested in spending my time fiddling till I get it just right. I've also heard that a lot of Sony devices can have very long standby time which is great, but I also want long usage time.
For now I'll stick to my (admittedly crazy) way of using my tablet as a phone till someone makes a nice large screened phone (6+) with great (not average) battery life. There are smaller phones with great battery life, this however is a new size that I'm interested in (big but not toooo big) but my original requirement remains: great battery life.
omarrabbat said:
Sorry guys I'm not here to complain!!! I'm just asking about the phone and how it suits my preferences. Great battery life is a requirement for me and others who have posted in this thread. Tweaks might help, but I'm not interested in spending my time fiddling till I get it just right. I've also heard that a lot of Sony devices can have very long standby time which is great, but I also want long usage time.
For now I'll stick to my (admittedly crazy) way of using my tablet as a phone till someone makes a nice large screened phone (6+) with great (not average) battery life. There are smaller phones with great battery life, this however is a new size that I'm interested in (big but not toooo big) but my original requirement remains: great battery life.
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Try Huawei Ascend Mate, then. 6.1 inch. Of course, the core hardware of that one is not as shiny as the ZU.
unk_damnation said:
Try Huawei Ascend Mate, then. 6.1 inch. Of course, the core hardware of that one is not as shiny as the ZU.
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Not a bad choice, HD screen with 2 more A9 cores compared to his 7.7 tab with a whooping 4050mAh battery for a smartphone these days.
Still kinda an upgrade for him
Interesting... but not sure if it's available in my country. I'll see what I can find.
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Interesting... but not sure if it's available in my country. I'll see what I can find.
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Just remember that the Mate has a 720p display - stretched across 6.1 inches. It looks like Satan runs Huawei Now, i'm not sure if you care at all, but that would give me a heart attack.
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Just remember that the Mate has a 720p display - stretched across 6.1 inches. It looks like Satan runs Huawei Now, i'm not sure if you care at all, but that would give me a heart attack.
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Actually, it's not too bad. I've even used the Note 10.1 before which is a 720p stretched over 10.1'' screen
Honestly it isn't too bad considering the viewing distance (remember PPI alone doesn't mean a thing if you don't take into account of the viewing distance) but once you've been spoilt by FHD screens.. there's no going back
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Just remember that the Mate has a 720p display - stretched across 6.1 inches. It looks like Satan runs Huawei Now, i'm not sure if you care at all, but that would give me a heart attack.
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And father of satan runs samsung, they have 720p on a 6.3" in Mega
4K TVs are coming out now.. Let's wait for the era of 4K smartphone to emerge... but then 128GB microSD cards will feel like a 3.5" floppy disk in term of capacity
I checked and didn't find the Huawei in my country.
About pixel density, at 6 inches 1280 * 720 is pretty good but of course Sony's 1080p is amazing.
I just read the Engadget review of the Z Ultra and it seems pretty average for a phone but strange that they played one game for one hour and lost 40% of the charge! I'm not ready to deal with that unfortunately.
Seriously the device is expensive but I would've bought it in 2 seconds if the battery was better.
omarrabbat said:
I checked and didn't find the Huawei in my country.
About pixel density, at 6 inches 1280 * 720 is pretty good but of course Sony's 1080p is amazing.
I just read the Engadget review of the Z Ultra and it seems pretty average for a phone but strange that they played one game for one hour and lost 40% of the charge! I'm not ready to deal with that unfortunately.
Seriously the device is expensive but I would've bought it in 2 seconds if the battery was better.
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They played Riptide GP 2 for an hour. Have you seen that game? It's not exactly Tetris, so it's understandable that it sucks the life out of the battery. I watched a YouTube review of Riptide, and they said it kills the battery, and the reviewer played it on a different device (can't remember which, but it was either the Note 2, S4, HTC One or the Moto X)
I did a Google search for external power back for an 'Xperia z ', as this mobiles been around for a while.
I found an external battery product for the Xperia z from a company called 'Power Bank', and decided to send them an email enquiry regarding any possibilities that they might do a similar the market product for the 'Xperia z ultra', they replied saying that it is very likely that they will have something in on the market, and to watch their website during the coming months.
So, for anyone who's thinking of getting one, or has one already, there's a good change the battery stamina issue may well get solved.
Hope this info helps.
Regards
Do battery cases exist in the nexus 6 world?
I've searched a lot and couldn't find any.
I've really had it with the battery life of this phone, a battery case would save me from going back a 6 plus.
Tons of way to optimize battery, most people get a couple days worth and you probably could too with a simple Google search. There's no battery cases for this phone, it's too big and too niche.
Oh, and going back to a 6 plus? Lmao that's like saying "there's something wrong with my Ferrari, if I can't fix it I'm getting a Hyundai"
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Tons of way to optimize battery, most people get a couple days worth and you probably could too with a simple Google search. There's no battery cases for this phone, it's too big and too niche.
Oh, and going back to a 6 plus? Lmao that's like saying "there's something wrong with my Ferrari, if I can't fix it I'm getting a Hyundai"
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Thats in the eye of the beholder
Battery life when you use the phone is pretty bad IMO. It drops pretty fast once it gets below 50%. I highly doubt mods and tweeks will get you the battery life of the 6+, maybe closer to the note 4
joshm.1219 said:
Tons of way to optimize battery, most people get a couple days worth and you probably could too with a simple Google search. There's no battery cases for this phone, it's too big and too niche.
Oh, and going back to a 6 plus? Lmao that's like saying "there's something wrong with my Ferrari, if I can't fix it I'm getting a Hyundai"
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LOL @ nexus 6 as a Ferrari and the 6+ Hyundai. Get off your high horse sir.
I've been to the battery life thread in general. You're talking like there's some magic fix to make this phone match the 6+'s battery life, there isn't. I'm a very heavy user and I accept this phone's battery is average at best, that's why I was looking for a battery case.
LordGrahf said:
LOL @ nexus 6 as a Ferrari and the 6+ Hyundai. Get off your high horse sir.
I've been to the battery life thread in general. You're talking like there's some magic fix to make this phone match the 6+'s battery life, there isn't. I'm a very heavy user and I accept this phone's battery is average at best, that's why I was looking for a battery case.
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Lol stfu with the high horse stuff, you know you're trolling hard when you bring up an iPhone as your only other option on an Android development forum. As for the battery life, do a little research and educate yourself on how to manage efficiency, you can easily get more battery life than the typical 6+
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Lol stfu with the high horse stuff, you know you're trolling hard when you bring up an iPhone as your only other option on an Android development forum. As for the battery life, do a little research and educate yourself on how to manage efficiency, you can easily get more battery life than the typical 6+
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So let me get this, someone references the 6+, and yur reaction is getting your panties all bunched up haha. My apologies, didn't mean to hurt your feelings there
The nexus 6 has obvious battery shortcomings that are well documented in the general section, one thread has over 200 pages of complaints. If you're such a guru why don't you go there and share your 'optimizations' so we all can benefit from it? Do they include turning off the phone? Lol
Anyways I got what I needed from this thread, no battery cases available. Thanks everyone.
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So let me get this, someone references the 6+, and yur reaction is getting your panties all bunched up haha. My apologies, didn't mean to hurt your feelings there
The nexus 6 has obvious battery shortcomings that are well documented in the general section, one thread has over 200 pages of complaints. If you're such a guru why don't you go there and share your 'optimizations' so we all can benefit from it? Do they include turning off the phone? Lol
Anyways I got what I needed from this thread, no battery cases available. Thanks everyone.
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Nah I'm still calm but I guess it is on me for feeding you trolls. That thread has a bunch of people with great battery life as well because they know how google works. As I said, you should try reading it.
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Thats in the eye of the beholder
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Or the beer holder...
LordGrahf said:
So let me get this, someone references the 6+, and yur reaction is getting your panties all bunched up haha. My apologies, didn't mean to hurt your feelings there
The nexus 6 has obvious battery shortcomings that are well documented in the general section, one thread has over 200 pages of complaints. If you're such a guru why don't you go there and share your 'optimizations' so we all can benefit from it? Do they include turning off the phone? Lol
Anyways I got what I needed from this thread, no battery cases available. Thanks everyone.
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if you think battery life is bad with this device, then i dont recommend trying a LG G3 or LG G Flex 2, they have horrible battery life, like maybe 2 hours screen on time if your lucky. the G2 had the best IMO. so coming to the Nexus 6 was a pleasant surprise when i get around 4-5 hours of SOT
I'm pretty content with that battery life. Google made changes in 5.1 kernel to improve it some more by turning off a Qualcomm "feature" and just having the 4 cores on all the time. My wife has the 6+ with a mophie case. I personally don't see much difference in battery life between the 2 phones. We both come home from work with about the same amount of battery left. Mine is a little less when I have yo go to a part of the hospital that gets poor reception. I've never thought to myself. OMG I need to bring my cable to work. Just the other day I forgot to charge my phone over night and had 43% left. Plugged it into a 2.1 amp charger while I got ready for work. Hooked it up to my turbo charger in the car and voila. 90% by the time I made it to work 30 minutes later.
I get that the battery life can be piss poor. I haven't done any "optimizations". You can try rooting and installing Franco kernel or some other kernel if you want to give it a shot though. I feel like battery cases are for those worried about battery life while going camping or something. I would just turn on power save mode at that point.
Uhhh really want a battery case, and please don't tell me I don't need it, its my personal opinion.
Same here. I need a battery case, badly. Will get tomorrow a Nexus 6, atm using Note 3 with Zerolemon 10,000mAh battery. I guess I have to build my own, where are those 3D printers...
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Agreed. It's so frustrating to be told that optimization can solve the problem from someone who probably lives under a cell tower and has never needed a 10,000mAh battery. Out here on the fringe, bouncing in and out of service on the farm, my 9,000 mAh on my G3 barely got me through the day. I don't want to have to find a charger at noon or 8 pm, I want a phone that works from 6 am until 10 pm when I get home. I've made huge improvements with optimization, but no tweaking is going to get my N6 past noon on the farm, so don't say that we're silly or unreasonable when we want to duct tape a car battery to our phones to get through the day.
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Agreed. It's so frustrating to be told that optimization can solve the problem from someone who probably lives under a cell tower and has never needed a 10,000mAh battery. Out here on the fringe, bouncing in and out of service on the farm, my 9,000 mAh on my G3 barely got me through the day. I don't want to have to find a charger at noon or 8 pm, I want a phone that works from 6 am until 10 pm when I get home. I've made huge improvements with optimization, but no tweaking is going to get my N6 past noon on the farm, so don't say that we're silly or unreasonable when we want to duct tape a car battery to our phones to get through the day.
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I just ordered a Anker 10,000mAh external battery and I will glue it to the phone protective cover. Let's see how it will work, the battery is smaller than the phone so it will only add some thickness and of course, weight.
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Agreed. It's so frustrating to be told that optimization can solve the problem from someone who probably lives under a cell tower and has never needed a 10,000mAh battery. Out here on the fringe, bouncing in and out of service on the farm, my 9,000 mAh on my G3 barely got me through the day. I don't want to have to find a charger at noon or 8 pm, I want a phone that works from 6 am until 10 pm when I get home. I've made huge improvements with optimization, but no tweaking is going to get my N6 past noon on the farm, so don't say that we're silly or unreasonable when we want to duct tape a car battery to our phones to get through the day.
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Sounds like you should stick to phones with a removable battery. Why would you get a phone with a 3220mah embedded battery when the ZL on your G3 wasn't enough? Even if a company did come out with a battery case, which isn't happening, it would never be anywhere near as big as that.
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Sounds like you should stick to phones with a removable battery. Why would you get a phone with a 3220mah embedded battery when the ZL on your G3 wasn't enough? Even if a company did come out with a battery case, which isn't happening, it would never be anywhere near as big as that.
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As someone who is eagerly waiting battery case I agree, if a G3 battery with ZL extended case is not sufficient neither will a battery case. Battery cases charge significantly slower than charging them through the wall. I had one for my m8 and Nexus 5.
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As someone who is eagerly waiting battery case I agree, if a G3 battery with ZL extended case is not sufficient neither will a battery case. Battery cases charge significantly slower than charging them through the wall. I had one for my m8 and Nexus 5.
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Not to mention you lose 30% of the capacity of the case just through the inefficiencies of USB charging. So he would need a ~7500mah battery case to really have a comparable capacity overall. Which has never been made before for any phone with an embedded battery AFAIK.
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Not to mention you lose 30% of the capacity of the case just through the inefficiencies of USB charging. So he would need a ~7500mah battery case to really have a comparable capacity overall. Which has never been made before for any phone with an embedded battery AFAIK.
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He said that he gets crap service, which does impact battery life. Perhaps looking into another carrier. Verizon and At&t tend to have better coverage. If the price is a deterrent then he should look into an MNVO and probably stick with the g3
I don't understand how people aren't able to get through a day on a single charge (unplugging around 8am) when I'm able to do it with ease working 8-10hrs while my phone is constantly searching and jumping between no signal and poor 3g/LTE. Having Wi-Fi helps but I'm able to get through the day without it while at work. It was no different with the Note 2, original Moto X, and G3 over the past 2 years.
If you're on the fringe of service areas, perhaps consider a range extender? If you get poor reception where you spend most of your time on a daily basis, perhaps consider a different carrier? It's unfair to complain about battery life because all phones will suffer if you're usually in areas where your carrier doesn't provide good coverage. Other than that, consider a different phone that better suits your needs (i.e. removable batteries) as suggested above or invest in a portable charger. I rarely ever need to use my portable charger but I always have it with me. With larger capacities in slimmer form factors at lower prices, there really is no excuse for a power user to not have one.
I got this amazing offer on moto Z more than 50% off. Should i buy it. i read alot of reviews that battery life sucks or volte problem or Bluetooth or wifi problems i am just really confused. Should i just buy a mid tier phone with mid tier secs and forget the flagship of 2016.
I paid 400$ for it when I encountered a 50% reduction in August(it costs 800$ in Croatia) and I can tell you this:
If you don't care about battery life(which is logically not great since it's a 2650 mAh with a 1440p screen, but you do get a 5.2mm thin body),this phone can't be beaten by anything under 400$(I am the type of person who buys a phone and gets bored of it within a month, yet I still adore this device). The battery also charges from 0 to 100% in an hour and you can buy a battery mod if you really need a lot of juice on the go.
what other problems are you facing ?
how much screen on time are you getting ? are there any other problems ?
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I paid 400$ for it when I encountered a 50% reduction in August(it costs 800$ in Croatia) and I can tell you this:
If you don't care about battery life(which is logically not great since it's a 2650 mAh with a 1440p screen, but you do get a 5.2mm thin body),this phone can't be beaten by anything under 400$. The battery also charges from 0 to 100% in an hour and you can buy a battery mod if you really need a lot of juice on the go.
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how much screen on time are you getting ? are there any other problems ?
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With a custom rom(and a full black theme) the on-screen time is a lot higher. Honestly, I don't count that much but I get through a regular day without issues(listen to music on my way to college, take a few pics here and there, go through the web, chat, play non-intensive games, listen to music on the way back). It definitely helps that the battery charges fast.
Agree with above, just got mine 1 week ago for similar price. Obviously still tinkering but my opinion so far :
- If you are okay with bad battery life (max 4 hours SoT with stock rom & careful usage for me), it's a definite buy with that price.
- Mediocre camera can be fixed by using Google Camera HDR+ port for Snapdragon 820. It is recently ported and we can hope for better port in the future.
- If you are afraid of AMOLED burn in, there are many options to prevent it. Personally, I am using Tiles + Edge Gesture for non-root user.
- Major drawback is battery life, it can be fixed to some extent with custom rom & full dark theme as mentioned above. Or, try to find bargain for battery power pack. But, I just found out that using power pack will cause Doze never kick in, so battery drain is high. Seems installing NapTime to force doze while charging did the trick for me but still testing.
At that price if you don't want it let us know where to get it. With the Turbo Power adding just $79 if you really want very long battery life or the $49 for a slim Power Pack for long battery life you still have a good deal. It's a way to charge your phone differently it might make you a Z fan. I think mods are awesome and the battery mod can prolong the life and health of the internal battery using efficiency mode.
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- If you are afraid of AMOLED burn in, there are many options to prevent it. Personally, I am using Tiles + Edge Gesture for non-root user.
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thanks Everyone
Thanks everyone but the battery is a deal breaker for me. i rather use my moto x play with a massive battery.
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I got this amazing offer on moto Z more than 50% off. Should i buy it. i read alot of reviews that battery life sucks or volte problem or Bluetooth or wifi problems i am just really confused. Should i just buy a mid tier phone with mid tier secs and forget the flagship of 2016.
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I recently am getting a deal on purchasing a moto z with the turbopower mod at just about 12000 rs. / 180 usd , should i buy it or not?
My queries usually whirl around these pointers....
1.how good is the battery life? (sot and standby) after the last oreo update.
2.is the snapdragon 820 so much powerful over the sd 625 of the moto z play to force me make difficult choice ,despite the loss of battery life?
3.shall the battery suffice for half a day if my usage covers up around the instagram,youtube,a little bit of photography and movies playback on it?
4.so even if the battery lasts for atleast a half working day,would the mod be able to top up my phone,just enough to suffice my same usage for the rest of the day so that i wont have the need of reaching the charger for 2nd time in that day.
If you have the Turbopower Mod it should definitely last you at least a day. Without I usually get around 3 hours of sot. Yes, the battery capacity is tiny, but the mod doubles it basically. Concerning the performance: I think it's more future proof to buy a device with a little bit more power. Also, if you suddenly do something a little more demanding, this should help too. Even though the CPU is two generations older, it's still a very capable performer. The deal you got is very tempting and affordable, but I don't know if you should take it.
Snapdragon 820 walks over the SD625 when it comes to performance, and for that price, it's definitely worth it.
There are stronger phones of course, but at 180 $ nothing beats it. Heck, I can't think of a better phone for under 400$.
I've not seen any discussion on battery life since the launch of the Note 10. Would people please share:
1. How is it now that there's been time for Samsung to fix early issues
2. Did Android 10 upgrade help?
3. Does it last through a day of heavy use?
4. Snapdragon or Exynos?
More info: I'm considering buying the Note 10 but the original reviews are mixed. Some say battery life is good but most say it's disappointing. It would be to replace an iPhone XS that is 12 months old, battery health is a shocking 84% and the SoT time is less than 3 hours, so I won't be buying any more overpriced junk from Apple. I'm in the UK so would be getting the Exynos unless I take a risk and grey import a Snapdragon, and live without the warranty.
More battery life is *always* better, but I really have no complaints about my Note 10 battery. It lasts all day, every day. I average 5.5 hours SOT, but it would get a lot more if I pushed it below 10% charge. However, I rarely let it drop below 30%, or fully charge to 100%. I try to take it off the charger between 60-80% to preserve long-term battery life. So while 5.5 hours SOT may seem low to other Note users, I am averaging 5.5 hours SOT from only a 50-70% charge, which is pretty damn good imo.
I disabled some apps that I'll never use, but otherwise I don't need to gimp it to make it through the day. I noticed a slight improvement in battery life with Android 10. I don't do much gaming, but I do a lot of web browsing, YouTube, and listen to Google Play Music and Sirius XM, and it has no problems lasting a full day.
I have the Snapdragon model. I don't have any experience with the Exynos model, but if you are in the UK, then I would recommend going with Exynos just for the warranty. There may be some YouTube videos comparing the battery and performance differences, you may want to look for those. I remember a couple of years ago the Exynos models were noticeably worse as far as battery, but I think the latest Exynos chips have closed the gap.
If battery life is a top priority, then you should consider the Note 10+ which has 23% larger battery (4300 vs 3500 mAh).
One last thing to consider: The Galaxy S20 models are right around the corner. I am not trying to talk you out of a Note, but if you can live without the Spen, you might want to wait for the Galaxy S20 Plus and Ultra. The Plus model is supposed to have a 4500 mAh battery, and the Ultra is rumored to have a massive 5000 mAh battery.
Edit: Btw, congrats on graduating from iOS. You'll love the customizability of Android, and now that RCS is available, you won't miss iMessage as much :good:
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I've not seen any discussion on battery life since the launch of the Note 10. Would people please share:
1. How is it now that there's been time for Samsung to fix early issues
2. Did Android 10 upgrade help?
3. Does it last through a day of heavy use?
4. Snapdragon or Exynos?
More info: I'm considering buying the Note 10 but the original reviews are mixed. Some say battery life is good but most say it's disappointing. It would be to replace an iPhone XS that is 12 months old, battery health is a shocking 84% and the SoT time is less than 3 hours, so I won't be buying any more overpriced junk from Apple. I'm in the UK so would be getting the Exynos unless I take a risk and grey import a Snapdragon, and live without the warranty.
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I own exynos note10 plus
Battery time is average.
battery timing is inversely proportional to the time you are free
sublimaze said:
More battery life is *always* better, but I really have no complaints about my Note 10 battery. It lasts all day, every day. I average 5.5 hours SOT, but it would get a lot more if I pushed it below 10% charge. However, I rarely let it drop below 30%, or fully charge to 100%. I try to take it off the charger between 60-80% to preserve long-term battery life. So while 5.5 hours SOT may seem low to other Note users, I am averaging 5.5 hours SOT from only a 50-70% charge, which is pretty damn good imo.
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Edit: Btw, congrats on graduating from iOS. You'll love the customizability of Android, and now that RCS is available, you won't miss iMessage as much :good:
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Thanks for taking the time to reply - appreciate it. Sounds like our usage patterns are similar. I don’t really game but I use web and media on public transport for a couple of hours a day, in poor signal areas so every phone I’ve had struggles.
Am trying to keep phone size down, the Note 10 Plus is definitely too big! I like the fact that with the standard Note 10 it’s almost the same size as my current iPhone XS, just 5mm taller.
Re graduating (haha) I’ve had android before. Before this iPhone I had the OnePlus 5T and really liked it until I changed cars and it completely refused to talk to the audio system.
I found a YouTube video comparing the Qualcomm and Exynos Note 10’s and in his test he got 7 hrs from the Exynos and 8hrs from the Snapdragon. Wow, bit of a difference.
Will see what the S20 (standard size) is like, and then decide whether to risk an imported Note 10 [emoji106]
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Correction, the video of the Snapdragon getting another hour of screen time is the S10, not the Note 10, which means the Exynos is the 8nm 9820 rather than the 9825 in the Note.
Video for reference https://youtu.be/shrYnaxVenE
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I've not seen any discussion on battery life since the launch of the Note 10. Would people please share:
1. How is it now that there's been time for Samsung to fix early issues
2. Did Android 10 upgrade help?
3. Does it last through a day of heavy use?
4. Snapdragon or Exynos?
More info: I'm considering buying the Note 10 but the original reviews are mixed. Some say battery life is good but most say it's disappointing. It would be to replace an iPhone XS that is 12 months old, battery health is a shocking 84% and the SoT time is less than 3 hours, so I won't be buying any more overpriced junk from Apple. I'm in the UK so would be getting the Exynos unless I take a risk and grey import a Snapdragon, and live without the warranty.
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So i got my Exynos note10 (not a new one, a used one but in a good shape) a week ago running android Q, and the battery drain was a little bit higher than average (compared to what people claiming in the battery section). So i decided to do a fresh reset by flashing a firmware using odin, after that i did some optimizations, disabling features that i dont really need, debloating some apps and waiting for the phone to learn my battery usage pattern (it took me around 4-5 days).So now I can get 7 to 8 hours of SOT using Chrome as my web browser, social media apps, and youtube. So yeah i think the 3500 mah battery is doing a pretty good job.
That’s really good, lots of owners don’t get that out of the Plus model
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So i got my Exynos note10 (not a new one, a used one but in a good shape) a week ago running android Q, and the battery drain was a little bit higher than average (compared to what people claiming in the battery section). So i decided to do a fresh reset by flashing a firmware using odin, after that i did some optimizations, disabling features that i dont really need, debloating some apps and waiting for the phone to learn my battery usage pattern (it took me around 4-5 days).So now I can get 7 to 8 hours of SOT using Chrome as my web browser, social media apps, and youtube. So yeah i think the 3500 mah battery is doing a pretty good job.
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Can you tell us more what did you disable, what did you uninstall/disabled and more...
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Can you tell us more what did you disable, what did you uninstall/disabled and more...
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So the first thing i did was to flash a stock firmware and root it using magisk. Then i charged my phone until it get 100%, i use it until it dies and cannot get booted again (when the phone dies keep rebooting it until it cannot get rebooted again). I did the charging and discharging thing twice. I think this step is like calibrating your battery, correct me if I am wrong.
Then thanks to this post : https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-10/how-to/galaxy-note-10-note-10-plus-debloat-t3964225 i debloated Bixby, samsung pass / pay , samsung sticker center... Do this step at your own risk because you can brick your phone if you didnt choose correctly what to debloat.
Then i enabled Adaptive power saving, put unused apps to sleep, Optimise Battery usage and i restricted background activity and i use dark mode all the time.
I disabled Air action and all features related to S pen ( i only use s pen for writing).
You may not notice a big difference in the battery life until your phone learns usage pettern ("Learning pattern" usage becomes "An estimated time" in device care battery's section)
If you are on a rooted phone then you can use greenify to hibernate other apps.
Additional information, my phone battery drains from like 100% to 80% much quicker and then it start to go slower and slower because each battery behaves in a different way.
Took another look at the Note 10 today and think it's an absolutely stunning looking device. Best looking phone around for me. I noted in the Samsung store that they don't offer any sort of satisfaction guarantee, which is disappointing. Would have been tempted to take one if I had some insurance on the battery life not working out.
But the S20 has now launched, and it's impressive from a specs point of view. Time to see how the S20 reviews play out.
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Took another look at the Note 10 today and think it's an absolutely stunning looking device. Best looking phone around for me. I noted in the Samsung store that they don't offer any sort of satisfaction guarantee, which is disappointing. Would have been tempted to take one if I had some insurance on the battery life not working out.
But the S20 has now launched, and it's impressive from a specs point of view. Time to see how the S20 reviews play out.
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Yes, the S20 phones are phenomenal, especially the S20 Ultra. Which means the Note 11/20 will be an absolute beast
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So the first thing i did was to flash a stock firmware and root it using magisk. Then i charged my phone until it get 100%, i use it until it dies and cannot get booted again (when the phone dies keep rebooting it until it cannot get rebooted again). I did the charging and discharging thing twice. I think this step is like calibrating your battery, correct me if I am wrong.
Then thanks to this post : https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-10/how-to/galaxy-note-10-note-10-plus-debloat-t3964225 i debloated Bixby, samsung pass / pay , samsung sticker center... Do this step at your own risk because you can brick your phone if you didnt choose correctly what to debloat.
Then i enabled Adaptive power saving, put unused apps to sleep, Optimise Battery usage and i restricted background activity and i use dark mode all the time.
I disabled Air action and all features related to S pen ( i only use s pen for writing).
You may not notice a big difference in the battery life until your phone learns usage pettern ("Learning pattern" usage becomes "An estimated time" in device care battery's section)
If you are on a rooted phone then you can use greenify to hibernate other apps.
Additional information, my phone battery drains from like 100% to 80% much quicker and then it start to go slower and slower because each battery behaves in a different way.
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You are wrong this is really old battery habits. For several years and actual battery tech it's not recommended to fully discharge , the best way to improve battery life is to stay over 20% and avoid fast charging. That is also not how phone calibrates batteries.
Source: https://batteryuniversity.com/learn/
Battery life on the Snapdragon Note 10+ has been great. It stayed consistent with the Android 10 update. I had the Note 8 before this phone, and I'd have to say the 10+ is better.
Indeed the difference is not so abysmal as before
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Correction, the video of the Snapdragon getting another hour of screen time is the S10, not the Note 10, which means the Exynos is the 8nm 9820 rather than the 9825 in the Note.
Video for reference https://youtu.be/shrYnaxVenE
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Actually, there is a comparison for Note 10+ Exynos vs Snapdragon and indeed, the difference in battery is now minimal, of course the weak point for the Exynos is still the Mali GPU. So it looks like for power comsuption is now more even between Exynos 9825 and Snapdragon 855 (which is kind of obvious since both are 7nm)
Video of the comparison: https://youtu.be/Ni0sCLDoPPs
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Actually, there is a comparison for Note 10+ Exynos vs Snapdragon and indeed, the difference in battery is now minimal, of course the weak point for the Exynos is still the Mali GPU. So it looks like for power comsuption is now more even between Exynos 9825 and Snapdragon 855 (which is kind of obvious since both are 7nm)
Video of the comparison: https://youtu.be/Ni0sCLDoPPs
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Interesting thanks.
One of the things I’ve been bitten with on iPhones is the effect on battery life of the inferior Intel modems they’ve been using for the last few years. I went from an iPhone SE to an Xs and the difference in signal strength was definitely noticeable, and that will affect power consumption too.
I’m not saying this is the same with the Exynos modem but do tend to think that at this point, Qualcomm modems are the better
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