Hi all,
I recently did a full nandroid backup on my i9100 onto the external SD card, then took SD card and put into another i9100 and attempted a restore on that device using the nandroid backup from the other.
When I put the SD card back into the first phone, a bunch of apps are greyed out and can't be launched. They appear in the app manager (in settings) and on the launcher shortcuts screen, but there are no icons at all in the launcher apps grid (where all the apps are listed). When attempting to move them back onto the internal storage, the message is that they 'don't exist' .
Looking in the 'android_secure' folder in the SD card (with the card in a card reader on the PC) I found it to be empty, and its empty in the root explorer in android.
When I did the nandroid recovery on the second phone I also did a 'wipe data', 'wipe cache', and 'wipe dalvik cache' on the device during the install. I assumed this resulted in deleting the apps which were stored on the SD card as well, so I ran a data recovery on the 'android_secure' folder and found a bunch of deleted '.asec' files., (though no apks). Putting one of these asec files for one of the lost apps back into the -androi_secure' folder didnt result in the app data being recognised on the device though.
So now Im stuck looking for a way to get these apps back (on the first phone I mean) and am hoping someone could suggest what I could try next. Would the wipe of the second phone whilst it had the sd card in it have also wiped out the apps on the sd card? Are these .asec files what got wiped?
LiteROm Custom based on Jelly Bean
64Gb SD Card
Rooted i9100
Thanks for any suggestions.
califauna said:
Hi all,
I recently did a full nandroid backup on my i9100 onto the external SD card, then took SD card and put into another i9100 and attempted a restore on that device using the nandroid backup from the other.
When I put the SD card back into the first phone, a bunch of apps are greyed out and can't be launched. They appear in the app manager (in settings) and on the launcher shortcuts screen, but there are no icons at all in the launcher apps grid (where all the apps are listed). When attempting to move them back onto the internal storage, the message is that they 'don't exist' .
Looking in the 'android_secure' folder in the SD card (with the card in a card reader on the PC) I found it to be empty, and its empty in the root explorer in android.
When I did the nandroid recovery on the second phone I also did a 'wipe data', 'wipe cache', and 'wipe dalvik cache' on the device during the install. I assumed this resulted in deleting the apps which were stored on the SD card as well, so I ran a data recovery on the 'android_secure' folder and found a bunch of deleted '.asec' files., (though no apks). Putting one of these asec files for one of the lost apps back into the -androi_secure' folder didnt result in the app data being recognised on the device though.
So now Im stuck looking for a way to get these apps back (on the first phone I mean) and am hoping someone could suggest what I could try next. Would the wipe of the second phone whilst it had the sd card in it have also wiped out the apps on the sd card? Are these .asec files what got wiped?
LiteROm Custom based on Jelly Bean
64Gb SD Card
Rooted i9100
Thanks for any suggestions.
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Install titanium backup pro, and check if the apps are frozen. If they are, then defrost them and then you can use them. But, since you did a data-wipe before the backup, your data can not be recovered. You can also try this app, which can recover some data partially - https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.defianttech.diskdigger&hl=en
Regards.
warrior1208 said:
Install titanium backup pro, and check if the apps are frozen. If they are, then defrost them and then you can use them. But, since you did a data-wipe before the backup, your data can not be recovered. You can also try this app, which can recover some data partially - https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.defianttech.diskdigger&hl=en
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The apps aren't frozen - I have checked this and the apps are listed as grey icons that 'dont exist' according to the application manager.
I have done a data recovery using R-stuio already, and as I mention, .asec files were found for each of the missing apps (right there in the 'android_secure' folder on the SD card). Are these files useful, or do I need to recover another type of file?
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Hi everyone,
I just updated my Aria to FR007 and really want to have a 'brand new' phone look + feel.
I would like to delete ALL unnecessary files in the SD card & phone memory cos at the moment, I feel like something is not amiss.
I only have 574mb left out of the stock 2gb SD card. And my internal phone storage have only 132mb available space left.
I would like to save only my nandroid backup in the SDcard and nothing else. So deleting all other datas like saved apps, games, contacts, images, music and others are fine.
Please advice what procedure I need to follow as I am not familiar with what files are safe to delete. Is it safe to just do this:
Settings > SD & Phone Storage >Factory Data Reset ?
Thank you for your advice!
I would like to know this as well because out of a 8GB SD card (7.59GB) i only have 549MB remaining and i only have 1 nandroid back up and 3 GB of music on the phone.
That's a loaded question dependant upon what apps are installed. Many apps create folders and populate the sd card in some form.
Best I can tell you, mount the storage and copy the sd content to your computer. Erase the sdcard content and see what happens after reboot. Should only potentially bother 3rd party apps.
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Thanks for the advice BelacNongaw.
I thought about that too but I was thinking maybe there are some system files or essential files that MUST be in the SD card. And also, wouldn't deleting everything in the SD card also delete my nandroid backup? And Clockwork? <-They do reside in the SD card, yes?
Let me reiterate please: I want a 'brand new' phone while keeping only my last nandroid backup Will a factory reset do?
Thanks again everyone!
I had the same problem and the only thing I noticed was nandroid backups take a lot of space and also apps that have been deleted keep their folders in the sd card
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Okay this is what I did:
1. Back up my SDcard to the computer (plug it in, mount as disk drive, copy all contents to a folder on the desktop).
2. Restart the Aria in Recovery mode (Vol. down while Power up)
3. Go to Recovery > Partitions > Format SD Card
Now I have 1.84gb of SD storage with these folders (viewed in Astro):
1. .footprints / thumbnails / voices
2. LOST.DIR
3. tmp / .astro / astro
Haven't tested everything yet but eBuddy and Market are doing well, downloading and app installation are running fine too.
Now I'm quite concerned about the following:
1. Does this mean that I do not have clockwork anymore? Because there was a 'clockworkmod' folder in the SDcard before I formatted it.
2. Am I screwed?
Thank you for any suggestions/advice. I hope this thread can offer some helpful tips to those who need it in the future.
You are fine. The clockworkmod folder is where rom manager downloads and your nandroid backups are stored. You can just copy it back or rom manager will generate it again next time you nandroid backup.
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Thanks for reminding me BelacNongaw.
I just made a nandroid backup of my bare minimum Aria, and it automaticall created a clockworkmod folder in the SDcard with the md5 file.
Anyways, it's great to have all these space now
Great post guys I was wondering this myself. I recently rooted my inspire 4g to factory restore but all 3rd party apps are still on the sd card and i have no intention of re-installing any of them so i am looking for a safe way to delete unnessesary folders without deleting the vital ones, ill give your suggestions a try.
Technically you can safely delete everything that's on the sd card. Android will automatically create whatever folders it needs. Of course you'll lose any data saved to the sd, but you wont mess up your phone at all.
Sent from my cm7 Aria.
i have a g2 but i have the same thoughts i want the space back from sd card not worried about loosing any thing just dont want to mess the phone up
Don't worry. SD card is totally an external of the phone. Delete everything, it doesn't matter. And backup your needed files to any place you like. You can move them back to your reformatted SD card whenever you like.
Hi,
I've looked around, but noone had same problem as me.
I have Titanium Backup, and i did a backup on my 34 apps to my externals SD. Today i installed new ROM so i wanted to restore these apps, but titanium can't do this.
This is how i do:
1. I went in to Preferences --> restoration settings --> "Restore backups to..." and there is choosed "external media".
2. I went back to first screen --> batch---> restore , but there's no apps there at all.
Please help.
Sounds like you didn't backup your SD card which contains the Titanium backups you have made before installing the new rom. Your new ROM may have formatted your SD card, am I correct?
Deeco7 said:
Sounds like you didn't backup your SD card which contains the Titanium backups you have made before installing the new rom. Your new ROM may have formatted your SD card, am I correct?
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No, all the files are at the SD card, i made a map called "titanium backup" where i placed all the backups, and they're still there. But titanium wont restore these.
Pretty lame, i bought the pro version for the "single click" function, meaning restore everything in single click, but it's useless if i can't save these to SD card.
Edit: I tried move the entire folder to internal SD, but same, titanium wont recognize anything.
Darwichee said:
No, all the files are at the SD card, i made a map called "titanium backup" where i placed all the backups, and they're still there. But titanium wont restore these.
Pretty lame, i bought the pro version for the "single click" function, meaning restore everything in single click, but it's useless if i can't save these to SD card.
Edit: I tried move the entire folder to internal SD, but same, titanium wont recognize anything.
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Oh ok, try checking the file sizes of the backup and let me know.
Check TB preferences for backup location, and scan the entire device it should locate the folder with your backups.
And from then on that will be your backup folder.
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Check TB preferences for backup location, and scan the entire device it should locate the folder with your backups.
And from then on that will be your backup folder.
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Thanks i managed to solve this now, and now TB can find those apps, but when i press begin and it begins to restoring, nothing happens, it stuck at 0%, does this happend to you to when you use your external SD to restore?
I've tried 3 times now, and it allways stuck at 0%.
Edit: i moved the folder to Phones internal memory, but same, it wont load my backups.
What could be the problem?
I had this problem once too.
copy the folder with the TB backups to our PC and formate the sd card. additionally I reinstalled the whole rom too. And after that try again. It worked for me.
blacksec said:
I had this problem once too.
copy the folder with the TB backups to our PC and formate the sd card. additionally I reinstalled the whole rom too. And after that try again. It worked for me.
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Ok, i installed a new ROM today anyway, and i formated my external SD too. Is it enogh to format it in phone settings, or i need to do it in PC, or it doesn't matter?
I get back if i still have the same problem again,
thanks
for me it worked with the recovery formatting tool.
Hi
I read about this in a thread...
You might want to try this:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1432699
Hy guys, there is something I dont understand about nandroid. I flashed my rom, kernel, downloaded apps, change setting, homescreen etc. and now i would like to back it up exactly as it is. I read that nandroid is best for that but it doesnt backup sd card? whats up with that. I look at my sd card with root explorer and there are many folder and files that were made by apps when they were insteled on the phone.Does it backup that also? Also i have many apps, apps2sd, will it make backup of them also?
It won't back up your entire phone onto your phone. It would get really big with all the music, videos, etc, that a person might have. If you have your external card mounted then you can attach via a USB cable to your computer then either with adb or with a file manager copy all of /mnt/sdcard youlle get the important things that nandroid does not. The exception I can think of is that it doesn't seem to back up your modem firmware, so if your partial to a particular one then just have it as a flashable file.
Ok, thanks, so it doesnt backup internal sd card because someone told me yesterday that it does? If i copy the entire sd card to PC and latter copy it back to mobile like that will it work. First i recover nandroid backup, than i format internal sd card and than copy all the files back to sd card.
A Nandroid backup will copy a lot, but it can't copy everything or there wouldn't be room on the device for it to be practical. It is quite supprising how much it will keep; it just isn't a complete backup solution is all.
Addressing your question though, as for copying the entire sd card, you really only need to copy the folder /mnt/sdcard or /sdcard ; the latter is a symlink to /mnt/sdcard
If you try to copy your entire sdcard then it is possible to end up with data from partitions that will take forever to copy and that you really don't want, for example /proc on the phone is just kernel information that doesn't even exist when the phone is turned off. To keep things simple, everything is part of the ROM and kernel except for /mnt/sdcard and in the case of and external sd card, /mnt/sdcard/external_sd but the latter (/mnt/sdcard/external_sd) will be copied along with the first one provided it is mounted when you do it.
The only other exception to what needs to be backed up is a partition called /efs and there are various tutorials with various methods about how to do that. I would follow one of them rather than just copying the data out as its a partition that holds unique information about the phone that it can't function with if it gets messed up. This is more immediately important and I think there's quite simply some apps that will do it for you if you look at the sticky threads here. The files will be on your phone though so you'lle want to pull them off on to your computer for sure.
As for your friend's advice, though, you won't typically ever need more than a Nandroid backup unless something happens to that other data, for example if there's filesystem corruption. If you do a restore of your ROM then it still retains all your music and photo goodies or whatever, app settings get wiped though where they are retained with Nandroid. The only thing that I'd worry about is if the impending update to Ice Cream Sandwhich somehow wipes suff, or if you play around at the command line a lot make a mistake unintentionally. If it weren't for the updates and beta ICS releases we're seeing then I'd simply be telling you not to worry about it, but to back things up and be done with it.
By the way, doesn't Kies back things up? I don't have it so I don't remember but it seems like that's how I initially got things onto it and that it has a sync option. Perhaps this is enough?....
Igor 3 said:
Hy guys, there is something I dont understand about nandroid. I flashed my rom, kernel, downloaded apps, change setting, homescreen etc. and now i would like to back it up exactly as it is. I read that nandroid is best for that but it doesnt backup sd card? whats up with that. I look at my sd card with root explorer and there are many folder and files that were made by apps when they were insteled on the phone.Does it backup that also? Also i have many apps, apps2sd, will it make backup of them also?
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Man just do the backup and don't worry about the sd card files/folders. The reason it doesn't back them up is because they stay there anyway. Eg, if you uninstall an app, a folder that was created by it on your sd card is still there. Flashing firmware, including wipe versions doesn't touch the 11.5gb internal storage or external storage.
BTW, most of my internal sd card is used up and 25gb is used up on my external card. If the backup was to include those a 64gb memory card wouldn't be enough.
Between the S1 and S2 I've backed up and restored over 100 times, including after fully wiping the phone (but not formatting sd cards) and the phone always looks and functions exactly as before, including apps.
So, only copy memory card files to PC if you intend to format the internal / external cards or if you are worried you might lose stuff if the memories become corrupted.
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Thanks guys for you help. I dont use Kies also so i dont know and, yes, i format sd card before flashing every rom so i would probably format it also before making restore of nandroid backup. Also when i delete some app a delete a folder created by it on sd card. OK, than i will make a nandroid backup and copy mnt/sdcard on PC so if it ever gets corupted i can restore everything. As for efs folder, Neak kerenl made a backup of that automatic so i just made a copy of that on PC.
Every so often I go though the folders on the sd cards and clean them up a little but I have never formatted the sd cards. I don't really think you should do it with every flash.
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I want to redo my phone like I just got it. I'm going re-flash everything with either the stock rom or a custom rom. What needs to be on the original card? Like starting from new without all the cluttered folders and random files.
I have updated ie. Hboot 1.5, radios, 2.17 and S-off still.
You should make a backup of your SD card "its always nice to have a backup"
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Also I suggest making a nandroid backup before backing up your SD card so you will have a copy of a recent nandroid in your SD backup incase you have to restore it one day.
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""Warning"" if you do this and still have applications on your phone/current Rom that have placed folders/that are linked to/on the SD card you could experience force closes,app freezes etc. To fix this uninstall and reinstall the application.
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This can be done via Windows 7,Vista,xp.
Format your SD VIA pc/laptop and restore it to the factory defaults. Then put it back into your phone. Then boot up. Once booted into your Rom hit menu then choose settings. Then scroll down to "SD & phone storage" and tap on it. Then unmount the SD card. Then format the SD card. Once its done formating it will automatically mount the SD card and place the correct folders on it. Reboot afterwards and you should be good to go. Hope this helps.
Also here's a link you might find helpful
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10878511&postcount=8311
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If you are going to do a factory reset or a rom flash, you should be ok wiping the card. If you were to try to wipe the card with the current rom you are on, you will run into problems as all your apps will freak out when they see their data missing.
And you don't need to have anything on the sd card from the start. Wipe the card, then flash your new rom and put the card in, android should format it properly the first time. It will just add the required folders/paths that it needs.
I was trying to root my HTC One V and i unlocked the bootlocker,however that resulted in factory reset of my phone.Whenever i installed an app on my phone i always moved it to sd card via settings-->apps.I assumed that once my phone restarts after factory reset it will read the apps in the sd card but it is not so.The phone does read songs,pictures and contacts stored on my sd card and the sd card does have the folder of each app but how do i install it from the sd card?
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The stock android move-app-to-sd does not move all app data to the sd card and some data is left on the device on purpose.
I might be wrong (since I never researched this) but I think you cannot restore those apps.
Fabur87 said:
The stock android move-app-to-sd does not move all app data to the sd card and some data is left on the device on purpose.
I might be wrong (since I never researched this) but I think you cannot restore those apps.
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Okay
But is it possible that if i install the same app again,it reads the application settings from the sd card?Like if i download and install a game,is it possible for the game to read my score from it's folder in the sd card?
If the app is storing this kind of information (settings etc.) on the sd-card as a separate file then I would say that it is very likely that it will be able to read that data.
But not all apps store that kind of information on the sd-card (security reasons etc.).
I am not sure what happens to the parts of the app itself that are still on the sd-card though (I am talking about the app itself). I guess that the app will not care about those if it is stored in the internal storage. Moving the app to the sd card will probably overwrite the data on the sd-card. If the app stores the settings etc. in one of its own files then it might be overwritten as well.
You might want to make a backup of those files, even if you can't use the information in the end. But if they are gone they are gone.
Some really crazy idea would be to download the app, move it to the sd-card and then overwrite the files on the sd with the ones from the backup.
If android has no verification or security methods for this and there was no update to the app there might be a small change that this will work.
But I guess that the chances to get all your settings and user data back are still very slim as those are possibly not stored there.
But if you have the backup and some xda user swings by with a good idea (or more knowledge that me) you can still try that.