cifs.ko module / Busybox / mounting CIFS shares - Nexus 9 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

cifs.ko module / Busybox / mounting CIFS shares - Nexus 9 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hello all. In the last 24 hours I've racked my head against a wall and I can't seem to get past this. So some pointers would be very welcome.
Backstory - Been doing backups of Titanium Backup onto my Nexus 9 (16GB internal storage) and I'm running into problems with running out of storage space. So I thought I'd look into doing a CIFS share mountpoint to my tablet and backup directly to the CIFS shares on my FreeNAS box. I figure a couple TB of storage is enough to store my Titanium Backups.
So first I read about CIFS Manager. Seems it may be discontinued or not functional on Lollipop.
Then I read about Busybox. Very cool, I think I'd marry Busybox if it was a woman. It seems so amazing I bought the Busybox Pro version.
So I tried to mount the CIFS/SMB share but I keep getting the dreaded "no device found" which means the cifs.ko isn't loaded. Apparently it's not in OS by default, so I need to compile it. (I'm not against someone giving me the .ko file, but I'd rather learn how to fish for myself than expect someone to give me a fish when I'm hungry) I have no clue how to compile it or even where to start to get a resemblance of the necessary steps. My experience is mostly Windows and FreeBSD, with only enough knowledge of linux to be very dangerous. I've tried searching all over for some kind of guide, pointers on what files I need to get, where to go to compile, etc but there seems to be nobody out there with any kind of good guide, even an outdated one I could use to fill in the blanks. I was hoping to put together a fairly detailed guide that includes steps on how to compile the cifs.ko yourself from source as well as mount your share on the device for whatever purposes you desire. But I'm finding that there is basically no info online on how to do this, where the source is, how to compile it, etc. If you know how to do this and are willing to help me write the guide (I've written quite a few articles on FreeNAS and ZFS) I'd be more than happy to give you some credit. I have no doubt lots of people will use the document once it is created.
Alternatively I considered doing the same with NFS but again I'd need to compile the nfs.ko module, so I'm stuck at the same point there.
Anyone have any pointers on how to do this? Or, anyone have any other options that will work just as well that allow me to not have to store the actual titanium backup files locally?
About the only thing I can find is someone saying that you need a Linux VM, the kernel sources, sdk, some knowledge in unix, and patience. But hell, I don't know if by saying "kernel sources" they are talking about the kernel source for the Linux VM or the Android OS I'm running (or both), if the SDK is referring to the Android SDK or not, etc.
Thanks in advance!

Joshy8 said:
Or, anyone have any other options that will work just as well that allow me to not have to store the actual titanium backup files locally?
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I was in the same boat as you a few years back. Basically I would root, find a kernel that had the CIFS module, then use CIFS Manager to mount the shares. I would also use rsync & busybox. This stuff is tricky. The command to get Android to mount the shares, the CIFS module and kernel always has to be up to date, changes in busybox, etc.. I dreaded Android system updates. It starts to feel like a Rube Goldberg machine.
I started using an app called FolderSync (there's a paid version, too) and never looked back. It works quietly in the background and have never had any problem with it. It's one of the best apps on Android.

I do thank you for the advice, but that's how I've been doing backups for several years. I bought it back when the original Droid phone came out.
However in this case, since my tablet has only 16GB of internal memory and you can't easily have permanently attached external storage I'm forced to come up with an alternative of some kind.
I have had some problems lately with FolderSync. Not sure exactly what the problem is, but FolderSync seems to have issues from time to time and it gets stuck on random files and never finishes, even if left to complete for several days. I've had this issue randomly on 3 different devices, and one of my friends that also uses FolderSync has had the same issue on his. So I'm pretty sure there's a bug of some kind in FolderSync that sometimes breaks it.
Anyway, since my tablet has only 16GB of internal memory and you can't easily have permanently attached external storage I'm forced to come up with an alternative where the data is never actually stored on the device itself. :/

I know this isn't the answer you were looking for, but have you seen these:
http://www.meenova.com/st/p/mrg2.html
It's the closest thing I've found to convenient usable external storage.
Sent from my Nexus 9

The Fire-Ice kernel (http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-9/orig-development/kernel-fire-ice-t2930451) supports CIFS. I use it to connect to my SAMBA linux server. I also did the following, not sure if both of these are necessary: set SELinux to permissive with SELinux Mode Changer, and use the "patched" version of CIFS Manager (found on this forum).
I'm still hoping somebody will just write or cross-compile a FUSE module (like SMBnetFS) that works on all rooted devices, so we don't have to rely on custom kernels/modules anymore...
Since you asked for alternatives, you can also just get an OTG cable and hook up a USB stick or external HD to your phone (needs root and an app like StickMount).

Thanks for the reply. Been a bit busy with life stuff and just finally got to sit back down and look at this again.
I agree that a FUSE module would be useful for something like this. I don't have a need for high performance with regards to this problem, so a FUSE module would seem very appropriate.
I do have an OTG cable and I do have a 64GB thumbdrive I can use. I was just hoping for something that was a little non-obtrusive and passive so that I'm not actively having to be involved in the backup process itself. As soon as someone in the meat-world has to take active steps to make a backup every time, that's when backups typically stop happening, and then the next thing that happens is data loss. So I'm trying to remove myself from the equation as much as possible.

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[THINK TANK - WIP] Apps2SD on Nexus with Option on Install Location

Hi all,
If you are going to say we don't need Apps2SD on the N1, please leave the thread now . (Actually, read on) There are various reasons I can think of why we need Apps2SD on the N1, and one of the biggest is actually Games. I don't really play any games to begin with, but the last I checked, some games are as large as 19MB, possibly more. Isn't it kind of crappy that the N1, the superphone, can't hold more than 10 such games?
I started this thread with the intention of gathering more information, and hopefully some coders will do it (including myself, if I've the time). Package Manager (the thing in charge of installing, if I'm not wrong), is in the AOSP, under frameworks/base. In such a case, wouldn't it be possible for some programmer to mod it such that it will ask you whether to install to (SD/Phone) before each installation process?
The other issue is, looking at current implementation of A2SD, it seems all apps on Phone are moved to the SD card partition. If we can have an implementation that allows both to co-exist, in addition to the Package Manager mod, I'd say we'll have a pretty nice implementation.
Your thoughts/findings? I may be completely off, have yet to actually look at the AOSP source.
Update:
@ChrisSoyars has an early implementation of this in his SnackPack - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=638301
I would also like to thank everyone else for their valuable input and support ! Keep them coming. Lastly, sorry I'm not doing much code-wise (not at all), school work's too much .

Would be nice!
....I've got the same problem. Some application are very big and so i have got only 10MB free space anymore...

ADB is god
See my attachment file
And...there is already a post about app2SD and this is not in the correct section...

lazinase said:
See my attachment file
And...there is already a post about app2SD and this is not in the correct section...
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that doesnt work on roms like the desire by modaco. app2sd doesnt work, ive tried that method and it just hangs. true there is a thread already for app2sd, but its not going anywhere in terms of the newest desire release. i know its still early, but i only had like 50mb for apps and i have over 120 apps and i didnt feel like reinstalling. someone fix it please.

Apps to SD is of course necessary. The Nexus doesn't really have that much space for apps - about 190mb which is only the same as the Hero.
I have apps 2 SD working with CM 5.0.3 from the kitchen.
its also addable to a CM rom using the how to thread.
It WAS working ok with MoDaCo ROMS but for some reason has ceased to work and causes bootloops if you bake it in - shame...
I've no coding experience, but willing to test stuff out anytime.....
Dayz xx

i think what Wysie is trying to do is stimulate discussion about a different way to do A2SD.
He, and a lot of people believe (including myself) that running apps from the sd makes them slower, so what he wants is like WM where when you install an app it gives you an option to install it either onthe device or on the sd. So you can choose to install your most used and apps that require speed the most on your device...
And if this isnt thread development where the hell should he have posted it? It certainly is development if you ask me. he is thinking of ways to develop a better A2SD.

Seems like unionfs + some kind of app to manage which apps live where might work. This would require kernel support, however. You would set up /data/app and /data/app-private as union mounts of (say) /data/app-internal with /sdcard/app and /data/app-private-internal with /sdcard/app-private. You would then want a custom app management tool to move things to the appropriate places.

Nice initative Wysie.
My suggestions are as follows:
Use a different mount point, not inside any of the other file systems.
Like /apps2sd, this makes it alot easier to handle in the recovery realm (which is what I care about).
As for handling the specific apps installed in either /data/app or /apps2sd I suggest we have a look at something simple. Like symlinking individual apps.
Ext filesystem is mounted on /apps2sd on boot.
New installs of apps are done in /data/app like normally. /data/app is not symlinked to the apps2sd directory like it is today.
If a user want a app to be stored on apps2sd instead of in /data/app a management app can just move the .apk from /data/app to /apps2sd and set up a symlink it up into /data/app again.
Simple demonstration:
Initial state, two apps installed normally:
/data/app:
SomeApp.apk
SomeOtherApp.apk
/apps2sd
<empty>
Now the user moves SomeApp to apps2sd:
/data/app
SomeApp.apk -> /apps2sd/SomeApp.apk (symlink)
SomeOtherApp.apk
/apps2sd
SomeApp.apk
If this is possible, i.e. making sure that Android doesn't bork on symlinked apps (can't see why it would, but best to make sure). This is clean simple way handle it. It gives more control on what apps are stored where, better handling of ext stuff in recovery.
Also writing scripts/apps to facilitate this is trivial since it's so simple.
What do you think? Want input especially from ROM makers.

packetlss said:
As for handling the specific apps installed in either /data/app or /apps2sd I suggest we have a look at something simple. Like symlinking individual apps.
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Okay, that's better than my idea, assuming it works. One disadvantage is that removing the SD card breaks all the links. You could conceivably swap cards with the unionfs approach, as long as you were not using any widgets or launcher icons which rely on APKs in the SD storage, and had a way to properly unmount the disk. Might not be worth the complexity, though.

I think the biggest issue is with regards to removal of SD card. You guys have made it way more complex than I thought, thanks for enlightening/sharing !
I thought it could be as simple as simply modifying the Apps2SD script to allow apps to exist on both the sdcard and the phone, and then modifying the Package Manager to prompt the user on where to install to. Keep those thoughts/opinions coming!
If it wasn't for my school work and lousy time management i'd definitely start doing something. For now, it's good enough if all the necessary knowledge is shared here, then some dev can actually start work and put it on github or something for the rest of the community to contribute!

i haven't looked deeply into android's files. but i've worked on hacking motorola phones to engineer a packet manager system. (EZX phones)
i believe the solution that we want isn't with the use of symlink or that sort. we should aim to find a clean, programmatic way of doing it - built to the heart of android.
any idea how android am manage the apps on the phone? is there an sqlite app db or something? how does it store the installed applications information?

arctu said:
i haven't looked deeply into android's files. but i've worked on hacking motorola phones to engineer a packet manager system. (EZX phones)
i believe the solution that we want isn't with the use of symlink or that sort. we should aim to find a clean, programmatic way of doing it - built to the heart of android.
any idea how android am manage the apps on the phone? is there an sqlite app db or something? how does it store the installed applications information?
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Well, you have to remember that the solution should work on stuff that we do not have source access to, like people wanting to use on ported ROMs or a rooted stock ROM.

I tried to simlink apk's but for some reason it didn't work, simlink the app directory works.
I think the best way would be to add paths in the program that actually searches/launches the apps (my guess would be that's in framework.jar)
Currently it looks in /system/app, /data/app & /data/app-private there should not be any technical reason why it couldn't look in a forth directory. this way you can keep the imporant/most used apps in the flash and large/less used on the sdcard...

rj3005 said:
I think the best way would be to add paths in the program that actually searches/launches the apps (my guess would be that's in framework.jar)
Currently it looks in /system/app, /data/app & /data/app-private there should not be any technical reason why it couldn't look in a forth directory. this way you can keep the imporant/most used apps in the flash and large/less used on the sdcard...
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Well, you have to remember that the solution should work on stuff that we do not have source access to, like people wanting to use on ported ROMs or a rooted stock ROM.
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Again, this is the problem. A general technique suitable for XDA-type applications must require only root or changes to GPL code. You can't touch the framework, which can (and does) have proprietary branches.

packetlss said:
Well, you have to remember that the solution should work on stuff that we do not have source access to, like people wanting to use on ported ROMs or a rooted stock ROM.
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i would say that we have no choice but to implement it without considering those groups. however, i do suggest that we should make the implementation compatible, just that, on modded frameworks like cyan, it works to the fullest.

olearyp said:
unionfs
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Everything old is new again. Oh well.

olearyp said:
Everything old is new again. Oh well.
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Unionfs is not available for android devices without kernel sources.
Concerning ported rom, I am not sure the package installer get modified by vendors. So it may be possible to implement the changes done to aosp code using baksmali.
So my two cents are:
- modify AOSP sources to have android lookup at /sd/app for apps
- modify package installer to have it asks where to install apps
Sure the removing of sdcard problem is still there. I don't know how we can ever handle a straight manual remove of it. It implies big modifications to AOSP sources to have the system aware of missing applications that have existing home shortcuts or widgets, so it "hides" them until app is back...
Anyway we can start implementing the functionality and look after for that sdcard removal problem.

I've been thinking of doing this for a while, has any progress been made?
I like the idea of modifying pm to prompt for the install location, I was thinking of just writing an app to manage that (but probably would be a good idea to have both).
If progress has been made, great, if not, I may start a fork of CM5's vendor tree for this.

Lox_Dev said:
Unionfs is not available for android devices without kernel sources.
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Kernel sources are the one thing you most assuredly do have on all devices, at least if they're sold where copyright law can be enforced. No one needs to risk a lawsuit by intentionally violating GPL.

olearyp said:
Kernel sources are the one thing you most assuredly do have on all devices, at least if they're sold where copyright law can be enforced. No one needs to risk a lawsuit by intentionally violating GPL.
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Well.. it is not the case in real life.... For eg, acer Liquid kernel sources they acer provided is unusable.
Just a clue for aosp source modification:
services/java/com/android/server/PackageManagerService.java:frameworks/base/ Log.d(TAG, "Scanning app dir " + dir

[Q] Adding kernel modules to Z902

Okay so it took me a while to get my z902 to the point where i could begin messing around with system folders. I managed to do so by using Lubuntu and some other tools. I have several questions regaurding customizing the kernel image. In the end i would like to add support for sixaxis controllers via usb (hid-sony.ko) as well as modify the build.prop to get the device recognized as something with more apps in the app store. The last thing i want to accomplish is making the real sd card mount as read write as well as possibly giving the option to swap the internal sd card with usbhost0. my questions are...
1. since lubuntu runs independently from the android OS would i be able to modify the system files without the need to recompile and flash a recovery image..? I managed to make the nandd read write by reformatting the nandd and copying the files back to the partition. so in theory i should be able to add modules and instanciate them in init.rc.
2. I have modified the build.prop in attempts to open the play store by changing some things i changed on another device.(samsung galaxy tab 2 7 in.) The device is recognized as the Nexus S as i wanted in the about this device in settings. the play store opens and loads the initial first page. but as soon as i try to navigate anywhere within it stops workin and hangs. I believe that something in the build.prop is conficting the changes causing the play store to get confused and give up.
3. going back to question 1. I was wondering if anyone knows if extracting a custom rom image onto the nandd via lubuntu would be possible. as i know there are several roms out for the mk802 II (supposably identicle but i speculate a few diffences.) which have already exploited the ability to use ps3 controllers bluetooth dongles as well as usb ethernet adapters.
Im really looking forward to making this device into a gaming console as i have managed to get quite alot accomplished with it already before i got it read write. i found that quite a few games that would be thought to not run on this device actually do. using sideloaded apks i managed to install and run quite a few high end gameloft games as well as other open gl dependent games. some run better than others but i see alot of potential and wish to develope this device to better working order. any help with these problems would be greatly apreciated as im not a pro but def a fast learner.
I would also like to thank Rodrigolopezguerra for helping me figure out how to get this device to read write status. i ran into quite a few problems but In the end his guide helped me quite a bit.

[GUIDE][TOOL] Dreamtab increase internal storage

Summary
Uses an external micro sd as "internal storage". Accomplished by a ramdisk edit to the boot image. The bootloader must be unlocked to use this tool and unlocking the bootloader will erase all personal data, game saves, etc on your device. For devices that already have their bootloader unlocked there is an option to transfer the current data to the external microsd card.
Considerations
-The bootloader needs to be unlocked. The unlocking procedure erases all data on the device. If games saves, etc, are important use a tool that can back them up first.
-If you already have an unlocked bootloader the script allows you to transfer the data over and it should be like nothing ever happened but an increase in space. However, scripts are not perfect, nor can I take in to account every situation that might arise. If you have an unlocked bootloader and your data is important, please, please, please make a backup before trying this script.
-Micro SD card quality. All data will be read and written to the micro sd card. Not all cards are created the same. Many have very poor write performance, especially 4K writes. I tested about 6 or 7 cards and found the Samsung EVO+ as the best performing card. I didn't test the SanDisk extreme but it will likely be good as well. Increasing the size available is of no use if the speed is terrible and the tablet is laggy.
-Drivers. You must have fastboot and ADB drivers already set up and ready to go. The drivers are always a pain because so many different computers have different setups, previous drivers installed, conflicting drivers, etc. I attached the NabiLab2017 drivers to the post, even they can be buggy but provided an option if you choose. More about driver setup can be found here https://forum.xda-developers.com/nabi-2/general/nabi-information-t3229119
Procedure
ONLY FOR NVIDIA NV08B
Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aka8nUu7qQY
Video with data transfer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbxqtzV33jI
ADB and fastboot drivers setup and tested
Micro SD card you want to use installed
Device connected and booted to Android
Unzip and run convert.bat
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Thanks (again) @aicjofs for all the work you continue to do on these Nabi Dreamtab HD8s. TWRP, fsck fixes, stock 137 TWRP backups, and now this (which cures my biggest gripe about these tablets).
My kids are rough on them, but, because of the work you do, I've been able to keep them going & they grow with my kids. I just picked up 2 more refurbs from eBay today for $50 each. I'll be applying this internal storage fix as soon as they arrive.
I'm a Linux guy, not Windows. Would it help if I contributed a bash script that mimics your convert.bat? I'd have to assume that adb & fastboot are already installed & running, but I could probably script most of if from that point.

jvonhoff said:
Thanks (again) @aicjofs for all the work you continue to do on these Nabi Dreamtab HD8s. TWRP, fsck fixes, stock 137 TWRP backups, and now this (which cures my biggest gripe about these tablets).
My kids are rough on them, but, because of the work you do, I've been able to keep them going & they grow with my kids. I just picked up 2 more refurbs from eBay today for $50 each. I'll be applying this internal storage fix as soon as they arrive.
I'm a Linux guy, not Windows. Would it help if I contributed a bash script that mimics your convert.bat? I'd have to assume that adb & fastboot are already installed & running, but I could probably script most of if from that point.
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Absolutely contribute, I don't do this for fame or money, just try to help others. Any and all additions are always welcome.
It should be easy enough to convert as most of the magic happens on the tablet itself, I think I only pushed a couple files to the tablet and made the ramdisk changes on the tablet too to keep the file size down. Weird how TWRP, the kernel, the tablet itself is all done in Linux but I only make windows scripts/apps.
I have quite a few of these tablets too, 5 maybe?. Kind of weird because Fuhu/Nabi screwed up that fsck thing so many people dump the tablet for next to nothing because they seem like garbage and crash all the time with loss of all the kids data but they are really a solid tablet. Try and find a screen of the HD8 quality on a modern kids tablet for $50. Shame about the crappy source code, if I could have got the camera to work right in the kernel I think I would have pressed on with the lollipop ROM and instead lost interest. This mod though breathes a lot of life into it still though. I have 3 of these running the mod and the kids still use it all the time with 64GB cards as their main storage and have had no issues.

aicjofs said:
Any and all additions are always welcome.
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I've attached my attempt at a bash script for the swap. I got time to run one of my tablets through the gauntlet with this version, and only hit a snag at the check for fsck. Since I was that far, I just fixed the bug & applied the rest by hand. So, beware.
aicjofs said:
if I could have got the camera to work right in the kernel I think I would have pressed on with the lollipop ROM and instead lost interest.
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I hear you there. I was hoping to see you get Lollipop going (even w/o a camera), just to have the battery saver. But, Greenify does a pretty good job keeping the battery going a while. So, again, thank you, and let me know if this script needs fixing.

Thanks for the work on this tablet. I am trying to salvage our dreamtab with your method. Unfortunately, I have a card inserted but the convert.bat never gave me any information about the sdcard like it did for you in the youtube video. Any idea what I might be doing wrong?
Thanks again!

Can I get Sony's Remote Shares feature on a Custom rom?

Remote Shares is a must for me, I can't get by without it, "mounting" 5TB hard drives on android to access videos, books, magazines, backups, move stuff to and from my XZU with ease, just as if I was moving it inside the phone's storage, it was day to day stuff for me, I was happy with my KitKat stock rooted, but it started failing badly, had to move on, why not upgrade my system? but really didn't think custom ROMs (not based on sony stock) wouldn't have one of Sony's greatest features...
Can anyone with knowledge point me in the right direction?
What do I need to learn to be able to add this feature to my current rom (RR LP 5.5.9)? is it kernel related? add or edit some files in /system?, perhaps I can create some script in a shell to mount at boot? although I'd rather have Sony's original method with switches to mount or unmount at will, not a permanently mounted hdd.
Please help, I think this can be useful to more people.
I'm willing to give my time for this, just need to know where to start, but if possible without having to learn the whole Android OS...
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MX10 Android TV Box - SuperSU Issue

I recently purchased an MX10 Android TV Box running Android 7.1.2
It is supposed to be rooted and SuperSU came installed but when you run it, it reports that the SuperSU binary is not installed and SuperSU cannot install it. I've done a full factory reset but the image comes back broken like that.
I downloaded updated firmware for this box and the SuperSU zip file but I cannot get this box into recovery mode. Everything I've found says to stick a toothpick in the AV hole and power up the box. When I do that, the MX10 logo shows but then it pops up with "erasing" and then reboots. All that does is a full factory reset.
If I run Root Checker, it says I don't have root.
Anyone have any experience with this issue and this box? If I can't get into recovery mode then I can't fix SuperSU and/or update the firmware to one where I'm rooted.
The box otherwise seems to work ok with the exception that I cannot set a live wallpaper. I'm just not rooted.
Thanks for any help!
-TimG

TimothyGaray said:
I recently purchased an MX10 Android TV Box running Android 7.1.2
It is supposed to be rooted and SuperSU came installed but when you run it, it reports that the SuperSU binary is not installed and SuperSU cannot install it. I've done a full factory reset but the image comes back broken like that.
I downloaded updated firmware for this box and the SuperSU zip file but I cannot get this box into recovery mode. Everything I've found says to stick a toothpick in the AV hole and power up the box. When I do that, the MX10 logo shows but then it pops up with "erasing" and then reboots. All that does is a full factory reset.
If I run Root Checker, it says I don't have root.
Anyone have any experience with this issue and this box? If I can't get into recovery mode then I can't fix SuperSU and/or update the firmware to one where I'm rooted.
The box otherwise seems to work ok with the exception that I cannot set a live wallpaper. I'm just not rooted.
Thanks for any help!
-TimG
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Yeah i just got mine yesterday and im having the same issue. I get a Root user account error with Root Checker Pro. Ive tried clearing data in the SU app but nothing. There is an update for SU in the Play Store but i read on Freaktab where someone said not to update SU app or it will give you a bootloop. I havent updated it yet cuz i wanted to do some more investigating but i really dont see the harm in just updating the app itself. I know updating the su binary will result in a bootloop because i updated the binary on my T95Z and got the bootloop. Ive been googling all day trying to find a TWRP.img file for the MX10 but have found nothing yet. Ive also been looking for a root method for this box as well but not sure what i should use. It would be nice if these each box had it own sub forum like the phones have.. would make life so much easier. lol
If you figure anything out i would appreciate if you would pass that info on.. will do likewise.

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I'm in the same boat. Recieved my mx10 a week ago. Tried the tooth pick in the av port. Shows on screen 'erasing' and eventually factory defaults. No root

Android 7.01 said:
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I'm in the same boat. Recieved my mx10 a week ago. Tried the tooth pick in the av port. Shows on screen 'erasing' and eventually factory defaults. No root
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Have you updated the SU app? Not the su binary but the app from play store itself?

Hi, actually I was looking to root the MX10 but for a simple reason:
all I want to to is to get a shutdown or power off button, but this seems missing on the MX10 .. !!! First time I see a box without the shutdown option.
I looked up for apps providing power off button but they all require root access and so don’t work on the out-of-the-box MX10.
Anyone has same need and a solution?

Hi, I received my MX10, a few days ago and have the same problem (SuperSU issue).
I purchased it from GeekBuying, and posted on their blog, for the latest firmware update I could find: http://blog.geekbuying.com/2017/12/...r4-32gb-emmc-tv-box-firmware-update-20171214/
Really want to root it, so I can edit the keyboard/remote control files to map keys on the H18+ remote I bought at the same time as the MX10.
I haven't tried flashing different firmware (or booting into recovery). If/when I receive a reply to my post on the GeekBuying blog, I'll post here - but no idea if they'll reply.

supergiulio said:
Hi, actually I was looking to root the MX10 but for a simple reason:
all I want to to is to get a shutdown or power off button, but this seems missing on the MX10 .. !!! First time I see a box without the shutdown option.
I looked up for apps providing power off button but they all require root access and so don’t work on the out-of-the-box MX10.
Anyone has same need and a solution?
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Hey bud if you hold the power button down on the remote for about 5 seconds and it will bring the reboot menu up.. it has shut down and restart.
Do the same to boot up
Ok.. everyone else that was wondering about root.. looks like this is our answer.. no root.. no TWRP...... for now at least. This box is still fairly new so im
not giving up. It took 4-5 months for them to get root for Snapdragon S8 so who knows.. it may come for the MX10 one day too
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freak69ize said:
Hey bud if you hold the power button down on the remote for about 5 seconds and it will bring the reboot menu up.. it has shut down and restart.
Ok.. everyone else that was wondering about root.. looks like this is our answer.. no root.. no TWRP...... for now at least. This box is still fairly new so im
not giving up. It took 4-5 months for them to get root for Snapdragon S8 so who knows.. it may come for the MX10 one day too
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Seems really odd that it would come with Super SU installed, and not be rooted. Then again, it also advertises (on GeekBuying.com - in case anyone purchased elsewhere) that it comes with Kodi pre-installed, and mine didn't.
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TimothyGaray said:
...I downloaded updated firmware for this box and the SuperSU zip file...-TimG
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Whereabouts did you get the firmware? Was it this one MX10_RK3328_KODI18.0_20171208.img ? Listed on this GeekBuying blog entry: http://blog.geekbuying.com/2017/12/...r4-32gb-emmc-tv-box-firmware-update-20171214/

RADiuMOz said:
Seems really odd that it would come with Super SU installed, and not be rooted. Then again, it also advertises (on GeekBuying.com - in case anyone purchased elsewhere) that it comes with Kodi pre-installed, and mine didn't.
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Whereabouts did you get the firmware? Was it this one MX10_RK3328_KODI18.0_20171208.img ? Listed on this GeekBuying blog entry: http://blog.geekbuying.com/2017/12/...r4-32gb-emmc-tv-box-firmware-update-20171214/
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Yeah i agree.. odd it ships with su installed but no root. Theres some fw's on this page.... ive downloaded just in case i ever need it... dont see why i would since there is no root though. lol
http://freaktab.com/forum/tv-player...3328-4-32gb-tv-box-2-4ghz-wifi-fast-lan/page2

Hi mate,
Try my guide in the Media TV Box Amlogic forum. The recovery image is for TWRP. But you could try Philz or others. Worked on S912 and S905 so far fine.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/an...mlogic-s905x-s912x-faq-backup-switch-t3752897
No root? I suggest you follow backup instructions, take 3 backups - all paritions, boot only, recovery only.
Then you can extract the boot image from your backup and use that with Magisk to root your system. After Magisk modifies your boot image, reboot, and flash the modified package via TWRP bootable (see topic)
If you have anything you wish to contribute, please feel free to post anything you have learnt that you feel will help others.
Cheers mate!

Thanks for the tip
Thanks Freak69! It was so easy ... but still it would be good to root the MX10
freak69ize said:
Hey bud if you hold the power button down on the remote for about 5 seconds and it will bring the reboot menu up.. it has shut down and restart.
Do the same to boot up
Ok.. everyone else that was wondering about root.. looks like this is our answer.. no root.. no TWRP...... for now at least. This box is still fairly new so im
not giving up. It took 4-5 months for them to get root for Snapdragon S8 so who knows.. it may come for the MX10 one day too
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flipmode_11 said:
Hi mate,
Try my guide in the Media TV Box Amlogic forum. The recovery image is for TWRP. But you could try Philz or others. Worked on S912 and S905 so far fine.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/an...mlogic-s905x-s912x-faq-backup-switch-t3752897
No root? I suggest you follow backup instructions, take 3 backups - all paritions, boot only, recovery only.
Then you can extract the boot image from your backup and use that with Magisk to root your system. After Magisk modifies your boot image, reboot, and flash the modified package via TWRP bootable (see topic)
If you have anything you wish to contribute, please feel free to post anything you have learnt that you feel will help others.
Cheers mate!
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Hey @flipmode_11 - which TWRP image should we use, please? In your post, you state to, "Download the X96 Media Player TWRP Recovery image...or a different device". As the X96 is S905X (from a quick Google - don't shoot me if I'm wrong!) and the MX10 is RK3328, the TWRP image for the X96 wouldn't work, would it? I took a look at the list of devices and can't find a matching device.
Cheers,
Richard.
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Somethng that REALLY annoys me about the MX10, is that I can't get it to write to my external USB drive (NTFS). It worked just fine - out of the box - on my old MXIII-G, but the MX10 just won't write to it (Total Commander and an FTP server app I usually use in order to access it from my LAN). Is this because of some weird driver, or because of root (permissions... I checked under apps and it has access to storage - but of course it does, because it can read the drive)?
I'm probably not too fussed about rooting this thing, if I can just get external drives working with it.
I did read about Android not supporting NTFS, for write - but my old MXIII-G did, so I'm assuming this should, too. The only other thing I can think of, is that the MXIII-G had something in the firmware for writing to NTFS.
I can't see why there would be external USB drive support, but you can't write to it - I mean, it's a TV box, surely there are some other people out there who copy movies, etc. to an external drive on the box, to watch?

G'day mate,
Yeah look just give it a try and see how you go. Booting to this recovery.img will not make any modifications. It is simply loading an interface and relevant dependencies for it to run. I read something about how RockChip devices are limited or something. I forget now, but that made me steer clear of them, despite having more regular updates and new hardware. :/ hmmm
No, you won't find a matching device. It is shocking that these mass-manufacturered generic devices aren't also listed. I recommend you give the recovery.img in my topic a stab.
Where did you source you MX10 from? Have you asked them? Although, every single Chinese seller I have come across has zero working knowledge or which models are better, plus have 101 mistakes in their specs (just got a $50 and $100 refund on Ebay for X96 and a 10.1" tablet! Wrong specs!).
NTFS? So it can READ but not WRITE? Hmm I would wipe everything in FAT32 for Android. Everything is much happier. You could try exFAT which is a superior file system. Have you tried this? Got any other ExFAT + FAT32 devices? Hmm actually I think I've been down that path with exFAT (Paragon tools to solve). Double check exFAT compatibility before proceeding with backup/wipe/re-format. Actually I know the Nexus 6 was able to read NTFS storage as helped a mate with one. But depends on the manufacturer! But the Nexus6 couldn't write to HPFS - never tested exFAT. I think there is an app - USB Media Exporter...? USB Media Explorer..? - I forget!?!
As you mentioned Total Commander, you could try it with the Paragon tool plug-in: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.paragon.tcplugins_ntfs_ro -or- https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.paragon.mounter (not tried this, but images looks interesting - free!). I use Solid Explorer + Smart File Manager - never been a fan of TC... There are other methods out there, but they require Root, which will not help you! e.g. ChainFire's StickMount.
No, I think you should proceed. However, as per my topic, take a full backup of 3+ partitions prior to making changes. I had to revert to a backup on 20th as had 2x SED processes going nuts. Titanium backup'd all important stuff. Then rebooted to Micro SD TWRP and did 3 Partitions (leaving int. storage intact). So Rooting is essential. It really is. Plus using Magisk is even more important, as it does not make modifications to /System which makes life much easier upgrading/troubleshooting/debugging et al.
NOTE: I would infact backup all the data on that ext. drive, delete partitions and create 2 FAT32/EXFAT/NTFS for redundancy. I have had too many past issues with partitions getting corrupt on external drives.
1. Backup Boot partition, 2. Extract the backup and find the boot.img, 3. Install Magisk Manager, click Install and select option 2 and browse for the boot.img, 4. Flash updated /MagiskManager/boot.img via TWRP and you are rooted w/ Systemless SU and BusyBox. There is seriously nothing better than having Root and being Play "Certified". You won't look back! Plus you can always re-flash the stock Boot.img and do OTA manufacturer updates, then open Magisk Manager and repeat.
Mac is like that. You can only read NTFS drives, but read / write to stupid HFS/HPFS drives with Mac, unless you install something like Paragon to read NTFS. The same for Windows, can read HFS+ but read/write NTFS.
Every Android device, regardless of OS, is totally different. Different Kernel's, different builds, ...
Good luck and let me know how you go?
Cheers mate!
RADiuMOz said:
Hey @flipmode_11 - which TWRP image should we use, please? In your post, you state to, "Download the X96 Media Player TWRP Recovery image...or a different device". As the X96 is S905X (from a quick Google - don't shoot me if I'm wrong!) and the MX10 is RK3328, the TWRP image for the X96 wouldn't work, would it? I took a look at the list of devices and can't find a matching device.
Cheers,
Richard.
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Somethng that REALLY annoys me about the MX10, is that I can't get it to write to my external USB drive (NTFS). It worked just fine on my old MXIII-G, but the MX10 just won't write to it (Total Commander and an FTP server app I usually use in order to access it from my LAN). Is this because of some weird driver, or because of root (permissions... I checked under apps and it has access to storage - but of course it does, because it can read the drive)?
I'm probably not too fussed about rooting this thing, if I can just get external drives working with it.
I did read about Android not supporting NTFS, for write - but my old MXIII-G did, so I'm assuming this should, too. The only other thing I can think of, is that the MXIII-G had something in the firmware for writing to NTFS.
I can't see why there would be external USB drive support, but you can't write to it - I mean, it's a TV box, surely there are some other people out there who copy movies, etc. to an external drive on the box, to watch?
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Post redundant.

flipmode_11 said:
Did you see my questions?
Where did you source your device from? Ebay? Online? Retail?
What software and steps above did you try?
Did you try the Paragon app with Total Commander?
Did you try downloading the recovery.img linked in the Media TV Box category? https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=75644464
Using Magisk is even more important these days as developers attempt to detect SU/Root, plus Magisk does not make modifications to your /System partition which makes life MUCH easier upgrading / troubleshooting / debugging and allows you to mask Root/SuperUser to then use all apps (Spotify, Play, Netflix, Stan, et al.)
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I got my box from Amazon. Ive not tried anything with it yet. I dont use Total Commander.. that was another guy saying something about it and wanting to be able to write to external sd... i could care less for that. I want root for adaway and a few other things. Im using Blockada right now to block ads but i cant use it and Expressvpn at the same time.. so my choices are either block ads or run vpn to be anonymous.. cant do both because you cant run two vpns at the same time in android and blockada's vpn is not the same kind of vpn.
Ok i just read your thread.. i will give it a try sometime this weekend maybe.
Ya know the weird thing is is that DevCheck says i have root and busybox installed. Su app is there but say su binaries arent installed. I dont get why this box is shipped like this. lol

You are funny! I was talking to @RADiuMOz - I had quoted him.
No wonder your reply made no sense. Then my reply made no sense.
Please see my topic on AMLogic devices "AMLogic S905 S912 FAQ ✰ Fix Root, Switch SU, Backup/Restore etc ✩ Media Player TV Box" here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/an...mlogic-s905x-s912x-faq-backup-switch-t3752897
I would suggest you follow the steps to Backup first as it does not make any changes to your system.
Then follow steps to Root (download 3 files) and proceed with the FAQ I have written on how to root and which of the 3 methods suit you (probably the one similar to Part 1 of the backup, plus flashing the ZIP.
I had similar corrupt Root issue where SU and SUD were present, but didn't appear to have permissions. Some apps reported Root OK, and others No Root.
Anyway, let me know how you go. I have documented how to un-root / clean-up and then to re-root your system (i.e. Corrupt Root). Reply there.
Cheers!
p.s. May I suggest you check out AdGuard instead of AdAway? It lets you subscribe to block lists, plus you can set-up DUAL VPN's with it (read their KB/FAQ's). AdGuard's menu's allows you to accomodate both being able to VPN and run adblocking at the same time - ROOT Free. So you can probably ignore everything I have even said! LOL (AdGuard > Left Menu > Settings > Proxy Settings)
VyprVPN is far better and I suggest you try them when they have a promo. You can enable an option to block malicious servers, etc. But no way of managing this and adding adverts. Anyway, I switched and tried various VPN providers and found VyprVPN far better, plus offer a higher level of OpenVPN encryption which is not blocked or detected by 3rd parties called "Chameleon".
freak69ize said:
I got my box from Amazon. I want root for AdAway and a few other things. Im using Blockada right now to block ads but i cant use it and ExpressVPN at the same time.. so my choices are either block ads or run vpn to be anonymous.. cant do both because you cant run two vpns at the same time in android and blockada's vpn is not the same kind of vpn.
Ok i just read your thread.. i will give it a try sometime this weekend maybe.
Ya know the weird thing is is that DevCheck says i have root and busybox installed. Su app is there but say su binaries arent installed. I dont get why this box is shipped like this. lol
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EXPERIMENT: Has anyone tried an OTG adapter in the USB-C slot for a Galaxy S8? Then connect a small USB drive with a recovery.img only, formatted in FAT32? You could even try placing the recovery.img on your Micro SD inside your phone...? Perhaps while holding down menu + up or menu + down, switch on your phone, and it might read the recovery.img on the external memory and boot into that?
*Anyway*, try the same thing in your MX10 and report back add success. Use a compatible S905 TWRP recovery.img (see my type here with download attached and tested with S905x Devices.
Hmm... So many ideas... so many things I have not tried!
freak69ize said:
Hey bud if you hold the power button down on the remote for about 5 seconds and it will bring the reboot menu up.. it has shut down and restart. Do the same to boot up
Ok.. everyone else that was wondering about root.. looks like this is our answer.. no root.. no TWRP...... for now at least. This box is still fairly new so im not giving up. It took 4-5 months for them to get root for Snapdragon S8 so who knows.. it may come for the MX10 one day too
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flipmode_11 said:
G'day mate,
Yeah look just give it a try and see how you go. Booting to this recovery.img will not make any modifications. It is simply loading an interface and relevant dependencies for it to run. I read something about how RockChip devices are limited or something. I forget now, but that made me steer clear of them, despite having more regular updates and new hardware. :/ hmmm
No, you won't find a matching device. It is shocking that these mass-manufacturered generic devices aren't also listed. I recommend you give the recovery.img in my topic a stab.
Where did you source you MX10 from? Have you asked them? Although, every single Chinese seller I have come across has zero working knowledge or which models are better, plus have 101 mistakes in their specs (just got a $50 and $100 refund on Ebay for X96 and a 10.1" tablet! Wrong specs!).
NTFS? So it can READ but not WRITE? Hmm I would wipe everything in FAT32 for Android. Everything is much happier. You could try exFAT which is a superior file system. Have you tried this? Got any other ExFAT + FAT32 devices? Hmm actually I think I've been down that path with exFAT (Paragon tools to solve). Double check exFAT compatibility before proceeding with backup/wipe/re-format. Actually I know the Nexus 6 was able to read NTFS storage as helped a mate with one. But depends on the manufacturer! But the Nexus6 couldn't write to HPFS - never tested exFAT. I think there is an app - USB Media Exporter...? USB Media Explorer..? - I forget!?!
As you mentioned Total Commander, you could try it with the Paragon tool plug-in: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.paragon.tcplugins_ntfs_ro -or- https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.paragon.mounter (not tried this, but images looks interesting - free!). I use Solid Explorer + Smart File Manager - never been a fan of TC... There are other methods out there, but they require Root, which will not help you! e.g. ChainFire's StickMount.
No, I think you should proceed. However, as per my topic, take a full backup of 3+ partitions prior to making changes. I had to revert to a backup on 20th as had 2x SED processes going nuts. Titanium backup'd all important stuff. Then rebooted to Micro SD TWRP and did 3 Partitions (leaving int. storage intact). So Rooting is essential. It really is. Plus using Magisk is even more important, as it does not make modifications to /System which makes life much easier upgrading/troubleshooting/debugging et al.
NOTE: I would infact backup all the data on that ext. drive, delete partitions and create 2 FAT32/EXFAT/NTFS for redundancy. I have had too many past issues with partitions getting corrupt on external drives.
1. Backup Boot partition, 2. Extract the backup and find the boot.img, 3. Install Magisk Manager, click Install and select option 2 and browse for the boot.img, 4. Flash updated /MagiskManager/boot.img via TWRP and you are rooted w/ Systemless SU and BusyBox. There is seriously nothing better than having Root and being Play "Certified". You won't look back! Plus you can always re-flash the stock Boot.img and do OTA manufacturer updates, then open Magisk Manager and repeat.
Mac is like that. You can only read NTFS drives, but read / write to stupid HFS/HPFS drives with Mac, unless you install something like Paragon to read NTFS. The same for Windows, can read HFS+ but read/write NTFS.
Every Android device, regardless of OS, is totally different. Different Kernel's, different builds, ...
Good luck and let me know how you go?
Cheers mate!
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First up - sorry mate - I actually thought I'd replied to your post, but clearly either didn't submit it, or just dreamed the whole thing.
I have to wait for free time at the weekends (I have kids), but I'll go back to your topic and give that a go.
As for NTFS, etc. I ended up buying a Synology DS218J NAS box as I want my daughter to be able to back up her MacBook to it, as well as probably back up some of my stuff to it as well - and of course then use for the MX10. I bought it from GeekBuying, and they're not that particularly helpful. Not intentionally unhelpful, though.
My MXIII-G was great for just working straight out of the box, with the external NTFS drive (exact same drive).
So now, as for rooting, my only reason will be so I can remap some of the keys on my remote - but don't absolutely have to do that. But I'll do backups anyway, so that I'm ready for if/when any firmware updates come out.
I'll certainly know to have a MUCH better look round, before buying my next Android TV box, though - that's for sure. I did a quick search, but didn't find anything on a user level - but also didn't search XDA: just did a regular Google search.
Thanks for your detailed reply, as I know it takes time and thought on your part - it's much appreciated. As soon as I've got something to report, I'll post in the same thread, so other people can perhaps benefit from my findings.
Cheers,
Richard.
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flipmode_11 said:
G'day mate,
Yeah look just give it a try and see how you go. Booting to this recovery.img will not make any modifications. It is simply loading an interface and relevant dependencies for it to run. I read something about how RockChip devices are limited or something. I forget now, but that made me steer clear of them, despite having more regular updates and new hardware. :/ hmmm
No, you won't find a matching device. It is shocking that these mass-manufacturered generic devices aren't also listed. I recommend you give the recovery.img in my topic a stab.
Where did you source you MX10 from? Have you asked them? Although, every single Chinese seller I have come across has zero working knowledge or which models are better, plus have 101 mistakes in their specs (just got a $50 and $100 refund on Ebay for X96 and a 10.1" tablet! Wrong specs!).
NTFS? So it can READ but not WRITE? Hmm I would wipe everything in FAT32 for Android. Everything is much happier. You could try exFAT which is a superior file system. Have you tried this? Got any other ExFAT + FAT32 devices? Hmm actually I think I've been down that path with exFAT (Paragon tools to solve). Double check exFAT compatibility before proceeding with backup/wipe/re-format. Actually I know the Nexus 6 was able to read NTFS storage as helped a mate with one. But depends on the manufacturer! But the Nexus6 couldn't write to HPFS - never tested exFAT. I think there is an app - USB Media Exporter...? USB Media Explorer..? - I forget!?!
As you mentioned Total Commander, you could try it with the Paragon tool plug-in: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.paragon.tcplugins_ntfs_ro -or- https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.paragon.mounter (not tried this, but images looks interesting - free!). I use Solid Explorer + Smart File Manager - never been a fan of TC... There are other methods out there, but they require Root, which will not help you! e.g. ChainFire's StickMount.
No, I think you should proceed. However, as per my topic, take a full backup of 3+ partitions prior to making changes. I had to revert to a backup on 20th as had 2x SED processes going nuts. Titanium backup'd all important stuff. Then rebooted to Micro SD TWRP and did 3 Partitions (leaving int. storage intact). So Rooting is essential. It really is. Plus using Magisk is even more important, as it does not make modifications to /System which makes life much easier upgrading/troubleshooting/debugging et al.
NOTE: I would infact backup all the data on that ext. drive, delete partitions and create 2 FAT32/EXFAT/NTFS for redundancy. I have had too many past issues with partitions getting corrupt on external drives.
1. Backup Boot partition, 2. Extract the backup and find the boot.img, 3. Install Magisk Manager, click Install and select option 2 and browse for the boot.img, 4. Flash updated /MagiskManager/boot.img via TWRP and you are rooted w/ Systemless SU and BusyBox. There is seriously nothing better than having Root and being Play "Certified". You won't look back! Plus you can always re-flash the stock Boot.img and do OTA manufacturer updates, then open Magisk Manager and repeat.
Mac is like that. You can only read NTFS drives, but read / write to stupid HFS/HPFS drives with Mac, unless you install something like Paragon to read NTFS. The same for Windows, can read HFS+ but read/write NTFS.
Every Android device, regardless of OS, is totally different. Different Kernel's, different builds, ...
Good luck and let me know how you go?
Cheers mate!
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Apologies! I thought I'd replied, here, but clearly didn't submit it, or just dreamed I had. I've replied to your PM, but also for anyone/everyone else's benefit (and in brief), I bought my MX10 from GeekBuying. I just bought a NAS box, so I'm going to use that instead of trying to get NTFS working, although the people at GeekBuying said, "Our factory tests show that the MX10 can read and write ntfs hard drives. So please try again." I'd be interested to hear whether anyone else is able to write to NTFS.
I'm going to go back to your topic, and give that a go - and will then post back here, to let everyone know (hopefully might benefit someone).
Cheers,
Richard.

i have mx10 and it suddenly stuck in start logo when i open,i dont have any idea please help.
i try to factory reset using toothpick and hit the factory reset no command coming out to delete all files and quick return to booth the system.
whwn i try to reboot again stuck in start logo i'll wait for 30 min but still just rounding the startup logo.Please help me...

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