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Hi guys. I know that here might be some similar topics, but i want all relevant answers in one place.
Past few weeks (month) i did some research on which android phone to buy.
I gotta say that my budget was fairly limited. 200 EUROS is absolute PEAK - i simply don't have more money for new phone right now.
After some discussions with guys via czech androidforum.cz i was encrouraged to take closer look at LGOO and ZTE Blade.
I would buy Blade right now, but... but then i realized that i would root it and give that CM7 of course, but.. in that case there is higher risk that phine gets bricked - these ZTE phones is very hard to REPAIR in our country because REPAIR CENTRE - ZTE for Czech Republic doesn't offer good service and lacks support. The other thing that discouraged me from buying Blade is its weak battery.
So finally i decided to buy LGoo - i didn't buy it yet - i am about to buy it (in a week). Why i wanna buy this one? I like its battery capacity, unofficial ROMs support and other good things. It simply looks as good android based phone.
My las question is: Are there other phones in this price category that i might have overlooked?
Well, i own one as well, i can tell its not bad phone, battery life 2 to 3 days based on how much you use it (one day if you use it a lot - like almost all day ).
Default rom is kind of fail. I dont understand how can they sell it with that laggy launcher. I use launcher pro.
All in all there is not much choice in your prize limit, i was in the same situation
I was thinking also about some samsung galaxy phones or SE xperia x10.
Custom roms are great. I used stock for a long time, few days ago I began testing all custom roms i found
With Neocore benchmark it almost doubled score (from 34-37FPS to 54-57FPS stock clock or 61FPS with OC) using CyanogenMod port by mik_os.
Hey devs,
for about 3 weeks I have been a proud owner of the RMN2 Prime until yesterday, when it suddenly turned off and died.
When I got the phone I started skinning it down with jaik's custom boot image and also cleaned it from unused apps. So far so good.
Now, some days ago I decided to switch over to danielpinto's CM12.1 , which is really awesome compared to MIUI. No problems either.
I also installed Greenify and Disable services to get rid of some battery hogs.
Yesterday, I was out of home whole day, had minimal standby battery drain, but really massive battery drop when recording a video (~50% to 25% in about 2min).
Put it in my pocket, and 10 min later it didn't turn on again. I thought it would be the battery, but apparently it's bricked. No charge LED, no PC recognition, nothing...
I tried to unbrick it via SP tool and some really unconvenient tutorials, but nothing worked. I guess I installed all needed drivers now, but SP tool doesn't show any reaction in the progress bar (the coloured bar at the bottom...I don't get ANY colour, nothing starts when I click the download button).
What to do?
The RMN2 is a pretty good phone IMO, but now also my first bricked one. I would be extremly graceful if some experienced xda devs could help me with this as I'm really desperated.
I'm from Europe and ordering a new one (if I'd need to) would take some weeks from now.
If so, have you any suggestions on which device might be a better choice? It should be in the same price range though.
Thanks for reading!
Best regards
If it is broken.... I guess new phone can be redmi note 3 pro.
Only thing I can think of is trying with a new battery.. (something must be wrong with it if it drained that quickly).
Thanks for your replies!
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Only thing I can think of is trying with a new battery.. (something must be wrong with it if it drained that quickly).
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Well, after I used the camera the drain was normal again and stayed at 27%. I also removed the battery and directly powered it from my powerbank, but it never turned on or vibrated...and no LED...
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If it is broken.... I guess new phone can be redmi note 3 pro.
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The extra features of the 3 pro are not really attractive for me. I've found the Elephone P9000 Lite today and I think this might be great alternative. Or I give the RMN2 another chance. Not sure on this yet...
sierrabravo6 said:
Thanks for your replies!
Well, after I used the camera the drain was normal again and stayed at 27%. I also removed the battery and directly powered it from my powerbank, but it never turned on or vibrated...and no LED...
The extra features of the 3 pro are not really attractive for me. I've found the Elephone P9000 Lite today and I think this might be great alternative. Or I give the RMN2 another chance. Not sure on this yet...
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Wouldn't it be less costly to first spend 10$ on a new battery before buying a new phone? In regards to a new phone, I'd chose a Snapdragon 650 powered RN3 w/ a 4k mAh battery over the Elephone P9000 Lite any day of the week. My brother has one and it's an amazing phone. Of course it all depends of what you find important in a phone. What makes you go for the Elephone?
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Wouldn't it be less costly to first spend 10$ on a new battery before buying a new phone? In regards to a new phone, I'd chose a Snapdragon 650 powered RN3 w/ a 4k mAh battery over the Elephone P9000 Lite any day of the week. My brother has one and it's an amazing phone. Of course it all depends of what you find important in a phone. What makes you go for the Elephone?
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Really appreciate your thoughts, man!
If I could be sure that it was a battery problem I would of course buy a new one. But it really appears to be a hard brick (I tested it with the battery removed and the phone directly plugged to the charger -> no LED, no reaction) Also the PC can't recognise it anymore.
The RN3 might surely be a nice phone, but for me the fingerprint, slithly faster performance and the battery are not worth 60€ more.
I just stumbled over the P9000 Lite yesterday and it seems to have everything the RN2 has + more RAM, LTE band 20 and Marshmallow. Negative is the small xda community for it...
And today I just found Ulefone! Geez, almost the same company name, but whole different stuff...there are way too many china phones out there!
The Elephone is down for a Ulefone Power or Ulefone Vienna.
Any thoughts?
Btw FYI, my preferences would be:
- at least 3000mAH
- 5.5 inch FHD
- Android 6 (or via update) + maybe chance for N if it's not asked too much
- at least 2Gb RAM, processor level of RN2 would be sufficient
- I don't care about the camera quality at all
- less than ~180€
Does the phone vibrate when you plug it to the charger without the battery?
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Does the phone vibrate when you plug it to the charger without the battery?
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Nope
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Where did you buy your phone? Maybe it's still in warranty and maybe they will fix it for free,spending some $ to fix the rn2 is more convenient
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Where did you buy your phone? Maybe it's still in warranty and maybe they will fix it for free,spending some $ to fix the rn2 is more convenient
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I got it from Gearbest and it's still in their 45 days warranty. I'll probably try to ask for a refund and order a new RN2.
Sending it back, fixing it, then sending it back to me would last monthes...
So I'll order a new one today or tomorrow, I'm just undecided between Ulefone Power or RN2.
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Really appreciate your thoughts, man!
If I could be sure that it was a battery problem I would of course buy a new one. But it really appears to be a hard brick (I tested it with the battery removed and the phone directly plugged to the charger -> no LED, no reaction) Also the PC can't recognise it anymore.
The RN3 might surely be a nice phone, but for me the fingerprint, slithly faster performance and the battery are not worth 60€ more.
I just stumbled over the P9000 Lite yesterday and it seems to have everything the RN2 has + more RAM, LTE band 20 and Marshmallow. Negative is the small xda community for it...
And today I just found Ulefone! Geez, almost the same company name, but whole different stuff...there are way too many china phones out there!
The Elephone is down for a Ulefone Power or Ulefone Vienna.
Any thoughts?
Btw FYI, my preferences would be:
- at least 3000mAH
- 5.5 inch FHD
- Android 6 (or via update) + maybe chance for N if it's not asked too much
- at least 2Gb RAM, processor level of RN2 would be sufficient
- I don't care about the camera quality at all
- less than ~180€
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Djeeeeeeeeeeeez thx a lot!! You've made me look at that Elephone P9000 Lite, then at that Ulefone Power (looks awesome w/ wooden back!) and now i'm considering passing on my RN2 to a family member and going on a spending spree (again) I wouldn't personally go for the Ulefone Power because of it's less than great MT6753 processor, 16GB (only) storage and Ulefone's custom ROM (planned upgrade to MM, but yeah don't think it'll get N).
I'm actually moving to China in a couple of weeks and one of the first things I'll do when I get there is go have a look at the Umi Super. Check out these specs:
- SHARP 2.5D 5.5 FHD display (Gorilla glass 3)
- Mediatek P10 (MT6755) @ 2.0GHz
- SAMSUNG 32GB eMMC 5.1 ROM
- SAMSUNG LPDDR3 4GB RAM
- SONY 4000 mAh battery
- PANASONIC 13MP dual flash camera
- TYPE-C USB / SD card up to 256GB / Fingerprint sensor / Dual SIM (shared 2nd slot w/ SD)
And when you thought it couldn't get any better, it comes with stock Android 6.0 (yes you've read that right!! it's a Nexus!!!!! ) and Umi offers a ROM flashing tool (Rootjoy) on their website and the tool allows you to flash a MIUI, VIBE, EMUI or LEWA ROM, made for the Super, to the phone
That is one hell of a crazy phone! Now I know in your requirements it says "less than 180e" and there is a time limited offer on Umi's homepage to get it for 179.99$ (not sure about shipping fees). Anyway, I'm gonna get it even if I need to shell the normal 249.99$ price for it (it's more than worth it if you look at the top class components they've chosen for the Super). So screw the idea of repairing your RN2, throw it in the bin (or put it up on eBay) and get that unibody aluminium one
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Djeeeeeeeeeeeez thx a lot!! You've made me look at that Elephone P9000 Lite....
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Damn it, now there are 3 devices to choose from
The RN2 has a strong community, but bad battery..
the Ulefone Power has...ehm...power and MM, but is unhandy and has no community..
and the UMI Super sounds awesome, but has even less community and it will take monthes til it would be here with me!
Do you have a link to the 180 bucks offer? found it
And are you in anyway paid by UMI by chance?
EDIT: Ok, somehow got hooked by the Super Now the only question is where to get it fast and cheap
I can't stand getting along with my old Lg L7 for so long!
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And are you in anyway paid by UMI by chance?
EDIT: Ok, somehow got hooked by the Super Now the only question is where to get it fast and cheap
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Not in any way., I only found out about Umi at 2am last night when I was still looking at the newer China phones xD You can go on their website and click on the Super promo on the homepage (Snap now) and it will show you all the supported resellers (Gearbest and alike + 1 shop on Aliexpress/eBay). The Aliexpress shop (Deal Home) seems to be the only one having stock already (there's a certificate signed by a Umi representative stating that Deal Home has the First launch exclusivity) and all the other shops won't be sending anything out before June 20th. I've taken a look at their flash sale system. First, you need to register for the coupon (which they mail every Wednesday to the lucky first ones) and then you need to wait on a flash sale day (there was one on May 23rd and the next one, which we'll miss obviously, is on May 31th). Only on those days, and at the following hours: 00:00, 03:00, 06:00, 18:00 and 21:00, can you get one for 179$. The 179$ phones will be shipped out after 7 days according to the shop. So this system 1) scks and 2) is not as speedy as we like.
But there's a second option. You can buy it in a presale (right now) w/o the flash sale crap for 219.99$ on Deal Home (there's a 10$ seller discount as well) and according to them, those phones get shipped out "24~48h after test well". Thing is, I'm not sure how true that all is since in the shipping option, it mentions "ships out within 28 business days" (but that might be a default aliexpress thing). I'd just contact the shop and ask how quickly you can get it (or the item is being shipped out) if you take the 209.99$ one. They have 81 gray ones and 97 golden ones left.
It is true that the dev community is pretty small, but how much of it do you need if they offer a stock ROM by default (w/ possibility of root, xposed, etc.) and many alternative ROMS as an option? The only thing they might not do (but that's the same for every other Android vendor) is to offer an upgrade to Android N. I checked their forum a bit and at least they're being honest and clear about it when and why one of their devices isn't being updated to a new Android version.
I just had a first look at the sellers today and at the moment they all sell them for about 190€ - 200€, which is still okay for me (especially compared to the RN3). That is efox, tomtop, Banggood and Gearbest. Aliexpress' Deal Home unfortunately doesn't ship to my country. But I saw that Gearbest also has this kind of flash sale on special days of the week.
They all seem to deliver from mid to end of June plus the shipping time itself. So it will be here in mid July at the earliest...
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The only thing they might not do (but that's the same for every other Android vendor) is to offer an upgrade to Android N. I checked their forum a bit and at least they're being honest and clear about it when and why one of their devices isn't being updated to a new Android version.
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I was quite happy to see this.
sierrabravo6 said:
I just had a first look at the sellers today and at the moment they all sell them for about 190€ - 200€, which is still okay for me (especially compared to the RN3). That is efox, tomtop, Banggood and Gearbest. Aliexpress' Deal Home unfortunately doesn't ship to my country. But I saw that Gearbest also has this kind of flash sale on special days of the week.
They all seem to deliver from mid to end of June plus the shipping time itself. So it will be here in mid July at the earliest...
Ah the major downside of importing phones from China .. it takes forever to get them (unless you pay an extra 35$ for a DHL <8 days delivery).
I was quite happy to see this.
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Awesome. That seals the deal for me
Btw, this is Umi's official shop on Aliexpress. You can get the super deal and flash deal for their device right there. There's even 1 super deal phone in stock but unfortunately it's a gold one.
Maybe this could help, but is in spanish http://www.movilesdualsim.com/index.php?threads/117528/
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jmora99 said:
Maybe this could help, but is in spanish http://www.movilesdualsim.com/index.php?threads/117528/
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Sorry for the delayed response and thank you for your tip! Actually I tried the exact same tutorial (in english language) before, but to no success.
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In the meantime I ordered the UMI Super for 164€. I'm really excited, but have to wait until July at least, as it will be shipped from 25th June at the earliest -.-
And now I'm already wondering if I should send the Super right back to GearBest and buy a Vernee Apollo Lite.
I thought the Super would be the best of the best for this price atm, but when you see the Apollo Lite....
- Helio X20 Deca core (Antutu >90000)
- IGZO display that seems to be really power efficient
- better camera with better focus
and Vernee is said to get a lot of hours out of a 3000mAH battery. While the 4000mAH of the Umi might not hold what they promise...
I'm not really into the fastest processor available as you won't feel a big differnece in daily use anyway, but it still seems to be a better package overall.
Price ~200€, ~230$ pre-sale
I ordered aswell they working on the battery like the last update. Waiting for root =(
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Little update and a question:
I'm currently pretty happy with the UMI Super. All I wish for is DTTW and a Wifi fix, but all in all a really decent device for that price.
Regarding the RMN 2:
It's a real shame that I cant revive it...so dead...yet so beautiful
I disassembled it and tried the test point method as a last resort, but I can't identify the test points.
Anyone knows where they are?
I googled, but to no avail...
Thanks everyone!
All discussions about buying new phone or advise not to upgrade goes in this thread.
Personally, I wouldn't mind keeping the G2 but I will need to replace the battery on mine if I shall keep using it. Normal since I've had the phone for 2 years now.
I got the phone for almost 3 years now, never changed the battery - always charging with LG's charger and having nice battery life [CM and Stock, whatever you prefer]
I don't see any good reason to move on, nothing has dramatically changed yet. Fingerprint? Wireless charging?
So I think we can stick to our good old G2 for a bit more...
My G2 has 3 years already and is perfect. I picked it up already used and still have nice battery life, around 5 to 7 hours of SOT. I'm on my second G2, this one with 32GB of internal memory and I don't see any good reason to spend a lot of money that I don't have on a new device that doesn't add that much. I plan to keep my G2 for like one year or more. Don't really feel changing it anytime soon.
Would be nice to have a really functionality MM rom. I tested most roms, but the camera and sound are bad. The smoothness of the custom Roms are very good. So what to do? I think the Rom development stocks. I have to stay on stock Rom to have all working fine. But in future I see apps not working or very laggy working with the "old" LP Rom. So my experience in the past with my tab.
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3 years here too. Not gonna make it much longer, the digitizer is going bad on the bottom left. Looking at the Pixel, but want to wait to make sure there are no manufacturing issues (like exploding) before I take the plunge. I have a Nexus 9, I'm not too confident in HTC's build quality after the problems I've had with it.
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3 years here too. Not gonna make it much longer, the digitizer is going bad on the bottom left. Looking at the Pixel, but want to wait to make sure there are no manufacturing issues (like exploding) before I take the plunge. I have a Nexus 9, I'm not to confident in HTC's build quality after the problems I've had with it.
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Same thought.
I have g2 from 1 year. I have the 16 gb variant. I must tell that maybe i need less lags, a microsd slot and a lot of more battery... But i must keep it for another year, i can't change it.
I'm thinking in get another phone just because 16gb isn't enough anymore.
If I could find some hack to expand this 16gb internal storage, I would do it.
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I don't see any good reason to move on, nothing has dramatically changed yet. Fingerprint? Wireless charging?
So I think we can stick to our good old G2 for a bit more...
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Thats so true, realy no need for any new phone now, everything still works fluently.
Too bad Dorimanx and others already quit g2 developement and not much new developers
Second G2 here, the 32GB variety, I swapped out my first G2(16Gb) to the G3 hoping for all that upgrade coolness - nope, then the OnePlus1 - cheaper than the G3 etc, but the size started to bother me. So, I went back to the G2, I still have the 16GB first one which was battered close to death by my resident teenager so I picked up the second one very cheaply and would not swap it for anything. To my eyes and hands nothing made after it looks or handles much better, the G2 still has one of the best screen-to-size ratios - my favourite thing about it! I'm Running OrionOS MM, getting up to 5 hours screen time, LGCamera from the Playstore does a fair job of replacing the stock one, it even does 1080p @ 60fps. Of late the headphone socket has started acting up a bit .. off to Ebay for another 32Gb model, don't mind if I do!
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Of late the headphone socket has started acting up a bit .. off to Ebay for another 32Gb model, don't mind if I do!
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Same here, im thinking to maybe invest in some wireless headphones but then again, having to charge headphones almost daily may just make things even more annoying
Anyone who (upgraded) from G2 to OnePlus 3 with any thoughts about how the two devices compare?
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Anyone who (upgraded) from G2 to OnePlus 3 with any thoughts about how the two devices compare?
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No Oneplus 3 yet, I have this phone:
- G2 D802(32gb) bought new since 2013 I think
- G Pro2 32gb F350L, this device just similar to G2 but 5.9 inch screen, 3gb ram+sd card and much better sound from my experience.
- Htc one M8 32gb, this phone screen/speaker is good and performance is all right and reliable.
I have ordered Lg G4 (F500) it's coming in few days, so I will try it.
They are not new devices but with root and custom rom they still work quite good for me.
I think now you can get really good phone for $250-$400 with Xiaomi Mi5/5s, LeEco Pro2/3, Zuk Z2/Pro, Oneplus 3, Lg G5 so many choices. For speed I seen reviews Oneplus 3 is top dog, with new Huawei Honor8 5.2inch is good too if you like small phone.
For good multimedia/audio experience maybe Lenovo Vibe X3 cost less than ZTE Axzon 7 in my opinion.
by next year, our beloved G2 will have android nougat that too stable version , thanks to developers working all day and night.
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by next year, our beloved G2 will have android nougat that too stable version , thanks to developers working all day and night.
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We already have Nougat, some more stable than others AICP,CRdroid etc
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We already have Nougat, some more stable than others AICP,CRdroid etc
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link please, can we use it as daily driver? taking pics, no heating prob, battery life and smooth and lag free?
FatherD said:
Second G2 here, the 32GB variety, I swapped out my first G2(16Gb) to the G3 hoping for all that upgrade coolness - nope, then the OnePlus1 - cheaper than the G3 etc, but the size started to bother me. So, I went back to the G2, I still have the 16GB first one which was battered close to death by my resident teenager so I picked up the second one very cheaply and would not swap it for anything. To my eyes and hands nothing made after it looks or handles much better, the G2 still has one of the best screen-to-size ratios - my favourite thing about it! I'm Running OrionOS MM, getting up to 5 hours screen time, LGCamera from the Playstore does a fair job of replacing the stock one, it even does 1080p @ 60fps. Of late the headphone socket has started acting up a bit .. off to Ebay for another 32Gb model, don't mind if I do!
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Could you give me a link to webcam app?
Let us know how you like the G4.
Have to agree with how many choices are available for 250-400!
So many good phones are out now
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No Oneplus 3 yet, I have this phone:
- G2 D802(32gb) bought new since 2013 I think
- G Pro2 32gb F350L, this device just similar to G2 but 5.9 inch screen, 3gb ram+sd card and much better sound from my experience.
- Htc one M8 32gb, this phone screen/speaker is good and performance is all right and reliable.
I have ordered Lg G4 (F500) it's coming in few days, so I will try it.
They are not new devices but with root and custom rom they still work quite good for me.
I think now you can get really good phone for $250-$400 with Xiaomi Mi5/5s, LeEco Pro2/3, Zuk Z2/Pro, Oneplus 3, Lg G5 so many choices. For speed I seen reviews Oneplus 3 is top dog, with new Huawei Honor8 5.2inch is good too if you like small phone.
For good multimedia/audio experience maybe Lenovo Vibe X3 cost less than ZTE Axzon 7 in my opinion.
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I just love my g2. Is there anything in the market similar ? After three years the main problems for me are scratched rear camera. Bluetooth needing reboots to work. And finally the constant need after rebooting to enter a code to change to 4g. Won't be changing it any time soon.
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I just love my g2. Is there anything in the market similar ? After three years the main problems for me are scratched rear camera. Bluetooth needing reboots to work. And finally the constant need after rebooting to enter a code to change to 4g. Won't be changing it any time soon.
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Sounds like custom ROM problems. Try sticking to LG based ROMs - if you already are, then try an LG kitkat ROM. 4.4 has always worked best for me.
Hello everyone,
So recently I'm considering a new phone as my current daily driver is very old (Samsung Galaxy Grand Gt-i9082).
Among the phones I'm considering is a used LG V10, with a very good price, I examined the phone and it seemed in very good shape externally, and I feel in love with it as it felt great in my hand.
now I've never bought a used phone before and I don't know what to check in a used phone before buying it, can you guys help me figure out how to decide whether this is a good deal or not? like what do I need to check before I buy it? and what do I need to be concerned about?
In the same price range, I am offered a new Sony Xperia XA Ultra or a LG Nexus 5X (16 gb model). Do you think the LG V10 is the best choice over these two especially that I'm getting it for a similar price?
Thank you in advance.
First of all v10 is better than ur other options. Nexus is always good but 16 is no go. Now since you have already seen v10, if it is clean from outside it probably is good from inside. But still u have to check thoroughly. First of all check essentials like wifi, Bluetooth, display (for dots), speaker, cameras, mic and earphone. Now download and install as many benchmark apps as possible, run each one of them one by one, if there will be any thing fishy with the 'soc' the set will shutdown or go mad, now after all test check the phone details in any of the benchmark apps, details about hardwares. By this time u r almost done but it is obvious no one can check a phone in an hour or couple. So try to take money-back warranty of atleast 24hrs to be on the safe side, if phone is OK the shopkeeper will happily agree but sometimes they will not. And last but not least I will try to give you some other options;
1, nexus 6
2, note 4
3, lg g4
4, oneplus 2
Hope I have helped you. Thanks
Hi, I'm now on a Galaxy Note 3 and would like to upgrade to the G5, since it has the specs I'm looking for.
However, I felt like asking you guys if there's any better option I should consider, or any defects that are not worth risking for (bootloping?)
Thanks a lot in advance
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Hi, I'm now on a Galaxy Note 3 and would like to upgrade to the G5, since it has the specs I'm looking for.
However, I felt like asking you guys if there's any better option I should consider, or any defects that are not worth risking for (bootloping?)
Thanks a lot in advance
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The price and specs are great. The rom/root community is okay size. Build quality is trash. Don't buy this phone. With a little more money you could buy the One Plus 3T or One Plus 5. Better specs, build quality, rom/root, etc.
My next phone is Note 8 or One plus 3T or 5. I am not trying to bash phone. Just giving you an honest opinion. Look through the threads you will see tons of people with GPS, Backlight Bleed, bootloop issues, etc. I love LG, but will be my last LG phone for a long time.
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I'm looking to get the H850 for my mom since it is only $300CAD if I get my friend to bring it back from Hong Kong. Can't find any another phone in that price range that would be better than the LG G5 H850...
Hardware and price are amazing, especially the model RS988 that covers the most weirdest bands that are available in areas like Canada. Unfortunately, the root/bootloader on the rest of models are bringing tons of problems, if its rootable/unlockable at all. Custom firmware choice is very poor, and they are raw even after 1 year of release. What it means is that you basically can't use NFC on most of custom roms (if not all). The stock firmware on the other hand is very well made and stable. I'm using it with Magisk without issues. So far the only problem is stock kernel doesn't seem to be energy efficient, so battery flies away in a day or two of use. However, battery is replaceable, what is offered in not that many flagship phones nowadays.
I can't agree about bad quality of build. I would say its very good comparing to what else you can meet nowadays.
Other than that, it's one of the best phones available for 250$ on B&H (Titan) if not the only good one.
Yeah not sure about other countries, but in Canada it's hard to beat the LG G5. OnePlus 3T/5 are $600/$650CAD+tax respectively and the G5 can be found for $330-370 all in. Even 2016 mid-range phones like the Axon 7 and Honor 8 are $400-$500+tax.
Build quality isn't up to par with other flagships, but it's not terrible IMO. At least it's better than most mid-range phones.
It is a lottery phone.
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It is a lottery phone.
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I would have to agree with this statement.
Build quality is pretty bad guys sorry. I've had plenty of low/Mid/High end of phones. I've never seen this many issues as this one. When I see GPS and backlight bleed threads filled with countless complaints. Yeah that's bad build quality.
Damiloveu statement pretty much sums it up right it's a lottery phone. 50/50 hit or miss, be for warned potential new g5 buyers. GREAT phone if no issues. And if it does have problems many headaches await you.
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dimon222 said:
Hardware and price are amazing, especially the model RS988 that covers the most weirdest bands that are available in areas like Canada. Unfortunately, the root/bootloader on the rest of models are bringing tons of problems, if its rootable/unlockable at all. Custom firmware choice is very poor, and they are raw even after 1 year of release. What it means is that you basically can't use NFC on most of custom roms (if not all). The stock firmware on the other hand is very well made and stable. I'm using it with Magisk without issues. So far the only problem is stock kernel doesn't seem to be energy efficient, so battery flies away in a day or two of use. However, battery is replaceable, what is offered in not that many flagship phones nowadays.
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I would install Fulmics on the LG G5 if I can get it for my mom, so the RS988 is out of the question for me. I just cannot buy phones if I cannot install custom ROMs on it. I hate being at the mercy of manufacturers for software updates.
I'm so confused as to why manufacturers cannot just sell one or two variant of the same phone. Making dozens of variants seems so stupid.
coming from P9.
Maybe my most complain bout this device is the GPS as i always use gps for ingress, second is battery and the rest is the design and build quality though I dont have the screen retentention issues yet.
Thanks a lot, everybody. I think I'll get this phone, it features literally *every* feature I need on a device.
cheeze.keyk said:
coming from P9.
Maybe my most complain bout this device is the GPS as i always use gps for ingress, second is battery and the rest is the design and build quality though I dont have the screen retentention issues yet.
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I got a used AT&T H820 and it had the GPS issue, especially worse when cloudy and rainy. However, I returned the AT&T one and got an unlocked RS988 and I couldn't be happier with my purchase.
totalnoob34 said:
Hi, I'm now on a Galaxy Note 3 and would like to upgrade to the G5, since it has the specs I'm looking for.
However, I felt like asking you guys if there's any better option I should consider, or any defects that are not worth risking for (bootloping?)
Thanks a lot in advance
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If you need a hot swappable battery, the G5 is great.
If you game a lot, and want the ability to do so without remaining plugged in and burning up your phone, then the G5 is perfect for you.
As far as performance, no issues whatsoever.
Battery life is average, but with the ability to swap out new batteries and charge dead ones outside the phone in a charging port, you honestly don't have battery downtime. It's just always up.
That's the biggest advantage of this phone.
If you're looking for a better deal, you don't need unlimited battery life, or you're looking for a rich featureset, I would look elsewhere.
The gps is absolute wank and I don't have the time or inclination to do a hardware fix. I did a quick comparison with my friend who owns an OP3 indoors; his had gps lock with 15 seconds but mine was still searching after several minutes. In fact, I have almost missed turnings when driving a few times because of this POS. I never replace my phone until it has had 18 months usage but for the G5, I will make an exception.
I have LG G5 since April 2016 after my Note 3 : no root or anything, LG updates regulary.
I never have problems with it.
-No bootloop, no GPS bugs, a better reception with the same carrier...
-Camera is really good, especially the large wide-angle.
-Battery life: a day with a little use (waze to go work -one hour/day) wifi on, "always on display" always activate, some internet at evening : Facebook, Twitter, insta, mails...
-IR for soundbar, tv is really good !!
But no SPen ? So I will get the Note 8, really great for work, with the camera options easier than LG suit.
And finally, i prefer Samsung environment, even if G5 is really a good phone.
Envoyé de mon LG-H850 en utilisant Tapatalk
It's not worth the broken GPS sensors which are a known hardware defect. They'll fix it for you, but it's never the root of the problem so it will come back. I've sent mine in 3 times, GPS works for a couple days, then ceases to work again. Terrible quality control, by far the worst phone I've owned. My Galaxy S4 was better.
totalnoob34 said:
Hi, I'm now on a Galaxy Note 3 and would like to upgrade to the G5, since it has the specs I'm looking for.
However, I felt like asking you guys if there's any better option I should consider, or any defects that are not worth risking for (bootloping?)
Thanks a lot in advance
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well, looks like i'm not the only one who migrate from Galaxy Note 3. let me tell you my short little story
I upgraded since my Note 3 were exynos version which didnt support 4g band. i was looking for cheap second hand devices with LTE support :laugh: ( dont judge me, bussines is low here in indonesia i cant afford phone more than 250$ - on indonesia currency and prices of course)
so i search all available markets, online and offline. some guys recomended 3 phone. LG G5 h860, xperia z5, and HTC m9 ( all cost about 200-250$ here, second handed) so i spent about 3 days on google comparing all 3 phone. i kick z5 out from my list since i had a bad experience with sony devices ( heat issue, poor audio quality, you name it) so it just m9 or g5. m9 is a good phone, its the cheapest one, had official support for lineage and SlimOS. solid built, and dual speaker. the drawback were its photo quality, its much worse than my note 3 even with 20mp camera. but at that time i cant find g5, the only available one were g5 SE version which is downgrade one ( 3gb ram and qualcom 625) and it cost about 299$!! hell no, so i pick the m9. but as i said before, i'm not really satisfied. the main advantages comparing my old note were: better sound, better network 4g, better official OS ( Lollipop vs nougat) and custom, and fast charging. but thats the only option i got that time. after several months some guys here sold his g5 h860 on low prices, i dont need to think twice so today my g5 finally arrived. still looks good for a second hand devices, the ony issue were the screen ghosting when the devices getting hot. but it would dissapear after some minutes, i can live with that. BUT, comparing to my m9 the battery drains faster, no root option, no custom recovery or rom. so for answering your question, IF i moved from note 3 directly to G5 i would be really happy as it has more advantages. but since i got my hand on m9 first i still feel little dissapointed . i cant stop comaring 3 of them. note 3 has bigger display and spen support, m9 has the best custom rom suppot and great battery, while g5 has the most awesome camera and screen resolution :cyclops: .
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well, looks like i'm not the only one who migrate from Galaxy Note 3. let me tell you my short little story
I upgraded since my Note 3 were exynos version which didnt support 4g band. i was looking for cheap second hand devices with LTE support :laugh: ( dont judge me, bussines is low here in indonesia i cant afford phone more than 250$ - on indonesia currency and prices of course)
so i search all available markets, online and offline. some guys recomended 3 phone. LG G5 h860, xperia z5, and HTC m9 ( all cost about 200-250$ here, second handed) so i spent about 3 days on google comparing all 3 phone. i kick z5 out from my list since i had a bad experience with sony devices ( heat issue, poor audio quality, you name it) so it just m9 or g5. m9 is a good phone, its the cheapest one, had official support for lineage and SlimOS. solid built, and dual speaker. the drawback were its photo quality, its much worse than my note 3 even with 20mp camera. but at that time i cant find g5, the only available one were g5 SE version which is downgrade one ( 3gb ram and qualcom 625) and it cost about 299$!! hell no, so i pick the m9. but as i said before, i'm not really satisfied. the main advantages comparing my old note were: better sound, better network 4g, better official OS ( Lollipop vs nougat) and custom, and fast charging. but thats the only option i got that time. after several months some guys here sold his g5 h860 on low prices, i dont need to think twice so today my g5 finally arrived. still looks good for a second hand devices, the ony issue were the screen ghosting when the devices getting hot. but it would dissapear after some minutes, i can live with that. BUT, comparing to my m9 the battery drains faster, no root option, no custom recovery or rom. so for answering your question, IF i moved from note 3 directly to G5 i would be really happy as it has more advantages. but since i got my hand on m9 first i still feel little dissapointed . i cant stop comaring 3 of them. note 3 has bigger display and spen support, m9 has the best custom rom suppot and great battery, while g5 has the most awesome camera and screen resolution :cyclops: .
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Ok, first off, thanks a lot for the detailed feedback. I actually appreciate it when people put a little effort in helping others online.
I ultimately settled for a G5, since a replaceable battery is more important to me than a bigger one, and also because I could really use those extra 0.3" on the screen. Moreover, you were unlucky in getting an h860 variant, because the european h850 has some decent support over here.
Lastly, I am not getting another HTC device again, I had an HTC Desire S. Let me tell you something about that phone: you could *not* remove the battery with the device on, risking a total brick. Yup, you heard me right. A flimsy plastic clip was all that kept your precious phone from mayhem and destruction. The best part is that it was a hardware defect, obviously ineligible for warranty replacement, and I don't recall HTC ever acknowledging the issue, let alone provide the user with some kind of compensation. Also, HTC always was a pain in the ass to customize, and the HTCdev program is a joke.
Nonetheless, thanks a lot for the feedback man. Have a good one
totalnoob34 said:
Ok, first off, thanks a lot for the detailed feedback. I actually appreciate it when people put a little effort in helping others online.
I ultimately settled for a G5, since a replaceable battery is more important to me than a bigger one, and also because I could really use those extra 0.3" on the screen. Moreover, you were unlucky in getting an h860 variant, because the european h850 has some decent support over here.
Lastly, I am not getting another HTC device again, I had an HTC Desire S. Let me tell you something about that phone: you could *not* remove the battery with the device on, risking a total brick. Yup, you heard me right. A flimsy plastic clip was all that kept your precious phone from mayhem and destruction. The best part is that it was a hardware defect, obviously ineligible for warranty replacement, and I don't recall HTC ever acknowledging the issue, let alone provide the user with some kind of compensation. Also, HTC always was a pain in the ass to customize, and the HTCdev program is a joke.
Nonetheless, thanks a lot for the feedback man. Have a good one
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yeep, my biggest regret were i didnt read much about lg g5, infact i read too many about it so i skip the most important things. from what i gather around the web, g5 has 2 version. G5 and g5 SE. the g5 has snap820, 4gb ram and single sim, while g5 SE had snap 625, 3GB ram and dualsim. i use 2 simcard one for main use and another for data connection. and h860 has both advantages from 2 g5 version, snap 820/4gb ram and Dualsim support. i didnt bother to check on XDA for root method as i though it just the same as samsung or HTC, even with many varian usually all of them has the same exploit. i never though i would be so wrong on my life . and for the HTC part, well what can i say, here in indonesia we didnt have official HTC service centre so if we had a malfunction devices we just need to fix it on our own . same goes to LG G5 since the only one that they sold here were g5 SE, some friend of mine already bought g5 from singapore last year and when his screen broke he sent it to LG centre but they refuse it, they said the only accept g5 SE. so i'm totally aware when i bought those devices, i cant rely on warranty or official services. and its not the first time, usually lot of devices which sold here were downgraded version comparing to international one. like
note 3 on international version they had snap801 and lte support while official one the had stupid exynoss and 3g only. same goes with Note 5 snapdragon inter vs exynoss local, and also xiaomi devices, huawei, and many other brands which i dont remember anymore. thats why, many people here usually bought new/second hand devices from another country because they want to feel the real experience while also acknowledge they cant bring it to official service centre when it broke later.
Hell no.