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First things first thanks development gurus for all your amazing efforts. Now that being said and this is actually more of an observation on the "community " as a whole...
The flame wars and the bickering acomplish nothing. There's a saying "together we all accomplish more." So why not source share across the board? It is supposedly an open platform right? Give appropriate dues and together who know what's possible. I don't think anyone is trying to take anyone's lime light. There may have been some inadvertent slips where credit wasn't given. I don't think it was malicious though.
I just wanted to say this because all of this petty back and forth takes away from the development (which is the basis of the community ). And for those just looking for drama seek it elsewhere please. It serves no purpose here.
Respectfully,
Chris
It's a nice thought but the devs are a strange breed and some require all the attention so they can feel good. People like drama and devs are just as bad as teenage girls.
WalkingTaco said:
It's a nice thought but the devs are a strange breed and some require all the attention so they can feel good. People like drama and devs are just as bad as teenage girls.
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Now if they WERE teenage girls our dreams could come true...
WalkingTaco said:
It's a nice thought but the devs are a strange breed and some require all the attention so they can feel good. People like drama and devs are just as bad as teenage girls.
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The ones who act like little girls are the noobs that need spoon-feeding and don't get it, and the old bats who don't understand the process, like you
I'll admit, when I release a new update of ZenEXP-Eris and people enjoy it, it makes me feel good, but I don't do it to get my rocks off, pal.
-mak
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sunder74 said:
First things first thanks development gurus for all your amazing efforts. Now that being said and this is actually more of an observation on the "community " as a whole...
The flame wars and the bickering acomplish nothing. There's a saying "together we all accomplish more." So why not source share across the board? It is supposedly an open platform right? Give appropriate dues and together who know what's possible. I don't think anyone is trying to take anyone's lime light. There may have been some inadvertent slips where credit wasn't given. I don't think it was malicious though.
I just wanted to say this because all of this petty back and forth takes away from the development (which is the basis of the community ). And for those just looking for drama seek it elsewhere please. It serves no purpose here.
Respectfully,
Chris
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Agreed. I haven't even been here that long and I've seen it go down hill ever since we got root and a lot of ROMs started coming out. Can't we just go back to the way it was and all get along?
I have been around since the beginning of android. I Had a G1, then a Nexus One, to a MT4G, and now a Rezound. I rooted every one (minus the rezound obviously) and frequented the forums, learning and discussing the Mod'ing of these devices. As these past years have gone by, I have grown more and more concerned with the direction the community has taken.
Now there has always been at least some drama within the community, but as Android has grown in popularity, and more users seek info in the forums, the drama has ramped up exponentially it seems.
I remember when it was more about info than ego...
My request: Can we please get back to what its really about? Mod'ing, Flashing, and fun. Lets leave our egos at the door, they only do more harm than good. A sense of community and mutual respect is what we should strive for.
No personal insults/attacks be respectful even in disagreements
Don't steal code... give credit where due
Don't be a troll
Don't flame someone just for ignorance (if they seem to be habitual in forum misuse tell a mod so they can investigate and they can handle it appropriately)
Expect nothing, make no demands, ask politely... this goes for all sides
Remember this is a hobby and just for fun for most of us. Replace the fun with drama and what is the point.
I am sure there are other things I could list, but that will do for now.
Edit: resurrected from the dead...
Just so you guys know... Nobody is owed anything. No Dev owes you ROMs, root, or anything else. Vice versa, no user owes a Dev anything for their work. (paid market apps excluded) The rooting community is a hobby based entity. We work on respect and a mutual love of the platform. Donations are voluntary but a good idea. (It makes Devs feel appreciated)
Another thing... Drama... It kills the community. It runs off users and Devs alike. It creates a hostile environment that no one wants to deal with. When a device looses Devs it can be a death nail to the further development for that device.
When you think "just my one little question on ETAs won't be a big deal, I'll PM/IRC/tweet/IM the dev" you have to remember... about 100 other people are thinking the exact same thing. Its one thing to pop in the ROM's thread and if you don't see any activity for several days/a week, to post a quick question like "how is it going?", as dealing one one question and being able to answer publicly so others benefit too is not a big deal... Just don't get upset if the answer is a simple "we are still working on it" Often times there is a lot of effort put in but no real progress to report, no landmark goals yet made.
When you take the ETA/update questions into areas like IM that you start getting several people an hour pestering someone with the same question and it gets old...
^^^^^that's what it should about. But u got so many newbies here (and we all started somewhere of course) it seems as of the trolling and such come from New people not understanding the aspect of the site. But I k.ow I'm wasting my time typi.g his. Hope it happens.
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When I first started coming here, it was all about the phones. Helpful people, friendly community, the works. After a while it just seemed to deteriorate. Every other thread was a flame war. It got to a point where i'd rather rack my brain or scour Google before I'd ask a question in here, because I knew some ego tripping person with no manners was gonna try to flame me for asking a simple question. A little respect/courtesy can go a long way, whether if ur helping someone or being helped.
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Thank you for this post. +1000000000
I would like to see a rule enforced regarding swearing and overly aggressive, or hateful language.
I understand that phones can be frustrating, and so can users. But, if you can't post in a helpful and friendly way, you probably shouldn't post at all.
Temporary (and the threat of permanent) banning should be used to keep those in line who do not have the self control to handle posting in a respectful manner.
I wouldn't worry too much. With the Galaxy Nexus going on sale today, most of the babies crying that they can't unlock/root their Rezound are most likely in line right now to exchange their Rezound for the Galaxy Nexus. That should weed out many of those who do nothing but complain here in the Rezound threads.
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I wouldn't worry too much. With the Galaxy Nexus going on sale today, most of the babies crying that they can't unlock/root their Rezound are most likely in line right now to exchange their Rezound for the Galaxy Nexus. That should weed out many of those who do nothing but complain here in the Rezound threads.
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This should be in the general forum, not a phone specific Forum.
That aside, I agree. This is a forum where the work people do is totally by choice, because they like it as a hobby or for whatever other reasons they may have. It's all about respect and patience, something a lot of people need to remember and practice themselves.
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And by this forum, I mean xda in general.
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I agree, that this is what it should be about again!!! ^^^
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This should be in the general forum, not a phone specific Forum.
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Not trying to start anything or flame anyone, but isn't it the Mod's job to determine whether a thread is posted in the wrong area and move it accordingly? It just seems that if you come behind someone who took the time to start a thread and tell them that its in the wrong place, you come off like a smart Alec and thus animosity begins. Not saying that u are, just saying some ppl get off on that and only that. Once again, not trying to start anything, just my two pennies.
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Long live the rezound and the people who help others truly understand this great phone.
I'm living on a yellow submarine
It is their job, I was just saying what I think but I realized that I didn't put the phrase "I think " in that first comment. It was and still is a suggestion before some people flame him cause it is in this forum. Also, if he wants to get that message out, its towards the whole community, not just people in the Rezound forums, know what I mean. Didn't mean to sound like a smart Alec ='(.
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300k said:
It is their job, I was just saying what I think but I realized that I didn't put the phrase "I think " in that first comment. It was and still is a suggestion before some people flame him cause it is in this forum. Also, if he wants to get that message out, its towards the whole community, not just people in the Rezound forums, know what I mean. Didn't mean to sound like a smart Alec ='(.
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Yeah I agree. The flamers r in the building!! Lol its cool I think it is a message that needs to be spread forum wide tho. Another thread got shut down due to the things that are addressed in this thread.
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Yeah, I considered putting this in the over all general forum, but I am seeing so much craziness here in the Rezound forums that I thought it was needed here the most. I might throw it up in the Android general section if you guys think I should.
I love this phone, but I am getting impatient for root.
It is mostly the battery life issue. I hate extra batteries with a passion and hate needing to charge during the day as well. I am a light user, I just game a few minutes during breaks, send a few messages through the day and a few random things here and there. I really only have a smartphone for the convenience that it brings and the fact I like the Android OS and followed it since early 2007. With my MT4G even on a heavy use day (for me) I would have 40% left when I went to bed and charged, usually it was around 60%. With the larger screen and dual cores, I don't expect the same, but I know it will be better with cyanogenMOD on it. I can get through the day, but just barely, and that is on my lightest days.
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Yeah, I considered putting this in the over all general forum, but I am seeing so much craziness here in the Rezound forums that I thought it was needed here the most. I might throw it up in the Android general section if you guys think I should.
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^Agreed. How Many Members That Are Here(Rezound Forum) Actually Look At The Main xda General Section.
Xtreme Outcast said:
^Agreed. How Many Members That Are Here(Rezound Forum) Actually Look At The Main xda General Section.
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I very rarely head over there.
I agree 100% with the OP. If people talked to each other like they would if they were sitting next to that person, half of the stuff wouldn't be said. When I drove a truck over the road, we used to call them people "CB Rambos".
Ah the courage that comes with anonymity. Isn't it grand...
#ff
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Marine6680 said:
Ah the courage that comes with anonymity. Isn't it grand...
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Hmm...?? Who Are You Referring About? I Didn't Think I Said Anything Wrong Just Noting About Not Many People In "Here" Read The xda-General. If I Said Something Wrong I Do Apologize There Was No Condescending Intention.
OK guys listen well...
Remember this post?
Apparently not... as you all seem to keep acting like little kids.
I saw yet another locked thread when I logged on today.
As it stands I don't care who is or is not lying, who is or is not a troll, and or who is or is not right. I don't, I simply don't...
If you have issues with someone, just ignore them or stay away from their posts, twitter feeds or websites as the case may be. It would be so much better for us all that way.
Now I don't mind a bit of off topic discussion and threads, but all I am seeing lately is bashing, arguing and trolling.
Let me lay a little something on you... Nobody is owed anything. No Dev owes you ROMs, root, or anything else. Vice versa, no user owes a Dev anything for their work. (paid market apps excluded) The rooting community is a hobby based entity. We work on respect and a mutual love of the platform. Donations are voluntary but a good idea. (It makes Devs feel appreciated)
Another thing... Drama... It kills the community. It runs off users and Devs alike. It creates a hostile environment that no one wants to deal with. When a device looses Devs it can be a death nail to the further development for that device, and when we don't even have a perm root exploit, loosing top Devs is the worst scenario imaginable.
It is getting so bad that even I am getting aggravated, and I could stay calm even with someone punching me in the face...
It is so bad I am giving serious consideration to jumping ship to the Nexus... An (in my opinion) inferior device to the Rezound, just to get away from most of the drama.
Come on people, get your f***ing acts together, and your heads out of your a**es.
Sorry if I come off as a jerk, but something needs to be said/done about all this.
Internet drama...dun dun dun
And how about no more Nexus threads too?
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And how about no more Nexus threads too?
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Eh... its a valid topic to compare phones... but it can get out of hand.
There's always going to be drama no matter what you do and what you say. As much as we would like everyone to grow the F up, that's just not going to happen. Internet forum trolls are here to stay, and frankly this thread is probably giving them what they want... More attention! Sure you can jump ship and go to the Nexus, but I'm pretty damn positive there will be drama there too. Best thing you can do is just ignore the ****, nothing you say or do is going to change what's happening on this forum.
Threads will be closed, another will be opened and get trolled, and probably closed again. I'm just going to sit back and enjoy the ride till S-off happens. I also have alot of popcorn ready!
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There's always going to be drama no matter what you do and what you say. As much as we would like everyone to grow the F up, that's just not going to happen. Internet forum trolls are here to stay, and frankly this thread is probably giving them what they want... More attention! Sure you can jump ship and go to the Nexus, but I'm pretty damn positive there will be drama there too. Best thing you can do is just ignore the ****, nothing you say or do is going to change what's happening on this forum.
Threads will be closed, another will be opened and get trolled, and probably closed again. I'm just going to sit back and enjoy the ride till S-off happens. I also have alot of popcorn ready!
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I just remember when it wasn't like this, and I miss those days.
Something irked me today... I am just getting sick of the he said she said crap, and other nonsense.
Marine6680 said:
Eh... its a valid topic to compare phones... but it can get out of hand.
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Agreed, but there's plenty of threads already, no need for more (and by now pretty much all the comparisons have been made and all one needs to do is read). Especially when they're just for the drama, and there have certainly been those here.
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I just remember when it wasn't like this, and I miss those days.
Something irked me today... I am just getting sick of the he said she said crap, and other nonsense.
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I understand how you feel man. It's just that some people think they're entitled to everything and they want it now. If they don't get it right away then they start having hissy fits. They think they're big and bad and on the top of the world sitting behind their keyboards. Just makes me wonder how they make it through daily life. Best thing really is just to ignore them, don't feed the trolls and eventually they will go away. Sure they'll continue to post and hope to bait a person into a response, but if everyone keeps at it they'll go elsewhere.
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I just remember when it wasn't like this, and I miss those days.
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+1
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I think once s-off is achieved things will calm down and the trolls will find somewhere else to bother people. That's how it was with the EVO 3D forum.
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I was thinking of doing the same thing as the OP, jumping ship to the Nexus. But then I remembered, wait a minute self, the Nexus sucks.
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I was thinking of doing the same thing as the OP, jumping ship to the Nexus. But then I remembered, wait a minute self, the Nexus sucks.
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Cosiggity
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blestsol said:
Cosiggity
Sent from a Rezound, crappie camera included.
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You must really dislike the Rezounds camera to include it in your sig.
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You must really dislike the Rezounds camera to include it in your sig.
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LOL, yea that cracks me up everytime I see it (and hardly seems necessary).
The Rezound may not have the worlds best camera, but it's not half bad for a camera phone....
~John
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You must really dislike the Rezounds camera to include it in your sig.
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Hehehe, I had been thinking the same thing seeing his/her sig in other threads. Not to go OT, but the camera on this phone is soooo much better than my last htc phone. It's NOT a DSLR, but it certainly does a hella good job on image quality for a phone camera. I'm not conplaining..lol .
As for the trolls...bashers...dramateers.. and those well known HUTA's (Head Up Their A**es) ... It will never end. They love fuel, and all people like you and me do is refill the tank. Sure, there were much better times when everything was nicer and most of the posts were filled with posituve and/or constructive feedback. This is the same way all over the internet. But there is no sense in blowing up and attacking those who cause the trouble because it does absolutely no goid at all. I know... I've done this myself and it gets me nowhere. The best thing you can do is to always try and encourage positive feedback. Not everyone will like every commend, post or idea... Not everyone will agree on one thing. Best things to not be doing is bragging too much about something or attacking and/or making fun of something someonevow.s...eg.. like their phone.. or hating on something they said. Im no mod in here, but it's just straight out common sense. Some people just wantvto get a rise out of others and those others just can't resist torpedoing that trolls sorry arse with some smarta** comment to get them going even mote.... Admit it, many of us have done it. Some things will never change... And this, is one of them. Thats what mods are for. But everyone here can make their life a little easier by not contributing to the source... / .... Fuel .
Pro-tip: You don't need to read drama filled threads. You don't need to read any thread actually. You have the choice to come to the forum, check for any thread titles indicating root has been achieved, and if you don't see them then either go away, or read only threads that have titles which interest you. Plain and simple.
I don't know why everyone on the internet feels that every single god damn thread in every forum MUST adhere to their own views of how threads should progress. If people want to *****/troll/libel/lie/cry/etc., then who are you to tell them not to? If you don't like it, DON'T READ IT!!! Plus, it's a PHONE. How do you not have anything else in your life going on that makes forums on phones completely irritate you to the point where you feel the need to tell people to not express their opinion? I'm assuming you're a Marine, which means you have probably sacrificed your life at some point to give US citizens the right to ***** and moan to their hearts desire. But that doesn't give you the right to tell people how to act.
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Pro-tip: You don't need to read drama filled threads. You don't need to read any thread actually. You have the choice to come to the forum, check for any thread titles indicating root has been achieved, and if you don't see them then either go away, or read only threads that have titles which interest you. Plain and simple.
I don't know why everyone on the internet feels that every single god damn thread in every forum MUST adhere to their own views of how threads should progress. If people want to *****/troll/libel/lie/cry/etc., then who are you to tell them not to? If you don't like it, DON'T READ IT!!! Plus, it's a PHONE. How do you not have anything else in your life going on that makes forums on phones completely irritate you to the point where you feel the need to tell people to not express their opinion? I'm assuming you're a Marine, which means you have probably sacrificed your life at some point to give US citizens the right to ***** and moan to their hearts desire. But that doesn't give you the right to tell people how to act.
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I've shared this same idea before, about people just not reading it and keeping it moving. But I do know sometimes you just can't help it.
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nm... was trying to add some levity but decided it's best to leave it alone.
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but the camera on this phone is soooo much better than my last htc phone. It's NOT a DSLR, but it certainly does a hella good job on image quality for a phone camera. I'm not conplaining..lol .
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LOL-I'm not complaining either.
I am a pro-photographer & own four Canon DSLR's which are awesome, but the Rezound camera certainly comes in handy when it's all I have with me.
To put in your sig that it's crappy just seems kinda stupid to me, it's better than 99% of the other camera phones......
~John
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LOL-I'm not complaining either.
I am a pro-photographer & own four Canon DSLR's which are awesome, but the Rezound camera certainly comes in handy when it's all I have with me.
To put in your sig that it's crappy just seems kinda stupid to me, it's better than 99% of the other camera phones......
~John
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Great opinion there, you think it's stupid but I've used the epic touch camera and im bitter after being spoiled. Kinda stupid to not see someone has a different experience. Sorry my signature seems to be getting under your skin with your rezound pride.
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Let's clean this up a bit, shall we?
I get the impression sometimes that we (speaking about everybody here in the 3D forums recently) make this place sort of "unfriendly" with sarcasm and troll posts, rudeness when people post in the wrong section, create duplicate threads, so on and so forth...
First of all, I will say that I am fully aware of my own contribution to this, lol. BUT... i was thinking earlier about when I started out over on SDX and how friendly and eager people were to help me when I was new to the android/Linux scene (although I still had somewhat of a basic understanding of it because of my knowledge of windows, Linux and especially android was a new world to me and much of the knowledge I have picked up since then was simply because people were so willing to offer help and their own knowledge - regardless of "noob" questions (when I simply could have used a search button).
Yeah, for whatever reason you just want to punch people through the computer sometimes when they post in the wrong section or make "hAlp my phonez is teh broken" threads that can easily be fixed with some searching around. But I think we should try to be a little bit more of a friendly and tolerant (and therefore tolerable... ironically) of the things that go on around here.
Anyways, just some dumb ass rant post. But I thought I would share this thought because I feel the action of it could be a positive thing around here.
oouuut.
So, I will be nicer to people. Let's all try this, shall we?
except for freeza.... i am still trolling you.... on a regular basis. lulz
Cool story bro
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bloodrain954 said:
Cool story bro
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I think that's exact reason why the op posted this thread,childish stuff like that.
If I helped, give thanks, if you please.
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bloodrain954 said:
Cool story bro
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lol... touchè
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l000000000l as a youngster I used to be the lookout ;-)
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Would be a change of pace. A nice one. Maybe this should be some sort of pledge to help teh n00bz.
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TL;DR +10Char
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Yes,I'm one of the sorry trolls you are talking about
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In the Netherlands we always say: there no such thing as a stupid question but only stupid answers.
You hit the nail right ok the head. I joined
XDA almost a year ago and everyone was very helpful. I learned a lot. Now its a lot of people b***ing about stupid things like a devs work or a question they they have decided is "dumb".
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If I've helped you in any way... hit the "Thanks" button.
I think a lot of it has to do with the fact that since there's been a flood of Android phones hitting the market over the last year and a half or so, there's also a flood of people who come with it. They buy a new Android device, hear about 'rooting' and jump on here. Not everyone knows the meaning of respect, and they expect things to just be handed to them. There's definitely more idiots on here than before, but also just more people overall. No matter where you go, the more people around, the more idiots there will be. It's unfortunate indeed.
I try to be helpful, but it's definitely aggravating when someone just flat out doesn't read a damn thing, and asks a question that's clearly typed in the OP. When I joined, I didn't know ANYTHING about rooting, ROMs, etc. but I read a few things and learned.
There are a few forums that I use that have a n00b section with zero intolerance for the replies to questions in said sub-forum, maybe that would be nice, then we can segregate the n00bs and flame more well-known users for asking stupid things. Lol
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I used to get on here several times a day, reading these forums, but it took me a long time to actually register because the few immature people that start a fight in the thread made it look irritating. Like whoever posted in the recent ICS thread about how the OP was information from another thread, even though the OP was several pages long.
Who cares? It's something else to read. That's why most of us are here, for some form of entertainment.
n00bs != newbies
Newbies don't know things and after TRYING to figure it out themselves, they have ended up, seeking answers for uncommon situations. This is OK.
n00bs, on the other hand, don't know ****, they don't give a crap about learning and expecting from others to give all the answers on a gold plate without moving a finger on their foot. This is not OK.
The sooner pseudomoralistic idiots realize this, the sooner will be this place be as it used to be before. If not, I'll continue to troll n00bs for my own amusement and you can kiss my shiny ass.
'Nuff said.
Every time I see someone say "cool story bro" I add them to my ignore list. Just added another..
That said XDA has gone steadily down hill. I remember when I first came here I was actually afraid to post. Now XDA is so addicted to member counts that they let just about anything go. Had a guy yesterday asking how to hack Amazon this is the crowd being attracted now. Its a shame and like many others i'm looking for the next XDA. Problems is the asses will just following. BTW I have no idea what the OP posted because he is already on my ignore list as it the poster below him now.
Terepin said:
n00bs != newbies
Newbies don't know things and after TRYING to figure it out themselves, they have ended up, seeking answers for uncommon situations. This is OK.
n00bs, on the other hand, don't know ****, they don't give a crap about learning and expecting from others to give all the answers on a gold plate without moving a finger on their foot. This is not OK.
The sooner pseudomoralistic idiots realize this, the sooner will be this place be as it used to be before. If not, I'll continue to troll n00bs for my own amusement and you can kiss my shiny ass.
'Nuff said.
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Yes, the "an answer is easily found by a very fast google search but I'm too lazy to do it or just expect you tell me" crowd is the problem I agree. Even if they are not the majority, when I see a new thread or question that seems like an easy find, I get really mad because I had to take the time to learn and search on my own. I've been on here since 2006 and I guess because of all the new androids out there you get people who are not technologically inclined trying to do technicological things.
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That said XDA has gone steadily down hill. I remember when I first came here I was actually afraid to post. Now XDA is so addicted to member counts that they let just about anything go. Had a guy yesterday asking how to hack Amazon this is the crowd being attracted now. Its a shame and like many others i'm looking for the next XDA. Problems is the asses will just following. BTW I have no idea what the OP posted because he is already on my ignore list as it the poster below him now.
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However, I agree it has gotten out of control, and the mods are unwilling or unable to do anything about the newbs or the a%*holes that are attacking devs when they know nothing about any of this development stuff.
cobraboy85 said:
except for freeza.... i am still trolling you.... on a regular basis. lulz
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^^^ most important part of your OP...
:sidenote: your like the XDA ghandi >>
"be the change"
/trollio
EDIT: I applied to be a mod (again) - and I'm all about reducing the jackassery around here. If accepted, I'll do what I can
zone23 said:
Every time I see someone say "cool story bro" I add them to my ignore list. Just added another..
That said XDA has gone steadily down hill. I remember when I first came here I was actually afraid to post. Now XDA is so addicted to member counts that they let just about anything go. Had a guy yesterday asking how to hack Amazon this is the crowd being attracted now. Its a shame and like many others i'm looking for the next XDA. Problems is the asses will just following. BTW I have no idea what the OP posted because he is already on my ignore list as it the poster below him now.
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Yes, the "an answer is easily found by a very fast google search but I'm too lazy to do it or just expect you tell me" crowd is the problem I agree. Even if they are not the majority, when I see a new thread or question that seems like an easy find, I get really mad because I had to take the time to learn and search on my own. I've been on here since 2006 and I guess because of all the new androids out there you get people who are not technologically inclined trying to do technicological things.
However, I agree it has gotten out of control, and the mods are unwilling or unable to do anything about the newbs or the a%*holes that are attacking devs when they know nothing about any of this development stuff.
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il Duce said:
^^^ most important part of your OP...
:sidenote: your like the XDA ghandi >>
"be the change"
/trollio
EDIT: I applied to be a mod (again) - and I'm all about reducing the jackassery around here. If accepted, I'll do what I can
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/pulls out soap box and stands on it
first off you wouldnt believe the amount of buttholes and douchebags mods put up with on a daily basis. most often we only get called in when there is a problem, so everyone wants to talk about how things have changed and how it sucks putting up with the idiots. put on mod glasses, i would 75% of the people on here, instead of just reporting a troll or a n00b posting in the wrong spot or a spammer, they in turn flame, troll, spam the person that just needs reporting. so that means, we then have to clean everything back up, figure out who to get rid of and sort the whole situation. its not fun. if you want to see things change, be the change. report posts, dont flame the idiots, dont feed the trolls, just move on with your day. we arent afraid to boot people, we arent about "registration numbers", we are about supporting developers. but we cant be in every thread at once or all the time. if you see something out of place, report it, everyone has that ability. but most of us just return the favor of flaming people.
i became a mod, because i believed that a difference could be made. i reported posts, before i was a mod, i was helpful to people, i tried to teach n00bs the correct way of doing things instead of treating them like trash. yes there is an over abundance of users now due to the influx of android devices, most of the new users dont know anything, and they wont ever learn anything if we all are douchebags to them.
if XDA is becoming something that it wasnt in the past, its because we as a user base are allowing it to be so. be a respectful user, help people out, if someone is doing something they arent supposed to report them. serisously, how are we supposed to know whats going on if we arent notified?
/steps off soap box
I think a large problem too is it really does feel like the mods play favorites. I don't want to bring up the whole Chad.Goodman thing, and how he was reported and pulled in a matter of hours, yet, when he reported other non-GPL complying dev's nothing was done to them. Or my own situation, having important threads detailing hostile actions from one particular user being deleted without any reply or communication from a mod as to why. That user having no repercussion for his actions.. It's really feels that it's not an equal ground forum a lot of the time.
felacio said:
I think a large problem too is it really does feel like the mods play favorites. I don't want to bring up the whole Chad.Goodman thing, and how he was reported and pulled in a matter of hours, yet, when he reported other non-GPL complying dev's nothing was done to them. Or my own situation, having important threads detailing hostile actions from one particular user being deleted without any reply or communication from a mod as to why. That user having no repercussion for his actions.. It's really feels that it's not an equal ground forum a lot of the time.
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i agree that it may feel like that sometimes, and sometimes mods need to do a better job in communicating. users will not however see everything that goes on behind the scenes. if we infract someone we dont broadcast it, its really no one else's business if i infract you, thats why other users cant see other peoples infractions. if you dont like the way a mod handled something, ask him (or her) how/why they did what they did. dont be hostile about it, just pose a question. i know we are more than willing to talk to users about their issues, and come to the best possible resolve.
So, let's be honest. I'm not exactly the most popular person on this specific forum.
A lot of you know me for my rather-- well, let's put it kindly, firm opinions when it comes to Apple being discussed here.
That being said, an apology to quite a few of you is in order. Let's face it, all niceties aside, I've made quite a few posts that make me sound like an almighty dickhead, and I admit it, I went overboard. What started out as me being quite protective of the developers on XDA who gives us all we flash kind of gave me a bit of an ego, and I've been quite rude to people who don't really deserve it.
The truth is simple; I love Android. The only reason I'm on this forum is because I love Android. While I may disagree with other users' opinions on Apple, I really should be going about expressing those opinions in a much more constructive way, because reading through my own posts, I can see where I've used phrases or figures of speech that the situation really didn't call for. I've used profanity in many posts even though XDA very much does not allow it.
I've had a specific way of posting for quite some time, and I'd like to change that. I mean, we're all here because of a common interest, right? I'd like to enjoy the company of people who have found happiness in the same things I have. It's really not in my place to tell any of you what to think or what opinions you have, and for that, I am truly sorry for attacking any of you.
I'd like to make this clear; no moderators or staff members asked me to make this post. This isn't the result of two infractions which I've received (which I admit, I deserved). This apology is because I want to remain a part of this community and the way I treat some of you is just not acceptable. In my line of work (in real life), if I talked to any one in the same way which I've talked to some of you, I would be instantly fired.
So here's my resolution. I'd like to make a promise to approach situations with a far, far more respectful and professional manner. I'd like to live up to my Recognized Developer name (as well as put out a few things which I've slowly been working on). Right now, I don't feel deserving of my title, and I want to change how I act to reflect that fact I'd like to keep it.
So in the future, you can expect me to mellow down quite a bit. You can expect me to remain as polite as possible, and to make my posts as informative and as useful as they can possibly be. You can expect me to not be condescending, and you can expect all these things because you shouldn't expect anything less than that from me.
In short; I've been a jackass. Solution: stop being a jackass. :good:
Thanks for reading this.
Sounds like a good solution to me! lol, welcome back from the world of the insane.
LiquidSolstice said:
So, let's be honest. I'm not exactly the most popular person on this specific forum.
A lot of you know me for my rather-- well, let's put it kindly, firm opinions when it comes to Apple being discussed here.
That being said, an apology to quite a few of you is in order. Let's face it, all niceties aside, I've made quite a few posts that make me sound like an almighty dickhead, and I admit it, I went overboard. What started out as me being quite protective of the developers on XDA who gives us all we flash kind of gave me a bit of an ego, and I've been quite rude to people who don't really deserve it.
The truth is simple; I love Android. The only reason I'm on this forum is because I love Android. While I may disagree with other users' opinions on Apple, I really should be going about expressing those opinions in a much more constructive way, because reading through my own posts, I can see where I've used phrases or figures of speech that the situation really didn't call for. I've used profanity in many posts even though XDA very much does not allow it.
I've had a specific way of posting for quite some time, and I'd like to change that. I mean, we're all here because of a common interest, right? I'd like to enjoy the company of people who have found happiness in the same things I have. It's really not in my place to tell any of you what to think or what opinions you have, and for that, I am truly sorry for attacking any of you.
I'd like to make this clear; no moderators or staff members asked me to make this post. This isn't the result of two infractions which I've received (which I admit, I deserved). This apology is because I want to remain a part of this community and the way I treat some of you is just not acceptable. In my line of work (in real life), if I talked to any one in the same way which I've talked to some of you, I would be instantly fired.
So here's my resolution. I'd like to make a promise to approach situations with a far, far more respectful and professional manner. I'd like to live up to my Recognized Developer name (as well as put out a few things which I've slowly been working on). Right now, I don't feel deserving of my title, and I want to change how I act to reflect that fact I'd like to keep it.
So in the future, you can expect me to mellow down quite a bit. You can expect me to remain as polite as possible, and to make my posts as informative and as useful as they can possibly be. You can expect me to not be condescending, and you can expect all these things because you shouldn't expect anything less than that from me.
In short; I've been a jackass. Solution: stop being a jackass. :good:
Thanks for reading this.
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You've always been good in my book. :beer:
"Hey, that's not a bug, that's a feature!" Linus Torvalds, 2001
LiquidSolstice said:
So, let's be honest. I'm not exactly the most popular person on this specific forum.
A lot of you know me for my rather-- well, let's put it kindly, firm opinions when it comes to Apple being discussed here.
That being said, an apology to quite a few of you is in order. Let's face it, all niceties aside, I've made quite a few posts that make me sound like an almighty dickhead, and I admit it, I went overboard. What started out as me being quite protective of the developers on XDA who gives us all we flash kind of gave me a bit of an ego, and I've been quite rude to people who don't really deserve it.
The truth is simple; I love Android. The only reason I'm on this forum is because I love Android. While I may disagree with other users' opinions on Apple, I really should be going about expressing those opinions in a much more constructive way, because reading through my own posts, I can see where I've used phrases or figures of speech that the situation really didn't call for. I've used profanity in many posts even though XDA very much does not allow it.
I've had a specific way of posting for quite some time, and I'd like to change that. I mean, we're all here because of a common interest, right? I'd like to enjoy the company of people who have found happiness in the same things I have. It's really not in my place to tell any of you what to think or what opinions you have, and for that, I am truly sorry for attacking any of you.
I'd like to make this clear; no moderators or staff members asked me to make this post. This isn't the result of two infractions which I've received (which I admit, I deserved). This apology is because I want to remain a part of this community and the way I treat some of you is just not acceptable. In my line of work (in real life), if I talked to any one in the same way which I've talked to some of you, I would be instantly fired.
So here's my resolution. I'd like to make a promise to approach situations with a far, far more respectful and professional manner. I'd like to live up to my Recognized Developer name (as well as put out a few things which I've slowly been working on). Right now, I don't feel deserving of my title, and I want to change how I act to reflect that fact I'd like to keep it.
So in the future, you can expect me to mellow down quite a bit. You can expect me to remain as polite as possible, and to make my posts as informative and as useful as they can possibly be. You can expect me to not be condescending, and you can expect all these things because you shouldn't expect anything less than that from me.
In short; I've been a jackass. Solution: stop being a jackass. :good:
Thanks for reading this.
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i didnt notice u being a jackass?!!!! but i accept bro!! anyone who takes the time to sit and write up an appolagy......deserves acceptance of appolagy. i 2 can sometimes act a fool, thinking of ludacris act a fool bobbing head....lol! anyways we all can, its in our manly nature! welcome back bro! the new and improved u, and maybe others will follow that read this. as will i!
Very noble of you, sir. I really respect your ownership of the situation and willingness to change. A lot of us could learn from this...
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Just incredible. I have been fairly drama free but some of my old teammates at Android Creative Syndicate (where I was a Site admin) are pretty mad with me too cause I have also done some wrong things in dealing with my exit from that Site and starting my own. Takes a man to admit when he was wrong and you have inspired me tonight to find some people and make amends. I'm being totally serious to this inspired me. It's huge and I appreciate it. Ty much
Kid
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It's all gravy brotha. We are all here for a common interest, may as well make the best of it. Takes a cool dude to admit wrong and apologize..
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LS take some balls for a person in your position on this Site to post a public apology. No one's perfect man. You've given a lot to the community. I'm sure I. Due time, the people who don't know ow you will see that dedication. Good job man.
Jo
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You never offended me but apology accepted. Takes a real man with some stones to do what you did. Good on ya.
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I mean, we're all here because of a common interest, right? I'd like to enjoy the company of people who have found happiness in the same things I have. .
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Indeed you are correct sir. Infact Ive made a new pretty awesome friend through these forums. Infact we went disc golfing the other day. Had a great time with someone that has similar interests as I. I look forward to hanging out with him again and look forward to meeting more of you fine people on here. The world is a POS and its nice to be a part of a community that bonds together through similar struggles and endevors. Though its gonna suck in 8 - 12 months when people start jumping ship to the next phone. Until then LETS ROCK THIS MOTHER FATHER!
I'm not sure wth happened, but I still have a ton of respect for you LS, for doing this. As long as I've been here, I have Iseen, and even myself partook in some heated/uncalled for "debates" on XDA but never have I seen anybody sincerely apologize for their mistakes on this forum. I honestly feel that the way we treat people online in mostly anonymous situations like forums shows a lot about our true personalities and morals even when regarding reality...We just tend to bring out the parts online that we're afraid to act on and do because we know how we'd be perceived in reality.
Much respect man.
Good thing i read the last sentence first
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Iv learned something lately in dealing w/a really wonderful humanbeing who's addiction makes her not such a nice person....Think long n hard b4 you let what comes outta yer mouth. You dnt knw what the other persons been through n that could really hurt em more than you possibly know. No matter how much ppl get under your skin or say what you perceive as ignorant....speak to em as a wise man/teacher. Maybe they have no idea and could learn from your teachings something positive to pass along to others
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I have to say I enjoy reading your debates like Kao and the other poster (sorry, on ltevo app, afraid I will lose typed info if I look).
When u feel u need to challenge fact or opinion for that matter then please do. I come here to learn about the things u may take for granted as a dev.
Disagreeing for the sake of disagreeing makes u a ****. Disagreeing on principle makes u a respectable ****. Or somewhere along those lines.
The line needs to be drawn somewhere I suppose. Don't lose sight of questioning what u should though. This country is going to the ****ter bc we as a whole have allowed it to happen.
Well, I better end this here before I end up being the **** of your apology thread for starting a debate on China being our daddy.
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You're good in my book, because I'm an ass too.
And my post was erased. Good god, are we men or what here? Mods sure love covering up things round here
LT. EVO reporting sir!!!
KaoMinerva said:
And my post was erased. Good god, are we men or what here? Mods sure love covering up things round here
LT. EVO reporting sir!!!
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Don't make this thread into trash.
Final warning.
Cool cool! :beer:
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How commerable. Very impressive friend. May you keep strong in your desires
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It takes a better man to ignore and oversee stupid childish comments in any forum or in public. Sounds like you have become the better man. Much respect.
via eVo.
Ive been a follower of yours since the Heroc forum liquid. Ive nevrr known you to throw out anything that wasnt deserved. That being said, It takes a pretty big man to throw out an apology of actions like you did here. You have always had my respect and for this that respect has grown that much more. Thanks for the example you have set here sir. Later ,,,,,,
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