hey folks, just want to discuss with as many as possible what they think about the fact that almost no custom roms for dual sim devices are available.
i personally don't think that i shall trade the great choice of mods, roms and kernels for the "oneplus 2" i was totally convinced to get one as soon as my invites will drop in,
the dual sim feature was even one of the main things i was looking forward to since i currently have to manage 6 devices with sim cards from around the world!
but just recently the worrying fact that there are almost no or very few mods, custom roms and kernels, specifically for dual sim devices crossed my mind.
i mean roms which let you manage the dual sim capability the same way like the stock rom. of course one can use only one sim slot but then what sense does it
make to have a dual sim device when you can use only one sim instead of both and the way they are supposed to. one example would be to have one sim for data with incoming calls blocked and another for calls only and mobile data off.
for those who think why the heck one would want that, my example is that i never make and receive phone calls on my motorbike, but as well don't want to stop every other kilometer to answer a call, but need the device for navigation online and offline as to my liking and want to make use of the different plans which favour either calls or data.
what do all of you think about this disconcerting find, i mean after all we're on XDA, the community of mods, custom roms, rooting and whathaveyou ?
Well there is no void warranty on unlocking bootloader . a plus point .
Also,I have seen a great development for Yureka and Yuphoria,both are dual sims and 64 bit too .. Similar to op2 also both are cheap ..
Only difference in yureka and Yuphoria with op2 is Cyanogen ... So I expect great development on op2 too . As of now,I know 3 developers for opo coming to op2 for sure and I expect a lot more to come . Development might be less than OPO because of Nexus 5 coming but it will not be much less .. So I think you should buy it !!
Naman Bhalla said:
Well there is no void warranty on unlocking bootloader . a plus point .
Also,I have seen a great development for Yureka and Yuphoria,both are dual sims and 64 bit too .. Similar to op2 also both are cheap ..
Only difference in yureka and Yuphoria with op2 is Cyanogen ... So I expect great development on op2 too . As of now,I know 3 developers for opo coming to op2 for sure and I expect a lot more to come . Development might be less than OPO because of Nexus 5 coming but it will not be much less .. So I think you should buy it !!
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let's hope so, thanks for joining, i'm not so sure, especially should CM not go for it which could well be after what happened. most and certainly the very best custom roms are based on cm, so let's see
hope dies the last LOL :highfive:
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let's hope so, thanks for joining, i'm not so sure, especially should CM not go for it which could well be after what happened. most and certainly the very best custom roms are based on cm, so let's see
hope dies the last LOL :highfive:
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Well Blisspop came to Yureka even before CM came ... So expect the same with OP2 .... And CyanogenMod will definitely be available for OP2 .. It is available for Samsung too then why not it ? It has nothing to do with what happened with Cyngn .. Rest assured .. A lot development is coming ..[emoji6]
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BTW ROMs for Yureka are even more than OPO .... It made me once think to swap opo for Yureka but then my opo broke ....
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Well Blisspop came to Yureka even before CM came ... So expect the same with OP2 .... And CyanogenMod will definitely be available for OP2 .. It is available for Samsung too then why not it ? It has nothing to do with what happened with Cyngn .. Rest assured .. A lot development is coming ..[emoji6]
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BTW ROMs for Yureka are even more than OPO .... It made me once think to swap opo for Yureka but then my opo broke ....
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ok, your word in the "lords" ears haha..... i hope so really because if not that would be a no go, bliss or RR it must be, else i'd buy another "ONE"
CM has included codes for dual sim version.So I hope development will be there
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good to know
RISHI RAJ said:
CM has included codes for dual sim version.So I hope development will be there
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thanks for the information, perhaps they are going to keep up with the fact that more devices, especially chinese ones, were recently launched with dual sim, even the new moto x is available with dual sim as an option, thanks for the heads up.
Correlation doesn't equal causation, right? I'ts possible the dual-SIM devices in existence weren't appealing to developers for a variety of reasons, not necessarily BECAUSE they are dual-SIM.
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Correlation doesn't equal causation, right? I'ts possible the dual-SIM devices in existence weren't appealing to developers for a variety of reasons, not necessarily BECAUSE they are dual-SIM.
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thanks for providing your point of view. i agree to the first part and would agree to the last part of your post as well if only the number of available roms wouldn't be so close to zero and there certainly are and were good ( appealing ) devices with dual sim.
however i feared that it might be technical reasons, means a lot more of work without having the great community, one indeed has to assume that it has to do with demand. so far so good, that would go hand in hand with what others posted and i tend to be hopeful
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thanks for providing your point of view. i agree to the first part and would agree to the last part of your post as well if only the number of available roms wouldn't be so close to zero and there certainly are and were good ( appealing ) devices with dual sim.
however i feared that it might be technical reasons, means a lot more of work without having the great community, one indeed has to assume that it has to do with demand. so far so good, that would go hand in hand with what others posted and i tend to be hopeful
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For sure. And my post is not in any way based on knowledge of hte devices in question or developing for dual-SIM devices, so you very well may be right. But until you find something thta specifically says "dual-SIM makes it too difficult to develop".... I wouldn't draw too many conclusions / freak out too bad.
Worst case, wait a couple months after the device is released and see how development looks before biting the bullet. Demand will hopefully have cooled by then anyway. The struggle of the early adopter....
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thanks for providing your point of view. i agree to the first part and would agree to the last part of your post as well if only the number of available roms wouldn't be so close to zero and there certainly are and were good ( appealing ) devices with dual sim.
however i feared that it might be technical reasons, means a lot more of work without having the great community, one indeed has to assume that it has to do with demand. so far so good, that would go hand in hand with what others posted and i tend to be hopeful
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I have something very good in plan to bring a lot of developers to the OP2 ... Just wait and watch .. And at the moment I can confirm 2 ROMs and 1 Kernel already .. Won't disclose the names but the Kernel is available for Nexus 5 too and the same developer develops another ROM for the Nexus 5 ,the ROM that is available for OPO too . And second is a ROM that is among the most famous ROMs for the One and many Nexus' too .. Not in Original Android Development [emoji6]
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I have something very good in plan to bring a lot of developers to the OP2 ... Just wait and watch .. And at the moment I can confirm 2 ROMs and 1 Kernel already .. Won't disclose the names but the Kernel is available for Nexus 5 too and the same developer develops another ROM for the Nexus 5 ,the ROM that is available for OPO too . And second is a ROM that is among the most famous ROMs for the One and many Nexus' too .. Not in Original Android Development [emoji6]
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C...K..... LOL
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C...K..... LOL
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C?K？ Just say it loud!:good:
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C?K？ Just say it loud!:good:
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sorry but if he points out that he's not gonna mention the name ( not time yet ) it's not up to me to do that
further i'm guessing, so let's just see what will happen, keeps the tension and alertness high LOL
As long as the interest level is there, the development will be there, so there's nothing to worry about. There's healthy support for the Dual-SIM varient of Moto G 2014 for example.
I was totally in to buy this phone. But no development would be a killer for me. It never crossed my mind there wouldn't be as the is so much for the One. I use slim rom, and would want it on the Two.
Android 5.1 adds native support for dual SIM, so it should be easier to develop for devices than before, especially for those that ship with 5.1 like the 1+2.
BTW [emoji9]
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yeah, preferences and tastes are different but honestly speaking i'll never understand what exactly all the whiners find ugly with this device, the more often i see it, the more i think that we gonna have a real beauty here, at least i like that style. from all my phones and there are quite a few, i like the nexus 5's simple clean look the most, no fancy stuff, just a workstation which is exactly what it is thanks for the pics :good:
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yeah, preferences and tastes are different but honestly speaking i'll never understand what exactly all the whiners find ugly with this device, the more often i see it, the more i think that we gonna have a real beauty here, at least i like that style. from all my phones and there are quite a few, i like the nexus 5's simple clean look the most, no fancy stuff, just a workstation which is exactly what it is thanks for the pics :good:
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Exactly.. Same. More I see it, more I fall in love with the device.. Beauty it is. With all the features I need and use.. And price is just amazing.
Nexus 5 I never used but the device seemed amazing...
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how many firmwares, can xda devs firms ware, when the firm they wear, cares not for warez?
ok - delete this... o.. maybe not...
44.44% would rather have one single GingerBread ROM over anything else, excellent!
Keep the vote's rolling, let's find out what people really want!
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delete this
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What was that? It makes me even more excited since it's deleted
hehe, to bad you deleted the first post, it was very well said
MrHassell said:
how many firmwares, can xda devs firms ware, when the firm they wear, cares not for warez?
ok - delete this...
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What?-....-........
Delete lame 'roms' - firmware stools
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What was that? It makes me even more excited since it's deleted
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Well half these firmwares could be deleted here and nobody would notice. There is some kind of trend to spit out firmwares, confuse people calling them ROM's and act like it's in the name of progress?
Where I sit, all this cloning is not flattering, it's more akin to theft and I'm sick of seeing all these useless crap ware - camera doesn't work - because you copied J? Z? - Oh where did you get that Cyanogen Mod from.. etc.. ha
Took a bit from here and bit from there... rebadged, rebranded, lifted, ripped - whatever.. it's funny for 5 minutes but it's just happening more and more and becoming - BORING!
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hehe, to bad you deleted the first post, it was very well said
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...or not...
he`s half right about what he wrote.
obviously the ones and only that made a "almost fully" rom for ours x10, was/is Z, J and T.
but one interesting thing is. a few months ago, when i see this so called 2.1 roms never read anything about it. and they were called "rom".
i give that opinion on those times...nobody give a **** about that...
but if we go further, they don`t do any roms aswell. they pick some here, some there, mix all together and...hey, it worked...great.
the ONLY way we can have a TRUE custom rom is when we crack the f..k`in BL, untill now...
my understanding is:
this so called roms are...mod roms.
but thats just me
I think the Z J and trip are really developer.THX them
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Well half these firmwares could be deleted here and nobody would notice. There is some kind of trend to spit out firmwares, confuse people calling them ROM's and act like it's in the name of progress?
Where I sit, all this cloning is not flattering, it's more akin to theft and I'm sick of seeing all these useless crap ware - camera doesn't work - because you copied J? Z? - Oh where did you get that Cyanogen Mod from.. etc.. ha
Took a bit from here and bit from there... rebadged, rebranded, lifted, ripped - whatever.. it's funny for 5 minutes but it's just happening more and more and becoming - BORING!
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Well I can understand your point of view, even if I don't share it. Giving the people possibilities to choose from isn't the worst thing. And by modding one "ROM" in many ways, a lot of heads think about solutions for bugs and problems. In that way it actually is in the name of progress
Regarding the word ROM: I think most xda users are used to have ROMs for their phones and since the different firmwares we have for the X10 behave like a ROM in most aspects, it would be more confusing to call them firmwares, even if it is more correct...
Too funny
Honestly, I really kicked a hornets nest here - haha - Wow!
It's not really about names, firmwares and roms, apples and oranges etc.. I'm just really perplexed by the sheer volume of unfinished projects some blatantly ripped without any credit to the authors and more than anything, the sheer uselessness of the majority.
It's great that people want to contribute something, so how about downloading the favorable 'rom' (if it makes you feel cool.. or whatever) and make your contribution and then ONE BETTER, instead of uploading the whole schamozzle of mish mash..
Just the mods' that matter? I.E; Changed the Framework-Res.apk and a few apps, then do what Sempeternal does and release an update.zip! - Include screen shots.. but the whole firmware for a theme.. seem's overkill..
Put this in context, not naming names here but I downloaded a GingerBread a while back and it had one single app.. aside from that it was a virgin clone of another guy's rom - with no credit or even value... and it's nearly every day I'm seeing someone pop up with another CM or something and it's actually.. distracting.
Personally I'm 150% behind the work of Z, J and Sempiternal (my favorite theme is the new HC) which looks awesome on any GB modified firmware, even on Eclair and Froyo.
That is what I'm talking about! - Semp really knows what time it is and releases amazing work, free of charge. Best of all across any flavour, without any nonsense! All killer - no filler
Ginger!
i would say gingerbread and a cyanogen brew (which J would start to cook up soon^^)
i mean, who doesn't want the latest version of the most powerful android rom?
Since this is a thread opened for discussion, allow me to do exactly that. The below is strictly my own opinion and not a rant and/or an attack aimed at anyone.
I'm extremely disappointed at the way things are moving in the X10 Dev section. There are dozens of unnecessary half cooked 'ROMs' that're of no practical use. The blind self-righteous and immature dev worshipping present in the thread is shockingly mind numbing. Ask questions, even valid ones, and you're swarmed by these retarded sheep who respond back with insults and personal digs. One user even told me to go buy another X10 when I supported another user who posted a question for the Dev. about the the newer basebands, especially since the Dev himself mentioned that the newer baseband support may [or may not] come. Regardless, the question was for the Dev. and not the sheep.
Just when I feel consoled read something that hints at *some* progress being made with the current firmware, I find myself reading another post, after a while, which takes on a completely different direction. The firmware suddenly gets dropped in favor of a newer/<some popular ROM> which, then, necessitates the Dev. to re-engage himself with the long list of functions and features that aren't working. In essence it means, we're back to ground zero. Why is that necessary? It's a fact that we aren't going to see a 100% functional port because of the locked bootloader - so wouldn't it make more sense to concentrate on just 1 firmware and make it as perfect as possible, with the omission of things that wouldn't be working due to the locked down bootloader?
I sincerely think we need just *2* FIRMWARE threads in the Dev. area - one for 2.3.x and one for 2.2.x. The CM additions can be easily had by installing the CM Settings app, the themes etc. on top of whichever edition one chooses. There's no need to have a complete 'ROM' uploaded with the same critical and few non critical issues.
I should reiterate, the above is simply my own opinion and is in no way a rant or an attack on anyone.
Yes too many rom. Devs should work together to make a perfect room than every dev make their own rom better.
There are developers... and chefs... devs develop the software. Cooks or chefs take ingredients or parts of software and mix or cook them. If you have been a long member of xda you would know that this has always been how it is for EVERY phone that is on this site... but more so this thread propably should be moved to a different section.
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It's never wrong to share. If you don't like it, just don't download. It's that simple.
And from what I see, credits are given where it's due. Many don't even ask for donation. And they don't pretend to be a dev like J, Z & T.
Yes these are mods & tweaks. But some really did a nice job - like wolfbreak's rom - it's fast and stable with a great look.
It's always good to have choices. IMO their threads are much more useful than this thread which contributes nothing.
Of course you don't have to agree with me and I don't have to agree with you
People on here seem to have the mistaken impression that if devs came together we would have a perfect rom instead of several roms that have bugs... That is not the case. We would just have less choice, the bugs would still remain, things like the camcorder and camera issues don't just get fixed overnight. It's nice to see peoples own twist on things, sad to see some people don't appreciate this..
cobrato said:
It's never wrong to share. If you don't like it, just don't download. It's that simple.
And from what I see, credits are given where it's due. Many don't even ask for donation. And they don't pretend to be a dev like J, Z & T.
Yes these are mods & tweaks. But some really did a nice job - like wolfbreak's rom - it's fast and stable with a great look.
It's always good to have choices. IMO their threads are much more useful than this thread which contributes nothing.
Of course you don't have to agree with me and I don't have to agree with you
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Agreed with u...
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I personally would like the developers and the site to do the following.
1. Sticky the First Rom post from each guy, and only allow him to update it and a second post.
2. All comments, questions regarding it should be in a separate thread of the same title appended with [Discussion], which should be culled (or have a strike through put the heading) from the system the moment the dev releases a new version.
I for one, can not go through hundreds or thousands of posts most of which are not relevant any longer to the current version of the firmware/baseband whatever update. IT's very intimidating, and onerous on the reader- even professional IT people. I can't imagine what someone from a non-technical bent sent here by someone - "Hey you can get an update for that at XDA!" thinks when they encounter some of these 2,000+ plus postings.
The developers should take a bit of responsibility and update the first or second posts with any new issues that crop up from the discussions. You should not have to read 50 posts in to a thread to find out that there is a step missing in the install or a new bug has been confirmed. I've burned two X10's myself due to bugs and unclear instructions that were later corrected.
Meanwhile, I'm happy to support with money these guys, even though I have not actually put a 'custom' firmware onto any of my phones. I have put/used the tools that have been provided to do other things like JIT and rooting/updating SE firmware. I am looking forward to seeing a fully functional update to give me some of the things that are not available in 2.1 so I can get better applications. I think that not having some items like Hotspot, Tether and even 16m color on the display which require kernel updates are not that important since tether/hotspot can be added via applications in the market.
I don't think there can be a better example of why we don't need random people come up with ROMs [they're firmwares, NOT ROMs]
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11669817&postcount=97
In that thread, the main issue is not about giving or not giving credits, it's about calling oneself a 'Chef' and delivering half baked results which ultimately causes grief when users don't receive solutions to their legitimate queries/firmware related problems.
Good Evening All
I know this might be discussed before in few threads but the reason I'm posting this thread is to have the answers from the developers themselves about the difficulties they're facing to port Sense UI ( 4.0 for example ) to our beloved SGS 2 and why their is no attempt to do it.
Updates 24-05-2012
Developers are going crazy
check these websites:-
http://www.sense4all.nazuka.net/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1678663
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1533931
I believe we have a great code reverse engineers as well as great kernel developers and plenty of resources out there ,,, what we are waiting for ?!!
Please devs kindly give it a try and help us,,,,
Updates 16-05-2012 by Quebe2 and Coenjte44 big thanks to them
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1657050
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Swamp goblin a great developer is working in the shadows to create an amazing HTC sense based SGS II ROM !!!!
Now in Nexus S development thread, two developers namely Qube2 and swamp goblin are working so hard to port Sense 4.0 !!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1502895
Qube2 did successfully port Sense 2.1 to Nexus S !!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1490709
Mkalter from SGS 1 thread is trying his best to port to SGS !!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1593939
I believe that our SGS II is the most device world wildly used. Also it has better hardware and better developer community.
What I need is the developers' comments, not only the ones who are interested on Sense UI but also the ones who are not but they have their theories in which they explain why porting Sense UI is difficult, non achievable or waste of time.
Thanx
Sorry for the bad grammer. English isn't really my native language.
P.S. For users like me, respectfully don't flood this thread with posts that won't answer my question in details ( like; if you want sense UI buy HTC device !! ). I need the developers to kindly gather here and post their opinions, experiences and may be their pre-alphas
My Question was moved to Q/A subforum ,, I did post it in general subforum intentionally because of it is really hot area and it may attract developers. I hope it won't be got lost here. Thanx Crachel
To be honest, most developers don't browse around here (as they are busy with their own thing)... but testing Sense UI myself on several phones.. it's laggy and a resource hog. Sure it looks nice, but it's not better than a few others (especially since ICS)- and most often people want things to be more speedy.
Perhaps a hardcore developer will come and give you more details on what they like or don't like about it. Good luck.
PS
Apex launcher fast and smooth
Most of the users here want stock as possible. I dont know why. I study now android development and yes i want Sense UI to at my Phone because i used HTC HD2 with RafDroids HD revolution it had sense. So give a lil bit at any day at any time there will be a sense SGS 2... But Stock ICS with GO Launcher rocks too :-D
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Because it's crap & unnecessary, as Cyberboob more politely intimated than I did.
I think it's down to purely pragmatic reasons.
Say a dev owns a HTC device. What's more practical for him/her (never know, female devs could exist..)? Modify Sense on a phone he/she owns, or decide that TouchWiz is great and spend hours trying to port that instead?
Ergo the same holds true for devs whom own the SGS2.
As cyberboob said, you're unlikely to see any devs on this subforum, and in my opinion they don't need to explain or justify any decision they make anyway - their work, their choice. It's not a democracy here, and that's the way it should be.
And MistahBungle is right too, he just forgot "overponcey bloatware"...
And much more importantly, I'd like to take this opportunity to congratulate myself on my 1000th post.
I know that sense is just like any other UI out there but I think weather, twitter and Facebook implementation as well as the animations of HTC sense are far better than go , apex and other UI launchers.
Now being laggy or buggy is something I really wanna wait to comment on but first we wanna test it.
I'm resisting to buy HTC one X and to give up on my SGS II because I believe in that our developers are capable to create a powerful and better performing android OS on SGS II that with HTC sense UI would be better than any HTC device.
Back to main subject we need developer's opinion in porting HTC sense UI based roms to our SGS II.
I wish moderators here would kindly move this thread to any subforum in which devs are more likely to see and comment or may be to contribute to this subject.
Thanx all for replying.
There was a dev thread...it got closed due to spam posts
[PROJECT] [PORT] HTC Sense UI 3.0 [ WORK IN PROGRESS ]
Hahaha I did.
Congrats on the 1000th mate *applauds*
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And MistahBungle is right too, he just forgot "overponcey bloatware"...
And much more importantly, I'd like to take this opportunity to congratulate myself on my 1000th post.
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The thing is that not many devs are interested in doing that here.
It is called as a resource hog but still there are users like me who would want to see such a thing happen.
Well in the end its on the devs. Not much we can do about it, just support them by donations and reporting bugs.
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The thing is that not many devs are interested in doing that here.
It is called as a resource hog but still there are users like me who would want to see such a thing happen.
Well in the end its on the devs. Not much we can do about it, just support them by donations and reporting bugs.
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Yeah I'll surely donate but we need somebody who actually start porting it. Not only me you will see a bunch of people who are willing/will donate to this project.
Peace.
In my opinion sense 3 is ugly and Sense 4 isn't any diffrent from fror exsample go launcher
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@Makrilli.
You haven't tried it, I believe
Anyway, this thread for people who are interested not only in using sense IU but also to contribute positively to it.
peace.
Oweida said:
@Makrilli.
You haven't tried it, I believe
Anyway, this thread for people who are interested not only in using sense IU but also to contribute positively to it.
peace.
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Judged by the number of Sense threads two points are plain one HTC users want it on SGS2 and two nearly a year down the line and it must be to difficult to port .
Which points to the simple fact that SGS2 devs dont want to port it or have found to many stumbling blocks to make it worth while .Probably the later is the big reason why no sense .
jje
Good day everybody
No developers yet !!
Obviously, this subform has less developer activity
Peace
Plenty of devs read Q&A.
It's a crap idea as has already been said Think about it. You're a dev...you have a job, a family, other interests. You have a choice say, between developing/maintaining something like a kernel or a rom (or an app even) which hundreds/thousands/tens of thousands of people will appreciate, use & offer feedback on, which will be an ongoing thing...
Or you port a UI from another device to please a couple of dozen fanboys of said different device which is both ugly (just my opinion) & consumes a crapload of device resources/isn't 'efficient'.
I know what I'd be doing.
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No developers yet !!
Obviously, this subform has less developer activity
Peace
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Of course it has less developer activity - as has been pointed out to you at least twice.
To repeat - devs just don't post on this subforum, for the reasons stated earlier. They may read it, but why would they post here.
Try searching for how many "recognised developers" have posted in Q&A previously. Do you really think they're going to ask us normal punters tecnical questions??
To be frank, you're flogging a dead horse. No debate on the subject is forthcoming, no-one seems to be trying to actively port Sense, and no discussion is going to change that.
Give it up.
B3311 said:
Of course it has less developer activity - as has been pointed out to you at least twice.
To repeat - devs just don't post on this subforum, for the reasons stated earlier. They may read it, but why would they post here.
Try searching for how many "recognised developers" have posted in Q&A previously. Do you really think they're going to ask us normal punters tecnical questions??
To be frank, you're flogging a dead horse. No debate on the subject is forthcoming, no-one seems to be trying to actively port Sense, and no discussion is going to change that.
Give it up.
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I really feel sad about this. The good thing is HTC has released it's miracle HTC one X which has both powerful hardware and amazing software and may be I will buy it
Thanx All for replying.
Peace
Please Forum moderator move this thread to the discussion sub forum ,,,,
Peace
Please administrators/moderators move this topic to general forum , maybe it will get somebody's attention.
yes most the sgs2 users need sense 4 on their sgs2 i also want to see sense 4 on my sgs2
Hey people
i have Z2 since 2 month and i have a question.
Why the Z2 has low support from developers in XDA? I mean, for example, if we compared HTC One M8 development section to the Z2 development section, i believe M8 has maybe 5 times more support than Z2!.
same for S5 - G3 ,etc
The Z2 is considered one of the most powerful android smartphones and on the top of android devices, released from long time, has a twin which is "Z3", that should increase the Z2,Z3 wining points and it's cheap!
I Can't find a reason for that. it makes me worry about my phone if Sony stopped releasing updates to it
Thanks
Some obvious reasons: it's not popular, it's Sony (self explanatory) so it's normal to have less dev interest, Z3/Z3 Compact is a better phone for many ppl, some Z2 have locked bootloaders so that kills a bit of interest and possibility. And despite that the Z2 has plenty of developers working on it. Dunno what you're worrying about.
In my personal opinion as a *Dev/ROM maker/call it as you like*, I think that this device is already a very well made. Performance of mobile smartphones these days are far better than before (I call myself as a Dev of these section for Z2, but I've made only one ROM, pretty funny xD). When I was very regular person in Xperia X10/Play/Neo V/J sections, there was a work to do. Even after when some older flagships become abbandoned by Sony with updates, many people ported some things from newer smartphones. For now, Z2 is nearly the newer flagship, only Z3 came out, which is - in my opinion - not so big different than Z2 (of course it's fresh and more popular cause of marketing etc. [read: money]). Moreover, Android is now very good on strong devices, we have Seeder and Greenify, Xposed and many more basical, user-friendly apps. All we need (I think that way, sorry I always prefer minimalistic) fast, responsive and clean system as a base, then some additional apps or scripts (possible by envoirnment I wrote a while ago) and that's all . Sorry if this is too chaotic post, or didn't in your style of thinking - I just shared mine. Cheers pal!
PS: and the same as CrashTestDroid said - I think we DO have plenty of devs and nice community - looking at Z3 sections - it's smaller a lot .
I think it's because this phone is brilliant out of the box.
My previous phones I've flashed countless ROMs etc but I haven't felt the need to mod the Z2 at all.
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The phone works good with stock so no need for roms
i guess samsung/lg/htc sell much more phones than sony, and that's probably the reason their communities are bigger.
more dev's doesn't mean more quality anyway, albeit small we do have great dev's coding for our sony devices and a very helpful community here on xda. we have all kinds of roms, kernels, multi roms, recoveries, very creative xposed mods, flashable custom mods, themes, fonts... what else do you need?
imho it's a great device and a great community already
HTC don't sell more phones than Sony. LG, Sony, Motorola sells around 9-10 million phones per quarter. HTC don't publish the sales figures, they previously head though. (self explainary).
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The reason is simple. Stock ROM is already awesome and Xperias are popular is the pacific - not much developers residing there.
Hi
Well the Z2 forum have alot developers, and we doing a great job around here, and okay the M8 forum etc have more support well that is maybe a reason to fix the stuff inside those roms and the Z2 is just great out of the box with less small bugs, so no need to worry because we have also a life to but that dont say we aren't here, we are always here to keep an eye on those great forum ^^
Sent From Somewhere On Earth With My Z2 ^^
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I think it's because this phone is brilliant out of the box.
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+1
No need custom rom!
WOW, i didn't expect that number of comments.
i am really grateful for you guys you made me love my phone even more
i was asking for why it has low number of roms because i was having Note 2 and i was installing a new rom every 2 days .. i love trying new roms and adding new stuff to the phone.
but as you said, the case here is different. the Z2 is perfect without any rom.
sadly the only problem i face is i can't root the Z2 cause of the bootloader lock. there are too many mods i want to try but i don't want to unlock the BL. "don't want to lose camera quality nor the noise cancellation".
again, thank you all for helping
you can root without bootloader unlock
check the prf creator thread near the top of the general section
and as of my testing noise canceling doesnt break, only X-Reality, supervivid, Bionz and Some Xperia Services Such as Playstation remote play
Envious_Data said:
you can root without bootloader unlock
check the prf creator thread near the top of the general section
and as of my testing noise canceling doesnt break, only X-Reality, supervivid, Bionz and Some Xperia Services Such as Playstation remote play
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you meen this? if yes, thanks i'll try it
Yes.
It explains how to obtain root on the latest firmware
Another thing to keep in mind - to my knowledge the Xperia Z2 was never picked up by any of the US carriers. Therefore it had very little presence in USA.
Having 200 nearly identicals ROM is useless.
Other brands doesn't have more devs, they have more users who are mixing things they found to do ROM.
All main ROM are done, CM, AOSP, Paranoïd, ...
Also great stock base one. [emoji2]
In conclusion, quality is better than quantity.
DiKeJ said:
In my personal opinion as a *Dev/ROM maker/call it as you like*, I think that this device is already a very well made. Performance of mobile smartphones these days are far better than before (I call myself as a Dev of these section for Z2, but I've made only one ROM, pretty funny xD). When I was very regular person in Xperia X10/Play/Neo V/J sections, there was a work to do. Even after when some older flagships become abbandoned by Sony with updates, many people ported some things from newer smartphones. For now, Z2 is nearly the newer flagship, only Z3 came out, which is - in my opinion - not so big different than Z2 (of course it's fresh and more popular cause of marketing etc. [read: money]). Moreover, Android is now very good on strong devices, we have Seeder and Greenify, Xposed and many more basical, user-friendly apps. All we need (I think that way, sorry I always prefer minimalistic) fast, responsive and clean system as a base, then some additional apps or scripts (possible by envoirnment I wrote a while ago) and that's all . Sorry if this is too chaotic post, or didn't in your style of thinking - I just shared mine. Cheers pal!
PS: and the same as CrashTestDroid said - I think we DO have plenty of devs and nice community - looking at Z3 sections - it's smaller a lot .
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DiKeJ my old friend, nice to see you here. :good:
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DiKeJ my old friend, nice to see you here. :good:
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@neoxx3m
Aah nice to see you here also buddy, long time ago like by @DiKeJ ^^
Sent From Somewhere On Earth With My Z2 ^^
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@neoxx3m
Aah nice to see you here also buddy, long time ago like by @DiKeJ ^^
Sent From Somewhere On Earth With My Z2 ^^
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And Pandemic aswell? Great day for me!
Hoho! Nearly like Christmas, so much happiness to see you guys here also . Long time huh . Was thinking about if anyone still remember me here, but even on Z2 community (where I relased only one work) there are still known people and old fellas . Much appreciated guys, hope you're well in your personal life and also have some free days for looking at XDA, more free time than me, though . Wish you all the best with your closer friends and families! Cheers!
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And Pandemic aswell? Great day for me!
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Yes bro @neoxx3m i have 2 a 3 months my Z2 and builed already a rom for it like for the XZ ^^
Yes for me either a great day
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Hoho! Nearly like Christmas, so much happiness to see you guys here also . Long time huh . Was thinking about if anyone still remember me here, but even on Z2 community (where I relased only one work) there are still known people and old fellas . Much appreciated guys, hope you're well in your personal life and also have some free days for looking at XDA, more free time than me, though . Wish you all the best with your closer friends and families! Cheers!
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Yes bro @DiKeJ indeed it looks like christmas restart again lol [emoji14]
Yes i still remember you like @neoxx3m my old fellas or better said good friends ^^
All good in my life, i have now for 2 a 3 months the XZ2 after leaving the old XP and XZ forums and have now also a son from 4 months old and all the best wishes to you also
Sent From Somewhere On Earth With My Z2 ^^
It seems HTC Company decided to not to update the T6 devices to Lilipop.
http://www.htc.com/us/go/htc-software-updates/
This device is currently on KitKat.
The HTC Eye Experience for this device is currently in the Development stage.
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WTH is the eye experience does that basically mean No lollipop ?
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brossma1 said:
WTH is the eye experience does that basically mean No lollipop ?
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No it's something with camera software I believe.
cstrife999 said:
No it's something with camera software I believe.
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Eye experience still is in developing stage but they stopped android 5 I think!
e12ror said:
Eye experience still is in developing stage but they stopped android 5 I think!
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Yea they are I was referring to the eye experience. Really a bummer as I just got my M9 and love the sense version of Lollipop.
e12ror said:
It seems HTC Company decided to not to update the T6 devices to Lilipop.
http://www.htc.com/us/go/htc-software-updates/
This device is currently on KitKat.
The HTC Eye Experience for this device is currently in the Development stage.
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Update between july and september ...
http://www.meltystyle.fr/android-5-...i-le-calendrier-des-mises-a-jour-a371941.html
Marcdu81 said:
Update between july and september ...
http://www.meltystyle.fr/android-5-...i-le-calendrier-des-mises-a-jour-a371941.html
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That report if from 3 months ago... Although I doubted it's cancellation at first it's confirmed.
Heartbreaking
cstrife999 said:
That report if from 3 months ago... Although I doubted it's cancellation at first it's confirmed.
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For Max owners such as myself it really is disheartening to see this. When scouting around the htc update site try selecting the m7. Guess what, the m7 is in the certification stage of lollipop. Now select the m8. Guess again, it is already on lollipop. The m9 comes with sense 7 and lollipop already on it. It seems to me that devs would at least have some manner in which to at least find a way to port these over to the max. Or at least one might think that.
For those who seem to get their "upgrades" just in time always seem to get the devices that htc (and especially Verizon) tend to leave behind. I myself upgraded from the Thunderbolt to the DNA and from that to the Max. All 3 of these devices were unlucky in the "love" department when it came to keeping them up to date.
NuSense 7 for the DNA by santod040 is quite possibly the best rom keeping that excellent device still alive for those still holding it. His work on the Thunderbolt was recognized for years as tireless and he has put together some great stuff.
But why the history lesson you might ask? It appears that timing has a way of getting the bulk of ownership to transfer to the newer devices while gladly taking away that data package from you. It almost appears that thousands who switched to these devices are intentionally left in the dust for capitalism to take its effects on us.
I will patiently hold on to my max as I patiently await developers like santod040 and flyhalf to find a way to get the screen, resolution, and dpi correct to run their amazing ports of lollipop and sense 7 to my max. I know good and well if I wait on Verizon and HTC to do it I would be turning 58 colors of purple right now from holding my breath!
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Eye experience still is in developing stage but they stopped android 5 I think!
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They didnt Stopped Android 5!
Eye Experience is a new feature and comes directly with Android Lollipop. Ask HTC Customer Service they tell you the same.
CaptainTiiti said:
They didnt Stopped Android 5!
Eye Experience is a new feature and comes directly with Android Lollipop. Ask HTC Customer Service they tell you the same.
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You are wrong sir...there is the 4.4.4 Eye Experience rom here From Sundream
Soul H4ck3r said:
You are wrong sir...there is the 4.4.4 Eye Experience rom here From Sundream
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You my friend never talked to HTC didnt ya ?
CaptainTiiti said:
You my friend never talked to HTC didnt ya ?
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You runnin a Custom Rom! No Ofiicial! There is no Official T6 ROM with HTC's EE. HTC gonna implement that for Official Android L ROM which is still in development.
Dont believe ? Talk to 'em... Oh and btw even on the official HTC DE site it says Android L on HTC One Max in Development.
Not getting into a pissing match with u...its been out for awhile it don't matter if it's official and just to let u know the project has been going on for some time I've seen that it has been out on acouple 4.4.2 roms also...its nothing new
CaptainTiiti said:
You runnin a Custom Rom! No Ofiicial! There is no Official T6 ROM with HTC's EE. HTC gonna implement that for Official Android L ROM which is still in development.
Dont believe ? Talk to 'em... Oh and btw even on the official HTC DE site it says Android L on HTC One Max in Development.
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Where? I just checked it does in fact say device is on KitKat end of life...
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cstrife999 said:
Where? I just checked it does in fact say device is on KitKat end of life...
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where does it says end of life ?
DEVICE Curently on KITKAT
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where does it says end of life ?
DEVICE Curently on KITKAT
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That is eol... Or it would say in development like it did two weeks ago... The status wouldn't have changed if development didn't stop ... You claimed it still said in development which it did two weeks ago... Add it up brotha... Compare it to other phones in development for lollipop ( actually I think the rollout is done for all who got it)
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That is eol... Or it would say in development like it did two weeks ago... The status wouldn't have changed if development didn't stop ... You claimed it still said in development which it did two weeks ago... Add it up brotha... Compare it to other phones in development for lollipop ( actually I think the rollout is done for all who got it)
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SO my friend !!!! i say it one last time after talking to an htc customer....
The Developmet seems to be complete and going in a few days into cert status!
it come in middle of may wit Android 5.0.2 Sense 6 EE on Europe!
when you now come and tell oh but on the site bla bla this is bull****!
Talk to HTC!!!
i can send a picture of my Conversation with HTCs customer
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Soul H4ck3r said:
Not getting into a pissing match with u...its been out for awhile it don't matter if it's official and just to let u know the project has been going on for some time I've seen that it has been out on acouple 4.4.2 roms also...its nothing new
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this was no offend to you, i just said that Eye Experience Cam Features was introduced with the Selfie Phone Desire Eye. And now after Android L came out HTC decided to implement it to other HTC phones like M7.
The T6 didnt have it yet but becomes it with Android L.
So i dont know about Sprint or Verizon the one showed on the update US site but the EU version will get Androdi L 5.0.2 with Sense 6 Eye Experience on middle/end of May.
CaptainTiiti said:
SO my friend !!!! i say it one last time after talking to an htc customer....
The Developmet seems to be complete and going in a few days into cert status!
it come in middle of may wit Android 5.0.2 Sense 6 EE on Europe!
when you now come and tell oh but on the site bla bla this is bull****!
Talk to HTC!!!
i can send a picture of my Conversation with HTCs customer
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this was no offend to you, i just said that Eye Experience Cam Features was introduced with the Selfie Phone Desire Eye. And now after Android L came out HTC decided to implement it to other HTC phones like M7.
The T6 didnt have it yet but becomes it with Android L.
So i dont know about Sprint or Verizon the one showed on the update US site but the EU version will get Androdi L 5.0.2 with Sense 6 Eye Experience on middle/end of May.
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The eye experience is indeed in development lollipop is not. Dude they didn't change it on the site you referenced just for fun. They are two separate things. Just stop... Days later you will realize how your ignorance looks... We have HTC employees on THIS SITE already claiming that Lollipop was dead months ago. I thought they were wrong as LOLLIPOP NOT EYE was still in development. However as it states on site Kitkat is the end of life for HTC One Max Verizon and Sprint and eye is still in development. It was changed about two weeks ago. You have ZERO evidence other than your pointless claims that eye means lollipop which you've already been proven wrong.
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The eye experience is indeed in development lollipop is not. Dude they didn't change it on the site you referenced just for fun. They are two separate things. Just stop... Days later you will realize how your ignorance looks... We have HTC employees on THIS SITE already claiming that Lollipop was dead months ago. I thought they were wrong as LOLLIPOP NOT EYE was still in development. However as it states on site Kitkat is the end of life for HTC One Max Verizon and Sprint and eye is still in development. It was changed about two weeks ago. You have ZERO evidence other than your pointless claims that eye means lollipop which you've already been proven wrong. .
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you gonna cry my friend when my T6 will run Lollipop next month.
Read again above, for Sprint or Verizon i dont know but for EU we get it next month.
& btw when did i said eye means lollipop ? when did i said that sprint or verizon get it ? im talking about the eu/international version and you bro have to accept that this device get it!
you have been proven wrong by an junio member which may seems to take your ego down.
read http://www.htc.com/de/go/htc-software-updates/
and again ask HTC.
Hi togehter,
iam thinking about getting a Le Max 2 (4GB/32GB). The only thing which is holding me off is the current lack of custom roms.
My question: How probable will it be that custom roms like CM13 (and later CM14) and custom kernels will be developed for this telephone?
Are there things which hold people off from developing for this phone? (like for example the missing kernel and driver sources for MediaTek devices).
Thanks a lot for helping me with my decission.
Best reagrds
Galdan
I'm not a developer nor anything like that, but I really don't see why there would be much of a problem with that. I think the only problem is that the phone is just rare by now and there's no developer's having time, tools or motivation to do that.
Give the development teams some while and I think there'll be CM as a first Custom Rom. Just a guess, I don't know s#!t
Currently, I am on the Stock ROM Eui 5.8 - 13s (I think?) and the shop I bought it from already installed Google Play Services. I really like the rosegold color more in real life than in the photos. I was really surprised by it's good look when I opened the package.
All in all if you have any questions I could answer about the phone, just write me. I'm not that active in the forum but I am surely for the next 7 days or so.
Good to know: On stock Rom it seems the On-The-Go USB isn't really working at all, neither the bluetooth connection (gamepad, speakers) for me. I'll update the phone to latest 14s Rom just now and try again.
Greetings from Germany
Galdan said:
Hi togehter,
iam thinking about getting a Le Max 2 (4GB/32GB). The only thing which is holding me off is the current lack of custom roms.
My question: How probable will it be that custom roms like CM13 (and later CM14) and custom kernels will be developed for this telephone?
Are there things which hold people off from developing for this phone? (like for example the missing kernel and driver sources for MediaTek devices).
Thanks a lot for helping me with my decission.
Best reagrds
Galdan
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The Le Max 2 is not a Mediatek Device so I would expect that Qualcom will (or allow)release of sources for custom devs
Hi together,
thanks for your feedback!
Iam not sure if its enough that Qualcom releases theire sources. The problem is also that the drivers for the display or the camera (and so on) are for some smartphones not open source.
I don't know how LeTV is handling this.
But thanks again for your feedback.
Best regards
Hi guys,
If a phone has what you can consider as "standard components", then the problem is not the ROM itself, but the problem is the so-called "device tree".
If the manufacturer releases enough info on that, a device tree can be made and then used to port more or less each existing ROM.
If it uses standard components, chances are that everything and every feature will work as it should.
I don't know nothing about the LeEco policy about this. So let's hope they will release it. But if TWRP already exists, it's an encouraging sign...
@NexusPenguin thank you verys much, that post was very insightful
@katze94 I bought the 32/4gb. So glad tbe the device is more good looking than in pictures. Can you please tell how you manage the screen size and is there a "one-hand" mode or feature?
Best regards
ItsNewDroid said:
@katze94 I bought the 32/4gb. So glad tbe the device is more good looking than in pictures. Can you please tell how you manage the screen size and is there a "one-hand" mode or feature?
Best regards
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I dont really understand what you mean. I got used to use big phones with my small hands so ive got some "techniques" Holding it onehanded.
What Do you mean by screen size? I havent found out how to resize it, like on iPhone and other android os's
katze94 said:
I dont really understand what you mean. I got used to use big phones with my small hands so ive got some "techniques" Holding it onehanded.
What Do you mean by screen size? I havent found out how to resize it, like on iPhone and other android os's
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Some android skins have one hand mode to resize the screen so you can get to upper part of screen with one hand. I now have a oneplus one and I'm not sure if I can manage this size.
Galdan said:
Hi togehter,
My question: How probable will it be that custom roms like CM13 (and later CM14) and custom kernels will be developed for this telephone?
Galdan
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Looks like the very first builds of CM13 are just starting to appear on Chinese forums!
http://bbs.ydss.cn/thread-644656-1-1.html
mjoach said:
Looks like the very first builds of CM13 are just starting to appear on Chinese forums!
http://bbs.ydss.cn/thread-644656-1-1.html
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Awesome news, thank you for sharing
mjoach said:
Looks like the very first builds of CM13 are just starting to appear on Chinese forums!
http://bbs.ydss.cn/thread-644656-1-1.html
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Do you know how to download this ROM?
I have an account at their forum, the instructions say to join a group there for getting a link.
Can't find out how to join this group.
The group: 518105701
I'd upload it for you guys, if you can help me getting it.
Draygon said:
Do you know how to download this ROM?
I have an account at their forum, the instructions say to join a group there for getting a link.
Can't find out how to join this group.
The group: 518105701
I'd upload it for you guys, if you can help me getting it.
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I have no experience myself, but recent post suggested you need to use QQ app (Chinese messaging app).
Yes, we need the QQ app to join the group.
Is someone able to do? I can't break the language barrier.
Draygon said:
Yes, we need the QQ app to join the group.
Is someone able to do? I can't break the language barrier.
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I did Download and signed in. Currently I am awaiting the acceptance of the group Administrator. Then I will Download the rom and Upload it for you. I wont test it in the first place, because I am a little bit careful with unknown roms.
Where can I Upload the file for you? I have a uploaded Account and I really like zippyshare. Any better, free and good dl-speed Alternatives?
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uploaded and zippyshare are both fine for me.
Would really appreciate your upload, thanks for helping me out!
What's the size of the ROM?
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uploaded and zippyshare are both fine for me.
Would really appreciate your upload, thanks for helping me out!
What's the size of the ROM?
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I dont know yet. I registered via 2 devices and none of them were accepted by now from the group. I will Tell you as soon as I am in
katze94 said:
I'm not a developer nor anything like that, but I really don't see why there would be much of a problem with that. I think the only problem is that the phone is just rare by now and there's no developer's having time, tools or motivation to do that.
Give the development teams some while and I think there'll be CM as a first Custom Rom. Just a guess, I don't know s#!t
Currently, I am on the Stock ROM Eui 5.8 - 13s (I think?) and the shop I bought it from already installed Google Play Services. I really like the rosegold color more in real life than in the photos. I was really surprised by it's good look when I opened the package.
All in all if you have any questions I could answer about the phone, just write me. I'm not that active in the forum but I am surely for the next 7 days or so.
Good to know: On stock Rom it seems the On-The-Go USB isn't really working at all, neither the bluetooth connection (gamepad, speakers) for me. I'll update the phone to latest 14s Rom just now and try again.
Greetings from Germany
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Does Leeco Le Max 2 have USB 3.1 Type C port or USB 2.0 like Oneplus 3, because OP3 have USB 2.0 is confirmed but no info on Le Max 2 is available.
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aditya2603d said:
Does Leeco Le Max 2 have USB 3.1 Type C port or USB 2.0 like Oneplus 3, because OP3 have USB 2.0 is confirmed but no info on Le Max 2 is available.
Thank You
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I use an OTG-adapter with an USB 3.0 stick and I get speeds up to 110 MB/s, so I think it can't be USB 2.0 which doesn't reach such speeds...
Bogeyof said:
I use an OTG-adapter with an USB 3.0 stick and I get speeds up to 110 MB/s, so I think it can't be USB 2.0 which doesn't reach such speeds...
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Now that is all the more reason to go for Leeco Le Max 2 instead of OP3.
Thank you for prompt reply. Kudos