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I've been on Android about 6 months now. First I had a Galaxy Note & now I have a Galaxy Note 2. In that time I've tried around 30 email clients (some free & some paid versions) but I've still not some across a client that can offer me some (what I consider) very simple features.
What I'd like the client to do is:
1. Be able to resize within the email view so I can see the whole email (or at least the width of it if the mail is longer than one page length). This is such a simple thing but the only one I've found that does this is the official Hotmail client but that brings with it a whole load of other issues... Even the Gmail client doesn't let you do this & you're forced to scroll around the screen trying to put together a virtual jigsaw puzzle in your head of what the whole email should look like.
2. Be able to set an option in the settings to always allow images. Again a simple feature. Something similar to the Gmail app would also be OK where you set it for each sender separately.
3. Always display as HTML.
4. Push notifications that display the message title/sender in the notification.
Hopefully someone knows of such a client but I haven't found one yet.
Thanks for your help people.
Nuwidol said:
I've been on Android about 6 months now. First I had a Galaxy Note & now I have a Galaxy Note 2. In that time I've tried around 30 email clients (some free & some paid versions) but I've still not some across a client that can offer me some (what I consider) very simple features.
What I'd like the client to do is:
1. Be able to resize within the email view so I can see the whole email (or at least the width of it if the mail is longer than one page length). This is such a simple thing but the only one I've found that does this is the official Hotmail client but that brings with it a whole load of other issues... Even the Gmail client doesn't let you do this & you're forced to scroll around the screen trying to put together a virtual jigsaw puzzle in your head of what the whole email should look like.
2. Be able to set an option in the settings to always allow images. Again a simple feature. Something similar to the Gmail app would also be OK where you set it for each sender separately.
3. Always display as HTML.
4. Push notifications that display the message title/sender in the notification.
Hopefully someone knows of such a client but I haven't found one yet.
Thanks for your help people.
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Have you tried Enhanced Email? It does all these things that you're looking for.
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Have you tried Enhanced Email? It does all these things that you're looking for.
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Thanks. I downloaded Enhanced Email from the play store. It does most of the stuff but doesn't let you know the source or title of the incoming mail. Just tells you that you have new mail.
Also having some problems with formatting emails in mobile view.
It's probably the best I've tried though.
You probably won't find an email client that tells you the sender and title because usually people receive multiple emails at a time from various senders.
And try K 9 mail
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Having used enhanced email for a few days I can say that it's definitely not up to use full time. When ever I reboot my phone it deletes my Hotmail account, it doesn't notify properly, has no push for Gmail, can't format html into mobile view effectively & has a poor gui. Very expensive for why it does.
I have tried K9 before & unless it's been updated recently there isn't an option to resize an email so that the while mail is displayed at once is there?
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Having used enhanced email for a few days I can say that it's definitely not up to use full time. When ever I reboot my phone it deletes my Hotmail account, it doesn't notify properly, has no push for Gmail, can't format html into mobile view effectively & has a poor gui. Very expensive for why it does.
I have tried K9 before & unless it's been updated recently there isn't an option to resize an email so that the while mail is displayed at once is there?
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What do you mean resize your email? You can pinch to zoom in it though, I used it a week or so ago
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What do you mean resize your email? You can pinch to zoom in it though, I used it a week or so ago
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Yes, you can pinch to zoom but I'd like to display the whole email on screen at once & then decide which part of the email I'd like to zoom into (if any). K9 & most other Android clients don't allow this. The only app that I've found that can do this at all is the official Hotmail app but the rest of the app is so basic its shocking. It doesn't allow you to always show images & on my current phone its a 3 click process to show images (in every mail you view). It also truncates all mails to a maximum of 100kb do anything over this takes a further 3 clicks to display properly. Very poor.
Try Aquamail. I absolutely love it, and it has all these features. Their mobile view is the main reason I use it. Make sure you pick up the latest beta version 4 here: www.aqua-mail.com/?page_id=217
The mobile view used to be incorporated into the appstore version. The developer took it out temporarily, and it is only in the latest beta.
Hi guys,
I'm searching for some messenger with strong privacy and "secret" features. Better explained, I've found Telegram as a good alternative to Whatsapp with its encryption features, but it lacks one thing that I really need: I'd like to keep some chat very private: it will be very useful if the conversation had some kind of PIN-password-pattern unlocking features.
This is possible for sms (Handcent, for example), but I haven't found it in any Messenger service.
Do you know any?
Bump. I'm looking for one too. I looked into evolveSms but I think its a bit over priced for the features. I'm currently using handcent but I don't really like the UI.
I have a data plan with limited sms, so I am interested in messenger/chat service like Whatsapp, Telegram, Kakao Talk and so on, but they all don't offer the 'private chat' option.
Surespot
You could just lock Telegram with another app? There are tons on the Play Store.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.domobile.applock
Zenety said:
You could just lock Telegram with another app? There are tons on the Play Store.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.domobile.applock
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Yes, I know, but this is the last option. I'd like to find a solution within the messenger app.
Threema has an Option for PIN Protection.
If activated you have to enter your PIN Code before you can see the messages.
The Problem with Threema is the same with most other messengers ... it´s not open source.
Go Sms Pro
Try GO SMS PRO the best messaging app on playstore it has lots of themes a good ui and the most important one privacy !!! you can protect your messages with pin or pattern lock !!! you can search on play store. I think you have to pay for some features but you can try it !!!
Sorry for my bad english ....!
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Try GO SMS PRO the best messaging app on playstore it has lots of themes a good ui and the most important one privacy !!! you can protect your messages with pin or pattern lock !!! you can search on play store. I think you have to pay for some features but you can try it !!!
Sorry for my bad english ....!
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Once again, I'm not interested in sms app, I need some messenger app working through data network. Maybe with the same features of go sms pro.
As shiva-afk stated, Threema has the protection option you want. It provides end-to-end encryption and protects your send/received messages/media:
First, you can protect your conversations if you set a passphrase for your encryption key. So, if you end the Threema process or reboot your phone, you have to enter this passphrase first before you can access any chat log or received pictures since they are stored encrypted (unless you exported them from the app into common store like the sd card).
Second, you can set a PIN to the app itself. So, even if you have unlocked the key with your passphrase, the app locks itself after being idle for some time and asks for a pin. You can define the time before it locks itself in several steps (30s, 1m, 2m, 5m, 10m, 20m).
However, it is not free (costs ~1,60€) and its not open source. The devs (from Switzerland) claim to use the common NaCl-library for crypto, but you must trust their sayings.
https://threema.ch
Go sms pro
powersimon said:
Once again, I'm not interested in sms app, I need some messenger app working through data network. Maybe with the same features of go sms pro.
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as i know it include the log in feature so you can send msgs or chat with your friends online through your data network, who have GO SMS PRO !!!
The doze mode introduced with Marshmallows breaks push email because email apps will no longer check for email when the phone is in doze. You can exempt apps from battery optimisation, but the exemption is only partial (read: useless). With Nougat it's even worse because Doze has become more aggressive.
My mailbox is on an imap server and I use imap idle for push (no, Apple fanboys, that's no battery drain).
AFAIK the only things which can wake a phone from Doze are phone call, sms messages, and high-priority google cloud messaging (or whatever they're called now) notifications.
Whatsapp, for example, relies on high-priority GCM notifications, and does wake phones up from Doze
There are some mail apps which rely on GCM notifications, but none which sends high-priority notifications - leaving aside the fact that I prefer imap idle because I don't like the idea of having a third-party server, which I somehow have to pay for, with access to my emails...
My question is: how on Earth are we supposed to get push email when the phone is in the doze? Or has google effectively decided that Android will no longer support real push email?
Rooting is not an option because the app I use to read my work email (Good by Blackberry) does not work on rooted devices.
Thanks!
PS Details of doze breaking push email are on another forum: http://androidforums.com/threads/mar...droid.1058445/
Anyone? yes, I know it's an old question, but it's still valid! Am I the only user for whom not having push email is an issue? I can live without getting instant notification of my private email, but work email is a different thing and I have had multiple situations where this has caused problems.
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Anyone? yes, I know it's an old question, but it's still valid! Am I the only user for whom not having push email is an issue? I can live without getting instant notification of my private email, but work email is a different thing and I have had multiple situations where this has caused problems.
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Try typeapp maybe. Works for me without whitelisting it
Are you sure it works when the device is in Doze? I ask because Google documentation explains very clearly
https://developer.android.com/training/monitoring-device-state/doze-standby
that whitelisting is only a partial exemption, and that the one and only way to be sure the device receives notifications when in Doze is to use high-priority FCM notifications.
Last I checked, typemail was using normal-priority FCM. has this changed?
To test it, you can force the app into doze by using adb:
adb shell dumpsys deviceidle force-idle
now send an email to yourself from your PC or another phone. Do you get a notification? If you do, typeapp uses high-priority FCM. if you don't, it doesn't, and there seems to be no way around it, because Google has decided to kill push email without providing a ******* alternative!!!
To exit doze and reactivate the phone:
adb shell dumpsys deviceidle unforce
adb shell dumpsys battery reset
A counter-test is to send yourself an email when the phone is not in doze - you should receive an immediate notification.
When talking about Doze, the most common mistakes are:
not understanding that whitelisting is only a partial exemption
mistakenly thinking that you are getting notifications despite doze, when, in fact, either doze hasn't kicked in, or you are getting them in the windows allowed by Doze (no push)
By the way, my key problem is with work email; I can live with private email not being delivered immediately, but work email is a different story!
You might also want to look at these two links about privacy:
https://mobilsicher.de/security-des...d-other-email-apps-transmit-login-credentials
https://androidforums.com/threads/email-which-apps-keep-it-private.935578/
Never heard of any email app using any information in a bad way, especially big ones like typeapp. Even if info is sent to their servers they plainly say they don't store it and even if they do, they can't use it for anything without implicating themselves.
Also first link includes misspellings in the header lmao. I wouldn't trust everything you read, you'll end up in a bubble.
As far as notifications from typeapp, they come through relentlessly if not turned off, dunno if it's preventing the doze somehow but it works well on my quarks running RR Oreo. Try it and do your own tests
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Never heard of any email app using any information in a bad way, especially big ones like typeapp. Even if info is sent to their servers they plainly say they don't store it and even if they do, they can't use it for anything without implicating themselves.
Also first link includes misspellings in the header lmao. I wouldn't trust everything you read, you'll end up in a bubble.
As far as notifications from typeapp, they come through relentlessly if not turned off, dunno if it's preventing the doze somehow but it works well on my quarks running RR Oreo. Try it and do your own tests
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As for typeapp, what leaves me confused is that its documentation talks about whitelisting it in the battery settings. However, even though 99% of Android users fail to understand this, whitelisting is only a very partial exemption. You don’t need to whitelist Whatsapp in order to receive messages even while in Doze. Why? Because Whatsapp uses high-priority FCM notifications. Hence I suspect Typeapp does NOT use high-priority FCM. I have emailed them this question.
It’s very unfortunate that it’s now become very hard to get real push email; we have gone backwards since the early days of mobile devices! Also, Google forcing FCM down our throat means going back to a BIS/BES kind of solution, which was wildly criticised for being a single point of failure. But, most incredibly, AFAIK there is no email client that uses high-priority FCM, so Google is effectively saying: you can have push whatsapp but not push email! The crazy thing is that this was done because too many apps were misbehaving and connecting too often, not because there is anything wrong with push email – imap idle used to work brilliantly, without draining battery.
It has also become very hard to test for push in Doze: many manufacturers add their own app-killing optimisation tool, so the app must be whitelisted there, too. Also, it is never clear when a phone is in Doze, or if it is in a maintenance window: you may think you are getting emails, but you are only getting them because the phone is in a maintenance window, and the next email you might not see for 2 hours!
I have never heard of any email app using private data in a particular bad way, either, it’s just that the concept of giving access to my email to some server of some unknown company makes me uneasy. I don’t even use gmail for this reason, preferring to pay for my own email! The apps listed in my second link (k9 mail, aquamail etc) download mail from the server to the app and the developers of the app have no access whatsoever to my mail. For example, there have been cases of developers of email clients letting their employees read emails to “train the software”
https://www.cnet.com/news/third-party-gmail-apps-reportedly-let-employees-read-peoples-emails/
https://www.macrumors.com/2018/07/02/third-party-email-apps-reading-user-emails/
I understand many people don’t care; these things are very subjective and I have zero interest in convincing anyone – I am just explaining why I’d rather avoid this kind of email clients, unless maybe it’s the one and only way to get real push with Android Doze.
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As for typeapp, what leaves me confused is that its documentation talks about whitelisting it in the battery settings. However, even though 99% of Android users fail to understand this, whitelisting is only a very partial exemption. You don’t need to whitelist Whatsapp in order to receive messages even while in Doze. Why? Because Whatsapp uses high-priority FCM notifications. Hence I suspect Typeapp does NOT use high-priority FCM. I have emailed them this question.
It’s very unfortunate that it’s now become very hard to get real push email; we have gone backwards since the early days of mobile devices! Also, Google forcing FCM down our throat means going back to a BIS/BES kind of solution, which was wildly criticised for being a single point of failure. But, most incredibly, AFAIK there is no email client that uses high-priority FCM, so Google is effectively saying: you can have push whatsapp but not push email! The crazy thing is that this was done because too many apps were misbehaving and connecting too often, not because there is anything wrong with push email – imap idle used to work brilliantly, without draining battery.
It has also become very hard to test for push in Doze: many manufacturers add their own app-killing optimisation tool, so the app must be whitelisted there, too. Also, it is never clear when a phone is in Doze, or if it is in a maintenance window: you may think you are getting emails, but you are only getting them because the phone is in a maintenance window, and the next email you might not see for 2 hours!
I have never heard of any email app using private data in a particular bad way, either, it’s just that the concept of giving access to my email to some server of some unknown company makes me uneasy. I don’t even use gmail for this reason, preferring to pay for my own email! The apps listed in my second link (k9 mail, aquamail etc) download mail from the server to the app and the developers of the app have no access whatsoever to my mail. For example, there have been cases of developers of email clients letting their employees read emails to “train the software”
https://www.cnet.com/news/third-party-gmail-apps-reportedly-let-employees-read-peoples-emails/
https://www.macrumors.com/2018/07/02/third-party-email-apps-reading-user-emails/
I understand many people don’t care; these things are very subjective and I have zero interest in convincing anyone – I am just explaining why I’d rather avoid this kind of email clients, unless maybe it’s the one and only way to get real push with Android Doze.
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Dud... I'm not reading all that, lol
Why not try typeapp itself with a non important or dummy email and see. It could be something with my device or ROM causing it to come through but I think it may work for you.
Quick question: is it possible to get typeapp to retrieve mail from the inbox folder immediately (push), but to also retrieve mail from another folder every 4 hours or so? This is the setup I had with Aquamail and K9mail. I ask because I have a 'newsletter' folder where all the newsletters, notifications and non-urgent stuff gets filtered (server-side). I am testing typeapp but haven't found a way to do this.
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Quick question: is it possible to get typeapp to retrieve mail from the inbox folder immediately (push), but to also retrieve mail from another folder every 4 hours or so? This is the setup I had with Aquamail and K9mail. I ask because I have a 'newsletter' folder where all the newsletters, notifications and non-urgent stuff gets filtered (server-side). I am testing typeapp but haven't found a way to do this.
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Not sure abt other folders. I know you can set it up that way for different e-mails. Maybe there's a way to make a rule for such a thing. If I discover a way I will post here
Edit- does not appear to be a way to do this using typeapp alone. Maybe another email program could be in fetch mode on that folder and you could set typeapp to push and notifications enabled for certain contacts or something of the like.
You could always contact support and ask if it could be done or put in a feature request. That is a good idea and would be useful to many
Another idea: depending on the email client you use, you may be able to set up a rule to forward those emails you want in fetch mode to a dummy email, then set that email in fetch mode within typeapp
Nothing special about TypeApp in terms of quick notifications when in Doze. I left my phone unattended for 20 minutes then sent a test email and it took over 40 minutes to get the notification. Samsung Email got it first at 28 minutes and BlueMail / TypeApp got it around 42 minutes. This is without touching the phone. This is with Batttery Optimization OFF, Adaptive Battery OFF, Put unused apps to Sleep OFF. Note 10+ Factory Unlocked Android 11 One UI 3.1
Edison Mail sends INSTANT notifications even if your phone's been sleeping for hours, but I hate their GUI, let alone their privacy policy.
Will this ADB command stick after reboot?
Code:
adb shell dumpsys deviceidle unforce
Hi All,
I've been attempting to use an alternative to Message+ (Verizon) but so far I haven't found any at all that will work after a reboot. What occurs is the SMS is logged in logcat but it doesn't pass to the messaging app so there's no notification or read into the app itself.
Anyone using an alternative? Message+ is ok except it wants to use Google Play Services and I get a warning on startup.
Cheers, Andrew
Hi Andrew,
Messages by Google works fine for me, though it's pretty large when installed:/
Cheers
Kristof
Yeah and it requires Google Play Services.
If the device is rooted and all Verizon apps are stripped any messaging app works fine.
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Yeah and it requires Google Play Services.
If the device is rooted and all Verizon apps are stripped any messaging app works fine.
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how? is there a step-by-step guide?
Forgotten thread?
I am doing some test in this days with Simple SMS Messenger, installed from f-droid.
I disabled the battery optimization and enable background for the app. Then it seems to work, once you started the app after a reboot, it works good, even if I close the all the apps, and load a number of other big apps. Of course I am not granted that the garbage collector will not flush it any more. But I keep going with my tests.
What I cannot find is a way to let it start automatically after reboot.
Note that I still have play services active, though.
Little Trick!
In order to receive more notifications than the 5 you set yourself, you have the option of loading the Blackberry Hub+ and the associated services from the PlayStore. You can manage many accounts there. works perfectlyfor me!
Find N77 said:
Little Trick!
In order to receive more notifications than the 5 you set yourself, you have the option of loading the Blackberry Hub+ and the associated services from the PlayStore. You can manage many accounts there. works perfectlyfor me!
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Great Idea!
Find N77 said:
Little Trick!
In order to receive more notifications than the 5 you set yourself, you have the option of loading the Blackberry Hub+ and the associated services from the PlayStore. You can manage many accounts there. works perfectlyfor me!
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Isn't it just a notification 'watcher'? Those apps would still need to show notifications to appear in the Blackberry Hub+ inbox???
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Isn't it just a notification 'watcher'? Those apps would still need to show notifications to appear in the Blackberry Hub+ inbox??
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No, the hub accesses the accounts directly, not the system.
Is like your mail program that accesses your mail account.
Look on Screenshot, it is Not the Gmail icon at the top.
I can't see a way to configure WhatsApp for example - surely it requires me to approve access or hook it up somehow?
I must look and test it, the N is not my daily driver.
WA is at the time on iPhone.....
Most of the chat apps (WhatsApp, Line...) Have auto-start set by default (without being one of the 5 custom auto-start apps), and therefore notifications will show, and be 'captured' by the Blackberry Hub. But for example, I just added Google Chat, which DOESN'T have auto-start set, and it doesn't show in Blackberry Hub, because there are no notifications...
I'm not sure I like the solution or workaround of yet another app to deal with notifications that should be a standard solution, aka OS and base UI API, from Google AndroidOS itself.
I'm fully aware of BlackBerry and its history, yet how up to date is this BlackBerry Hub and what's the official word from BlackBerry update future updates? If nothing official this would be a temporary solution.
Is Oppo taking user feedback on all channels (aka official support forums, support email/phone, twitter, etc)? They already have a global 'Ambassador' program to help launch and sales of the Find N2 Flip.
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I'm not sure I like the solution or workaround of yet another app to deal with notifications that should be a standard solution, aka OS and base UI API, from Google AndroidOS itself.
I'm fully aware of BlackBerry and its history, yet how up to date is this BlackBerry Hub and what's the official word from BlackBerry update future updates? If nothing official this would be a temporary solution.
Is Oppo taking user feedback on all channels (aka official support forums, support email/phone, twitter, etc)? They already have a global 'Ambassador' program to help launch and sales of the Find N2 Flip.
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CN ROM have limitations because Chinese app developers are garbage that stuffs apps full of offer notifications auto start and push for more monetization.. if u seen the china app market, it's 90% junk apps there that ask for every single permission possible to harvest ur data and sell openly to the big firms..
I tried this on my Find N2 (fold) no luck in getting other apps configured to receive notifications - the only one I could get to work was GMAIL..
Anyone else have any luck in getting other apps working using the Blackberry HUB such as Facebook etc?
Cheers FROSTY