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Bought my S4 with ME7 from a N2 before I knew what was good for me. As a recovering flash-a-holic, ME7 has helped me appreciate the functionality and stability of a factory ROM. In the past, factory ROMs never really did it for me - mainly because I've owned devices where factory overlay versus hardware were never really equal.
Obviously AOSP was the way to go - stable builds of Cyanogenmod to be specific (nightlies and insert developernamehere ROMs always had insertquirkhere that inevitably revealed itself - being a perfectionist who loves minimalism, I had limited options. My ROM choice was always stable AOSP-built or TouchWiz with very light modifications (I looked for debloated, odexed ROMs with no mods, maybe volume key to change track).
Back to the topic name, has anyone grown content with their ME7 stock device? Obviously I'm anticipating Safestrap (I went from a Fascinate to a Bionic, then to GNex, GS3, GN2, GS4 for those wondering), but if it never reaches fruition, I could be content with this device for a little while. Opinions?
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Bought my S4 with ME7 from a N2 before I knew what was good for me. As a recovering flash-a-holic, ME7 has helped me appreciate the functionality and stability of a factory ROM. In the past, factory ROMs never really did it for me - mainly because I've owned devices where factory overlay versus hardware were never really equal.
Obviously AOSP was the way to go - stable builds of Cyanogenmod to be specific (nightlies and insert developernamehere ROMs always had insertquirkhere that inevitably revealed itself - being a perfectionist who loves minimalism, I had limited options. My ROM choice was always stable AOSP-built or TouchWiz with very light modifications (I looked for debloated, odexed ROMs with no mods, maybe volume key to change track).
Back to the topic name, has anyone grown content with their ME7 stock device? Obviously I'm anticipating Safestrap (I went from a Fascinate to a Bionic, then to GNex, GS3, GN2, GS4 for those wondering), but if it never reaches fruition, I could be content with this device for a little while. Opinions?
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root alone is fine for me, tbh, even though i run a custom rom. Just the ability to get rid of bloatware is fine with stuff like nova launcher.
zerofighter1 said:
Bought my S4 with ME7 from a N2 before I knew what was good for me. As a recovering flash-a-holic, ME7 has helped me appreciate the functionality and stability of a factory ROM. In the past, factory ROMs never really did it for me - mainly because I've owned devices where factory overlay versus hardware were never really equal.
Obviously AOSP was the way to go - stable builds of Cyanogenmod to be specific (nightlies and insert developernamehere ROMs always had insertquirkhere that inevitably revealed itself - being a perfectionist who loves minimalism, I had limited options. My ROM choice was always stable AOSP-built or TouchWiz with very light modifications (I looked for debloated, odexed ROMs with no mods, maybe volume key to change track).
Back to the topic name, has anyone grown content with their ME7 stock device? Obviously I'm anticipating Safestrap (I went from a Fascinate to a Bionic, then to GNex, GS3, GN2, GS4 for those wondering), but if it never reaches fruition, I could be content with this device for a little while. Opinions?
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I have ran basically every custom TW rom but now im on an me7 stock rom (can go back to mdk) and im content with it. Im running the xposed framework so I can do some basic customization. Getting some awesome battery life too, day and a half with 6 hours screen on time.
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Rooted, debloated with TBU, tweaked a bit with Tweakbox and Wanam via Xposed and using Nova, stock ME7 is fairly dynamic. Will I try a custom via SS, and/or via a custom recovery.....you bet. Am I OK with the GS4 as is? Yep. Best phone I have ever had by a long shot.
I used a 16gb S4 for couple days and then returned it and ordered the 32gb version online. I knew I had found my new phone because the only thing that bugged me was the bloat and that will go once rooted. Came from GNex, which I hated stock. Before that, the Incredible-hated Sense. So I was really thrilled with the S4 in all respects.
Question: When my new S4 arrives in the next day or two, what's the way to keep it from downloading the update before I can get it rooted? (I realize it may come already updated, in which case I'll just root, period )
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Pull sim and root or just put it in airplane mode then root. If it can't communicate to wonderful world of VZW, it can't pull down the update
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Pull sim and root or just put it in airplane mode then root. If it can't communicate to wonderful world of VZW, it can't pull down the update
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The above would be the absolute 1st step/s. 2nd step is to freeze/uninstall SDM 1.0. and go to system root/data/fota/ and delete the ota file/s.
Getting rid of the bloat ware did it for me. My battery life is much better now than when I first got it. I still wish I could flash some different ROMs. I've never had a phone I couldn't do that on so this will be a first.
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Actually, I'm ok with rooted ME7 for now. It's only been, maybe 10 hours, and most of that time has been spent searching and reading, but after removing all the bloat mentioned here and downloading blacked out apps from TBO Blackout Updater, I think it should be just fine. Especially coming from the ol' Fascinate.
My first Droid was a HTC Incredible. I went through tons of ROM"s on that. Everything from an ODex'd stock rom to MIUI. I ultimately ran MIUI with tons of customizations flashed via recovery.
With the S4 Im content with root and just getting rid of the bloat. I like TouchWiz more than I liked HTC Sense.
Just rooting alone and removing the bloat I can go 27 hours with 55% screen time and 8% GPS usage. I went with the 32Gb version and a 16Gb Microsd card with tons of wallpapers, notification sounds, etc.
Very content.
I used to be a flash-a-holic, but in the last year, I have had a child and gone back to school. I have found very little time or motivation to mess around with ROMs I don't like, have strange glitches, or are just plain unreliable. I know there are many good ROMs usually available for well supported devices, but the time spent trying one after another has worn on me. My Nexus 7 has been running the same fully functional ROM for a long time, and I feel no need to "update" to the latest version of the ROM just for the sake of having the "latest" when this is running rock solid.
Stuck on stock... hehe... has been good for me actually. Very stable, functional. reliable. After rooting, removing all the bloat (still just frozen until thouroughly proven to be safe for me), and installling HOLO Launcher HD, I am very happy. I am findng tweaks to polish the user experience more and more every day, and my battery life is much better than I thought it would be with this huge and gorgeous screen. I have had no issues with the heat or battery drain I read about and feared before diving in and buying this phone, and whether or not it is because the first thing I did was root and debloat, doesn't matter to me.
I love this phone, my first Sammy.
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Rooted, debloated with TBU, tweaked a bit with Tweakbox and Wanam via Xposed and using Nova, stock ME7 is fairly dynamic. Will I try a custom via SS, and/or via a custom recovery.....you bet. Am I OK with the GS4 as is? Yep. Best phone I have ever had by a long shot.
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Wanam Xposed is so awesome, finally able to customized the device how I like
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Wanam Xposed is so awesome, finally able to customized the device how I like
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Just installed Viper4Android.......WOW!!
Stupid question I'm sure, but how do I "debloat"? Is there an app, or is this simply manually deleting unwanted apps? FYI, I have Verizon ME7 rooted.
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Stupid question I'm sure, but how do I "debloat"? Is there an app, or is this simply manually deleting unwanted apps? FYI, I have Verizon ME7 rooted.
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Debloating is basically removing all the apps that come pre installed that you have no use/need for. There is a 1 click debloater posted in the dev section but I prefer to do it manually.
Hit thanks if I helped you out. Doing a little bit of reading goes a long way. Sent via tapatalk.
I just got back home with my shiny new S4 and I can't wait to get the thing rooted and rom'd. But! Before I take the dive, I'd like to test the waters of this lovely phone's community.
If you have a few minutes to spare:
- What rom/kernel are you using? Why?
- What is one thing that you wish you knew about the S4 before flashing?
Thanks!
- EJ
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I just got back home with my shiny new S4 and I can't wait to get the thing rooted and rom'd. But! Before I take the dive, I'd like to test the waters of this lovely phone's community.
If you have a few minutes to spare:
- What rom/kernel are you using? Why?
- What is one thing that you wish you knew about the S4 before flashing?
Thanks!
- EJ
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Before you get to excited, you might want to check what firmware version you have.
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Before you get to excited, you might want to check what firmware version you have.
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That was painfully vague. Care to elaborate?
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That was painfully vague. Care to elaborate?
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As far as I know (which I'm not 100%sure since I'm on mdk) you cannot flash custom roms yet if on the latest update (mj7 with Android 4.3) If you're lucky enough (unlikely) to get one with me7 firmware, you can flash custom roms with safestrap. This phone is not doing so well in the development area as I expected it would before release. Hopefully someone can figure out a way around the locked down bootloader
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That was painfully vague. Care to elaborate?
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That makes it painfully obvious that you haven't read much around here.
What you first need to know is what firmware version you have. That determines what you can do.
What you asked is equivalent to saying that you have a car then asking what you can do to improve it - no data on what year or model, or what you want to do. Without that info, how can anyone help you? If you can't even be bothered to figure out what build you have to start with, nobody can suggest anything to help you.
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As far as I know (which I'm not 100%sure since I'm on mdk) you cannot flash custom roms yet if on the latest update (mj7 with Android 4.3) If you're lucky enough (unlikely) to get one with me7 firmware, you can flash custom roms with safestrap. This phone is not doing so well in the development area as I expected it would before release. Hopefully someone can figure out a way around the locked down bootloader
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I managed to figure that out a couple minutes ago. I actually got pushed to ME7 while I was rooting my S4 (ironic?) and was able to stop it after that. So, it seems I was one of the lucky(ish) ones. Would've been nice to stay at MDK, but SafeStrap seems to be one hell of a tool.
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I just got back home with my shiny new S4 and I can't wait to get the thing rooted and rom'd. But! Before I take the dive, I'd like to test the waters of this lovely phone's community.
If you have a few minutes to spare:
- What rom/kernel are you using? Why?
- What is one thing that you wish you knew about the S4 before flashing?
Thanks!
- EJ
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Hey there... I remember you from the Fascinate forums. I finally ended up getting an S4 about 2 1/2 months ago and for the most part it's a great device, but you can't expect near the same freedom as you had with the Fascinate.
When I got mine I ended up with ME7 so it sounds like you're in the same boat. I have mine rooted, but decided not to use Safestrap because of the limitations it brings (mainly the storage issue). I'm pretty happy with how I have mine set up and it's pretty snappy overall, but I really do wish I had gotten an MDK in order to really flash roms like I used to on my Fascinate.
If you choose to use Safestrap then go nuts and I hope you find some roms you like (Hyperdrive seems to get the most love around here from what I've noticed). I'll just quickly list off the modifications I did to mine that got it to where I like it:
-Froze all bloat with Titanium, including the SDM 1.0 (to prevent unwanted updates)
-Got rid of e911 icon and ongoing WiFi notification
-Installed the International Voice Dialer with call recording
-Installed Volume Boost mod (increased it around 50% over stock)
-Installed Xposed Framework so I could use Greenify features
-Used Greenify to hibernate all misbehaving apps (examples would be Facebook and Google Play Store) (... this increased battery life A LOT)
-Installed AdAway (adblocker)
-Turned all animations down to .5 in developer options and disabled all hovering effects on the lock screen
Doing all that really made this thing a lot better than it was, but I'm still hoping for a true bootloader unlock to start playing with it more. I have found a lot of the Touchwiz features to be quite useful, like the voice control stuff, camera app, etc, so I would probably stick with a modded Touchwiz rom if I had the option. Good luck.
edit: Oh and another thing you might not be aware of - the camera is set to 9.5MP by default in the app, you need to go into settings to use the native 13MP resolution.
One thing to note that no one mentioned (and in case you didn't read elsewhere) is that with SafeStrap you can not use ROMs with custom kernels. So that means no AOSP based ROMs like CM, Carbon, PACman and others since they are all using a custom kernel. At least until they get KEXEC working with SafeStrap (if they get it working). So basically you can only use modded TW roms with a stock kernel.
So, I am a bit confused here, I usually have motorola phones, but for $110 I couldn't resist getting this phone.
I tried to flash a rom that say "GEEB" in it, and I just get a get build prop error, it's an E970 from ATT.
I'm just confused as I believe it should work. Unless I am missing something.
I also was wondering, when I boot into Fastboot, should the phone say Mako or E970?
Are you using cwm or twrp? Fastboot should show mako.
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So, I am a bit confused here, I usually have motorola phones, but for $110 I couldn't resist getting this phone.
I tried to flash a rom that say "GEEB" in it, and I just get a get build prop error, it's an E970 from ATT.
I'm just confused as I believe it should work. Unless I am missing something.
I also was wondering, when I boot into Fastboot, should the phone say Mako or E970?
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First flash kernel and than flash rom in recovery.
If you follow this steps you won't have problem any more.
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Are you using cwm or twrp? Fastboot should show mako.
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I'm using Philz CWM. As far as the kernel goes, is there a specific one I need to flash? I sound like a noob, which isn't true, but I've never had an LG lol, and it seems different.
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I'm using Philz CWM. As far as the kernel goes, is there a specific one I need to flash? I sound like a noob, which isn't true, but I've never had an LG lol, and it seems different.
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Actually, no, there is not a specific kernel you would need to flash, and I'm not sure why he would have said that.
If you successfully unlocked your bootloader, your phone should identify itself as Mako. If you see E970 on gastboot, this means you still need to unlock your bootloader.
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Actually, no, there is not a specific kernel you would need to flash, and I'm not sure why he would have said that.
If you successfully unlocked your bootloader, your phone should identify itself as Mako. If you see E970 on gastboot, this means you still need to unlock your bootloader.
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Ah ok, I thought as much. I guess I am just having random issues, I replaced the screen on it and the prox sensor was a bit off, so I had to fix that.
Now that that is OK though. I have Flashed CM 11 and I have flashed LiquidSmooth KK and JB, and both have issues with WiFi and data connection.
Is there a good daily rom that just makes it smoother and not destroy it's battery? Lol.Seems ARTMOD is really popular lol, I presume that is the good one here?
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Ah ok, I thought as much. I guess I am just having random issues, I replaced the screen on it and the prox sensor was a bit off, so I had to fix that.
Now that that is OK though. I have Flashed CM 11 and I have flashed LiquidSmooth KK and JB, and both have issues with WiFi and data connection.
Is there a good daily rom that just makes it smoother and not destroy it's battery? Lol.Seems ARTMOD is really popular lol, I presume that is the good one here?
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If you're having wifi issues, its possible you have an older radio. There's a thread, I think in General, with all the available radios. The ATT JB radio and N4 hybrids seem to have the most success, try the ATT JB radio first and then go from there.
Artmod is OK, but if you want stock I'd honestly recommend SnowJB. Its older but works better.
Mathsz's CarbonRom or official PA-Legacy builds have given me the best results so far, with Vanir and Commotio (which is also in the Vanir thread) share second place.
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If you're having wifi issues, its possible you have an older radio. There's a thread, I think in General, with all the available radios. The ATT JB radio and N4 hybrids seem to have the most success, try the ATT JB radio first and then go from there.
Artmod is OK, but if you want stock I'd honestly recommend SnowJB. Its older but works better.
Mathsz's CarbonRom or official PA-Legacy builds have given me the best results so far, with Vanir and Commotio (which is also in the Vanir thread) share second place.
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Hah, I was wondering why the battery life sucked, I'm on ICS on it, I am pretty bad today! lol.
Silentwidow said:
Hah, I was wondering why the battery life sucked, I'm on ICS on it, I am pretty bad today! lol.
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Oh yeah, the stock ICS rom is objectively worse in every way than almost every custom rom available here, Especially with the improvements in battery life brought by 4.3 & 4.4
Back on 4.2, I would get slightly better battery life on stock 4.1 than custom roms.
However, ever since 4.3, custom roms have had unequivocally better battery than stock, and basically anything 4.4 is gonna have great battery. Most days, I average ~15 hours battery, with ~4 hours screen on, and this is with everything turned on and playing games throughout the day.
And with a stock 4.4 update coming this summer, things will only get better.
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Oh yeah, the stock ICS rom is objectively worse in every way than almost every custom rom available here, Especially with the improvements in battery life brought by 4.3 & 4.4
Back on 4.2, I would get slightly better battery life on stock 4.1 than custom roms.
However, ever since 4.3, custom roms have had unequivocally better battery than stock, and basically anything 4.4 is gonna have great battery. Most days, I average ~15 hours battery, with ~4 hours screen on, and this is with everything turned on and playing games throughout the day.
And with a stock 4.4 update coming this summer, things will only get better.
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I have an Atrix HD with a Razr MAXX battery in it, it lasts me with my use about 3 days total, it's amazing lol.
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I have an Atrix HD with a Razr MAXX battery in it, it lasts me with my use about 3 days total, it's amazing lol.
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Thats nice, however that's not what were talking about.
We're talking about taking a phone that gets ~10 hours with ~2 hours screen time and, in making no modifications other than software, extending the battery almost 100%.
Hi all. I am running 4.1.1 and have become aware my stock-rooted android version is at risk because of this latest "bug that affects SSL security. I like the "stock with goodies" rom that I have and want to keep everything the same as it is now. I read that you can flash an update file, but am concerned with the known issues this may cause. I cannot find any other custom rom that I like enough to want to switch to.
Android version: 4.1.1, Htc Sense 4+, Software version 3.16.651.3 710RD, HTC SDK API level 4.63, Baseband (Radio) 1.13.11.0830, Hboot 1.12 2222
TWRP version is 2.4.1.0
I want to stay rooted and be able to wifi tether without issues. Other roms I had issues with wifi tether among other things so Ive liked and stuck to this rom.
What would you do?
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Hi all. I am running 4.1.1 and have become aware my stock-rooted android version is at risk because of this latest "bug that affects SSL security. I like the "stock with goodies" rom that I have and want to keep everything the same as it is now. I read that you can flash an update file, but am concerned with the known issues this may cause. I cannot find any other custom rom that I like enough to want to switch to.
Android version: 4.1.1, Htc Sense 4+, Software version 3.16.651.3 710RD, HTC SDK API level 4.63, Baseband (Radio) 1.13.11.0830, Hboot 1.12 2222
TWRP version is 2.4.1.0
I want to stay rooted and be able to wifi tether without issues. Other roms I had issues with wifi tether among other things so Ive liked and stuck to this rom.
What would you do?
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Before I give my input...what update file are you referring to? Was it an update file released from HTC, or from Google? Is it the 4.3 update that's been the latest rave around here (which is awesome, for the record)? Are you comfortable using Sense 5.0 (or 5.5)?
Sorry for all of the questions. While I can easily tell you that I would update, you don't seem very interested in doing so. Therefore, I need to know what you want, and you will get my educated answer.
My goal is to not be vulnerable to this SSL bug. I have not tried sense 5.0 or 5.5. Apparently google released a file to update to 4.3.
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Before I give my input...what update file are you referring to? Was it an update file released from HTC, or from Google? Is it the 4.3 update that's been the latest rave around here (which is awesome, for the record)? Are you comfortable using Sense 5.0 (or 5.5)?
Sorry for all of the questions. While I can easily tell you that I would update, you don't seem very interested in doing so. Therefore, I need to know what you want, and you will get my educated answer.
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My goal is to not be vulnerable to this SSL bug. I have not tried sense 5.0 or 5.5. Apparently google released a file to update to 4.3.
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I'm in the same boat running a 4.1.1-based ROM ... MeanBean ... that I would like to keep, too, because I like it a lot. I'm not in a hurry to change because I do no financial transactions on my phone, plus I have a complicating factor in that my Sprint device has been flashed to run on Page Plus, the Verizon MVNO, and I'm concerned that making a really drastic change like to 4.3 or 4.4 will break the flash and force me to get that redone (although the person I bought the phone from tested it and flash survived a factory reset in TWRP, so I'm feeling pretty good that wiping it's not going to be an issue).
I've done a Titanium Backup of my user apps and used TWRP to create a nandroid ... I'm a noob but I'm learning ... and I've downloaded Yankees 2450's Y14 Aroma 4.1.2-based app to my SD card and I'm planning to flash it at some point, "when I get around to it," as much to get in on the ROM fun as out of any concern over HeartBleed (although I won't deny that some concern exists). Maybe that's one you should consider, the reviews in the development section seem pretty solid, and again it doesn't seem like it would be a massive change, that's why I'm going with it.
Thanks for your input. Im looking at that thread now
where 4.1.2 aroma roms are. There are quite a few versions.... not sure which would be best to try.
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Before I give my input...what update file are you referring to? Was it an update file released from HTC, or from Google? Is it the 4.3 update that's been the latest rave around here (which is awesome, for the record)? Are you comfortable using Sense 5.0 (or 5.5)?
Sorry for all of the questions. While I can easily tell you that I would update, you don't seem very interested in doing so. Therefore, I need to know what you want, and you will get my educated answer.
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I'm in the same boat running a 4.1.1-based ROM ... MeanBean ... that I would like to keep, too, because I like it a lot. I'm not in a hurry to change because I do no financial transactions on my phone, plus I have a complicating factor in that my Sprint device has been flashed to run on Page Plus, the Verizon MVNO, and I'm concerned that making a really drastic change like to 4.3 or 4.4 will break the flash and force me to get that redone (although the person I bought the phone from tested it and flash survived a factory reset in TWRP, so I'm feeling pretty good that wiping it's not going to be an issue).
I've done a Titanium Backup of my user apps and used TWRP to create a nandroid ... I'm a noob but I'm learning ... and I've downloaded Yankees 2450's Y14 Aroma 4.1.2-based app to my SD card and I'm planning to flash it at some point, "when I get around to it," as much to get in on the ROM fun as out of any concern over HeartBleed (although I won't deny that some concern exists). Maybe that's one you should consider, the reviews in the development section seem pretty solid, and again it doesn't seem like it would be a massive change, that's why I'm going with it.
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Thanks for your input. Im looking at that thread now
where 4.1.2 aroma roms are. There are quite a few versions.... not sure which would be best to try.
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I downloaded the Y14 build which is the latest. I think 4.1.2 has the vulnerability but the actual HeartBleed bug hasn't been engaged as in 4.1.1.
Ah, i just downloaded the Y14 as well, but if theres still vulnerability there im not sure id feel okay with that.
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I downloaded the Y14 build which is the latest. I think 4.1.2 has the vulnerability but the actual HeartBleed bug hasn't been engaged as in 4.1.1.
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Ah, i just downloaded the Y14 as well, but if theres still vulnerability there im not sure id feel okay with that.
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Well the Hisense Sero 7 tablet I'm using to post (running 4.2.1) "has the vulnerability," but it's safe because HeartBleed isn't enabled. It's only enabled on 4.1.1 from everything I've heard.
Im going to give it a go now, and flash Y14.
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Well the Hisense Sero 7 tablet I'm using to post (running 4.2.1) "has the vulnerability," but it's safe because HeartBleed isn't enabled. It's only enabled on 4.1.1 from everything I've heard.
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Im going to give it a go now, and flash Y14.
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Let me know how it works for you, I need to go ahead and flash mine, as noted I'm concerned about HeartBleed but not over panicking based in my usage.
So do you think this version 4.1.2 will ever have that ssl bug enabled? Im flashed and already having issues, only 1x signal and profile wont update =/
Activate this device does nothing as well. Even in WiFi settings, ALL networks show full bars, when i know many are very far away. Looks like im going back to my nandroid backup and decide what to do when i find more info. ALSO, 4G LTE did connect, but kept going away every 10 seconds or so, back to 1x which is not normal.
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Let me know how it works for you, I need to go ahead and flash mine, as noted I'm concerned about HeartBleed but not over panicking based in my usage.
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So do you think this version 4.1.2 will ever have that ssl bug enabled? Im flashed and already having issues, only 1x signal and profile wont update =/
Activate this device does nothing as well. Even in WiFi settings, ALL networks show full bars, when i know many are very far away. Looks like im going back to my nandroid backup and decide what to do when i find more info. ALSO, 4G LTE did connect, but kept going away every 10 seconds or so, back to 1x which is not normal.
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No, HeartBleed will not be enabled in anything save 4.1.1. You need to read up about the origin of this thing and the mechanism by how it is or isn't a threat.
Your only option is to go to a custom ROM that is not 4.1.1 based, or wait on HTC to issue the update for the stock ROM that they've promised, but have given no ETA for (and I wouldn't hold my breath).
I don't know if you have enough posts here to post on the development board ... that's another reason I've held off doing anything, although I'm getting close thanks to this thread ... but the developer of that ROM is very responsive to people with issues, and as I said the thing is very popular and seems pretty bulletproof from the response.
I promise I'm not his PR person, have never spoken to him, just found that ROM when I was looking for something that would be the least drastic change from what I'm running now, because of being flashed to Page Plus (which only gives me 3G, but I knew that going in). 4.3, you have to do more than just wipe and flash because of the partitions changes.
When I think about it, I don't see how changing the partitions on the phone will affect the functionality of the phone while using Page Plus. Maybe I'm looking at it incorrectly, but I don't reactivate my phone with Sprint every time that I flash a new rom, root it, change partitions, or anything at all. I could be wrong, though, for I have never flashed my phone to any other service.
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When I think about it, I don't see how changing the partitions on the phone will affect the functionality of the phone while using Page Plus. Maybe I'm looking at it incorrectly, but I don't reactivate my phone with Sprint every time that I flash a new rom, root it, change partitions, or anything at all. I could be wrong, though, for I have never flashed my phone to any other service.
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I really don't know, thus my hesitance in my own situation. Had a "recommend a ROM thread locked because I was unaware that wasn't kosher, so I went back to the boards (which can be a daunting experience for a noob) and found that particular ROM and I've also downloaded CM10 stable.
Am basically just acclimating myself to this stuff (phone was rooted, running MeanBean and flashed to PP when I bought it, have never done any of this), learning how to use Titanium and TWRP to make backups, etc.
I''d be lying if I said HeartBleed wasn't a concern to me, but I'm not as panicked as the OP about it. I know I need to probably change, although I'm quite happy as is with MeanBean. Biggest priority aside from security is not having to spend $50 or so to get the phone reflashed to PP.
4.1.1 has three digits the ones that matter are the first two. 4.1.2 may still be vulnerable to heart bleed. As for flashing to page plus you can do that on your own for free there are guides for how to do this all over. The best bet for every one running below 4.3 is to update to a Rom that is 4.3+ also with that update comes many fixes for the most common phone issue one might have while running below 4.3. There are 3 fully functioning roms currently available for the evo running on the updated partitions. Sense 5.5 by chubbz and I captain's stock Rom. And vins viper 4.0 with sense 5.5. Now with all this knowledge I've given you go explore, test the waters jump in. And always remember to post a question Rom related after at least 1 hour of thread searching Google and running the basics of Rom flashing. Wipe caches, dalvik if all else factory reset.
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Thanks for the advice. I have searched threads, as noted I have been practicing to test the waters ... I have a Titanium Backup of my apps and a Nandroid of current system with MeanBean on my SD card so I'm comfortable with that. I think I'm pretty clear on wiping the phone ... although I thought the factory reset took care of everything, do you still need to wipe caches/dalvik after that? Searching the threads is where I picked up on the 4.1.2 ROM which seems to be pretty bulletproof stable, and as far as I know HeartBleed isn't enabled in 4.1.2. I was basically looking at that as an intermediate step, again just to dip my foot in the pool of ROM flashing before attempting anything more elaborate. The instructions for going to 4.3 are a bit more complicated than wipe, flash, reboot, and I'd prefer to learn to swim a little better before jumping off the high board. Same with the Page Plus flashing. I'm sure I could eventually figure out how to do it myself, problem is I use my phone pretty much perpetually for work and can't afford to have it out of service for a millisecond, so it's worth the cost to me to get it done right first time, although I'd rather not break the flash in the first place. I've gotten some advice from folks who do such flashing that 4.3 will break it, every time.
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4.1.1 has three digits the ones that matter are the first two. 4.1.2 may still be vulnerable to heart bleed. As for flashing to page plus you can do that on your own for free there are guides for how to do this all over. The best bet for every one running below 4.3 is to update to a Rom that is 4.3+ also with that update comes many fixes for the most common phone issue one might have while running below 4.3. There are 3 fully functioning roms currently available for the evo running on the updated partitions. Sense 5.5 by chubbz and I captain's stock Rom. And vins viper 4.0 with sense 5.5. Now with all this knowledge I've given you go explore, test the waters jump in. And always remember to post a question Rom related after at least 1 hour of thread searching Google and running the basics of Rom flashing. Wipe caches, dalvik if all else factory reset.
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So, I talked to a friend of mine who knows alot about alot... and he assured me that you will only be susceptible to heartbleed attacks on open or public wifi spots. So this bug does not affect anything over 3G/4G, which puts most of my concerns at risk. So don't be too worried if you don't constantly connect to open wifi networks you cannot completely trust. In conclusion, im not too concerned anymore and am going to leave the android version alone.
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Thanks for the advice. I have searched threads, as noted I have been practicing to test the waters ... I have a Titanium Backup of my apps and a Nandroid of current system with MeanBean on my SD card so I'm comfortable with that. I think I'm pretty clear on wiping the phone ... although I thought the factory reset took care of everything, do you still need to wipe caches/dalvik after that? Searching the threads is where I picked up on the 4.1.2 ROM which seems to be pretty bulletproof stable, and as far as I know HeartBleed isn't enabled in 4.1.2. I was basically looking at that as an intermediate step, again just to dip my foot in the pool of ROM flashing before attempting anything more elaborate. The instructions for going to 4.3 are a bit more complicated than wipe, flash, reboot, and I'd prefer to learn to swim a little better before jumping off the high board. Same with the Page Plus flashing. I'm sure I could eventually figure out how to do it myself, problem is I use my phone pretty much perpetually for work and can't afford to have it out of service for a millisecond, so it's worth the cost to me to get it done right first time, although I'd rather not break the flash in the first place. I've gotten some advice from folks who do such flashing that 4.3 will break it, every time.
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So, I talked to a friend of mine who knows alot about alot... and he assured me that you will only be susceptible to heartbleed attacks on open or public wifi spots. So this bug does not affect anything over 3G/4G, which puts most of my concerns at risk. So don't be too worried if you don't constantly connect to open wifi networks you cannot completely trust. In conclusion, im not too concerned anymore and am going to leave the android version alone.
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OK good luck, still going to update mine as soon as I make the final call on which one to try. Decisions, decisions ...
Hi all!
I've been an S3 user for a little over 1.5 years; been a native of the Sprint forums (although my Sprint S3 is flashed to Page Plus).
Now that VZW has made their prepaid plan a lot more competitive and included LTE, I'm planning on making the jump, and picking up an S4 in the process. The $ cost to me will end up being negligible, as I'm able to sell my S3 and mostly make up for the expense of the S4.
I've loved my S3 - I run a rooted stock 4.4.2 rom, debloated all the samsung & sprint crap via titanium, and a ktoonsez kernel that's been tweaked to work well with my phone - and it functions perfectly - still fast, great battery life for a ~2 year old phone, etc. Been around android for some time now (first phone was the OG incredible), so am perfectly comfortable tweaking and such, however I don't want to spend too much time doing so.
I'm reading about the S4 and curious if it's worth the upgrade. I've heard several people online complain about the verizon 4.4.2 update causing overheating and issues with the phone. If I root, debloat, and run a quality custom kernel, am I likely to have issues?
I only use my phone for web browsing, calendaring email, texting, and talking - no gaming. I'm mainly looking forward to having the nicer screen and camera, and the likely possibility of a few more Android updates (which the S3 is unlikely to get). Honestly I'd love to have the next Nexus or something that runs closer to stock, but don't have the luxury to wait around for that phone (and I want to stay on vzw's network).
I've been doing some reading around your forum and am just curious as to your thoughts on the jump S3 -> vzw S4! Pros & cons?
Thanks much,
-Dirk
VZW has it locked down. You can root & perhaps a custom rom using Safestrap. But only TW based roms & some Xposed framework customization. Just about 0 choice on kernels. (unless you can get hold of one with MDK bootloader, - - then you are golden.)
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VZW has it locked down. You can root & perhaps a custom rom using Safestrap. But only TW based roms & some Xposed framework customization. Just about 0 choice on kernels. (unless you can get hold of one with MDK bootloader, - - then you are golden.)
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Huh. I was planning on picking up one of the manufacturer refurb ones ($200) thru vzw's site. I'm assuming those will all be on whatever the newest bootloader version is ... this is disappointing (don't really mind running stock, just need to be rooted).
But really no kernels work on the newest OTA?
EDIT: Wow, just read the "Customizing your vzw S4" post ...
If the bootloader isn't "I545VRUAMDK" you have a locked bootloader and can only use Safestrap to install custom ROMs. Custom recovery is not possible. Attempts to install custom recovery will soft-brick your phone and require you to re-flash a stock ROM.
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That is very unfortunate. Hmm, now I'm not so sure about this purchase. Assuming the S4 gets Android "L", do you think the device will be locked down again and root will be removed permanently?
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Huh. I was planning on picking up one of the manufacturer refurb ones ($200) thru vzw's site. I'm asking those will all be on whatever the newest bootloader version is ... this is disappointing (don't really mind running stock, just need to be rooted).
But really no kernels work on the newest OTA?
EDIT: Wow, just read the "Customizing your vzw S4" post ...
That is very unfortunate. Hmm, now I'm not so sure about this purchase. Assuming the S4 gets Android "L", do you think the device will be locked down again and root will be removed permanently?
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There are a lot of great roms you can run and yes you can obtain root with the newest version nc5. Easy as pie with towelroot. Don't even need a pc. Safestrap 3.72 is what you will need if you get the latest version. You could check out swappa if you want a MK2 or maybe even a MDK. Safestrap has its own recovery and works just fine. Most of the people on here use Safestrap. You would be happier if you found one running 4.3 as opposed to 4.4.2 because of better battery life but NC5 (4.4.2) works fine and is a lttle faster probably.
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That is very unfortunate. Hmm, now I'm not so sure about this purchase. Assuming the S4 gets Android "L", do you think the device will be locked down again and root will be removed permanently?
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What's the bad part about safestrap vs. a custom recovery? I still see CM11 for the S4. Is it a lack of backups or something?
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What's the bad part about safestrap vs. a custom recovery? I still see CM11 for the S4. Is it a lack of backups or something?
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Safestrap enables you to flash roms on a locked bootloader which is pretty cool. Unfortunately the big limitation is basically that you can't touch the kernel on a locked bootloader without kexec support ( which will probably never happen) so the only roms you can flash have to be based on the same firmware that your phone has stock. No AOSP roms at all or TW roms that are newer than an OTA and no custom kernels.
All the AOSP roms you see are for MDK and Dev edition phones.
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What's the bad part about safestrap vs. a custom recovery? I still see CM11 for the S4. Is it a lack of backups or something?
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If u don't have mdk firmware safestrap only option and no cm or asop roms.
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I'm pretty happy with my phone. It's not a huge jump from the s3. I am rooted on 4.4.2 and flash roms with SS. You can flash aosp look alike roms. Also, my battery life is just fine!
s4 upgrade not worth it
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Hi all!
I've been an S3 user for a little over 1.5 years; been a native of the Sprint forums (although my Sprint S3 is flashed to Page Plus).
Now that VZW has made their prepaid plan a lot more competitive and included LTE, I'm planning on making the jump, and picking up an S4 in the process. The $ cost to me will end up being negligible, as I'm able to sell my S3 and mostly make up for the expense of the S4.
I've loved my S3 - I run a rooted stock 4.4.2 rom, debloated all the samsung & sprint crap via titanium, and a ktoonsez kernel that's been tweaked to work well with my phone - and it functions perfectly - still fast, great battery life for a ~2 year old phone, etc. Been around android for some time now (first phone was the OG incredible), so am perfectly comfortable tweaking and such, however I don't want to spend too much time doing so.
I'm reading about the S4 and curious if it's worth the upgrade. I've heard several people online complain about the verizon 4.4.2 update causing overheating and issues with the phone. If I root, debloat, and run a quality custom kernel, am I likely to have issues?
I only use my phone for web browsing, calendaring email, texting, and talking - no gaming. I'm mainly looking forward to having the nicer screen and camera, and the likely possibility of a few more Android updates (which the S3 is unlikely to get). Honestly I'd love to have the next Nexus or something that runs closer to stock, but don't have the luxury to wait around for that phone (and I want to stay on vzw's network).
I've been doing some reading around your forum and am just curious as to your thoughts on the jump S3 -> vzw S4! Pros & cons?
Thanks much,
-Dirk
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I have the samsung galaxy s4 on verizon and i wouldnt say the upgrade is really worth it from the s3. If you want to stay with samsung go with the s5 with all the newest specs. Then once you get it, if you dont like the soft ware then just flash a stock s3 rom to it and it wil be like your s3 just work a lot more efficient. In short, it is not worth the upgrade from GS3 to GS4.
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Safestrap enables you to flash roms on a locked bootloader which is pretty cool. Unfortunately the big limitation is basically that you can't touch the kernel on a locked bootloader without kexec support ( which will probably never happen) so the only roms you can flash have to be based on the same firmware that your phone has stock. No AOSP roms at all or TW roms that are newer than an OTA and no custom kernels.
All the AOSP roms you see are for MDK and Dev edition phones.
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Just an fyi for people, this isn't totally true. In the general section there is a thread about running a 4.4.4 GPE rom. I've been on the 4.4.3 version for a few days and it's great. With gravity box I can get it set up almost like a custom rom. There are a few bugs but nothing that is a deal breaker (for me)
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Just an fyi for people, this isn't totally true. In the general section there is a thread about running a 4.4.4 GPE rom. I've been on the 4.4.3 version for a few days and it's great. With gravity box I can get it set up almost like a custom rom. There are a few bugs but nothing that is a deal breaker (for me)
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Yes that's true, seems like only a few of you really have it working flawlessly though.
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Yes that's true, seems like only a few of you really have it working flawlessly though.
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I haven't been following the thread that closely, didn't realize. There are definitely issues (no usb connection is a big one) but after losing my mdk phone 2 months ago on a warranty issue, i love this rom.
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