Hello all
I apologize that I might not have all of this right, but I was looking to go from my 8.4 Pro Tablet to a HDMI input on my Flat Screen so I could watch stuff on that.
From what I have seen, there is a adapter from Samsung that will go from what is called a MHL to HDMI, which then with a HDMI patch cable I'll then plug into the Flat Screen, an will see what ever is on the tablet.
Have seen that there was a 1.0, then 2.0, then 3.0 versions of this adapter from Samsung, but from what it looks like, there is only the 2.0 & 3.0 being furnished now.
So is the 8.4 compatible with either the 2.0 or 3.0 adapter?
If it is with the 2.0 one, would it also work the 3.0 too, an if so, should I go with that one, or is it just money wasted?
Basically have tried to find specs on the 8.4 that states it has MHL capabilities, but as well if it is, which version it is?
Basically want to know too, the main reason I want to do this is that they offer NFL Game Pass on the mobile stuff, an I was just hoping I could plug in the 8.4 to the TV, an what the games, even with the right cable, does anyone know if that will work?
Thanks for any help.
MHL 3.0 should support resolutions up to 4k and it should work with the 8.4, however MHL can be tricky since root and custom roms can break support (some protected content might not work ), and be really careful when purchasing MHL adapters since about 90% are fake Chinese knockoffs, it is very hard to tell if it is a genuine one, playback should be smooth and you should get 30~Fps in 4k Video and 60 Fps 1080p, Chinese versions are usually like 30fps @ 1080p and the quality is pretty bad or laggy, build quality might be less (like misaligned parts, lighter weight), they tend to overheat too making connection drop-but again very hard to tell - you can try going on to Samsung live help and checking the serial/model number usually they will tell if its real or not.
MHL 2.0 is for resolutions up to [email protected]
also MHL 2.0 can only feed back 500mA~1A back to the tablet, so the battery on the tablet might still drain faster then it can charge.
I have not tested MHL 3.0 on my device, but from my reading the Snapdragon 800 should be MHL 3.0 compatible, and MHL 3.0 can supposedly feed 10W(2A) back to the device for charging- as long as Samsung kept everything in spec it should work. - It's up to you if you want to risk it not being compatible, but the up-side is MHL3.0 is backwards compatible with MHL 2.0 so it will just fall back to 1080p if not fully supported.
Though you might want to consider using Screen Mirroring instead- I usually use that more then my MHL adapter since it's quick and easy to use, just enable wireless display / Screen Mirroring on the tablet (even works with custom roms), and connect to the TV (I have a Mid-range Samsung TV so wireless display is already built in, but for other tv's you might need a Chromecast/MiraCast or similar to connect) - then you can play a video / game ..etc - no wires needed -the only downside is if wifi is unstable it can disconnect that can be annoying. (also you can be connected to your router and connected to the TV at the same time-so you can use the internet still-usually doesn't require the tv to be on the same network either since it's using "wifi direct". although this can probably vary among different Chromecast devices / TVs.)-Check you tv as it might have support already.
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Does the new I9100 Galaxy S2 have analogic TV-Out, via 3.5 jack ? Apart from MHL.
My I9000 Galaxy S has, and it works well with a Nokia CA-75U cable.
On gsmarena they only mention TV-out (via MHL A/V link) (and i'm not even sure what that means - a HDMI-out ?). Anyway, all i want is to connect the phone to a TV that only has RCA or SCART inputs.
Thank you.
I have report from an owner who is reliable that his Nokia 3.5mm TV Out cable is not working with the SGSII. I can confirm this tomorrow when I get my phone also.
If I'm not mistaken TV out is only supported via the miniUSB plug to a HDMI socket, with a 1080p maximum resolution. The cable doesn't come supplied with the phone though.
not working with the cable from my old n95. SGS1 did support this. Might be due to the cable being half broken, but I think it just doesn't support it.
I was hoping both methods were simultaneously available, like with Nokia N8.
Just to confirm does not work for me either (on the plus side my cheap Ebay USB OTG cable does work).
Damn. So it's either HDMI out (when they get around to releasing the adapter...) or nothing?
For full mirroring, yes. There is the option to share media via DLNA of course, but I suspect that like me you really need mirroring...
NZtechfreak said:
For full mirroring, yes. There is the option to share media via DLNA of course, but I suspect that like me you really need mirroring...
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Is mirroring via MHL confirmed?
I have not seen a single video or post confirming this.
You're quite right, mirroring isn't confirmed.
OMG!bad news，s2 cant tvout via 3.5 jack to my old tv！
This way, they sort of make us buy a new HD tv with digital inputs...
johnniewalker39 said:
This way, they sort of make us buy a new HD tv with digital inputs...
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I think that it is also representative of the new technology. Honestly, I think RCA connectors are outdated and doesn't really make sense.
RCA uses analog, and most TVs now-a-days are digital. Almost no technology runs on analog anymore, so for phones like Nokia to output RCA, it has to have a chip inside to convert from Digital to an Analog output... Then when it reaches your TV, if it is a digital tv, then it has to convert the analog back to digital. At this point - not only is the resolution decreased, but the signal starts to artifact from converting from digital -> analog -> digital again.
I guess this means that people have to upgrade from their CRT/legacy LCD tvs that only accept RCA/AV inputs.
And for the even older CRT TVs, too bad for them because there's no support for coaxial out.
Now that would be cool -- a coaxial out cable for old TVs, in case we ever discover time travel, and want to show the future to people from the 80s on a nice big 19" color CRT TV.
http://www.dealextreme.com/p/1440p-v1-4-micro-hdmi-male-to-hdmi-female-connector-adapter-48136
I'm getting one this week (I hope)
And will post how it's working
cvenk said:
http://www.dealextreme.com/p/1440p-v1-4-micro-hdmi-male-to-hdmi-female-connector-adapter-48136
I'm getting one this week (I hope)
And will post how it's working
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Just some warning - I'm not sure if that will work since it's not an MHL USB-HDMI cable.
If it works at all, it won't be able to charge your phone and display HDMI at the same time because of the way it's designed.
If you don't want to buy the real cable, I saw a generic version here:
http://www.expansys-usa.com/expansys-mhl-to-hdmi-adapter-black-218572/
If you wait another month (I believe June is the month that the supply is supposedly being produced), I think China will have some copies made soon. For complete functionality and compatibility, make sure the cable meets and complies with MHL standards.
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Just some warning - I'm not sure if that will work since it's not an MHL USB-HDMI cable.
If it works at all, it won't be able to charge your phone and display HDMI at the same time because of the way it's designed.
If you don't want to buy the real cable, I saw a generic version here:
http://www.expansys-usa.com/expansys-mhl-to-hdmi-adapter-black-218572/
If you wait another month (I believe June is the month that the supply is supposedly being produced), I think China will have some copies made soon. For complete functionality and compatibility, make sure the cable meets and complies with MHL standards.
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This was already discussed, this cable does not work! (The DX's one)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFG4S7g0_Ls&feature=youtube_gdata_player
HML tv-out adapter for sgs2. $78 on ebay.
The official Samsung HDMI adapter doesn't look to be out for quite a while yet but there's one by BizLite over at Mobile Fun that should be in over the next fortnight (website says 9-14 days)
Cheaper than the official one too. Agreed that it's quite annoying having no TV-out on the 3.5mm jack!
There is maybe a hope.
Exynos 4210 supports composite output. If SGS2 has connected jack 3.5 to Exynos Composite Video Output soldered, there is a hope.
Hi all I need composite video out to connect phone to car video system - so it`s my only hope to get it from 3.5 jack somehow... or is it possible to convert hdmi to composite or component?
Do you guys think if I hook a microusb to hdmi adaptar it would connect to the tv. Think it would show a picture?also along those lines....whatabout a microusb to usb adapter for wireless 360 controller? think it would work?
Wired 360 controller works. Wireless does not.
thanks! i wondered about that. i know sony tablet doesnt have hdmi support. i just want my tablet to show up on my tv. anyone know a way to do it. and i dont mean dnla. i want to run my emulators on the tablet through the tv
I'm pretty certain that this is not possible. The HDMI-out used in microUSB adapters requires hardware in the device. As far as I am aware, the Sony doesn't include this capability. The USb port would need to be wired to the display output which the Sony doesn't have. Sony doesn't include a hardware display output since Sony's plan for their mobile devices (the same thing that lead to quite a few of the Sony's unique features) includes more support for future technologies like DLNA.
Have you seen the vscreens app? Am pretty sure that if you had an android powered tv device (a google tv box perhaps), you might be able to see the tablet on the tv by pairing the 2 screens. Though I dont have a google box, so cant test this theory!
For replacement of the HDMI port I am waiting for a stick called "Xbounds".
Just use Google and you will find some very interesting videos. The developer dreamchip is on a fair end of April, maybe there he will offer some news
To have output video from the micro usb the port must be a MHL port, and the Tablet S port isn't. So I think it's impossible to have video out with this tablet.
Having a few problems with mirroring my Z2 tablet to a TV/projector. Just wondered if anyone could shed any light on some of the issues I am having as I seem to have reached a dead end.
I connect my xperia Z2 tablet to a none MHL projector using the Sony IM750 MHL adapter to present course slides at work and use it to connect to a none MHL TV at home. The picture is good but the adapter uses the power source and this drains the battery slowly from the tablet. I think the reason for this is that the IM750 is MHL 1.1. The tablet supports upto MHL 3.0 but as yet there does not seem to be any compatible adapters that are will work with the z2 tablet above MHL 1. If there was I am assuming that this would allow more current to get to the tablet and less or none at all would be drained from the tablet battery? Samsung currently sell an MHL 2.0 adapter but this will not work with the z2 tablet as it is has a 11 pin fitting rather than a 5 pin. I wish that someone out there would make a 5pin MHL 2.0 or even better MHL3.0 adapter that would work with the tablet, I have spent many hours on the internet but cannot find one.
I have also tried miracast to connect my tablet to my LG TV but there is noticeable lag and the screen can be glitchy at times. Does anyone know whether this would be the case if I used the netgear PTV3000? would it be better than the TV and is it worth a punt from amazon I suppose I could always return it if it does not work as well as I like.
Any ideas anyone it just doesn't seem at the moment that there is a reliable solution to connect the Z2 tablet to a projector or TV or has anyone found anything better?
If you don't need screen mirroring (do you need it? Really???), then other possibilities to bring video or photo to a screen are MUCH better / more problem-free and widely recommended than MHL or Miracast.
- Chromecast
- Android TV sticks / boxes which can receive content via DLNA
- Raspberry Pi with XBMC
- Other mini computer (like Intel NUC) with XBMC, Plex or something like that.
Stop bothering with MHL or Miracast, it will save your nerves.
Yes tell me about it it's a real pain. I have quite specific needs so I think I probably do need to mirror. I work as a trainer giving presentations all over the place so I need something that is not dependant on having a wifi signal as it tends to be poor at best at places that I work, so mhl and miracast do seem like my only options as they don't require connection to a router. As far as I am aware there doesn't seem to be a perfect option for none Samsung android tablets which is disappointing as I am big fan of my z2. I might have to go back to my win 8 laptop which I don't really want to do. I can't understand why there is not a 5 pin mhl 2.0 adapter.
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If you don't need screen mirroring (do you need it? Really???), then other possibilities to bring video or photo to a screen are MUCH better / more problem-free and widely recommended than MHL or Miracast.
- Chromecast
- Android TV sticks / boxes which can receive content via DLNA
- Raspberry Pi with XBMC
- Other mini computer (like Intel NUC) with XBMC, Plex or something like that.
Stop bothering with MHL or Miracast, it will save your nerves.
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I think the issue, is Chromecast requires the user to be part of a Wifi Network to connect?If you're in a location where there is no Wifi available, well........
Hi All,
I want to mirror my le max 2 screen to tv via hdmi. I tried using a USB-c to HDMI cable with built in charging but it did not work. USB-c connected to my phone , hdmi connected to TV and USB connected to normal charger. Now some questions as
Q1. Does le max 2 support MHL?
Q2. If i go for HDMi dongle will it work does it support miracast? What about chromecast will it work?
Thanks in advance for any help.
Needs extra hardware and software
chetan_korde said:
Hi All,
I want to mirror my le max 2 screen to tv via hdmi. I tried using a USB-c to HDMI cable with built in charging but it did not work. USB-c connected to my phone , hdmi connected to TV and USB connected to normal charger. Now some questions as
Q1. Does le max 2 support MHL?
Q2. If i go for HDMi dongle will it work does it support miracast? What about chromecast will it work?
Thanks in advance for any help.
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There is no MHL hardware on the phone and typically MHL support drivers aren't open source so they won't work with CM.
Miracast is supposed to be supported, I don't have a receiver so I can't tell.
Chromecast isn't exactly screen mirroring, but there is no reason why it shouldn't support the limited functionality it targets.
What might work (haven't tried it with this phone yet) is connecting a DisplayLink adapter via USB. You'd need to install and run their application on top and there is a good chance it won't support stuff like 3D games, because it basically needs to copy, encode, compress etc. frame buffer contents and ship them over the USB interface as data while they are being reconverted into video on the DL hardware.
I think it's a real shame straight-forward HDMI ports got dropped on phones years ago. I'm pretty sure it was because vendors wanted to sell distinct settop devices and Hollywood didn't want "phone" content on TV screens, not because users didn't want them.
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There is no MHL hardware on the phone and typically MHL support drivers aren't open source so they won't work with CM.
Miracast is supposed to be supported, I don't have a receiver so I can't tell.
Chromecast isn't exactly screen mirroring, but there is no reason why it shouldn't support the limited functionality it targets.
What might work (haven't tried it with this phone yet) is connecting a DisplayLink adapter via USB. You'd need to install and run their application on top and there is a good chance it won't support stuff like 3D games, because it basically needs to copy, encode, compress etc. frame buffer contents and ship them over the USB interface as data while they are being reconverted into video on the DL hardware.
I think it's a real shame straight-forward HDMI ports got dropped on phones years ago. I'm pretty sure it was because vendors wanted to sell distinct settop devices and Hollywood didn't want "phone" content on TV screens, not because users didn't want them.
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Chromecast does support screen mirroring.
Hi. Has anyone tried using a USB C-to-HDMI cable to connect Mate 10 to a monitor. How do you like it? Do apps scale well on monitor? Assuming you hooked up a bluetooth keyboard and mouse, have you tried editing a document? Thanks!
still waiting for my Mate 10! But one of the reasons for getting one is USB-C to HDMI. One thing I noted when sourcing a cable - if you use a "standard" cable you won't be able to stream Netflix/Amazon streaming due to lack of "HDCP" compliance. I got a cable that was compliant for a few euro more on Amazon. Just keep this in mind if you want to stream Netflix etc.
Does anyone know if this would work with a Surface Pro 4? The SP4 has a mini display port, so maybe with a mini display port adapter, we can connect Mate 10 to the SP4 and view desktop mode on the tablet. Would that work?
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still waiting for my Mate 10! But one of the reasons for getting one is USB-C to HDMI. One thing I noted when sourcing a cable - if you use a "standard" cable you won't be able to stream Netflix/Amazon streaming due to lack of "HDCP" compliance. I got a cable that was compliant for a few euro more on Amazon. Just keep this in mind if you want to stream Netflix etc.
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So how and where to buy a cable to bypass this restriction, I am trying to play xfinity app and it tells me there is a restriction OMG wth it becoming Apple this android
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So how and where to buy a cable to bypass this restriction, I am trying to play xfinity app and it tells me there is a restriction OMG wth it becoming Apple this android
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Well the cable I have purchased is the one linked below - which the manufacturer says (elsewhere) is the HDCP compliant one. I can't guarantee you that it will work though!
I am expecting my phone and this cable this week so will try out!
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B06XS7T4GP
NOTE - this manufacturer also sells usb-c to hdmi cables that it says are NOT compliant. Only one above is one they say is compliant.
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Well the cable I have purchased is the one linked below - which the manufacturer says (elsewhere) is the HDCP compliant one. I can't guarantee you that it will work though!
I am expecting my phone and this cable this week so will try out!
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B06XS7T4GP
NOTE - this manufacturer also sells usb-c to hdmi cables that it says are NOT compliant. Only one above is one they say is compliant.
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Thanks I'll look for it here in Amazon US, no problem returning so might as well try.
I tried it out briefly when I got the phone.
I used a type c to HDMI adapter, with a normal HDMI cable.
Some things I noticed:
I think this drained the battery more than anything else I've done with the phone (including gaming).
The phone was noticeable warm after the session.
My phone rebooted shortly after the desktop session. Like it crashed.
The phone states it's in reverse charge mode, like juice is also bring drained from the phone to the TV.
I couldn't get YouTube to work full screen without borders. Unless I was mirroring the phone screen (which means phone screen also remains on).
I've mixed feelings, it's early days I guess.
Ok, I am still waiting for the cable from Amazon but ended up purchasing an adaptor from Maplin.
Worked fine - as in outputted screen of phone (in phone or 'desktop' mode).
But I did notice that the screen resolution as outputted was far less than the resolution of the screen - I would have expected the 1080p display to mirror across to the TV.
It wasn't that it was bad, just blurry text and not crisp when looking at video. Whereas in the past, with a phone with an actual hdmi connection as opposed to usb-c, or indeed when outputting a media player with hdmi or casting using chromecast, the quality is perfect.
Perhaps I'm doing something wrong or perhaps the Maplin cable is not up to speed. Open to ideas.
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Ok, I am still waiting for the cable from Amazon but ended up purchasing an adaptor from Maplin.
Worked fine - as in outputted screen of phone (in phone or 'desktop' mode).
But I did notice that the screen resolution as outputted was far less than the resolution of the screen - I would have expected the 1080p display to mirror across to the TV.
It wasn't that it was bad, just blurry text and not crisp when looking at video. Whereas in the past, with a phone with an actual hdmi connection as opposed to usb-c, or indeed when outputting a media player with hdmi or casting using chromecast, the quality is perfect.
Perhaps I'm doing something wrong or perhaps the Maplin cable is not up to speed. Open to ideas.
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Interesting. Sounds like you are using Mate 10 Pro. Wonder if resolution is improved using Mate 10.
Jamdonut said:
I tried it out briefly when I got the phone.
I used a type c to HDMI adapter, with a normal HDMI cable.
Some things I noticed:
I think this drained the battery more than anything else I've done with the phone (including gaming).
The phone was noticeable warm after the session.
My phone rebooted shortly after the desktop session. Like it crashed.
The phone states it's in reverse charge mode, like juice is also bring drained from the phone to the TV.
I couldn't get YouTube to work full screen without borders. Unless I was mirroring the phone screen (which means phone screen also remains on).
I've mixed feelings, it's early days I guess.
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I was wondering about the battery drainage. Some cables I've seen have an additional input for charger. Maybe that might help
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Interesting. Sounds like you are using Mate 10 Pro. Wonder if resolution is improved using Mate 10.
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No, normal Mate 10.
Other cable arrived and same situation. To clarify, it's fine, and perfectly watchable, just not crystal clear. It strikes me that this method seems like the usb-c to hdmi cable is simply mirroring the display of the phone rather than actually outputting the video file itself independently - as would happen with a HDMI connection as you used to get on some phones. Perhaps this is something to do with the issue.
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No, normal Mate 10.
Other cable arrived and same situation. To clarify, it's fine, and perfectly watchable, just not crystal clear. It strikes me that this method seems like the usb-c to hdmi cable is simply mirroring the display of the phone rather than actually outputting the video file itself independently - as would happen with a HDMI connection as you used to get on some phones. Perhaps this is something to do with the issue.
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......hope you post result of amazon cable! have a nice day!
It was amazon cable I referred to above. So same with maplin adaptor and amazon cable. Tried outputting a HD YouTube video but not much different. As I say, fine, but not as clear as would expect if you copied that file to a media player attached to a tv via hdmi
Hooked mine up with the Huawei supercharger and cable and it slowly drains the battery in desktop mode. Without charger it will suck down the battery fast. Benched with Antutu and got 175k on phone. In desktop on 30" monitor got 157k. Still faster than my Mate 9. My S8+ in Dex was just about worthless. Also with the M10 in desktop with wired mouse has zero lag. Bluetooth mouse a different story. So gaming is pretty good on a monitor.
Ok, I "solved" my problem by fluke. I would love if someone more techy than me could explain but this is what I did to fix the fact that the HDMI output looked more like 640x480 than a hi def picture.
Went to TV settings, and selected advanced, HDMI settings, and Changed HDMI "Auto" mode to HDMI Graphic mode (choice of Graphic/Video - video was default and was crap). As soon as I did this I had perfect outputted photos and videos.
According to one tv manual I found on a search:
"Graphic: HDMI input timing set to Graphic mode (PC) - The image is full scan.
Video: HDMI input timing set to Video mode. The image is over scan."
According to someone on a completely unrelated PS4 forum:
"Basically by changing the HDMI mode to graphic, the HDMI output (be it gaming console, pc, or cable) bypasses "extra" processing features of the TV that
make the game and TV broadcasts look crappy and also causes lag. By bypassing those features you will get a much clearer picture."
Either way, it's fixed. On my tv. And on a shop tv the same issue. So given that I've connected previous phones with hdmi connections a few years ago without issues, this suggests that it is something to do with how the Mate 10 outputs signals in a way that TV recognises?
Love to hear an explanation from the experts. Thanks.
Edit: someone else with a similar issue on another device - so it seems the issue is that the Mate 10 is not recognised by most Televisions as a "PC" which would correct hdmi mode to "graphics" ?
"When I switch between the Blu-Ray and the PC on two separate HDMI inputs, the TV doesn't detect that's it's connected to a PC, so it doesn't switch from video to graphics mode - which is required for it to look good as a computer monitor.
Since the TV deosn't recognize the PC and auto switch to graphics mode, when I switch from Blu-Ray to PC, I have to dig down into the menu and switch the HDMI mode to graphics manually - and then back when I go to the Blu-Ray. -- Major pain if I'm switching back and forth."
Any ideas? Is this something Huawei could fix in firmware?
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Any ideas? Is this something Huawei could fix in firmware?
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It looks like its related to the TV resolution : I have the same issue (640*480 resolution) when I connect the mate 10 pro to a 4K native TV but it works perfect when connected to a full HD TV !! It's a shame as 4K tend to be the standard display, so I guess Huawei should fix it whith a firmware update. Any other solution (HDMI 2.0 cable maybe??) ?