Hello all. It's been a long time since I've been to this section of XDA, glad to see it's still got some life left.
I'm trying to get my old i777 working so a friend of mine can borrow it. If I remember correctly, it was running an AOKP rom when I stored it well over a year ago, and it was fine. Today I went to turn it on, nothing. I started charging it, let it go for a few hours. It still won't turn on; instead it's acting a bit strange. Every few seconds the screen flashes either the gray battery charging logo, an instant dim flash of the entire screen (a slight gray, nothing bright), or the home/back/etc buttons flash for an instant. When the charge logo appears, the screen brightens just before it goes off. All buttons are unresponsive, my computer does not recognize it. I've been unsuccessful in finding any real help with Google and searching XDA. The only advice I found was to plug it in without the battery, then put the battery in. This did not help. Any feedback would be appreciated - this little phone has a lot of sentimental value to me. It's been through hell and back, it survived my ex (who managed to break a Nokia 3310 and Nokia 920). If I have to put it to rest, I guess it's earned it, but I'd like to keep it going for just a while longer.
Did you store it away with the battery in the phone? If so, in a year, the battery could be completely drained and in some cases, that can cause a problem with charging, as in will not charge. Possibilities to test, use a fully charged battery by charging the existing battery with an external charger, or by using another battery. This would be the first thing I would try.
I am also having such a problem from time to time, when my battery is complitely drained. I am using such a device to bring the battery back to life. Always helps.
I usually plug mine into a higher powered charger like my s6 one and that gets it out of the loop.
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Hey Folks,
I have a Samsung Galaxy SII (SGH-i777) that I used a couple of years ago. It was my first Android phone and I loved it very much (until corporate made me an iSheep).
The phone was retired to a shoe box for the last 1+ years and I recently dug it up so I could get it set up for my little bro who somehow recently fell on his phone with it in his pocket and shattered the screen (don't ask... I don't get it either).
Anyways long story short -- the phone sat idle for a long time, when I pulled it out it wouldn't boot up at all. Assumed that the battery had discharged so I plugged it in to see if it would start up. The battery logo would intermittently flash on the screen and show a drained battery logo but even letting the phone sit for a day did not provide me any results.
Fast forward 3-6 months. Today I replaced the charging board thinking that there was some issue with the USB connector on the phone that was preventing it from getting power. Once that was done I discovered that I was able to get the phone to boot into Odin mode. Great! No boot, no recovery, but download mode seemed to be better than nothing.
I have tried, in vain, to flash stock firmware to this phone via Odin, and even though all indicators point to it being successful, once I finish the Samsung logo comes up on the screen, goes off and that's it. I can see the 4 LEDs on the buttons at the bottom of the phone flash every 5 seconds as well as a faint flicker on the screen staggered between the LED flashes.
Looking for any further suggestions as to what I may be able to try. I have searched various sources on XDA and other sources but I haven't quite found anything that matches my exact symptoms.
Furthermore, I can't be sure what Kernel/ROM I was last running on this phone. Maybe Siyah kernel, maybe CM 10,1 with Flux kernel. Idk.
Any input is appreciated!
Seems I should mention this other detail --
With the battery in, I cannot get into download mode -- it just states 'Low Battery!! Can't Download!!" This is presumably due to the fact that the battery is completely discharged -- maybe incapable of holding a charge but perhaps this is indicative of a more serious hardware failure.
I'd guess the battery is completely shot.
I bought a replacement battery from here: http://www.ebay.com/itm/111014533334?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649
No problems with it.
bleggy said:
I'd guess the battery is completely shot.
I bought a replacement battery from here: http://www.ebay.com/itm/111014533334?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649
No problems with it.
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Very likely --
Since you got me to shift focus here, a quick search is telling me that it won't boot without a battery due to a feedback circuit. This would explain the ability to go into download mode but the lack of boot / flashing LEDs I guess.
Can someone confirm?
If the phone was working normally when it was put away, I would expect it to be working normally when it was pulled it back out. Your story is a little confusing, but did you ever try booting the phone with a fully charged battery? In the circumstances you describe, that would be the first logical trouble shooting step. And if you haven't tried that, then it is still the next logical trouble shooting step. Also, you can't assume that the original battery that you left in the phone is still able to hold a charge. It still may be good, but you can't assume that for testing purposes. Incidentally, the battery should have been pulled from the phone before it was put away.
I do not get any indication that the original battery is actually charging. Charging icon just flashes on the screen briefly in between LED and screen flashes (again, presumably due to the battery being completely dead/incapable of holding a charge since I left it in the phone this entire time).
I guess I'll go ahead and buy another battery and see what happens.
It is my understanding then that this phone will not boot on the charger without battery due to a feedback circuit. Correct?
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I do not get any indication that the original battery is actually charging. Charging icon just flashes on the screen briefly in between LED and screen flashes (again, presumably due to the battery being completely dead/incapable of holding a charge since I left it in the phone this entire time).
I guess I'll go ahead and buy another battery and see what happens.
It is my understanding then that this phone will not boot on the charger without battery due to a feedback circuit. Correct?
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Even if the battery is good, but fully discharged, it may not charge in the phone. You would have to have an external charger. Phones are not consistent, and many phones probably would charge a fully discharged battery, but I have seen a number of people report that a fully discharged battery would cause the exact same behavior as you report. If it were mine, I wouldn't throw the battery away yet.
If you know anyone with an I777, you could borrow their fully charged battery for a few minutes just to see if your phone will boot.
You are correct that the phone will not boot on the charger when the battery is out, although you should be able to successfully flash firmware through Odin with the battery out, and the computer supplying the power, but still, as far as I know, it will not boot after the flash without a working battery.
The battery was indeed at fault. Ordered a new one on Amazon, popped it in and voila -- we're up and running.
Thanks for the input guys! Much appreciated!
Piece of cake. Although the replacement is a bit lower MhA it's a lot better than the old battery
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Piece of cake.
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That's nice to know. Is there a step-by-step guide for it?
Although the replacement is a bit lower MhA it's a lot better than the old battery
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Which replacement battery did you get?
http://www.batteryship.com/htmlos/htmlos.cgi/batteryship/catalog.html
You even get free tools and they are not junk
How to that I used ... Hard to get pass the women robot talking LOL
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3F0glSyvj2s
At first I wondered about this being a smaller battery if it would run down fast. It doesn't !!! Works very well !!!
I changed out my battery with one from the above site, but now every time I plug a USB cable in it to charge it immediately shuts off. Anyone have any ideas what could cause this? Wonder if I got a bad battery..
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I changed out my battery with one from the above site, but now every time I plug a USB cable in it to charge it immediately shuts off. Anyone have any ideas what could cause this? Wonder if I got a bad battery..
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That could be a bad/shorted battery. Mine is still going strong! I would try and reverse everything and start over. When I did mine my vol controls didn't work. Didn't have the connector snapped down good enough
I was looking at this one (still am actually although the one you got is cheaper):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3F0glSyvj2s
http://www.newpower99.com/Barnes_No...cement_Kit_p/barnes and noble nook tablet.htm
I am still trying to see if there is a setting that somehow caused my NT to freak out when the battery reaches 23%
But I have this bad feeling I will need to purchase a new battery. By the way, if the nook just shuts off watch the screen closely it usually says "battery too low" for a second before switching off. And if that is the case after plugging it in, you likely have a bad one and I would call the company to get a replacement.
I have been looking around and the only new replacement batteries I find are the two mentioned and both are 3200mh rather than 4000 of the original. How is your battery life since you changed it? Seems like it should be 1/4th what we had when new (or close to it). Or don't you really notice at this point? I have thought about ebay but then they are used batteries and you have no idea how many cycles are left, and likely hold 1/4th less anyway due to their age. *shurgs* not sure which way to go. As of now I am still having a "freak out" situation at about 23% (roughly). If it doesn't get any worse I can live with that, but from what I have read it will only get worse. :/
Anyone know of a battery app I could use to "adjust" the shut down threashold? I have one that will alert me to whatever I set so if I am not watching it will warn me so that will work if I don't have one that will actually shut it down. I know the "calibrating" apps don't do anything except delete the one file that is only usage stats from the last time it was plugged in, so I don't think there is a real way to calibrate it.
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And on another note with the "spare parts" app the 'battery history' option errors with "the application spare parts ) process.com.andriod.spare_parts_ has topped unexpectedly, please try again." Is this normal? It is version 2.3.7. NT Hidden Settings app application settings/battery use works fine and shows the amount of everything that has used the battery since it was last plugged in/charged. Could this error be a sign of the problem with the phantom touches and inaccurate battery display? And if it is a sign of something broken, what and how do I fix it?
I received a replacement battery and it is doing the same thing, so somehow during the battery switch something got wonkey with my nook. It charges OK just powers off to do it. Since it's used by my kids now it's not essential to be on while charging, but I'd still like to figure this out.
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I received a replacement battery and it is doing the same thing, so somehow during the battery switch something got wonkey with my nook. It charges OK just powers off to do it. Since it's used by my kids now it's not essential to be on while charging, but I'd still like to figure this out.
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Which battery did you get? And very strange it shuts off when you plug it in. Never seen or heard of that before. It should boot up if off. Or do you mean the screen goes off/goes to sleep but not full shut down when you plug it in? If it is going to sleep, that is likely a app or setting that is doing it. Not sure which but you might want to check any battery apps you have or your settings. It would also depend on which ROM you are running, stock (which I am running) or something else.
Both batteries were the one mentioned in the original post. It doesn't go to sleep when I plug it in, it completely shuts off like no power at all. It will not boot up until I unplug the USB from a power source, although it will fully charge while it is plugged in. I've never seen anything like this and I've been messing with android since my original moto droid 1.
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Both batteries were the one mentioned in the original post. It doesn't go to sleep when I plug it in, it completely shuts off like no power at all. It will not boot up until I unplug the USB from a power source, although it will fully charge while it is plugged in. I've never seen anything like this and I've been messing with android since my original moto droid 1.
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Very strange indeed. The only thing I would say to do is turn the USB debugging on and off a few times, to see if that makes a difference. It shouldn't but if you tried two different brands of battery, sounds like it is the hardware on the nook. But that is one really weird bug.
Something interesting I discovered. While I did get a new battery, I decided to do some experimenting. Researching this issue a lot of people said you need to delete the "battery file". There even use to be a option in CWM to remove this file. The thing is the file is deleted every time you plug in the device. So that is not going to help.
Further digging found that some devices you need to plug them in and let them charge. Or run them down for say 20-30 minutes without sleeping then plug in and let it charge fully. For some devices this "resets" the battery management system.
What I found in my tests is the battery gets harder to charge with age. While the little n light might show green, it is likely only 80% charge sometimes 90%. And it takes awhile for it to really get to 100%. What I did was let it charge up to that full 100% which may take hours. I got a nice battery app that alerts me when it gets below 25% after that things can get crazy with phantom touches. I also have it set to give a audio alert when it reaches 100%, this way I know when it is fully charged.
I know the charge it fully (when it actually says 100% and I get a audio alert when this happens) before 50% or so has helped a lot. At one point the phantom touches started to happen at higher than 25% reaching almost 35%, last time I did a test to see when phantom touches started was 17% so it is much better. Not to the level when I bought the device, but still very useable.
I will put in the new battery sometime I am sure as it is taking longer and longer to reach the full 100% (but that is normal for lithium ion batteries.) it is certainly useable in this state and the phantom touch issue is not getting worse. I think the biggest issue was charging it until the n light went green and as the battery ages, the battery manger gets thrown off for some reason and charging to the true 100% helps recalibrate it.
Therefore I would run it for 20 minutes without letting it go to sleep, then charge until it is really full (usually leave it plugged in overnight and that should do it). Do this a few times and see if the battery is better.
Oh another thing I did. Power it off fully (hold down power button then tap shutoff) then plug it in to charge. Let the charger wake, reboot, and charge the device. This I also think helps recalibrate the system. Although I never did it when I ran it for 20 minutes then charged to full. But I am sure powering off then plugging in to charge at times made a difference as well.
I've just bought one of these batteries, hoping it'll be better than my old one.
It should be. It won't be quite as it was when it was new, as these new batteries don't have the capacity compared to the originals that B&N installed (perhaps a hour or two less runtime compared to the originals). But it will be better than a well used Nook Tablet battery that is fading fast.
I don't know if I need a new battery just yet, but I am experiencing the issue of the power being killed when plugging the Nook into the wall or USB (which means transfers over an SD card, which is a pain). I only spent $5 to get it and I can see why someone might have thought it was broken, since they probably plugged it in to charge it but it wouldn't turn on while plugged in. It does charge while off, however.
What I've noticed in my experience is that if I turn it on, I can plug it in while the Nook is on the N screen, and then it'll go to the Cynoboot screen still plugged in, but the second it goes to boot the OS it turns off.
Anyone have any ideas on why it would allow itself to be on until it tries to boot to the OS?
So I have an odd issue here... I have a tmobile v10 that suddenly stopped working. Can't boot up or anything anymore. Here's some events (not in order) that have happened. I dropped my phone about 6 months ago and cracked the screen. Was fine up until about a month ago. I pulled it out of my pocket one day and it was off. Thought I had accidentally turned it off while in my pocket, so I went to power it back on, but nothing. It wouldn't boot up at all. Thought my battery died so I plugged it in, but again, nothing. for the next couple of days I was able to randomly get it to power up and boot up to the main home screen. After a few seconds it would freeze and then shut off on it's on, sometimes rebooting automatically, but never making it passed the "LG" splash screen. Any who, before all this the phone ran fine, no issues. I didn't update anything or add any odd ball apps. I got it to show some life when plugging into the computer via the lg usb cable with the battery removed, but as soon as I threw the battery back in and try to reboot, nothing.
The other odd thing I noticed is that when I threw a charged battery in it, it would kill the life of the battery (verified by placing a charged battery in the dead v10 and then after trying to boot, removing and placing back in my good v10 and checking battery life). It would always say it was either 0% or 5% when I put it back in the good v10. The batteries will still charge on the good v10 so I don't think the batteries are bad (one is a brand new LG brand battery).
I'm leaning towards the prongs being shot on the battery connector that's on the motherboard, rather than the charging port. Anyone ever have this issue or even hear of it? I did some searching online but realized I didn't even know what to look up to find what I was looking for.
Any help will be greatly appreciated and thanks in advance.
Sorry for the story, just trying to give as much details as possible. I'm sure I forgot some stuff, but I'll edit/update as I remember them. Thanks.
Hello guys, so, a friend of mine gave me his old RAZR xt910 after some begging, he was going to throw it away. This phone came to me with a dead battery and a shattered screen. First, the phone wasn't turning on, but would turn on and stuck on bootlogo only - with the charger (ac). I managed to hard reset it and load Android throu BP TOOLS (vol up down + charger), after taking the battery away, Running on charger only, - this was a new "gold" 3030mah aftermarket battery that was put in there by my friend one year ago. I was pretty impressed since it turned on without battery, like, wtf!. I tried to install CyanogenMod but could get to safestrap since it was asking for a battery ((?) image when on charger). Recently he brought me the old original battery - the one he tried to swap for the new one. It was all good, I put it back in and booted with 99%, but it depleted quickly. The phone refuses to charge it, wherever it is on or off, ((? Image when it's off, again)… it says OVERHEATING when it's on and then enters a cool down phase in which I can only do emergency calls, nothing else. On cpu-z it shows battery as Overheat at 80c (doesn't show variation). It also shows Overheat when without battery so I'm guessing this is preventing charge, but the energy flows well through the phone. Cyanogens turn the phone immediately off after optimizing apps on first boot (I guess it's because the wrong temperature data). I'm afraid... should i spend 15 dollars to try the luck on a new battery?, is the temperature sensor installed on the battery or the phone? Anyone booting from CHARGER ONLY, NO BATTERY INSTALLED getting "Overheat" status on cpu-z temperature readings? I would like to fix this phone to keep it... I like collecting phones.
After the battery depleted I managed to recharge it alone on a.universal charger, manually. I can't say its a comfortable way to charge it, but still the only way. Unfortunately I threw the "new battery" away so I can't say if it would say "Overheat " too to determine if it's a phones problem. Big fault
Hello, recently my phone was having some serious battery life issues. It started with just draining fast, then it would turn off prematurely at 10%, then 20%, then 50%, then it would basically not run without a charging cable. My fix was to just plug in a power bank and keep it like that, and it was working fine for a while. Then I noticed it wouldn't charge with the stock charger. I would plug it in, worked for a few minutes, get to 100%, turn off, then go down to ~95% and die. So I was only using it with my power bank.
Today, I plugged it in as usual, and it just started doing a bootloop. Then it just turned off and refused to work! It won't power on with neither the original charger or the powerbank. Add insult to injury, there's this tiny LED notification light I had never seen before that's blinking. Now it's not blinking any more. I just plugged in the powerbank and NOW it looks like it's working. Oh no, was too optimistic, it's back at the rebooting thing. It's just the first screen for 5-15 seconds, goes black, then repeats. God I hate this phone,
So now it's next to me just powering on and off. Please help, I would appreciate it greatly!
It's probably that your battery is just done. I had similar issues to you. My battery would drop a percent a minute or less while in use, and was shutting down at 50 percent or so.
I just got the battery replaced and it's back to how it was new. I had a z2 play that was laggy and likely had freezing issues due to minor water damage. I'm so much happier with my newly refurbished Z. It's just a much better and smoother phone, period.
The batteries are like 10 bucks. Just need someone to install it. The Moto z battery replacement is rated difficult, so I wouldn't attempt a DIY unless you're an experienced phone repair person. :good:
Good luck!
Yes battery is SNAFU, ie. normal Motorola's quality control.
I have the wireless charging mod, that causes similar boot loop when placed on charger.
Great when you have pattern to proceed boot security and your alarm fails in morning.
I am about to cremate this POS phone and all its mods once my Sony cheap interim phone arrives.. will not even consider supporting the Motorola eco system by selling on eBay.
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Hello, recently my phone was having some serious battery life issues. It started with just draining fast, then it would turn off prematurely at 10%, then 20%, then 50%, then it would basically not run without a charging cable. My fix was to just plug in a power bank and keep it like that, and it was working fine for a while. Then I noticed it wouldn't charge with the stock charger. I would plug it in, worked for a few minutes, get to 100%, turn off, then go down to ~95% and die. So I was only using it with my power bank.
Today, I plugged it in as usual, and it just started doing a bootloop. Then it just turned off and refused to work! It won't power on with neither the original charger or the powerbank. Add insult to injury, there's this tiny LED notification light I had never seen before that's blinking. Now it's not blinking any more. I just plugged in the powerbank and NOW it looks like it's working. Oh no, was too optimistic, it's back at the rebooting thing. It's just the first screen for 5-15 seconds, goes black, then repeats. God I hate this phone,
So now it's next to me just powering on and off. Please help, I would appreciate it greatly!
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Your device need battery replacement..