5.0" FHD AMOLED
SD 801
3GB RAM
16GB + microSD Card
8MP/13 MP
No: Fingerprint, NFC, 4K video, USB type C
$249 USD
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Fake.
^^ i hope not, looks great to me. and a new device by the holidays was basically assured by the CEO.
These are renders, not photos. Who knows where they came from or if they are connected with reality at all. All it takes is a little skill with Photoshop.
It looks great, too bad is not real
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Looks like dual cameras and finger print sensor on uni-body/non-removable back with clean slate front.
Seems to be an obvious Nexus 5X competitor, but a lot better looking IMO. Apparently will have mid-range specs like the 5X according to early blogs.
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I read something about this on gsmarena
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They cant even get the invite system in order for the opt. So If they do come with another device i hope they get it better. I ordered my two on the 12th and I just got it monday....but some order on the 1st and still have no phone.
spotted benchmark and specs..
16GB and 32GB models priced between $200 and $300 according to one source and 'around $250' according to another. One mentions it'll come with micro SD card reader, so we'll see.
The device passed through the AnTuTu benchmark software and revealed that it comes with a Full HD display, likely to be around 5-inch. Other specs include an octa-core MediaTek MT6795T processor, clocked at 2.2GHz, 2GB of RAM, 32GB of internal storage, micro SD card support, and a 13 megapixel main camera.
http://www.mobileburn.com/24919/news/oneplus-2-mini-to-be-mid-range
http://www.ibtimes.com.au/oneplus-mini-update-specifications-revealed-antutu-1469267
droydr said:
16GB and 32GB models priced between $200 and $300 according to one source and 'around $250' according to another. One mentions it'll come with micro SD card reader, so we'll see.
The device passed through the AnTuTu benchmark software and revealed that it comes with a Full HD display, likely to be around 5-inch. Other specs include an octa-core MediaTek MT6795T processor, clocked at 2.2GHz, 2GB of RAM, 32GB of internal storage, micro SD card support, and a 13 megapixel main camera.
http://www.mobileburn.com/24919/news/oneplus-2-mini-to-be-mid-range
http://www.ibtimes.com.au/oneplus-mini-update-specifications-revealed-antutu-1469267
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If it's 200 I may get it as a backup phone......if I get a invite
903tex said:
If it's 200 I may get it as a backup phone......if I get a invite
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Maybe OP2 buyers get an instant invite?
903tex said:
If it's 200 I may get it as a backup phone......if I get a invite
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assuming there will be 16GB and 32GB versions, the 16GB could be pretty close to that in price. i'm skeptical but hopeful that this will have SD card support, but we'll see.
i hope OnePlus pays close attention to all the disappointed people about the Nexus 5X only having 2GB of RAM. if you read that forum, there's a lot of people who were set on buying the 5X until they found out about the RAM. so if OnePlus puts 3GB of RAM into this Mini phone, it'd probably sell like hotcakes.
it's stupid how some Android manufacturers are trying to clone the iPhone's 2GB RAM spec without realizing that iOS is pretty lightweight compared to Android. sure, Marshmellow is supposed to be more 'efficient', but people want to know they'll have enough RAM past next year.
droydr said:
assuming there will be 16GB and 32GB versions, the 16GB could be pretty close to that in price. i'm skeptical but hopeful that this will have SD card support, but we'll see.
i hope OnePlus pays close attention to all the disappointed people about the Nexus 5X only having 2GB of RAM. if you read that forum, there's a lot of people who were set on buying the 5X until they found out about the RAM. so if OnePlus puts 3GB of RAM into this Mini phone, it'd probably sell like hotcakes.
it's stupid how some Android manufacturers are trying to clone the iPhone's 2GB RAM spec without realizing that iOS is pretty lightweight compared to Android. sure, Marshmellow is supposed to be more 'efficient', but people want to know they'll have enough RAM past next year.
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Dude... I sold my HTC M9 for a "temporary" nexus 6 til the new nexus 5x came out and I too did not pre order due to disappointment! Nexus 6 is a great phone, but too big for my preference! Switched from M9 because development was weak.
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Dude... I sold my HTC M9 for a "temporary" nexus 6 til the new nexus 5x came out and I too did not pre order due to disappointment! Nexus 6 is a great phone, but too big for my preference! Switched from M9 because development was weak.
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I'm not sure how that will play out with the nexus 5x. I don't see why phone as that would come with 16gb and only 2gb of ram period! But I'm not sold on Android m battery improvement either. They said the same with 5.0, and I saw a big decrease in battery from KitKat. Nexus 6p looks nice but still to me the opt offers more value as I do feel like both phones are will have a strong dev community once things pick up
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I'm not sure how that will play out with the nexus 5x. I don't see why phone as that would come with 16gb and only 2gb of ram period! But I'm not sold on Android m battery improvement either. They said the same with 5.0, and I saw a big decrease in battery from KitKat. Nexus 6p looks nice but still to me the opt offers more value as I do feel like both phones are will have a strong dev community once things pick up
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Right... on the OPO I always got around 6.5-7 hours on screen time, a couple times 8! Once KK hit, I only got 4-5, sometimes 3! Now, people are saying that with that preview 3 of M battery got better, so I guess we'll see when the final version of M drops for the Nexus 6 next week, I'll be sure to flash that asap.
OnePlus Mini might be announced this Monday in India:
http://www.androidcentral.com/oneplus-announce-next-big-step-india-october-12
Here are some rumors from a source claiming to have an anonymous tip:
Per this report, the OnePlus Mini / X will pack a 5-inch, 1080 x 1920 display, apparently the same as the one used with the Xiaomi Mi 4c. Given that the Mi 4c uses the ClearForce-ready Synaptics S3708 touchscreen controller, the forthcoming OnePlus device could follow suit, although full-on ClearForce support seems a tad far-fetched for a mid-ranger.
Aside from the display, the tipster believes that there'll be dual front-facing speakers and a 13-megapixel Sony IMX258 taking care of photo and video-related duties. The shooter will apparently forgo optical image stabilization (OIS), instead favoring a combination of phase-detection autofocus (PDAF) and electronic image stabilization (EIS).
Elsewhere, the OnePlus handset will offer an FM radio, NFC, IR blaster and will have removable StyleSwap covers. Despite this, the battery will apparently be fixed, in order to preserve the integrity of the device's IP67 rating and wireless charging facilities. Before now, it has been mentioned that the new OnePlus phone will be powered by a MediaTek MT6795 SoC chip. Instead, though, the company may favor Snapdragon's 801.
Completing this expansive round-up of new info, the OnePlus Mini / X may offer 2 GB of RAM, which seems perfectly reasonable for a mid-range device.
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Source: GforGames via Phone Arena
More leaked photos, looks like iPhone. And in the 2nd picture down, it appears there's capacitive buttons on the bottom bezel:
will be officially announced Oct 29th
5.0" FHD AMOLED
SD 801
3GB RAM
16GB + microSD Card
8MP/13MP
no Fingerprint sensor
no USB type C
no NFC
no 4K video
$249 USD
Need a new forum for this phone
Related
So after trying to decide between the two for myself, I've decided to try to help other like-minded users find the phone that's best for them.
If you see anything incorrect or missing, please let me know!
I'll start with the Nexus S 4G
Software:
Ships with Gingerbread
Will receive upgrades first
Will likely run Icecream (HC reworked for phones)
AOSP
No bloatware, and no Sprint apps
Hardware:
1GHz Hummingbird Processor
512MB RAM
4" Super AMOLED screen
16gb internal storage
NO MicroSD card slot
NFC Capability
5MP rear camera
VGA Front camera
1500 mAh Li-ion battery
GPU rated as good, if not slightly better than EVO3D's Adreno 220**
Unique Contour display*
*The contour display can best be seen here. Essentially, the display curves slightly at the ends and reviews have reported it feeling nice against your face. Aside from the feel, the SAMOLED display grants more vivid colors, more luminance, and more contrast, making text easy to read at most sizes.
**Which means the Nexus S will be able to display graphics on a similar caliber of the EVO3D, which is much higher than the EVO.
Layman's terms? Have you noticed how bad the N64 Emulator is on the EVO? It should run beautifully on the Nexus S, and even better on the EVO3D.
Media
DLNA Support for wirelessly streaming media from the phone to your TV or computer
Supported video, audio, and image formats are not known yet, but we can safely assume the standards are there.
Release date: "Spring" 2011
Price: $199 on contract
Form:
An important spec of phones to some users is also their outside form. Here's what we've got on the Nexus
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63mm x 123.9mm x 10.88mm
129g
4" contour display
Feel: CNET and user reviews say it feels light, and the material feels ´lighter´without metal parts.
This will make it feel more airy, smaller, and less bulky than the current EVO, which is very similar to the EVO3D
Users have reported a 'cheapy' plastic feel to the Nexus S, similar to the Epic. Other than that, there's no decision one way or another if that could be an issue when dropping the phone.
Advice? Don't drop your phone, no matter which model. Or buy a case of some sort.
Summary:
If you end up selling your EVO for $200 (easily done), you'll be able to upgrade to this phone for free. Why would you do that? Well, it's free, and it's a hardware and, eventually, a software upgrade from the EVO. While it boasts almost the same specs as the EVO, the processor is newer and the screen displays more colors with more vibrance.
Currently, the TMO Nexus S has benchmarks that run circles around the EVO and battery life that has been reported to last ~20 hours off-charger. Sound good to you? Same to me.
The phone will definitely last you through 2011, and likely a good chunk, if not all, of 2012. I anticipate it will also be receiving Android versions 2.4 and 3.1 (If that's Ice Cream), which will be more than capable of running on this phone, even if Quad-Core phones are released and run it as well.
Aside from the hardware, the software will be top-notch. You'll receive the latest Android software updates as soon as they're released, and the dev community should be buzzing on this phone, considering its AOSP nature.
Who is this phone good for?
Economically-minded users who want a boost from their current EVO and/or want a great developing experience. If the latest and greatest Google software is your thing, this phone is for you. Keep in mind that Nexus S already runs the Honeycomb SDKs and it will be a breeze to port the AOSP Honeycomb to the Nexus S once the source is released. Further more, AOSP will finally be developing code for WiMax chips, which will help ROMs like CM in incorporating WiMax. You'll also get WiMax on CM8 (When released) first, most likely.
Additional:
Miss having an LED notification light?
Here's your solution: BLN (Back Light Notifications)
http://www.androidcentral.com/nexus-s-receives-bln-notifications-thanks-xda
Intro:
"How do you follow up one of the most popular, most successful, biggest and fastest phones of 2010? In the case of the recently announced Sprint HTC EVO 3D, you give it a higher resolution screen, 3D recording and playback capability, and you open up a whole new world of user generated content. Oh, and you make it even faster and more powerful."
-Source
EVO 3D
Software:
Ships with Gingerbread
Includes Sense 2.0 (?)
Includes Sprint Software
Hardware:
1.2 GHz Qualcomm Snapdragon dual-core processor
1GB RAM (Which can be expanded* into the External Storage, giving you up to 5GB RAM, which diminishes as you fill internal storage, down to a minimum of 1GB)
1GB Internal Storage (Previous rumors stated 4GB. This still isn't clear or confirmed at all either way.)
4.3" 3D qHD Display with a resolution of 960x540
Expandable memory: 8GB microSD card included: supports up to 32GB
Dual 5 MP cameras used to capture 3D images and videos
1.3MP front-facing camera
1730 mAh Li-ion battery
HDMI port
No kickstand... Devastating, I guess?
*Much like a page file on a PC This has also been pointed out as a rumor, and is MOST LIKELY NOT TRUE
Media:
DLNA for wirelessly streaming media from the phone to your TV or computer
Audio supported formats:
Playback: .AAC, .AMR, .OGG, .M4A, .MID, .MP3, .WAV, .WMA (Windows Media Audio 9)
Recording: .AMR
Video supported formats:
Playback:.3GP, .3G2, .MP4, .WMV (Windows Media Video 9), .AVI (MP4 ASP and MP3), .XVID (MP4 ASP and MP3)
Recording: .3GP
Form:
The EVO3D is similar in look and shape to the EVO. Here's what we've got
Size and Weight:
126mm x 65mm x 12.05mm (4.96" x 2.56" x 0.47")
170 grams (6.0 ounces) with the battery
Feel:
Taken from Engadget's hands-on review:
"As we'd mentioned in our hands-on, we immediately noticed that the EVO 3D didn't feel particularly heavy or bulky in the hand; in fact, we would've guessed that it was a bit lighter than the 4G. Well, turns out they're almost exactly the same weight -- holding the two one right after the other, we couldn't detect a difference.
As for dimensions, the 4G is actually wider -- the 3D's quite a bit more manageable when you're holding it, especially if you don't have giant paws -- and they're right around the same thickness."
Price: unknown
Release date: "Summer" 2011 (June)
Summary:
If you want the latest Sprint power-phone with latest industry hardware and technology - You won't be disappointed. While there are mixed reviews and feelings about the 3D feature of the phone, it seems that 3D is completely optional and is simply an added bonus for buying this already great phone.
Battery life is undetermined right now. While it boasts an industry-leading 1730 mAh Li-ion battery and the processor is some times number more efficient than the current EVO, people speculate it to have as much batter life as the current EVO.
In short: Like your EVOs now, this phone will be fast, bold, and furious, taken to a new extreme.
EDIT: Since the question has been asked on the forums, I've done a little bit of research:
How will the EVO 3D's display hold up against iPhone 4's?
To answer it shortly, the EVO 3D has a slightly lower resolution (960x540) than the iPhone 4 (960x640). Being that the EVO3D has a larger screen and a lower resolution, this means that the PPI (pixels per inch) will be lower, resulting in a slightly less sharp display.
Who is this phone good for?
Power-users who want only the best for themselves. Want to play the latest 3D graphics-intensive games on your phone? EVO3D is for you (please don't mistake 3D graphics for 3D images)
If you buy into the 3D thing, you'll also be able to shoot and view photos and videos in 3D.
This phone has power, screen size, and speed that make it worthwhile to keep far into the future.
[reserved for side-by-side comparison and other things!]
dirkyd3rk said:
Great thread gmap heres a video for people who want to see differences in screens bud.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1-zJ-MPR0o&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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Thanks!
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Basically, they've split premier bonuses into two categories: Silver and Gold
You qualify for Silver status if:
Your monthly base plan is between $69.99 and $89.98 for a SINGLE LINE or between $99.99 and $169.98 for SHARED PLANS.
Silver has the standard 2-year upgrades
You qualify for Gold status if:
Your monthly base plan is $89.99 or more for a single line, or $169.99 or more for shared plans.
OR
If you've been a Sprint customer for 10 or more years
GOLD PREMIER has the one-year upgrade eligibility on the primary line
If you are a student and already on Sprint or planning to switch
Check out this thread regarding a 23% online discount for students.
If you are not a Sprint customer and are thinking of switching over, here's a promotion for you
http://www.samacharexpress.com/2011/03/sprint-offers-150-50-to-wireless-defectors/
They offer $150 for you to switch from them, if you buy a smart phone. Pretty nice deal!
Deal running through 4/16, but call Sprint to check.
Thanks! I already knew all of this, but it'll help some people here for sure.
Also, the Nexus S has a contour display, which you didn't mention.
Oh right, thanks! I'll add that in for sure. Don't forget to hit the thanks button if you thought it was helpful Even if not for you.
I like how this was titled, Idiot's Guide.....for idiots.
No way lmao.
Haha, thanks man.
I'm in no way an expert, I'm a slightly above-average user when it comes to knowledge of hardware and software. I'm just compiling info that I dug around for myself and ask tons of questions on --- and I'm putting it in (hopefully) layman's terms.
Do you all think I should include a comparison of the two phones to the iPhone 4, since everyone seems to use the iPhone as a comparison tool?
So nexus s is a better phone the first gen Evo? I am within my 30 days so I can return my new evo and get the S, I don't want to wait for the 3D as I will be running a blackberry curve until release
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cordell12 said:
So nexus s is a better phone the first gen Evo? I am within my 30 days so I can return my new evo and get the S, I don't want to wait for the 3D as I will be running a blackberry curve until release
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I'd say so, yes.
The hardware is newer than the EVO (though still ~6 months+ old at this point).
The display also is much better
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Evo is only TFT and supports 16,000 colors. Nexus S is wvga super amoled and supports 16,000,000 colors LOL.
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Not to mention the Software upgrades you'll get with the Nexus. And that's just stock software. Devs will be all over optimizing the software.
Great thread gmap heres a video for people who want to see differences in screens bud.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1-zJ-MPR0o&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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Do you all think I should include a comparison of the two phones to the iPhone 4, since everyone seems to use the iPhone as a comparison tool?
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No please don't.
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No please don't.
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Noted. Thanks for the feedback.
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Great thread gmap heres a video for people who want to see differences in screens bud.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1-zJ-MPR0o&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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I quoted this and added it to the third post. Thanks bud!
gmap516 said:
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Yeah just direct them to the vid it shows all they need to know since qhd and retina are pretty much the same. LOL
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Im so sick of the iphone presumably being the "standard" of all smartphones.
I am sick of it too! Everything is compared to Iphone, iphone is lame. Maybe its good for people who dont know any better, lol.
I took a long look at nexus s, it may be a bit better than evo 1st gen but I dont care for the look of it. The plastic back, reminds me of the Epic, feels cheap in the hand
You forgot to mention that the gpu in the nexus is actually just as powerful as the adreno 220 if not a little better
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Im so sick of the iphone presumably being the "standard" of all smartphones.
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I mean in 2007 they did set the bar for smartphone (touchscreens) but that might just be someones opinion :rolls eyes: Hate it or love it these companies all make their next moves based on apple. That means apple has the market by the balls. I'm not a fan boy but I speak the truth young Jedi.
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You forgot to mention that the gpu in the nexus is actually just as powerful as the adreno 220 if not a little better
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Being that this is an idiot's guide for idiots, you'll have to explain that to me and put it in layman's terms. I know what a GPU is, but not what the Adreno 220
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I mean in 2007 they did set the bar for smartphone (touchscreens) but that might just be someones opinion :rolls eyes: Hate it or love it these companies all make their next moves based on apple. That means apple has the market by the balls. I'm not a fan boy but I speak the truth young Jedi.
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The truth indeed.
I have to switch to AT&T in about a week and I'm looking at the Atrix as my starter phone.
Best Buy Mobile has it for $50 in the store, and they have a flat 30 day return policy. If I buy the phone around the 20th That should take me through the next major releases on AT&T. Of course, for that price if the Atrix works out I'm keeping it.
Is there anything you would warn me off of on the device coming from an HTC Thunderbolt?
The ATRIX is a great phone that's about to get better with upcoming cm7 and aosp releases.
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Nothing to warn you off at all, unless better battery life and more reliable call quality bother you. If that's the case, then stick with the HTC.
But seriously you are gonna live the "upgrade" to the Atrix...
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Yes.. I agree for battery life on android (on a stock battery) the atrix can't be beat. With undervolting and custom rom... its very good...
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Be warned....ATRIX has great battery
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here's a comparison between the cliq xt and the atrix
Width
63.5 mm (2.48 inches)
58.0 mm (2.26 inches)
Height
117.8 mm (4.59 inches)
114.0 mm (4.45 inches)
Depth
11.0 mm (0.43 inches)
15.6 mm (0.61 inches)
Weight
135 grams (4.7 ounces)
163 grams (5.7 ounces)
The atrix is lighter by a whole ounce, THINNER than the cliq XT, and not even all that much taller or wider, and yet it packs a 4 inch qhd screen, a dual core beast, 1 gigs of ram, 16gb of storage, 4g, GINGERBREAD, and webtop.
Atrix is in its own league, after putting it up against the lg thrill, the inspire, and my memories of the G2X...this phone is the first true super phone I've ever used.
Sounds good. With 1-click root available for 2.3.4 it's hard to pass up...
If you can wait.. I believe ATT will release the SGSII soon :T
but if you're in a rush.. Atrix is an amazing phone.
I would say the same thing....get the SGII
I had a chance to test drive my friends SGSII. It is a great phone and it is quick but I wouldn't say that it is much if at all better than the Atrix. He complains about the battery not lasting long at all and the GPS takes some time to lock sometimes (his phone is still stock). The screen was nice but the Atrix screen is also nice, they are just different. I think the colors looked a little too saturated on the SGSII and a little too washed out on the Atrix. Neither are perfect. In terms of speed, they felt the same to me. The Atrix has a lag coming from the lockscreen and the SGSII has a lag going to the Homescreen...take your pick. The general feel was very similar, gaming was nearly identical. The SGSII was a little harder to handle due to it's size and shape (wide and thin).
In short if you can get an Atrix for $50 or an SGSII for $299...I would definitely say Atrix. For that matter if they were both $50 I would still say Atrix.
yea the GPS on the ATRIX is pretty amazing. not gonna lie. main reason why i got an android device was for free voice navigation
qHD (Atrix) vs WVGA (SGSII)?
Atrix is smaller and the color to me looks great.
Battery is great.
Atrix all the way...
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here's a comparison between the cliq xt and the atrix
The atrix is lighter by a whole ounce, THINNER than the cliq XT, and not even all that much taller or wider, and yet it packs a 4 inch qhd screen, a dual core beast, 1 gigs of ram, 16gb of storage, 4g, GINGERBREAD, and webtop.
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Atrix does NOT have 16GB of storage... it's internal storage is 10.7GB.... unless you're talking about a deal where they are throwing in a 16GB external storage.. then yeah..
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Atrix does NOT have 16GB of storage... it's internal storage is 10.7GB.... unless you're talking about a deal where they are throwing in a 16GB external storage.. then yeah..
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It has 16 gigs completely formatted with no OS on it. The inspire advertises 4 gigs of internal even though its only like 300 megs of usable storage. So yes it has 16 with 10-11 usable.
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It has 16 gigs completely formatted with no OS on it. The inspire advertises 4 gigs of internal even though its only like 300 megs of usable storage. So yes it has 16 with 10-11 usable.
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Agree.. as that's how even Moto list the specs "up to 16GB".. I should have been more clear in my response, I'm talking about usable, as no one would care if they got 16GB of storage if the phone doesn't boot cus nothing is on it.. just didn't want someone going by what was posted here and seeing only 10GB of storage when they look at the storage space on the phone..
Get it for the $50. It's a steal. You won't have any regrets at that price.
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Agree.. as that's how even Moto list the specs "up to 16GB".. I should have been more clear in my response, I'm talking about usable, as no one would care if they got 16GB of storage if the phone doesn't boot cus nothing is on it.. just didn't want someone going by what was posted here and seeing only 10GB of storage when they look at the storage space on the phone..
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well, I think it's common knowledge [at least if you post on a board like this] that free space is always lower than advertised space
but Atrix does a REALLY good job of it..2 gbs for APPS, a little more than 10 for storage, and the rest is system files/OS...
Easily the most storage I've had on a phone, dropping in my 8gb microsd from my g2x makes it feel like overkill.
then again, i have fond memories of growing up with my 300mb windows drive and getting an upgraded 1gb drive, then a few years later being SO excited when I got a celeron 266mhz tower came with a 20gb drive!!
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oh..and the christmas this little box showed up under the tree...wow. i remember spending many nights searching for interesting isos.
Last year SanDisk said (source: can't find it again) to expect 128GB microSDXC cards by the end of Q3 2013 (september), but, we're... still... waiting. I wonder what the holdup is?
As soon as they're spotted in the wild, I'll be buying one on day1 for the expected ~$100 asking price, which'll bring my total Note3 capacity up to 192GB(!). Also never had a corrupted card issue from SanDisk, unlike some others, so no qualms there.
And before anyone asks: Yes, 128GB is compatible with the Note3, even though the specs says only 64GB is supported. They always do that. the microSDXC spec actually supports up to 2TB, and there's no reason why the phone shouldn't be able address up to 2TB in hardware or software.
Anyway... keep an eye out folks. It'll look something like...... THIS:
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EDIT (5 months later): 128GB is here! Only $120 at Amazon (sold out until April 9th); or $200 MSRP at BestBuy now. Might pop up on EBay (non-scam that is) before Amazon gets it back in stock.
Yup, i was one of those Crazy Early Adopters, see link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1343164
those 64GB were going for $200 from the official SanDisk website.
Then 6 month later Best Buy had them for like $80, i almost went kaput
so this time around I'll just wait until the prices drop before ordering the 128 GB version
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Yup, i was one of those Crazy Early Adopters, see link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1343164
those 64GB were going for $200 from the official SanDisk website.
Then 6 month later Best Buy had them for like $80, i almost went kaput
so this time around I'll just wait until the prices drop before ordering the 128 GB version
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Ouch So you got yours in November of 2011 and paid the high early adopter tax.
I didn't have a SDXC capable phone until I picked up my S3 in June 2012, and only paid... $64.49 for my 64GB sandisk off of Ebay via China. Was a good deal at the time, as the price averaged higher for a few months following as demand for SDXC picked up (thanks to S3 sales).
I'm hoping the 128GB sdxc won't be so obscenely overpriced at launch.
I paid over $100 for a class 10 32GB. A year or so later they are less than half that. lol. O well, I wanted fast speeds and I got it. I just paid a hell of a lot of money at the time to get it (compared to what they cost now).
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The 128gb will be around $220USD at launch, possibly more. That was the price of 64gb cards at launch.
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The 128gb will be around $220USD at launch, possibly more. That was the price of 64gb cards at launch.
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Yeah... I don't think I want to be paying that much. I'll wait for the $1/GB threshold.
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Yeah... I don't think I want to be paying that much. I'll wait for the $1/GB threshold.
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$1 a gb is way high anymore. 64 gb can be had for under $50. If a 128 gb card was $128 I would buy one
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Definately interested
I am definitely interested. Building up a big library of stuff on my current 64GB and wondering how that is going to continue working for me... Especially since we are all stuck with 32GB of memory instead of the option for more... What about the other card providers?
Isn't $200 for 128GB a huge ripoff?
Considering you have high Performance SSDS with longer durability AND built-in controllers with cache for nearly 50 cents per gig.
And how much larger are those SSDs than a microSD card?
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Last year SanDisk said (source: can't find it again) to expect 128GB microSDXC cards by the end of Q3 2013 (september), but, we're... still... waiting. I wonder what the holdup is?
As soon as they're spotted in the wild, I'll be buying one on day1 for the expected ~$100 asking price, which'll bring my total Note3 capacity up to 192GB(!). Also never had a corrupted card issue from SanDisk, unlike some others, so no qualms there.
And before anyone asks: Yes, 128GB is compatible with the Note3, even though the specs says only 64GB is supported. They always do that. the microSDXC spec actually supports up to 2TB, and there's no reason why the phone shouldn't be able address up to 2TB in hardware or software.
Anyway... keep an eye out folks. It'll look something like...... THIS:
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I have a 64Gb micro sd from sandisk that just NEVER worked right in my S3 or S4, works great in the Note 3.
Snegtul said:
I have a 64Gb micro sd from sandisk that just NEVER worked right in my S3 or S4, works great in the Note 3.
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Weird. My 64GB Sandisk has been working just fine for the last year and half, in a S3 and Note3. It's formatted Fat32 instead of exFAT, though, due to early compatibility issues with ROMs and recoveries. Will be reformatting as either exFAT or ext4 depending on when CM10 for the Note3 is ready.
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And how much larger are those SSDs than a microSD card?
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have you even seen the inside of an SSD? Hint: Mostly empty space. The actual Memory chip is about the same size.
They just omit the extra high performance components (Like cache, controllers) on Micro SD packages.
Instead of putting in ONE big capacity chip = SLOW , they put a couple smaller chips So they can work FASTER in parallel
Same flash Memory technology , less Side components = more $?
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I have a 64Gb micro sd from sandisk that just NEVER worked right in my S3 or S4, works great in the Note 3.
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I have the exact SanDisk card you have in your picture (64GB) and started using it in my S3, now have it in my Note 3. It has always worked perfectly. These caveats may be what helped achieve this success:
1. Never reformatted the card.
2. Never rooted either phone
3. Never took the card out unless the phone had finished turning off and was unplugged.
4. Never took the card out of the reader on my PC unless I first went into windows explorer and first selected "eject" for that drive letter, and waited until the message popped up on the desktop saying it was OK to disconnect that drive.
Sent from my Galaxy Note III; Previous owner/hacker of Galaxy S3, Galaxy Nexus, Droid X, HTC HD2, HTC Touch Pro 2, HTC Tilt, HTC 8525, O2 XDA II, O2 XDA.
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have you even seen the inside of an SSD? Hint: Mostly empty space. The actual Memory chip is about the same size.
They just omit the extra high performance components (Like cache, controllers) on Micro SD packages.
Instead of putting in ONE big capacity chip = SLOW , they put a couple smaller chips So they can work FASTER in parallel
Same flash Memory technology , less Side components = more $?
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You serious? Those chips are usually 8/16/32gigs and they're bigger and thicker though not a lot. Yes, you're right they work in parallel, but they need ram, controllers and a lot more energy to work how they do and how fast. Shrinking 128gb to micro SD size is probably secondary to getting it to work reliably.
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You serious? Those chips are usually 8/16/32gigs and they're bigger and thicker though not a lot. Yes, you're right they work in parallel, but they need ram, controllers and a lot more energy to work how they do and how fast. Shrinking 128gb to micro SD size is probably secondary to getting it to work reliably.
sent from my sm-900t.
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That's what I Mean, SD Cards have less Components but higher cost.
BTW, sdcards have internal controllers just lower performance Ones.
Hard to believe the cost of minutarizaton (which usually brings costs DOWN) is higher than the cost of enhanced performance .
Should at least balance out.
Any update on the 128GB micro-sdxc?
Can't find anything yet. Did SanDisk get sent back to the drawing board?
vasra said:
Any update on the 128GB micro-sdxc?
Can't find anything yet. Did SanDisk get sent back to the drawing board?
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I have found this on Amazon... seems to cheap to be true but I was thinking of giving it a go. I can't post links as I'm a new user but just search amazon uk for samsung 128gb micro sd.
What are your thoughts?
Hopefully not this one.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Samsung-Ess...qid=1387296831&sr=8-9&keywords=128gb+micro+sd
Looks FAKE to me but I could be wrong.
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Looks FAKE to me but I could be wrong.
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That's the one! It does look fake indeed and only £50... suspicious! If anyone decided to go for it please let us know!
Hi in this Nexus 10 thread I was asked about the OnePlusOne thoughts.
So posting not a OPO review but how it affects my "relationship" with my Nexus 10.
The Nexus 10 "sucks" now relatively speaking primarily because it suffers from a relatively slow CPU and significantly from only really 1GB of memory.
So I've had to view the Nexus 10 as a "special purpose" device rather than a "general device" and use it in a deliberately complimentary way to the other device.
Until I got the OPO the other device to the Nexus 10 was really the N7 (latest), in that it has fast cpu, sufficient memory. I'd use both tablets side-by-side on a desk or pick up N7 to do something whilst using the N10.
Example problems with the N10 are too many browser tabs open it would reset, or if I'm doing anything much in the background, so I couldn't really do any work like an Office file edit at same time as browsing. So I'd be using my N10 for one-thing-at-a-time like browsing one website, or watching a video and nothing else open.
Given the N10 is the one-thing-at-a-time machine, it places a lot onto the complimentary device in terms of it needing to be a pretty good device by itself.
Hence to the OPO, with a 5.5" screen, fast CPU and lashings of memory 3GB, it is such a complementary device, I can easily have many apps running, all the background apps that each gobble some memory, like Amazon, Ebay, Facebook, XDA app, etc. Whilst the Nexus 10 pretty much only has MX Player, Dolphin (for Flash sites) not even Chrome but I installed CM11-M9 and just use its "browser".
Since the high-spec complementary-to-N10 I moved N10 from stock to CM11-M9 and the random reboots stopped and performance is about the same so only major benefit is more stable.
So in this hybrid OPO+N10 I got the big-screen experience for when I want it, plus stability and performance, across two devices.
I got this complimentary hybrid with N7+N10 also and to a lesser degree N5+N10 but the more you push onto the non-N10 device the more it needs to be bigger screen, so I'd say OPO+N10 are good complements to each other.
FYI I paid $278 for a refurbished N10 in November, and I paid $360 delivered for a new OPO a month ago. My N7 was $160 refurbished and my N5 new $385. Overall, the N7 is the most value, followed by OPO, then N5, then N10. The N10 is only used for a narrow, but long-running tasks like watching a video, I'm usually on MX Player on it.
I have given my N5 and N7 to my wife, they complement each other well in that the smaller the phone screen the more it beckons for a tablet and N7 is a good tablet.
When away from home, the N10 I find is simply not worth removing from the house, it is simply too big and not really that useful, battery life sucks, it is slow to recharge even with the Pogoplug, despite its big screen it is too temperamental. Before OPO I'd leave house with N5+N7. Now I leave just with the OPO, as its got everything in one device, memory, storage (64GB) and speed to handle all the apps concurrently, so in that regard the OPO as a "one plus one" i.e. human plus one device, is correct.
So OPO is flawed, but its cheap and powerful and whatever bugs exist, I've not noticed them, in contrast to the N10 the OPO is much more stable and bug-free.
Any negativ reviews of the OPO, if you look at polls from owners, they show up about 8% have a problem which is major, put that in proportion the relatively happy 90% owners, such as myself.
I bought 3 OPO, one for my son, then my neighbor, then myself, then I helped out the local phone shop staff who helped me on a discounted family plan and an OPO forum member who impressed me with a balanced perspective.
OPO not perfect, its a cheap-support-sucks-from-China phone.
Nexus 10 though is even worse. I can't imagine how sick I'd feel if I'd paid RRP $499+tax+shipping $550 from Google Play for it. It is not even good value at $278 refurbished relative to other devices (vs say $160 N7 refurbished). I won't sell it though as its good to have a silent "laptop" type screen in bed, not far ever from Pogo cable.
Nexus 10 was released in November 2012 - that is 18 months ago - by Moore's law it is obvious that any device on the market will seem relatively slow 18 months after release.
To be fair Nexus 10 16GB model only cost 349$ at release and was a the time the highest resolution screen you could find on a tablet(still is tied highest) - and higher display resolution than almost all laptops on the market, even 1000+$ ones. It seems like a reasonable price - of course they should have cut the price a year after release or so.
I find that the Nexus 10 is still somewhat useful as a laptop replacement - it is much lighter than a laptop you can use an external keyboard for editing code or documents(or just reading books,without external keyboard) on a screen which has sharper and nicer looking text than any laptop in this price class. The battery on my device lasts around 7 hours with constant use - which is more than the average laptop which only lasts 3 hours roughly. (More expensive devices such as ultrabooks last longer, ofc). That being said there are tasks which the Nexus 10 just isn't suited for and agree it must complemented with another device.
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Nexus 10 was released in November 2012 - that is 18 months ago - by Moore's law it is obvious that any device on the market will seem relatively slow 18 months after release.
To be fair Nexus 10 16GB model only cost 349$ at release and was a the time the highest resolution screen you could find on a tablet(still is tied highest) - and higher display resolution than almost all laptops on the market, even 1000+$ ones. It seems like a reasonable price - of course they should have cut the price a year after release or so.
I find that the Nexus 10 is still somewhat useful as a laptop replacement - it is much lighter than a laptop you can use an external keyboard for editing code or documents(or just reading books,without external keyboard) on a screen which has sharper and nicer looking text than any laptop in this price class. The battery on my device lasts around 7 hours with constant use - which is more than the average laptop which only lasts 3 hours roughly. (More expensive devices such as ultrabooks last longer, ofc). That being said there are tasks which the Nexus 10 just isn't suited for and agree it must complemented with another device.
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I tried one trip Nexus 10+ other but N10 just not reliable enough. N7 is more reliable. I think its really down to the 1GB memory, its just too little. They should have actually had 2GB not claiming 2GB of which 1GB goes to video.
So that's my problem with N10 as laptop, the reliability problem.
Plus of course if you spent $500 on Wintel, you get globs of specifications like hdd capacities, it somewhat defeats the point of a tablet when it costs the same as a laptop but inferior. My Netbook was getting 7-8 hours, comparable to N10.
I have to disagree with this review too. Purely on the basis that I don't use my phone at home, not even for phonecalls or texts because it all works off the N10. It's still a very useful and usable device that has kept up in pace with the latest devices coming up. Yes it shows it's slowness a bit when I compare it to a galaxy tab pro but that's the difference two years makes. By no means does it "suck", or even relatively "suck". If you really want to see what actually sucks, try using the original galaxy tab and then see. The N10 plays the content, games, music I want to my smart TV and on the device itself without straining itself.
I don't see the N10 as a laptop replacement either because I use my laptop for playing games, photo editing, CAD modelling because the N10 won't do it to the level of detail I want it to.
ace9988 said:
I have to disagree with this review too. Purely on the basis that I don't use my phone at home, not even for phonecalls or texts because it all works off the N10. It's still a very useful and usable device that has kept up in pace with the latest devices coming up. Yes it shows it's slowness a bit when I compare it to a galaxy tab pro but that's the difference two years makes. By no means does it "suck", or even relatively "suck". If you really want to see what actually sucks, try using the original galaxy tab and then see. The N10 plays the content, games, music I want to my smart TV and on the device itself without straining itself.
I don't see the N10 as a laptop replacement either because I use my laptop for playing games, photo editing, CAD modelling because the N10 won't do it to the level of detail I want it to.
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Crashing and rebooting counts as "sucks", and is a factual non-debatable point.
Performance, is debatable and is context specific. I guess you don't have the random reboot issues, which in my case CM11-M9 fixed, but I've still got the performance issue.
The 1GB is I think the problem, not so much the 1GB as memory has to be flushed for apps active to release up prior to loading new, whilst 2GB memory would have less, i.e. the phone is "swapping" (yes I know its not actually paging but you know what I mean).
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Crashing and rebooting counts as "sucks", and is a factual non-debatable point.
Performance, is debatable and is context specific. I guess you don't have the random reboot issues, which in my case CM11-M9 fixed, but I've still got the performance issue.
The 1GB is I think the problem, not so much the 1GB as memory has to be flushed for apps active to release up prior to loading new, whilst 2GB memory would have less, i.e. the phone is "swapping" (yes I know its not actually paging but you know what I mean).
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I think that's ROM specific. I'm using slimkat and I have zero issues, tried liquid smooth before that and still no issues at all.
Also why do you keep quoting 1GB as a problem when the N10 has 2GB memory?
Have you looked at the memory?
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I think that's ROM specific. I'm using slimkat and I have zero issues, tried liquid smooth before that and still no issues at all.
Also why do you keep quoting 1GB as a problem when the N10 has 2GB memory?
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Look in settings you will see it is a 1GB memory. This from mine. Also for comparison from my OPO.
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I think that's ROM specific. I'm using slimkat and I have zero issues, tried liquid smooth before that and still no issues at all.
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There is something in stock Android which makes my N10 unreliable.
I have only tried CM11 not tried any other. I also just installed only the apps I uniquely need for my N10. It is for sure more reliable but I don't know exactly the cause or what is different to fix. Could be luck.
Why I picked CM is the OPO came with it and so why not CM for the N10 was the only depth of thinking.
My N7 N4 N5 all rock solid stable no matter what on stock Android.
I might have a dud N10 its camera doesn't work.
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OPO is one of the most over rated phones. To come here to a N10 thread and bash it because it's slow compared to a phone is really a waste of everyone's time.
The N10 is far from slow. I use it every day and have had zero issues with it. And it was purchased on launch day.
The OPO is the black plaque of devices. It's been riddled with a marketing nightmare, bug issues, and now hardware promises that is another failed launch. Their marketing campaign was one of the worst things I've ever seen coming from a flagship device.
It's just my opinion, but then again writing this was about as useful as reading the thread.
One last thing. Read the specs on the n10 posted here http://www.google.com/nexus/10/specs/
You will find it has 2gb ram. And with these issues you have on the n10, let me guess, you are using a custom rom? I run stock rooted and have zero issues. Still is faster than most devices. The N10 set the bar on how to build a lasting device. Yeah, I drank their cool aide. Only because it is the best Damn 10" tablet to be marketed.
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nigelhealy: Your device shows 1.1GB ram in settings because 900MB ram is hard-dedicated to the GPU on the N10. Snapdragon phones don't have to hard-dedicate ram to the GPU in this manner, but it's of course important to note that the GPU does obviously take up whatever ram it needs regardless.
So the only practical effect of hard-dedicating the ram in this manner is that a few hundred meg can sometimes be sat idle on the GPU side if the you app you're using isn't particularly GPU heavy.
Otherwise, I must agree with the others. My N10 is still a great tablet, nearly 2 years after initial release.
I have both the OnePlus one and the Nexus 10. While the one is faster the Nexus 10 keeps up very well and has the advantage of screen size. I like both of them for different tasks. Both are stock and rooted.
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OPO is one of the most over rated phones. To come here to a N10 thread and bash it because it's slow compared to a phone is really a waste of everyone's time.
The N10 is far from slow. I use it every day and have had zero issues with it. And it was purchased on launch day.
The OPO is the black plaque of devices. It's been riddled with a marketing nightmare, bug issues, and now hardware promises that is another failed launch. Their marketing campaign was one of the worst things I've ever seen coming from a flagship device.
It's just my opinion, but then again writing this was about as useful as reading the thread.
One last thing. Read the specs on the n10 posted here http://www.google.com/nexus/10/specs/
You will find it has 2gb ram. And with these issues you have on the n10, let me guess, you are using a custom rom? I run stock rooted and have zero issues. Still is faster than most devices. The N10 set the bar on how to build a lasting device. Yeah, I drank their cool aide. Only because it is the best Damn 10" tablet to be marketed.
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The N10 has 1GB memory. Scroll up and see the screenshot.
The OPO has simply more of everything greater apart from physical screen size .
http://our.antutu.net/api/?action=v5&act=benchmark&id=3147201
http://our.antutu.net/api/?action=v5&act=benchmark&id=3146867
So the N10 current niche is for screen size non performance purposes.
I've tried stock all the versions, CM11 and currently on Thunderkat with f2fs /cache /data
FYI the price drops we saw a year ago of $278 - $330 for 32gb N10 are now showing for GPad 8.3 $199 with 64Gb SD card $30 gives a performance boost if wanting a bigger fast tablet.
Ok. The N10 has 2gb ram. Plain and simple. But let's do this. Let's compare my note 2 to the Sony Erickson shall we? The point is you are comparing a new phone to an almost 2 year old tablet. They are meant to do very different things.
You should compare apples to oranges. Like I said, the one+one is one of the most over rated devices where as the N10 still set the standards for a tablet. And yet to have been beat.
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Ok. The N10 has 2gb ram. Plain and simple.
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1GB available to OS a 1GB is given to graphics.
By all means stop typing and begin looking, pick any method. Here's one in terminal with free command.
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[email protected]:/mnt/shell/emulated/0 # free
total used free shared buffers
Mem: 1121716 973484 148232 0 224
-/+ buffers: 973260 148456
Swap: 0 0 0
[email protected]:/mnt/shell/emulated/0 #
So that's 1121716 bytes ~ 1GB.
Scroll back a page and I show an Android screen shot comparing with a OPO's 3GB like-for-like measurement, below is the same free command method.
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[email protected]:/storage/emulated/legacy # free
total used free shared buffers
Mem: 2954792 2603164 351628 0 74608
-/+ buffers: 2528556 426236
Swap: 0 0 0
So is that "plain and simple" enough for you, i.e. showing you than you simply pasting from a wiki which lists the physical memory of which half is gone to graphics.....
You have read that the gpu uses shared ram right?
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Leoisright said:
Like I said, the one+one is one of the most over rated devices where as the N10 still set the standards for a tablet. And yet to have been beat.
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The OnePlusOne is indeed hyped, but for its price it is excellent specifications.
Fact.
Leoisright said:
You have read that the gpu uses shared ram right?
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Yes, and so 1GB is available for apps.
Scroll up and see like-for-like memory comparisons.
Better yet. Since you like comparing devices that are completely different. Let's compare my msi gaming laptop to the one plus one. Lol
Why do you care so much about comparing a new device to an older tablet? Enough where you felt the need to start a thread pretty much bashing the N10 in a N10 forum? Kind of silly. So much so there really is no need in responding to me because I am done with this thread.
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Better yet. Since you like comparing devices that are completely different. Let's compare my msi gaming laptop to the one plus one. Lol
Why do you care so much about comparing a new device to an older tablet? Enough where you felt the need to start a thread pretty much bashing the N10 in a N10 forum? Kind of silly. So much so there really is no need in responding to me because I am done with this thread.
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OK so you unsubscribed then after getting the last word in then.
I've been hoping for two years already that my Note 10+ will, some day, serve as “trade-in” phone for a worthy, future upgrade. Since then I saw two unimpressive 'flagships' S20s and N20s came and went and now I'm looking with disappointment at the next rendition, the S21 models. Both, the S21 and S21+ are basically a stripped down S20 and S20+ phones with lower screen resolution, less RAM and no external SD. I feel like my Note 10+ built two years ago, is way more advanced phone than those brand new S20 and S21+. It's Samsung's conscious intention to steer everyone toward buying the top S21Ultra.
Well, I'm thinking about it, got excited once about that camera zoom on S20 Ultra, haven't bought it when I realized that the zoom quality was overhyped, now they say it's “greatly improved”. I'll be watching the release show, will see.
I have the 10+ and after little more then a year see nothing in the Samsung line up I like.
Part of that is Q's fault, another failed OS release and no faith 11 will be much better.
My 10+ runs fast, is rock solid stable, looks great and packs close to 1 tb of storage.
I refuse to buy a phone with no SD card slot as it serves as my data drive.
So I'm just sitting on a fence...
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I have the 10+ and after little more then a year see nothing in the Samsung line up I like.
Part of that is Q's fault, another failed OS release and no faith 11 will be much better.
My 10+ runs fast, is rock solid stable, looks great and packs close to 1 tb of storage.
I refuse to buy a phone with no SD card slot as it serves as my data drive.
So I'm just sitting on a fence...
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It's sad to see Samsung lowering their standards that much. People who are planning to buy S21 and S21+ will be comparing the specs to S20 and S20+ and right now they can buy S20 or 20+ for $600 less, still having 50% more of RAM(12GB v 8), SD card extension and better screen resolution. Unbelievable. People who never had a Samsung phone and for some reason are disappointed with their iPhones, Pixels or OnePlus devices will buy it just for a change and they are accustomed to missing SD card slot. But that's a small market share, Samsung is moving backwards.
My daily phone is now Pixel 4a5G, great phone, reliable, I really like it and I paid for it $420 after some Amazon discounts so it's about a ½ price for pretty much the same experience that the S21 would provide.
I was very excited for the new 2021 "flagship" and after seeing all the leaks I don't even know how to feel. I mean, what is going to be Samsung's excuse to bring a stripped down model this year?
Very disappointed.
Well, I bought the ultra as the only option to be slightly excited about. Watched the presentations, pretty much samo-samo as the previous ones, but I decided to recycle my N10+ and one of my cc has almost $300 in points so the whole purchase won't be that painful. Funny thing I've noticed, is that they totally omitted the fingerprint, that means the S21 series will have the same sensor as S10-N20 again, otherwise they would make out of it one of the main points in this presentation.
So, there is 'one carrot' - seemingly lower price for those S21 models and than a lot of 'sticks' like, no SD slot or chargers.
Still, am looking forward to put my hands on that new camera phone.
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01/16 edit: order changed to 512GB phone for the sake of 16GB RAM, forgot about the RAM differences and am gonna double the storage for only ~$130 more.
mzsquared said:
It's sad to see Samsung lowering their standards that much. People who are planning to buy S21 and S21+ will be comparing the specs to S20 and S20+ and right now they can buy S20 or 20+ for $600 less, still having 50% more of RAM(12GB v 8), SD card extension and better screen resolution. Unbelievable. People who never had a Samsung phone and for some reason are disappointed with their iPhones, Pixels or OnePlus devices will buy it just for a change and they are accustomed to missing SD card slot. But that's a small market share, Samsung is moving backwards.
My daily phone is now Pixel 4a5G, great phone, reliable, I really like it and I paid for it $420 after some Amazon discounts so it's about a ½ price for pretty much the same experience that the S21 would provide.
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Don't forget, Pixel 4a 5G comes with e-sim too, which is missing from all Samsung S & Note series.
mzsquared said:
Well, I bought the ultra as the only option to be slightly excited about. Watched the presentations, pretty much samo-samo as the previous ones, but I decided to recycle my N10+ and one of my cc has almost $300 in points so the whole purchase won't be that painful. Funny thing I've noticed, is that they totally omitted the fingerprint, that means the S21 series will have the same sensor as S10-N20 again, otherwise they would make out of it one of the main points in this presentation.
So, there is 'one carrot' - seemingly lower price for those S21 models and than a lot of 'sticks' like, no SD slot or chargers.
Still, am looking forward to put my hands on that new camera phone.
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I'm sticking with the 10+ that's still running on Pie. No SD card means no sale... I demand to have a data drive.
Samsung still hasn't upgraded their bt chipset hardware to include AptX-HD... I call foul, again. Lame.
I'm stuck on the 10+ Pie for the foreseeable future unless Samsung and Android get their sorry acts together. Q and up scoped storage and lack of overlay support just plain sucks.
No way Sammy can bribe me to trade in my 10+ that's in near perfect condition and is running fast, stable, with close to 1 tb of storage on it.
You'll love the Buds+, the best bt Buds set for this phone. With Poweramp's EQ you can dial them in pretty good.
There are -still- issues with the Bud's firmware. Occasionally I need to reset them as nothing else seems to cure them when their sound goes wanky. Reboot, clearing caches and cursing does nothing. It may happen when they switch codecs... not sure what the trigger is. Could be a 3rd party apk or game that goofs them up?
Be nice if Samsung would get it spot on... for once so we didn't have to do their job and try to play in their muck!
I got the Ultra too. While I was dissapointed that they ended up removing the SD card, it really is not that unusual these days for phones to have onboard storage only - no SD Card. The options to have from 128 to 512 GB adds quite a bit of additional storage and for me, will be more than enough. I will miss the SD card a little - but I will get used to it. (my wife uses my Pixel 5 and sometimes we switch and I use it. Not really a big deal to go without that SD card....)
I wonder if mzsquared Is right about the Fingerprint sensor? I know they didn't talk about it at all, but I hope that Samsung will surprise us when we get the phones.....
I was looking to upgrade which I have done after every new release since the S6. As prerelease rumors were confirmed I am no longer looking at the S21 as an upgrade. What made Galaxy devices unique was not following iPhone's "Advances". Now Samsung has eliminated the 3.5 Jack, MicroSD, 1440 Screen Resolution, Eaphones or Buds, Immersive Display, Back Panel Glass and the Charger.
For me the biggest setback is no MicroSD. Sorry, I have no faith in Cloud Security and my current MicroSD already has more data than the S21's highest capacity device. As a musician and serious audiophile no bluetooth connection will preform as accurately or sound as definitive as a wired connection, it's just not happening! Not to mention the hassle of changing wireless buds. I couldn't care less about S Pen functionality, even if it was included with the device. Some of these are personal preferences but based on initial responses it's obvious there's widespread disappointment in Samsung's new direction.
The only features worth having are a more efficient SoC, some photo or video processing and the 120Hz refresh rate. I'm not opposed to spending top dollar for a worthy smartphone but the S21 has eliminated many features which are truly valuable. For now I'll stick with my S10 Plus, IMHO it's still the best Galaxy device currently available. The S20's worldwide sales dropped 35% when compared to the S10, this latest offering has no hope for reversing this decline.
Fingerprint Sensor has been improved!
I know we have to take information we get from Samsung Support with a grain of salt, I am hoping they were right when I asked about whether Samsung had improved the Fingerprint Sensor on the new S21 Ultra.
Customer Support told me:
"The in-screen fingerprint sensor in Samsung's Galaxy S21 is easier to use than ever. it has the second generation of its 3D Sonic Sensor that's faster and bigger, making it easier for people to to unlock their devices using their fingerprints."
Hopefully, he was right - we will find out in a couple of weeks...
mindseye0803 said:
Don't forget, Pixel 4a 5G comes with e-sim too, which is missing from all Samsung S & Note series.
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Not so, Galaxy S20 Exynos devices have e-sim enabled.
Geekser said:
I got the Ultra too. While I was dissapointed that they ended up removing the SD card, it really is not that unusual these days for phones to have onboard storage only - no SD Card. The options to have from 128 to 512 GB adds quite a bit of additional storage and for me, will be more than enough. I will miss the SD card a little - but I will get used to it. (my wife uses my Pixel 5 and sometimes we switch and I use it. Not really a big deal to go without that SD card....)
I wonder if mzsquared Is right about the Fingerprint sensor? I know they didn't talk about it at all, but I hope that Samsung will surprise us when we get the phones.....
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The problem with the SD card is people don't utilize it to it's full potential by making it the dedicated data drive. I did this too for years until I realized I could use exactly like I used data drives for years on my PC rigs.
Downloads stay on internal memory until they can be vetted malware free. A small security buffer but one that has already saved my data on the 10+ from a tainted jpeg with embedded script as well as a trojan preloader.
Up to 1 tb is supported... I could use 3 tb but it's irrelevant for now as even 1 tb cards are prohibitively expensive. A .5 tb V30 Lexar can be had for reasonable $75.
What I like to see is dual SD card support; you can never have too much fast storage.
Over a decade ago my PC with packing 2 tb of data drive storage. Even my E6400 laptop now has a 2 tb data drive with a 7200 rpm 1 tb OS drive. Hell yeah.
I'm wondering if the mobo chipset Samsung chose even supports an sd card?
Either way Samsung wants to skimp and still charge big bucks... No!
blackhawk said:
The problem with the SD card is people don't utilize it to it's full potential by making it the dedicated data drive. I did this too for years until I realized I could use exactly like I used data drives for years on my PC rigs.
Downloads stay on internal memory until they can be vetted malware free. A small security buffer but one that has already saved my data on the 10+ from a tainted jpeg with embedded script as well as a trojan preloader.
Up to 1 tb is supported... I could use 3 tb but it's irrelevant for now as even 1 tb cards are prohibitively expensive. A .5 tb V30 Lexar can be had for reasonable $75.
What I like to see is dual SD card support; you can never have too much fast storage.
Over a decade ago my PC with packing 2 tb of data drive storage. Even my E6400 laptop now has a 2 tb data drive with a 7200 rpm 1 tb OS drive. Hell yeah.
I'm wondering if the mobo chipset Samsung chose even supports an sd card?
Either way Samsung wants to skimp and still charge big bucks... No!
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Yup I usually without fail switch back n forth from the s line to the note line to have the latest and greatest but the fact that stupid samsung decided to kill micro SD support on all 3 models is absolutely ridiculous so I will be skipping the S21 Ultra and hoping Samsung can pull there head out of their asses and at least keep micro SD support for the next Note model cause without it I have no use for it,I have a 512 gb. Internal storage Note 20 ultra with 1tb.micro SD card so Samsung either step your game up or prepare to be disappointed.
on samsung dot com, it said Esim supported.
it listed Ultrasonic Fingerprint: 7.5x8.25mm
i dont know the size of previous galaxy.
I've ordered the 256GB S10 Ultra as an upgrade from the S10 5G, which also has 256GB internal storage with no memory card slot.
I've ran all my old Samsung phones at 1080p rgardless of maximum resolution, and I gave up using SD cards several years ago. From my perspective, the eSIM support, camera upgrades, larger battery newer hardware and software makes it a worthy upgrade. I returned the Exynos Note 20 Ultra because the battery live was unbearably poor, so I'm hoping for an improvement in that area.
I ordered the Ultra as a replacement for my Note 10+ too.
blackhawk said:
You'll love the Buds+, the best bt Buds set for this phone. With Poweramp's EQ you can dial them in pretty good.
There are -still- issues with the Bud's firmware. Occasionally I need to reset them as nothing else seems to cure them when their sound goes wanky. Reboot, clearing caches and cursing does nothing. It may happen when they switch codecs... not sure what the trigger is. Could be a 3rd party apk or game that goofs them up?
Be nice if Samsung would get it spot on... for once so we didn't have to do their job and try to play in their muck!
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They used 15 minutes this morning to talk about these buds, it's a nice piece of technology, the internals are very impressive.
Geekser said:
I wonder if mzsquared Is right about the Fingerprint sensor? I know they didn't talk about it at all, but I hope that Samsung will surprise us when we get the phones.....
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That was a wrong guess on my part fortunately. In the presentation, they spent so much time talking about a 'heroic efforts" to get that specific 'phantom black' on the back of the Ultra phone that I thought they must have exhausted all available R&D brain power working on it and the fp sensor was postponed again to next year. They never mentioned it.
mzsquared said:
They used 15 minutes this morning to talk about these buds, it's a nice piece of technology, the internals are very impressive.
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The Buds link up seamlessly with a Samsung if bt is active. That and range are not issues.
They never fall out... for calls I don't even put them all the way in and they still stay in place.
They're pretty light too.
now i really thinking of cancelling my S21 Ultra order.
no Samsung Pay MST, i'm nervous to use mobile pay, when you tap phone to credit card reader and it doesnt work, it' embarrassing !