Hi there,
i have just purchased a 3m long micro usb cable and unfortunately it seems not to work. When I connect my phone to any charger with this cable, it doesn't give any signals, nor the battery is not being charged after while. The same with different phones.
Only sign of living is that when I connect my phone with this cable to my pc (mac) - it shows me a message that the usb device is consuming a lot of power and therefore the usb port gets disabled.
Is this a typical for 3m long cables or it's just a bad quality one? Or the cables simply can't be that long to work as good as a short cable?
Or maybe better solution is to use an USB extension cable?
I just wanted to have much longer cable than typical 1,5m.
Thanks in advance for any hints.
I think you just bought some bad chinese cables dude
kicikk said:
Hi there,
i have just purchased a 3m long micro usb cable and unfortunately it seems not to work. When I connect my phone to any charger with this cable, it doesn't give any signals, nor the battery is not being charged after while. The same with different phones.
Only sign of living is that when I connect my phone with this cable to my pc (mac) - it shows me a message that the usb device is consuming a lot of power and therefore the usb port gets disabled.
Is this a typical for 3m long cables or it's just a bad quality one? Or the cables simply can't be that long to work as good as a short cable?
Or maybe better solution is to use an USB extension cable?
I just wanted to have much longer cable than typical 1,5m.
Thanks in advance for any hints.
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yeah, you brought the chinese cable same as me some months ago, and the cable is so thin they could break easy...is cheap and dont last, mine only work 3 times! and now i dont buy more of this! is better to use a extension, a good one with "fat" cable if you use the 1.8 amp charger, because more amps need to heat more so the cable have to resist.
Same problem with me
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Have u got any solution
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I don't think you can do anything to "fix" the cable, better off just buying a quality new one and trashing the old one
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hey!
i got myself a used TG01 but it didnt came with a usb host cable, so i decided to use a gender changer and the data cable to connect the peripherals to my phone, but it did not work...it does not recognize anything, am i doing something wrong ? or cant it be connected with anything else then the usb host cable provided?
thanks!!
mordockcs said:
hey!
i got myself a used TG01 but it didnt came with a usb host cable, so i decided to use a gender changer and the data cable to connect the peripherals to my phone, but it did not work...it does not recognize anything, am i doing something wrong ? or cant it be connected with anything else then the usb host cable provided?
thanks!!
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it's a generic micro USB cable, you can find it at NOkia or HTC store
thanks for the reply, i already made some research and found out that the host cable is in fact a special cable that has 2 wires grounded on the micro usb side.
i actually was able to make one, but it must have broke a soldering point and if i connect it, it drains my battery in 10 minutes...
after the failure i just brought one out of ebay.
regards!
BTW: i encountered and other problem...
i had 2 micro USB cables, and i destroyed 1 to make the host cable, they looked the same so i picked one at random, now the phone wont change with this cable with the ac adapter connected i have to connect it to the PC to that it can receive power.
I tested with an other cable and it worked...has anyone experienced this?
I made one using an old USB extension cable. It took about 10 mins. Short the green and white wires on the female side of the USB cable. Now will use any normal in-car charger.
mordockcs said:
thanks for the reply, i already made some research and found out that the host cable is in fact a special cable that has 2 wires grounded on the micro usb side.
i actually was able to make one, but it must have broke a soldering point and if i connect it, it drains my battery in 10 minutes...
after the failure i just brought one out of ebay.
regards!
BTW: i encountered and other problem...
i had 2 micro USB cables, and i destroyed 1 to make the host cable, they looked the same so i picked one at random, now the phone wont change with this cable with the ac adapter connected i have to connect it to the PC to that it can receive power.
I tested with an other cable and it worked...has anyone experienced this?
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you have to have a short on the 2 data wires for it to charge.
Anyone have any idea where to get the SE OEM USB cable?
Ebay?
10char
Do you have the model number?
I'll check when I get back home.
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I'm curious as well. I thought that something was wrong with my phones USB port as I have to wiggle it around before it connects (very loose connection). tried plugging my phone in with other cables (blackberry and arc) and it stayed connected fine. Friend of mine plugged her phone in using my cable and it did the same thing as it does with mine. It's reassuring to know it's not the phone as that would be expensive to fix, the cable on the other hand is cheaper If you find one let me know.
Sorry, I seem to have lost the little tag on the USB cable that shows the model number.
Hi,
I have "datacable by OTB" which also charges my nokia for a few bugs from EBay. Every cable with mini- (micro-?) usb should do.
Ralf
Asked my friend, Model Number is EC600L
Ye any micro USB cable will work.
Some people prefer OEM
It's a feature! micro USB was intentionally designed so that the cable will wear out rather than the jack.
On another thread it was suggested that biting on the end of the cable tightens the cable allowing it to connect. I seem to have revitalized my old original cable though I substituted a pair of needle nose pliers for my teeth.
Pawnty said:
It's reassuring to know it's not the phone as that would be expensive to fix, the cable on the other hand is cheaper If you find one let me know.
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If you really want a model number I recently bought an OEM cable for a spare for work etc its labelled CA-101
As above though its a standard micro usb cable ...
(used this cable recently to flash and then reflash my x10i after killing my phone with various patching and the cable works great lol!)
Note I also use a Nokia mains charger for my spare work charger as that's all the guy had on his stall and it works just fine
I have the Nokia CA-101. ill check the OEM one when I get home. but I like the Nokia OEM one. it's longer :3
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I am using an BB micro-USB cable as my alternative cable which cost me MYR10 around 3USD. Bought from a local Computer shop. Mobile phone shop sell at higher price.
Notice that the stock cable charge my phone bat. will reach @ 40'c while the BB micro-USB cable will above 40'c. Maybe due to the stock cable having 'resistor' locate near the both end of the cable meanwhile the BB micro-USB cable don't have.
I have 4 different micro usb to usb cables and though they all charge the phone, only the cable that came with the phone will establish a data connection with my laptops/desktops and with kies (not air) on these computers.
i have searched and read but not found any information on this. if the cable is not proprietary to the phone, any idea why this would be happening?
btw, I have also tried usb to micro usb gender changers on many existing usb cables and the same problem exists...only the cable that came in the box will establish usable data transfer connections.
sorry if this has been asked and answered before, i cannot find it. if so, a referral link will be greatly appreciated.
thanks all
Marty (ddd22)
Really? I have 3 from my old HTC phones, and 2 from my Amazon Kindle and all 5 work just fine to charge (from wall or computer), and establish data connection (from computer).
I will say on my iMac I had issues because the type of internal powered USB Apple went with on the 2009-2011 iMacs, some models have data communications issues and the only way around it is to use a different computer with a non powered usb hub internally. Seems any other macs they offer besides this particular model work fine as I have no issues w\ my MacBook Air 2011 or my Mac Mini 2011
yep... really. and that is on three different laptops and two different desktops.... all running windows 7 ultimate or professional (and one windows 8 developer preview). also i have bypassed powered hubs to test... still only the significantly heavier samsung cable the only one to work. btw, thanks for your uber quick reply
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yep... really. and that is on three different laptops and two different desktops.... all running windows 7 ultimate or professional (and one windows 8 developer preview). also i have bypassed powered hubs to test... still only the significantly heavier samsung cable the only one to work. btw, thanks for your uber quick reply
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I'm wondering if your phone might have a bent pin or jenky config setting in the software somehow, that's just so strange.
If you plug in the non-sammy cable into the wall charger, does it charge?
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yep... really. and that is on three different laptops and two different desktops.... all running windows 7 ultimate or professional (and one windows 8 developer preview). also i have bypassed powered hubs to test... still only the significantly heavier samsung cable the only one to work. btw, thanks for your uber quick reply
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And it probably goes without saying, but are you going into wireless, usb, data connection and enabling it before plugging in? You're on stock rooted I assume? Have you tried any other ROM to see if maybe it's something in your existing ROM that is messed up?
I'd be annoyed too, cause I travel weekly and leave 1 cable home, carry one in my laptop bag, and one in the bag that goes in the overhead bin in my roller-board. If I had to buy 3 samsung branded cables I'd be pissoff'ed hehe
yes the sammy cable charges from the wall.
the sammy cable makes a connection whether or not i enable usb before i plug it in or not.
when i preactivate the usb connect with the sammy cable i get the android usb connected screen. when I do it with any other cable i get a message that says: "attention, usb is connected, remove the cable" uber confused
any i am stock. havent yet rooted.
I've had this problem with my captivate. My friend gave me a micro USB that didn't make a data connection but charged my phone. and what I learned was the cable came from a third party vendor and just doesn't establish data because of the type of cable. If it comes for a phone (used HTC cable to flash my cappy) or some type of other device that needs data it will work. third party cables just charge from what I learned.
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I use the cable from my old Nokia and it charges as well as transfers files to my SGS 2.
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After 3 hrs on the phone with att customer ser, tech support, and the warranty dept (2x) the best anyone came up with was, as u said, notall micro usb ard the same. I found an adapter that may hhave come with phone (female full usb to micro) that worked with a regularlarge usb double ended cable, that also worked, this is most likely a cable problem. What I need to find is a reliable source of data friemdly usb to micro cables. thanks for your reply
I made a USB dongle that plugs into the USB port on the touchpad and provides a powered female USB-A port. It is basically a portable USB charger/battery with an OTG cable soldered to the USB port. Attached is a quick pdf showing the process. It's much smaller and more portable than using a y-cable and powered hub or battery pack.
The charger is $13 on Amazon with free prime shipping and OTG cables around $2 on ebay.
It's nice because it's small and I can secure it to the my case with a rubber band, providing a quick connection to a keyboard/mouse or usb flash drive. The particular charger charges via any powered USB port with a provided cable.
This is the battery pack I ordered, note the picture on the amazon page is not 100% accurate:
http://www.amazon.com/T-Mobile-Port..._1_1?s=wireless&ie=UTF8&qid=1325984238&sr=1-1
This is the cable I purchased, there are cheaper ones, but they ship from China:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Micro-USB-O...ccessories&hash=item1e69fbb3c5#ht_1336wt_1398
Would that be powerful enough to power external portable hard drive like WD Passport?
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Would that be powerful enough to power external portable hard drive like WD Passport?
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Unfortunately, I don't have the power specs on the battery pack. If I come across a USB-powered hard drive, I'll test it.
scarletwahoo said:
I made a USB dongle that plugs into the USB port on the touchpad and provides a powered female USB-A port. It is basically a portable USB charger/battery with an OTG cable soldered to the USB port. Attached is a quick pdf showing the process. It's much smaller and more portable than using a y-cable and powered hub or battery pack.
The charger is $13 on Amazon with free prime shipping and OTG cables around $2 on ebay.
It's nice because it's small and I can secure it to the my case with a rubber band, providing a quick connection to a keyboard/mouse or usb flash drive. The particular charger charges via any powered USB port with a provided cable.
This is the battery pack I ordered, note the picture on the amazon page is not 100% accurate:
http://www.amazon.com/T-Mobile-Port..._1_1?s=wireless&ie=UTF8&qid=1325984238&sr=1-1
This is the cable I purchased, there are cheaper ones, but they ship from China:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Micro-USB-O...ccessories&hash=item1e69fbb3c5#ht_1336wt_1398
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that looks nice.. but you re saying that its plug and play?..
you dont have to mount/unmount?
why didnt you get one w/ more usb ports?
your pics are clear.
i wonder how easy it is to do the battery hub like yours but w/ 4 usb ports
Nicely done, very good solution and tutorial. again excellent!!!!
amkaos said:
that looks nice.. but you re saying that its plug and play?..
you dont have to mount/unmount?
why didnt you get one w/ more usb ports?
your pics are clear.
i wonder how easy it is to do the battery hub like yours but w/ 4 usb ports
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http://www.amazon.com/Solar-Powered-Battery-Charger-Adapter/dp/B006DVMW92
This hub has 4 ports, a battery plus solar charging. That said, if I buy it I'll probably just plug it directly into the OTG cable rather than solder them together. Then again my soldering can be a little rough.
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So can we only use the Micro Usb OTG host to connect to a USB drive/keyboard?
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So can we only use the Micro Usb OTG host to connect to a USB drive/keyboard?
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yes plus 10char
Deserves sticky, love mods like this even if not always practical.
Cant believe they didnt give the touchpad a powered usb host. I guess they figured people would have issues with not enough power or drain the battery too quick with it.
So I think when I have some spare time I may mod your mod and show how to make a powered usb host that plugs into the wall charger so when your "docking" somewhere to charge you can hook up a keyboard and use it without restriction and even be charging the touchpad at the same time.
Probably don't even need to be too creative a proper Y cable may do the trick out the gate. Just to track one down.
Probably a stupid question, but it wouldn't be my first one...
Could you simply use a USB male-to-male cable to go between the battery pack and the OTG cable? Eliminate the soldering that way?
Or am I missing something?
I found a cable that I think will work perfectly for my idea of doing this from the charger instead of from battery: http://www.dealextreme.com/p/usb-fe...gb-tf-card-card-reader-kit-for-xtc-clip-82289
You can do it much cheaper with adapters and a regular y adapter though, and you may want to do so, so that you can have a longer cable from the charger to the y split, but yeah I will try this out sometime soon and let you know how it works.
The charger probably gives enough power to easily run things like a external HDD and such while the battery pack may not.
@Vicious ... couldn't that possibly put too much power to a USB device? Just saying since it is probably meant to be hooked up to a regular USB 5v port and (I don't know the specifics but) the touchpad USB power adapter has a high AMP output (might be talking sht here).
Nothing to worry about a device only "pulls" the amperage it needs so you can have extra with no harm to the device. It is the voltage that needs to match and usb is standard 5v.
Having too little amperage can actually cause a device harm due to malfunction, like a head crashing on a 2.5" hdd during use or a thumb drive failing to flash properly corrupting a sector.
I feel anybody that uses the touchpad in a docked setting that wants to use a keyboard may very well make use of my idea, that I of course got from the OP's idea.
I'll part it out for the cheapest way to make it without any cutting/soldering and test it soon enough.
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@Vicious ... couldn't that possibly put too much power to a USB device? Just saying since it is probably meant to be hooked up to a regular USB 5v port and (I don't know the specifics but) the touchpad USB power adapter has a high AMP output (might be talking sht here).
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That cable will work fine. I wasn't doing anything special, only eliminating the y-cable. I mainly wanted a small form factor way of adding a USB port to my case for portability. Now I can put a movie on a usb drive and watch it on the go.
You generally don't have to worry about using a supply that is to powerful. As long as the voltage output is 5 V, the device will only draw a certain current and consume the corresponding amount of power. The rating on a constant voltage supply is simply the maximum current it can provide, the amount it provides depends on the properties of the device.
Say you have a device, it states it operates at 5 V and draws 100 mA of current. That means the impedance of the device is R = V / I = 50 ohms. So if you use a 5 V supply rated to at least 100 mA, the device will only draw 100 mA. The supply can be rated for 100 mA or 1000 amps, it does not matter. (Although you wouldn't want to use 1000 A source as if something breaks or shorts it can draw a higher current)
Wikipedia "ohms law" if you are not familiar.
I tried to do this but can't get it to work, the touchpad shows the charging battery icon only it's not charging, and running dmesg it say source=charger mA=100 and usb otg exited low power mode and then right after says it entered low power mode... Not sure what the issue is...
edit: I'm thinking it may be my soldering work, gonna give it another pass...
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I tried to do this but can't get it to work, the touchpad shows the charging battery icon only it's not charging, and running dmesg it say source=charger mA=100 and usb otg exited low power mode and then right after says it entered low power mode... Not sure what the issue is...
edit: I'm thinking it may be my soldering work, gonna give it another pass...
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You may have the two data pins shorted together. To the best of my knowledge, this tells the touchpad to go into charging mode. The touchpad charger does this, because in order to charge, it must draw more power than USB ports are designed to provide.
You need to remove the two resistors circled in the PDF. These keep the data pins shorted together as well.
This is a really great idea I think I might try it and your tut is very well explained thanks for taking the time out to put it all together
Thanks
Mouse works fine, keyboard hasn't been tried yet. How do you access a flash drive through this? What are the steps?
If you just cut out the resistors in the battery hub, could you just use the TP's regular cable to plug into one of the ports on the hub?
tpcm said:
Mouse works fine, keyboard hasn't been tried yet. How do you access a flash drive through this? What are the steps?
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Stick mount works great
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Hi All,
I ended up purchasing the Rezond based on the previous feedback, but I'm still in the test-drive phase. I'm really enjoying the phone so far and so far I'm thinking "keep". The included headphones are really great also compared to my previous headphones! I'll be waiting at least another week before I decide to keep the phone and decide to put a better ROM on the phone.
Anyway, what's the deal with the charge cable? Standard Micro-USB fits fine, but what's up with the funky cable that came with the device? Will this cause any problems using a longer standard cable or will it cause the phone to charge slower? Does this cable need to be used for proper connection to a PC?
Custom cables always make me leery.
Sorry if this has been asked, searching for custom usb, charge cable, custom cable did not return an results.
Its actually not a custom cable. It is a MHL adapter. Lots of talk about it in the Accessories forum.
Basically one port for charging and HDMI out instead of two separate ports.
You can charge fine with a regular micro usb cable, I don't think it's slower but I've never timed it.
If you want to get more like the ones that came with the phone you can get the HTC Flyer cables in white here:
http://www.expansys-usa.com/htc-flyer-data-cable-dc-t500-extmicro-usb-12pin-white-209995/
I bought two of them since I like the secure feeling of the snap in.
I've never tried using a regular micro usb for data and don't have one within arm's reach and I'm really super comfy right now so I'm not going to get up but I don't see why it wouldn't work.
In the accessories forum try searching "mhl cable" and I think you'll come up with two threads about it if you want further info.
I am using a blackberry (micro USB) cable at work, and the OEM cable at home, I see no different in charge time or PC connectivity between the 2 cable.
I also use a blackberry AC adapter to charge the rezound when I am in a pinch.
HTH.
Thanks.
I figured any standard micro-usb cable will work. A MHL cable makes sense though, I've just never actually seen one and I'm not familiar with the form factor.
I'll be looking into this, thank you again.
"MHL" A Lot More Solid
The MHL cable feels a lot more solid than a micro USB. I have a couple micro usb that have gotten loose, and now just fall out of the phone if turned over, or if I hit a bump in the car. Thanks for finding a source to buy more of the MHL cables.
Also here slightly less expensive.
http://www.amazon.com/HTC-Flyer-Data-Sync-Cable/dp/B004VF616C/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics
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Also here slightly less expensive.
http://www.amazon.com/HTC-Flyer-Data-Sync-Cable/dp/B004VF616C/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics
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How long are those cables? Doesn't say on the page; unless I'm blind.
There is no such thing as an "MHL cable".
The format of the port and cable that come with the Rezound is called "EXTMicro USB".
"MHL" refers to a standard for connecting small electronics to HDTVs. It works with a regular Micro USB cable. Last time I checked (a couple of weeks ago) there are no MHL adapters that utilize EXTMicro USB connectors. Most of the ones that I've found use a regular Micro USB connector.
At this time, it's unclear exactly what the extra 7 pins in the connector in this phone are for. Other HTC phones have used them for analog audio and video output, but this doesn't appear to be supported by the rezound.
If you look at your rezound, you will see it only has the 5 pins. It does utilize the ExtMicro USB plug end/shape. If it truly had the ExtMico USB then while using the mhl adapter it could charge your phone via A/C while streaming. But it can't because the data pins are being used/ there are only 5 pins.
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That's an excellent point about charging while using an MHL adapter. One could still force fast charging through software, such as what's available in Incredikernel/control, though.
On my rezound, I most definitely have contacts in the extra spots. The cable my phone came with, however, doesn't have any pins for them to contact.
Prefader said:
That's an excellent point about charging while using an MHL adapter. One could still force fast charging through software, such as what's available in Incredikernel/control, though.
On my rezound, I most definitely have contacts in the extra spots. The cable my phone came with, however, doesn't have any pins for them to contact.
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You are right the phone has it, the does not cable. That is my mistake. I knew one of them didn't just was too lazy to check.
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