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I have not used the maps app at all today, and my usage shows its been used for an hour and a half. Other than Google now, what should be using maps that often?
bugeyeblue said:
I have not used the maps app at all today, and my usage shows its been used for an hour and a half. Other than Google now, what should be using maps that often?
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It's not like that. Just like whatsapp which stays always on to keep you connected, Google maps also stays on even though you don't open it as a system background process although you don't need it. The best way to remove this is to root your phone and uninstall this 'bloatware'
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RazaVakil7995 said:
It's not like that. Just like whatsapp which stays always on to keep you connected, Google maps also stays on even though you don't open it as a system background process although you don't need it. The best way to remove this is to root your phone and uninstall this 'bloatware'
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There's no need to delete Google Maps. You just need to regain some control from the app. By default it sends location data to Google. This periodic data 'seepage' also seems to have the affect of 'waking' the phone from deep sleep. Silly, especially since Google wrote the damn OS.
Anyway, this issue has been covered in other threads; you should search, there are more precise instructions out there
...or you can rely on my questionable memory; as I recall-
- Go into Google Maps
- Choose Settings
- Choose Location Settings
- Un-check "Report From This Device"
Also, make sure (on same screen) that Enable Location Sharing is NOT checked and that any of the other location-specific items on the same screen are un-checked.
If you're wondering about 'Location Reporting' under Background Location Reporting, mine is set to 'Detect your location' (thus I think this setting is OK).
Try this out. For me, Gmaps no longer uses data (or wakes the phone) unless I'm explicitly using it.
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There's no need to delete Google Maps. You just need to regain some control from the app. By default it sends location data to Google. This periodic data 'seepage' also seems to have the affect of 'waking' the phone from deep sleep. Silly, especially since Google wrote the damn OS.
Anyway, this issue has been covered in other threads; you should search, there are more precise instructions out there
...or you can rely on my questionable memory; as I recall-
- Go into Google Maps
- Choose Settings
- Choose Location Settings
- Un-check "Report From This Device"
Also, make sure (on same screen) that Enable Location Sharing is NOT checked and that any of the other location-specific items on the same screen are un-checked.
If you're wondering about 'Location Reporting' under Background Location Reporting, mine is set to 'Detect your location' (thus I think this setting is OK).
Try this out. For me, Gmaps no longer uses data (or wakes the phone) unless I'm explicitly using it.
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Awesome. Thanks for the help. I set it up the way you suggested and I'll see how it works over the next day or so.
You could the free app Greenify as well. Anything that runs in the background without your permission will get shut down by it.
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You could the free app Greenify as well. Anything that runs in the background without your permission will get shut down by it.
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Excellent app, but it does require root privileges.
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You could the free app Greenify as well. Anything that runs in the background without your permission will get shut down by it.
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It's desirable (to many) to have at least some background apps able to run/consume data. Yes, you can disable all (or ration out when they're 'allowed' to run, but then you lose out on the full capabilities of the device.
Trust me, having come from Sprint and a GS2, I am well versed in shutting down and restricting apps. What I LOVE about my GS4 is that I can let virtually all apps run (within reason, and w/exception of Gmaps as noted above) and I still have 28-40 hour battery cycles.
Just be wary of 'out of control' apps. Tame them, freeze them, or delete them, but only as a last resort would I disable all background apps.
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It's desirable (to many) to have at least some background apps able to run/consume data. Yes, you can disable all (or ration out when they're 'allowed' to run, but then you lose out on the full capabilities of the device.
Trust me, having come from Sprint and a GS2, I am well versed in shutting down and restricting apps. What I LOVE about my GS4 is that I can let virtually all apps run (within reason, and w/exception of Gmaps as noted above) and I still have 28-40 hour battery cycles.
Just be wary of 'out of control' apps. Tame them, freeze them, or delete them, but only as a last resort would I disable all background apps.
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I agree. Just saying. Those apps that you don't want to run, you can tell Greenify which ones to disallow access. A one stop shop, as it were.
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I agree. Just saying. Those apps that you don't want to run, you can tell Greenify which ones to disallow access. A one stop shop, as it were.
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My bad. For some reason I thought your response said "disable all background apps". Thx for the app tip.
Hi
First of all thank you Oasis for creating a tool to fix things that shouldn't be broken to begin with! You are an example for a lot of developers :good:
I've read the first couple of posts on the original thread but I still have a few things that are not clear..
The advice of Oasis himself is too hibernate only those apps that misbehave. He states that hibernating apps will also remove them from the memory, which will come with a performance/cpu usage penalty when you want to use them again.
In the video tutorial however Josh greenifies almost every application that doesn't need push notifications.
So this would mean that when I use an application that doesn't have notifications but I open frequently, for example Nu.nl, a dutch newsapp, it will always have to reload the app from scratch instead of loading it from memory?
So baically the best way to use Greenify would be to NOT just greenify most apps, but to use the analyzer frequently and see what's running in the background and greenify those that don't depend on notifications?
Then newsapps that don't push news, image viewers, file managers, system tools like SD Maid and simple games that don't use internet should be ok not being greenified?
Is there no big list available of apps that misbehave or are safe to keep de-greenified?
Thanks in advance for any help on this.
Basically you got it right. Use the built-in analyzer as well as disable service and autostarts to check apps' behaviour. For my experience, sometimes is better to disable a background service than greenify an app, if the app "misbehave" for this service only (of course you'll have to check if the app still works). An example: guaranteedhttpservice and tracksyncservice in shazam...
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Basically you got it right. Use the built-in analyzer as well as disable service and autostarts to check apps' behaviour. For my experience, sometimes is better to disable a background service than greenify an app, if the app "misbehave" for this service only (of course you'll have to check if the app still works). An example: guaranteedhttpservice and tracksyncservice in shazam...
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Where can I find and disable things like tracksyncservice? I also use Shazam but I can't find both services you mentioned in Greenify nor TiB?
latino147 said:
Where can I find and disable things like tracksyncservice? I also use Shazam but I can't find both services you mentioned in Greenify nor TiB?
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"Disable Service" (and "Autostarts") from play store.
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"Disable Service" (and "Autostarts") from play store.
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Ah, I believed those were two functions withing Greenify I couldn't find
wtf, FB has 62! services! None of them where active though, until you open the app, then it was 3.
So you can choose between greenifying an app which will basically kill all services from an app, even background services on one hand, and choosing specifically which services too disable, like you did with Shazam.
The only issue with this second method being that you don't always really know what these services do.
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So you can choose between greenifying an app which will basically kill all services from an app, even background services on one hand, and choosing specifically which services too disable, like you did with Shazam.
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Exactly. Take google play services for example. If you greenify it, you'll lose gcm and other functions and that's not advisable at all (in fact greenify hides it). But with disable service (and autostarts/system tuner)you can choose what to disable while still mantaining gcm, location services (when needed), sync etc. I can' remember what I did in system tuner regarding gplay services (I followed some tutorial), but with disable service I disabled analyticsservice (this one will reactivate itself unless you do some tweak with system tuner), refreshenabledstateservice, playlogreportingservice, googlehttpservice, playlogbrokerservice, adrequestbrokerservice, gcmschedulerwakeupservice, advertisingidservice, adsmeasurementservice, locationwearablelistenerservice, nlplocationreceiverservice, geocodeservice, dispatchingservice and playlogservice. A reboot is needed. Haven't lost a single function since weeks (gcm, location, autosync and every google app in general are working 100% fine).
Same story with play store. Apps wake it very often, so greenify it does more harm than good. Instead, you can disable pendingnotificationsservice, contentsyncservice and dailyhygiene (and will still be fully functional).
Of course these are little tips to increase performance and battery life even more. I use greenify for 90% and more of apps that "misbehave" and disable service/autostarts/system tuner for the remaining 10% "misbehaving" apps. However, an app "fixed" with such methods will stay cached while with greenify is completely closed (resulting in more cpu/time/battery consumption when loaded again).
The only issue with this second method being that you don't always really know what these services do.
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Like I already said, for general purposes you'd better simply greenify the "misbehaving" apps. If you use it/it is woken very often, you can consider these methods.
Yes, it's a "trial and error" thing. Unless you're disabling services with self-explainatory names such as "pushservice".
Never installed Facebook official app but I heard many times that is a notorious hogger and takes many personal datas too, for which you can look for xprivacy xposed module as well.
I'll start experimenting with it today :good:
For some reason my WhatsApp can't automatic hibernate. It's always in the 'Not hibernating automatically'. Whenever I manually make it hibernate, I don't receive any notifications or messages unless I open the app. I have the donation version, GCM is checked, keep notifications is checked, I have greenify enabled in both Accessibility and DeviceAdmin.
I do receive further notification and messages after I opened WhatsApp manually. Anyone else has experienced this and/or has a solution to fix this?
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For some reason my WhatsApp can't automatic hibernate. It's always in the 'Not hibernating automatically'. Whenever I manually make it hibernate, I don't receive any notifications or messages unless I open the app. I have the donation version, GCM is checked, keep notifications is checked, I have greenify enabled in both Accessibility and DeviceAdmin.
I do receive further notification and messages after I opened WhatsApp manually. Anyone else has experienced this and/or has a solution to fix this?
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Quite weird as I don't face this! I would suggest for you to uninstall whatsapp, and then install it again. Backup its data beforehand with Titanium Backup if you intend to save the messages.
TechnoSparks said:
Quite weird as I don't face this! I would suggest for you to uninstall whatsapp, and then install it again. Backup its data beforehand with Titanium Backup if you intend to save the messages.
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Didn't work. I still only get the messages when I open WhatsApp. Automatic hibernation is working now tho, for WhatsApp.
Slmii92 said:
Didn't work. I still only get the messages when I open WhatsApp. Automatic hibernation is working now tho, for WhatsApp.
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There's no actual fix for this, but I would try to reinstall Greenify, reset its device administrator and then clear the dalvik cache. It is quite of an isolated problem.. I sometime do have to admit Clash of Clans, Facebook and some 2 other I don't remember, stay without automatic hibernation but I can now cope with it. Thanks to swipe gestures of Nova Launcher lol.
And since it is a problem only related to certain apps, I don't think greenify should be blamed for this.
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There's no actual fix for this, but I would try to reinstall Greenify, reset its device administrator and then clear the dalvik cache. It is quite of an isolated problem.. I sometime do have to admit Clash of Clans, Facebook and some 2 other I don't remember, stay without automatic hibernation but I can now cope with it. Thanks to swipe gestures of Nova Launcher lol.
And since it is a problem only related to certain apps, I don't think greenify should be blamed for this.
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Funny thing is...if you un-greenify them and then choose to greenify them again and then hibernated them. The next time those apps will auto hibernated.
But upon reboot, the whole process starts all over again...weird.
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TechnoSparks said:
There's no actual fix for this, but I would try to reinstall Greenify, reset its device administrator and then clear the dalvik cache. It is quite of an isolated problem.. I sometime do have to admit Clash of Clans, Facebook and some 2 other I don't remember, stay without automatic hibernation but I can now cope with it. Thanks to swipe gestures of Nova Launcher lol.
And since it is a problem only related to certain apps, I don't think greenify should be blamed for this.
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I did a Factory Reset yesterday, because I had some issues. Thought it would work after the reset, but it didn't. How do you use the gestures to hibernate, coz I have also Nova Launcher?
Slmii92 said:
I did a Factory Reset yesterday, because I had some issues. Thought it would work after the reset, but it didn't. How do you use the gestures to hibernate, coz I have also Nova Launcher?
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You'll need to purchase Nova Prime in order for the feature to work. Assuming you have Nova and its premium features, go to Nova settings, and then tap on "Gestures and Buttons". Afterwards, choose your desired gesture, and then when choosing the action for a gesture, tap on "Shortcuts" tab, and choose Greenify's "Hibernate now" shortcut.
I personally choose the swipe up gesture. So when I am at the home screen, and I do also want my apps to be greenified forcibly, I will just have to swipe the screen up, and then the magic happens
kotaxor said:
Funny thing is...if you un-greenify them and then choose to greenify them again and then hibernated them. The next time those apps will auto hibernated.
But upon reboot, the whole process starts all over again...weird.
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In my case, this only happens to some apps. Others are perfectly hibernated. I agree it does feel weird, but I don't really concern about it.
Yes it only happen on some apps for me too..but if you un-greenify one of them and greenify it again and hibernated all of them, the next time all the apps will behave.
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kotaxor said:
Funny thing is...if you un-greenify them and then choose to greenify them again and then hibernated them. The next time those apps will auto hibernated.
But upon reboot, the whole process starts all over again...weird.
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You're right, I just tested this and it actually work. Only tested this with WhatsApp tho. Thanks! But the problem I'm still having is, whenever WhatsApp is hibernated, I'm not getting any notifications and messages, even tho I have GCM enabled. I read that other people do receive them, so I find this really weird why it's not working.
TechnoSparks said:
You'll need to purchase Nova Prime in order for the feature to work. Assuming you have Nova and its premium features, go to Nova settings, and then tap on "Gestures and Buttons". Afterwards, choose your desired gesture, and then when choosing the action for a gesture, tap on "Shortcuts" tab, and choose Greenify's "Hibernate now" shortcut.
I personally choose the swipe up gesture. So when I am at the home screen, and I do also want my apps to be greenified forcibly, I will just have to swipe the screen up, and then the magic happens
In my case, this only happens to some apps. Others are perfectly hibernated. I agree it does feel weird, but I don't really concern about it.
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I'm using Hibernate + Lock for double tap atm, and it's hibernating WhatsApp with the method above. I tested it with Google Play Services as well, but that didn't work. So my only problem now is not receiving anything while hibernated. Still can't figure this out. -_-'
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I'm using Hibernate + Lock for double tap atm, and it's hibernating WhatsApp with the method above. I tested it with Google Play Services as well, but that didn't work. So my only problem now is not receiving anything while hibernated. Still can't figure this out. -_-'
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You should not mess with Play Services! You should know that GCM apps use play services to deliver push notifications!
About whatsapp, most people sorted the problem out by enabling Device Admin. In the OP, you've mentioned that you did that. I suggest degreenify play services, and re-activate device admin.
kotaxor said:
Yes it only happen on some apps for me too..but if you un-greenify one of them and greenify it again and hibernated all of them, the next time all the apps will behave.
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TechnoSparks said:
You should not mess with Play Services! You should know that GCM apps use play services to deliver push notifications!
About whatsapp, most people sorted the problem out by enabling Device Admin. In the OP, you've mentioned that you did that. I suggest degreenify play services, and re-activate device admin.
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Funny thing is, after I ungreenify WhatsApp and then greenify it, it will be hibernated and then I do receive the messages. Whenever I open WhatsAspp, it's going back to the 'Not automatically hibernating' list. Really werid. It says 'Service in use by Android-system Push'. The only way of hibernating it, would be forcibly, but then again, I wont receive anything and it will go back to the same list.
I removed Google Play Services from the list and did re-activated greenify in device admin, didnt work.
I had try greenifying Whatsapp before, sometimes it works real good, sometimes I encounter the same issue as you. As such, I did not greenify it again.
I don't greenify Play Services.
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Maybe I'll give it up as well. But on the other hand, I really want it to work, because the main reason I bought it was for WhatsApp.
Install greenify then clean master.. It works. And saves battery
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Slmii92 said:
Maybe I'll give it up as well. But on the other hand, I really want it to work, because the main reason I bought it was for WhatsApp.
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Yes, I understand. I also wanted this to be sorted out too.
ImmaN00B said:
Install greenify then clean master.. It works. And saves battery
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Yes, I understand. I also wanted this to be sorted out too.
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Ok, I think I found the solution. I had this app, called Wakelock Terminator. Within the app, I checked 'Prevent Wakelock' for Google Play Services. I unchecked it and deleted everything in the 'Filter' field and after that I deleted the app as well, because the reason I had this app was for Google Play Services.
Now WhatsApp is working while hibernated. I'm getting the notifications and messages. Maybe this would be your problem as well?
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Ok, I think I found the solution. I had this app, called Wakelock Terminator. Within the app, I checked 'Prevent Wakelock' for Google Play Services. I unchecked it and deleted everything in the 'Filter' field and after that I deleted the app as well, because the reason I had this app was for Google Play Services.
Now WhatsApp is working while hibernated. I'm getting the notifications and messages. Maybe this would be your problem as well?
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Nah WhatsApp is not the problem. It is okay for me. The only problem I have is the other apps that people don't report it here. But I don't really mind about it. And I don't kill any wakelock or some sort, so the problem lies on those rogue apps instead. Anyway glad you finally worked it out. Told ya it doesn't have to do with Greenify
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Nah WhatsApp is not the problem. It is okay for me. The only problem I have is the other apps that people don't report it here. But I don't really mind about it. And I don't kill any wakelock or some sort, so the problem lies on those rogue apps instead. Anyway glad you finally worked it out. Told ya it doesn't have to do with Greenify
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Yup, same here, did not hibernated Whatsapp too..no battery issues, I'm still getting 0.2% per hour during deep sleep regardless of whether Whatsapp is hibernated or not.
Did tried to hibernate it before tho and get occasionally delayed message..Lol
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kotaxor said:
Yup, same here, did not hibernated Whatsapp too..no battery issues, I'm still getting 0.2% per hour during deep sleep regardless of whether Whatsapp is hibernated or not.
Did tried to hibernate it before tho and get occasionally delayed message..Lol
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Well I actually hibernate whatsapp but still have push messages come in. I have to agree it does comes a bit late but sometimes it appears instantly when I connect to a wifi. I may consider ungreenifying it though, but not now.
Hi. My phone is rooted and using Greenify Donation Package. I have greenified some system apps which I never use it like Google+, Google Search, Hangout, Google Stand, Google Movies. However, I realized that those apps automatically wake up by itself eventhough I never open them. Anybody experiences like this?
They always do. In Google's scheme of things, everything is interconnected.
If you open even a paid third party app, it will wake up Playstore which will in turn wake up Download Manager.
What you should do is, when the app greenified by you shows up in the 'to be hibernated' section, highlight it by touching it. You will see a scissors icon along with zzz. Click the scissors icon and you will get a dialog box which will inform you which app/process woke the app. If you are sure that you do not want the app to be woken up by the app/process shown, you can click 'continue' and the link will be severed. After that, the greenified app will not be woken up by that app/process.
But be sure of what you are doing, because if you cut an essential link, something may cease to work and you may end up with a dead phone.
Thanks a lot tnsmani
mind741 said:
Hi. My phone is rooted and using Greenify Donation Package. I have greenified some system apps which I never use it like Google+, Google Search, Hangout, Google Stand, Google Movies. However, I realized that those apps automatically wake up by itself eventhough I never open them. Anybody experiences like this?
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If you don't use them, try to freeze them
Hello guys, I have a problem with the Facebook and Messenger app, they don't hibernate even if I manually hibernate them.
I tried cutting off the wakelock path, ignoring running state and enabling deep hibernation, but even after that I open the app to find them in the "will hibernate when screen is off" section. They've been draining my battery crazily!
Any other suggestions to do?
Same here. I think a recent Messenger update somehow changed something that prevents Greenify from hibernating it. I am using Lolliop via CM 12.1 Nighly (the very last one before CM 13).
I thought so too and rolled back to some older version, still the same problem with no luck. It's extremely frustrating.
Having the same problem here after their latest update.
Same problem, I mean I only lost like 4% over 5 hours but it should be a lot less, it was Facebook and messenger in my partial wakelocks
I used amplify to limit the wakelocks by them, the wakelock is called bugreporter and so far it hasn't affected notifications, and now they don't keep the device awake anymore.
You can also download older versions which didn't cause the issue here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=64816556&postcount=28
so any news about this yet?
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so any news about this yet?
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What about the post above yours? That not sufficient for you?
Same here, gets woken by LollipopSerivce and stays up for hours until I manually killed it with "put in to hibernation now"
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Same with me, i uninstalled FB but i need messenger for chatting
Also the persistant notification from Messenger seems to prevent it from sleeping (Sequence : Messenger is hibernating, I receive a GCM push that wake him up but then it keep being "up" if i don't throw away the pop-up....). Or maybe i'm totally wrong dunno
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Same problem
Same here, really frustrating.
Same here, I came here to look if there's anyone else with this problem.
I don't want to install amplify just for fb and msn.
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This may be a workaround for now but this is what I did: I tapped on Facebook to highlight it. I then tapped the three-dot menu and selected "Put into hibernation now". A popup then showed-up warning of possible data loss or functionality problems. There is a checkbox in the popup for "Always ignore app state". I ticked it and continued. I did the same procedure for Messenger.
They usually get rid of this trick
With Amplify it's ok.. no more drain from messenger..
SAme problem, back to 2.8 and it´s working
Same here now with notification from greenify... ****ing facebook wakes u every 5min... Anoying.. With the only 2gb ram my phone laggs... Lg g3... Anyway. I will uminstall ans see if my phone gets faster
I had the same problem. I installed greenfy free and saw what wakes up my apps... After i installed " Disable Services " and disable two services. It works for me in facebook, i dont know about messenger. Sorry my bad english.
reggiexp said:
Same here now with notification from greenify... ****ing facebook wakes u every 5min... Anoying.. With the only 2gb ram my phone laggs... Lg g3... Anyway. I will uminstall ans see if my phone gets faster
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Dump the horrible facebook app and work through the FB web site instead. Or give Hermit a whirl to speed things up even further.
Davey126 said:
Dump the horrible facebook app and work through the FB web site instead. Or give Hermit a whirl to speed things up even further.
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i did deleted on my lg g3
but on on a 3gb phone it works fine