I am currently fully rooted, running the latest jasmineRom. I liked the stock based kernal, had some nice features like tap to turn on, etc, and haven't dabbled in other roms such as CMMod, LiquidSmooth etc on the G3. Honestly I don't know if they have some of the features for waking the screen by tapping it that make the G3 usable without any front buttons, and changing roms and recustomizing / installing everything is a bit of a bear, so I haven't experimented with it.
My phone has the 5.1.1 update downloaded, keeps wanting to schedule it. (It actually tried to install itself, but I think TWRP prevented it from working). So now I am faced with the question of, what to do?
Do I let 5.1.1 install, and thereby gain Android Pay, which I did like, but lose root, which I enjoy for letting me debloat my phone? (Also G3 tweeksbox) Those are really the only things I've used root for. Do I experiment with other roms? (And then, how do I return to stock? Does TWRP prevent me from doing so, or would it get taken out in the update? I honestly don't know and have yet to find that information). I have read the Flash back to Stock using the KDZ method, which is actually how I rooted my phone to begin with, but it seems that is under the assumption I am running a stock rom / bootloader to begin with.
Just trying to get some input from people far more familier with this than I. If there is a way back to stock, including bootloader, what ROM would you recommend I try?
Thanks in advance!
Hi! Questions go in Q&A.
Be aware that if you take 5.1.1 that so far you *can't* root even if you want to, and you also can't currently downgrade.
If you're looking to return to completely stock including the recovery, so that you can take OTAs in the future, then flash the 24B KDZ with LG Flash Tool 2014. If you want to be rooted but be able to turn root off and on, you can do that with any, although I think Pay only works with stock. Another user on here just found out that merely temporarily deactivating root allowed him to use Pay just fine. Probably have to reboot in between turning it on and off - not sure.
Here are my thoughts on the subject: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=63191071&postcount=135
Personally, I like rooting and twrp b/c of nandoid backups, debloating, removing ads and using titanium backup. I would feel truly lost without these options (and, to be perfectly honest, I love tinkering with electronics). If you decide to pass on the update for now, freeze system update using titanium backup, then wipe cache and that should remove the downloaded update in memory prior to installation . It's really a personal choice, but for me, I will likely stay where I am now rather than give up root.
The only reason I really rooted this phone was to get rid of bloat and fix the weak notification volume. I've never been one to jump aboard new updates as soon as they're released. Gonna wait it out and see if something happens with the root situation.
Decided I might as well try a custom rom, never used a custom rom on a phone, only tablets. Titanium backup and custom recovery are valuable tools, and decided it was worth the risk.
Went with Liquid Smooth, which I think has auto-updates ala CM Mod. So I get the benefits of 5.1.1, without the hassle of Verizon. Going to see what I think.
Thanks for the replies!
The update deactivates wireless charging. That was the deal breaker for me.
Edit: Turns out my wife and I both had a bad update. I used repair assistant and wireless charging is working again.
a2597 said:
Decided I might as well try a custom rom, never used a custom rom on a phone, only tablets. Titanium backup and custom recovery are valuable tools, and decided it was worth the risk.
Went with Liquid Smooth, which I think has auto-updates ala CM Mod. So I get the benefits of 5.1.1, without the hassle of Verizon. Going to see what I think.
Thanks for the replies!
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Ive been running a CM12 based ROM for months now, it fixes almost everything wrong with the 5.0.2 update and with this update blocking root and downgrading, it seems CM12 based ROMS are the best choice for now.
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The update deactivates wireless charging. That was the deal breaker for me.
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Where did you hear that? A web search shows inconsistent functionality starting with v5.0 with various carriers, including one report of someone who tried everything to get it to work and couldn't, so he reassembled his phone and tossed it on the charger, and it started working.
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Where did you hear that? A web search shows inconsistent functionality starting with v5.0 with various carriers, including one report of someone who tried everything to get it to work and couldn't, so he reassembled his phone and tossed it on the charger, and it started working.
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Sorry, I should of been clearer. The update to 35b, 5.1.1, will render wireless charging useless. It can not be rooted. If you decide to update then you will loose root until the devs can figure it out. That will have to wait until the kdz is available. I have been wireless charging since I got the phone and bought the new back from ebay. It has worked without fail until the latest update.
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I should have been clearer as well. I take it that you are saying that wireless charging stopped working on your VS985 phones when you upgraded to v5.1.1. That's distinct from saying that wireless charging no longer works when anyone upgrades the LG G3 to v5.1.1.
Certainly your one two data points are significant, but I'd like to know if it's confirmed that it won't work on other VS985 phones that upgrade to v5.1.1 (35B).
I'm tempted to go buy one of the charging backs and pads. Where did you get yours? I seriously considered it a year ago when I bought the phone, but the lack of a nice belt clip deterred me. How are you carrying the phone (eg, belt clip or what)?
Edit: I was told that the charging back made the phone thicker. However, a little research seems to suggest that's only true for Verizon's "Circle case" (eg, a combined front and back), which I don't need. Someone even reported that they just cut off the front case, and then it fit their belt clip holder. Also, another reporter said that it charged much slower. Comments on all of this?
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I should have been clearer as well. I take it that you are saying that wireless charging stopped working on your VS985 phones when you upgraded to v5.1.1. That's distinct from saying that wireless charging no longer works when anyone upgrades the LG G3 to v5.1.1.
Certainly your one two data points are significant, but I'd like to know if it's confirmed that it won't work on other VS985 phones that upgrade.
I'm tempted to go buy one of the charging backs and pads. Where did you get yours? I seriously considered it a year ago when I bought the phone, but the lack of a nice belt clip deterred me. How are you carrying the phone (eg, belt clip or what)?
Edit: I was told that the charging back made the phone thicker. However, a little research seems to suggest that's only true for Verizon's "Circle case" (eg, a combined front and back), which I don't need. Someone even reported that they just cut off the front case, and then it fit their belt clip holder. Also, another reporter said that it charged much slower. Comments on all of this?
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I have the vs985 on verizon, purchased about 1 week after it's release. It is rooted since stump and I have run either Jasmine or skydragon (currently sd5.0/4.2 kernel) . I purchased the charging sticker (available on ebay at the time). I was able to put the sticker onto the original back of the phone and wirelessly charge it both with a circle case (US lgg3) and without. I also bought a Korean circle case that had a charging sticker built into it. I removed the european charging sticker and replaced that one with one of the ones that I purchased on ebay (again, for US, wireless charging) and that worked as well (did not need the original oem back in this situation as the circle case back served as phone back, again this worked on a US wireless charger perfectly (I have a tylt). Never used a belt clip, but hope that this provides you with some useful information. Charging was complete and never slow.
a2597 said:
I am currently fully rooted, running the latest jasmineRom. I liked the stock based kernal, had some nice features like tap to turn on, etc, and haven't dabbled in other roms such as CMMod, LiquidSmooth etc on the G3. Honestly I don't know if they have some of the features for waking the screen by tapping it that make the G3 usable without any front buttons, and changing roms and recustomizing / installing everything is a bit of a bear, so I haven't experimented with it.
My phone has the 5.1.1 update downloaded, keeps wanting to schedule it. (It actually tried to install itself, but I think TWRP prevented it from working). So now I am faced with the question of, what to do?
Do I let 5.1.1 install, and thereby gain Android Pay, which I did like, but lose root, which I enjoy for letting me debloat my phone? (Also G3 tweeksbox) Those are really the only things I've used root for. Do I experiment with other roms? (And then, how do I return to stock? Does TWRP prevent me from doing so, or would it get taken out in the update? I honestly don't know and have yet to find that information). I have read the Flash back to Stock using the KDZ method, which is actually how I rooted my phone to begin with, but it seems that is under the assumption I am running a stock rom / bootloader to begin with.
Just trying to get some input from people far more familier with this than I. If there is a way back to stock, including bootloader, what ROM would you recommend I try?
Thanks in advance!
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I don't understand the issue.
I have an LG G3 with TWRP, Xposed and root; I can use Android Pay.
I had to jump through hoops but I can use it. Adding cards is a pain, but I can do that too.
To get it working you have to temp-unroot.
Install and configure Pay.
Re-enable root.
You will need to install Xposed and the module that provides cloaking for root, for Pay called -> No Device Check http://repo.xposed.info/module/com.pyler.nodevicecheck
Now you should be able to use Android Pay.
Jasmine 9.0 is out. I'd try that out. Its 5.1.1 with root
xdabbeb has the 35b bootstack that can be flashed to get advanced calling features working. Read about it.
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Just came off of having to put up with using Razr M's for the last two years. I bought two used G3's this week and am now attempting to figure out which way to go.
These are our first LG products since flip days. The specs of the G3 really grabbed my attention when I read up on it.
I've spent the last (7) hours crawling around this forum and am now somewhat burned-out, overwhelmed, confused, ETC. (and the beer supply ran out...)
The two (new to me) phones are in great shape. One is @24B and the other is @10B
The 24B unit pulled down the 35B update today and is waiting/holding to update.
The 10B unit when I select 'Check for Updates' is pulling down a 110MB update, however when I select 'Install', it reboots, attempts upgrade and then returns a error #0x1111004. I got a feeling that the PO didn't execute something quite right when he wiped it before selling it.
Since these units are at a stage where I can wipe and flash at will, I'm trying to determine if I should go custom or just accept the 35B.
I'm leaning towards Jasmine 9 or Xdabbeb. Once I get these setup & configured I'll most likely stay with it. I'll tinker but that's about it.
I want stability and reliability and won't be flashing just to try out the latest. (i may have to get ahold of another for that )
One feature that caught my eye that I would truly, dearly like to have is 'Record Call'. (if possible)
So if I may ask for some opinions on which way to go I would appreciate it.
Thanks in Advance,
_Dan
middle_road said:
Since these units are at a stage where I can wipe and flash at will, I'm trying to determine if I should go custom or just accept the 35B.
I'm leaning towards Jasmine 9 or Xdabbeb. Once I get these setup & configured I'll most likely stay with it. I'll tinker but that's about it.
I want stability and reliability and won't be flashing just to try out the latest. (i may have to get ahold of another for that [emoji14])
One feature that caught my eye that I would truly, dearly like to have is 'Record Call'. (if possible)
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Hi and welcome! First, any used phone who knows what state they left the phone in so I would use LG Flash Tool 2014 with the 10B KDZ in Windows PC after having installed the Verizon LG drivers, which are different than the drivers for the other G3s, and then rebooted the PC.
Look for the return to stock thread in the Verizon G3 General section. It might mention the TOT method too, I prefer the KDZ method because it's easier.
Then root with the Stump app, install TWRP v2.8.7.0 with the TWRP Manager app and flash the custom ROM you want.
I'm using @xdabbeb 's and my personal opinion is that it's awesome. Very, very debloated. Runs cooler, battery lasts even longer.
Be warned that on this phone sometimes when you reboot it will go to a black screen and not actually boot up.
Sometimes you can just hold the power button in for up a while (not sure on the count, maybe 30 seconds or so) and that will shut it off and it you held it long enough it will power back on, too.
Once you have your ROM set up, if you decide to try another stock ROM, use the built in LG Backup (in settings). It's faster, easier and more reliable than Titanium Backup in my opinion and in the opinion of some others on here, although there are some users who have had trouble with LG Backup working for them.
I use it with every new updated stock ROM.
One caveat of LG Backup is that when you make a backup, it stops a bunch of things like the clock app for the alarm and they stay stopped until you run them once again, just like right after you restore apps with either Titanium Backup or LG Backup.
@xdabbeb 's ROM includes call recording although any stock ROM (not sure about Cyanogenmod) can use Xposed and the G3TweakBox app to give that functionality too.
If you ever do go straight stock and get to the 35B update, once you take it the ONLY way so far of downgrading so you can reroot is the TOT method with a different, new .DLL than what is referenced in the TOT instructions.
You can get everything I referenced by using Google to search XDA such as:
Code:
XDA VS985 10B KDZ
[VK810.4G] [altev] [ViKtory810ROM] official LG G Pad 8.3 Lollipop 36B_00 5.0.2
[VK810.4G] [altev] official LG G Pad 8.3 Lollipop 36B_00 5.0.2 DEBLOAT SCRIPTS and copies of all the files they remove
[VK810.4G] [altev] OTAs, .IMGs and KDZs, oh my
roirraW "edor" ehT said:
Hi and welcome!
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- Thanks!
roirraW "edor" ehT said:
First, any used phone who knows what state they left the phone in so I would use LG Flash Tool 2014 with the 10B KDZ in Windows PC after having installed the Verizon LG drivers, which are different than the drivers for the other G3s, and then rebooted the PC.
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- Isn't that the truth?! The one that's on 10B is acting a bit funky.
I've got a laptop with a fresh install of Win7 sitting here just awaiting setup for the G3 specific drivers.
Did not want to mess around with one that has all sorts of drivers on it going back (4) years. From HTC to Samsung to HPTP items.
Also have a 'Nix with ADB installed, JIC I really mess up. Altough it seems like it's a quite a bit more straight forward than years past...
roirraW "edor" ehT said:
Look for the return to stock thread in the Verizon G3 General section. It might mention the TOT method too, I prefer the KDZ method because it's easier.
Then root with the Stump app, install TWRP v2.8.7.0 and flash the custom ROM you want.
I'm using @xdabbeb 's and my personal opinion is that it's awesome. Very, very debloated. Runs cooler, battery lasts even longer.
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- More thanks. I had not seen any mention of 'Stump' and also was unsure which version of 'TWRP' to use.
roirraW "edor" ehT said:
Be warned that on this phone sometimes when you reboot it will go to a black screen and not actually boot up.
Sometimes you can just hold the power button in for up a while (not sure on the count, maybe 30 seconds or so) and that will shut it off and it you held it long enough it will power back on, too.
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- And I hadn't seen any mention at all on this little 'feature'. That would have worried me big time if it happen(s)(ed).
Thanks again for the advice and recommendations, I owe you a brew.
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I'm gonna go grab a fresh cup of coffee and get to it.
_Dan
middle_road said:
- Thanks!
- Isn't that the truth?! The one that's on 10B is acting a bit funky.
I've got a laptop with a fresh install of Win7 sitting here just awaiting setup for the G3 specific drivers.
Did not want to mess around with one that has all sorts of drivers on it going back (4) years. From HTC to Samsung to HPTP items.
Also have a 'Nix with ADB installed, JIC I really mess up. Altough it seems like it's a quite a bit more straight forward than years past...
- More thanks. I had not seen any mention of 'Stump' and also was unsure which version of 'TWRP' to use.
- And I hadn't seen any mention at all on this little 'feature'. That would have worried me big time if it happen(s)(ed).
Thanks again for the advice and recommendations, I owe you a brew.
I'm gonna go grab a fresh cup of coffee and get to it.
_Dan
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You're welcome! Stump only works pre-12B (from what I remember) so that's why I recommended the 10B KDZ. Also will warn you that although LG Flash Tool 2014 might display misleading dialogs such as "server not found" etc, whatever you do, do NOT bother touching those dialogs, selecting any buttons in them. Just move them out of your way and ignore them. 99% of the time despite these seemingly catastrophic errors, on the G3 within 10 minutes the device will have been flashed, and it will be obvious when it has.
Also note that flashing KDZs/TOTs erases your internal storage so save anything you want to keep from there.
On older LG G3 stock ROMs, you can use TWRP Manager or Flashify to flash the latest TWRP. You can't do that successfully with newer stock G3 ROMs - another reason I recommend a pre-Lollipop KDZ.
Boy that was easy -- on the 2nd phone. Nice and lean, looks very fine at first glance.
(6) hours later... Typical windows drivers problems, even on a fresh/clean laptop install. Of course it's been that way with
windoz for the last 20+ years that I've been dealing with it.
I've got a few questions, ( I did do some searching, however I'm beat and tired.)
- I couldn't get ADB to work on either 'Nix or Windows.
- GApps? is there one? I can't 'push' from the Play store on the PC to the handset. Should I just add the apps?
- The Better Half wanted me to ask if GPS is fully functional. (She's a tad concerned I'm flashing them...)
- That's more but my brain has turned to mush...
Thanks for all the guidance Warrior! Tis Appreciated.
_Dan
middle_road said:
Boy that was easy -- on the 2nd phone. Nice and lean, looks very fine at first glance.
(6) hours later... Typical windows drivers problems, even on a fresh/clean laptop install. Of course it's been that way with
windoz for the last 20+ years that I've been dealing with it.
I've got a few questions, ( I did do some searching, however I'm beat and tired.)
- I couldn't get ADB to work on either 'Nix or Windows.
- GApps? is there one? I can't 'push' from the Play store on the PC to the handset. Should I just add the apps?
- The Better Half wanted me to ask if GPS is fully functional. (She's a tad concerned I'm flashing them...)
- That's more but my brain has turned to mush...
Thanks for all the guidance Warrior! Tis Appreciated.
_Dan
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Do you have USB Debugging turned on, on the phone? Go to Settings/About device/Software and press the Build # string about 10 times reasonably quickly and that'll put the Developer options menu in the main Settings. From there turn on USB Debugging. The first time you try to access an Android device from a new operating system installation (possibly for different USB ports, too), a pop-up will appear on the screen asking for you to give either temporary or permanent authorization to the PC for adb access.
All stock OEM ROMs come with GApps, and you can't just flash a different/newer GApps over top of it, you just have to update the apps you want to from the Play Store. Personally, I remove all Google apps from the stock ROM's system except for the necessary Play Store, Play Services, and maybe also Google TTS. Since the apps are updated occasionally or frequently, depending on the app, I like to only keep one copy of them in user apps instead of having the system copy and then the updated version still reside in user apps.
You can tell the Play Store on the PC to install such-and-such app to such-and-such of your device in the drop down and it'll install, although I usually find that manually launching the Play Store app from the device gets it started installing faster after doing so.
GPS works great for me, and I use it often.
You're welcome!
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Another tip: Definitely make a backup of your IMEI on each phone, and keep a backup of your backup in a safe place! Sometimes flashing KDZs, TOTs and even ROMs has caused people with this phone to get their IMEI reset to all zeros. Hasn't happened to me in all my flashing over the past ten months, but it's happened to some others.
In TWRP there's an odd partition listed - I forget what it's called, just back up only that and keep a copy of that on your phone and on your wife's in a safe place like Google Drive, so you can restore them if you ever need to.
How to engage Debugging was one of the first things I searched on when the phones arrived -hehe.
Love how 'cryptic' it is now. Following your suggestions, I tried out 'Run as Administrator' and lo & behold
after a bunch of bleeps & booruuups, ADB showed a device attached. Gotta love Windoz...
'Nix laptop still isn't seeing though. Going to mess with that later.
Pushing from the Play store from a PC was only working on the Wife's early this morning before I packed it in.
Now trying mine it's working. That makes it easier to load apps.
IMEI Partition - is this the one you're talking about- The 'EFS' one? :-
Need to go and search on DPI settings now. The 'Home' row buttons are too small for my fat fingers.
You hit 50 and your fingers get mushy and touches aren't precise.
Also need to punch up the text a tad for the eyes. hehe.
Thanks, _Dan
middle_road said:
How to engage Debugging was one of the first things I searched on when the phones arrived -hehe.
Need to go and search on DPI settings now. The 'Home' row buttons are too small for my fat fingers.
You hit 50 and your fingers get mushy and touches aren't precise.
Also need to punch up the text a tad for the eyes. hehe.
Thanks, _Dan
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Yes! EFS, exactly. texdroider is what I used to change DPI recently. 640 is stock.
You may or may not have not seen you can change the font size in the Display settings.
Almost "fity" myself.
Pretty snappy ROM thus far. I'm liking it and this G3. I actually like where the power and vol buttons are. Doesn't mess anything up when
pulling it out of your pocket.
Grabbed Texdroider but haven't played with it yet.
Got a feeling I'm going to have to mess around with framework a bit or find a mod. Need some things to be more visible w/o glasses.
Figured if I do I'll call it 'Old Goats GUI'. Fat thumbs and aged eyesight.
Google trashed my contacts. Tons of entries from where I used email to send txts. That's going to take a while to clean up.
It is nice though have a clean slate. It's just like wiping your computer and starting fresh.
(Of course there is always a great deal of pain that goes with that.)
A friend called today and she just got a G4 and is getting rid of her G2, and it's got the touchscreen problem.
Hopefully it's just a software fix and I'll have another phone to add to the stable.
They didn't transfer all her stuff so I'll be taking that on this weekend. gives me a chance to get my hands dirty with all three models.
Thanks again, _Dan
Have fun! You're welcome. Changing the DPI, and that font size setting should solve most of any issue you have. I use Nova Launcher Prime which is highly configurable - if you don't use a custom launcher you might want to look into it. You can make everything whatever size you want. Icons, text, how many icons fit on the screen in both portrait and landscape, etc.
Oh, oh. Having problems this afternoon. (should I maybe post this in the ROM forum?)
We're at home today and the phones are dropping off network. They're talking to us saying 'No Carrier'...
I just noticed (using Signal Check Pro) that there is no EV-DO. and watching the phone the last several minutes
it is not shifting into 3G. Usually with the RAZR M's previously, they would drop to 3G depending on where one
was at in the house or out in the yard. I don't see 3G at all on the G3.
Did I mess something up flashing? Figures doesn't it? - (2) days after flashing the devil out of them....
And of course I'm waiting on a very important phone call today...
Thanks,
_Dan
I doubt if you messed anything up in flashing otherwise the ROM wouldn't have worked. Maybe Verizon has an issue in your area.
[VK810.4G] [altev] [ViKtory810ROM] official LG G Pad 8.3 Lollipop 36B_00 5.0.2
[VK810.4G] [altev] official LG G Pad 8.3 Lollipop 36B_00 5.0.2 DEBLOAT SCRIPTS and copies of all the files they remove
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Gave Tech Support a call last evening, and all they could (or would) say was that there were problems in TN.
Usually they are a bit more specific. Then again I only called them twice over the last few years.
And of course this had to happen two days after I switched our plan to pre-paid and went to two different phones and
flashed a non-OEM ROM and was waiting on a call.
It was only happening on my phone - the wife's didn't do it. I did notice that it finally showed 3G when I was on the backside
of the house, so I'm hoping it's just tower issues.
I'm going to go dink around with Nova Launcher and Texdroider now and wait for the cases to arrive in the mail today...
middle_road said:
Gave Tech Support a call last evening, and all they could (or would) say was that there were problems in TN.
Usually they are a bit more specific. Then again I only called them twice over the last few years.
And of course this had to happen two days after I switched our plan to pre-paid and went to two different phones and
flashed a non-OEM ROM and was waiting on a call.
It was only happening on my phone - the wife's didn't do it. I did notice that it finally showed 3G when I was on the backside
of the house, so I'm hoping it's just tower issues.
I'm going to go dink around with Nova Launcher and Texdroider now and wait for the cases to arrive in the mail today...
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When my wife and I were on Sprint with two Galaxy S3's, I noticed we would both get different signal/data strength in different areas, including our home. I had gone to a Sprint store where they said that was expected, that two of the same phones in the same place might favor different towers, or something like that. They said were able to change some technical setting in the phone that would hopefully give me a better or at least different tower when I was at home. From what I recall it did definitely make a noticeable difference.
Only mention it as a demonstration that it can be normal to get different service on two of the same phone and ROM at the same location.
That was the first and only time I had pursued a fix of that kind so no idea what Verizon is willing to do or capable of doing. Normally I don't expect much from the carrier stores, technically speaking.
roirraW "edor" ehT said:
When my wife and I were on Sprint with two Galaxy S3's, I noticed we would both get different signal/data strength in different areas, including our home. I had gone to a Sprint store where they said that was expected, that two of the same phones in the same place might favor different towers, or something like that. They said were able to change some technical setting in the phone that would hopefully give me a better or at least different tower when I was at home. From what I recall it did definitely make a noticeable difference.
Only mention it as a demonstration that it can be normal to get different service on two of the same phone and ROM at the same location.
That was the first and only time I had pursued a fix of that kind so no idea what Verizon is willing to do or capable of doing. Normally I don't expect much from the carrier stores, technically speaking.
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OUI! The S3 with the great antenna design....
A good tech is hard to find. Even more rare are the knowledgeable ones.
(10) years ago I had contacts with engineers at Sprint, US Cell & Verizon. Wish that I had maintained them or that two of them had stayed... hehe.
I've determined that the towers around us appear to be leased as far as I can tell.
USCC, Sprint & Verizon are hanging their birds off of them and I'm getting the impression that maintenance it minimal.
I left USCC two years ago because on the tower closest to us the bird was pointing downwards and the signal likewise.
Over two years now and it still hasn't been re-positioned.
I was at home all day and didn't hear the phone say 'No Carrier' so hopefully it was an infrastructure problem.
I was just nervous with the timing and all.
Better Half was out all day and no problems and actually came home with 90% on her battery.
I'm liking that!
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I was at home all day and didn't hear the phone say 'No Carrier' so hopefully it was an infrastructure problem.
I was just nervous with the timing and all.
Better Half was out all day and no problems and actually came home with 90% on her battery.
I'm liking that!
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Hopefully you don't get a scare like that again soon. I plan on putting that ROM on my wife's phone sooner or later, too.
Rainy day here so I'm finally attempting to try Nova Launcher and Texdroider.
Backup first - as recommended. Battery was @80%, TWRP finished up and rebooted the system and when
it came back up battery was @60%. A backup operation lasting a few minutes wouldn't use up 20% - would it?
(oh and yeah, I did have on my glasses )
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Rainy day here so I'm finally attempting to try Nova Launcher and Texdroider.
Backup first - as recommended. Battery was %, TWRP finished up and rebooted the system and when
it came back up battery was @60%. A backup operation lasting a few minutes wouldn't use up 20% - would it?
(oh and yeah, I did have on my glasses )
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I wouldn't expect it to and I don't recall recent backups biting that much out of the battery. Did you backup to internal storage or external? I'm about to do another backup before performing a modification so I'll see what happens for me today.
Texdroider was just what was needed for my ol' eyes. Much better. It came up showing 541 DPI, I took it to 480 first try
just for grins. Boy that messes up the icons. Set it to 640 after that and I can actually see items without glasses on.
Thanks for that suggestion!
Two odd things still going on with the handsets. Just sitting here with it on the desk she'll tell me 'Lost of Service'.
Check the phone and Signal Pro is saying it's fine.
On the Wife's - her's is going into Roaming mode around the house, same vicinity as mine.
I own a Xperia Z2 D6502 with android 5.1.1 and build number 23.4.A.1.232 which I would like to root. I have never rooted any of my phones before so I dont know anything about it. After spending much time on this forum I found this link but I am not sure if these are the right instructions for my xperia Z2 5.1.1 23.4.A.1.232.
What I understood after reading this article was that after following these instructions I would have a rooted lollipop 5.1.1 version on my phone. However I dont want this. I want any suitable(which makes my phone faster and doesnt affect camera quality) rom(I dont know much about them either) with KitKat on my xperia device.
Can anyone please help me to achieve the above with all the detailed steps as I am totally new to this?
Any help will be highly appreciated.
Follow that guide but in step 3 (Then flash the latest*23.4.A.0.546*zip file, which is pre rooted) flash your kitkat rom or whatever you want. Look in the dev section.
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Follow that guide but in step 3 (Then flash the latest*23.4.A.0.546*zip file, which is pre rooted) flash your kitkat rom or whatever you want. Look in the dev section.
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Thank You so much. Can you please suggest me a ROM? And provide a download link?
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Thank You so much. Can you please suggest me a ROM? And provide a download link?
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Which ROM you'll prefer is a personal thing, so read about the different ones, look at any pictures and try one. While looking and researching them you'll find the download links.
Having said that I'm just running a rooted version of the Sony 5.1.1 ROM, version 23.4.A.1.232 and quite like it. Sure it has a heap of apps I don't use but I'm not out of space and everything works.
I've got a few different devices with different builds of AOSP based ROMs on them, it varies as the developers for different devices vary so you end up using what's available for your device.
Given you've never rooted your phone before I'm not sure all of the advanced options of some of the ROMs will do much for you, you can spend hours and hours setting things up how you want and then another update turns up and they don't all handle dirty flashes well.
Why do you want root access and what are you expecting it to do for you?
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Which ROM you'll prefer is a personal thing, so read about the different ones, look at any pictures and try one. While looking and researching them you'll find the download links.
Having said that I'm just running a rooted version of the Sony 5.1.1 ROM, version 23.4.A.1.232 and quite like it. Sure it has a heap of apps I don't use but I'm not out of space and everything works.
I've got a few different devices with different builds of AOSP based ROMs on them, it varies as the developers for different devices vary so you end up using what's available for your device.
Given you've never rooted your phone before I'm not sure all of the advanced options of some of the ROMs will do much for you, you can spend hours and hours setting things up how you want and then another update turns up and they don't all handle dirty flashes well.
Why do you want root access and what are you expecting it to do for you?
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I just want to explore and learn things. Some problems I face with xperia Z2 are wifi connectivity, my voice isnt clear to other side while on call, low battery life and runs slow given its hardware specifications.
Cant you unistall the apps which occupy your memory given your device is rooted?
And what if I dont update my device?
I also read about losing my drm keys after flashing, though I didnt understand completely what it meant.
I want to install rooted version of Sony 4.4.4 rom but after searching the forum I cant decide which one I should download. Please help.
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Which ROM you'll prefer is a personal thing, so read about the different ones, look at any pictures and try one. While looking and researching them you'll find the download links.
Having said that I'm just running a rooted version of the Sony 5.1.1 ROM, version 23.4.A.1.232 and quite like it. Sure it has a heap of apps I don't use but I'm not out of space and everything works.
I've got a few different devices with different builds of AOSP based ROMs on them, it varies as the developers for different devices vary so you end up using what's available for your device.
Given you've never rooted your phone before I'm not sure all of the advanced options of some of the ROMs will do much for you, you can spend hours and hours setting things up how you want and then another update turns up and they don't all handle dirty flashes well.
Why do you want root access and what are you expecting it to do for you?
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Sorry to hijack the tread.... Did you have "full root"?
I think i'm having issues on SELinux or mounting permissions.
I can't remove system apps( w/ root uninstaller ), or change system files.
I manually changed selinux (su -c "setenforce 0"), solve it but was not persistent. Installed SELinuxmodechanger, but i think it's not fully working after reboot...
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Sorry to hijack the tread.... Did you have "full root"?
I think i'm having issues on SELinux or mounting permissions.
I can't remove system apps( w/ root uninstaller ), or change system files.
I manually changed selinux (su -c "setenforce 0"), solve it but was not persistent. Installed SELinuxmodechanger, but i think it's not fully working after reboot...
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Do you have nuts deul recovery installed? Thats meant to disable RIC during boot to make /system rw, allowing you to remove system apps.
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I just want to explore and learn things. Some problems I face with xperia Z2 are wifi connectivity, my voice isnt clear to other side while on call, low battery life and runs slow given its hardware specifications.
Cant you unistall the apps which occupy your memory given your device is rooted?
And what if I dont update my device?
I also read about losing my drm keys after flashing, though I didnt understand completely what it meant.
I want to install rooted version of Sony 4.4.4 rom but after searching the forum I cant decide which one I should download. Please help.
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Keep reading mate. If you lose the DRM keys you can't get them back without a backup, you can't use ones someone else backed up either.
I can uninstall some of the preinstalled apps if I want but as I haven't run out of space I haven't yet. I'm also interested in seeing what Sony does with them, some I'll not use and others I glance at.
Battery life is pretty impressive for me but it varies with how you use your device. I play Ingress and if I'm out playing I get five hours, that's with the screen on, GPS and data going. Not many phones can do that.
Calls are normally clear although I've noticed that if I'm lying on my bed talking it doesn't cope very well, I have to twist my head so the ear I'm using is away from the pillow. I assume it's because the noise cancelling microphone is on the top and gets confused/muffled as when I move my head it's great. I've had people comment on how clear I sound on this phone.
I've not had any trouble with WiFi and haven't felt the phone is slow. So how are you determining that your device is slow? What is it doing which makes you feel it is slow?
Not sure what you mean by not updating your device. If you mean not updating the ROM nothing really happens but as time passes there is a greater chance that apps will stop working, it depends on what you use and if the makers of them what a minimum Android version for them. Also if there are security flaws the longer you used an unpatched device the greater the chance that you'll get compromised. It is quite irritating that we're not fully patched for Stagefright yet.
As for the original question about how to root this ROM version, the short answer is, you can't. Well not yet that I've seen.
To root the phone you have to downgrade, gain root and then upgrade to what you want to run while keeping root. You found the guide already, follow it. If you don't understand or aren't confident about doing it I'd suggest not doing it. If it's your only device and primary phone is it worth breaking it and being without a phone?
If you want to learn about Android devices in general pick up a cheap device to play with and learn on, the Z2 is still quite expensive. You could probably pick up one with a broken screen pretty cheaply online, as long as you can read the screen you can play around and learn on it. Just plug a mouse in if the digitiser doesn't work.
I used a stock Samsung GS2 for years while reading about things, then I got a tablet and started playing with that as it was just inconvenient to me if I broke it, I still had a working phone.
@clawpt I'm not sure what you mean by "full root". I can uninstall things if I want though, perhaps Matt's reply will help you.
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Do you have nuts deul recovery installed? Thats meant to disable RIC during boot to make /system rw, allowing you to remove system apps.
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Yes. I'm using "Z2-lockeddualrecovery2.8.x-RELEASE.flashable.zip". I'm on unlocked bootloader, maybe i need to use the other variant (i'm on stock kernel, should not be a problem)?
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@clawpt I'm not sure what you mean by "full root". I can uninstall things if I want though, perhaps Matt's reply will help you.
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Meaning that you also have rw permissions.
I can't delete system apps, i can't modify/create a file at "/".
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I will try to back them up given they are still there because I already rooted my phone to pre rooted stock rom 5.1.1 as mentioned in the guide I found.
Calls are normally clear although I've noticed that if I'm lying on my bed talking it doesn't cope very well, I have to twist my head so the ear I'm using is away from the pillow. I assume it's because the noise cancelling microphone is on the top and gets confused/muffled as when I move my head it's great. I've had people comment on how clear I sound on this phone.
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Maybe I have hardware issues or network problems as people usually complain about my voice being not clear.
I've not had any trouble with WiFi and haven't felt the phone is slow. So how are you determining that your device is slow? What is it doing which makes you feel it is slow?
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Sometimes my device doesnt connect to saved wifi networks automatically, I have to connect it manually.
If I open too many tabs in my chrome browser, chrome crashes. Sometimes dialer also takes too much time to open.
Not sure what you mean by not updating your device. If you mean not updating the ROM nothing really happens but as time passes there is a greater chance that apps will stop working, it depends on what you use and if the makers of them what a minimum Android version for them. Also if there are security flaws the longer you used an unpatched device the greater the chance that you'll get compromised. It is quite irritating that we're not fully patched for Stagefright yet.
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I meant update that sony provides. After rooting my phone I am still getting updates from sony(I didnt expect them), so if I update using sony updates will my phone lose its root status(I mean will it still be rooted)?
As for the original question about how to root this ROM version, the short answer is, you can't. Well not yet that I've seen.
To root the phone you have to downgrade, gain root and then upgrade to what you want to run while keeping root. You found the guide already, follow it. If you don't understand or aren't confident about doing it I'd suggest not doing it. If it's your only device and primary phone is it worth breaking it and being without a phone?
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I wasnt much confident but still I proceeded with the steps mentioned in the guide and with a little help from google, I was fortunately able to root my device. Yes, its the only phone I have but I couldnt afford a new one and I waited too long for its warranty to expire.
Can you please provide me with a source to learn about general concepts involved in rooting like flashing, busybox, unlocking boot loader, etc. I am trying to google each thing individually, but i cant seem to find a place where I could learn things in a proper order, moving from basics to more advanced concepts.
Thank you so much for your help.
I would like you to clear one more thing for me, when I followed the guide, I first flashed my device with 17.1.2.A.0.314 ftf file and then installed flashable_D6502_23.4.A.0.546.zip from the recovery menu. So what is a ftf file and what is the difference between the two steps I followed. In my understanding, both basically did the same thing, i.e., installing a new rom. Is ftf file sony specific?
Thanks again.
@berbatov93 definitely back up the DRM keys before unlocking the boot loader, it was a fairly simple process from memory.
We need more information on the sound problem. Does it happen consistently? If it isn't consistent look for a common situation when you have the problem, like loud noises, high wind etc. Have you used the diagnostics tool to test the microphone? It's in Settings > About phone > Diagnostics.
Thinking about it a bit more, sometimes there seems to be a little pause for people to hear me. I'm not sure if it's phone or network based, I guess it could be phone related while it works out the background noise cancelling magic.
WiFi being slow to connect is a better description than, "my device is too slow."
Sometimes I notice that it hasn't automatically connected to my WiFi when I get home but by the time I notice and look it's connecting. Is that what you mean?
What setting do you have the WiFi on when the phone is asleep? Settings > WiFi > ... menu > Advanced > Keep Wi-Fi on during sleep.
Everything is slow with lots of Chrome tabs open, you could try a different browser or just be better at closing tabs.
I've never noticed any slow launching with the dialer, perhaps your call history is huge? Try backing it up with an app from the Play Store and then deleting it to see if that is the cause. Each time you open it it looks at that to display it.
As you're on a stock ROM it will notify you that there is a new update. If you let it update though you'll lose root and then have to downgrade again to get it back. I just wait for the update to be available through XperiFirm, download it and make a pre-rooted flashable zip. There is a thread about how to do that here. That thread will also answer your question about what you did which seemed like flashing two ROMs, you did but in different ways.
I still don't know enough so I can't answer your questions but it looks like your Google Fu is weak. :silly:
Try this link, it won't always be the top search result though.
There are lots of different summaries about what rooting does for you, I don't want to try and summarise them for you. (I'd rather go to bed, it's 4:30am for me!)
Just reading a description of one of the various Busybox installers on the Play Store should answer that question, I bought this one. I can't remember if a friend recommended it to me or something I read somewhere, but I bought it as I appreciated the effort the developer put in for the rest of us to use. The same with SuperSU Pro.
Bootloaders are trickier, probably something you'll get better answers by reading more or using Google. These days they seem to all be locked with a way of unlocking them from the device manufacturer which lets them record your IMEI or serial number. I assume they do this so if you send it back for a warranty claim they can see you've unlocked it and then charge you to fix something you've screwed up. I've never taken anything back so I don't know.
They're something I have to learn more about too but if you find out more before me please fill me in.
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Should I use this to take backup? And what kind of backup should I take to recover my device from bootloop? I wanted to install xposed on my device, but it was warned somewhere that sony devices might go into bootloop and that I should take a backup to restore my device. What kind of backup can help me recover my device from bootloop or soft brick?
We need more information on the sound problem. Does it happen consistently? If it isn't consistent look for a common situation when you have the problem, like loud noises, high wind etc. Have you used the diagnostics tool to test the microphone? It's in Settings > About phone > Diagnostics.
Thinking about it a bit more, sometimes there seems to be a little pause for people to hear me. I'm not sure if it's phone or network based, I guess it could be phone related while it works out the background noise cancelling magic.
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It happens most of the time, even when I am in a closed room with no background disturbances.
WiFi being slow to connect is a better description than, "my device is too slow."
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That was a wifi issue, it just didnt connect automatically, I had to do it manually even for saved networks.
Sometimes I notice that it hasn't automatically connected to my WiFi when I get home but by the time I notice and look it's connecting. Is that what you mean?
What setting do you have the WiFi on when the phone is asleep? Settings > WiFi > ... menu > Advanced > Keep Wi-Fi on during sleep.
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It just shows connecting but doesnt connect until select the network. Keep wifi on during sleep was enabled.
Everything is slow with lots of Chrome tabs open, you could try a different browser or just be better at closing tabs.
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Then maybe its a chrome issue.
As you're on a stock ROM it will notify you that there is a new update. If you let it update though you'll lose root and then have to downgrade again to get it back. I just wait for the update to be available through XperiFirm, download it and make a pre-rooted flashable zip. There is a thread about how to do that here. That thread will also answer your question about what you did which seemed like flashing two ROMs, you did but in different ways.
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I needed 4.4.4 pre rooted stock ROM for D6502 but cant seem to find it anywhere. I read the steps in the thread you mentioned about creating a pre rooted ROM, but steps are not explained in detail for someone new like me. I am also scared a little to try something new on my device as I am already facing a few problems. Can you provide me with a link with much more detailed steps?
I still don't know enough so I can't answer your questions but it looks like your Google Fu is weak. :silly:
Try this link, it won't always be the top search result though.
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I feel silly now.
Bootloaders are trickier, probably something you'll get better answers by reading more or using Google. These days they seem to all be locked with a way of unlocking them from the device manufacturer which lets them record your IMEI or serial number. I assume they do this so if you send it back for a warranty claim they can see you've unlocked it and then charge you to fix something you've screwed up. I've never taken anything back so I don't know.
They're something I have to learn more about too but if you find out more before me please fill me in.
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Will sony be able to fix my device in case I screwed up and bricked it?
Thanks.
@berbatov93 I'm sure Sony will fix it if you pay them too!
Hopefully it won't come to that though, they're pretty hard to brick because of the way they've set things up. Even if you soft brick it you can power it off, fire up the flash tool and then hold volume down and plug USB in, press flash and it'll put a base Sony ROM on for you. I've kept the D6503_17.1.A.2.55_Generic AU 1281-9715.ftf file on my PC for just that reason but I haven't had to reuse it yet.
I don't know of any other instructions for making your own pre-rooted zip file, it took me a fair bit of reading and looking at menu options to work it out the first time but it's pretty easy. You won't screw your phone up with it as it will fail before you get it to the phone if you do it incorrectly. As with most things in life you have to learn from experience, just follow the instructions with the programs open so you can refer back to them. You could try Google for better instructions, I'm not sure if anyone wrote something more newbie friendly.
As for the WiFi problem perhaps a different ROM version will sort it out, also you might want to get all your data off your phone and do a completely fresh install on it and see if that sorts it out. The backups people talk about as Nandroids are done from in the custom recovery, have a look in there now you've got it working again. I'm not going to reply to the other thread as I see you did it all again.
I doubt there are any pre-rooted 4.4.4 still around as most people have moved on. There's probably no need to make a pre-rooted one though, one of the root exploits works on it so you could just download, via XperiFirm, the 4.4.4 you want and flash it, then root it. I've never downloaded a pre-rooted ROM as I'm overly cautious, I'm not even keen on using the one click root programs as I can't read what they're doing!
You could call it a Chrome problem but I'd really call it a user problem. Like I said originally you could try another browser and see if it copes better but they aren't really designed to have lots of tabs open. Each tab takes up memory, so you'll fill it all up and then it will start using virtual memory but eventually it will crash. It happens on desktop computers too, I've got 8GB of RAM in my PC but Chrome eats it all up if I open too many tabs.
I don't know what to do about your mic problems in call, I'd take it back to where you got it from and see what they say. But I'm pretty sure you've waited too long as you indicated it was out of warranty which is why you've started looking at root options now. If you've been having problems for a while you should have taken it back before you lost that. It's still worth asking the store/phone company about it though, just make sure they don't go charging you anything to fix it without asking you about it.
You might just have to chalk it up to experience and live with it. Never be afraid to ask for things to be looked at while the warranty is valid, it might be inconvenient but if something needs fixing it's better to use the warranty than pay for it.
The other option would be to use a headset for calls, I picked up an SBH52 and I'm pretty happy with it. As long as you don't lose or break it it will work with whatever phone you end up replacing your Z2 with.
Just a generic question on how much time and what model you going to next. It appears with the stock ROMS on Verizon, most devs have moved on. The HTC 10 Verizon has Sunshine now at least, don't know jack about a new Nexus model. Just curious as what you guys are moving to. Thanks
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Just a generic question on how much time and what model you going to next. It appears with the stock ROMS on Verizon, most devs have moved on. The HTC 10 Verizon has Sunshine now at least, don't know jack about a new Nexus model. Just curious as what you guys are moving to. Thanks
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At this time, I'm sticking with the G3 unless there is a reason to upgrade. I've had the phone for 18 months now and I must say, it has been the absolute best phone I've ever had. Currently, I'm running stock, unrooted Marshmallow and it runs great for me. I haven't needed a reason to root. Root was mainly for Titanium Backup, but the LG Backup tool does just what I need if I ever need to reset the phone or want to try a new ROM.
Greenify runs as well, albeit not automatically, but I made it so that I can just press and hold the "home" button and it launches Greenify before locking the screen and shutting the screen off. Battery life is excellent for me. I can get through the day without having to charge (unless I decide it's time to play a game and then, all bets are off but that's going to be the same for just about any phone).
However, my oldest daughter just upgraded from her iPhone 5s to a Samsung Galaxy S7 and she is absolutely satisfied with it. She became tired of Apple and how difficult it was to copy music, files, etc back and forth without having to use iTunes. Battery life for her is excellent as well and she loves the fact that she can add an SD card to it to store pictures and music. She has a 64gb card in it.
So, if I were to upgrade, I would probably look at the S7 (non-edge) or maybe the LG G5. But, as I said, my phone still runs as good as it did when I first got it in December of 2014, so I have no reason to upgrade.
What would really force me to upgrade eventually would be if another major exploit was found for the version of Marshmallow that won't get patched by LG/Verizon. Then, I would probably upgrade.
Hello folks, my LG V20 from verizon has been screen damaged a lot and this time, I decided to buy from ebay at a fraction of price. This question is not specifically for LG V20 but I just decided to put here since this is the phone I purchased. It arrived and looks nice and I dont need all the bells and whistles that came with original carrier however there is a concern whether the phone's software or hardware has been tampered with. I know it requires a specialized a deep knowledge and extremely unlikely that ebay buyers would do these but I'd take no chances whether there is a slim. That is because, understandably, all your personal information, or simply put, all your lifes including passwords, financial information and almost everything account you can think of can be accessed throug your phone. Has there been any proven or unproven instances of hacking through phone sold on ebay in the past?
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Hello folks, my LG V20 from verizon has been screen damaged a lot and this time, I decided to buy from ebay at a fraction of price. This question is not specifically for LG V20 but I just decided to put here since this is the phone I purchased. It arrived and looks nice and I dont need all the bells and whistles that came with original carrier however there is a concern whether the phone's software or hardware has been tampered with. I know it requires a specialized a deep knowledge and extremely unlikely that ebay buyers would do these but I'd take no chances whether there is a slim. That is because, understandably, all your personal information, or simply put, all your lifes including passwords, financial information and almost everything account you can think of can be accessed throug your phone. Has there been any proven or unproven instances of hacking through phone sold on ebay in the past?
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To answer your question, yes. If the phone has been rooted and the data was reformatted ex. Twrp and, wipe system, data, and both caches then all data should be gone.
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Looks like i need to do some homework. I used to do some light hacking activity I.e. burning custom rom etc when i had Samsung, but that was long ago. It appears to be unlocked for any carrier and i just installed SIM and did couple of OTA update from Verizon. I am not sure if I should get started by whether it is rooted and any custom rom installed. It looks perfectly ok but certainly feels sluggish than brand new phone out of box from carrier.
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Looks like i need to do some homework. I used to do some light hacking activity I.e. burning custom rom etc when i had Samsung, but that was long ago. It appears to be unlocked for any carrier and i just installed SIM and did couple of OTA update from Verizon. I am not sure if I should get started by whether it is rooted and any custom rom installed. It looks perfectly ok but certainly feels sluggish than brand new phone out of box from carrier.
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I can unrooted custom and back to stock rom. So, its beter to flash again rooted or stock rom.
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I can unrooted custom and back to stock rom. So, its beter to flash again rooted or stock rom.
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i95swervin has posted today that he will upload a rom for your phone tomorrow. I'm running the alpha rom on the H918 V20, 1.0.7 release and, it's been stable and smooth. I tweaked the kernel alittle and, made it exactly the my liking, check out this thread when you get a chance https://forum.xda-developers.com/v2...ega-rom-oreo-vs995-h910-ls997-t3847510/page37
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I can unrooted custom and back to stock rom. So, its beter to flash again rooted or stock rom.
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what you mean??
If you suspect the rom has been tampered, its better to reflashed the rom.
About as much a chance as you have at being struck by lightning and getting super powers.
If you want to concern yourself with the what if nefarious black hat did this you should not buy used. But a factroy reset and or twrp reset will blow out any cobwebs they could put on it.
In theory about the only thing they can do is report it stolen on you since your phone is not tied to your carrier your sim is. So unlike the phones of yesterday where they had no sim and the phone had it built in they would need your sim to clone your phone.
I bought from ebay too. At first there was a little bit of a white line 2cms up and 2cms down the display mostly unvisible. This sounds weird but when I unlocked the bootloader with dirty santa it appeared as a full black line then it came back to normal. 2 weeks later it comes and goes but now it seems this black line is permanent, it would only be white if the background is black.
The seller has extremely positive reviews btw and it was brand new with warranty. Inside the phone everything seems fine. But I'd charge the phone and it would stay at a 100% for an hour sometimes before dropping to 99%
Hi,
I, like many others, got forced onto Android 11. I have a lot of problems with it. With or without root. The most annoying of which is the wifi aggressively dropping/changing. Bluetooth failures. Volume drops that don't return to normal, forcing a reboot to fix. Clock and background/screen saver problems. System UI crashing. Keyboard freezing and lagging on certain sites with textareas. I used my phone without root for a couple days after the forced upgrade and all of these issues were present with or without magisk modules.
I'm interested in going back to Android 10 and blocking the a11 OTA in Hosts.
I'd like to get some help with a couple things. I'd like to make a FULL flashable backup of my current device as is. Just in case I mess something up, I can get back to this current state as worst case, very easily. Do I use the MSM tool and copy something? Do I boot twrp and push something over? Please advise the safe and smart way to get right back to a 1:1 of current install. I want to be very sure about this part.
After I know which way I can safely get back to current state, can I use the MSM tool to wipe and flash an older build of Android 10? Or is it a problem after being on 11 because of some restrictions (partitions, RO, twrp no mount) somewhere?
If I can get back to an older build of Android 10, I have a couple options (grayhat and httpcanary) to monitor the traffic to see what we need to block in Hosts for sure.
I'm open to other suggestions also. Someone in the root thread said they proactively tried to disable some services around update and it was still forced on them.
OnePlus 7T Pro 5G McLaren TMobile
Android 11.0.1.2HD61B
(Carrier unlocked, bootloader unlocked, magisk root)
Thanks for any help
Disable the T-mobile update app or ask them to disable it on their end, they can.
Backup all critical data by direct file transfer and verify... just in case.
There's no way to do a full nandroid backup, e.g. restoring things exactly back to how they are now. Best you can do is use the app Swift Backup to backup app data/settings along with Google's backup and OP's backup app.
As for OOS11, have you tried resetting back to stock (factory reset while running OOS11)? Chances are you just have some leftover things from OOS10 that didn't play well with the upgrade. So before you abandon OOS11, try that first (factory reset from stock recovery). Make sure you've copied any backups to your PC first. If the issues come back after restoring your backup from Swift Backup or from Google or OP, then you need to find out exactly what app(s) are causing issue or just start from scratch.
As for the MSM Tool, it will restore you back to OOS10 just fine on its own.
Lastly, the OTA updates are downloaded from https://android.googleapis.com
For example, the url for the latest OTA to go from latest version of OOS10 (10.0.43) to first version of OOS11 (11.0.1.2) was
https://android.googleapis.com/packages/ota-api/package/45ba72b0b2f7c643a09d2d0875459cd01b8db998.zip
I pulled that from the update log. So blocking
https://android.googleapis.com/packages/ota-api/*/
in AdBlock or other hosts file app should do the trick. It may still see an update available, but it will definitely continue to fail when trying to download it.
But try OOS11 clean (after a factory reset). I bet all your problems will go away. I have exact same phone, not a single issue on OOS11, bootloader unlocked, latest version of Magisk.
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There's no way to do a full nandroid backup, e.g. restoring things exactly back to how they are now. Best you can do is use the app Swift Backup to backup app data/settings along with Google's backup and OP's backup app.
As for OOS11, have you tried resetting back to stock (factory reset while running OOS11)? Chances are you just have some leftover things from OOS10 that didn't play well with the upgrade. So before you abandon OOS11, try that first (factory reset from stock recovery). Make sure you've copied any backups to your PC first. If the issues come back after restoring your backup from Swift Backup or from Google or OP, then you need to find out exactly what app(s) are causing issue or just start from scratch.
As for the MSM Tool, it will restore you back to OOS10 just fine on its own.
Lastly, the OTA updates are downloaded from https://android.googleapis.com
For example, the url for the latest OTA to go from latest version of OOS10 (10.0.43) to first version of OOS11 (11.0.1.2) was
https://android.googleapis.com/packages/ota-api/package/45ba72b0b2f7c643a09d2d0875459cd01b8db998.zip
I pulled that from the update log. So blocking
https://android.googleapis.com/packages/ota-api/*/
in AdBlock or other hosts file app should do the trick. It may still see an update available, but it will definitely continue to fail when trying to download it.
But try OOS11 clean (after a factory reset). I bet all your problems will go away. I have exact same phone, not a single issue on OOS11, bootloader unlocked, latest version of Magisk.
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Thanks so much for the detailed reply.
My main reason for rooting my phone is to have full speed tethering. If that worked, I would try a reset. Since it doesn't, it's a good excuse to go back to 10 on its own for me.
No simple method for a full nandroid backup is going to slow me down. I need to go thru my apps and make sure I don't forget about anything important for a reset or a downgrade.
Do you have any hypothesis on why they forced Android 11 so hard?
During the time I wrote this message, my wifi switched networks a half dozen times. When this first started after the force to a11, I thought it was strange because I wasn't rooted and any modules shouldn't have been affecting anything. They're only added props (for the tethering module anyway). I don't have the Qualcomm crash others are reporting but maybe something in the new settings are related and causing both problems, theirs and mine.
Do you have multiple APs within reach of your phone? I've tried to disable/enable different connection options in the wifi settings and handoff settings. Nothing seems to help. It wants to drop me off my AP to any closer AP, constantly. Which is particularly annoying because I'm constantly in ssh sessions and that closes them. I can avoid that somewhat by forgetting the other APs near me so it tries to stay connected to just one but I shouldn't have to do that. I never had an issue before the update. In fact, I was actually really happy with how stable Android 10 was for our device.
Appreciative said:
Thanks so much for the detailed reply.
My main reason for rooting my phone is to have full speed tethering. If that worked, I would try a reset. Since it doesn't, it's a good excuse to go back to 10 on its own for me.
No simple method for a full nandroid backup is going to slow me down. I need to go thru my apps and make sure I don't forget about anything important for a reset or a downgrade.
Do you have any hypothesis on why they forced Android 11 so hard?
During the time I wrote this message, my wifi switched networks a half dozen times. When this first started after the force to a11, I thought it was strange because I wasn't rooted and any modules shouldn't have been affecting anything. They're only added props (for the tethering module anyway). I don't have the Qualcomm crash others are reporting but maybe something in the new settings are related and causing both problems, theirs and mine.
Do you have multiple APs within reach of your phone? I've tried to disable/enable different connection options in the wifi settings and handoff settings. Nothing seems to help. It wants to drop me off my AP to any closer AP, constantly. Which is particularly annoying because I'm constantly in ssh sessions and that closes them. I can avoid that somewhat by forgetting the other APs near me so it tries to stay connected to just one but I shouldn't have to do that. I never had an issue before the update. In fact, I was actually really happy with how stable Android 10 was for our device.
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Honestly I can't help. OOS11 made my phone even better than it ever has been. No exaggeration. And not a single bug or even issue. They probably saw the same results on their test phones and pushed it really hard because they knew people had been waiting a very long time for it.
That's why I really think you have some trash left behind from your OOS10 install that made the upgrade to OOS11 go crazy. Once you get your backups done, please try a factory reset on OOS11 and don't restore any Google or other backups and just see if you have any issues. It could all be due simply to needing a "fresh install"
Edit: As for high speed tethering, is that accomplished with a Magisk module? If so, it probably needs the tiniest change in directory names/path to be compatible with OOS11, just like the boot and shutdown animation modules
Edit2: And yes, my phone can see at least 15 APs while at home. Never have any trouble connecting via 802.11ac on 2.4 or 5ghz at home, and never had any trouble with other random hotspots.
You've got some OOS10 settings/junk/leftovers interfering with OOS11. Not trying to sound like an idiot TMobile tech, but in this case you do need to factory reset and I bet all issues go away.
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Honestly I can't help. OOS11 made my phone even better than it ever has been. No exaggeration. And not a single bug or even issue. They probably saw the same results on their test phones and pushed it really hard because they knew people had been waiting a very long time for it.
That's why I really think you have some trash left behind from your OOS10 install that made the upgrade to OOS11 go crazy. Once you get your backups done, please try a factory reset on OOS11 and don't restore any Google or other backups and just see if you have any issues. It could all be due simply to needing a "fresh install"
Edit: As for high speed tethering, is that accomplished with a Magisk module? If so, it probably needs the tiniest change in directory names/path to be compatible with OOS11, just like the boot and shutdown animation modules
Edit2: And yes, my phone can see at least 15 APs while at home. Never have any trouble connecting via 802.11ac on 2.4 or 5ghz at home, and never had any trouble with other random hotspots.
You've got some OOS10 settings/junk/leftovers interfering with OOS11. Not trying to sound like an idiot TMobile tech, but in this case you do need to factory reset and I bet all issues go away.
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I believe you. I don't think you sound like the robot techs either. Yes, it can be accomplished with a magisk module. Which I first tried to edit like the animation modules. When that was unsuccessful, I did it manually by creating/editing props. The tethering provision and dun props. I even tried them in combination with another apn using only ipv4.
Some other phones report the module still working in Android 11 so I was hopeful it was just a path adjustment or that manual would work. It's still likely it could be done but I have to balance how long someone with more experience to bring a solution might take, with how long I can get by with this 600kbps throttle. I have kids and having internet (capable of YouTube, 600kbps doesn't cut it, especially on multiple devices) available for long car rides is really helpful after they're tired of playing Eye-Spy
Appreciative said:
I believe you. I don't think you sound like the robot techs either. Yes, it can be accomplished with a magisk module. Which I first tried to edit like the animation modules. When that was unsuccessful, I did it manually by creating/editing props. The tethering provision and dun props. I even tried them in combination with another apn using only ipv4.
Some other phones report the module still working in Android 11 so I was hopeful it was just a path adjustment or that manual would work. It's still likely it could be done but I have to balance how long someone with more experience to bring a solution might take, with how long I can get by with this 600kbps throttle. I have kids and having internet (capable of YouTube, 600kbps doesn't cut it, especially on multiple devices) available for long car rides is really helpful after they're tired of playing Eye-Spy
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Post the Magisk module for high-speed tethering and I'll take a look at it. It'll either be really simple to get it working on OOS11...or not lol.
All credit to the authors and yadda yadda.
There's another one floating around.
In this one, I changed it to be /product/ but didn't have success.
If you do have success on a11 with it, that'd be cool. I can find out if a reset will clear up these other issues I have or not
Hello everyone, I'm in a similar situation though I was wondering if it might be a different problem.
So I bought a 7TPro Mclaren off Ebay and for the last year, it's worked fine. the phone came factory unlocked, with zero issues connecting to Telus (my Canadian provider). Last month my phone force-updated itself to android 11, and nothing but bad things have happened since. screen frame-rate tanks randomly, apps are slow, battery's tanked, the works.
After resetting the cache 3 or 4 times and still having issues, I reset the phone to factory, stock settings, but the phone still performs poorly Maybe because I re-added all my apps and pictures via Oneplus backup? either way, I'm very fed up with how the phone has been especially the battery, so I've been looking into downgrading back to Android 10, but it seems that the Tmobile variant has trouble doing that (i.e. no simple menu option).
Should I try downgrading to Android 10 again and not bothering with a backup? I don't have too much to lose as of right now so I don't mind resetting it again, but if restoring all my pictures via backup is what's causing the issue I'm willing to do that. Should I make another Oneplus backup before I do this, or should I back up the data to my PC first? I find it very irritating that T-mobile forced this update so I will try and block the upgrade in my hosts but I'm worried that won't work because I don't plan to root my phone and block the hosts files.
Any tips or help would be appreciated!
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Hello everyone, I'm in a similar situation though I was wondering if it might be a different problem.
So I bought a 7TPro Mclaren off Ebay and for the last year, it's worked fine. the phone came factory unlocked, with zero issues connecting to Telus (my Canadian provider). Last month my phone force-updated itself to android 11, and nothing but bad things have happened since. screen frame-rate tanks randomly, apps are slow, battery's tanked, the works.
After resetting the cache 3 or 4 times and still having issues, I reset the phone to factory, stock settings, but the phone still performs poorly Maybe because I re-added all my apps and pictures via Oneplus backup? either way, I'm very fed up with how the phone has been especially the battery, so I've been looking into downgrading back to Android 10, but it seems that the Tmobile variant has trouble doing that (i.e. no simple menu option).
Should I try downgrading to Android 10 again and not bothering with a backup? I don't have too much to lose as of right now so I don't mind resetting it again, but if restoring all my pictures via backup is what's causing the issue I'm willing to do that. Should I make another Oneplus backup before I do this, or should I back up the data to my PC first? I find it very irritating that T-mobile forced this update so I will try and block the upgrade in my hosts but I'm worried that won't work because I don't plan to root my phone and block the hosts files.
Any tips or help would be appreciated!
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Sorry to hear that.
Do fresh installs for the apps.
Do direct file transfers to/from the PC for all other critical data. "Restore it all" apps can fail miserably and are hard to verify the data they supposedly stored.
11 is a mess but this might help... or not.
DhoomLard said:
Hello everyone, I'm in a similar situation though I was wondering if it might be a different problem.
So I bought a 7TPro Mclaren off Ebay and for the last year, it's worked fine. the phone came factory unlocked, with zero issues connecting to Telus (my Canadian provider). Last month my phone force-updated itself to android 11, and nothing but bad things have happened since. screen frame-rate tanks randomly, apps are slow, battery's tanked, the works.
After resetting the cache 3 or 4 times and still having issues, I reset the phone to factory, stock settings, but the phone still performs poorly Maybe because I re-added all my apps and pictures via Oneplus backup? either way, I'm very fed up with how the phone has been especially the battery, so I've been looking into downgrading back to Android 10, but it seems that the Tmobile variant has trouble doing that (i.e. no simple menu option).
Should I try downgrading to Android 10 again and not bothering with a backup? I don't have too much to lose as of right now so I don't mind resetting it again, but if restoring all my pictures via backup is what's causing the issue I'm willing to do that. Should I make another Oneplus backup before I do this, or should I back up the data to my PC first? I find it very irritating that T-mobile forced this update so I will try and block the upgrade in my hosts but I'm worried that won't work because I don't plan to root my phone and block the hosts files.
Any tips or help would be appreciated!
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Try another factory reset on OOS11 but don't restore any backups including Google app backups and see if problem still persists. Don't even bother logging in with your Google account at first. Just see if issues are fixed.
Morning b4 coffee rant:. I'm so tired of hearing this, TMobile/OnePlus didn't "force update" anyone's phones any more so than Google or any other manufacturer. This is my first OnePlus phone, probably will be the last because of all the serious quirks in rooting and just horrible software engineering by OnePlus and I want to throw it thru the window sometimes, but that's half from me screwing with it lol. Anyway, so I'm not OnePlus's biggest fan, but they didn't do crazy by releasing OOS11. That's how updates work...People had been (rightfully) been expecting it for a long time. And I don't have a single issue with it.
My battery life is much worse also. I blame it on the constant/aggressive wifi changes.
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Try another factory reset on OOS11 but don't restore any backups including Google app backups and see if problem still persists. Don't even bother logging in with your Google account at first. Just see if issues are fixed.
Morning b4 coffee rant:. I'm so tired of hearing this, TMobile/OnePlus didn't "force update" anyone's phones any more so than Google or any other manufacturer. This is my first OnePlus phone, probably will be the last because of all the serious quirks in rooting and just horrible software engineering by OnePlus and I want to throw it thru the window sometimes, but that's half from me screwing with it lol. Anyway, so I'm not OnePlus's biggest fan, but they didn't do crazy by releasing OOS11. That's how updates work...People had been (rightfully) been expecting it for a long time. And I don't have a single issue with it.
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They did force the update. There was no further postponement available. It's not cool that we have to jump thru hoops to take an OTA but the full version upgrade ignores root woes and forces itself to install. I don't mind jumping the hoops, so long as it's consistent.
I've never had this force update issue on any previous device. I've been able to ignore it indefinitely, and if rooted, need to do a manual intervention to take the OTA. I was in the middle of doing something when my phone shut down and installed a11.
This isn't my first OnePlus device. It is my first carrier tied/coupled OnePlus device. And will definitely be my last carrier coupled phone. I want to give OnePlus another chance. I had the 8 Pro and it was lackluster to say the least. I found a great medium with this device. It offered similar specs, 5G, good build quality at a reasonable price.
It may be true that other manufacturers force updates on some devices but it wasn't true for me with the Nexus or Pixel phones I had. Or my previous OnePlus device (5T/8P).
A lot of us are intentionally choosing OnePlus for the root and ubl friendliness with good specs.
I don't think anyone is saying A11 shouldn't be offered, it should be of course. It just shouldn't be forced and the safety net we thought we had to prevent that, was also swallowed up.
Give OnePlus another chance, this phone is not the typical OnePlus experience I've come to love. Or maybe this is the new OnePlus... I'm gonna give them another shot.
As a side note to this, my wife wanted the Samsung s21, coming from a OnePlus device. She is very disappointed with the s21 in just about every aspect other than the picture quality. Oppo and OnePlus are merging, I'm not even sure where to go after OnePlus
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My battery life is much worse also. I blame it on the constant/aggressive wifi changes.
They did force the update. There was no further postponement available. It's not cool that we have to jump thru hoops to take an OTA but the full version upgrade ignores root woes and forces itself to install. I don't mind jumping the hoops, so long as it's consistent.
I've never had this force update issue on any previous device. I've been able to ignore it indefinitely, and if rooted, need to do a manual intervention to take the OTA. I was in the middle of doing something when my phone shut down and installed a11.
This isn't my first OnePlus device. It is my first carrier tied/coupled OnePlus device. And will definitely be my last carrier coupled phone. I want to give OnePlus another chance. I had the 8 Pro and it was lackluster to say the least. I found a great medium with this device. It offered similar specs, 5G, good build quality at a reasonable price.
It may be true that other manufacturers force updates on some devices but it wasn't true for me with the Nexus or Pixel phones I had. Or my previous OnePlus device (5T/8P).
A lot of us are intentionally choosing OnePlus for the root and ubl friendliness with good specs.
I don't think anyone is saying A11 shouldn't be offered, it should be of course. It just shouldn't be forced and the safety net we thought we had to prevent that, was also swallowed up.
Give OnePlus another chance, this phone is not the typical OnePlus experience I've come to love. Or maybe this is the new OnePlus... I'm gonna give them another shot.
As a side note to this, my wife wanted the Samsung s21, coming from a OnePlus device. She is very disappointed with the s21 in just about every aspect other than the picture quality. Oppo and OnePlus are merging, I'm not even sure where to go after OnePlus
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You can block OTA a couple different ways. I've done it for over 5 years with AT&T, no root needed.
My 10+ is still running happily on Pie.
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A lot of us are intentionally choosing OnePlus for the root and ubl friendliness with good specs.
Oppo and OnePlus are merging, I'm not even sure where to go after OnePlus
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Xiaomi/Redmi/Poco meets the root and ubl friendliness. In some countries, they still have warranty coverage after unlock bootloader.
Good specs or not is vague between different phones.
Check XDA Xiaomi category and see the reply and thread count. It's to some point a sign of better price to the specs.
Use GSMarena to compare the spec.
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Give OnePlus another chance, this phone is not the typical OnePlus experience I've come to love. Or maybe this is the new OnePlus... I'm gonna give them another shot.
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Sadly, OnePlus hasn't been typical OnePlus in well over a year. Look how slow updates are now even for their latest non-carrier flagships beginning around 7T time (and can start to be seen as early as the 6T).
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As a side note to this, my wife wanted the Samsung s21, coming from a OnePlus device. She is very disappointed with the s21 in just about every aspect other than the picture quality. Oppo and OnePlus are merging, I'm not even sure where to go after OnePlus
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Oppo and OnePlus are merging, like you said, so won't they still continue producing flagship phones at a manic rate, like Samsung? At least Samsung has gotten much better with the speed of OTA updates, while OnePlus has tanked.
We're guaranteed Android 12 for our phones. Let's see how long it takes for us to get it, probably more than a year after I make this post. The 6T is still waiting for OOS11.
To be honest, receiving the 8 Pro was disappointing. I had the pixel 2xl and it's the only thing I've returned in a decade. I got the 5T for half the price and couldn't believe how amazing that phone was. It's still alive and crack free. I put it through a lot.
Getting the 8 Pro, I knew it was $1k but I expected a lot. I was disappointed. I liked it but not $1k-liked-it. And I realized then, that maybe OnePlus had already ended their founding principles. I was most disappointed that nothing about the 8P was pushing the envelope. The 5T was breaking the envelope and the 6 was doing big moves with giant storage and ufs3 speed. After that, partially because of how well the 5T was made, I didn't follow what they were doing. I didn't need to. Now we are at OP9 and you may be right that 'that oneplus' isn't here anymore.
I did look at some oppo devices. I knew that's the parent/sister company to OnePlus and would find similar features. It just worked out that the 7T Pro 5G dropped right after I got the 8P and I traded back.
I guess I got spoiled
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To be honest, receiving the 8 Pro was disappointing. I had the pixel 2xl and it's the only thing I've returned in a decade. I got the 5T for half the price and couldn't believe how amazing that phone was. It's still alive and crack free. I put it through a lot.
Getting the 8 Pro, I knew it was $1k but I expected a lot. I was disappointed. I liked it but not $1k-liked-it. And I realized then, that maybe OnePlus had already ended their founding principles. I was most disappointed that nothing about the 8P was pushing the envelope. The 5T was breaking the envelope and the 6 was doing big moves with giant storage and ufs3 speed. After that, partially because of how well the 5T was made, I didn't follow what they were doing. I didn't need to. Now we are at OP9 and you may be right that 'that oneplus' isn't here anymore.
I did look at some oppo devices. I knew that's the parent/sister company to OnePlus and would find similar features. It just worked out that the 7T Pro 5G dropped right after I got the 8P and I traded back.
I guess I got spoiled
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That's one reason I got this phone, OnePlus's prices are thru the roof. And no, I don't want any Nord crap. I want a flagship phone at a reasonable price. Got my 7T Pro 5G Mclaren for $500 brand new from eBay the day after the OP8/Pro launched. I just couldn't justify spending $1000 on a phone and I never will.