Note 3 vs. Motorola Moto X Pure - Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General

Just got the Motorola Moto X Pure. Anyone have any direct comparison questions for me before I sell the Note 3?
Questions like, "which is heavier", "which is louder", "which is brighter".
If you're not familiar with the Moto X Pure, it is AFAIK, the only current "superphone" capable of running on Verizon networks that has an unlocked bootloader so you can flash CyanogenMOD type ROM's and kernels.
It's 5.7" like the Note 3 and in the hand, it's also physically identical in size. $399 retail for the 16GB version.
Has MicroSD card and water resistance but no removable battery.

I'm planning on picking one of these up soon. How do you think they compare, just for basic everyday use? (specs are reasonable close, but I don't have any access to one)
Numbers of bars on both???

matthelm said:
I'm planning on picking one of these up soon. How do you think they compare, just for basic everyday use? (specs are reasonable close, but I don't have any access to one)
Numbers of bars on both???
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I've only had it for a bit over a day and am still setting things up in the AICP based ROM I installed. So not much user time yet.
Speed is not noticeably faster than any AOSP ROM's I ran on a T-Mobile Note 3.
Volume on the dual-speaker is WAAAY louder and deeper sounding than the Note 3's speaker.
I only have one SIM so I can't really compare the signal bars. But around town download speeds have so far been about the same.
WiFi is downloading twice as fast on the Moto X though.
The phone is easier to control with one hand. Not really sure why though, since both phones are identical in size. But I can now reach the status bar with my thumb without straining like I did on the Note 3.
Screen is just as bright in AOSP ROM's on the Moto X as it is in TouchWiz with auto-brightness enabled.
So when I'm outside under the sun, I can read text just as well. Though the Moto X looks better at an angle than the Note 3 does. Easier to read when angled than the Note 3 in the sun.
I'm very happy with the phone, mostly because of the louder speaker and ability to install any ROM or kernel I want.
Otherwise, the Note 3 is still one of the best damn phones out there.

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thinking of getting a note - have a few questions

currently have a sensation with tmobile. my wife has att service and an iphone. so i'm thinking of cancelling my tmobile service and adding a line to her att service and getting the note.
questions...
i've read the typical horror stories about att service. i live in seattle which is a big verizon/tmobile area. i know this isn't an LTE area but will i really regret moving from tmobile to att?
i've looked at the specs for the one x that's coming out... doesn't seem like it's worth waiting for over the note. i don't really keep up with what's coming out anymore. are there any other phones coming out in the next few months that are tempting you guys to move over to from the note?
for those you that have flashed a new rom... what are you guys running?
thanks
I'm sorry but HTC has a bad habit of releasing good looking phones riddled with problems. HTC titan, HTC inspire, HTC thunderbolt, HTC Droid incredible, are just a few to come to mind.
The HTC titan was released 3-4 months ago, and not the HTC titan 2 will be out next week.... The reason for this is a design flaw in the HTC titan. Instead of fixing the old phone, they will just release a new one....
STAY AWAY FROM HTC!
just my opinion..
I say give it a try as long as the monthly plan price isn't too much higher with AT&T. Coming from Sprint, I've been impressed with the data speeds, even on 3G. You also have a 30 day window to check out the phone, so you can always cancel before then.
As for other phones, I had the Evo 4g and Evo 3D prior...I liked both phones actually and I really liked the development community for them, which was huge. I'd say Samsung screens are much better at this point.
I saw it on drippler earlier today that if you're willing to root and flash they have hacked the note to use Tmobile freq
Sent from a rock on fire in the middle of the sea
I have a sensation and a note sitting in front of me.
As far as coverage, that really depends on the area. Here, ATT 4G (Not LTE) is seriously 8 to 10 times faster than t-mobile.
As to everything else, I think the note is a far better phone, and I like the Sensation. The only thing that will disappoint you is going back to Gingerbread, assuming you're running ICS on the Sensation. The Note needs ICS BADLY, it's an abortion that it doesn't have it yet.
Also, if you don't mind rooting/modding, you can actually use the note on T-Mobile as well. I just verified it with my T-Mobile Monthly 4G sim.
Once the one x is out and people see that it won't last 8 hours with medium/heavy use it wont be so popular..
only you can answer the tmobile/at&t coverage thing since that is different depending on where you live..you can hack the AT&T Note to work on tmobile so thats a bonus.
the only phone i see really appealing is the SGS3 but that doesnt have a 5.3 screen so probably have to wait for Note 2.
Coming Samsung Captivate and being using my sister's sensation on tmobile...I just got my note yesterday and it amazing...I dont know about your network, but the phone itself blows everything else out there...its sleek, so light, the screen resolution is effing awesome...i saw 35 and 36 mbps in my area on LTE...so thats a bonus...even H+ was 5-6 mbps all the time...whereas my sister's Sensation varies from less 1mbps to 4-5 mbps...
get the note. int or att version. either one rules... att coverage rocks in my area 30 miles east of dallas tx.. even out in the sticks where I live. att still pulls 3 to 5 d on hspa+.. on my int note. Im gonna stick with my int note til the note 2 comes out. I cant see going back to anything smaller or with crappy batt life..
Sqb said:
I saw it on drippler earlier today that if you're willing to root and flash they have hacked the note to use Tmobile freq
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rooting is no problem. i can do that. i just don't want to have to podge together a work around that half works in order to use it.
MSigler said:
I have a sensation and a note sitting in front of me.
As far as coverage, that really depends on the area. Here, ATT 4G (Not LTE) is seriously 8 to 10 times faster than t-mobile.
As to everything else, I think the note is a far better phone, and I like the Sensation. The only thing that will disappoint you is going back to Gingerbread, assuming you're running ICS on the Sensation. The Note needs ICS BADLY, it's an abortion that it doesn't have it yet.
Also, if you don't mind rooting/modding, you can actually use the note on T-Mobile as well. I just verified it with my T-Mobile Monthly 4G sim.
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i don't mind rooting. i just don't want a half implemented solution to get it to work. i'll have to go back and look at the thread(s) on here about the tmobile 4g fix. when you tested with your tmobile sim what kind of speeds did you get? did it actually indicate you had a 4g connection?
i was using ICS on my sensation but never found a rom i liked. i used virtuous for awhile but went back to gingerbread. so that won't be too big of a deal for me. but i do get what you're saying.
do you find that carrying the note is a problem? is it really too big?
At this point I would just wait for the HTC One X or that Galaxy S3.
Issues with my note:
>severe color banding in dark scenes for videos
>below average battery life (above average standby time)
>screen aspect ratio is bad. causes some apps to detect the phone as a tablet which ruins things like Google Music (which I use all the time)
>Not a krait SoC. This means it lags behind the international Note and the upcoming HTC One X (Krait w/ LTE) and the GS3 (exynos w/ LTE)
>the S Pen is not very accurate. It can definitely be fun. But it's also not something that should be taken seriously by any artist if it can't even be calibrated properly
>has the worst shutter lag for taking photos
I also think it's too big in general. Not by much. Not too much that I wouldn't use something of it's size, but now that I've owned a wide range of devices with different screen sizes, I feel that 4.5 - 4.8" is the sweet spot.
And remember...thats only his opinion. Not all of the NOTES have the issues he listed. Once you go Note, you'd say 4 inches a joke.
-On another NOTE, Samsung goes 5.3"
Maroon Mushroom said:
At this point I would just wait for the HTC One X or that Galaxy S3.
Issues with my note:
>severe color banding in dark scenes for videos
>below average battery life (above average standby time)
>screen aspect ratio is bad. causes some apps to detect the phone as a tablet which ruins things like Google Music (which I use all the time)
>Not a krait SoC. This means it lags behind the international Note and the upcoming HTC One X (Krait w/ LTE) and the GS3 (exynos w/ LTE)
>the S Pen is not very accurate. It can definitely be fun. But it's also not something that should be taken seriously by any artist if it can't even be calibrated properly
>has the worst shutter lag for taking photos
I also think it's too big in general. Not by much. Not too much that I wouldn't use something of it's size, but now that I've owned a wide range of devices with different screen sizes, I feel that 4.5 - 4.8" is the sweet spot.
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One X will not have MicroSD
Maroon Mushroom said:
At this point I would just wait for the HTC One X or that Galaxy S3.
Issues with my note:
>severe color banding in dark scenes for videos
>below average battery life (above average standby time)
>screen aspect ratio is bad. causes some apps to detect the phone as a tablet which ruins things like Google Music (which I use all the time)
>Not a krait SoC. This means it lags behind the international Note and the upcoming HTC One X (Krait w/ LTE) and the GS3 (exynos w/ LTE)
>the S Pen is not very accurate. It can definitely be fun. But it's also not something that should be taken seriously by any artist if it can't even be calibrated properly
>has the worst shutter lag for taking photos
I also think it's too big in general. Not by much. Not too much that I wouldn't use something of it's size, but now that I've owned a wide range of devices with different screen sizes, I feel that 4.5 - 4.8" is the sweet spot.
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>I haven't noticed any of the color banding effects on my Note.
>This phone also has the best battery life of any phone I have ever owned (iPhones, WP7.5, and Android devices).
>I actually enjoy a lot of the tablet editions of apps better. (Google Music, Netflix)
>The processor in this phone has never gotten in the way of me doing anything I wanted to do on the phone.
>S Pen is something I look at as a bonus to use occasionally as I am not an artist, so calibration is moot for me.
>Also don't take many photos, but I haven't noticed the shutter being crazy slow. Seems average. (The large screen on the Note makes taking photos on this better than any other phone I've owned).
Love the size of the screen. Its the main selling point of the phone for me. The high resolution 5.3 inch screen is perfect for watching the occasional YouTube video and reading up on my 200+ articles a day from Google Reader.
Everyone has their own opinion. Just didn't want to let Mushroom's scare you.
Sent from my Galaxy Note i717
Tmobile has like the worst connection ever
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HOX+ vs. Nexus 4

I know the HOX+ has more standard memory than the Nexus 4 (64 vs. 16GB).
Since I don't know that much about processors, could someone compare the two?
Also, is the camera on the HOX+ better, worse, or about the same compared to the N4?
Thanks.
JGKC9AYC said:
I know the HOX+ has more standard memory than the Nexus 4 (64 vs. 16GB).
Since I don't know that much about processors, could someone compare the two?
Also, is the camera on the HOX+ better, worse, or about the same compared to the N4?
Thanks.
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I do not have the N4. I actually got my HOX+ because the Nexus was outselling everywhere. From reading on the Internet the HTC is supposed to have a better camera. The Nexus has a better processor but it actually benchmarks worse than some phones. Google could've increased the performance since then but I have stopped following the Nexus 4 since I got my One X plus. I think it comes down to if you want stock Android or not. I prefer stock Android myself but couldn't get it due to availability issues so I got this phone. If you want stock Android and are going to get the one X I say get it because there is CM and AOKP.
Sent from my HTC One X+ using Tapatalk 2
Would you know if there's any difference physically as far as the HOX vs. HOX+ when it comes time to shop for cases?
I've got someone wanting to trade me their HOX+ for my N4.
I don't do alot of gaming, but I do take alot of pictures with my phone. I also like to tinker around with my phones with various ROMs.
I'm just wanting to make sure I make the right decision.
Thanks.
Same dimensions so cases are a perfect fit on either. Stick with international hox cases tho.
Sent from my HTC One X+ using xda premium
Does Otterbox make cases for the International version?
*Edit* Nevermind. They do.
I am curious, however, as to what the difference is.
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Does Otterbox make cases for the International version?
*Edit* Nevermind. They do.
I am curious, however, as to what the difference is.
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The HOX is slightly smaller
The HOXL and HOX+ have the same dimensions
Sent from my HTC One XL using Tapatalk 2
As you specify 3 things:
Camera,memory, and fact that you don't know about processor.
So..
Camera .I prefer HTC one x+ as is doing better picture but i'm not profesional.
Memory.HTC gives you 55GB and it enough as long as you not use as pendrive to store porns movies in massive quatities or as ftp server .
CPU. Both are monsters,so It doesn't matter,which one you chose.
Value for money -> Nexus 4 (but waiting time is ... bit long).
If money is not a problem,then i will suggest .. HTC one X+.
but I assumed that you care about cpu,camera and memory only.
btw. I'm not expert.It based on my experience with these devices( as i used HTC and i have access to Nexus 4 )
I had a Nexus4 for three weeks, and now I have Hox+
Hox+ is better in:
-Camera
-Little better audio, and louder.
-Better display
-Radio FM
-Its more durable phone. Too much glass in nexus4
Nexus4:
-Smooth, because pure android.
-Smooth
-Did I tell smooth?
I dont know if is only my problem, but Im having problems in Hox+ with launchers smooth.
Games are now Ok with Elite Kernel, but launchers Apex, and Nova.. dont go perfect, as were with Nexus4.
Value for money-> Nexus 4 no dude
Absolute quality-> little better Hox+, but I wants my launchers go smooth now!
I happened to have both in hand now...
I had my Nexus 4 first, I love almost every aspect of the phone. i.e.:
- 4.2.1 stock android experience, and ofcoz the potential much quicker upgrades of future android builds.
- fast, slick, smooth and loads of RAM (2GB on Nexus vs 1GB on HOX+)
- responsive touch screen and best keyboard I have experienced so far.
- multi-colours LED notification light (HOX+ only have green and red colour)
- handsomer, better looking than HOX+ (quite subject opinion though)
- On screen button gives more room to hold landscape (bezel below the display), this may sound very minor, but it really helps when you use camera app in landscape mode
- Faster 3G connection when comparing to HOX+ (42Mbps vs 21Mbps)
BUT, there are some compensation when comparing to HOX+
- Nexus 4 has really bad battery performance, though I need more time to compare this with the HOX+, but the Nexus 4 really failed to impress me in this aspect. Especial I just jump ship from Crapple's iPhone. (I do quite a lot of browsing and a little bit of game (2D game only!!), cannot survive a full day if I use the phone freely without thinking about the battery) This is also the reason why I get HOX+ and give it a try, hope it would do better in battery against the Nexus 4.
- HOX+ has a better camera then the Nexus, both hardware and software wise. Less noisy, quicker response time. (Having said that, I quite like the stock android camera app, just HTC has done even been job in creating the camera app)
- HOX+ feel much more solid and firmer in hand. The finishing of the HOX+ is better. Nexus 4 has impressive design, and built quality already, but the HOX+ just did it even better!
- HOX+ has a brighter and richer screen than the Nexus 4
- HOX+ 's built-in battery saver seems to work quite well and not compromising any data connection (3rd party battery saver on the Play Store for Nexus 4 usually turning off the data and re-enable in regular basis, I dont like that, i prefer instant sync)
Caveat:
- I do not use my phone as portable music player, so cannot give fair opinion.
- for the same reason, 16GB vs 64GB did not bother me at all
- I am comparing them right out of box, no rooting, no custom ROM etc.

Question for HTC ONE owners

I went with an S4 simply because the ONE wasn't in stock. I'm looking ot get either a Note 3 or ONE MAX. One has been out for sometime now, are you guys happy with it? Giving a chance, would you switch? How do you feel about the available ROMS? Reason I asked about the ROMS was because I took a look and didn't much activity compare to S4.
I am liking the HTC ONE MAX, looking at the ONE gives me an idea of what to expect as far as ROMS are concerns. I like supporting the little guy the ONE is a beautiful phone.
The One Max is rumored to be released with an S4 processor, the same one used in the Nexus 4- which is pretty lackluster for a device such as the Max. It opens the possibility of longer lasting battery but the Note 3 is coming with the Snapdragon S800 processor which is going to be an absolute beast of a processor. I love my One, it's my favorite phone I've ever used. It's extremely fast and I wouldn't trade up to either of the phones previously mentioned, but I'm not a fan of bigger phones anyways. If you are content with you S4 then I'd say the trade to the One isn't necessary, but if you aren't liking the S4, maybe the One is for you.
I'm making a jump to either a Note 3 or a MAX. I have a business and for me it makes sense.
F9zSlavik said:
I'm making a jump to either a Note 3 or a MAX. I have a business and for me it makes sense.
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Honestly coming from using the Nexus 4 for almost a year and coming to the One - the Nexus 4 is a way better all around device. The only better qualities the One possesses is the speakers, and the screen clarity. It lags way too much no matter what you do and the data speeds are far worse than those on the Nexus 4 - including LTE (on T-Mobile) I'd recommend the Note 3 for the reason of - the Note 2 has no lag whatsoever. Now this is my personal opinion. I haven't done much research on the One max but being as its a larger device than the One with a smaller processor, I'm guessing its gonna be disappointing. Also the battery life on the One is not any better than the Nexus 4 either
My Nexus 4 mysteriously cracked a few days ago in my pocket, so I went to local wireless store and picked up what was in stock - HTC One. My initial preference was either Nokia Lumia 1020, Sony Xperia Z, or HTC One.
I had nexus 4 since the day it was released and since I am a sort of perfectionist - I was not too happy. The first day I got 2 hairline scratches on it out of blue, chassis was creaking, usb port was wobbling and creaking, and also little buzzing noise in the speaker.
Now when I picked up HTC One - it is a different world. First impression was - WOW what an amazing device! Appears to be very solid and of premium quality. Battery life so far not bad, although I had a charging issue (and hopefully it went away). This phone apparently was discharged for some time.
I have it for two days now and its awesome. Slow Motion camera is sick!
I have cleaned the thread and will be watching this thread for a couple of days. Please stay on topic and refrain from being abusive to other members as theses are the rules of XDA.

LG G3 vs Nexus 5 vs... The Future?

Hey everyone. Some of you may have seen me before on various LG forums, like the Optimus G, and the G2 (I've definitely seen some of you guys before on the OG forums), and I have a question for you guys who own the Sprint G3. Are you guys happy with your device? Like ROM wise, battery life, the entire experience in general. As of today March 1st, I'm eligible for an upgrade, and I was thinking of getting the G3. But I've been ghosting around the forums to spot any rooting quirks and goofs, and I've seen some regarding data on custom ROMs and stuff, which I'm kinda on the fence about. I'm planning on keeping my N5 for the AOSP ROMs, but this phone has terrible battery life, compared to the G2 I've owned for two weeks before I permanently switched to the N5. I see there's a decent selection of AOSP ROMs available for the G3, but I'm not too worried about that because I have my Nexus.
Tl;Dr: are you guys happy with your G3, and do you think its worth the upgrade, or should I wait for new devices to come out?
Get on GSM if you can. This CDMA crap has an always be problematic. GSM phones get way more love than the stupid sprint cdma garbage. We have great stuff going on here. Yet still better support for GSM. Battery life is great and the phone rocks.
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As for me I am seriously contemplating getting a Nexus 6 just so I can get stock android without CDMA problems. All I want is stock. If I had the knowledge to make this phone what I want I would. I do not so I am at the will of others. No complaints though. So much great stuff has happened for this LS990.
As a previous owner of several G2's (Sprint variants) I'm happy that I now have a G3 finally (and yes it's the Sprint model). Having said that, I'm currently "stuck" at the moment because of a damaged digitizer but I'll be ordering a new display assembly here in short order hopefully.
Comparing the G3 vs the N5 directly it's pretty blatantly obvious that the G3 is vastly superior in most every respect that matters - I'm wondering if you meant to say the N6 instead because that would be more aligned in a comparison in terms of hardware:
- same resolution screens albeit LCD vs AMOLED, 5.5" vs 5.96" - the G3 "looks" sharper because of the much higher PPI at 538 vs 493 for the N6 - I have two friends that own an N6 at this time and the one thing I hear from them most often is they love the color saturation of the AMOLED panel but they wish it was LCD because in direct sunlight the AMOLED just washes out pretty severely, and I am the same way: I love AMOLED color representation but outside in daylight, forget it, the G3 wins without question (my opinion based on my own usage and experience, however)
- the N6 is technically more powerful with the Snapdragon 805 at 2.7 GHz vs the G3 with the 801 at 2.5 GHz but the difference is negligible in actual day to day performance
- 3GB of RAM in each device (given you have the 32GB model from Sprint) so that's a draw
- form factor isn't that different save for getting used to the G3 having the rear mounted controls, it takes a little getting used to but in the long run I've come to find it works fine for me after that "honeymoon" period
- pure stock Android on the N6 vs the very nicely themed G3 experience, this one is simply a personal preference and nothing more: I prefer the G3's UI actually; when I had my G2(s) over the past year I ran CloudyG3 on them (now properly renamed to CloudyG2, however) and loved it. I can see why people prefer the stock Android even in spite of them using some third party launcher like Nova or something else even so
- microSD slot for increased storage + the removable battery pushes the G3 into the lead for me, however - I'm not saying it's better automagically just because the hardware supports it, I'm saying that for me it's better because I prefer such aspects in my smartphones, those two things were lacking in the G2 and I'm happy that LG came around and added them because it makes the G3 nearly perfect to me (I wish it just had a 1920x1080 display, however)
- battery life is an important aspect as well and I'm confident that the G3 with Lollipop (since it's now available, even for the Sprint variant) should get improved battery life (there's that memory glitch with 5.0.1 but I'm sure it'll be addressed soon enough). Can't speak for the N5 or the N6 with respect to battery life but I'm pretty sure the G3 may give better results. GSMArena gave the N6 a 70 hour endurance rating and the G3 a 63 in the same test, so they're very similar overall depending on usage
Also realize that because of how the G3 is designed with the back-mounted buttons, the 5.5" display on it and the entire casing of the G3 takes up less space than the N6 does - the N6 is a very large device overall, a monster sized phone these days so that may play into your decision as well. There's a size comparison at: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBrbCB50wJ0 - pretty dramatic difference.
But these kinds of comparisons are a dime a dozen these days, you've probably done the research already anyway, iamterence, so none of this is really new. What you have to decide is only something you can decide, as the case may be:
Which device suits your needs and requirements best...
What I suggest to people is sit down for a few minutes and do a pros/cons list of the things you need and require a smartphone in today's world to do for you given your usage expectations, then find a device that most closely matches the pros while having the least cons. It takes a while to do it obviously but when you're done you should have a lock on which device will be your choice.
If it's the G3 vs the N5, I'll take the G3 anytime. If it's the G3 vs the N6, I'd still take the G3 because I just prefer what it offers - pure stock Android on a Nexus is a nice thing, but it's lacking to me in many respects.
Also, I do agree with what was said above about the CDMA vs GSM thing overall but the G2 and the G3 really don't have much issues with getting GSM functionality. I personally can't stand LTE for various reasons but that's another thread altogether, so for me using HSPA+ on these devices is better in my situation and gives me 35Mbps or better where I live in Las Vegas which is pretty much saturated by T-Mobile service (my carrier of choice). If your intention - as a Sprint customer - is to use the device with that carrier then that whole CDMA vs GSM thing is a moot point anyway. If, however, you hope to use the device with another provider based on AT&T or T-Mobile's networks aka GSM then understand that unlocking the domestic GSM usage for the G3 isn't that tough at all, really.
Again, do the list, find what you need and require then match it.
I'd say grab the G3 and run with it but, you're the one that has to make the final decision.
ps
KnockOn/KnockOff/KnockCode... once you start using it you will seriously wonder why every smartphone hasn't been doing this since day one.
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As a previous owner of several G2's (Sprint variants) I'm happy that I now have a G3 finally (and yes it's the Sprint model). Having said that, I'm currently "stuck" at the moment because of a damaged digitizer but I'll be ordering a new display assembly here in short order hopefully.
Comparing the G3 vs the N5 directly it's pretty blatantly obvious that the G3 is vastly superior in most every respect that matters - I'm wondering if you meant to say the N6 instead because that would be more aligned in a comparison in terms of hardware:
- same resolution screens albeit LCD vs AMOLED, 5.5" vs 5.96" - the G3 "looks" sharper because of the much higher PPI at 538 vs 493 for the N6 - I have two friends that own an N6 at this time and the one thing I hear from them most often is they love the color saturation of the AMOLED panel but they wish it was LCD because in direct sunlight the AMOLED just washes out pretty severely, and I am the same way: I love AMOLED color representation but outside in daylight, forget it, the G3 wins without question (my opinion based on my own usage and experience, however)
- the N6 is technically more powerful with the Snapdragon 805 at 2.7 GHz vs the G3 with the 801 at 2.5 GHz but the difference is negligible in actual day to day performance
- 3GB of RAM in each device (given you have the 32GB model from Sprint) so that's a draw
- form factor isn't that different save for getting used to the G3 having the rear mounted controls, it takes a little getting used to but in the long run I've come to find it works fine for me after that "honeymoon" period
- pure stock Android on the N6 vs the very nicely themed G3 experience, this one is simply a personal preference and nothing more: I prefer the G3's UI actually; when I had my G2(s) over the past year I ran CloudyG3 on them (now properly renamed to CloudyG2, however) and loved it. I can see why people prefer the stock Android even in spite of them using some third party launcher like Nova or something else even so
- microSD slot for increased storage + the removable battery pushes the G3 into the lead for me, however - I'm not saying it's better automagically just because the hardware supports it, I'm saying that for me it's better because I prefer such aspects in my smartphones, those two things were lacking in the G2 and I'm happy that LG came around and added them because it makes the G3 nearly perfect to me (I wish it just had a 1920x1080 display, however)
- battery life is an important aspect as well and I'm confident that the G3 with Lollipop (since it's now available, even for the Sprint variant) should get improved battery life (there's that memory glitch with 5.0.1 but I'm sure it'll be addressed soon enough). Can't speak for the N5 or the N6 with respect to battery life but I'm pretty sure the G3 may give better results. GSMArena gave the N6 a 70 hour endurance rating and the G3 a 63 in the same test, so they're very similar overall depending on usage
Also realize that because of how the G3 is designed with the back-mounted buttons, the 5.5" display on it and the entire casing of the G3 takes up less space than the N6 does - the N6 is a very large device overall, a monster sized phone these days so that may play into your decision as well. There's a size comparison at: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBrbCB50wJ0 - pretty dramatic difference.
But these kinds of comparisons are a dime a dozen these days, you've probably done the research already anyway, iamterence, so none of this is really new. What you have to decide is only something you can decide, as the case may be:
Which device suits your needs and requirements best...
What I suggest to people is sit down for a few minutes and do a pros/cons list of the things you need and require a smartphone in today's world to do for you given your usage expectations, then find a device that most closely matches the pros while having the least cons. It takes a while to do it obviously but when you're done you should have a lock on which device will be your choice.
If it's the G3 vs the N5, I'll take the G3 anytime. If it's the G3 vs the N6, I'd still take the G3 because I just prefer what it offers - pure stock Android on a Nexus is a nice thing, but it's lacking to me in many respects.
Also, I do agree with what was said above about the CDMA vs GSM thing overall but the G2 and the G3 really don't have much issues with getting GSM functionality. I personally can't stand LTE for various reasons but that's another thread altogether, so for me using HSPA+ on these devices is better in my situation and gives me 35Mbps or better where I live in Las Vegas which is pretty much saturated by T-Mobile service (my carrier of choice). If your intention - as a Sprint customer - is to use the device with that carrier then that whole CDMA vs GSM thing is a moot point anyway. If, however, you hope to use the device with another provider based on AT&T or T-Mobile's networks aka GSM then understand that unlocking the domestic GSM usage for the G3 isn't that tough at all, really.
Again, do the list, find what you need and require then match it.
I'd say grab the G3 and run with it but, you're the one that has to make the final decision.
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KnockOn/KnockOff/KnockCode... once you start using it you will seriously wonder why every smartphone hasn't been doing this since day one.
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You say that you're stick with Sprint because you have a damaged digitizer for your G3; is that because you flashed a ROM, or what? Because I remember back on the G2 forums, there was a VERY widespread screen damage problem that happened to a lot of people who flashed ROMs, and even to people who didn't. If that's a problem here as well, then I am instantly turned off, because that problem is just beyond stupid.
I know that GSM devices get mostly all the love as well, being stuck on CDMA myself for the past 3 years and counting. But the way I view it as: since I already have a Nexus device, with the G3, I'm actually gonna take the chance to appreciate stock debloated software, and maybe go AOSP if I'm feeling bored, but I plan on keeping my Nexus just in case I feel like going back to AOSP. But, to be completely honest though, AOSP gets a little boring after a while. See, I like minimal ROMs. I've flash a lot of ROMs on my device, but I always find myself coming back to near-vanilla ROMs, because I'm just not into all those features like that. Just give me a theme engine/RRO support, and maybe even a center clock mod, and I'm good to go.
Speaking of RRO, are there any ROMs here that support that yet? I really haven't looker, but Layers themes are AMAZING. I feel like they run more efficiently than the theme engine, but that can be a strictly placebo affect. If not, I know there's definitely theme engine, so I'm good either ways.
I'm actually kinda leaning towards the G3 myself now, and have been for a little while now. I guess I just needed something to solidify my decision. Really not into HTC phones, nor am I a big fan of Touchwiz, even with their clean slate revisiting. LG phones have never done me any wrong (Well, except for the G2 with it's screen problems), and we didn't get a 2nd gen Moto X, otherwise I'd hop on that in a heartbeat. The Nexus 6 is WAY too goddamn big for me, like way past my comfort zone. I travel across the country in a touring metal band, so something stupid would be bound to happen if I were to get that phone. I'd feel a lot more safer with that phone than with the goddamn whale that is the N6. But, like I said, I'd be getting the G3 to actually appreciate the stock LG software rather than trying to go nuts with AOSP.
If anything, if I don't like the G3, I'll just sell it for $250 or something.
No, I bought it with a cracked digitizer for $50 - the G3 itself is without any noticeable flaws and works great but the digitizer being cracked and non-functional leaves me with a device I can't use till I replace that (meaning the entire display assembly since the LCD and digitizer are fused; technically it's possible to separate them but I lack the expertise and the necessary hardware plus it's just not worth the hassles). The G2 issues in the past were an actual manufacturing defect on some particular devices, iirc, I could be wrong about that but it had something to do with specific LCD panels made by a specific manufacturer - it wasn't directly LG's fault, I mean, at least that's what I remember. There was an app you could run that would ID the exact panel in your G2 and then you'd know whether or not you might potentially have problems.
I've never ever heard of screen damage caused by ROM flashing - that just sounds a bit ridiculous, so perhaps there's just a misunderstanding of what those people were reporting. The one "issue" that the G3 suffered/suffers from is the fact that the super huge QHD resolution and scaling causing sharpness issues in some situations: either the onscreen image is too sharp or oversharp and loses clarity or it's not sharp enough and looks fuzzy. It's not a technical problem or a defect with the display, it's simple physics of the LCD being so high resolution at 2560x1440 and software/hardware scaling not being up to par - there are several fixes out that help alleviate the oversharpening but I can't speak for their effectiveness at this time till I can get this G3 of mine up and running again with the replacement display assembly.
Not sure what you're referring to with the "RRO" comment, and I'm not into themes at all personally. I typically use a black wallpaper on any device I own and keep everything 'stock' in terms of the UI itself which is why I said what I said about LG's stock UI on the G3 (and why I used it on the G2 with CloudyG3/G2). It's beautiful, incredibly functional, and fits the way I use the device better than "stock" Android ever could but again that's just me and my personal preference. I give LG big props and mad respect for it because it's gorgeous and gets the job done while being lean and mean while remaining snappy and responsive as well.
Aside from the Sprint bloatware (which can be disabled iirc, or removed entirely with root using Titanium Backup). I was using the G3 after I got it and my OTG cable with a mouse, actually. The damage to the digitizer was localized in most of the left and upper region - the bottom right quadrant was still functional but with the mouse plugged in the digitizer became irrelevant. No, I don't mean I was going to carry it around with a mouse, that would be ridiculous and stupid, I just mean that I got the G3 for that $50 knowing I'd be replacing the display assembly from the gitgo.
My mistake was that I decided to roll the firmware back to factory (ZV4) and in the process I didn't realize that LG has made some changes since the G2 release and they have this stupid "Mini OS" thing come up after a stock firmware flash - the only way to exit out of that Mini OS and into the normal firmware is to hold the Power button and tap a menu item onscreen which causes a popup to appear with an OK button - because the digitizer is/was damaged I wasn't able to press the OK button (it was like 1/16" of an inch inside the damaged area) so I was left with a truly dead G3 for all intents and purposes.
I tore it down yesterday and removed the display assembly and cleaned it all up so it's basically a fully functional G3 now waiting for a new display/digitizer which I hope to order here as soon as I can round up the funds, it'll be about $70-80 off eBay.
It's a damned nice smartphone, it really is. My own pros/cons list basically is like 99% pros for the G3 and just 1% con: I wish it had a 1920x1080 display on it because I have no use - I mean really, does anyone? - for such a high resolution on such a tiny display. I appreciate it, I do, but there's no legitimate purpose for such a resolution on such a small display: 1920x1080 would have been awesome enough, I would have been happy with it and had no issues but LG wanted to be the first to market with the QHD resolution and they made it happen with the G3.
Couldn't pass it up for $50...
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Hey everyone. Some of you may have seen me before on various LG forums, like the Optimus G, and the G2 (I've definitely seen some of you guys before on the OG forums), and I have a question for you guys who own the Sprint G3. Are you guys happy with your device? Like ROM wise, battery life, the entire experience in general. As of today March 1st, I'm eligible for an upgrade, and I was thinking of getting the G3. But I've been ghosting around the forums to spot any rooting quirks and goofs, and I've seen some regarding data on custom ROMs and stuff, which I'm kinda on the fence about. I'm planning on keeping my N5 for the AOSP ROMs, but this phone has terrible battery life, compared to the G2 I've owned for two weeks before I permanently switched to the N5. I see there's a decent selection of AOSP ROMs available for the G3, but I'm not too worried about that because I have my Nexus.
Tl;Dr: are you guys happy with your G3, and do you think its worth the upgrade, or should I wait for new devices to come out?
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I loved my OG and decided to go with this phone based off of my experience with that. I can honestly say I made the right choice. My normal routine with phones is to flash AOSP roms as soon as they are available, but with this phone, I've been pretty impressed with the custom stock roms and xposed. My battery life is great when I'm not using bluetooth, but one great thing is the charge time on this phone has greatly improved over the OG.
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I loved my OG and decided to go with this phone based off of my experience with that. I can honestly say I made the right choice. My normal routine with phones is to flash AOSP roms as soon as they are available, but with this phone, I've been pretty impressed with the custom stock roms and xposed. My battery life is great when I'm not using bluetooth, but one great thing is the charge time on this phone has greatly improved over the OG.
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Yeah, I'm definitely interested to see how stock debloated Lollipop runs on this phone. Its just weird hearing that the battery life is just "okay" considering that the G2 had amazing battery life. But I guess the G3 would be an improvement over the N5 anyways, this thing has horrid battery life. Think I'm gonna go to Best Buy tomorrow and snag a G3 for a dollar, instead of getting one from Sprint for $50.

[Q] Is Note II good to buy now ?

I'm about to get a new phone and I'd like it to be Note device because I like stylus and quality in one package which is rare. Note II is very cheap now after 2.5 years but I'm not sure will it last for next 2 years of rom changing and not so hardcore gaming ? I need your opinion about this and if you think this is not good idea please recommend me any other phone up to 300€.
P.S. I also thought of Ara as a second option. Is it worth waiting for and how much could it be ?
P.P.S. I saw Note III Neo so I wanted to know is it worth of those 100€ more than Note II and is there and will there be good roms for it ?
P.P.P.S. The phone I own now is S3 Mini GT-I8190(no N or L) and I own it since May 2013. It was a good phone and did the job very well but it starts to be buggy now. Even with slimest roms.
I've had a note 2 since start of 2014 (lost my S3, got this 2nd hand for $250 with an extra battery and external charger + 64gb sd). It's a fantastic phone imo. Unless you are drawing or using samsung software, there isn't very much use for the stylus (that I've found). I'd say use it stock for a while and see how often you use the stylus, then you could look at getting a Touchwiz based rom (like DN4) or an AOSP rom. I'm currently running lollipop on it and I prefer using this to my friend's S5's and HTC M8's. You get a good batterly life and decent size display. It isn't as bright as I'd ideally want it but I'm indoors most of the day so it doesn't make the biggest difference. Only fault I can put on it is the camera is a bit lacking, but that's comparing it to current flagship devices so take it with a grain of salt. Overall I'd say it's a great device, you might look at getting a Motorola G2 which is a bit cheaper and similar spec for camera/procesors just don't get removable battery, stylus and a bit smaller screen.
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I've had a note 2 since start of 2014 (lost my S3, got this 2nd hand for $250 with an extra battery and external charger + 64gb sd). It's a fantastic phone imo. Unless you are drawing or using samsung software, there isn't very much use for the stylus (that I've found). I'd say use it stock for a while and see how often you use the stylus, then you could look at getting a Touchwiz based rom (like DN4) or an AOSP rom. I'm currently running lollipop on it and I prefer using this to my friend's S5's and HTC M8's. You get a good batterly life and decent size display. It isn't as bright as I'd ideally want it but I'm indoors most of the day so it doesn't make the biggest difference. Only fault I can put on it is the camera is a bit lacking, but that's comparing it to current flagship devices so take it with a grain of salt. Overall I'd say it's a great device, you might look at getting a Motorola G2 which is a bit cheaper and similar spec for camera/procesors just don't get removable battery, stylus and a bit smaller screen.
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I can find the phone very cheap even new. I know there isn't much use for S Pen even on TouchWiz roms but it's something I like to use. I will use both TouchWiz and AOSP roms because I like to change look frequently. I just need confirmation that It is capable of running latest games (not uber games like San Andreas etc.) without lag. I don't need great battery life. I'm ok with 12 hours a day (not even that much) because I'm home all day. I need it to be fast, smooth and to be capable of changing rom every 20-30 days. Just should I take N7100 or N7105 ? I don't have 4G in my country.
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I can find the phone very cheap even new. I know there isn't much use for S Pen even on TouchWiz roms but it's something I like to use. I will use both TouchWiz and AOSP roms because I like to change look frequently. I just need confirmation that It is capable of running latest games (not uber games like San Andreas etc.) without lag. I don't need great battery life. I'm ok with 12 hours a day (not even that much) because I'm home all day. I need it to be fast, smooth and to be capable of changing rom every 20-30 days. Just should I take N7100 or N7105 ? I don't have 4G in my country.
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You don't need the LTE one imo. There's different roms available to the different models so check that out before you decide on one. Also, I don't know if it will be a good idea buying a phone that's already been superseded several times. The fast/smooth is a bit iffy, it's normally pretty good but especially with lollipop it hasn't been as smooth as when I was on kitkat but all the roms I've been using are posted as unstable. I haven't had issues with any games not running.
Note 2 is still a competent device.
LG G2 might be a better option. Higher res screen, newer hardware.
I wouldn't bother with the Note 3 Neo, but a Note 3 is definitely worthy of owning if you can find one for what you can afford.
The LG G Pro (and G Pro 2) are nice big phones, as is the Flex. No idea about availability/compatibility wherever it is you might be.
Don't forget the OnePlus One.
But if the stylus is what's most important to you, pick up a Note 3. The Note 2 is a good phone for the money, but it's not all that "future proof", whereas the Note 3 has a good year or three where its hardware will be considered unable to run apps and most games.

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