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i dropped my phone in the gym changing rooms today and i think that is the reason it won't charge any more ):
my beautiful HD2 is dead ):
i can't take it to T-Mobile because i have a custom ROM on it and it would void the warranty and they wouldn't fix it
and i can't put a standard ROM back on because you need to charge your phone over 50% battery!!!
all i simply ask is that someone near me could maybe lend me a battery or their own battery so i can have enough power to flash a standard ROM back on so i can take it to a T-Mobile shop and get this problem sorted out, it would really help alot.
it's been dead 10 mins and i am lost without it.
seriously, anyone from
cambusnethan > wishaw > north lanarkshire > lanarkshire > scotland
fancy helping me out?
dude, sorry to hear about the issue!
but you should know that the 50% battery requirement is only applicable if you are flashing via the usb cable while your device is in windows. however, you can still flash (via the usb cable or using the "sd card method") by placing your phone in "boot loader mode". this by passes the 50% battery check, so its worth a shot if you have enough battery, like say about 20%...i guess it would be a bit dangerous if your battery is below 10% because the flash might get interrupted if the battery runs out, further compounding your problem.
i personally recommend the "sd card method" for flashing a stock rom because this will revert BOTH your custom rom as well as your hardspl back to stock state in one go! and i believe that is exactly what you want!
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dude, sorry to hear about the issue!
but you should know that the 50% battery requirement is only applicable if you are flashing via the usb cable while your device is in windows. however, you can still flash (via the usb cable or using the "sd card method") by placing your phone in "boot loader mode". this by passes the 50% battery check, so its worth a shot if you have enough battery, like say about 20%...i guess it would be a bit dangerous if your battery is below 10% because the flash might get interrupted if the battery runs out, further compounding your problem.
i personally recommend the "sd card method" for flashing a stock rom because this will revert BOTH your custom rom as well as your hardspl back to stock state in one go! and i believe that is exactly what you want!
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thanks for replying,
yeah i read before flashing from sd card wipes hspl and i've done it before too but right now my main battery is dead and the spare (ebay knock off, hd2 fake battery) is sitting about 20% i think
not sure if i should put it in to risk it?
also, because its fake, it's got about 4/5ths the battery life of the real hd2 one :/
at 20% of a real battery you should be able to flash a half dozen times easy.
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at 20% of a real battery you should be able to flash a half dozen times easy.
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the main battery is dead, it's the spare cheap ebay one that still has about 20%
it drains faster than the normal one.
yea, what i meant was it should be good for at least 1 or two flashes. just dont let the phone sit in bootloader any longer than you have to, it seems to chew through power, being on teh bootloader screen. (i do all my flashing from bootloader, never really monitored it, just a feeling.)
if ur not in a rush just buy a battery charger that will charge externally and alternate between batteries. looks like there are some on ebay for under 10.00. just throwing out another option.
thanks for your reply, i would buy another spare battery or charger but i am broke.
i am a student, i'm not exaggerating but i couldn't afford to pay 10
i need a job so bad
YauMannn said:
thanks for your reply, i would buy another spare battery or charger but i am broke.
i am a student, i'm not exaggerating but i couldn't afford to pay 10
i need a job so bad
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You're a student, you're broke and yet you afford a 400-500GBP device...
Anyway, you're a student??? THINK.
Look around you, realise you are surrounded by 200-1000 broke students with the latest expansive mobile phone.
Ask them randomly or ask your student association to ask around.
End of problems
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You're a student, you're broke and yet you afford a 400-500GBP device...
Anyway, you're a student??? THINK.
Look around you, realise you are surrounded by 200-1000 broke students with the latest expansive mobile phone.
Ask them randomly or ask your student association to ask around.
End of problems
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good forum name for someone with a hd2...
it's on contract dude, my brother pays for it and i owe him it all at the end of the 18 months.
Simple scenario: I have a couple batteries, I'd rather use one and then swap it out when it's 10%, inserting the other charged one.
With every device I've owned, removing the battery didn't automatically lead to losing the date&time settings (not even on my Nokia 6111, as long as you were fast in plugging the new one in), while with this expensive beast of phone, it appears that even if you slightly flip out the battery and reinsert it in a matter of less than a second, rebooting WILL lead to the clock being reset to the first of january of the year 2000.
On my HD2, leaving the battery out for half a day didn't reset the clock.
This behaviour doesn't change whether you set the clock to automatic or not.
What surprises me is that noone in the internet seems to be swapping batteries on their S II, because noone else reported this problem.
Do any of you have any kind of suggestion?
Leaving the clock to "automatic" also doesn't appear to be resetting to the correct date, not even if I set on and off airplane mode to re-shake with my carrier.
Does the fact that noone replied mean that I am the only one having this problem (which would call for a warranty servicing), or that noone ever needs to swap batteries, or lastly that noone does even care?
ephestione said:
Does the fact that noone replied mean that I am the only one having this problem (which would call for a warranty servicing), or that noone ever needs to swap batteries, or lastly that noone does even care?
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1 2 or 3 .
Or more likely nobody has read your post that knows the answer YET.
jje
Quite right, quite right
For starters though, since this would somehow ease my mind, does your clock also get reset if you unplug the battery for a short while? (suppose you own a SGSII as well since you're in here )
No and i would guess yours is hardware fault .
jje
....sucks.
I would exclude it depends anyhow from the custom roms I've installed, I never tried unplugging battery on the stock rom before flashing.
This never happened to me in any new phone. It used to happen in my old Nokia phones when they get old (after 1 or 2 years)
There is an internal battery to keep the clock which died in your GSII.
Warranty shall cover it
Yup, apparently this is the only expanation. A huge bad luck.
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So here's the news. Had to wait for monday to come in order to call the phone support.
Not very much surprisingly they told me that the system clock resetting to Sat 1 Jan 2000 whenever you take out the battery is "perfectly normal" (yeah, welcome to 2011).
Which collides with what you, @JJEgan and @salamt, reported.
So it makes me think the gal at the phone was bullsh*tting me.
She confirmed though that flashing custom roms will invalidate the warranty. No change there.
Which collides with what you, @JJEgan and @salamt, reported.
So it makes me think the gal at the phone was bullsh*tting me.
I take my battery out frequently and clock stays the same presume left out for a couple of days it would lose the charge and clock reset .
1343 battery out
1346 battery in
boot phone
time reads 1346
jje
So this is a good indication of how samsung support tells you nice tales. Actually this scares me more than the fact that the phone's backup battery was DOA.
Hi ephestione,
my S2 keeps the clock running without battery at least for half an hour, so i assume your device has an malfunction with the internal battery as user salamt already has stated.
I did sent in my S2 already 3 times to Samsung warranty support because of another hardware fault (sound of lower Microphone is very low and stuttering, so people have trouble to hear me).
Everytime i get it back my clock says something with Year 2000 - Hey the phone isnt that old
My HD2 is keeping the clock running for weeks without an battery ...
Send in your phone for warranty, if its important for you to switch batteries.
But be aware, Samsungs customer support isnt the best
I did buy the official Samsung 2000mAh battery with nice cover from Amazon and its nearby not possible to suck the S2 empty on one day.
Greetz Tokl
More confirmations about this glitch of mine, that is a real glitch instead of "completely normal feature" as the Samsung support would like to pass it by.
Thank you for adding yet another precious feedback with this aspect, as now I am positive the phone is defective.
You are correct, the phone doesn't have internal batteries, it's a capacitor, which runs the timing chip, which controls everything on the phone, which without power should run for about 48 hours give or take. Faulty capacitor is definitely grounds for a warranty repair, and if you gets someone who says it's "normal" ask for their supervisor, and if their supervisor is still that ignorant, keep going up the chain.
You have to realize that "customer support" for most companies basically work the same as insurance companies, the fewer the claims, the better, so if you can make a customer live with an issue that doesn't kill the phone, they do it. However, a faulty capacitor can surge a mainboard, and truly kill electronics, get it fixed while you still have a warranty to fall back on!
I chose the quick way around. Sold the phone
Sure my hd2 now feels like a slow brick compared to the superlight all-plastic S2, but at least I know it's been making me company for the last couple years, and I trust it.
sorry for digging up this old thread but im having the same issue after flashing so many ROMs. It never happened to me.
Just to confirm, is there really no "battery" or some power source (like the BIOS battery) for phone to "remember" the time and date? Instead it uses a capacitor? just wanna know in case customer service bull**** me. But i dont think a battery (even those coin-sized) would fit in the sgs2
Since I've long since sold my SGS2 and now am using a SGN, which does remember the time after a battery swap, I can tell you definitely it's a hardware problem.
Alas, support WILL bs you if they can, but I suppose if you know they are doing that, you can make a strong voice and have them issue a repair/switch service for you, by telling them up front you know you're right and wll be speaking with a superior/write anout it on your blog.
ephestione said:
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So here's the news. Had to wait for monday to come in order to call the phone support.
Not very much surprisingly they told me that the system clock resetting to Sat 1 Jan 2000 whenever you take out the battery is "perfectly normal" (yeah, welcome to 2011).
Which collides with what you, @JJEgan and @salamt, reported.
So it makes me think the gal at the phone was bullsh*tting me.
She confirmed though that flashing custom roms will invalidate the warranty. No change there.
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I agree that they were BS'ing you. Otherwise, why would there be component BAT500 which other users have reported Samsung service centres have told them has leaked and destroyed their WiFi chip? http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=28036#c471
BAT500 is an EDL Capacitor which stores charge while the battery is in then slowly dischargers when the battery is removed. My phone started loosing the clock immediately when the battery is removed but its stopped now. I believe its could be one of two things but I can't be 100% sure. I had my phone on charge every night for that last couple of weeks and I noticed the issue. Over the last two days I have let the phone run flat and charged it again and now it remembers the time when I remove the battery for at least a minute. The other theory is that I also had wifi always on for the last couple of weeks and that also has been off for two days now. The wifi chip is right next to the capacitor and if the chip was to get warm it could cause the capacitor to malfunction.
sianzb0i said:
sorry for digging up this old thread but im having the same issue after flashing so many ROMs. It never happened to me.
Just to confirm, is there really no "battery" or some power source (like the BIOS battery) for phone to "remember" the time and date? Instead it uses a capacitor? just wanna know in case customer service bull**** me. But i dont think a battery (even those coin-sized) would fit in the sgs2
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thanks for all the valuable inputs. i will go to SSC next week. Have been putting it off cos tmr i am going overseas and i nid my S2 with me.
Hopefully they are willing to change.
EDIT: and i realised it happened to those who root and flash ROMs often
I'm having some issues with my phone today guys. I went to sleep with my phone on charge (like I have done every single night since I've had the phone), and when I woke up my phone was ridiculously hot. That hot that I couldn't even hold it in my hand. My old HD2 got hot, but nothing like this.
I'm afraid some of the internals have fried or something. I'm on an NDT MIUI ROM. I think it's version 4.X.X or something. But basically now, my phone will not charge a single bit. It'll go to the battery empty screen, then to the Galaxy S II screen, turn on, show my notifications then after every notification has shown, it goes back off. While plugged in.
What's the problem and what can I do to rectify it? A new battery?
Thanks in advance.
EDIT: Now it's just looping between the no battery (empty battery with circle) and the Galaxy S II screen.
I was getting to the lockscreen a while ago.
That was over the wall charger, I'm now trying to charge it off my laptop if that matters.
Bump. I don't really want to have an expensive plastic paperweight for very long.
Does the battery look fattened?..try changing batteries,if that didn't work then I'm afraid you have to take it to Samsung..
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Does the battery look fattened?..try changing batteries,if that didn't work then I'm afraid you have to take it to Samsung..
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I don't quite understand what you mean by 'fattened'. If you mean bigger, then no it still fits quite comfortably into the phone. I'm going to try get a hold of another battery later and I'll give it a go. If I do end up having to send it to Samsung, what will they do knowing it has a custom ROM on it? My flash counter is only 2, but I wouldn't even be able to get into the bootloader, as I don't have enough battery to do so.
Luck of the draw basically if you can't reflash stock firmware/jig it.
Some people on here have reported Samsung/whomever has repaired it has played hardball & not repaired it under warranty (which they're entitled to do, which means you pay for it), and some people have reported they've had it fixed under warranty regardless.
At the end of the day, running non-stock firmware voids your warranty (regardless of whether some people on here think that's wrong, etc), and if you can't return the phone to stock firmware and you do get it fixed under warranty you can consider yourself lucky.
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If I do end up having to send it to Samsung, what will they do knowing it has a custom ROM on it? My flash counter is only 2, but I wouldn't even be able to get into the bootloader, as I don't have enough battery to do so.
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Luck of the draw basically if you can't reflash stock firmware/jig it.
Some people on here have reported Samsung/whomever has repaired it has played hardball & not repaired it under warranty (which they're entitled to do, which means you pay for it), and some people have reported they've had it fixed under warranty regardless.
At the end of the day, running non-stock firmware voids your warranty (regardless of whether some people on here think that's wrong, etc), and if you can't return the phone to stock firmware and you do get it fixed under warranty you can consider yourself lucky.
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OK cheers for that. I unlocked it using some app also, will that have any effect?
I'm really hoping I don't have to go down that route and that a new battery will have it back up and running again. I just feel like it's struggling to keep power to it or something, when on the battery screen, the screen slightly flickers if you look closely, and on the boot anim. the capacitive buttons struggle for light while the screen is as good as it always was.
Also, it's just saying "LOW BATTERY !! CAN'T DOWNLOAD !!" when I try get into the bootloader/download mode w/e it's called so I guess there's hope it's only the battery?
Good news! I went to a phone shop, tried a cheap Chinese battery and it seemed to turn on and load everything just fine. Another shop I tried had an original OEM (well atleast an OEM sticker) battery and that wouldn't work. It's weird! Let's hope my battery can last a suitable amount of time on the Chinese battery. Any recommendations on where I could find an official battery? Looked on Amazon, and some of the reviews are claiming that it's actually just a cheap battery with a Samsung sticker.
Please... someone help me as I have bought this phone without a warranty and likewise have no insurance.. and I JUST bought the phone maybe a month ago!!!!/B]
My phone won't keep a charge, it charges only to a certain point while on the charger (that is any charger, inc. the one that came with the phone), but will die within about 15-20 mins after taking it off of the charger, and if I use it while on the charger it will drain the battery the same way as if it was off of the charger, and die within 10-15 mins! Likewise, it started doing this funky vibrating stuff just an hour ago and will not boot up while on the charger at all anymore! I did a little research and found different opinions.. the most relevant being a need to replace the charger port and the other to change the battery. This is crazy as my phone as well as the accompanying accessories such as the battery and the charger were bought brand spanking new and SHOULD NOT be going crazy like this!
Signed,
One p.o'd Miss
I take it the phone is 100% stock; not rooted or no custom ROM? And you say that it is new and you did nothing to cause this? You didn't get it wet?
Try a factory restore. If that doesn't help then I would try a new battery.
Sounds like a failed battery to me.
A trip to your phone carrier store would be easy enough. I think they would at least try another battery for quick diagnosis.
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I take it the phone is 100% stock; not rooted or no custom ROM? And you say that it is new and you did nothing to cause this? You didn't get it wet?
Try a factory restore. If that doesn't help then I would try a new battery.
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No, I did no cause the issue nor did I get my phone wet. It simply started doing what I described in my initial post.. I noticed it when I plugged my phone in and it has been an ongoing situation for about 4-5 days now.
Thank you for the response and suggestion
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Sounds like a failed battery to me.
A trip to your phone carrier store would be easy enough. I think they would at least try another battery for quick diagnosis.
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Thank you very much for the quick response. I figured that the battery was the issue. I had a Samsung Galaxy 3 prior to purchasing the Note and it had the exact same issue,.. well not the same exact symptoms, but the need for a new battery due to not taking a charge, and I hadn't had that particular phone more than 6 months! Perhaps it is a Samsung manufacturing issue with faulty batteries, similar to car manufacturers who have massive recalls on their vehicles due to faulty engine or other car parts. My physician told me that I needed to switch to an IPhone, lol... better quality I assume. Perhaps he is right.. ???
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MommaHoney said:
No, I did no cause the issue nor did I get my phone wet. It simply started doing what I described in my initial post.. I noticed it when I plugged my phone in and it has been an ongoing situation for about 4-5 days now.
Thank you for the response and suggestion
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Oh.. I forgot, yes the phone is 100% stock as you assumed. Terrible that it is doing what it is doing! Guess I need to get that battery then... ho hum.. more moola out of my darn pockets!
Your carrier (AT&T, T-Mobil, etc) store would at least put in a known good battery to see if that is all it is. And if so, then a new the cost of a new battery is next.
And as far as the iPhone......been down that road, and I could never go back to the iPhone. It was good for it's purpose and reliable. But NO more reliable than any Android phone I've owned. (3 of them).
And should the battery die in the iPhone, you will need to take it or send it back to an iPhone repair center. You don't just pull the back of it off, and replace the battery. At least in my 2 - iPhone 3G versions anyway.
And then there is rooting...cant hack an iPhone. You can jail break them, but that is not the same thing, and you still have no control over the OS.
JMO on the apple stuff.. Good, but VERY limited.
Keep your Note, it's better IMO, and has a huge screen.
I just recieved my LG G5 H850 and it doesn't charge. After plugging it in to the charger that it came with battery with 0% on it shows up, then changes into a battery with loading circle, eventually it shows battery with question mark and red stripe on it and next to that - battery with LG logo. What does it mean? I just recieved the phone and how come it considers the components unoriginal when they are fresh out of the box?
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I just recieved my LG G5 H850 and it doesn't charge. After plugging it in to the charger that it came with battery with 0% on it shows up, then changes into a battery with loading circle, eventually it shows battery with question mark and red stripe on it and next to that - battery with LG logo. What does it mean? I just recieved the phone and how come it considers the components unoriginal when they are fresh out of the box?
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Where did you purchace it from a carrier or online. There have been many rumors of cheaply made clones. If its new take it back for waranty. They should exchange it..
I bought it abroad so I'd rather not send it for warranty because I'm afraid it's going to take ages to send me back a new one. Im thinking of buying a new battery, it's going to cost me like 10$ and maybe save me a lot of time, any other thoughts what might it be? Because it can be either a charger or battery, right? Since phone displays some battery error I'd take a guess at the first one
Have you tried charging it from the PC? If that works, the charger might be broken.
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I bought it abroad so I'd rather not send it for warranty because I'm afraid it's going to take ages to send me back a new one. Im thinking of buying a new battery, it's going to cost me like 10$ and maybe save me a lot of time, any other thoughts what might it be? Because it can be either a charger or battery, right? Since phone displays some battery error I'd take a guess at the first one
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Make sure you get offical version battery, just to be safe. You try taken it to your cell phone carrier'? A lot of them will let you test battery and charger.
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Make sure you get offical version battery, just to be safe. You try taken it to your cell phone carrier'? A lot of them will let you test battery and charger.
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Didn't think of that! I'm going to test it tomorrow and update the post with info on the issue.
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Didn't think of that! I'm going to test it tomorrow and update the post with info on the issue.
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Could be a bad usb circut in the chin also i know. I can use any battery i want in my g3 if it fits or not. It turns on with a old 1800mah lg battery but if i put the orig g3 or no batter i get the ? So now that i read what im typing it could be a battery issue. But if batt dont work next quikest cheapest would be the chin
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Could be a bad usb circut in the chin also i know. I can use any battery i want in my g3 if it fits or not. It turns on with a old 1800mah lg battery but if i put the orig g3 or no batter i get the ? So now that i read what im typing it could be a battery issue. But if batt dont work next quikest cheapest would be the chin
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Sorry but whats the "chin" you are talking about?
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Sorry but whats the "chin" you are talking about?
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The bottom slide out mudule. With the usb port in it. What the battery clicks into. But i dont think its that cause there is electricity making it to the lcd to display the question mark so thats like a last resort.
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The bottom slide out mudule. With the usb port in it. What the battery clicks into. But i dont think its that cause there is electricity making it to the lcd to display the question mark so thats like a last resort.
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Oh, thus the "chin" name, clever. Yeah I also think this might be the last thing thats faulty since phone seems picky on battery.
Alright, battery just arrived, phone turns on, charges using Quick Charge so I guess it proves the obivious - it was the battery fault. Thank You for the help