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Hey everybody..
I have decided to buy new phone and I've shortlisted down to HTC One X+, Sony Xperia T and LG Nexus 4
If there's another I should consider please let me know
As u know,
HTC One X+ has a 1.7GHz quad core tegra 3 processor with a 1GB RAM
Sony Xperia T has a dual core 1.5GHz Krait with a 1GB RAM
LG Nexus 4 has a 1.6GHz Quad core Krait with 2GB RAM
I know the nexus seems to be the obvious choice when it comes to performance but I'm not familiar with LG's build quality. Also, the phone is expected to be not more than 350USD which in itself makes me doubt the quality.
People with knowledge about the hardware please help me out here.. I'm spending a lot of money and want to make sure i don't make the wrong choice.
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Also considering the LG Optimus G now coz the reviews r pretty good
LG isn't as bad as ppl think it is. Nexus products are undoubtedly good.
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AdX9170 said:
Hey everybody..
I have decided to buy new phone and I've shortlisted down to HTC One X+, Sony Xperia T and LG Nexus 4
If there's another I should consider please let me know
As u know,
HTC One X+ has a 1.7GHz quad core tegra 3 processor with a 1GB RAM
Sony Xperia T has a dual core 1.5GHz Krait with a 1GB RAM
LG Nexus 4 has a 1.6GHz Quad core Krait with 2GB RAM
I know the nexus seems to be the obvious choice when it comes to performance but I'm not familiar with LG's build quality. Also, the phone is expected to be not more than 350USD which in itself makes me doubt the quality.
People with knowledge about the hardware please help me out here.. I'm spending a lot of money and want to make sure i don't make the wrong choice.
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galaxy nexus was $399.
do you doubt its build quality?
http://www.engadget.com/2012/10/29/google-nexus-4-hands-on/
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galaxy nexus was $399.
do you doubt its build quality?
http://www.engadget.com/2012/10/29/google-nexus-4-hands-on/
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well the nexus 4 has a quad core krait at 1.6GHz and a 2GB RAM.. i mean the best u can get for that price now is a 1GHz dual core with max 1GB RAM..
so i'm not sure how to believe the build quality
Google Nexus 4 is the best. I have a htc one x now and I will sell it and buy a google nexus 4.
leventccc said:
Google Nexus 4 is the best. I have a htc one x now and I will sell it and buy a google nexus 4.
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give me ur opinion once u get nexus 4
AdX9170 said:
give me ur opinion once u get nexus 4
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Here is a comparison.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0AsedG9trZ9updHhycDlGdGFsaEw2NXB3elBhN1pkWVE&output=html
But the Main drawback of nexus is it does not have a sd card slot if storage not an issue for you then nexus is an option.. I think it will available in 8 and 16 GB ..please correct me if I am wrong..
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for me its best wait another bit because i think google will do like with nexus 7.now lg nexus 8\16,then after a month,2 or 3,also upper storage at a bit more price..just my suggestion,but i seriously think they will do so.Anyways,in that comparison,lg nexus 4 all the way.at least also the sony,but man,a nexus is a nexus!in 2016 probably you will have in this day upcoming the android 8.0 for lg nexus 4.think of it
the hardware matters more to me.. u can always get a custom rom but u cant change the hardware.. and also, im not considering ne phone bigger than 4.7 inches.. so nexus 7 is outta the picture.. so is note 2.
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Here is a comparison.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0AsedG9trZ9updHhycDlGdGFsaEw2NXB3elBhN1pkWVE&output=html
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i was talking abt the one x+.. it has a faster gpu, cpu and also has a 2100mAh battery.. but yea anyway nexus 4 seems better.. but the storage is an issue
AdX9170 said:
i was talking abt the one x+.. it has a faster gpu, cpu and also has a 2100mAh battery.. but yea anyway nexus 4 seems better.. but the storage is an issue
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Yeah, I pretty much agree. Nexus 4 is such a beast spec wise and such a great deal for the price, but the storage is an absolutely huge downside unfortunately.
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Yeah, I pretty much agree. Nexus 4 is such a beast spec wise and such a great deal for the price, but the storage is an absolutely huge downside unfortunately.
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If HTC or Sony come out with a quad core krait phone il b the first one to buy it
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I've be thinking myself about getting either the Nexus 4 of the HTC One X+ (I'm not considering the Sony phone).
First, keep in mind that the reason the Nexus 4 is so inexpensive, for an unlocked phone, is because Google is deliberately selling it at cost (as a sort of loss leader) to get people into their cloud services and ecosystem. They're also trying to entice people into unlocked devices and do an end run around the carriers and all their demands. And, since this is the developer phone, Google has an interest in making it appealing for developers to purchase and, well, develop apps for Android. So the cost is not a reflection of the quality of the phone. It's a choice by Google to sell the phone cheaply. Lastly, flash storage is super expensive and Google has put very little into this device (16GB max), so that big shortcoming also helps keep the cost down (the HTC One X+ will have either twice, 32GB, or four times, 64GB, as much storage).
That aside, I've been reading a lot of reviews of the Nexus 4 (Engadget, Wired, Tech Crunch, The Verge, Slashgear, Gizmodo--perhaps a couple others I don't remember off hand). I really want to love the Nexus 4, but it has a lot of shortcomings.
Obviously it does not have LTE, which does not make it very future proof. And it offers max only 16GB of storage, with no SD card.
Despite having the latest greatest quad-core processor out there, a number of reviews have benchmarked the phone and show it gets scores not as good previous generation phones (like the original HTC One X beats it). That makes no sense. Perhaps it's a software issue that will be corrected before release, but you might want to wait and see.
Another weird problem is that a number of reviewers have found it's battery life to be poor. Engadget called it "pathetic." This is despite the fact that it has a large 2100 mAh battery (same as in the One X+) and a new supposedly more efficient processor, yet it doesn't even get as good battery life as the orginal One X with a smaller battery and a less efficient processor.
The camera on the Nexus 4 is also supposed to be passable, but not great. A step up form the poor cameras in previous Nexus devices, but definitely not as good as flagship devices like the Galaxy SIII and the One X/X+ (or the amazing Nokia Lumia 920).
Another issue, for me, is the glass back. I feel like, didn't we already learn from the iPhone 4 that glass backs are a bad idea? Isn't this something just waiting to break? The reviewer at The Verge already cracked the glass back on his review unit, when he accidentally knocked the phone off of a table onto a hardwood floor. And the reviewer at Tech Crunch said that the smooth back of the phone makes it want to slide, a couple times taking off when he placed it on a surface that was more slanted than he expected. So the back is prone to breaking and also makes the phone want to slide away. Not a good combination.
A number of reviewers have also said the the volume in the earpiece is low and it can be difficult to hear callers in noisy environments. Although other reviewers said there is plenty of volume. And a couple reviewers note that the prefectly flat back of the phone means that when you put it down, the speaker is covered and this muffles sound (the ringer, any audio you might be playing).
Several reviewers have also said that the IPS LCD screen has washed out colors or a slightly blue/cool tint. They say the screen is amazing and amongst the best, but not as good as the similar technology based screen in the One X+.
So when it comes down to it, I have the impression that the Nexus 4 isn't quite up to the standards of other true flagship phones, like the One X+. It falls a little short in too many places. The only places where it really stands out are the latest and greatest processor (though it's not clear the OS has been properly optimized for it), 2GB of RAM, and it's a pure Android phone.
I think the reason to get the Nexus 4 is either because you want a pure Android unlocked phone (which certainly appeals to me) or because it's a good deal for an unlocked phone.
But otherwise the One X+ has a better screen, a sturdier and for some more appealing design (with its solid carbonate shell), better audio quality, better cpu benchmarks, better battery life, much more internal storage, a better camera, and LTE (depending on what model you get). And hopefully eventually you could put Cyanogen or another custom ROM on it and have a pure Android experience anyway. As you note the Optimus G could also be an option, but it's not a phone that appeals to me.
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I've be thinking myself about getting either the Nexus 4 of the HTC One X+ (I'm not considering the Sony phone).
First, keep in mind that the reason the Nexus 4 is so inexpensive, for an unlocked phone, is because Google is deliberately selling it at cost (as a sort of loss leader) to get people into their cloud services and ecosystem. They're also trying to entice people into unlocked devices and do an end run around the carriers and all their demands. And, since this is the developer phone, Google has an interest in making it appealing for developers to purchase and, well, develop apps for Android. So the cost is not a reflection of the quality of the phone. It's a choice by Google to sell the phone cheaply. Lastly, flash storage is super expensive and Google has put very little into this device (16GB max), so that big shortcoming also helps keep the cost down (the HTC One X+ will have either twice, 32GB, or four times, 64GB, as much storage).
That aside, I've been reading a lot of reviews of the Nexus 4 (Engadget, Wired, Tech Crunch, The Verge, Slashgear, Gizmodo--perhaps a couple others I don't remember off hand). I really want to love the Nexus 4, but it has a lot of shortcomings.
Obviously it does not have LTE, which does not make it very future proof. And it offers max only 16GB of storage, with no SD card.
Despite having the latest greatest quad-core processor out there, a number of reviews have benchmarked the phone and show it gets scores not as good previous generation phones (like the original HTC One X beats it). That makes no sense. Perhaps it's a software issue that will be corrected before release, but you might want to wait and see.
Another weird problem is that a number of reviewers have found it's battery life to be poor. Engadget called it "pathetic." This is despite the fact that it has a large 2100 mAh battery (same as in the One X+) and a new supposedly more efficient processor, yet it doesn't even get as good battery life as the orginal One X with a smaller battery and a less efficient processor.
The camera on the Nexus 4 is also supposed to be passable, but not great. A step up form the poor cameras in previous Nexus devices, but definitely not as good as flagship devices like the Galaxy SIII and the One X/X+ (or the amazing Nokia Lumia 920).
Another issue, for me, is the glass back. I fee like, didn't we already learn from the iPhone 4 that glass backs are a bad idea? Isn't this something just waiting to break? The reviewer at The Verge already cracked the glass back on his review unit, when he accidentally knocked the phone off of a table onto a hardwood floor. And the reviewer at Tech Crunch said that the smooth back of the phone makes it want to slide, a couple times taking off when he placed it on a surface that was more slanted than he expected. So the back is prone to breaking and also makes the phone want to slide away. Not a good combination.
A number reviewers have also said the the volume in the earpiece is low and it can be difficult to hear callers in noisy environments. Although other reviewers said their is plenty of volume. And a couple reviewers note that the prefectly flat back of the phone means that when you put it down, the speaker is covered and this muffles sound (the ringer, any audio you might be playing).
Several reviewers have also said that the IPS LCD screen has washed out colors or a slightly blue/cool tint. They say the screen is amazing and amongst the best, but not as good as the similar technology based screen in the One X+.
So when it comes down to it, I have the impression that the Nexus 4 isn't quite up to the standards of other true flagship phones, like the One X+. It falls a little short in too many places. The only places where it really stands out are the latest a greatest processor (though it's not clear the OS has been properly optimized for it), 2GB of RAM, and it's a pure Android phone.
I think the reason to get the Nexus 4 is either because you want a pure Android unlocked phone (which certainly appeals to me) or because it's a good deal for an unlocked phone.
But otherwise the One X+ has a better screen, a sturdier and for some more appealing design (with its solid carbonite shell), better audio quality, better cpu benchmarks, better battery life, much more internal storage, a better camera, and LTE (depending on what model you get). And hopefully eventually you could put Cyanogen or another custom ROM on it and have a pure Android experience anyway. As you note the Optimus G could also be an option, but it's not a phone that appeals to me.
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Thanks for the in depth opinion ok so then nexus 4 is off my list.. what abt optimus g v.s. one x+?
i'm leaning towards the s4 pro chipset.. each core of the krait can be independently clocked at a particular frequency.. thats gotta increase efficiency right??
plus adreno 320 is a helluva lot faster than its predecessors and supposedly quite a bit faster than the competition..
the only prob for me is that the optimus is coming out in india only by jan '13 im not sure if its worth the wait.. any ideas on that?
The software on the nexus 4 isn't the final version, so wait until the consumer version comes out!
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AdX9170 said:
Thanks for the in depth opinion ok so then nexus 4 is off my list.. what abt optimus g v.s. one x+?
i'm leaning towards the s4 pro chipset.. each core of the krait can be independently clocked at a particular frequency.. thats gotta increase efficiency right??
plus adreno 320 is a helluva lot faster than its predecessors and supposedly quite a bit faster than the competition..
the only prob for me is that the optimus is coming out in india only by jan '13 im not sure if its worth the wait.. any ideas on that?
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I'd get the One X+. It's really a joy to hold, looks great, and already has a massive development community.
AdX9170 said:
Thanks for the in depth opinion ok so then nexus 4 is off my list.. what abt optimus g v.s. one x+?
i'm leaning towards the s4 pro chipset.. each core of the krait can be independently clocked at a particular frequency.. thats gotta increase efficiency right??
plus adreno 320 is a helluva lot faster than its predecessors and supposedly quite a bit faster than the competition..
the only prob for me is that the optimus is coming out in india only by jan '13 im not sure if its worth the wait.. any ideas on that?
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I wouldn't totally write off the Nexus 4 yet. I'm still considering it. Partly because it is a very good deal, for an unlocked phone. The One X+ or Xperia T and Optimus G will probably cost almost twice as much, unlocked.
And I think devgee is correct that the review units for the Nexus 4 did not have the final consumer version of the software on them yet. This might address the battery life and cpu benchmark issues. (It's unfortunate the reviews get published on devices that aren't really what will ship, because any improvements or changes can get overlooked later. I don't know if these reviewers will go back and retest the device.)
For me, it's the minimal storage on the Nexus 4 that makes me hesitate the most, but maybe I can learn to live with it.
If you like the Optimus G, it's definitely worth considering, since it doesn't have the storage limitations of the Nexus 4, and it tested well for battery life and in the cpu benchmarks. And some versions have a higher resolution 13MP camera. But you give up the pure Android experience. And as James.UBC points out, I don't know that it will have as many custom ROM options as the One X+. I don't really like the design of the Optimus G, but that is entirely a superficial reason not to get it and only my personal taste. Some people think it looks great.
I agree that it would be nice to have the S4 Pro chipset. You can also get this in the Asus Padfone 2, which is a cool phone. It also has 2GB of RAM, the Adreno 320, LTE (for certain frequencies), a 2140 mAh battery, and 16/32/64GB storage options. Plus there's the tablet attachement, if you're into that. Its big downside is that it may have no custom ROMs for it at all, if you want that. I think the original Padfone had basically no development. It's a bit puzzling, because this is a cool phone.
I also agree with James.UBC that the One X+ has a great design. To me its main downsides are that it will be much more expensive than the Nexus 4, unlocked (probably $600US or more). And I don't know if it will have an unlocked bootloader, depending on which version I want to get. And even if it does, I'll have to wait for the development community to catch up and release a ROM that will give me a stock-like Android experience (I don't like Sense). And of course, it has a very good CPU, but one from the previous generation of architecture. I tend to keep my phones for a while, so something that is as future proof as possible is good for me.
Anyway, I recommend that you read reviews of the devices you're interested in on the sites I mentioned in my first post and search around for other reviews. Reviews are easy to find and you get a sense pretty quickly of how thoughtful and knowledgeable the reviewer is. Then keep an eye out in the reviews for comments about the features that matter to you and any problems mentioned. I wouldn't take any one particular review as necessarily right. But if you read several, you start to get a feel for what the issues are.
In the end, you probably can't go wrong with any of these devices either. It really comes down to a matter of personal taste and which features are most important to you. No one device is the best one for everybody.
Thanks a lot cb474.. for me, storage is very important and so is camera.. price comes later in the priority list.. development is also important..
nexus 4 will only have 11~12GB of user available space.. on my x10, i have a 16GB microsd with an ext3 partition of ~700MB which is almost full.. in spite of that i have used up more than 11GB on the sd so i dont think 11GB overall free mem will b enough for me
so my options should be the optimus g (which has an average camera), one x+ (has old generation hardware), xperia t (has dual core with only 1GB ram)... arggghhh!!!
padphone 2 is also gr8 but if theres no dev on it then i'm not willing to go for it
ok this thread has reached a dead end for now.. will wait for the said phones to release and get better reviews..
thanks folks!!
Yeah, it's a hard decision to make. I remain torn between the Nexus 4 and One X+. I care about storage too. 16GB is just a little paltry, for the reasons you point out. At least 32GB would have been nice. Some people think there's a chance there will be a refresh of the Nexus 4 in a few months, with more storage. But I've learned my lesson in the past, about waiting around for rumored and speculated phones.
I'm also a little concerned about the mediocre battery life the Nexus 4 is currently getting, although it's with pre-release software. I'm a bit in a wait and see mode on that.
I agree that as nice as the Padfone 2 is, without development, it's ruled out for me. I presonally would not consider the Sony because of the dual core processor.
It's true the One X+ has a previous generation hardware, but only six months ago it was cutting edge, so I feel like it's splitting hairs a bit. On the other hand, if gaming is important to you the newer generation cpu and gpu in the Nexus 4/Optimus G will make a difference. The bigger long term (future proof) limitation of the One X+, to me, is the 1GB or RAM. But I think it's still a nice phone worth considering.
Still, as I said, if you like the Optimus G, it seems like a good choice. Yeah the One X+ camera hardware is better, it's software is supposed to have a slightly annoying continuous autofocus function. But on some level all these phones are good enough. The great phone cameras are in the Nokia phones, the Lumia 920 and the 808 Pureview. Unless that's super imporant to you, I think it may not be the most important point for the decision.
Good luck in deciding. I'm waiting for more reviews too.
Just curious as to what the next Android device you want to get? Things keep advancing so fast, quad cores are coming to trend now and with Kit-Kat, there are a lot of possibilities. I'm considering switching from Sprint to AT&T, to get the LG G2! I'm so tired of Sprint and how crazy slow they are... I can get more, and significantly faster data with AT&T. The beizels on the G2 are a huge selling point for me, fitting a 5.2 inch screen into the same form factor as an HTC One is impressive. Not to mention the quad core 2.2 GHz processor on it... That's ridiculous, and I love my Nexus, but my god, that makes this look average... What about y'all?
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Just curious as to what the next Android device you want to get? Things keep advancing so fast, quad cores are coming to trend now and with Kit-Kat, there are a lot of possibilities. I'm considering switching from Sprint to AT&T, to get the LG G2! I'm so tired of Sprint and how crazy slow they are... I can get more, and significantly faster data with AT&T. The beizels on the G2 are a huge selling point for me, fitting a 5.2 inch screen into the same form factor as an HTC One is impressive. Not to mention the quad core 2.2 GHz processor on it... That's ridiculous, and I love my Nexus, but my god, that makes this look average... What about y'all?
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I know what you mean! Things are progressing at such a ridiculous rate in the mobile world; its incredible. Especially Intel. They've made an absolutely shocking amount of progress in the past year. They've basically done what took ARM companies 3-4 years in 12 months. I'm really looking forward to Intel chips in our smartphones and tablets; we'll finally be able to crush Apple's in-house designs!
As for my next device, I'm definitely going to be getting the Nexus 5. A 5" device with a Snapdragon 800, OIS, Android 4.4 and other incredible hardware? Count me in! I sold my Galaxy Nexus a few weeks back, after the Nexus 4 price drop (I got a shockingly good price for it, too) in preparation for the N5. Now, I realize that SOME of the leaked specifications may not be totally accurate, but I am also hoping that we get the 5" display in the smaller-than-Nexus 4 frame. That would totally sell it for me.
I will probably will continue to use my galaxy nexus until it dies. It have been an excellent phone.
If it dies however I will buy the Nexus 5 midst likely.
I don't think i could use anything else other than a Nexus and be happy with it. Mainly because of the updates.
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Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 2014 edition. Used the Spencer features and they can't be beat if doing a large amount of sketching.
But I may wait until spring as the N10 is still great. Use a capacitive stylus with good results.
I only got the Nexus 10 this summer, so I'm good with my tablet for a long while I hope.
My Droid RAZR M I got last October, so I would sooner replace that. If I decide to leave Verizon next time, then I may well go for a Nexus for a phone as well. I love getting the latest official updates OTA.
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I only got the Nexus 10 this summer, so I'm good with my tablet for a long while I hope.
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You are good for a long while. I fully agree. There's a lot of life left in this tablet.
Wait for the 2015 edition to be released Oct 2014
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I only got the Nexus 10 this summer, so I'm good with my tablet for a long while I hope.
My Droid RAZR M I got last October, so I would sooner replace that. If I decide to leave Verizon next time, then I may well go for a Nexus for a phone as well. I love getting the latest official updates OTA.
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I actually gave this some more thought, and I do not think I will go Nexus on my next phone for one reason, I want to keep a microsd slot. I keep a ton of music and other files on my phone I simply don't need on my tablet, and it irritates me such a simple convenience is being phased out by so many new phones. Screw the cloud model, I want my files on me when I want them without a connection.
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CrocadileUT78 said:
I actually gave this some more thought, and I do not think I will go Nexus on my next phone for one reason, I want to keep a microsd slot. I keep a ton of music and other files on my phone I simply don't need on my tablet, and it irritates me such a simple convenience is being phased out by so many new phones. Screw the cloud model, I want my files on me when I want them without a connection.
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Sigh... me, too. I've been wanting to come on this thread and pledge allegiance to the phone I hope the Nexus 5 will be. If it's a Snapdragon 800 / Adreno 330 / 1080p / 3000 mAh G2 with standard button placement and at least 2 Gb of RAM... running pure, unbloated, updated Android... then the Nexus 5 will be a stun-gun of a phone for 2013. (darn it... just drooled on my N10.)
But... we get all that and no removable memory? I know, that would mean space, weight, cost, whatever. But Samsung can do it on their flagships (with the added benefit of replaceable batteries). Seems like such a simple thing for winning freedom from needing access to a good WiFi signal.
If the N5 overcomes the N4's hardware limitations that now prevent the use of Nexus Media Importer -- and along with it the unrooted read/write use of USB card readers & memory sticks -- that'd go a long way. Let's just say I'm not holding my breath, since Google appears to have a different agenda.
For a brand that touts such an open OS, the box they put it in sure is closed.
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I actually gave this some more thought, and I do not think I will go Nexus on my next phone for one reason, I want to keep a microsd slot. I keep a ton of music and other files on my phone I simply don't need on my tablet, and it irritates me such a simple convenience is being phased out by so many new phones. Screw the cloud model, I want my files on me when I want them without a connection.
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I always only had 16 gb Sd cards so going from 16 gb s3 to 32 gb HTC didnt make a single difference for me I have 8 gb of music and about 10 gb free on device for movies, and i think thats the space i need.
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I always only had 16 gb Sd cards so going from 16 gb s3 to 32 gb HTC didnt make a single difference for me I have 8 gb of music and about 10 gb free on device for movies, and i think thats the space i need.
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OK... But you had to pay a lot more for that 32GB model I bet. My Droid RAZR M came with 8GB built in, and for only $20 I added another 32GB. I can even upgrade it to a 64GB microsd for less than $50. Good luck trying to get that kind of bargin upgrade on a non-microsd phone. Another added benefit... Let's say your phone meets an untimely death in the laundry machine, well at least with microsd your photos and music are perfectly safe.
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I'll get a Galaxy Nexus 2 when it comes (I hope it does). My Galaxy Nexus holds up for a while and I use my Nexus 10 for gaming. I'm not a fan of lg. I hope Samsung will produce a Nexus phone again.
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I've got my eye on a couple of future devices.
I'm hoping with the SG Note 3, the LG G2 -- and hopefully the Nexus 5 -- already or soon to be running the Snapdragon 800, we'll start to see some cool 64-bit apps. When the 64-bit world takes hold, that could be a nice time to pick up a SG S5. Samsung should have multitasking to a new level by then, too.
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I've got my eye on a couple of future devices.
I'm hoping with the SG Note 3, the LG G2 -- and hopefully the Nexus 5 -- already or soon to be running the Snapdragon 800, we'll start to see some cool 64-bit apps. When the 64-bit world takes hold, that could be a nice time to pick up a SG S5. Samsung should have multitasking to a new level by then, too.
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Hope Snapdragon 800 has better battery management than Snapdragon 600 or else i wouldnt worth it to upgrade imho. The speed upgrade means nothing, only think that makes your phone faster is a well tuned rom/kernel. My ex Galaxy S3 with Cm10.2 and a custom kernel is the fastest thing i've ever used by a ridiculous mergin. Everything happens instanlty and its last gen,
Also my HTC ONE with the 4.3 official Rom is also like a new phone. So much faster and battery life is like 2x what it used to be.
SideNote for Lg G2. Will lg EVER make a decent looking phone? I am sorry but i dont care if Lg G2 is the best phone ever released, its so boring looking i would never consider buying.
Maybe Nexus 5, need to wait and see
I agree, the G2 looks kinda plain -- at least while viewing it on a 2D screen. Could be pretty comfortable in the hand, though, with those backside curves. I was a little surprised, papakaliati, to hear you say you're interested in the Nexus 5 after what you had to say about LG and specifically their G2. Most folks are thinking it will be LG manufacturing the Nexus 5 and that it'll look a lot like the G2.
Galaxy Note 10.1 2014 32GB model. Already have it on pre-order. I had always said that the perfect device would be the Note 10.1 with the Nexus 10 screen, and voila! Can't wait!
An 8 inch Android tablet, probably the LG G Pad 8.3 because it's the first one to have 1080p. Or the next Note 8.0.
The Nexus 10 is too big to play games, etc.
Also maybe the next Nexus 5.
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Hope Snapdragon 800 has better battery management than Snapdragon 600 or else i wouldnt worth it to upgrade imho. The speed upgrade means nothing, only think that makes your phone faster is a well tuned rom/kernel. My ex Galaxy S3 with Cm10.2 and a custom kernel is the fastest thing i've ever used by a ridiculous mergin. Everything happens instanlty and its last gen,
Also my HTC ONE with the 4.3 official Rom is also like a new phone. So much faster and battery life is like 2x what it used to be.
SideNote for Lg G2. Will lg EVER make a decent looking phone? I am sorry but i dont care if Lg G2 is the best phone ever released, its so boring looking i would never consider buying.
Maybe Nexus 5, need to wait and see
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I agree that there's no point in trying to go any faster than 'instantly' ...sounds like you had a sweet setup with your S3!
With Kit Kat supposedly supporting ARM-64 and with Qualcomm, Tegra & Exynos -- and AMD & Intel? -- all producing 64-bit mobile processors in 2014, some interesting 64-bit applications might not be far behind, as well as some significant energy demands, like you've pointed to. I bet power-management & battery-design teams are putting in all-nighters to bring us more innovations like big.LITTLE... and to overcome the downsides of lithium-sulfur technology, which could increase battery life by a factor of 4.
Yeah, I wasn't talking about new processors running 32-bit apps faster, though there will, of course, be some performance gains as we'll as some overhead hits. I was thinking about the new capabilities heading our way once applications cross over into 64-bit territory -- whenever that is -- and not just better encryption and data-bunkering.
We'll be looking at real-time audio and image editing, providing such things as on-the-fly video-effects management... and faster vector processing, which game devs will surely take advantage of, like Infinity Blade III has for Apple's new phone. I'm eager to see the impact of 64 bit on multimedia multitasking. General improvements in multitasking could get us to the 32-bit 4Gb RAM ceiling surprisingly soon.
After that, the 64-bit RAM upper limit of 16 Exbibytes -- 17.18B Gigabytes -- should hold us a while!
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I agree, the G2 looks kinda plain -- at least while viewing it on a 2D screen. Could be pretty comfortable in the hand, though, with those backside curves. I was a little surprised, papakaliati, to hear you say you're interested in the Nexus 5 after what you had to say about LG and specifically their G2. Most folks are thinking it will be LG manufacturing the Nexus 5 and that it'll look a lot like the G2.
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I am hoping it will keep a more nexus line than LG but then again I might be just dreaming. New Note would be an instant by if I didn't have the nexus 10.
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I am hoping it will keep a more nexus line than LG but then again I might be just dreaming. New Note would be an instant by if I didn't have the nexus 10.
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They already have pics of the nexus 5 and a 3d rendering. You should check them out. The phone is a. Little plain. They got rid of the glass back and went with that rubbery plastic which is better durability i guess but not as good looking. They also got a bigger screen then nexus 4 with a smaller frame. :sly:
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In the G2's favor, this is an interesting market differentiation:
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I was just wondering if anyone had any thoughts on the Nexus 9? And if I would be worth selling the Nexus 10 and jumping ship out wait until 5.0 lollipop is out and then see how out tablets hold their own.
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I was just wondering if anyone had any thoughts on the Nexus 9? And if I would be worth selling the Nexus 10 and jumping ship out wait until 5.0 lollipop is out and then see how out tablets hold their own.
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Wait for the update. It's said to have improved performance on nexus devices.
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I'm gonna wait for the update on mine. I really hope it improved the tablets performance and battery life. Because my batteries starting to suck. If it doesn't really make a difference i may sell mine but i probably won't get the nexus 9. I'm waiting to see how the xperia z4 tab turns out because the z3 compact like like a beast though i want something bigger.
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I'm going to wait and see what "L" brings to the N10. Still a very good device in my opinion.
Having Similar thoughts!
The specs bump up is not that signficant for an 'upgrade' to N9. I would prefer to hold on the nexus 10 unless there is a very good trade in offer.
Yeah I think I'll wait then. I was so disappointed with the kitkat update as it seemed to of made my tablets performance rubbish. When I had it, it was quick, snappy and a dream then the dreaded update and went down hill from there. I hope the 'L' update sorts that. But I can be doing with the wait haha so jealous of the guys with there nexus 4/5 haha.
I love my N10 and don't really have any issues with it. Like many, I use a custom ROM because it seems to get faster response to bug fixes and has more customizations. At first there were only a few ROMs and now there are many of them to choose. If I were to consider an upgrade, it would be to for possibly a bigger unit such as a 12" or 14" - even though I like the 10".
Already ordered Nexus 9. 10's battery is getting weak, screen has the yellow splotch and keeps getting buggier. I may keep the 10 for use around the house, but it won't stay as my daily user.
I think the nexus 9 looks nice, but I'm keeping my 10.
While I do like 4:3 aspect ratio more thatn 16:9, since I do mostly reading on the tablet, I don't see any big improvement on the Nexus 9, so I'm going to keep my N10 for a while.
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The specs bump up is not that signficant for an 'upgrade' to N9. I would prefer to hold on the nexus 10 unless there is a very good trade in offer.
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'Not significant'?? Well i guess it depends in what area. The screen resolution is similar, but the screen cant possibly be anything other than far better. Its got more up to date Wifi, much much faster RAM and more of it, a CPU thats at least 5x faster in raw terms and a GPU thats an order of magnitude faster at least.
And all those specs on the N9 weren't necessary if Lollipop would truly bring an enormous performance update [emoji6]
I think we (the N10) can also forget the "coloring notification bar" like my N5 has with apps which have Material Design (like Gmail: red; Documents: blue; etc), because we didn't have transcluent not bar either with KitKat.
I'm intersted in seeing how well is N10 going to perform with 5.0, but I'm decided on getting the Nexus 9 anyway - I think the 4:3 9" device is a good compromise for using one device at home and outdoors or at university rather than having two separate devices for each task (I currently go to uni with N10 and use N7 at home due to its weight and portability)
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And all those specs on the N9 weren't necessary if Lollipop would truly bring an enormous performance update [emoji6]
I think we (the N10) can also forget the "coloring notification bar" like my N5 has with apps which have Material Design (like Gmail: red; Documents: blue; etc), because we didn't have transcluent not bar either with KitKat.
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So it won't be transparent in lollipop either? That's sad and just seems like a lazy decision. I highly doubt that it lowers performance. Almost every custom rom has it as translucent and I haven't seen any performance drops on there
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So it won't be transparent in lollipop either? That's sad and just seems like a lazy decision. I highly doubt that it lowers performance. Almost every custom rom has it as translucent and I haven't seen any performance drops on there
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I'm not counting on it.
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Lollipop AOSP is being pushed!!
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Yep I saw that just now as well. I can't wait hopefully we can get a factory image soon as tonight or tomorrow. (Its 6:36 right now eastern time) and still like 2:30 mountain time I think so its still resonab!e to expect it to day
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I'm still very much sitting on the fence on this one. I use my N10 almost exclusively in portrait mode and find it really heavy and awkward to hold. Plus web browsing (and even PDF editing on large PDF's) on the N10 can still be a sluggish experience. The N9's 4:3 aspect ratio, ~180g weight saving and ultrafast chip would be really helpful in countering my main gripes with the N10.
The initial reviews though don't sound hugely promising - especially about the poor battery life (4-5 hours) and flimsy back cover...
Hm...
Quite a few big reviewers have slated the N9 saying it's simply not worth the price tag.
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Quite a few big reviewers have slated the N9 saying it's simply not worth the price tag.
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Most of them have reviewed it before am 800 mb ota came out to fix any issues. They should've waited and Google should've not let them review until the ota was out. Wait for android authority's review they said they're gonna do it after spending a good amount of time with it. Also it's releasing at the same price point as nexus 10 and 20 dollars cheaper than nexus 10 for 32 GB version. So it's not really bad pricing. People just think that because of the nexus 7 being so cheap. Anyways you pretty much get an upgraded processor, upgraded GPU (which is very much needed for nexus 10) boom sound speakers (though the nexus 10 front speakers are pretty decent themselves) more compact device with only 1 inch smaller screen, much lighter and easier to hold. Slight camera upgrade as well. And probably a better screen even though the resolutions are the same. It's not that much of an upgrade over the nexus 10 but it's an update definitely. I myself am sticking with my nexus 10 since for my needs as a media device and some school stuff it's perfectly capable. Maybe I'll upgrade next year but after the nexus 10 I don't think I'll be getting a tablet anymore. More likely I'll get a touch laptop or one of those two in ones.
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Most of them have reviewed it before am 800 mb ota came out to fix any issues. They should've waited and Google should've not let them review until the ota was out. Wait for android authority's review they said they're gonna do it after spending a good amount of time with it. Also it's releasing at the same price point as nexus 10 and 20 dollars cheaper than nexus 10 for 32 GB version. So it's not really bad pricing. People just think that because of the nexus 7 being so cheap. Anyways you pretty much get an upgraded processor, upgraded GPU (which is very much needed for nexus 10) boom sound speakers (though the nexus 10 front speakers are pretty decent themselves) more compact device with only 1 inch smaller screen, much lighter and easier to hold. Slight camera upgrade as well. And probably a better screen even though the resolutions are the same. It's not that much of an upgrade over the nexus 10 but it's an update definitely. I myself am sticking with my nexus 10 since for my needs as a media device and some school stuff it's perfectly capable. Maybe I'll upgrade next year but after the nexus 10 I don't think I'll be getting a tablet anymore. More likely I'll get a touch laptop or one of those two in ones.
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Well the N10 is both moving much more pixels (1600 x 2560) and the density is higher as well (300 ppi vs 288 ppi).
not saying i wont possibly break down and buy it at some point BUT..
1. with Jasmine Rom 2.4.1 i have all the software features and will continue to get more faster
2. Note 4 is bigger and heavier and was not expecting that for the same size battery and screen
3. i will not notice the processor bump as my N3 doesnt slack now
4. Finer print scanner - i have zero need for such a thing
5 Camera - this was the only feature that made me want it but i have the camera from a software prospective already and wasnt enough to make me jump
i am in NO WAY DISSING the Note 4 and if i werent on a custom Note 3 i would jump in a second. i just cant get myself to spend the money on it at this time and possibly never.
i have a Macbook that runs around $1,300 and when they release a new one with a better front camera and small processor bump i am not going to spend $1,300 again for such a small change.
sad day as i was really looking forward to it but ooh well
uh, so why didn't you post this in the note 3 forum? it has absolutely nothing to do with the note 4.
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uh, so why didn't you post this in the note 3 forum? it has absolutely nothing to do with the note 4.
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He had to prove a point.
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uh, so why didn't you post this in the note 3 forum? it has absolutely nothing to do with the note 4.
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+1
Also, the N4 is a big upgrade. I bet you were drooling over the Retina screens of the more recent Macbooks when they were released.
Absolutely amazing camera (front and back), snapdragon 805, QHD screen, more memory... Leaves the N3 in the dust!
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uh, so why didn't you post this in the note 3 forum? it has absolutely nothing to do with the note 4.
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He had to prove a point.
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i wasnt trying to cause an argument or troll. i have a long history here with ZERO trolling of any kind and always try to help others.
i was simply posting in the Note 4 section about the Note 4 and what happened to me today and getting feedback from others. i cant be the only one in this situation of really wanting it but not seeing the $$$ value in coming from Note 3. as i said i would jump in a second coming from anything else like a S4 or Note 2.
Not to diss you in any shapr or form but...why didn't you just post this in the Note 3 forum? When I saw the title I thought was a mistype lol.
Thanks for making your point! I shall go enjoy my Note 4 now
P.S. I do see what you are saying, my friend is in the same boat. If I had the Note 3 I wouldn't jump either unless rom development simplied died with in the next 6 months
It leaves the G3 in the dust, but the N3 is still great and seems the N4 is not enough jump for an early upgrade. 64bit 20nm next year IMO will be.
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It leaves the G3 in the dust, but the N3 is still great and seems the N4 is not enough jump for an early upgrade. 64bit 20nm next year IMO will be.
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i should have added that if it had Lollipop installed i would have probably bought it while i was there. i know its coming but i also know that i would be frustrated waiting while HTC and Motorola get their Lollipops on 1+ year old devices before i would see it on my N4 much like my N3.
maybe i shouldnt have posted this thread here and so forgive me anyone that i have upset but this was a day just like the release day of the S4 and N3 where i was excited and was there to be one of the first and i couldnt (at this time) spend the cash while holding my N3.
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It leaves the G3 in the dust, but the N3 is still great and seems the N4 is not enough jump for an early upgrade. 64bit 20nm next year IMO will be.
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So what are the benefits to 64 bit in the near future? I'm running on the notion that the 64 bit note 4 won't be available for another year and widespread app support is probably another year to 2 years further down the line? I get the benefit of the 20nm process in terms of power consumption and more efficient battery use (though the Note 4 would get me through the day so does it really matter?), but are we really going to see big benefits from the 64 bit architecture before our 2 year contract is up on the note 4?
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N3 is still a good phone, was my goto for the longest time. It was way ahead of it's time when released, and still puts some current flagships to shame (you know which ones I'm talking about).
I just feel with the release of the N4, Nexus 6, 1+1, etc, it's put the N3 as a mid-range phablet and once we get root on the N4 the EOL for the N3 will speed up significantly.
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N3 is still a good phone, was my goto for the longest time. It was way ahead of it's time when released, and still puts some current flagships to shame (you know which ones I'm talking about).
I just feel with the release of the N4, Nexus 6, 1+1, etc, it's put the N3 as a mid-range phablet and once we get root on the N4 the EOL for the N3 will speed up significantly.
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good points and why i stated "not at this time" with my purchase because likely in the future when i get bored and there is root and exciting things happening with the N4 i may jump to it.
i cant get too excited for N6 at all simply because i dont feel being Vanilla it will have those phablet software features i want to make it more than a big phone. we shall see though in that one.
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He's still not 100% confident about his decision. So it's his way to reassure himself that he make the right decision, or asking others to make him change his mind to return N3 and get N4.
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He's still not 100% confident about his decision. So it's his way to reassure himself that he make the right decision, or asking others to make him change his mind to return N3 and get N4.
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hahaha i guess my title was misleading as i have had N3 since release date and so i just left with what i walked in with. i am sure something will happen to make me switch at some point
with the resale value of the note 3 I dont see why not if you have the upgrade available and are not in the situation of losing unlimited.
I personally love the fingerprint scanner, i thought at first it would be a gay gimmick thing and not work how I use them on laptops but its everything I wanted. I use a complex pattern normally to unlock my phone so being able to easily do the fingerprint works wonders for me. I also tend to like new ish and be with the curve (because you can never be ahead in the existing electronics industry)
just my . 02
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So what are the benefits to 64 bit in the near future? I'm running on the notion that the 64 bit note 4 won't be available for another year and widespread app support is probably another year to 2 years further down the line? I get the benefit of the 20nm process in terms of power consumption and more efficient battery use (though the Note 4 would get me through the day so does it really matter?), but are we really going to see big benefits from the 64 bit architecture before our 2 year contract is up on the note 4?
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Very true on the N5 and a whole year to enjoy the N4. Point was relative to the N3 and early upgrade expense.
64bit makes a HUGE difference without app rewrites for it. Look at the cpu power of the 5433 and the A7 and A8. It makes a huge computational difference.
That said, the only practical benefit is for game emulators for me, since they are 99% cpu driven.
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Very true on the N5 and a whole year to enjoy the N4. Point was relative to the N3 and early upgrade expense.
64bit makes a HUGE difference without app rewrites for it. Look at the cpu power of the 5433 and the A7 and A8. It makes a huge computational difference.
That said, the only practical benefit is for game emulators for me, since they are 99% cpu driven.
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Ah. Haven't really tried game emulators. I really only play cross me color. Thanks for the info!
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Very true on the N5 and a whole year to enjoy the N4. Point was relative to the N3 and early upgrade expense.
64bit makes a HUGE difference without app rewrites for it. Look at the cpu power of the 5433 and the A7 and A8. It makes a huge computational difference.
That said, the only practical benefit is for game emulators for me, since they are 99% cpu driven.
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i am in the opposite court and understand what you are saying for your needs. i remember when i use to buy new laptops every year because they just kept getting faster and i could feel the difference with each new purchase. that changed a few years ago when suddenly every upper level machine met my needs and the new ones although faster on specs wouldnt allow me to see anything new and exciting since i wouldnt be pushing them to see it.
phones like N3 have in that perspective meet my needs already and now i look for new pieces of tech like the stylus the Note series has or its IR blaster, great phablet specific features, and interaction with the rest of my Samsung electronics.
i dont know what will make me jump to a new phone these days because they havent announced what it is yet. the camera i know is better and would be nice but i just didnt see a "need" today.
i appreciate the respectful replies to this thread and as mentioned above i could sure be convinced to buy it sooner than later.
thanks
As long as your happy, all is good.
People who bashed the OP need to chill out. Many come to this particular forum to help them make a decision about buying the phone or not. This thread offers a diff perspective. It belongs here.
Like most on here, Im a phone junkie ?
I usually have 2 main devices that I use daily and it's been since launch that I've had a Nexus 6p.
When the 6p came out I bought one brand new (but from someone who upgraded third contract) so it kind of worried me as I didn't wanna get stuck with a blacklisted phone. Ended up selling the 6p for a decent profit, told said person to get a hold of me if any problems occurred (ie the phone getting blacklisted) , never heard back from the buyer.
Fast forward a couple years and after going threw 6 different phones just this year (25 last year) I always seem to want to flash a stock rom (when I can)
The problem is, there is always something wrong (bugs) and the phone never seems as smooth as it should be.
Right now I have a LG G5 , Microsoft 950 and Samsung Note 4 .
As I'm walking threw a local store and couple days ago, I see that they are selling brand new 6p for $299 (cdn) for the 32gb model. How could I pass this up??? Simple answer, I couldn't
So with them already being unlocked it really was a no brainier for me (especially since they are selling for around $350-400 on the used market here)
I was a tad concerned about the SD810 and 3gb of ram as those are mid-range specs these days and I'm used to the proformance of no lag and what not (iPhones have spoiled me)
Well being a Nexus and having stock software makes a HUGE difference as opposed to bloated software from OEMs.
My 6p is snappy and fast as hell and is faster than my G5 in everyday use, kills my Note 4 (which is no surprise) and crushes my 950.
To make a long post short, specs aren't always everything. If the software is optimized properly, backed with good hardware, you will have a smooth experience.
And also that the 6p is still a beast of a device almost 2 years after it's release.
Makes me not miss my iPhone as much
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Like most on here, Im a phone junkie ?
I usually have 2 main devices that I use daily and it's been since launch that I've had a Nexus 6p.
When the 6p came out I bought one brand new (but from someone who upgraded third contract) so it kind of worried me as I didn't wanna get stuck with a blacklisted phone. Ended up selling the 6p for a decent profit, told said person to get a hold of me if any problems occurred (ie the phone getting blacklisted) , never heard back from the buyer.
Fast forward a couple years and after going threw 6 different phones just this year (25 last year) I always seem to want to flash a stock rom (when I can)
The problem is, there is always something wrong (bugs) and the phone never seems as smooth as it should be.
Right now I have a LG G5 , Microsoft 950 and Samsung Note 4 .
As I'm walking threw a local store and couple days ago, I see that they are selling brand new 6p for $299 (cdn) for the 32gb model. How could I pass this up??? Simple answer, I couldn't
So with them already being unlocked it really was a no brainier for me (especially since they are selling for around $350-400 on the used market here)
I was a tad concerned about the SD810 and 3gb of ram as those are mid-range specs these days and I'm used to the proformance of no lag and what not (iPhones have spoiled me)
Well being a Nexus and having stock software makes a HUGE difference as opposed to bloated software from OEMs.
My 6p is snappy and fast as hell and is faster than my G5 in everyday use, kills my Note 4 (which is no surprise) and crushes my 950.
To make a long post short, specs aren't always everything. If the software is optimized properly, backed with good hardware, you will have a smooth experience.
Makes me not miss my iPhone as much
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God dam, iPhones suck ass. Haha What was the purpose of your post btw? Just to let people know you switched back to the Nexus 6p or something?
Lol iPhone are excellent!! But I will always perfer Android over ios.
The purpose was to basically say, specs don't mean ****, lol. And that the 6p is still a hell of a phone in 2017
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Lol iPhone are excellent!! But I will always perfer Android over ios.
The purpose was to basically say, specs don't mean ****, lol. And that the 6p is still a hell of a phone in 2017
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I still think iPhones are overpriced overhyped trash and do prefer android but that's a letter of opinion. I agree that specs do t always matter because it depends how resources are used and the version of software and all. However, specs still are important and do meant **** because you Can't say that phones like the oneplus 5 aren't more powerful and faster with better battery than the 6p so specs are important but at the same time it depends how the software is used by the phone maker.
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Lol iPhone are excellent!! But I will always perfer Android over ios.
The purpose was to basically say, specs don't mean ****, lol. And that the 6p is still a hell of a phone in 2017
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Couldn't agree more. As time marches on, I'm always on the lookout for a new phone. But there's always something missing, whether it's front facing speakers, beautiful screen, a great camera or snappy response. Stock Android is the best but it's also thanks to developers for their amazing work that makes this phone great, like elemental kernel and viper arise with Dolby atmos.
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I still think iPhones are overpriced overhyped trash and do prefer android but that's a letter of opinion. I agree that specs do t always matter because it depends how resources are used and the version of software and all. However, specs still are important and do meant **** because you Can't say that phones like the oneplus 5 aren't more powerful and faster with better battery than the 6p so specs are important but at the same time it depends how the software is used by the phone maker.
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It's funny that you mention One plus.
Yes new phones today come speced out (flagships) but just how much of that is a gimmick ?
Look at OnePlus, a phone with 6gb or 8gb of ram, seems crazy right? But what's the point when Android only can utilize 4gb MAX.
Processors are absolutely killer these days, no doubt. But the more intense ones with wicked gpu are just so they can play games.
I don't game on my phone, so having the most powerful SoC isn't really important to myself.
Let's look at optimized software on top as well.
When I had my Axon7 (sd 820) and S7 edge (exynos 8890) both their companies flashships at the time, I would run benchmarks and different tests to see which one was the more powerful.
On paper the Exynos would always score higher in any test I ran, but when it came to day to day use, the Axon would less laggy and feel smoother.
And all this came down to proper software optimization and less bloat.
I'm getting the same results with this 6p vs my LG G5.
The G5 is superior on paper, but the Nexus preforms better over all due to software.
Another prime example of specs not meaning much (to me anymore) is with my laptop (convertible) vs my tablet.
I use a Acer Alpha Switch 12 for my Windows option when I'm on the go, it's got 8gb of ram, core i5 (6th gen) ect. I use it to edit vids and what not.
Now I also have the 2017 iPad (the cheapest one) which has 2gb of ram and the A10 processor (the ones used in the iPhone 6s). The crazy thing? I can edit 4k video faster and smoother on my iPad than I can on my Windows machine. Crazy right?
I used to be all about specs and would always want the latest and greatest just for the sake of having it.
But once I started to use an iPhone..... Well, spces really don't mean all that much anymore
PS Hell yes iPhones are wayyyy over priced hahahaha
You just wait until Android O is dropped, I was running O DP4 for a couple weeks and I can tell it's going to make the 6p feel new again, other than the graphical lag, which is expected for a beta, it felt smooth and refined. I'm pretty excited myself for Android O
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I still think iPhones are overpriced overhyped trash and do prefer android but that's a letter of opinion. I agree that specs do t always matter because it depends how resources are used and the version of software and all. However, specs still are important and do meant **** because you Can't say that phones like the oneplus 5 aren't more powerful and faster with better battery than the 6p so specs are important but at the same time it depends how the software is used by the phone maker.
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Yeah best cpu, gpu, one of the best screens.. Total trash. Aren't pixels the same price?
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Yeah best cpu, gpu, one of the best screens.. Total trash. Aren't pixels the same price?
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Best what?! Where are you getting this false information from? Lol
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Best what?! Where are you getting this false information from? Lol
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Look at benchmarks... It is technically a dual core, doubles pretty much everything else in single core performance (which most apps run in) and matches octocore processors in multicore. Runs pretty much everything at 60fps. I sold mine because iOS was boring but no matter how much of a fanboy you are you can't deny they perform extremely well.
I grew up and realized i didn't need to be on either side, I'm not like one of those ford vs dodge morons. That's just pathetic imo
My 6P is still a great phone. Just wish Huawei used better battery and focused more on build quality. iPhone can also be great for certain people. My Dad has the iPhone SE. I'd get bored using a iPhone but he loves it because it's less complex than Android, gets very good battery life without any tweaking and has great build quality.
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Honestly if you don't really use your phone for vr apps, the iPhone 6s+ , to me, is an absolute beast. No iPhone 7 because of the nonexistent headphone jack (such a silly move).
Would I take it over my 6p? If both were unlocked ,and brand new, I could go either way and be happy with A or B.
But the fact that I picked up a brand new 6p (from a retailer) for $300 cdn ($240usd) is one hell of a deal.
The 6p will most likely be sticking with me for a year as nothing that's come out / coming out really seems all that exciting to me.