I want a new phone. I was a Z3C user but it died of some power supply issue (became dead and couldn't charge/power on for a period from 1 day up to a week).
But I love the form factor. Small yet powerful.
Still, heard too many problems. So I hope the existing users could suggest the more irritating problem after at least one month of usage.
Hopefully the problem is not a deal breaker for me...
Delay open camera with the phone "cold"
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Too slippery.
Camera app - too noisy, poor focus (Sony needs to put out an open camera2 api)
Some apps can't write to external SD, some other little things (basically phone needs root without being crippled!)
eng3 said:
Too slippery.
Camera app - too noisy, poor focus (Sony needs to put out an open camera2 api)
Some apps can't write to external SD, some other little things (basically phone needs root without being crippled!)
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Some apps can't write to external SD? That's not a Z5 compact or even a Sony problem. That's Google's fault actually. Atleast sony allows its system apps and file commander to write to sd card
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Some apps can't write to external SD? That's not a Z5 compact or even a Sony problem. That's Google's fault actually. Atleast sony allows its system apps and file commander to write to sd card
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I understand, that's why I wrote (phone needs root)
Too bad, I thought the Z5 compact has got the best combination of hardware and size for me, only to be crippled by the software...
- slippery chasis - fixed by silicone case
- long camera init
- no series mode for camera
- Very slow opening of camera app
- Fingerprint sensor doesn't function well when you're hands are even only a bit sweaty/wet (very irritating during workouts, when you want to look at the screen every now and then)
Other problems (slow response times, random reboots) seem to have been solved with the latest firmware.
- The back of my phone gets super hot.
- The phone lags, if I'm playing a game & some one tries to call me, the phone locks up.
- It's slippery... But it is sexy.
- Camera is slow to open.
- Album is slow to open.
- I've had the phone for 2 weeks & the head phone jack seems to be broken & not recognising headsets properly.
- Has fast charge capabilities apparently, just doesn't come with a fast charger.
- Supplied head set is junk, it's uncomfortable & doesn't have volume control.
- My 1St experience with the Sony Back Up & Restore software was terrible.
i hate the most that there is no cm for it yet.
Software - phone feels slower than my Nexus 5
Camera - I really miss HDR+ mode, sometimes shots are great sometimes really bad
lokto7 said:
Too bad, I thought the Z5 compact has got the best combination of hardware and size for me, only to be crippled by the software...
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Don't listen to them. I've been used it for 2 weeks and the latest OTA been fixed many stuffs and I don't experience any lag or slow camera now.
The only bugged me thing it gets hot during medium/heavy load but still in acceptable range(not as hot as Z3+) consider it is a SD810, other problems are minimum on this phone. Battery performance is about the same with my Z1c, I think it won't be as good as Z3c but still fine. Camera got very slightly quality improvement(mainly better color and WB, details is just about the same with Z1c/Z3c little better) but the focus performance way better than Z1c/Z3c.
My previous phone is / was a Z1C and I jumped over to a Z3C when they came and sent it back disappointed. It felt cheap, plasticky, lighter than the Z1C I was used to. IMO Sony was going the wrong direction with those rounded hard plastic cover corners.
I got the Z5C and I sumit the opinion that all those trends have been reversed and the Z5C is as good if not better in terms of stability and build quality. The sturdy edge running around the Z5C that tives it the odd boxy look feels reassuringly solid.
What sucks? Hmm. I dearly miss root and Exposed, but then again many things that I absolutely NEEDED root for back then can now be accomplished by different apps that dont need root or have made their way as official features into stock (backup&restore or rather Xperia Transfer instead if TiBackup, being able to hide app icons, turn off bloatware etc). It's readjustment for me, using diff tools instead of one TiBackup procedure. But after a while everything is set up for me and right now there is not one single "killer feature" of being rooted that I have to admit missing daily. So i guess I will wait it out.
Phone slippery? I think the edge is just fine to hold and no worse than other phones.
Camera starting slow? Well, if that is slow, how fast is fast? I can't see how it lags in any way... app comes in an blink of an eye.
The biggest disappointment regarding my phone upgrade... well probably that it is another Z-Series. The supposed leaks (or maybe more fanboy fiction specs) pointed to a killer phone, i really thought Sony would pull the Z-Series or slim it down and go for a revival of the P-Series. Or maybe it is still upcoming in Q1/16. I would trade any Z-Series for the P2 if it lives up to the rumours...
What I hate is the PSN / XPeria Lounge / Sociallife / blabla related bloatcrap. But since basically anything in that category can be disabled in App-Manager I don't lose sleep over it.
Mine is a minor headache and it's Android's fault not Sony's. There should be a palm detection. Phone has small side bezels and the narrow width are awesome for my small hands but when hold firmly one handed and reaching my thumb across the screen, my palm hits the screen sometimes...
- really bad position of the volume button
- too slippery (won't use it without a case)
- using speaker during calls is horrible for the other party even with low volume
- no root without loosing DRM keys (yet)
so far, nothing else to complain about
My complaint is unforgivable. It's that I can't put my phone down because I enjoy it too much ?
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I was considering buying the Z5C but after finding out that the fingerprint reader cannot be used by any third-party app at the moment I decided to hold off. Apparently Sony hasn't provided an API for the fingerprint reader so apps like Lastpass can't hook in. As a Samsung GS6 user, this is hard to go back to. Once you get used to using your finger to log into apps and websites it feels archaic to go back to typing, not to mention PITA. Once they upgrade to Marshmallow the problem is likely to go away because hopefully Sony will use the built-in fingerprint reader code which already provides an API that is already utilised/supported by Lastpass etc. Just noting.
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Hi folks,
Seeing as though i'm one of the first people in the world to get my hands on the device, thought i'd share my opinions and some pictures compared to last years model.
This is the 16GB, WIFI only version purchased from my local Sony store - received 5 this morning.
I was allowed to test the model in the store first, initial drawback was the lack of a micro USB port. You connect the USB through the proprietary slot at the bottom of the device.
I've attached 3 pics of the device out in full sunlight with brightness turned right up.
The device is very responsive and almost lagfree - it's a huge improvement on the Tablet S from last year.
Price is indeed slightly high, but I think it's worth it to say the least.
For me the cons are the power/volume rocker buttons, they are quite stiff and a little far out of the body - quite visible, the other is the lack of micro USB port.
Best improvement is the location of the speakers, now at the bottom of the device, no longer have to cup my hand so it doesn't block the speakers. Looks like Sony are making more of an effort with this device.
Device is lightweight, has a very nice feel and finish to it - good build quality in my opinion.
The device is supposed to be some 20grams lighter but becuase of the aluminium casing at the back, it actually feels heavier than the Tab S.
Screen rotates in all directions. Ability to add widgets as a small app is awesome.
The general look of android on here is fantastic, I love the icons, fair few pre-installed apps too. Feels even better to hold in portrait mode. Feels heavier in landscape mode but lighter in portrait mode. On screen keyboard is responsive.
If you where like me and unsure whether to buy it - I took a gable and it's paid off.
Unlike the Tab S, i've yet to find any bugs in the firmware like the WIFI drop. Quality from rear facing camera is fantastic.
Infact - upon restarting the device, i've just received an OTA which adds more small aps, ability to install smalls apps distributed from Google Play, support write access to SDCard from applications by other companies. Enhanced clipboard function and supports progressive download from Video Unlimited.
This is after 5minutes of playing around - anyone want to know anything just post or send a PM!
My conclusion - I sold my Nexus 7 to part pay for this, did I regret it, not one bloody bit. This is a stunning device, i'd be suprised if it did as bad as the Tab S did.
Few questions:
How's the speaker volume compared with original S?
Any flickering issue while running YouTube or any other app?
How's the default browser?
In 16gb model, how much is available?
Gameloft's latest games are compatible? Can see in market?
Could you try PS3 controller, if you have?
- Speaker quality is alot better than the Tab S and the volume is quite a bit louder.
- No screen flicker.
- Default browser is a lot more responsive and smoother. Chrome is also installed by default aswell as the ICS browser. Flash included.
- Out of the 16GB, I have 10GB available, 80MB is taken up with generic music and videos etc which can be deleted.
- Gameloft games seem to appear, Nova 3, Dark Knight Rises, Modern Combat 3, Men In Black, Asphalt 7 etc.
Don't have a PS3 controller, sorry!
Can't see the PS Store that the Tab 7 had, thought that was included?
Swiping apps from the recent apps tab is very smooth, could almost be JellyBean!
Google Maps is smooth, I like the Walkman app and the Scrapbook.
Very pleased with the device, I really like the Sony native apps. Well done Sony, pulled of a stunner here.
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- Speaker quality is alot better than the Tab S and the volume is quite a bit louder.
- No screen flicker.
- Default browser is a lot more responsive and smoother. Chrome is also installed by default aswell as the ICS browser. Flash included.
- Out of the 16GB, I have 10GB available, 80MB is taken up with generic music and videos etc which can be deleted.
- Gameloft games seem to appear, Nova 3, Dark Knight Rises, Modern Combat 3, Men In Black, Asphalt 7 etc.
Don't have a PS3 controller, sorry!
Can't see the PS Store that the Tab 7 had, thought that was included?
Swiping apps from the recent apps tab is very smooth, could almost be JellyBean!
Google Maps is smooth, I like the Walkman app and the Scrapbook.
Very pleased with the device, I really like the Sony native apps. Well done Sony, pulled of a stunner here.
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Thanks, waiting for its release in Singapore !!
I can't see the app I saw in a Youtube video where you could fling tv programs off the screen and it would change the channel, it wasn't the remote control.
Thought there was a PS Store too for games or is this not PS certified?
I'll be picking this up this weekend. Happy with what I've heard so far. Sold my Tablet S today.
Have just tried playing a 1080p HD movie in the native video player.
Works flawless, didn't need to convert or anything! Unlike the previous tablet - good to see they've learnt from their mistakes, coupled with this, the screen is fantastic and so is the speaker quality.
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Have just tried playing a 1080p HD movie in the native video player.
Works flawless, didn't need to convert or anything! Unlike the previous tablet - good to see they've learnt from their mistakes, coupled with this, the screen is fantastic and so is the speaker quality.
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Planning to buy any accessories?
sent from the BEaST Galaxy S3
Wanted the HDMI cable adapter but it's 15£!
Would like the keyboard cover when released and I have the money.
This is a really awesome device.
Although i've tried logging into the Social Life app, but it just produces an error, grr.
Can you do a quick run of Antutu and Quadrant benchmark please ?
Also would love to see some sample photos taken by the rear camera.
Quadrant = 4422.
Antutu = 11463.
Pictures attached, I do admit that one was point slightly into the sun.
Looks good so far. Do you notice any significant improvement in the battery life?
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As soon as the device arrived, I charged it to 100%, it's been on for 24hr nows and it's only at 77%.
The battery drop overnight whilst on standby was just 2% - so yes, big difference, for me at least.
Is elastic scrolling and local search still available?
How bout WiFi direct?
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Hi there ..
Can yo give us a Specific informations about the Antutu benchmark .. ?
a photo with detailed score would be OK .. =)
Also , are yo a gaming Fan , and have yo tried any game .. ??
about the Lack of USB , I've heard it has a port on the Bottom which yo could use as an HDMI port , USB port , or a Charger adapter .. :>
look here :
http://blog.sony.com/tag/xperia-tablet-s
how is the Flash support too .. ?
Open this web page in your browser in the Tablet .. and click on download on step 4..
http://helpx.adobe.com/flash-player/kb/find-version-flash-player.html
It will open like a " hidden app " in the market which yo can use to download the flash player ..
Let us know how it goes .. and specially for the flash player ..
thanks ... :>
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As soon as the device arrived, I charged it to 100%, it's been on for 24hr nows and it's only at 77%.
The battery drop overnight whilst on standby was just 2% - so yes, big difference, for me at least.
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That is impressive if its with the Wifi "on" the whole time. No wifi disconect issue i presume?
Update..
of what I've seen, it needs a specific accessory " like 4 inches cable " to support HDMI AND USB port ( 2 in 1 )
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I just bought the tablet today.
It's an amazing unit.
My only complaint?
It's not compatible to ntfs devices. I bought the media stand with 3 usb ports and none of them read ntfs.
I called sony and they said because ntfs is owned by microsoft that android will not allow ntfs devices, which is a load of crap, but however, it's a great device otherwise. I tried the asus tablets with the docking keyboard and would have enjoyed keeping that model but they have screen issues which doesn't bode well with me especially when paying over $500 for a stinking unit.
I hope to root this device to mount ntfs drives, but for now will have to make due with fat32. I don't want to return it because it's exactly what I want.
Any idea when the keyboard case will be out and the cost?
I'd think about one of these if it has an unlockable boot loader and some devs hop onboard. Its basically the same problem I have with the new amazon tablets. I have a nexus 7 right now and I like it but I quite like how the tablet s has an ir emitter. Too bad my bravia doesn't have WiFi either. Couldn't afford it.
Someone with one should check and see if the boot loader can be unlocked.
I've had my fair share of smartphones, all with ups and downs, but I'd like to think that the 10 is pretty close to being the perfect phone. I want to know what you guys think, as fellow owners. I'll give you a rundown of my most recent phones that I'm comparing to.
Nexus 6p
Nexus 5x
Galaxy s7
Moto X Pure
Droid Turbo 2
Droid Turbo
Thanks for your input!! [emoji16]
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I should also mention that I've got mine rooted, (thanks @jcase!) along with my unlimited data.
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charklos said:
I should also mention that I've got mine rooted, (thanks @jcase!) along with my unlimited data.
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I enjoy the phone, dev scene should go up soon with our next. Sunshine release
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I enjoy the phone, dev scene should go up soon with our next. Sunshine release
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Sounds promising!! I can't wait to free my phone!!
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Being away from the android market for some time now the m9 be my return phone and 10 my current I'd say it's pretty solid. Androids come a long way since the early days.
In case you can't see below signature, I've had a handful of HTC handsets since the Incredible and tested still more. The 10 is the best they've ever put out. I'm finding it snappy; love the sound with headphones and don't mind the loss of stereo via the speaker. I don't know how I lived without a fingerprint scanner and I have always been partial to hardware buttons. I've never tried a Nexus both because they aren't always available for Verizon and they never take removable storage which is a deal breaker for me.
My first smartphone was the droid eris and i only purchased it because it was able to be s-off'ed. Then i upgraded to htc incredible 2 which was quite an upgrade, then i jumped to the SGS III. Then i bought the M8 which was a good phone, but had such a horrible camera. I think HTC nailed this phone and i never thought how much i love the fingerprint scanner. Never been a fan of encrypting a phone, but how its default now. I have to say its going pretty well. Now that sunshine has been updated to allow unlocking without mail in, I think the development will get even better. I can't wait to flash a AOSP ROM.
I'm loving it. It's definitely a step up from the m9 in my opinion. Better battery life, screen and camera. My only complaints are about the keyboard (screw TouchPal) and the audio isn't quite as loud as the m9.
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Best phone I've ever owned. Best unlocked bootloader currently available. With expandable storage, it's even preferable to the new HTC Nexus Marlin, in my opinion.
Major cons: screen is C-grade. Maybe C+. It's not very bright, and mine has a reddish tint. Also the phone isn't as loud as I'd wish.
Major pros: best unlocked phone available. Expandable storage. Great metal unibody. Great design all around. Great sound quality.
Truly, truly the best phone I've owned in my personal opinion. I thought the Nexus 6P was fantastic until I got the HTC 10; and although the Nexus 6P is obviously cheaper, the difference in quality had me quite in shock. Only complaint is the abysmal speaker volume, miss the boomsound from the M8.
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Best phone I've ever owned. Best unlocked bootloader currently available. With expandable storage, it's even preferable to the new HTC Nexus Marlin, in my opinion.
Major cons: screen is C-grade. Maybe C+. It's not very bright, and mine has a reddish tint. Also the phone isn't as loud as I'd wish.
Major pros: best unlocked phone available. Expandable storage. Great metal unibody. Great design all around. Great sound quality.
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You can manually change the screen temperature settings.
Settings>Display, gestures & buttons>Color Profile.
I agree with you on the volume level though.
I started out as one of the biggest defenders of this phone but I've slowly been disappointed due to a few quirks listed below. However, it still stands as a fantastic phone. It's proven to me that Android has matured to the point I don't need root and custom ROMS.
- Polarized LCD Panel: Sharp but still washed out next to AMOLED. Also can't see it with my polarized shades on.
- SD Card Mount Issues: I have a 200gb microSD. I've replaced both the phone and the SD card. Still get unmount need to reformat errors which are incredibly annoying to deal with when I have 140gb of music locally.
- Random slowdowns: Happening more and more frequently where I have to start going in and force stopping apps and rebooting the entire phone.
- Screen Randomly Waking: I've had so many butt dials and funky texts sent out to people because this will wake up in my pocket even after I've completely disabled touch to wake.
- Dropped Signal: I'll have to randomly switch off both Cell and WiFi to get signal sometimes
- Android Auto: It just won't work some days. Works just fine with other USB C phones.
- Sexiness: Yeah, maybe I'm shallow but I don't think this is nearly as clean as the M7 was. It's still a great looking phone but after putting it in a very thin, clear TPU case it really lost its value. Coming from a Droid Turbo that never needed a case this was a big thing. My work iPhone 6S in the identical case still maintains a great look.
- AOSP Support: This will come, however, I'd like to have it be more supported. For this reason alone I think I'll hold off on BL unlock and sell the device for the new Pixel phone.
Battery: Not awful by any means but also not great. QC, though, is a god send.
I have not BL unlocked the device but I'm simply waiting only due to the new Pixel phones releasing next month as I may just sell and upgrade to one of those. It's kind of unfair to compare this unrooted device to my BL unlocked Droid Turbo but with custom software that SD805 phone was about 90% as fast as this device while feeling better in the hand and better battery life to boot. In hindsight, I should have held on to that longer and waited for the Pixel to upgrade.
I sound like I'm really dragging the phone down but I'm still a, mostly, happy user
What do you mean that QC is a godsend. Would love to improve my phone's battery life.
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What do you mean that QC is a godsend. Would love to improve my phone's battery life.
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I think he is referring to the QC quick charge 3.0
pjd2011 said:
I started out as one of the biggest defenders of this phone but I've slowly been disappointed due to a few quirks listed below. However, it still stands as a fantastic phone. It's proven to me that Android has matured to the point I don't need root and custom ROMS.
- Polarized LCD Panel: Sharp but still washed out next to AMOLED. Also can't see it with my polarized shades on.
- SD Card Mount Issues: I have a 200gb microSD. I've replaced both the phone and the SD card. Still get unmount need to reformat errors which are incredibly annoying to deal with when I have 140gb of music locally.
- Random slowdowns: Happening more and more frequently where I have to start going in and force stopping apps and rebooting the entire phone.
- Screen Randomly Waking: I've had so many butt dials and funky texts sent out to people because this will wake up in my pocket even after I've completely disabled touch to wake.
- Dropped Signal: I'll have to randomly switch off both Cell and WiFi to get signal sometimes
- Android Auto: It just won't work some days. Works just fine with other USB C phones.
- Sexiness: Yeah, maybe I'm shallow but I don't think this is nearly as clean as the M7 was. It's still a great looking phone but after putting it in a very thin, clear TPU case it really lost its value. Coming from a Droid Turbo that never needed a case this was a big thing. My work iPhone 6S in the identical case still maintains a great look.
- AOSP Support: This will come, however, I'd like to have it be more supported. For this reason alone I think I'll hold off on BL unlock and sell the device for the new Pixel phone.
Battery: Not awful by any means but also not great. QC, though, is a god send.
I have not BL unlocked the device but I'm simply waiting only due to the new Pixel phones releasing next month as I may just sell and upgrade to one of those. It's kind of unfair to compare this unrooted device to my BL unlocked Droid Turbo but with custom software that SD805 phone was about 90% as fast as this device while feeling better in the hand and better battery life to boot. In hindsight, I should have held on to that longer and waited for the Pixel to upgrade.
I sound like I'm really dragging the phone down but I'm still a, mostly, happy user
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- Polarized LCD Panel: it's part of the LCD tech. Only alternative would be to AMOLED but LCD has natural/neutral colors and "smooth" pixels versus AMOLED in which you can see individual LEDs/pixels and purple smears on black/gray colors. It's a matter of preference really.
- SD Card Mount Issues: not sure why you're having so many SD card errors. Perhaps it's formatted as internal or something else? No SD card issues with the majority of us.
- Random slowdowns: Definitely a rogue app! Haven't had slowdowns like that since 2011 flagships.
- Screen Randomly Waking: Strange as the phone will never wake unless you hit the power button (with DT2W disabled in your case)
- Dropped Signal: have you tried formatting? Doesn't sound normal for a phone to behave like that.
- Android Auto: I don't use it so I wouldn't know, as I just use Maps.
- Sexiness: Again, preferences.
- AOSP Support: Thankfully, Sense is now closer to AOSP than ever, without the boringness/plainness of AOSP that nexuses have. It actually has some neat additional features that lack in AOSP.
Battery: I find battery to be great given it's only a 3000 mAh. It's not as good as my previous Droid Turbo(3900 mAh) but the QC 3.0 make up for it.
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- Polarized LCD Panel: it's part of the LCD tech. Only alternative would be to AMOLED but LCD has natural/neutral colors and "smooth" pixels versus AMOLED in which you can see individual LEDs/pixels and purple smears on black/gray colors. It's a matter of preference really.
- SD Card Mount Issues: not sure why you're having so many SD card errors. Perhaps it's formatted as internal or something else? No SD card issues with the majority of us.
- Random slowdowns: Definitely a rogue app! Haven't had slowdowns like that since 2011 flagships.
- Screen Randomly Waking: Strange as the phone will never wake unless you hit the power button (with DT2W disabled in your case)
- Dropped Signal: have you tried formatting? Doesn't sound normal for a phone to behave like that.
- AOSP Support: Thankfully, Sense is now closer to AOSP than ever, without the boringness/plainness of AOSP that nexuses have. It actually has some neat additional features that lack in AOSP.
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Yeah, Quick Charge definitely makes up for any difference in battery compared to the Turbo.
As for the signal, it's definitely a rogue issue but I find myself having to enter and exit airplane mode more and more frequently to gain 4G. Usually I'd only have this problem on AOSP Roms on non-Nexus devices.
The screen randomly waking is just flat out annoying. Especially on runs. Accidentally called my CIO the other day when my phone was locked and in my pocket....Not good.
The SD card issue truly is my biggest complaints as I wanted to have this device for my music. I left on a week long vacation and just before boarding my flight I lost all my music. Incredibly annoying and it's always been set as external storage. When attempting to use internal I get the same issue (when testing).
As for the LCD I understand it's complete preference but other LCD panels I've used did not have this issue. When you're out on a boat and in the sun as much as I am you're always wearing polarized glasses. This thing is unreadable out in the daylight.
I don't have issues with signal, or really anything. I would say main grip (minimal) is Wi-Fi does drain battery more than LTE. I will say it's a lot better with custom sense Tom though.
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I'm going on my 2nd day with the HTC 10 and I can say I'm pleasantly surprised. After being a Samsung junky coming from a S7 Edge and then the Note 7 I can honestly say I am very pleased with my switch to HTC. I've owned nearly every Samsung flagship since the Note 3. Everything has been working great for me and the near AOSP compared to TouchWiz is great. The camera isn't much of a downgrade from Samsung at all and that really makes me happy. I've been using the phone caseless until mine comes in the mail tomorrow so I've really gotten a good feel for the phone. It handles well and is built nice. I S-Offed and rooted shortly after I got the phone and have zero regrets on the switch. I just wish I did it sooner and I would have saved a bunch of cash from phone switching. Nice job HTC with the build and @jcase and the team for root.
Horrible device, would definitely not recommend this to anyone. Uses a crazy amount of data that the phone doesn't seem to be registering (according to my cell phone I went through 1.2GB of data, the phone is showing 133MB). Battery life is beyond horrible (yes everything possible is disabled -- not syncing, not using photo sync, not using backup, disabled all gestures, turned off all google now/google anything services, screen is set to dim just enough to barely see it). Just using KIK for 20 minutes yesterday I lost 10% battery (no joke). Wifi is still buggy, even after the 186 firmware update. Can't tell if its Marshmallow in general or HTC's garbage services that is causing all these problems. There are so many little annoying things with the Verizon build too -- default email app doesn't resize HTML messages so everything is HUGE, the power toggle widget sucks -- you click wifi which normally turns it on/off but it instead brings you to the wifi settings where you then have to manually turn it on/off, things like this that I have to deal with daily is slowly driving me crazy. Going back to my old device until my data gets the monthly reset, then I'll try some custom ROMs to see if it helps with these issues.
Honestly, the only good feature on this phone is the fingerprint scanner. It did make me realize how much I love my little Razr M which I would go through a full day of use and still only be at 90-85% battery.
OK. So I'm sure as this tab gets out there more and more, there will be rumblings and grumblings with this generally awesome device. I've had mine (SHT-AL09) for three weeks here in the U.S. and while overall I am very happy, nothing is above some criticism and there are some things I could use some help with.
I've already mentioned in another thread having issues with the position of the volume rocker and power button as well as the overall shape. This device is not boxxy like the X2 I'm replacing and it takes some getting used to.
With this, I am deathly afraid of dropping it because of the shape. I did buy a folio wallet; but ultimately, I want a semi stiff gel case to absorb some shock. I have ordered one from China; but it looks like it could take up to 6 weeks to get it here in the US. So, I can use any advice or links for a gel case for this tab in the US. Also any recommendations for a quality gel case is likewise desired.
Secondly, this tab annoyingly begins playing music ANY TIME it connects to a blue tooth device (not sure if this is Huawei or Android.) This is real annoying when I get into my car first thing in the morning and I am met with Ronnie James Dio blaring at me before I've had my coffee. Anyone know how I can stop this from happening? My sanity demands it (BTW, deleting RJD from my library is not an option.)
Otherwise, I'm loving this tab and totally psyched to have a giant screen with LTE capability and a dialer!! Hopefully, this will set a trend and show the world we are a market best not ignored.
I had been having trouble getting Aquamail to activate the LED indicator on new messages. Supposedly, Huawei is known to make it hard for non-stock apps to activate the LED. However, in this case I eventually realized that the issue was that the LED didn't support the light blue color that was set by default in Aquamail. I changed it to red and new e-mails now trigger the LED.
I have noticed that when I adjust screen brightness via a 3rd party app - i.e. HD Widgets or Setting Profiles Lite - the screen brightness reverts to something different after I turn the screen off and back on again. This might not turn out to be an annoyance, as I kind of like the way auto brightness works on this device.
Is this thing supposed to be VOLTE capable? If so, I imagine it can be enabled via the build.prop file. I don't get VOLTE, nothing I care about too much but it would be nice.
I'd love to be able to customize the appearance/structure of the notification bar and quick settings. I used 'Color Status Bar' for this on my Sony Z3TC and it worked really well. It doesn't seem to work with Oreo.
What opens up automatically to play music when you connect a bluetooth device? That has gotta be an easy problem to solve. Also, I think it has to do with your car stereo more than anything else.
Hey, it's the stock music player. I tried changing the default music player but the stock one still starts playing every time I connect to my car radio. I heard there is a third party app to address this but I'd prefer to stay within the stock system if possible.
What I really find annoying is the bug with keyboard attached: Brightness Controll pops up randomly, interrupting my typing ... really annoying ...
(M5 Pro, Germany)
There are some differences between emui 8 on the M5 and emui 8 on the Mate SE. Didn't expect that. Not pleased about it, as they are things that get used frequently. An AOSP rom would change that of course.
I didn't find the sharp edges very comfortable when typing. Found a soft tpu case that makes things a lot better. Not a fan that the main camera sticks out a bit which seems like it would get damaged when putting the tablet down on a hard surface. Again, the case helped with that.
Didn't like that the navbar was eating up screen space but found an option to use the finger print scanner as the nav bar, which I prefer after getting used to it.
Overall I'm enjoying the tablet, love the display.
Okay, since we're airing grievances
I think the design of their hardware for phones is awesome, works perfectly. I don't think the same design translates to tablets. Tablets are held and used differently than phones, thus need an appropriate sized bezel, weight etc.
Just my .02
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Okay, since we're airing grievances
I think the design of their hardware for phones is awesome, works perfectly. I don't think the same design translates to tablets. Tablets are held and used differently than phones, thus need an appropriate sized bezel, weight etc.
Just my .02
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I generally agree - but really the only thing I would change on the 8.4 version is the placement of the fingerprint sensor, which is too easy to press on accident when holding the tablet in landscape orientation and typing or what not. It should be nearly to the far right of the tab's bottom area, not dead center.
And really, this would be obvious to any ux designer testing the product, the problem is there is too much emphasis on blindly copying Apple and Samsung. Apple is a cult and Samsung makes extremely high quality hardware that isn't always user friendly.
My two issues right now is that 3rd Party Music apps don't show the album cover and stuff on the lockscreen. And that my device vibrates like twice after rebooting it.
Couldn't find a workaround so far
Here's a minor annoyance - try sending a text message to a number without typing a '1' before the number...you'll get an error message: '(555) 555-5555' is not a valid recipient.' Instead, you have to type out 1-555-555-5555.
Just checkng in. Brought this up when I started the thread, but has anyone found a way to stop the stock music player from starting up every time the tab is connected to any bluetooth audio device?
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Just checkng in. Brought this up when I started the thread, but has anyone found a way to stop the stock music player from starting up every time the tab is connected to any bluetooth audio device?
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Music doesn't start playing automatically for me when I connect bluetooth headphones. Maybe it has to do with my config.
Here are some threads that might help you:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mate-10/help/bt-auto-plays-music-t3700769
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mate-10/help/disable-stock-music-player-stop-auto-t3718770
No updates since March on my M5 8.4" Uk wifi?? WTF Huawei, you never change
@kedge probaly you would like to have a look at HFF, there are several new updates available. Either do a manual update using HFF or wait another few days until the update arrives via OTA.
Only update there seems since the one I have is 151 but not approved.
Still really not a good sign not having monthly security updates.
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Only update there seems since the one I have is 151 but not approved.
Still really not a good sign not having monthly security updates.
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Inviato dal mio CMR-AL09 utilizzando Tapatalk
Anyone got any opinions on the screen/ratio for reading pdfs and web browsing? I'm on the fence about getting one of these.
I have firmware version .122 i found on FF that there is .123 available and approved for install so i use vpn to force update but during install it fails at few percent that it failed to verify. What to do?
Thanks
Also does the storage option for SD install of apps do something?
Still not able to figure out how to stop the damned music app from blaring every time I connect via bluetooth to my car stereo. I'm thinking the problem may be at the car stereo end as others are not having this issue. My latest nuisance is constantly turning on the screen accidentally. Wondering if there is any way to customize the screen wake up options. Maybe changing the behavior of the front facing button or something else. I was also having problems with applications shutting down mid text while using a third party keyboard. (Swype.) I finally had to delete the keyboard and go back to stock.
So for me the screen density was driving me nuts. Everything was way bigger than my previous tablet, even after setting the view mode to "small".
I fixed this by going into developer options and setting the smallest width to 750. More fits on the screen now. Much better.
Hi,
I noticed my xperia 1 mark III is overheating even in normal use, especially in 120Hz mode. I hope sony will fix it as this device is really scalding.
It really burns!
This is the hottest device I ever had
Software version: 61.0.A.11.23
You're burning up your battery. Time is of the essence, resolve this issue fast. Shutdown the phone if it gets too hot!!!
Auto thermal shutdown may not protect the display/mobo especially if in hot ambient temperatures, in direct sunlight, or when charging.
Keep brightness at 50% or less.
Factory reset.
If that fails...
Find the apks or/and services causing to high drain.
If that fails, return the device.
The clock is ticking, Mr Wick tic-tok...
This is a serious problem. I took some photos and videos (4k and slowmotion) while standing in the sun. Outside temperature was about 23°C (73°F). After about 5 minutes I got an overheat message.
An app that I installed earlier registered an internal temperature of 40.5°c. It felt really hot to (while in a bumper case).
After I put the phone on a granite kitchen table it cooled down in about 10 minutes.
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This is a serious problem. I took some photos and videos (4k and slowmotion) while standing in the sun. Outside temperature was about 23°C (73°F). After about 5 minutes I got an overheat message.
An app that I installed earlier registered an internal temperature of 40.5°c. It felt really hot to (while in a bumper case).
After I put the phone on a granite kitchen table it cooled down in about 10 minutes.
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It is serious. Turn off the phone when it feels very warm before it goes over temperature.
Using a AMOLED display in direct sunlight is never a good plan. Limit it to seconds of use.
I have had this same problem since I got it to the point where I got an alert that some apps would be shutdown.
US Version purchased from Adoroma in the states : 61.0.A.11.23
Just another aggravating issue with this phone. Some are having boot loops of a sort also! What is wrong with these companies? Can they not produce a decent product anymore? 1300.00 and it's junk???????????
I am getting overheating as well, a little warm most of the time I use the phone.
Definitely was the 120hz display turned on. Less warm when the 60.
When using the wireless charger.
Anytime I use the cameras.
I am on the latest update as well.
Hm, very intriguing issue with $1300 flagship smartphone from such a respectable brand. I had similar problem with Xperia 1 II in several occasions. And... I think I know what's the problem (not bloody hot SD888 as you might suggest!). Please have a good look at dissasembly video:
Then compare it with $390 LG V60 ThinQ disassembly video from the same guy. Spot the difference! And it is - missing cooling system on Xperia 1 II / 1 III whereas LG V60 has quite big copper vapour chamber! Maybe that's why my LG V60 never gets really hot. So the question is ... WTF are you doing SONY?!
Well, I just sent back my first Pixel - 5A - for overheating. I have been watching the 1 iii and the 5 iii as a possible purchase...but I am turned off by the dedicated assistant button that might possibly be remappable... but for sure I will NOT buy either of these mark 3 phones if they overheat! Makes me sick just how badly most new phones are functioning.
Yeah same, it seems to turn off randomly when using the cameras and when 120HZ screen is on.
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Yeah same, it seems to turn off randomly when using the cameras and when 120HZ screen is on.
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I think it's the case for warranty replacement or even return if possible. This is one of the reason why I don't buy expensive brand new phones parallel imported (not officially sold in my country). Just because it means no proper warranty, no service, no nothing.
My Xperia 1 III is getting extremely hot even when taking photos (only 2-3) then get message about hot temperature and apps shutting down.
I use Streamlabs mostly (sometimes Prism) to broadcast to YouTube, foundthe phone almost useless! Overheating in seconds from start of s stream! I'm using my old Samsung Note 10 again as Sony wasn't simply useful.
Now I found a solution to it (sorry solution is too big word)
- I've turned "object tracking" off in camera
- I've turned autofocus on in camera
- I've turned 120hz off
Today we had hot day here in UK (27 Celcius ) I did my tests.
Streamlabs at 1080p , 7000kbps , 30fps run outdoor for about an hour smoothly. Connected to charger started to overheat.
Not to mention that tethering makes it hot quickly (so with Samsung).
Prism at 1080p 60fps run smoothly for couple of minutes and then crashed.
Didn't connect the charger.
I use Streamlabs to transmit 5-6 hours of stream into YouTube using mobile network in most if the times and whilst driving (so changing stations constantly)
I found that using WiFi it doesn't get as hot.
Also charging makes it very hot - SONY advertised it as able to by powered directly by a charger without charging battery, how and where do I find that option?
Is it available using car charger with quick charge 3.0?
I like the phone , like the shape , size and feel to it. Camera is OK (I own Sony a6500 )
Hate the fact of poor selfie camera in such expensive phone (I do live streams using selfie cam too)
Right I've ordered a return of my phone and have 30 days to send it back what alternatives do I have? Really like the SONY if it wasn't overheating I'd love it. Is there a solution to it? Cooler anything?
The things I like about the phone are:
*shape and overall feel in hand
*Cameras are ok don't really see if they great quality or not will still use my a6500 camera.
*Like the fact that can use sd card
*Love finger print reader in power button and seperate camera button
*like the fact that there's no rounded edges - hate them in my Samsung Note
I blame my problems with overheating by poorly made apps not the phone itself and not sure changing the phone will change it.
What are the options should I consider? Samsung S21 Ultra ? iPhone 12,13?
I'm a SONY fan and had many if their phones and that's why I'm looking for a solution otherwise would send it back straight away...
Can anyone help me with my problem?
Many thanks
Bart
Unfortunately greedy sony didn't provide any cooling solution to mark 3... Check disassembly videos, there is no any cooling solution at all, like you will find in asus - small vapor chamber etc. Literally nothing!
They knew snap 888 is overheating. They must have tested this device before releasing it, isn't it?
But no, still didn't apply any cooling solution. And that's a big shame and huge problem of this device.
Not sure if qualcomm provide any updated drivers to assess this problem or not. Or if sony will try to fix it. So far they did nothing and still it overheats. Mine too and you are right by saying that on 3G/5G it is hotter than on wifi.
I wonder how they can market battery as capable and better for 3 years with such hot device. Temperature of course has huge negative impact on battery longevity.
Sad but true
I'm quite shocked! Thanks for the info about disassembly videos...
I'm thinking if getting a cooler which you attach to the body.
What I forgot to mention that cameras itself (the lenses) don't get that hot is the area under them and closer to the centre. So must be processor and lack of cooling system.
Not sure what to do...
We have a hot weather now so I will test it intensively (if I was a Sony tester I'd never allow for the phone to be released like this).
Heating problems is why I keep saying that for any SOC/CPU/GPU manufacturer to keep upping the speeds of these things is STUPID! I can virtually guarantee that from now on every new CPU produced by all OEM's is going to overheat! Have you ever walked into a data center, with hundreds of servers running? You have to wear ear protection because the roar of all the internal cooling fans is deafening!
So then "we" attempt to put similar CPU's inside a device the size of a small remote control WITHOUT a fan and wonder why it overheats? There are only so many ways to keep the phone(s) cool. Use them while frozen solid in a block of ice, or better yet, stop running so many CPU/GPU intensive apps all at the same time. It's simple thermodynamics at work here. The more you have running at the same time, the harder the SOC needs to work, the hotter it is going to run. Another solution, that is literally unacceptable to most people, is to code in a lowering of the speed of the SOC. If this needs to be done then it becomes very clear that building a new, faster SOC every year is STUPID!
One more thing... I've heard that Xperia 1III is capable of powering the phone directly without battery charging to lower the heat...Does anyone know how do I turn this future on?
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One more thing... I've heard that Xperia 1III is capable of powering the phone directly without battery charging to lower the heat...Does anyone know how do I turn this future on?
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This is applicable with the game enhancer. You can add some apps there and when you open it, you can enable HS power control. Also sony just release a new firmware that answer you with this issue.. you can check my video
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One more thing... I've heard that Xperia 1III is capable of powering the phone directly without battery charging to lower the heat...Does anyone know how do I turn this future on?
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Have to sit at the outlet all the time? or how will this happen?
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This is applicable with the game enhancer. You can add some apps there and when you open it, you can enable HS power control. Also sony just release a new firmware that answer you with this issue.. you can check my video
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Thanks a lot , tomorrow I will be testing - doing long live stream on YouTube using Streamlabs, I always keep my phone under charger as I drive HGV sometimes for 3-4hrs non stop so battery would die.
It also going to be hot day here in UK and having the phone close to windscreen won't help - I know I shouldn't complain about overheating in such circumstances but my phone overheats even when taking photos although I have a feeling that after last system update its looking better , also as I mentioned before switching off object tracking has improved how smooth camera works using Streamlabs and Prism.
I'm considering buying a cooler for my phone too.
I will post my report tomorrow of how it went.
Many thanks
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Have to sit at the outlet all the time? or how will this happen?
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I found the future now in Game Enhancer app, you can power it directly. Not sure how it will perform yet. Tomorrow will send my report.
I often run streaming app in the background and not sure if Game Enhancer will work that way. I run nav app (Sygic Truck).
Heat problem has gone down significantly for me after the latest update yesterday. Usually the phone got really warm even with me just browsing using Chrome or going through Facebook. Now even when playing ROK or Mobile Legends it doesn't get that warm.
Hi people, a little greeting from France!
I would have liked to have some information before falling for the Zenfone 9 and i thanks @Nexr0n; I second him with my views on the phone.
Here's my review, figuring it might be useful to others who, like me, spend their time looking at online tests and searching for the best option.
Background:
I came from a Note 9 (snapdragon) but broke the screen and while it still works, the Zenfone 9 was giving me the eye.
I didn't want to change, not finding anything in the landscape that is as qualitative and meets my criteria. Namely: good screen (especially brightness, the 120hZ was a plus, the QHD too), good speakers, a mini-jack port and a good autonomy. The Note 9 has features that are now unavailable: the clickable home button hidden under the screen, the heart sensor, the rear fingerprint reader (I like it), the notification led, etc.
The new Samsung S22 didn't have any jack or SD and despite their great screens, they seemed to me to be a regression on the points mentioned above, minor of course, but which, cumulatively, I didn't like. In particular the autonomy, which everyone thinks is bad.
I had a SONY 5 III in my sights, but the lack of brightness and the price dissuaded me. I couldn't find a new S21 anywhere else than on Rakuten, so I preferred to avoid it.
I went for the Zenfone 9. The + would have been an SD port but I bought this to keep my data (movies, videos) when I need it, not being a big fan of the cloud: https://www.amazon.fr/Essential-Câble-recharge-synchronisation-données/dp/B0917DWGC6/ref=sr_1_1?adgrpid=1348002191584416&hvadid=84250559089415&hvbmt=bp&hvdev=c&hvlocphy=125745&hvnetw=s&hvqmt=p&hvtargid=kwd-84250662755975:loc-66&hydadcr=29650_2344758&keywords=budi&qid=1662197734&sr=8-1
In use:
The positive:
Ultra responsive, on par with an iPhone. Going back to my Note 9 makes me realize that this is where the gap is most pronounced.
Autonomy:
I have 4 Gmail accounts, 1 exchange account, 2 SIM cards and a company email. 2 whatsapp, 2 Facebook, 1 discord. I play between 1 and 2 hours a day (clash royale, Brawl star) and I am at 75%-80% brightness.
I oscillate between 6 and 8h of SOT (related to a 100% battery, but I use the battery saving functions by charging at 80% maximum). On average, I lose 20% of battery for 1h20 of screen on.
The fingerprint reader, fast and reliable (my right thumb, my right index (when my Asus lay on the table and my left index, when i grab it with my left hand.
The recharge :
The block is provided, the cable too, and it is appreciable. The recharge is not at the level of a One Plus or an Oppo of course, but it takes me less than an hour to go from 20% to 80%. That's enough for me.
The sound quality and its power. The Dirac profiles are ... strange, games / video / cinema do not put the voices at the same level. You have to change regularly depending on what you're listening to, but there's bound to be a profile that will fit before you even bother with the equalizer. On the other hand, what they did with the feeling of having real bass (example with " clap your hands " of Kungs is bluffing). The power with the outdoor mode is quite substantial, but I imagined EVEN more and it transforms the sound, which becomes less pleasant and immediately loses the bass.
The Medium:
The screen
I love the size, I appreciate that it is flat, but the maximum brightness is below what I expected based on the advertised numbers. Side by side, while my Note 9 is very marked (I used Waze a lot, I have a huge burn-in), I feel like the samsung is still brighter than the Asus. It is also better defined, even if the white balance is better on the Zenfone side.
As a reminder: Samsung Note 9 for GSMArena (White 100% luminosity: 367 cd/m2 and 658 cd/m2 in max auto) Asus Zenfone 9 (White: 100% luminosity: 449 cd/m2 / 831 in max auto)
The quality of the photos with the native application, oversharpeing everywhere and bad color accuracy. I prefer the Gcam rendering, but we will have to tweak the application because we are not yet at the level of the Pixel !
The power of vibrations. The Note 9 is *vastly* superior
The Software:
ZenUI is less complete than Samsung, with ALL its little cool tricks (the double broadcast of a video on the phone to show something but music on a speaker for the party at the same time! - the integrated Hiya blocker to know if you're being canvassed or if it's spam when you have a call and all the possibilities offered to power users with Nicelock, Multistar, etc. It's missing).
It's related: the brightness bar is poorly done, you have to swipe down twice to get access to it (there is an option on Samsung so that it's not the case). Moreover, the curve is badly thought out, the progressiveness is not smooth enough. The automatic management of brightness is not bad, but not at the level of my Samsung.
But all in all, ZenUI is usefull and with some cool tweaks. I like Game Genie !
Given the power of the phone, I would have liked a "durable" mode that could rather downclock the processor than prevent applications from waking up with the screen off... Asus, if you read me ...
Notifications: this is probably related to the versions of android and the QHD screen but I had a LOT more notifications on a much smaller space on the Samsung, it was really better. With the Asus, every single notification takes up half of my panel ! Is it a toy or a phone ?!
It's not very important for some, but the jack port on the top of the phone is more restrictive than the bottom, as a rule. I sometimes put my headphones on in the car to listen to stuff while the kids are asleep, the wire sticks up over my phone, it's less convenient. When you're walking around town listening to podcasts, taking it out of your pocket and having to use both hands to put it in the right direction to unlock it, that's handling that was unnecessary with the Note. Manipulations that increase the risk of dropping it.
The negative:
Stand by time:
Turning off the internet at night + having checked that nothing is running in the background, I go from 62% to 52% battery between 11pm and 8am... I'll test in airplane mode, but this loss seems huge !
When i play Genshin Impact, not even in performance mode, it runs HOT !
USB 2.0 ? really ? It was not so long to perform a transfer of my 30k photos from my samsung to my Asus but nevertheless, it was nearly painfull ! Thanksfully my 256 go are in UFS 3.1 !
All in all, I find it a bit expensive for what it is although I'm not disappointed. But if I could, I think I would have waited for a smartphone with the Snapdragon 8 gen 2.
Or go back to Samsung on the mid-range to keep a decent screen but benefit from the jack and micro SD.
What is the ideal price that you consider for this smartphone?
I think 699€ for the 8/128 go and 749€ for the 8/256go were a much better deal.
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Je pense que 699€ pour le 8/128 go et 749€ pour le 8/256go étaient une bien meilleure affaire.
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in any case there will always be positive and negative points.
The positive point of this phone is the compact size (that's all I can say because I don't own it)
I will sell my pixel 6 pro to buy this phone.
For the p6pro that I have had since its release I can say these following:
the phone gets hot in normal use (music, YT). I said it heats up not burns....
The photo quality is very good, a little downside as to the telefoto that for me does not make a miracle (unlike the s21 ultra)
here is a short opinion and that engages only me obviously....
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All in all, I find it a bit expensive for what it is although I'm not disappointed. But if I could, I think I would have waited for a smartphone with the Snapdragon 8 gen 2.
Or go back to Samsung on the mid-range to keep a decent screen but benefit from the jack and micro SD.
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I am really puzzled between this ZF9 and Galaxy S22. My favor is towards ZF9 but there is of course a price difference as well. So maybe i would like to hear what would you pick
A new Samsung Galaxy S22 for 630Euro or ZF9 for 760Euro (both 128GB). Cheers.
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I am really puzzled between this ZF9 and Galaxy S22. My favor is towards ZF9 but there is of course a price difference as well. So maybe i would like to hear what would you pick
A new Samsung Galaxy S22 for 630Euro or ZF9 for 760Euro (both 128GB). Cheers.
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If you want better screen and photos in a manageable size with software which can do anything, s22.
Go for the ZF9 for really good battery life, micro jack and cool form factor with ultra snappy experience without stutter.
And if i were you... , i'd wait for the S23
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And if i were you... , i'd wait for the S23
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That was originally my plan, but my current phone Sony Xperia XZ1 Compact is technically dying after 5yrs so urgently need a new phone i think i would give it a try. And will see later what the S23 will bring us. Thanks a lot for you opinion.
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That was originally my plan, but my current phone Sony Xperia XZ1 Compact is technically dying after 5yrs so urgently need a new phone i think i would give it a try. And will see later what the S23 will bring us. Thanks a lot for you opinion.
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Give "it" a try... Which one?
Thanks for the shoutout, I do agree with most of what you're saying but also do have some small fixes/suggestions.
I went for the Zenfone 9. The + would have been an SD port but I bought this to keep my data (movies, videos) when I need it, not being a big fan of the cloud
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I'm also not a big fan of the cloud, what's been working great for me is Syncthing, FOSS peer to peer solution for local file sharing, set it up on your computer or home server if you've got one and you can sync over whatever files you want to it (automatically when there's changes).
Given the power of the phone, I would have liked a "durable" mode that could rather downclock the processor than prevent applications from waking up with the screen off... Asus, if you read me ...
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There is a durable mode, even an "ultra" durable mode. You can find it in the same spot as performance mode or with the "system modes" switch in the pull down drawer.
Notifications: this is probably related to the versions of android and the QHD screen but I had a LOT more notifications on a much smaller space on the Samsung, it was really better. With the Asus, every single notification takes up half of my panel ! Is it a toy or a phone ?!
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There is a smaller notifications option, you do have to pull down the shade for quick actions (pretty seamless with the smart key gesture) but it does fix the problem.
It's not very important for some, but the jack port on the top of the phone is more restrictive than the bottom, as a rule. I sometimes put my headphones on in the car to listen to stuff while the kids are asleep, the wire sticks up over my phone, it's less convenient. When you're walking around town listening to podcasts, taking it out of your pocket and having to use both hands to put it in the right direction to unlock it, that's handling that was unnecessary with the Note. Manipulations that increase the risk of dropping it.
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This only really applies when not charging the phone but you can flip the screen upside down, everything dodges the hole punch well. That's what I've been doing since i agree, bottom jacks are far superior.
Turning off the internet at night + having checked that nothing is running in the background, I go from 62% to 52% battery between 11pm and 8am... I'll test in airplane mode, but this loss seems huge !
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Asus seems to have every standby battery draining feature turned on by default. Once you go in and turn stuff you aren't using off it's noticeable improvement.
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I'm also not a big fan of the cloud, what's been working great for me is Syncthing, FOSS peer to peer solution for local file sharing, set it up on your computer or home server if you've got one and you can sync over whatever files you want to it (automatically when there's changes).
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I dont' want to rely on internet for certain files i want to watch/read/enjoy. But thanks anyway for the tip !
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There is a durable mode, even an "ultra" durable mode. You can find it in the same spot as performance mode or with the "system modes" switch in the pull down drawer.
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Ha ha, you're kind. Please re-read my tought on that because I know, i'm always in "durable mode" ! I'd wanna speak about the effects of this mode.
There is a smaller notifications option, you do have to pull down the shade for quick actions (pretty seamless with the smart key gesture) but it does fix the problem.
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No, it's not a fix at all, but thanks anyway.
This only really applies when not charging the phone but you can flip the screen upside down, everything dodges the hole punch well. That's what I've been doing since i agree, bottom jacks are far superior.
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Good idea, but not all apk are agree to do that, far from that... Thanks anyway.
Asus seems to have every standby battery draining feature turned on by default. Once you go in and turn stuff you aren't using off it's noticeable improvement.
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Thanks man, but i'm a power user, i fined tune my phone. I turn stuff i'm not using... and "do not disturb" AND "airplane mode" AND "clean memory" AND "auto ultra durable mode from 2:00 am to 5:00 am" just before i sleep ... and my Zenfone 9 keeps a pretty bad standby mode at night (~0,5 - 0,8 % /h).
Yoodj said:
Thanks man, but i'm a power user, i fined tune my phone. I turn stuff i'm not using... and "do not disturb" AND "airplane mode" AND "clean memory" AND "auto ultra durable mode from 2:00 am to 5:00 am" just before i sleep ... and my Zenfone 9 keeps a pretty bad standby mode at night (~0,5 - 0,8 % /h).
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I lose 3-4% over 8 hours with just DND and Ultra Durable.
Same for me (or even less) with the update now.