OnePlus X has (s801 32bit) to be Precise Qualcomm MSM8974AB Snapdragon 801 Processor not 64 bit One... Will It Be A Drawback For Future Updates N Developing
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gaurav247star said:
OnePlus X has (s801 32bit) to be Precise Qualcomm MSM8974AB Snapdragon 801 Processor not 64 bit One... Will It Be A Drawback For Future Updates N Developing
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No. And it's MSM8974PRO-AA
gaurav247star said:
OnePlus X has (s801 32bit) to be Precise Qualcomm MSM8974AB Snapdragon 801 Processor not 64 bit One... Will It Be A Drawback For Future Updates N Developing
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drawback because of ?
gaurav247star said:
OnePlus X has (s801 32bit) to be Precise Qualcomm MSM8974AB Snapdragon 801 Processor not 64 bit One... Will It Be A Drawback For Future Updates N Developing
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Doesn't seem like this will be the case.
Quasar is a developer and he said No.
I don't know. AnandTech has it down for the MSM8974AB, and silicon is their primary thing.
So why is it the weakest version of the 801 SoC ? It seems we're starting to discover why this phone is so cheap !
OnePlus One HAS S801 AC VERSION WHICH IS LATEST
ONEPLUS X HAS S801 AB VERSION WHICH CAME BEFORE AC
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No. And it's MSM8974PRO-AA
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Thanks Quasar,, Don't u Think 32 Bit .. Will Bother us all later
shinodoigt said:
So why is it the weakest version of the 801 SoC ? It seems we're starting to discover why this phone is so cheap !
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Seems Like
Quasar said:
No. And it's MSM8974PRO-AA
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No one knows what it is, CPU Z detects the CPU as the AA version but it also shows the GPU 100MHz above its maximum capacity, which only the AB or AC variants can handle.
rylark said:
No one knows what it is, CPU Z detects the CPU as the AA version but it also shows the GPU 100MHz above its maximum capacity, which only the AB or AC variants can handle.
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That's there. Also, there are a few SD810 components built..... so it's a strange config.
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gaurav247star said:
Thanks Quasar,, Don't u Think 32 Bit .. Will Bother us all later
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Not really. It doesn't make a difference on devices with <4 GB RAM other than the native support and other goodies. Not really a problem.
Quasar said:
That's there. Also, there are a few SD810 components built..... so it's a strange config.
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Not really. It doesn't make a difference on devices with <4 GB RAM other than the native support and other goodies. Not really a problem.
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what sd 810 components?
when i looked into the boot.img i saw a weird constellation
it doesnt have a "real" fstab and it is working with a lot of shell scripts
ckret said:
what sd 810 components?
when i looked into the boot.img i saw a weird constellation
it doesnt have a "real" fstab and it is working with a lot of shell scripts
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Codecs and some firmware stuff.
rylark said:
No one knows what it is, CPU Z detects the CPU as the AA version but it also shows the GPU 100MHz above its maximum capacity, which only the AB or AC variants can handle.
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CPU-Z displays whatever the develop-er programs it to. When there isnt a specific programming for a model of phone it makes an educated guess on the architecture signs and defaults to the base model. Hence, AA
OnePlus X Official Specs
*this will answer most of the queries*
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OnePlus X Official Specs
*this will answer most of the queries*
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It doesn't mention the SoC's version. Also, one of the devs is currently doing an AMA on the Oneplus forums and interestingly enough is purposely ignoring all the issues related to the OPX (except the SD card one). It has been mentioned multiple times, asked to stop ignoring them but still hasn't given any info. This is too fishy for my taste and I already fear my purchase.
edit: Dev confirmed it's the AA variant.
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It doesn't mention the SoC's version. Also, one of the devs is currently doing an AMA on the Oneplus forums and interestingly enough is purposely ignoring all the issues related to the OPX (except the SD card one). It has been mentioned multiple times, asked to stop ignoring them but still hasn't given any info. This is too fishy for my taste and I already fear my purchase.
edit: Dev confirmed it's the AA variant.
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Hmm, that's a bit disappointing. Wasn't it Carl Pei himself who said that it has the AB variant? Or did I get that totally wrong?
Can you please share the link too?
Edit : Nevermind, found it -
https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/oxygenos-q-a-with-helen.403960/page-11
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Codecs and some firmware stuff.
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Probably because the oxygen os is ported from the primary device tree, OPO2
SpiritBreak3r said:
Probably because the oxygen os is ported from the primary device tree, OPO2
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That's kinda unlikely, because this is based off CAF-AOSP and they have different branches for different chipsets. Dunno what OnePlus really tried with this device.
Will development (obviously in the future when the device is more widespread) be hindered by anything you guys have mentioned? Rom development is quite a big draw for me but the One and Two were too big
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Despite both having the same GPU, I have heard that the SGS3 version will be better some how? Higher clock speed?
Can anyone shed some light on this?
otester said:
Despite both having the same GPU, I have heard that the SGS3 version will be better some how? Higher clock speed?
Can anyone shed some light on this?
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Also have more cores i believe.
FISKER_Q said:
Also have more cores i believe.
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According to this they both have 4 cores.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exynos
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According to this they both have 4 cores.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exynos
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Hmm, could've sworn there was a discussion about it having more cores when it was announced, my bad then.
As far as I know the GPU will have higher clock frequency. Also both S2 and S3 have the Quad-Core Mali-400MP.
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As far as I know the GPU will have higher clock frequency. Also both S2 and S3 have the Quad-Core Mali-400MP.
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This will largely be the decider on whether I get it or not.
(As I am designing a GPU intensive 3D game).
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This will largely be the decider on whether I get it or not.
(As I am designing a GPU intensive 3D game).
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Well, S2 had the fastest Mobile GPU and now S3 has the fastest one. So if you really want the best GPU go for the S3 but S2 will also work really well.
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Well, S2 had the fastest Mobile GPU and now S3 has the fastest one. So if you really want the best GPU go for the S3 but S2 will also work really well.
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I need some proof though, no one seems to really know for sure, just want to be sure before splashing £500
This seems to explain it:
the main thing is the smaller process node design, the increased memory bandwidth, cleverer memory bandwidth architecture
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Samsung announced that they have switched to high-k materials and metal gates (HKMG) and further claimed it can provide superior performance with less power than conventional poly-Si/SiON used at 45nm. Samsung demonstrated that Exynos 4212 (32nm version) SoC can produce 35% to 50% more horsepower than the older Exynos 4210 (45nm version). So clearly Exynos 4412 quad core wins the “CPU Horsepower” battle.
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While they haven’t officially announced this yet, I believe the GPU is the same one they promised for the dual core 1.5 Ghz Exynos 4212 chip. They said that GPU had a 50% increase in performance over the current one in the Galaxy S2. This improvement is most likely possible because of the jump from 45nm for the dual core Exynos to the 32nm Exynos 4412 (they used the more efficient transistors to increase performance at the same or lower power consumption).
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I had the Note which was dualcore Exynos 1.4ghz and same GPU, but 1280x800, it could handle just about all the games thrown at it, ie. RipTide, Asphalt 6. I only felt Mordern Combat 3 could have higher fps, although very smooth and playable.
eksasol said:
I had the Note which was dualcore Exynos 1.4ghz and same GPU, but 1280x800, it could handle just about all the games thrown at it, ie. RipTide, Asphalt 6. I only felt Mordern Combat 3 could have higher fps, although very smooth and playable.
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With the game I'm working on, just tried it on my phone today (haven't tested in a few months) and I have noticed some lagging with the new faster animations.
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With the game I'm working on, just tried it on my phone today (haven't tested in a few months) and I have noticed some lagging with the new faster animations.
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The thing is that if you are hardly able to run the game on a Mali-400MP then the game would lag like hell even on T2/T3.
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The thing is that if you are hardly able to run the game on a Mali-400MP then the game would lag like hell even on T2/T3.
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T2/T3?
Also I wouldn't say it hardly runs, minimum of 20FPS, lots of optimizations to be done though such as LOD (basically chops poly count down on far away models).
For lower devices...
Dynamic lighting turned off.
Light maps could be baked into the texture
Normal maps removed.
Specular maps removed.
At the moment it's probably the same or exceeds the quality of Shadowgun THD.
Check available benchmarks .)
You should have looked around more for available benchmarks.
This show clarly that the s3 is much faster than the s2:
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Hironimo said:
You should have looked around more for available benchmarks.
This show clarly that the s3 is much faster than the s2:
source and source
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I wanted to know the technical reason, I've already looked at the benchmarks.
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I wanted to know the technical reason, I've already looked at the benchmarks.
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Higher clock, optimised drivers, maybe hardware optimisation
Mopral said:
Higher clock, optimised drivers, maybe hardware optimisation
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People at the HTC sensation forum extracted Adreno 225 Drivers and used it on their Adreno 220 powered phones and they gained a huge performance boost!
as we know Adreno 225 is Adreno 220 with double the frequency (thanks to that new manufacturing process of the CPU also the GPU still using the same process...)
so can't someone extract the new drivers so everyone with Mali 400 GPU can use it?
Because S3's Quad-core GPU frequency is 400MHz. S2 only 275MHz.I am a Chinese grade 9 student andlooking forward to GS III.
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sorry for my bad English. the frequency isthereason that some tablets with realtek rk2918 board(mali400 mp2)'s 3d performance is higher than GS II.because mali400 on rk2918 is400MHz but GS2 only 275MHz.
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Just wonder whether clocking up the GPU might pose heating issues.
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Hi geeks,
checkout this wiki for general information around the new Exynos dual core
http://www.arndaleboard.org/wiki/index.php/Resources
Of course this file might be of special interest...
BTW:
This document is marked as confidential but it's public available.
So Mike, if this is against rules... tell me!
Best regards,
scholbert
Antutu benchmark of Nexus 10
http://www.antutu.com/view.shtml?id=2960
Quite impressive because antutu depends much on the number of cores and clockrate rather than architechture (1.5 Ghz Snapdragon S3 got ~6600 while 1.4 Ghz Exynos 4210 on GNote had only ~6300)
And the NAND flash is pretty good too, 16.6MB/s write and >50 MB/s read (in fact my Note 2 has 200 point in SD card read with the mark >50 MB/s too, but this one is 10% faster)
I would love to see one of those fancy graphics comparing the Nexus10 performance with "the others".
We know that it's better but how much better?
And if you want more specs, here's two other benchmarks:
SunSpider:
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If anyone is interested in the Antutu scores across the Nexus 4, 7 and 10 devices I've cut'n'paste them together from the Antutu site linked above...
These results are as recorded by Antutu himself at these links...
Nexus 10 - http://www.antutu.com/view.shtml?id=2960
Nexus 7 - http://www.antutu.com/view.shtml?id=1282
Nexus 4 - http://www.antutu.com/view.shtml?id=2940
The 3D and 2D scores on the Nexus 10 keeps up with the other two devices which seems quite impressive considering the higher resolution.
Keitaro said:
If anyone is interested in the Antutu scores across the Nexus 4, 7 and 10 devices I've cut'n'paste them together from the Antutu site linked above...
These results are as recorded by Antutu himself at these links...
Nexus 10 - http://www.antutu.com/view.shtml?id=2960
Nexus 7 - http://www.antutu.com/view.shtml?id=1282
Nexus 4 - http://www.antutu.com/view.shtml?id=2940
The 3D and 2D scores on the Nexus 10 keeps up with the other two devices which seems quite impressive considering the higher resolution.
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Odd, why is the CPU on the Nexus 10 slower than the others? I thought that the A15 was supposed to be the fastest thing on the market right now, which would go nicely with the fastest GPU (Mali 604 or whatever it is).
Also, Scumbag Antutu forces the tablet into portrait. I would love it if Google could somehow force apps to run in landscape, apps should never be in portrait on a 16:10 tablet this big unless I deem it so by orienting it in portrait.
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Odd, why is the CPU on the Nexus 10 slower than the others? I thought that the A15 was supposed to be the fastest thing on the market right now, which would go nicely with the fastest GPU (Mali 604 or whatever it is).
Also, Scumbag Antutu forces the tablet into portrait. I would love it if Google could somehow force apps to run in landscape, apps should never be in portrait on a 16:10 tablet this big unless I deem it so by orienting it in portrait.
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Need to keep in mind that the N10 is running at a MUCH larger resolution, that most likely has something to do with it. Had the processor been on the same device as the 4 and 7 you would see a substantial difference.
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Need to keep in mind that the N10 is running at a MUCH larger resolution, that most likely has something to do with it. Had the processor been on the same device as the 4 and 7 you would see a substantial difference.
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But I wouldn't expect the load of that higher res to go to the CPU, just the GPU (so 2D and 3D scores). Does the CPU get involved in video processing in SoCs?
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Does the Nexus label mean that all drivers for this device will be open source? As in, none of the BS that the devs for the i777 are experiencing with Samsung completely unwilling to release specs for the Exynos/Mali combo in that device?
EDIT: Answered my own question. The AOSP site itself tells you to go get the blobs for specific devices if you want to build. So no. Ah well, my concern would be fully functional OS updates, and the Nexus label DOES solve that - at least for a couple of years after release.
These I/O results look promising. A lot better then the transformer prime I had.
While it's nice to see numbers and you should always take them with a grain of salt (for obvious reasons). I for one am just going to wait till I have my Nexus 10 in my hands and see how she flies. I have no doubts that it will run todays apps with no issues and last you easily for a year +. I for one am drooling over the display (esp if non-pentile). Just hope Samsung did something to address the possiblity of pixel fatigue and ghosting/image retention.
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Odd, why is the CPU on the Nexus 10 slower than the others? I thought that the A15 was supposed to be the fastest thing on the market right now, which would go nicely with the fastest GPU (Mali 604 or whatever it is).
Also, Scumbag Antutu forces the tablet into portrait. I would love it if Google could somehow force apps to run in landscape, apps should never be in portrait on a 16:10 tablet this big unless I deem it so by orienting it in portrait.
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Because it's ANTUTU benchmark. As I said in #2, Antutu always prefer number of cores and frequency of cores rather than the architechture.
That's why the Crapdragon S3 1.5 GHz having higher score than 1.4 GHz Exynos 4210 in GNote.
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Because it's ANTUTU benchmark. As I said in #2, Antutu always prefer number of cores and frequency of cores rather than the architechture.
That's why the Crapdragon S3 1.5 GHz having higher score than 1.4 GHz Exynos 4210 in GNote.
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What are you talking about. The snapdragon is a better architecture with less cores. You have it backwards.
Edit: thought you meant snapdragon s4.
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Here are the benchmarks from Anand's review of Chromebook:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6422/samsung-chromebook-xe303-review-testing-arms-cortex-a15/6
I am almost sure that the N10 will be better optimized compared to Chromebook purely because of the resources dedicated for Android. Also shows that Samsung is still Google's preferred partner in terms of hardware.
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While it's nice to see numbers and you should always take them with a grain of salt (for obvious reasons). I for one am just going to wait till I have my Nexus 10 in my hands and see how she flies. I have no doubts that it will run todays apps with no issues and last you easily for a year +. I for one am drooling over the display (esp if non-pentile). Just hope Samsung did something to address the possiblity of pixel fatigue and ghosting/image retention.
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It's not an AMOLED display, it's a Super PLS (LCD), isn't it?
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What are you talking about. The snapdragon is a better architecture with less cores. You have it backwards.
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Do a research man! You can searxh how sh.t crapdragon s3 msm 8660 compared to exynos 4210 in the same galaxy note (US variant vs int variant)
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And if you want more specs, here's two other benchmarks:
SunSpider:
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That sun spider score is bad vs the chrome book must be the resolution which is high for even high end PCs.
The epic screen was always going to eat most of the resources, the question is: whatever benchmark the final (and in future surely improved) SW version produces, is it enough for smooth operation? That answer will most likely be yes. Chromebook shows huge HW potential, but it's also more optimized at this moment, patience my lads.
The hardware has the potential
Hi Guys,
Came across this while researching Exynos 5250. Looks like the hardware is very capable to handle the WQXGA resolution with memory bandwidth and power to spare. This white paper also mentions the support for 1080p 60fps wireless display. So I hope Miracast will be reality as well, just Google needs to step up and utilize the hardware to its full potential. Its an interesting read none the less..
Sorry, can not post links yet.. replace _ with . and then try.
www_samsung_com/global/business/semiconductor/minisite/Exynos/data/ Enjoy_the_Ultimate_WQXGA_Solution_with_Exynos_5_Dual_WP.pdf
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Hi Guys,
Came across this while researching Exynos 5250. Looks like the hardware is very capable to handle the WQXGA resolution with memory bandwidth and power to spare. This white paper also mentions the support for 1080p 60fps wireless display. So I hope Miracast will be reality as well, just Google needs to step up and utilize the hardware to its full potential. Its an interesting read none the less..
Sorry, can not post links yet.. replace _ with . and then try.
www_samsung_com/global/business/semiconductor/minisite/Exynos/data/ Enjoy_the_Ultimate_WQXGA_Solution_with_Exynos_5_Dual_WP.pdf
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If the link does not work, google exynos 5 dual white paper.
I ran Quadrant and compared the results with those of my old Epic 4g.
Epic 4g Graphics (3d) score is 1666. N10 Graphics (3d) score is 2087. See below.
Epic 4g, rooted, FC09 MTD deodexed, Shadow kernel io/cpu=deadline/ondemand
Nexus 10, not rooted
In official specs sheet it's written Moto E 2015 3G has snapdragon 200 quadcore @ 1.2Ghz with Adreno 302
whereas,
CPUZ and other apps show that it's snapdragon 400 quadcore @ 1.2ghz with Adreno 305.
Since Adreno 305 supports only snapdragon 400 and not 200...so which spec sheet is correct.
I believe latter is correct but can motorola make a such big blunder??
It's a Qualcomm MSM8212.
The Snapdragon marketing names are rather meaningless (since so many different SOCs have the same name). Technically, Qualcomm decided to call it a Snapdragon 200, but it is about equivalent in performance to some of the numerous different SOCs all called Snapdragon 400.
squid2 said:
It's a Qualcomm MSM8212.
The Snapdragon marketing names are rather meaningless (since so many different SOCs have the same name). Technically, Qualcomm decided to call it a Snapdragon 200, but it is about equivalent in performance to some of the numerous different SOCs all called Snapdragon 400.
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So which one is it. 200 or 400
I will be really exited if it is latter.
Ravx said:
So which one is it. 200 or 400
I will be really exited if it is latter.
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Honestly there is a whole lot of confusion coz it's model is MSM8926 which supports Adreno 305 but then its Board is MSM8610 is snapdragon 200 with Adreno 302.
So Nothing is clear for now...
As mentioned on Official Qualcomm site
https://www.qualcomm.com/products/snapdragon/smartphones/motorola-moto-e-2nd-gen-3g
its a sd 200 processor
Also following site specs says that sd 200 processor supports USB OTG
https://www.qualcomm.com/products/snapdragon/processors/200 -- see specs
Did anyone read what I wrote? It's an MSM8212!
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CPU-Z does not yet recognize the CPU, so it reports the model incorrectly. It's an MSM 8212.
@squid2
so you are telling sd 200 is actually sd 400 ? Any references for this? article, posts, blogs etc !!
No. The MSM8212 is called a "Snapdragon 200" by Qualcomm, but that is completely irrelevant.
There are numerous different SoCs all called Snapdragon 200 and 400. The MSM8926 in the Moto G is called a Snapdragon 400 by Qualcomm. The MSM8212 is called a Snapdragon 200. But they are effectively the same thing, with different names. The 8212 and 8926 have about the same performance. The only difference between the 8926 and the 8212 is the GPU. The 8926 has an Adreno 305, while the 8212 has an Adreno 302. The 305 in the 8926 and 302 in the 8212 are about the same in performance though (maybe a 15% difference if at all any).
Just to reiterate:
The Moto E 3G has an MSM8212. The MSM 8212 is marketed as a "Snapdragon 200", though that doesn't mean anything. The MSM8212 is pretty much the same as the MSM8926 in the Moto G, which is marketed as a "Snapdragon 400". They both have the same processor cores, and equivalent GPUs. Forget about the Snapdragon names, they are meaningless.
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for moto e2 3g following site specs says that sd 200 processor supports USB OTG
https://www.qualcomm.com/products/sn...processors/200
when i try, it doesnot detects USB OTG, is it problem with android 5.0.1 or h/w is absent ? processor supports it
santoshvaza said:
@squid2
for moto e2 3g following site specs says that sd 200 processor supports USB OTG
https://www.qualcomm.com/products/sn...processors/200
when i try, it doesnot detects USB OTG, is it problem with android 5.0.1 or h/w is absent ? processor supports it
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The SoC supports USB OTG, but Motorola didn't include a 5V boost regulator (at least on the 3G model). The boost regulator is necessary to provide the 5V that USB peripherals require.
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The SoC supports USB OTG, but Motorola didn't include a 5V boost regulator (at least on the 3G model). The boost regulator is necessary to provide the 5V that USB peripherals require.
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Hi @squid2
otg with external 5v power supply.
http://www.ebay.in/itm/Micro-USB-Ho...3?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_203&hash=item3f44b938c9
will it work?
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Hi @squid2
otg with external 5v power supply.
http://www.ebay.in/itm/Micro-USB-Ho...3?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_203&hash=item3f44b938c9
will it work?
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I don't know, sorry. It might work.
According to http://www.xda-developers.com/moto-e-2nd-gen-2015-device-review/ OTG should work with that cable.
Hi! Suspecting a graphics problem.
So... I just bought this phone. I charged it and updated to 6.0, then installed my apps.
It seemd a bit sluggish when handling graphics, which made me test it with 3dmark. I ran SlingShot ES3.1 and got quite poor results in the graphics section. Physics were fine (CPU related, I guess). Screenshot below. The graphics score was 323 (in one review, which I cant link) and the reference score in app is 283. Mine is 71. I had nothing running background and the phone was recently restarted. What could be the reason?
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Edit. Power plan is also set to "performance".
As you may know, this SOC does perform well in multitasking but not so in single task and graphics. It's common to all Kirin SOC.
That said, I got 69 score and 1320 Physics, so pretty standard.
It's not a gamer GPU.
zinko_pt said:
As you may know, this SOC does perform well in multitasking but not so in single task and graphics. It's common to all Kirin SOC.
That said, I got 69 score and 1320 Physics, so pretty standard.
It's not a gamer GPU.
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Actually, good at single and multi core but not on graphics
memht said:
Actually, good at single and multi core but not on graphics
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Comparatively to Qualcomm apples-to-apples you're wrong, due to it's higher frequency. Check P9 (Kirin 955) and Honor8 reviews when compared with SD820 and SD652.
zinko_pt said:
As you may know, this SOC does perform well in multitasking but not so in single task and graphics. It's common to all Kirin SOC.
That said, I got 69 score and 1320 Physics, so pretty standard.
It's not a gamer GPU.
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Then how is it possible that the same device has got very different scores when tested in reviews?
futuremark.com/hardware/mobile/Huawei+Honor+7/review
qtba said:
Then how is it possible that the same device has got very different scores when tested in reviews?
futuremark.com/hardware/mobile/Huawei+Honor+7/review
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Different test settings. Apps installed, accounts, phone settings...
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But the results surely should not be that bad? I mean, the graphics score I got was less than fourth of what I saw in different reviews. Only difference was, that the tests in reviews were ran with android 5.x still on board and I ran the test with 6.0 just installed. The futuremark test is standard.
My phone was mint condition. No programs on background. Nothing but the standard applicatins installed. Did not make a difference. I ran the test several times just to make sure (with reboots etc.). Socres were 66-71 (graphic score around 53-55).
qtba said:
But the results surely should not be that bad? I mean, the graphics score I got was less than fourth of what I saw in different reviews. Only difference was, that the tests in reviews were ran with android 5.x still on board and I ran the test with 6.0 just installed. The futuremark test is standard.
My phone was mint condition. No programs on background. Nothing but the standard applicatins installed. Did not make a difference. I ran the test several times just to make sure (with reboots etc.). Socres were 66-71 (graphic score around 53-55).
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Could even be different app versions. Unless you provide the reviews we'll be around endless speculation.
Having different kernel (5.1 vs 6.0.1) also makes a difference.
qtba said:
Hi! Suspecting a graphics problem.
So... I just bought this phone. I charged it and updated to 6.0, then installed my apps.
It seemd a bit sluggish when handling graphics, which made me test it with 3dmark. I ran SlingShot ES3.1 and got quite poor results in the graphics section. Physics were fine (CPU related, I guess). Screenshot below. The graphics score was 323 (in one review, which I cant link) and the reference score in app is 283. Mine is 71. I had nothing running background and the phone was recently restarted. What could be the reason?
Edit. Power plan is also set to "performance".
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Kirin processors aren't powerful enough for heavy games or single core demanding tasks
PalakMi said:
Kirin processors aren't powerful enough for heavy games or single core demanding tasks
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True, it´s widely documented throughout the web. Even Mali GPU in latest Exynos are more powerful.
zinko_pt said:
True, it´s widely documented throughout the web. Even Mali GPU in latest Exynos are more powerful.
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Exactly
A well knowned tipster- Digital Chat Station declares that the new Tensor chip is all about octa-core.
However, Google usage a 2+2+4 core design. Means 2×2.8ghz power core and other 2×2.25ghz power core. Although there has a 4 cores of power consumption cores. Which is clocked at 1.8ghz.
Not only the CPU is strong but also Google will use here a Mali- G78 GPU, which is the best in class GPU that we're all see today.
Conclusion is, Google will optimised it at there best. For that it will provide the potential speed and features.
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its just a commissioned chip via Samsung
its a relabeled Exynos, it will be utter trash.
strelokcyka said:
its just a commissioned chip via Samsung
its a relabeled Exynos, it will be utter trash.
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What else would it be? Or less.
It's no Snapdragon...
Now we all know it's actually a member of Exynos 1080/2100 family with some Google's custom components... Someone said that the Tensor's code nunber was "e9855", while Samsung's flagship Exynos 2100 wss "e9840".
If that's true, the Tensor could have 2 Cortex-X1 cores, and it would be a lot more powerful (at least for the CPU part) than Snapdragon 888(+) and Kirin 9000.
strelokcyka said:
its just a commissioned chip via Samsung
its a relabeled Exynos, it will be utter trash.
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Exynos 2100 isn't really trash, though the previous few generations were
Missignal_Dev said:
Exynos 2100 isn't really trash, though the previous few generations were
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Guess it depends how well Gookill tunes it.
Recent test scores look real good at least on Samsung devices.
Exynos 2100 vs Snapdragon 888: Benchmarking the Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra versions
We have some performance numbers of our own to go over and examine. For quite some time now Samsung has been releasing two versions of most of its premium...
m.gsmarena.com
The best tester's for the new pixel chip will be the XDA members! Cheers
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Exynos 2100 isn't really trash, though the previous few generations were
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Excessive battery heat, drain and short life going off of track record sure sounds like trash to me.
But hey if you want to buy bad chips, you do you.
strelokcyka said:
Excessive battery heat, drain and short life going off of track record sure sounds like trash to me.
But hey if you want to buy bad chips, you do you.
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That can happen with any chipset in a Samsung.
It's a common and usually correctable issue.
However, for instance, the 20 Ultras had random heat sinks in use, the copper vapor phase ones ran cool, the graphene pad ones ran hot.
Personally though I wouldn't buy a Google phone or one without a SD card slot.
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Now we all know it's actually a member of Exynos 1080/2100 family with some Google's custom components... Someone said that the Tensor's code nunber was "e9855", while Samsung's flagship Exynos 2100 wss "e9840".
If that's true, the Tensor could have 2 Cortex-X1 cores, and it would be a lot more powerful (at least for the CPU part) than Snapdragon 888(+) and Kirin 9000.
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Yes, I expect google's new pixel phone.
strelokcyka said:
its just a commissioned chip via Samsung
its a relabeled Exynos, it will be utter trash.
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Is there any possibilities of google making an upgrade to that processor
ivigneshwaran said:
Is there any possibilities of google making an upgrade to that processor
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Unlikely especially given the ongoing chipset shortage which is only going to get worse.
Hold off for at least a year if you can. Firmware (R) and hardware issues dominate this year's releases... not a pretty picture.
blackhawk said:
Unlikely especially given the ongoing chipset shortage which is only going to get worse.
Hold off for at least a year if you can. Firmware (R) and hardware issues dominate this year's releases... not a pretty picture.
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But we xda'ers like the challenge to fix everything that Google breaks!
galaxys said:
But we xda'ers like the challenge to fix everything that Google breaks!
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Yes, well... then you are sure to be some of the happiest SOBs on the planet!
The codename is GS101/S5E9845, I saw on this page the specs and Antutu benchmarks for pixel 6.
Google Tensor - PhoneMore
Google Tensor specs, benchmark, performance, architecture, memory and all chipset specifications and technical features.
www.phonemore.com
The Pro version with 12GB RAM is much better, but Exynos 2100 is better than Tensor