really torn between these two devices ,
am talking about AOSP or CM on z5c , is AOSP working well on it ?
the 5x display is not that great , is the z5c display any better ?
any suggestion is appreciated .
I have just been evaluating the two side my side for the past fortnight trying to decide which to keep.
Hightlights of the z5c have been its size, speaker quality, and overall build quality. Micro SD slot is handy and waterproofness is nice to have. However I have found the camera to be very disappointing and slow to use and the results average. Also the smaller screen size can make operating Xperia keyboard and text input frustrating at times.. I dont htink the screen is as good as the one the Nexus but maybe thats just me. Excellent battery life. I have only tried Sony factory ROM and was not aware that others such as CM are available yet?
Highights of the Nexus 5x have been the crisp clean Marshmallow interface, good screen and excellent point and shoot camera. Screen is not as repsonsive as x5c when it needs to dim in a dark environment. It has a Terrific keyboard that is really accurate and easy to use. along with best fingerprint reader I have used. Downsides to it are its plasticy design with protruding lens which makes me reluctant to put it down on its back on a desk. even though I know the lens will not contact the desk. A Google Adopted TPU case fixed this though. But as soon as you encase it no-one will have any idea it is a google phone. Speaker is crappy and poor sound quality compered to z5c. USB C power cables are orphans and mean you cannot use existing A cables existing devices most people have. Couple this with a mediocre battery life can be problematic. Biggest downside for me though is its size. Too big too put into from jeans pocket and protrudes an inch or so out the top of shirt pocket.
So I ended up selling my 5x and keeping the z5c. My hope is that Sony will do something in the marshmallow update to improve the point and shoot usabilty of the camera. Hope this helps.
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I have just been evaluating the two side my side for the past fortnight trying to decide which to keep.
Hightlights of the z5c have been its size, speaker quality, and overall build quality. Micro SD slot is handy and waterproofness is nice to have. However I have found the camera to be very disappointing and slow to use and the results average. Also the smaller screen size can make operating Xperia keyboard and text input frustrating at times.. I dont htink the screen is as good as the one the Nexus but maybe thats just me. Excellent battery life. I have only tried Sony factory ROM and was not aware that others such as CM are available yet?
Highights of the Nexus 5x have been the crisp clean Marshmallow interface, good screen and excellent point and shoot camera. Screen is not as repsonsive as x5c when it needs to dim in a dark environment. It has a Terrific keyboard that is really accurate and easy to use. along with best fingerprint reader I have used. Downsides to it are its plasticy design with protruding lens which makes me reluctant to put it down on its back on a desk. even though I know the lens will not contact the desk. A Google Adopted TPU case fixed this though. But as soon as you encase it no-one will have any idea it is a google phone. Speaker is crappy and poor sound quality compered to z5c. USB C power cables are orphans and mean you cannot use existing A cables existing devices most people have. Couple this with a mediocre battery life can be problematic. Biggest downside for me though is its size. Too big too put into from jeans pocket and protrudes an inch or so out the top of shirt pocket.
So I ended up selling my 5x and keeping the z5c. My hope is that Sony will do something in the marshmallow update to improve the point and shoot usabilty of the camera. Hope this helps.
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thanks a lot , very helpful ,
and yes there is an AOSP 5.1.1 rom available for the z5c , no CM yet ( can't imagine it will be long before a release , given sony has released the binaries ) ,
here you go :
http://fxpblog.co/aosp/aosp-5-1/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/z5-compact/orig-development/aosp-builds-z5c-t3226266
I haven't tested the 5x yet, but have the z5c for about two weeks now and in my opinion there are two main issues with the z5c:
First the display colors really seem to be washed out, the black is more a really dark grey than a black (I don't know if this is due to a defect screen or if this is the case for all z5c's), also the display resolution of 720p isn't really enough for me as I clearly can see the edges of round app icons for example even when I'm farther away from the screen.
Also the increase of the phone temperature during prolonged use really bothers me, but that's a known issue of the Snapdragon 810. The camera is just okay, I honestly expected more, especially in low light conditions. But as far as is understand this is rather a post-processing issue than an hardware issue, I hope this improves with Marshmallow.
Two plus points are good battery live (maybe also due to the relatively low res screen) and the overall speed of the phone, which really has improved since the last firmware update.
I had both phones at the same time. Here are my thoughts:
Z5 Compact
+ I prefer the phone size much better
+ I play ingress, so prefer the better battery life and single handed use
+ I have a couple of external battery packs, which quick charge the Z5C
+ Waterproof
+ Really like that Sony went with regular micro-USB connector unlike the Z3C
+ Expandable memory. This can become expanded internal memory in Marshmallow
+ I love Tap to Wake
+ It is a sexy looking device
- Thicker than the N5X
- Not thrilled that the volume rocker is below the power button
- Surely majority of folks don't use the wrist strap feature?! It's a dust collector for me.
- Typing an issue on a smaller keyboard
- Voice recognition is iffy
- I hate that I don't have the option to turn off the notification light at when charging at night (always have to remember to place the phone facedown)
- Run hot under heavy use, but I use a case to avoid the slipper glass on the back anyway
Nexus 5X
+ Clean UI
+ Fast updates
+ Better fingerprint sensor
+ Thin and light
+ Better typing experience
+ Ambient display
- Too large for single-handed use
- Camera pops out like a nipple - could be seen as a positive
- USB-C means new expense on cables and charger (consider the added expenses here)
- My external chargers will work with N5X, but will not charge as quick as a licensed Qualcomm Quickcharge phone
- The vibration motor is a lot harsher than the Z5C. Not a fan.
- The mono speaker seems to be facing the back, but there is no opening on the back, so sound is kinda muffled.
- What's the deal with the giant bezel?!
- No expanded memory support
- The internal specs are lower (808 vs 810 in Z5C, and Adreno 418 vs 430 in Z5C). The Z5C guts are actually in the Nexus 6P, but with 3GB RAM.
I ended up returning the Nexus 5X primarily because of the size and having to make sure I have a USB-C cable handy in case I run through the battery. Even when I had the phone charging while I was playing ingress, the phone battery was discharging faster than recharging.
The Z5C is very comfortable to use. I do have an itch for a completely bloat free UI, with Marshmallow. Once unlock and root processes eventually get released/cleaned-up, the Z5C will be take a bigger bite into the Nexus 5X's main selling point.
N5X advantages:
- Camera (for photos) is in another league, look at the camera samples, the photos are very sharp compared to all Sony Z cameras.
- Fast updates.
- Stock clean Android (only Google apps that can be disabled) / Camera2 API / probably…not sure: Google Now Always ON / etc
Z5C adv:
- Battery life (If N5X battery life is less than 50% better than N5 battery, then it still really sux).
- Size (subjective)
- SoC 810 is much better.
- Long battery life when gaming.
- Some General hardware~ (mic quality / screen quality / etc).
Sent from my E5823
Finally i bought the 5x due to no AOSP roms available yet on z5c ,
thanks everyone .
So, I had nexus 5x for 1.5 month, got 5x after beloved Sony z5c international with fingerprint reader and wrist strap due to switching to verizon from ATT and it was cheapest of the semi-decent phones. I regret both.
1. While its compatible, and verizon sim works, i barely get signal 3G LTE to none while my other friends right next to me with iphones and samsung phones get high speed full bars 4g lte, so must be poor antenna or not fully compatible with verizon as claimed. And mind you its after hours on the phone with verizon i got it to even work. When i try send emails most times it flashes message every 1-2 seconds "no connection" "retry" then "connected", that creates multiple drafts when im trying to send email, nuisance to say the least. Or messages I thought were sent stuck in limbo, shown sent on device, but when login to email account from pc it isnt sent or even in drafts, so its on a device stuck, not sent even when connected while shown as sent on device.
2. giant phone not one handed. And no wrist strap hook!
3. Poor photo quality, no depth, poor resolution, only way to focus camera is to take 1 shot only then it tries to focus, any other way it would normally work on z5c with green to red focus window is not available. I tweaked it a bit using camera MX but even so, mediocre original software & hardware.
3. Pricy and no expansion memory, i got 32gb, and OS + apps already took over 20gb, and mind you i only have very few brain games and productivity apps like docsToGo that do not take much space, rest is android os itself upfront.
4. Not waterproof or resistant. Even when water droplet hits center of screen it acts out thinking its my finger, z5c did not react same way to water at all, it ignored it mostly, only responding to finger.
5. google keyboard is horrible, not even arrows to move coursor right or left within text, and gokeyboard became commercialized with adds so.. i didnt find better alternative, and you have to be precise getting it into right spot to insert extra words in between especially at the beginning of paragraph.
6. New Android version lost too many good features gaining none. Like little menu on the bottom right to close all open apps at once, gone! Now you have to manually close each app. specific to z5c mini apps like calculator, browser that can be used simultaneously with other apps window in window, shown both at once of course not included, and nothing similar available.
7. Battery life poor. I had about 5hours browsing no video out of it before it hits 20% mark from 100%, with video even faster. While usb c helps charge faster, true, but it doesnt help battery life , and no wireless charging, adapters just came to market, i do not think ill keep phone long enough to try if it works.
8. Back to memory expansion, so forget microsd, but even usb wont work. I have samsung duo usb3 to micro usb, so attempt 1 was to use anker adapter with my samsung usbduo drive and it didnt even register the drive. So i went ahead and bought an app to register usb c drive, didnt work. attempt 2 after shelling out for the nexus 5x compatible app, bought usb c flash drive guess what, only registers with that app, and even then cant just browse folders and files, open, work with file, save, ..no. you would have to copy to phone then work with file, save to phone only, and only then copy or move back to usb c drive. Really! So i scrapped that plan, went cloud, and got rid of usb c drive.
9. When plug in to pc have to manually each time select transfer files or it will only charge by default, havent found way to change that either.
10. Camera and fingerprint reader so close, guess where your fingerprint lands most times? Yup, keep wiping the camera lense.
11. Cherry on top, doesnt come with usb c to usb 2.0 or usb 3.0 cable, google store omitted that just saying charger and usb c cable, so as you discover that fact and jumping to look for a cable thats never seems available in google store site, your return time slot is closing down on you ..14 days..and you cant even test it with pc plugged in..
So, good stuff..fingerprint scanner works, usb c charge faster by 2x time.. that is about it.
Contacted google store and since its over 14 days = nonrefundable.
Conclusion, I am going back to AT&T and my beloved z5c! Yes, it doesnt have usb c and older (better version of android).. but guess what small, waterproof, has wriststrap to phone not just case, faster, better camera, better photos album layout, keyboard, LTE 4G without hangs and drops, same fingerprint scanner, and if i left out anything else, its there, on that sweet small device.
Perhaps someone else might find 5x mediocre good enough and cheap enough but for me I am ok going back to proven to be better for same price!
Edit: I didn't read the dates or the whole tread. I need sleep.
Hello,
I'm facing the same thing for a few days now; I'm hesitating between picking up a Nexus 5X or a Z5C, the first one has the advantage of frequent updates and clean Android experience but a relatively big screen while the second one has an ideal screen but I've heard about lots of overheating problems related to it.
So since it's 2016 and both phones are running Marshmallow, can you guys give me a quick update on your experiences now ? Thanks
Mephistorium said:
Hello,
I'm facing the same thing for a few days now; I'm hesitating between picking up a Nexus 5X or a Z5C, the first one has the advantage of frequent updates and clean Android experience but a relatively big screen while the second one has an ideal screen but I've heard about lots of overheating problems related to it.
So since it's 2016 and both phones are running Marshmallow, can you guys give me a quick update on your experiences now ? Thanks
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The Sony ui is still full of bugs but marshmallow performs at a decent level. Still nothing to compete with it in its size class.
Mephistorium said:
Hello,
I'm facing the same thing for a few days now; I'm hesitating between picking up a Nexus 5X or a Z5C, the first one has the advantage of frequent updates and clean Android experience but a relatively big screen while the second one has an ideal screen but I've heard about lots of overheating problems related to it.
So since it's 2016 and both phones are running Marshmallow, can you guys give me a quick update on your experiences now ? Thanks
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The z5c is a great phone, its just the battery life isn't the best in my opinion......you ever consider thinking of the Z3C? Im sure its a no since its been 2 years passed.
Thanks a lot for your feedback, As you said: the thing is that the Z5C has nothing to compete against in the small flagship category, if the battery lasts for a day on average use then I'm fine also the phone doesn't overheat from normal use as I've been reading all over the internet.
Regarding the Z3C, I think I can consider it if it's not too far from the Z5C performance, any feedback on that could be helpful!
Mephistorium said:
Thanks a lot for your feedback, As you said: the thing is that the Z5C has nothing to compete against in the small flagship category, if the battery lasts for a day on average use then I'm fine also the phone doesn't overheat from normal use as I've been reading all over the internet.
Regarding the Z3C, I think I can consider it if it's not too far from the Z5C performance, any feedback on that could be helpful!
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Z3c edges out slightly better in performance and dev support. BUT it has side charging port and flaps, not the most practical. It's all about your price range really.
Thanks a lot! Actually I have a bit of money on the side so I can get the Z5C, and in Europe the difference between the Z5C and the Z3C is like 60 dollars, the nexus 5x is the cheapest of all three phones
Mephistorium said:
Thanks a lot! Actually I have a bit of money on the side so I can get the Z5C, and in Europe the difference between the Z5C and the Z3C is like 60 dollars, the nexus 5x is the cheapest of all three phones
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Just like guy from above said, its all about your price/how much you can afford, ppl mainly go for nexus 5x for fast updates (pretty much it). If you not picky on the year, Z3C is your best bet if you want performance and best battery life and plus theres a unique developer at the Z3C forum that has been making the Z3C a perfect phone for anyone. The reason I got the Z5C is because I had screen issues on the Z3C and plus i was still in love of the compact series of the xperia. Z5C is doing fine for me
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Just like guy from above said, its all about your price/how much you can afford, ppl mainly go for nexus 5x for fast updates (pretty much it). If you not picky on the year, Z3C is your best bet if you want performance and best battery life and plus theres a unique developer at the Z3C forum that has been making the Z3C a perfect phone for anyone. The reason I got the Z5C is because I had screen issues on the Z3C and plus i was still in love of the compact series of the xperia. Z5C is doing fine for me
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Well thanks a lot, I do trust your ways around phones, so I've ordered a Z3C with a magnetic charger ( to avoid trouble with slot flaps ) think it's my best bet as you said.
Thanks again
Mephistorium said:
Well thanks a lot, I do trust your ways around phones, so I've ordered a Z3C with a magnetic charger ( to avoid trouble with slot flaps ) think it's my best bet as you said.
Thanks again
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Your welcome, be sure to go to the Z3C forum if you have additional questions, its really a good phone. I recommend flashing this rom to make your phone very unique but before doing that, you need root and recovery, thank God its easier to do it without unlocking the boot loader, just zoom in that forum for all of your questions, I wish you the best of luck!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/z3-compact/development/rom-slimm-t3359831
Mephistorium said:
Well thanks a lot, I do trust your ways around phones, so I've ordered a Z3C with a magnetic charger ( to avoid trouble with slot flaps ) think it's my best bet as you said.
Thanks again
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I suggest you cancel the z3c order. The Z3/Z3c is easy to has touch issue after 12~16 months, the touch panel life cycle is short, my friend Z3 got screen problem right after his warranty expired a few days(exactly 12 months passed) and he fuxked up and switched to Iphone, he was a Sony fans with only SE/Sony phones used in his life.
I admit Z3c got better software development, battery and thermal control. However, the camera on Z3c is worse than Z1c/Z5c. But if you only want a cheap compact and don't care buy another one after 1~2 years then Z3c is still a good choice.
TheEndHK said:
I suggest you cancel the z3c order. The Z3/Z3c is easy to has touch issue after 12~16 months, the touch panel life cycle is short, my friend Z3 got screen problem right after his warranty expired a few days(exactly 12 months passed) and he fuxked up and switched to Iphone, he was a Sony fans with only SE/Sony phones used in his life.
I admit Z3c got better software development, battery and thermal control. However, the camera on Z3c is worse than Z1c/Z5c. But if you only want a cheap compact and don't care buy another one after 1~2 years then Z3c is still a good choice.
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Hello and sorry I was on vacation )
Thank you very much though as (un)lucky as I am, I've returned the z3c via amazon but then I'm back looking, maybe I only have the z5c or something like htc m8 to go after.
Related
I'm well aware of the Z2 specs, have read reviews, etc. But I want to hear from you guys, real world users. How are you liking your Z2? Is it awesome? Is it frustrating?
Opinions from real users that I'd love to hear about:
-Battery life
-Lag
-Sound quality (talking/mic/ringer, etc.)
-Is overheating really an issue?(I heard it was with 4k recording, which I probably won't do much of)
-Quirks, things that bug/annoy you about it. General problems that may be common in this phone.
Is this a phone that you "have to" root in order to make it more "usable", or is it pretty good out of the box?
What I like about the the Z2:
+current prices (can be had for around $400)
+good camera (on paper at least, please correct me if I'm wrong)
+screen size and resolution
+expandable memory
What i mainly don't like:
-sony seems to be slow on releasing updates
-no user replaceable battery(I know, where there's a will, there's a way, but still, it's nice to have that sometimes).
I'm trying to decide between this or a LG G pro 2.... both have expandable memory(a must for me) via microsdhc, a 1080p 5"+ screen(very preferable for me), with a decent camera(at least on paper), the real selling point is that the Z2 is cheaper with a slightly faster processor, otherwise, specs are relative similar to me as far as I'm concerned... I just want to know "real world" opinions... because everything may be great on paper, but the device could be a frustrating experience when beheld and used everyday.
Thanks!
Z2 -
The device was certainly worth the money i spent on it
1. Great battery
2. Barely any lags under normal use
3. Amazing camera quality (near SLR/DSLR in macro shots)
4. Very useful to have micro sdcard slot
Updates are fast as can be (xperia Z2 took forever to get 4.4.4 but all other xperias got it very quickly)
Xperia Z2 on 4.4.4 is certainly worth it. Its literely a Cheaper Z3 with slightly lesser quality.
It still has the potential (with root) to out perform the Z3
I wouldn't be able to tell you how much I like this device, specially after the last update.
Battery life is great, even without using Stamina mode which is very usefull.
UI is beautifull and really smooth. I really like the display.
I haven't had a problem with Z2 so far.
I think this device is pretty awesome out of the box.
Hi,
After 4 years of only HTC, I have decided to get the Z2.
I have it from one month (bought it new)
Pros:
- The phone, looks awesome, my opinion the speakers are more beautiful from Z3
- Camera is amazing
- Battery Life amazing, got and 4 days of normal use, (speaking at least 1 hour per day)
- it is the fastest phone I have used, very fast in the UI
- more
Cons:
- Very frustrating, very, very, very! bad sound, all my friend told me that they hear me very noisy, very bad, echoes..etc - using headset, amazing audio quality.
- after update to 4.4.4 every time I put my phone at ear to speak I find that quick setting drop down and activating/deactivating features form quick setting, even airplane mode and close the call
- very hard to upgrade to.. it took me about one day, tried many times.. to get the upgrade to 4.4.4, very much errors...
- very slippery, slipped from my pocket, fall down and get scratched.. very easy to scratch
If I have to chose again I would still get HTC, The One M8. I would be chose the bad camera, low battery life, but have a good call quality, most important feature of a phone.
Once again, it's my opinion and maybe I got "lucky" and I have got a bad one..
Best regards, and chose widely
Came from a rooted galaxy s3 about a month ago; which I still think is one of the best phones out there....but.....
The Z2 is very impressive, the battery life is extremely impressive and with normal (light) use I can get over 2 days out of it. The camera is amazing as is the 4k recording; but it does shutdown due to overheating at 4k after about 15 mins.
I have not experienced any lag whatsoever with the phone and it's as smooth as butter.
Some of the Sony apps get annoying with there constant toast messages but you can disable them.
One of the reasons I used to root phone was to use Titanium to back up all my apps and data; but the sony has it's own app for that; so I did root the phone originally; but have gone back to stock (mainly to get the last update)
It is a fingerprint magnet so cover and screen guard a must.
I have heard stories about the magnetic charging port coming off the phone, but I don't use it.
I have no issues with call quality at all even over hangouts, viber or Skype video. Think the echo experienced by other uses is phone specific as my wifes Sony M has echo but my sons doesn't.
For me the audio is so low and terrible, it seems to be a software problem and not a hardware problem but sony wont fix it, in call volume i can never hear
I splurged 800 on an unlocked Z2 about 8 months ago. I have to say I love the phone.
Great camera(HTC owners get envious sometimes)
Good battery life(loaded with apps I get about 28 hours regularly with moderate use. Once went 52 hours on a single charge without using stamina mode)
Microsd card slot is great to expand memory
Overall the phone is a real power house. Loads games quickly and keeps multiple apps running in the background with ease. Only thing I regret was not doing enough research during rooting process and ended up losing DRM keys in the process. Otherwise I would spend another 800 on a Z2 or Z3.
I have had multiple android phones latest was the note 3 which i swapped for the Z2
Spec wise the z2 is amazing
Cosmetically phone looks very very nice slick smooth overall looks the part. However it is the most slippery phone in the world if you try to sit this phone on your legs while sitting down for example forget about it its off in milliseconds
functionality wise not so much
While it does play anything you throw at it with ease games apps media etc.
Battery life is second to none best battery life and on screen time of any phone ive ever had
However the poor poor poor audio notification system is a big big downfall
Unless you physically have this phone in your hand you wont know its ringing or if you received a notification (unless you root and add mods which then don't fix the notification problem) Sony are not only aware of this problem they refuse to fix it or acknowledge that there is even an problem to fix and have even added the same problem onto the Z3
The waterproofing its sceptical as the so called protective flaps on the charger port at least randomly open so therefore leaves the phone vulnerable to water damage
The screen while looks stunning when watching HD clips or playing games in certain light you can clearly see all the Digitizer touch sensors (tiny dots) on the screen more so in good light watching something dark on your phone to me this is a major annoyance
Boasts a 20.7mp camera only while using manual controls (Not something the average user can or will ever do) In auto mode which almost everyone will use its limited to 8mp (Again unless you root and use a mod)
The features of the camera are absolutely brilliant timeshift,4K,AR effects etc. and many many more
Sony say there all for open source support and enable you to unlock your bootloader via there website if you wish to.
However doing so will delete your TA folder DRM keys (something that is not mentioned in the unlocking process) thus disabling many of the phones features in the process (Not so much support as punishment) such as ps4 remote play noise cancelling etc.(this obviously if you plan to root and unlock phone but lets face it your on xda so clearly thats the plan)
The development for this device is not so great (Respect to all the devs actively working on the device) not a great selection of roms mods etc. as you would see on other flagship devices
For me i would say no this is the first and the last Sony phone i will purchase
Given the choice i would trade back for my galaxy note 3 in a heartbeat
No doubt people will disagree but this is just my honest experience with the phone to date
Root fixes everything, except the lcd dots.
But this comment is interesting
manemzjum said:
Sony say there all for open source support and enable you to unlock your bootloader via there website if you wish to.
However doing so will delete your TA folder DRM keys (something that is not mentioned in the unlocking process) thus disabling many of the phones features in the process (Not so much support as punishment) such as ps4 remote play noise cancelling etc.
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Certain pre-loaded content on your device may also be inaccessible due to the removal of DRM security keys. For high-end devices running recent software versions, for instance Xperia Z3, the removal of DRM security keys may affect advanced camera functionality. For example, noise reduction algorithms might be removed, and performance when taking photos in low-light conditions might be affected. The secure user data partition may also become inaccessible, and you will not be able to get any more official software upgrades if you unlock the boot loader.
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Then the FAQ
If I change my mind later on, is there any way to restore my device?
No. Once you have unlocked the boot loader, you will not be able to revert the device back to a locked or original state or restore the DRM security*keys. You can however use the*Flash tool for Xperia™ devices*to flash a generic Sony ROM, although it will not receive automatic software upgrades.
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If the screen size doesn't matter for you, I would choose the lg. I've already had g2 and they have the multi window feature like in Samsung (of course after installing a proper rom). About xperia z2 itself, yes, I would buy it one more time, however htc one m8 had much better os. The battery life here is just awesome, I think only droid turbo could beat sony. I didn't use stock rom, but flashing dixperia made it finally almost lagfree device. The small apps are completely unusable for me. Camera, hmm the amount of megapixels is able to make the photos really good, however when I've compared 8mpx picture from z2 and 4mpx from one m8, the htc definitely wins it in matter of quality. The screen is good and readable in the sun and it doesn't catch so many fingerprints on the screen, however it's a bit more reflective than on htc, so you may find it annoying when watching a movie and seeing a reflection of a chandelier on the screen. Although it has 3gb of ram, the sony os kills more often the background apps than htc. There's one important thing about these devices. I've had two xperia z1 and now z2, and each of them has some hardware mulfunction, so be prepared that may be forced to use the warranty. In z2 I have a problem with mini jack as it sometimes doesn't detect headphones in it.
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o0 Matt 0o said:
Root fixes everything, except the lcd dots.
But this comment is interesting
Sony website
Then the FAQ
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This is why the z2 will be the only Sony phone I ever own, we should not be penalised or lose features for doing what we want with our own devices! I'm really hoping Ara takes off in a big way as that is the kind of freedom that we need and should make the likes of Sony realise the mistakes they are making
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o0 Matt 0o said:
Root fixes everything, except the lcd dots.
But this comment is interesting
Sony website
Then the FAQ
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Did you really go searching the Sony website just to post that lol
Like how they say doing so MAY RESULT IN INACCESSIBLE pre loaded features
Instead of the truth YOU WILL 100% NOT HAVE THESE FEATURES AT ALL
So while they still give you a slight misguided warning it doesn't help
On the other note it is possible to backup you TA folder prior to unlocking your bootloader (with root access)
So you WILL be able to restore to stock at a later date and relock your bootloader
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manemzjum said:
Did you really go searching the Sony website just to post that lol
Like how they say doing so MAY RESULT IN INACCESSIBLE pre loaded features
Instead of the truth YOU WILL 100% NOT HAVE THESE FEATURES AT ALL
So while they still give you a slight misguided warning it doesn't help
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No I didn't go searching, I remember reading it when I unlocked my bootloader. You must of missed it.
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I was torn between this and the LG G3, it was the phenomenal battery life of this that finally swung it.
Cons : OK, it's too big. For me the hot spot is about 4.7" I think it's a little big to comfortably fit in my pocket.
Pros : where to start, it's truly a brilliant device in almost all ways, battery life is brilliant (7 hours sot is achievable), camera fantastic.
Certainly given the choice I'd buy either the Z2 or maybe Z2 mini at the drop of a hat.
yep definitely awesome phone
Yeah my previous phones were all HTC, and I think I will stick with Sony for a while.
For me the best thing of the xperia z2 is that you can get one of the most awesomes phones for only $400, last time I spent $650 on my HTC One and I don't think it was worth it as it devaluated really quickly. The other great pros of the Z2 is the 3200mah battery and the fact that is waterproof is the feature that makes it different from all the other phones
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I splurged 800 on an unlocked Z2 about 8 months ago. I have to say I love the phone.
Great camera(HTC owners get envious sometimes)
Good battery life(loaded with apps I get about 28 hours regularly with moderate use. Once went 52 hours on a single charge without using stamina mode)
Microsd card slot is great to expand memory
Overall the phone is a real power house. Loads games quickly and keeps multiple apps running in the background with ease. Only thing I regret was not doing enough research during rooting process and ended up losing DRM keys in the process. Otherwise I would spend another 800 on a Z2 or Z3.
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Thanks for the input, do you find that the sound quality is lacking like some other users implied? Like the speaker and the microphone?
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Thanks for the input, do you find that the sound quality is lacking like some other users implied? Like the speaker and the microphone?
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I haven't had issues with the speaker or the microphone. If anything I do wish that the phone would be a little louder when taking calls. I have the volume maxed out but I wouldn't mind it being just a tad louder. Then again it might just me because I think all phones should be a little louder. But otherwise everything seems nice and clear.
One issue I recently found was that my proximity sensor does not play well with long hair. I have been growing my hair out and because it is starting to go over my ears the phone can't detect my ear being close to the handset so my check presses random settings and stuff.
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I haven't had issues with the speaker or the microphone. If anything I do wish that the phone would be a little louder when taking calls. I have the volume maxed out but I wouldn't mind it being just a tad louder. Then again it might just me because I think all phones should be a little louder. But otherwise everything seems nice and clear.
One issue I recently found was that my proximity sensor does not play well with long hair. I have been growing my hair out and because it is starting to go over my ears the phone can't detect my ear being close to the handset so my check presses random settings and stuff.
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Gotcha, I guess I can get used to the volume not being as loud... afterall, I've been using a Nokia E72 for quite a while and the ear speaker or speaker phone volume is below par when compared to most smartphones I've listened to.
THat sounds a bit frustrating that the proximity sensor will trigger and random settings will change while using your phone on your ears.
I also wanted to thank all input, from everyone, really helped me out a lot.
I'm straying away from the G pro 2 now, the price is holding high for that device and the community here seems to be more active.
One more question, do you guys know if the Xperia Z2 has a stylus note taking app from Sony? I believe I saw a video of the Z ultra having an app from Sony that would let you take free style notes with a stylus, looked handy, I was wondering if that app could be had on the Z2 as well.
Yeah but I only notice the issue when I have my hair between the phone and my ear. Never happened while my hair was cut short.
As far as taking notes I am not sure if the sony app can be ported to the z2 but I do know evernote can do handwritten notes. You would just need to get a stylus that works for the z2.
So, I'll lead off by saying that I don't think I'm keeping this phone past the 90 day return policy from Lowes. It's very chunky and more importantly, the camera is only OK and the screen, although way better, and brighter, than I thought it would be, still doesn't hold a candle to an amoled screen..
What I want to talk about is performance and battery life/charging.
I know this is using a mid tier processor but I haven't been having any issues whatsoever. It's amazing the crop that Samsung and LG dump on top of android that I've gotten used to.. I feel this thing running faster than the note 7 and v20 that I'd been using recently...
The battery is superb... Amazing. Fantastic.. I don't know what else to say... Even with the screen on it seems to sip such a small amount of battery life... Obviously though, its a 4000 man battery, but still... I feel like I'm getting even more than I should... And ridiculously, for some reason, charging is a ton faster than the note 7 and v20... I don't get it...
Anyway, I think this phone is really good. For me it's just not a keeper but for many i think it may be perfect.
I'm getting mine on december 21, so can't tell if your issues are dealbreakers for me as well.
But from other complaints it sounds like mainly things that can be improved through software. Camera being the exception, although a lot can still be done there. Still looking forward to trying it out, but I have tempered my expectations.
Sounds great with battery though. I'm one of the people that decry the loss of removable batteries on phones, as it is much easier to bring a small extra battery, rather than a full battery pack and/or charger.
I agree, the super amoled screen on the Honor Note 8 is so much better. I just send the Phab 2 Pro back to Lenovo.
Dealbreakers for me was:
- Bigger and heavyer than my Honor Note 8.
- No theme support
- Poor camera
- Average display
- Loose power button (you can hear it when you shake your phone)
- No split-screen multitasking mode
I don't mind the phone being chunky. Matter of fact I kind of prefer it. After owning both the Xperia Z Ultra and the Zenfone 3 Ultra I find that they are almost too thin. The Xperia more than the Zenfone. I actually went through 3 Xperias because they bent and cracked in my pocket. Having a screen this big means it needs a body to help support it. I agree on the camera, however I do think after the last software update it is getting better. I find that using the lenovo camera app takes adequate pictures, still not on par with some better phones, but good enough.
How is the Zenphone 3 ultra? Still didnt but it, because the specs are not so great (1080p screen).
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How is the Zenphone 3 ultra? Still didnt but it, because the specs are not so great (1080p screen).
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Love it better than the Lenovo. The screen isn't bad at all. Actually think it looks better than the Lenovo. I only have two issues with it. The finger print sensor, while very accurate, is on the front button so sometimes gets a little hard to get use to. Second, there is lack of North American LTE bands. AT&T's HSPA network lacks in my area. To the point that the phone is unusable unless on WiFi.
This phone's got great battery life. Took it off the charger 20 hours ago, carried it on a 900 mile road trip, all radios on. 3p minutes of phone calls, 10 of video games, 4 hours of listening to music & battery still has 60% (1½ days) remaining.
Hi, I have a Z3C and the problem is that my touchscreen now is busted, though I can still use it by rotating the screen.
It started on the upper extremities of the LCD, I became annoyed and tried the "lighter fix" for LG G2, which didn't work great for me. Touchscreen got way worse, wtf am i expecting applying 3k volts of static electricity.
I'm torn between replacing the screen or getting a z5c instead. Though my z3c somewhat slows down now, it is still usable and OK for me.
I know that if i replace my LCD, it will not be as good as before, so I'm thinking about that.
And if I get a z5c, i don't know the little issues, or if they were resolved with .11 update. Even small physical build issues concern me and I can't find a comprehensive list of issues. Also, screen replacement will cost me just around 20% of a new z5c unit, or maybe i could get a 2nd hand one.
Please share your thoughts, should I go for z5c? Or other brands (around 4.7 inches also)? Or screen replacement?
Thanks!
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Hi, I have a Z3C and the problem is that my touchscreen now is busted, though I can still use it by rotating the screen.
It started on the upper extremities of the LCD, I became annoyed and tried the "lighter fix" for LG G2, which didn't work great for me. Touchscreen got way worse, wtf am i expecting applying 3k volts of static electricity.
I'm torn between replacing the screen or getting a z5c instead. Though my z3c somewhat slows down now, it is still usable and OK for me.
I know that if i replace my LCD, it will not be as good as before, so I'm thinking about that.
And if I get a z5c, i don't know the little issues, or if they were resolved with .11 update. Even small physical build issues concern me and I can't find a comprehensive list of issues. Also, screen replacement will cost me just around 20% of a new z5c unit, or maybe i could get a 2nd hand one.
Please share your thoughts, should I go for z5c? Or other brands (around 4.7 inches also)? Or screen replacement?
Thanks!
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I dont really know how did you get to a conclution on little bugs of z5c? has no bugs whatso ever , in fact go watch youtube videos about it , most of the known youtubers like linus concider the Z5C the best compact phone out there ...
also replacing a screen in its own manufacture is not wrong or bad and they wouldnt put a bad screen or "not as good" I could be wrong , but I already replaced my older phone Z2 screen twice and I didnt see any difference...
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I dont really know how did you get to a conclution on little bugs of z5c? has no bugs whatso ever , in fact go watch youtube videos about it , most of the known youtubers like linus concider the Z5C the best compact phone out there ...
also replacing a screen in its own manufacture is not wrong or bad and they wouldnt put a bad screen or "not as good" I could be wrong , but I already replaced my older phone Z2 screen twice and I didnt see any difference...
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Well every phone out there has issues, some of them can be found only with everyday use. I've heard overheating, screen self crack and bad battery performance for z5c. But overheating and bad battery performance can be fixed with software, but not the screen cracking.. I think you get the point. Those little quirks.
About the LCD replacement, most of those comes from china. And I've seen so many issues with friends with replacement screens (non-OEM). This ranges from low brightness, touch responsiveness, bad color reproduction to flat-out touch failure in 3 weeks after installment. Yeah, so I'm quite worried about that since technicians will have different prices for "replacement", "class A" and "original" (original but not OEM, wtf).
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Well every phone out there has issues, some of them can be found only with everyday use. I've hear overheating, screen self crack.
About the LCD replacement, most of those comes from china. And I've seen so many issues with friends with replacement screens (non-OEM). This ranges from low brightness, touch responsiveness, bad color reproduction to flat-out touch failure in 3 weeks after installment. Yeah, so I'm quite worried about that since technicians will have different prices for "replacement", "class A" and "original" (original but not OEM, wtf).
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I dont know how it works in your country ( I dont know where youre from either lol) if you send your phone to its original manufacture in your own country and pay them lots of money to fix it they should install original and if its not like that then buy the z5c if you want , seriously check youtube videos about it from well known youtubers its the best besides some times over heating in high level of usage (like gaming etc...)
I believe there to be a serious component issue with the touchscreen panel of the Z3C, "gate" level serious. There's way too high a percentage of people reporting touchscreens that die right after the 1 year mark, just out of warranty. Getting a replacement just means that it will most likely die again after a year or so, because it's the same faulty component, and (at least here in my country) they don't guarantee waterproofing after repairs which is really unacceptable after asking for around $130 in repair fees. Not to mention that it's obviously a flaw with Sony hardware, but they deny it and refuses to take responsibility, so the cost of repair is passed on to the victims, us.
Coming from Z3C, you will find the battery life of the Z5C disappointing, even with moderate to light use. Then there's the problem of the POS S810, so the phone is constantly throttling and overheating. It's really a shame, because I otherwise think the gorgeous design of the Z5C is the pinnacle of the Omnibalance language. There are real noticeable improvements to many of the small quirks I had with my Z3C, like the overly rounded edges that eats into my fingers with prolonged handling, non-exposed USB port, dual speaker cutouts that are really dust holders (Z5C elegantly placed them at the edges)... etc. Whether the trade-offs are worth it are based on your personal usage habits and wish list.
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I believe there to be a serious component issue with the touchscreen panel of the Z3C, "gate" level serious. There's way too high a percentage of people reporting touchscreens that die right after the 1 year mark, just out of warranty. Getting a replacement just means that it will most likely die again after a year or so, because it's the same faulty component, and (at least here in my country) they don't guarantee waterproofing after repairs which is really unacceptable after asking for around $130 in repair fees. Not to mention that it's obviously a flaw with Sony hardware, but they deny it and refuses to take responsibility, so the cost of repair is passed on to the victims, us.
Coming from Z3C, you will find the battery life of the Z5C disappointing, even with moderate to light use. Then there's the problem of the POS S810, so the phone is constantly throttling and overheating. It's really a shame, because I otherwise think the gorgeous design of the Z5C is the pinnacle of the Omnibalance language. There are real noticeable improvements to many of the small quirks I had with my Z3C, like the overly rounded edges that eats into my fingers with prolonged handling, non-exposed USB port, dual speaker cutouts that are really 2 dust holders (Z5C elegantly placed them at the edges)... etc. Whether the trade-offs are worth it are based on your personal usage habits and wish list.
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Though i'm turned off by the larger besel of z5c
Also, there is no magnetic charging which should be a main selling point IMHO.
But is the throttling and overheating solved by the update or custom rom? Pls link me to the POS S810 issue, i dont know what that is.
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Though i'm turned off by the larger besel of z5c
Also, there is no magnetic charging which should be a main selling point IMHO.
But is the throttling and overheating solved by the update or custom rom? Pls link me to the POS S810 issue, i dont know what that is.
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Larger bezel? Do you mean the slightly more disproportionate top and bottom bezels due to the lower screen placement compared to the Z3C? Because both are literally the same in screen size with nearly identical length and width dimensions.
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/size/Sony-Xperia-Z3-Compact,Sony-Xperia-Z5-Compact/phones/8744,9611
I've been using the Z5C for 8 months, and I've never been bothered by or noticed the display being lower. And that's coming from more than a year of use of Z3C, and the Z1C before that, which were both more symmetrical.
Initially I was also disappointed with the exclusion of the magnetic port, but only a few weeks in and I haven't missed it since. Having the exposed USB port at the center bottom really helps, and I favor having a seamless edge that again doesn't eat into my skin over the convenience of a charging port that only sees use when I'm not using the phone, which as I mentioned is rendered moot by the ease of access of the USB port. I bought a DK-52 dock for charging and never had problems docking it with ease, although I had imagined it would be problematic.
As for "POS S810", I mean "piece of **** Snapdragon 810" SoC. See here: http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2015/04/in-depth-with-the-snapdragon-810s-heat-problems/
Or you can Google around "snapdragon 810 overheat", in short this silicon is ****. Sony's done their best (arguably the best out of all manufacturers) to mitigate the impact, but in the end there's only so much you can do to workaround an inherently poor hardware design.
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As for the question of throttling and overheating solved by updates, there doesn't seem to be a decisive or conclusive evidence of that. With each new update, it seems there's always people reporting better battery/improved thermal alongside people saying it's worse or no change. Yes, there are mods/ROMs claiming to fix the battery and heat issues, whether or not they actually make a difference is more of a personal usage thing, you have to try them out for yourself and see if they work for you.
It may sound like I'm hating on the Z5C, but on the contrary I actually love my Z5C. It's just that after using the Z3C, high expectations have been set but the Z5C failed to deliver on some accounts, mainly the battery and thermal issues. Otherwise, I genuinely felt it was a worthy upgrade over the Z3C. I've come to accept that I won't be getting the same outstanding battery performance of the Z3C, but that's not to say that it isn't great on its own merits. Also consider that the Z3 series are pretty much dead since they're not getting official Android 7.0 support, while the Z5 series are still on the upgrade list, albeit now at the lowest priority compared to the more recent models.
So to sum it up, I don't think it's worth investing in a screen replacement that may still break after a year, not to mention potentially losing the waterproofing. The Z5C may be the next logical step after the Z3C, but has problems of its own. You need to decide if the drawbacks are worth it. At least it's been a little over a year since the phone's release, and there seems to be no (mass) reports of dying touchscreens. Yet. So it's got that going for it, which is something I suppose.
This phone is still very good despite its few hiccups. It over heats when shooting long videos or playing graphic-heavy games (many phones will over heat too), i dont know z3c battery life but with my z5 i get minimum 5rs sot wen browsing the web, minimum 4hrs when playing plants vs zombies heroes, minimum 4hrs streaming videos, on light useage i get minimum 2days... Remember i say minimum.
The camera is not great on low light conditions but it is superb in daylight. Its performance is snappy, water resistance is not a gimmick, speaker volume is loud enough although i was not impressed with headphone volume n sound until i installed another app.
The phone is worth it, not perfect though.
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Larger bezel? Do you mean the slightly more disproportionate top and bottom bezels due to the lower screen placement compared to the Z3C? Because both are literally the same in screen size with nearly identical length and width dimensions.
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/size/Sony-Xperia-Z3-Compact,Sony-Xperia-Z5-Compact/phones/8744,9611
I've been using the Z5C for 8 months, and I've never been bothered by or noticed the display being lower. And that's coming from more than a year of use of Z3C, and the Z1C before that, which were both more symmetrical.
Initially I was also disappointed with the exclusion of the magnetic port, but only a few weeks in and I haven't missed it since. Having the exposed USB port at the center bottom really helps, and I favor having a seamless edge that again doesn't eat into my skin over the convenience of a charging port that only sees use when I'm not using the phone, which as I mentioned is rendered moot by the ease of access of the USB port. I bought a DK-52 dock for charging and never had problems docking it with ease, although I had imagined it would be problematic.
As for "POS S810", I mean "piece of **** Snapdragon 810" SoC. See here: http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2015/04/in-depth-with-the-snapdragon-810s-heat-problems/
Or you can Google around "snapdragon 810 overheat", in short this silicon is ****. Sony's done their best (arguably the best out of all manufacturers) to mitigate the impact, but in the end there's only so much you can do to workaround an inherently poor hardware design.
*EDIT BELOW*
As for the question of throttling and overheating solved by updates, there doesn't seem to be a decisive or conclusive evidence of that. With each new update, it seems there's always people reporting better battery/improved thermal alongside people saying it's worse or no change. Yes, there are mods/ROMs claiming to fix the battery and heat issues, whether or not they actually make a difference is more of a personal usage thing, you have to try them out for yourself and see if they work for you.
It may sound like I'm hating on the Z5C, but on the contrary I actually love my Z5C. It's just that after using the Z3C, high expectations have been set but the Z5C failed to deliver on some accounts, mainly the battery and thermal issues. Otherwise, I genuinely felt it was a worthy upgrade over the Z3C. I've come to accept that I won't be getting the same outstanding battery performance of the Z3C, but that's not to say that it isn't great on its own merits. Also consider that the Z3 series are pretty much dead since they're not getting official Android 7.0 support, while the Z5 series are still on the upgrade list, albeit now at the lowest priority compared to the more recent models.
So to sum it up, I don't think it's worth investing in a screen replacement that may still break after a year, not to mention potentially losing the waterproofing. The Z5C may be the next logical step after the Z3C, but has problems of its own. You need to decide if the drawbacks are worth it. At least it's been a little over a year since the phone's release, and there seems to be no (mass) reports of dying touchscreens. Yet. So it's got that going for it, which is something I suppose.
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OK, I'm getting a Z5C tomorrow LOL. What I'm saying about the bezels is that the large bezel at the top is turning me off somewhat (I think z3c has the perfect size), but that is just me nit-picking on stuff, it doesn't really matter on daily use.
About the USB port, I'm just scared of it physically breaking, or just being lose or having bad metal contact. I had this problem before so I'm kinda always worried about ports which are like usb. On the other hand, the magnetic charging just holds the cable and the phone with a magnet, so I don't need to worry that I may damage it when someone accidentally applies force the wrong way to the cable/phone. BTW I did not use the dock on Z3C, just some cheap magnetic cable. Anyway that is fine I can live without it.
Another thing, I read in gsmarena that the usb port has a waterproof coating so that it can be submerged in water? Got any more info on that? Just curious here.
BTW my Z3C now is not water-proof anymore since I went full retard (I squeezed the phone while under water, destroyed the mic, so I got it fixed).
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This phone is still very good despite its few hiccups. It over heats when shooting long videos or playing graphic-heavy games (many phones will over heat too), i dont know z3c battery life but with my z5 i get minimum 5rs sot wen browsing the web, minimum 4hrs when playing plants vs zombies heroes, minimum 4hrs streaming videos, on light useage i get minimum 2days... Remember i say minimum.
The camera is not great on low light conditions but it is superb in daylight. Its performance is snappy, water resistance is not a gimmick, speaker volume is loud enough although i was not impressed with headphone volume n sound until i installed another app.
The phone is worth it, not perfect though.
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I think heating when using phone (games, browser, video) is normal. Is that is what supposed to be the overheating issue? My z3c heats up when using chrome too, and that is fine with me. What is not fine is like when I'm just reading an ebook or just calling then it heats like crazy. I just use my phone for texts, calls, ebook, RSS feeds, some browsing.
Camera is also fine with me, I'm not really a picture-everywhere guy, I rarely use it so its just a plus =).
The exposed USB port is waterproof, that's the great thing about it. Just don't use it while under water or after it's been submerged in water, you still need to let it dry out. So with the Z5C, unless you're frequently changing SIM or microSD cards, the only flap will stay closed for like 99% of its lifetime and the chance of it being water damaged due to the flap becoming worn and torn or improperly closed is minimal.
All phones get warm when you're executing high load tasks, but it can get borderline melting with S810 phones. Seriously, in certain situations it can get really uncomfortable to hold, no to mention there's the throttling to prevent it from self destructing, so you'd also be experiencing degraded performance while handling a hot brick. It won't happen with casual phone calls, browsing, texting, snapping a photo or two... but if you're doing intensive stuff like playing heavily encoded videos or resource hungry games, you'll feel the heat and see some stuttering thanks to the throttling. A personal experience, I once tried viewing an anime in 1080p that's probably encoded with advanced codecs on my Z5C, after a few minutes it starting burning my hands and became unwatchable, lagging like crazy. No doubt it's because the decoder and real time down-scaling of the resolution to 720p needed full processing power.
With your usage though, you will probably rarely experience it. Might get lucky if you loaded up a poorly optimized rich media website or something, but not likely.
A new z3c is.the best option. Z5c lags a lot because of 810.
I got my z5c.
Z3C looks a lot more better aesthetically. But, oh well, thanks for the replies!
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I got my z5c.
Z3C looks a lot more better aesthetically. But, oh well, thanks for the replies!
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I'll agree with that. The Z5C's slightly bigger top bezel does bug me, or at least did when I still had my Z3C and could see them side-by-side. It's also slightly more boring looking than the Z3C. Other than that, though, I think the Z5C is far more comfortable to hold than the Z3C, and I haven't noticed mine lagging any more than the Z3C did. After flashing the X Compact's camera APK, the camera is also far more responsive, which is great when you have two little kids around like I do.
Same thing happened to my z3 compact and I replaced the digitizer/lcd myself with a kit. No problems except that months later, the screen started peeling up because of the stickers not holding fast. Finally decided to order an X Compact and returned it immediately. Just didn't like the look/feel.
I didn't want to buy another z3c so I purchased a z5c off of swappa. So far, I'm very happy with it. Still waiting to see how it does on battery life but the phone is beautiful. IMO, the best reason to upgrade from the z3c is the fingerprint scanner.
Damn!!!! I have the same problem with the z3c screen, and the same concerns: should i fix it or should i upgrade (of course to z5c, the only one who seems comparable)?
I have not decided yet... I really love my z3c
@ wakoko79 : what are your impressions of your new device? Especially battery and heat/lag.
Thanks
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Damn!!!! I have the same problem with the z3c screen, and the same concerns: should i fix it or should i upgrade (of course to z5c, the only one who seems comparable)?
I have not decided yet... I really love my z3c
@ wakoko79 : what are your impressions of your new device? Especially battery and heat/lag.
Thanks
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Lag lag lag and battery epic. As i said in the previous post, 810 epic fail.
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Lag lag lag and battery epic. As i said in the previous post, 810 epic fail.
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Agreed. I previously owned a Z5C. I hated how much it heated doing simple tasks (browsing internet, updating apps, ...) they didn't need to be CPU intensive to get hot. I always felt a little uneasy that the heat would cause a battery failure if I let it get hot enough since the heat would run down the back side of the battery. It wouldn't be terribly hot but it was hotter than a phone should get. I then purchased an XC which has a "comparatively" powerful CPU and that thing barely ever gets warm and it has yet to get as hot as my Z5C did just updating 3 apps in a row.
I would have suggested an XC but the Z5C did well when using it. Congrats, I hope the Z5C roms can get that non-stock Camera figured out.
z3 was a great phone. i owned one but was broken so i upgraded. z5 c is similar but is a little faster to me. the camera options are improved and the z5c camera is better both front and back. Plus the z5c is 32g internal vs the z3c which is 16. z5c also has a finger print scanner that works great. z5c updates are going to be better than the z3c in my opinion. z5c gets warm but it's never really bothered me especially with a case.
z5c is hands down better.
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I was owner almost all of flagsip phones
I have never fell so somooth working phone
props:
1. very good battery about 7h SoT
2.buttery smooth
3.max britness, clarity of screen
4.fingerprint scanner accurate
5.main sensor and focus
6.WARP charge
7.quick 30W non cable charge
cons:
1.curved edges
2.speaker phones
3.call quality could be better
4.green tint in black areas (could be fix in software update)
5. lack of always on display (could be in future software update)
assume:
really good phone , better than my beloved pixel 4XL
oooh yeah!
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Finally got my dbrand skins through and my fit bag so got it all together ,had the same combination on my one plus 6t but that had just a Matt black skin,went for swarm this time and it looks great.Works for me fit bag for when in pocket ,skin and no SP when out of the pocket
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Ok, here is my thoughts so far coming from a Note 10 Plus.
I must say I miss the wideness of the note in my hand, this phone is the same length wise but about a quarter inch thinner. It doesn't feel as comfortable in my hand. I don't care for the two button shutdown, would prefer the right button was just that, a power button. Going to have to retrain my brain for right side power again.
They have put a manual three position switch just above the power button for sound/vibrate/silent. Seems unnecessary to me and I don't see myself using it much. Just as easy to use the pull down menu.
I live in Florida and had the phone overheat outdoors yesterday. That is not a good thing. First phone I have ever had that happen to for regular outdoor use. Might be a deal breaker.
I find the phone snappy and played a number of hours of COD mobile last night at highest settings and the phone handled it with ease. No complaints there, plenty of power.
Wireless android auto works! Yes!
Going to take a while to get used to the new OS settings menus but so far pretty straight forward. I use Nova Launcher so not alot different in reality.
Charging is quick, battery life is on par with Note.
I find the display more vibrant and clearer than the note. I have it maxed and this may be costing me a lot of battery, time will tell.
I found the packaging lacking in spiffs like headphones and extras like transfer dongles etc. For the price it should include somethings of this nature.
Cases are few and far between, seems they were caught with their pants down with a design change.
Dual sim IS NOT WORKING. Upsetting because that is the primary reason I bought it.
You are going to go through growing pains with Verizon. You can use the chat function and just tell them to "engage CDMA-less provisioning" and they will get it sorted.
Overall I would give it a 7 out of 10. That may change if the heat issue is addressed and dual sim.
The manual switch for volume is very handy for social environments where using the phone is bad manners. You can check if your phone is silent without taking it out of your pocket, and silence it In your pocket.
It s a feature i will miss if i move away from oneplus someday.
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Ok, here is my thoughts so far coming from a Note 10 Plus.
I must say I miss the wideness of the note in my hand, this phone is the same length wise but about a quarter inch thinner. It doesn't feel as comfortable in my hand. I don't care for the two button shutdown, would prefer the right button was just that, a power button. Going to have to retrain my brain for right side power again.
They have put a manual three position switch just above the power button for sound/vibrate/silent. Seems unnecessary to me and I don't see myself using it much. Just as easy to use the pull down menu.
I live in Florida and had the phone overheat outdoors yesterday. That is not a good thing. First phone I have ever had that happen to for regular outdoor use. Might be a deal breaker.
I find the phone snappy and played a number of hours of COD mobile last night at highest settings and the phone handled it with ease. No complaints there, plenty of power.
Wireless android auto works! Yes!
Going to take a while to get used to the new OS settings menus but so far pretty straight forward. I use Nova Launcher so not alot different in reality.
Charging is quick, battery life is on par with Note.
I find the display more vibrant and clearer than the note. I have it maxed and this may be costing me a lot of battery, time will tell.
I found the packaging lacking in spiffs like headphones and extras like transfer dongles etc. For the price it should include somethings of this nature.
Cases are few and far between, seems they were caught with their pants down with a design change.
Dual sim IS NOT WORKING. Upsetting because that is the primary reason I bought it.
You are going to go through growing pains with Verizon. You can use the chat function and just tell them to "engage CDMA-less provisioning" and they will get it sorted.
Overall I would give it a 7 out of 10. That may change if the heat issue is addressed and dual sim.
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Why did you switch from the note 10 plus? You don't need the spen?
I need dual sim....
Well, I got Oneplus 8 pro finally.
Only two days, but so far so good - I like the speed and haven't seen any significant problems.
Hello everyone,
So this is my second day with my one plus 8 pro, had my eye on this company since their first release one plus one, but for me, it was all about the quality and the build, i just switched from my Huawei p20 pro ( i was close to getting the 40 pro but because of google problem I changed my mind and also for their slow updates and the bootloader lock ) so what I like about one plus 8 pro , Display, sound, fingerprint, scanner accuracy, wifi speed, customization, and fast operation, it is really a fast phone
I miss lots of things about my p20 pro
Build quality, camera, notification light, solid phone network connection, the weather app, the split-screen, the hidden app function.
I am still using it and hope one day i fall in love with one plus 8 pro as I did with Huawei.
semsem1969 said:
Hello everyone,
So this is my second day with my one plus 8 pro, had my eye on this company since their first release one plus one, but for me, it was all about the quality and the build, i just switched from my Huawei p20 pro ( i was close to getting the 40 pro but because of google problem I changed my mind and also for their slow updates and the bootloader lock ) so what I like about one plus 8 pro , Display, sound, fingerprint, scanner accuracy, wifi speed, customization, and fast operation, it is really a fast phone
I miss lots of things about my p20 pro
Build quality, camera, notification light, solid phone network connection, the weather app, the split-screen, the hidden app function.
I am still using it and hope one day i fall in love with one plus 8 pro as I did with Huawei.
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There's a hidden app function in the oneplus 8 pro (just place two fingers on a blank area of the screen and stretch out). Plenty of weather apps on the Play Store although, if you're particular about what weather app to use (there are good and bad ones) you could try TodayWeather which I've recently installed and has more or less replaced my old app (DarkSky) for functionality and presentation.
themadman1001 said:
There's a hidden app function in the oneplus 8 pro (just place two fingers on a blank area of the screen and stretch out). Plenty of weather apps on the Play Store although, if you're particular about what weather app to use (there are good and bad ones) you could try TodayWeather which I've recently installed and has more or less replaced my old app (DarkSky) for functionality and presentation.
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Thank you, the apps were the easy part, now I am having an issue with poor wifi reception, overheating and sluggish performance something with the memory, the gallery will not open smoothly
Reset the phone or clear cache didn't fix it
I am honestly thinking it was a big mistake buying this phone..
hope they can fix their issues soon
Best device ever.
end of story.
semsem1969 said:
Thank you, the apps were the easy part, now I am having an issue with poor wifi reception, overheating and sluggish performance something with the memory, the gallery will not open smoothly
Reset the phone or clear cache didn't fix it
I am honestly thinking it was a big mistake buying this phone..
hope they can fix their issues soon
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hows your experience on the phone.
xnostra said:
hows your experience on the phone.
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To be honest, If they fix all the issues like overheating, power drain, wifi, and data connection it will be a great phone.
I love the display, speed, sound and the camera ( it takes good pictures)
I am waiting for software updates and hope they will be fixed soon if not, it will be for sale on eBay.
Honestly other than the better camera and wireless charging I prefer the OP7 Pro/7t Pro.
arsenal74 said:
Honestly other than the better camera and wireless charging I prefer the OP7 Pro/7t Pro.
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Why?
1 - The slightly wider aspect ratio. (Think we need to move away from the diagonal to categorise screen size but that is a whole other conversation)
2 - No cut out
3 - No screen burn-in issues
4 - No green tint/black crush issues
5 - GCAM really improves the 7 pro camera and does not seem to do the same for 8 pro, therefore a 7 pro with gcam is pretty close at least on the main lens
6 - Prefer the blue to the green
Yes the 8 Pro is better overall for sure but right now the 7 pro is almost half the price so when you factor in cost too I think I prefer the 7 pro. To qualify, I have owned an 8 pro and then re-purchased a 7 pro.
XDA_RealLifeReview said:
Yes, yes, it's possible to love a phone. Heck, you sleep next to it, don't you? Rate this thread to indicate your love for the OnePlus 8 Pro, all things considered. A higher rating indicates that the OnePlus 8 Pro is an incredible phone that you enjoy tremendously. You love it.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
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Hey. I agree this is a cool gadget. she used it for a long time and was very pleased
anything that sony got wrong, from build quality to processor overheating. i am interested in buying my first sony smartphone, so would like to see if its a wise investment.
like with any other product today, it really depends what you are after. In absolute terms, there's no device that should score more than 6/10 if you really go nip ticking around every single detail.
With that said, I really hate holes in the screen, so reason #1, then I really like SD card, not because I need 3TB of storage but because I keep all the stuff that I need on SD and if phone breaks it is an easy solution. So that's #2.
The main complaint seem to be overheating, but that happens with recording/taking pictures. Not sure, never happened to me because I don't care about cameras on phone. Every one in the last 5 years is decent enough for casual photo and every single one sucks in comparison to a proper camera for half the price.
Now, build quality seems great, but it's been just 2 months. XZ2 I had for 4 years and that was a tank so if this one is that good than no complaints.
Also. I could list 20 features that ppl will argue about and I find them completely irrelevant. I paid for the undamaged screen and SD card slot first, the rest I could get for 1/3 of the price of mark IV. Screen I could get on some gaming phone or under display camera one but those don't have SD. And many chinese phones still have USB 2 so.......
I agree with nearly everything @kinggo2 wrote, I don't really dislike holes in the screen. But I must say Sony has done well to get rid of those massive bezels of the past. The phone did heat up a bit when I started using it. It
seems to have learnt my usage case and doesn't heat up as much. I love the fact that it does have a sdcard slot and a headphone jack. I also just store stuff on a card and move the card when I get a new phone. The only thing I miss is an FM radio which I still listen to. I can get around this by streaming. My Z5 Premium and Z2 are still good and work. That said, the price is high. I justified it by saying it was a good deal because I got a free set of WH-1000XM4 cans with the phone. Phones are a depreciating asset, but if you don't like the price, see whether the 5 IV suits you. And yes, I would recommend it.
I'd recommend buying it over the exynos S22+....laggy, overrated phone...the Xperia is smooth as silk in comparison
Now, No, see these threads :
Xperia overheating problem
Hello. I am following user experiences with this phone and lately i have saw that many people have started to complain about its overheating thing. I have almost bought this phone recently but after i saw that this is maybe not i software issue...
forum.xda-developers.com
How long can you film with VideoPro before autostop[Yellow Triangle Overheat]?
Hi, I have been fighting with my carrier who provided me my Xperia I.V in a pack (Altice) , because of the disfunctional Photo/video parts , since june : after a few manipulations on the settings for video or photo , the yellow triangle already...
forum.xda-developers.com
invasion13 said:
Now, No, see these threads :
Xperia overheating problem
Hello. I am following user experiences with this phone and lately i have saw that many people have started to complain about its overheating thing. I have almost bought this phone recently but after i saw that this is maybe not i software issue...
forum.xda-developers.com
How long can you film with VideoPro before autostop[Yellow Triangle Overheat]?
Hi, I have been fighting with my carrier who provided me my Xperia I.V in a pack (Altice) , because of the disfunctional Photo/video parts , since june : after a few manipulations on the settings for video or photo , the yellow triangle already...
forum.xda-developers.com
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so what is the culprit ? the processor ?
Fytdyh said:
so what is the culprit ? the processor ?
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Processor known to heat , case design, and software optimization i guess
So.. I agree with @kinggo2 .. My 2 cents :
All the reviews that weigh battery life / charging speed high are irrelevant to me. As long as no phone can do a week, I am perfectly happy with phones that last a full day on average - which the sony does. I also charge the phone at night - so I dont really care about charging speed. By the way, I had an Asus ROG 5 and while the charging speed was spectacular, the battery capacity degraded rapidly and after 6 months, I could barely use it for 1/2 a day. Many studies show that frequently charging your phone at high wattages reduces battery life.
No other phone has 12GB RAM, 512GB Storage, 4K display, expandable storage, dual sim, close to stock android skin, good camera hardware, 3.5mm jack, front display without camera cutouts - and all that packaged in a sleek 185mg, IP68, matte glass back body that is so much easier to grasp - and I really hate curved displays, which thankfully sony has decided not to do.
If you don't like the default camera app, you can download Gcam for free, and get really awesome single click night photos (low light photos are probably the only area that I concede that the default camera app's basic mode is really bad - everything else is not really that perceptible IMHO)
On principle, I don't buy Apple or Samsung phones. I feel they unfairly enter into deals with the carriers (atleast in the US) to ensure that they remain the dominant manufacturers. It is unfair to the consumers that in the US, it is very hard to get a Xiaomi, POCO, ASUS, Motorola phone and even if you do, connectivity is very poor and 5G will probably not work. Even Sony had to delay US launch probably because they had to put in a different modem. I don't like being bullied by Apple and its fanbase into being forced to use iMessage, AirDrop and Facetime. Lock-in strategies are bad for consumers in general and is a major road-block to innovation.