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Hello guys!
I'm thinking about buying this phone, because my HTC Desire S is dying slowly...
Is it worth buying? Can somebody point me some annoying details/disadvantages? Phone seems to be nice, but I don't want to regret spent money later...
silent_hunter said:
Hello guys!
I'm thinking about buying this phone, because my HTC Desire S is dying slowly...
Is it worth buying? Can somebody point me some annoying details/disadvantages? Phone seems to be nice, but I don't want to regret spent money later...
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i have mine since last week and it´s a good phone
just one thing i don´t like is built full of plastic sory for my english i´m from portugal
not worth it :/
2 days using it, and i'm like: "man, why did i get this phone :/ ?", the camera is really bad, and just one of the chips support 3g, the other is just 2g :/
and as you see, it still doesn't have other roms and etc.
i was needing a dual-chip, and i think we do not have a super nice choice for it :/
if you have the chance, get another htc
Hi,
I'm ex user of htc desire s too.
Mine was broken after my wife smash it to the floor..
Now i'm looking for a new phone,
And when i saw this lg g2 mini, i think it will fits me,,
Another option is asus zenfone 5, but there is no stock here in indonesia
fimk said:
not worth it :/
2 days using it, and i'm like: "man, why did i get this phone :/ ?", the camera is really bad, and just one of the chips support 3g, the other is just 2g :/
and as you see, it still doesn't have other roms and etc.
i was needing a dual-chip, and i think we do not have a super nice choice for it :/
if you have the chance, get another htc
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Eh?
So, can you suggest another brand, models?
silent_hunter said:
Hello guys!
I'm thinking about buying this phone, because my HTC Desire S is dying slowly...
Is it worth buying? Can somebody point me some annoying details/disadvantages? Phone seems to be nice, but I don't want to regret spent money later...
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First thing that you need to consider is what are you looking for in a device, how you'll gonna use it, are you a mobile device gamer, what kind of games do you play on your device, etc. Once you have all your answer, check the details and specification of the device you wanted and verify if it can handle your needs. As for the LG G2 mini, the camera is sub par though it is quite okay for me since I don't take pictures regularly. It may be a mid range device, but it can quite handle some of the new games (not all but some) and HD movies due to the low pixel density of the screen which the gpu does not exert to much effort to load it. There are also some very nice preloaded application that I find it useful such as QuickRemote, QuickApps, Guest Mode, Wireless printing, Radio, Knock Code etc. Almost everything the LG G2 has this device have it also except for the ambient light sensor, notification LED on the power button, Dual Recording, and other unique features that the LG G2 has.
my previous phone were note 2, the screen was too big and I was looking for "optimal" phone for me, but I dont wanted samsung. I found G2 Mini and it's worth to buy, I've him for 3 days. UI is smooth, fast, camera is good, battery life is 3 times longer than note 2
If I will be able to buy that phone second time will I do that ... ?
yes, 7/10 from me,
Small resolution and no LED are big disadvantages, but I can live with it.
Sorry for English, Im not so good
In my opinion most users will be happy with this phone, nice and fast UI, nice gaming experience, good battery etc. but unfortunately there are some problems that excludes this phone from using by some kind of people (like me).
GPS is worse than every device I ever had.
No USB OTG support (LG says that there is no hardware support for that)
No ambient light sensor and no LED indicator.
hello guys ... i am a proud owner of LG G2 ... one of the best phones i ever had ... and im willing to upgrade but im lost between S5 Z2 and One m8, and cant make my mind
i really love the concept of Z2 but im very worried because many people mentioned that they suffer over heating when playing games and shooting videos ... i know i wont be shooting 4k videos ... its just something that i dont need ... at least now .. but what about games and software ... does it really overheat and become uncomfortable to hold ?? what about charging time ... how long does it take to become fully charged ?
what would you recommend ?
especially that i tend to drop my phones alot
I had the same problem and decided to buy the Z2. I have no problems with overheating whatever I do. Software is the best customized android out there. Better than sense or touchwiz. Idk how long it takes to fully charge but not very long at least not longer than on my m7
I would go for the z2. Awesome phone
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It doesnt overheat playing games or other stuff, only 4k recording. M8 is more comfortable in hand, z2 has better package overall.
j_h3000 said:
hello guys ... i am a proud owner of LG G2 ... one of the best phones i ever had ... and im willing to upgrade but im lost between S5 Z2 and One m8, and cant make my mind
i really love the concept of Z2 but im very worried because many people mentioned that they suffer over heating when playing games and shooting videos ... i know i wont be shooting 4k videos ... its just something that i dont need ... at least now .. but what about games and software ... does it really overheat and become uncomfortable to hold ?? what about charging time ... how long does it take to become fully charged ?
what would you recommend ?
especially that i tend to drop my phones alot
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Hello XperiaZ2 user switched from HTC One(m7) here! Overheating while you are playing game isn't a problem, it happens to all phone. (At least my HTC One did) And I am playing HD Youtube everyday but at least I don't get burnt, so it must be okay for you too. Also as 4k is new technology for smartphone, we have to understand it is still not perfect, some user reports that software update solve this overheating problem and I don't feel it too hot.
Yeah I couldn't choose between M8 and Z2 and OnePlus..... but finally I bought XperiaZ2. As they have better spec and price is lower than M8 and I wanted something funny! (Oneplus is good price and good spec, but it's too simple!)
They have shatter proof glass It shouldn't break easily.(I dropped several times, but there is no crack and working fine!)
Yeah XperiaZ2 is really good phone I've used Xperia Z and HTC One(m7) yeah much better than these. I recommend you to go with Sony.
- so you guys all agree that there is no overheat while playing games or some intensive apps ? at least not more than other phones right ?
one more question .. is it easy to scratch ? (does it require special care and should i be worried where and how i place it ?)
please be very honest and i would like to see more opinions please
j_h3000 said:
- so you guys all agree that there is no overheat while playing games or some intensive apps ? at least not more than other phones right ?
one more question .. is it easy to scratch ? (does it require special care and should i be worried where and how i place it ?)
please be very honest and i would like to see more opinions please
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Okay. There is some heating but not as bad as overheating.
As they are using shatter proof glass I can't see scratch with out case and protector.
You take your time and think. Z3 might be coming in few months.... (it's what happend when I bought Xperia Z)
It overheats if there are so many apps running in the background and when you shoot 4K videos.
Charging takes me over 4 hours I thought my charger was faulty but it wasn't I'm using my old samsung charger it takes around 3 hours.
I bought HTC One m8 for my partner and I'm jealous tbh. But I'm happy with my z2 as well. HTC One m8 feeling is a lot better in hand and camera is a lot faster.
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I have left the LG G2 for the Xperia Z2 and glad I did.
I would say it heats up less than the G2 when playing intensive games.
The only thing the G2 had that I wish the Z2 had is knock off. It has knock on, just can't turn off the screen with a double tap :/
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It overheats if there are so many apps running in the background and when you shoot 4K videos.
Charging takes me over 4 hours I thought my charger was faulty but it wasn't I'm using my old samsung charger it takes around 3 hours.
I bought HTC One m8 for my partner and I'm jealous tbh. But I'm happy with my z2 as well. HTC One m8 feeling is a lot better in hand and camera is a lot faster.
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I meant in daily use...... We don't use phone like that...
i've had my Z2 for about a week now and haven't noticed any excessive overheating. i've never had a smartphone that didn't heat up somewhat while playing games and i don't feel the Z2 is any worse than my HTC One M7 was. i prefer Sense's widgets and apps but the interface on the Z2 is quite nice and i am enjoying messing around with the camera. i think i can agree with the reviews in that the Z2 doesn't necessarily beat other phones in any one area but it is solid or even great in all areas. this is probably the first phone i've owned that has all the things i want (front-facing speakers, CAMERA BUTTON, and SD card) and doesn't compromise anywhere.
Conclude:
As HTC One(m7) and Z2 has different Concept so it can't simply compared. And they are different generation.... But I can definitely say Z2 is the one of the best smartphone I've ever had include my Smartphone from Japan..... Anyway you might get overheat problem but you can simply take it back to shop.... (do it before you messed it up with rooting!) As my latest phone is XperiaZ2 this opinion is bit biased, but still it's a good phone.... Some time I feel it big..... it might not be big problem if you are switching from G2....
Give it a try........ You'll love it. ( ･`ω･´)
There is heat on the Z2, but not 'Overheating'. Heats up just as much as any other smartphone out there when gaming. But doesn't get hot to the extent u can make barbecue or scramble eggs on it. And when u are not gaming, it is ice cool (at least, mine is). The Xperia Z2 is the best device i ever used, and i'm not even rooted yet. xD
I have to agree with a lot of the comments already posted.
The phone WILL heat up but it doesn't affect performance in any way.. and it's not excessively heating up more than any other smartphone would...
Also.. This is the first phone where I don't feel it's absolutely necessary to Unlock bootloader and root...
I have been unlocking and rooting all my previous phones because I felt it's essential to do so... S2, S3, Z, Z1...
LaMMi
j_h3000 said:
hello guys ... i am a proud owner of LG G2 ... one of the best phones i ever had ... and im willing to upgrade but im lost between S5 Z2 and One m8, and cant make my mind
i really love the concept of Z2 but im very worried because many people mentioned that they suffer over heating when playing games and shooting videos ... i know i wont be shooting 4k videos ... its just something that i dont need ... at least now .. but what about games and software ... does it really overheat and become uncomfortable to hold ?? what about charging time ... how long does it take to become fully charged ?
what would you recommend ?
especially that i tend to drop my phones alot
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Would suggest z2 without a doubt.
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j_h3000 said:
hello guys ... i am a proud owner of LG G2 ... one of the best phones i ever had ... and im willing to upgrade but im lost between S5 Z2 and One m8, and cant make my mind
i really love the concept of Z2 but im very worried because many people mentioned that they suffer over heating when playing games and shooting videos ... i know i wont be shooting 4k videos ... its just something that i dont need ... at least now .. but what about games and software ... does it really overheat and become uncomfortable to hold ?? what about charging time ... how long does it take to become fully charged ?
what would you recommend ?
especially that i tend to drop my phones alot
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Opinions are subjective. The choice is there. All the mobiles you mention are top models, 'Flag ships', in their brand and function extremely well. All are different and there is no such device as 'the best'. You need to discover what phone will fit your needs.
I change phones about twice a year, sometimes three times. I am a technophile, Its my hobby, my vice. My advice to you would be to see all the mobiles you mention, have a play and make YOUR choice.
I lean toward Sony at present and away from Samsung and HTC. I do this because I FIND the UI on the HTC and the Samsung's too heavy. I PREFERE the UI on the Sony brand. I do find the quality for a flag ship mobile to be well represented by both HTC and Sony. I prefer the Sony only through choice.
I have owned several HTC mobiles and I live out in the countryside where signal strength is poor. HTC so far have been one of the weakest in terms of being able to pick up a signal. The Sony and Samsung also LG have all been fine with Nokia being the most competent in terms of catching signal strength.
I sold my SG Note 3 within weeks. This was MY FAULT, I purchased the phone on pre sale order before I had the chance to even hold one. When I held it, after owning the Sony Xperia Z, I was bitterly disappointed with the phones plastic construction. Plastic leather back with plastic play stitching plus the plastic chrome sides? It just didn't give ME that quality buzz and pride of ownership. My Sony Z Ultra is a quality device that oozes class and quality of materials and construction, size is the problem there.
I now use the nexus 5 and the Sony Xperia Z ultra. I have ordered the Z2 last week and will sell the Nexus 5.
IF the Z2 is built to the same standards the Ultra and Z are then I shall be a very happy person. I miss the UI as the Nexus 5 is not serving my needs even though it also is a very fine mobile indeed.
Please don't read too many forums. If you took notice of the reports, reviews and posts you read on ANY forum you would never dare make another single purchase including the shoes on your feet. All the mobiles you mention are best buys for the owner. Its what your expectations are that counts not mine.
Let us know what you decide on purchasing. Good luck with what ever you buy I am sure you will enjoy your new mobile.
Regards, Ryland
Oh BTW is you seriously drop your phones a lot I would either insure you new phone or NOT purchase ANY phone that price. If you do purchase a flagship phone buy a case and screen saver plus insurance.
to be frank with you ,wait atleast for two more weeks then get the 14w20,21 batch it seems to be ok
shaf46 said:
to be frank with you ,wait atleast for two more weeks then get the 14w20,21 batch it seems to be ok
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How would one ensure that they have this batch?
donalgodon said:
How would one ensure that they have this batch?
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check the batch number in the micro sd port information tray and get some information on the internet, right now im really fed up with sony im so upset that i wouldn't care anymore :/
Just wait mate don't buy it now
I came from a G2 as well, I'll say get whichever is cheaper. They're both about the same. HTC got better speakers and a big dev base (if that's important to you), Z2 has better camera and the waterproof aspect.
Apart from that, both got great battery life, screens are great, build quality great on both devices. Don't worry about the heat issue, anytime u push a phone it gets warm a bit
PiskopatYazar said:
It overheats if there are so many apps running in the background and when you shoot 4K videos.
Charging takes me over 4 hours I thought my charger was faulty but it wasn't I'm using my old samsung charger it takes around 3 hours.
I bought HTC One m8 for my partner and I'm jealous tbh. But I'm happy with my z2 as well. HTC One m8 feeling is a lot better in hand and camera is a lot faster.
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4hrs to charge?? That sucks..
I've had the xperia z2 phone for about 3 weeks now,and i must say its a pretty descent phone. But i cant help asking myself whats so special about this phone that i paid so much for?. Its indisputable that the z2 is a highly spec'd phone with the gorgeous screen and all,but when talking smartphone,its not all the internal specs that matters,the build quality does matter too,which IMO the z2 doesnt possess. I mean come to think of it,z2 is one of the most complained about smartphones out there,not to mention...
~The spaces found between the metal frame and the glass panel,in-which my phone also have + the back glass got replaced,making it more susceptible to water damage and what not!
~The issue of self cracking,although i understand its of minority,but com'on! Its worrying
~Overheating issues,i know this have been addressed already in several places,a phone like the z2 should be able to withstand some average period of 4k recording without overheating,not just few minutes.
~The inability for the other party to hear during calls...well,even though i was able to find a temporary solution to it by flashing a custom ROM,but do all the z2 owners with same problem have to flash custom rom as well? Also,not to talk of the absurd location of the mic.
~And Oh! Did i mention the camera? Well it has a good amount of MegaPixel but seriously,the camera software suuuuuuuuu*cks!! Most especially the superior auto mode. I find myself using the ProCapture more often now. And the other day,I and a friend of mine with an iPhone 5s snapped same photo,and he mocked me 'cos his images were better than mine.
Lastly,i know That no Smartphone is perfect,buy Sony,You could do better than this!!
Anybody on my side?
You cant judge an entire Brand off of one defective Unit
I have never had overheating from 4k
I never have overheating from gaming
The camera is perfectly fine, it isnt perfect in low light but not many phones can do as good as Z2
Self cracking glass? I dont understand how this posible, glass nor aluminum does not expand nor shrink enough to cause self cracking
Spaces, what spaces?
Yes on my previous defective unit had all these problems but since that defective device was replaced i have had no issues at all
Abdl said:
I've had the xperia z2 phone for about 3 weeks now,and i must say its a pretty descent phone. But i cant help asking myself whats so special about this phone that i paid so much for?. Its indisputable that the z2 is a highly spec'd phone with the gorgeous screen and all,but when talking smartphone,its not all the internal specs that matters,the build quality does matter too,which IMO the z2 doesnt possess. I mean come to think of it,z2 is one of the most complained about smartphones out there,not to mention...
~The spaces found between the metal frame and the glass panel,in-which my phone also have + the back glass got replaced,making it more susceptible to water damage and what not!
~The issue of self cracking,although i understand its of minority,but com'on! Its worrying
~Overheating issues,i know this have been addressed already in several places,a phone like the z2 should be able to withstand some average period of 4k recording without overheating,not just few minutes.
~The inability for the other party to hear during calls...well,even though i was able to find a temporary solution to it by flashing a custom ROM,but do all the z2 owners with same problem have to flash custom rom as well? Also,not to talk of the absurd location of the mic.
~And Oh! Did i mention the camera? Well it has a good amount of MegaPixel but seriously,the camera software suuuuuuuuu*cks!! Most especially the superior auto mode. I find myself using the ProCapture more often now. And the other day,I and a friend of mine with an iPhone 5s snapped same photo,and he mocked me 'cos his images were better than mine.
Lastly,i know That no Smartphone is perfect,buy Sony,You could do better than this!!
Anybody on my side?
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You are too naive on this issue. Z2 isn't a bad device in any aspect. True, u have got a defective piece. But that doesnt make everyone else has. I'll answer all your questions.
1. Spaces are coz of defective units. Every manufacturers have this defective units problem when the demand for the phone is higher. You saw iPhone6(bendgate), S5(Overheating and some more), etc.
2. Self cracking? Hardly that's an issue. I haven't seen that in common. Its a rare issue which is likely to occur only @worst case scenarios.
3. My Z2 only heats up when Camera/Games are running, which is normal on any phone. Need i remind u other devices are bulky and include heat sinks which reduce heating and all Xperia's are slimmer than any other brand compared and yet built tough to survive. All slim phones heat more, but in Sony i have never seen an issue caused of heating(Been using Sony mobiles since 2011).
4. About 4k recording, last time i tested 4k i was able to hit 67 mins with custom thermal settings and was using DoomKernel on 314 fw. Device was on 67 degrees max. Still nothing happened. All devices that support 4k heats n this feature can be only used for a temporary time, provided Sony gave max time of usage of 4k.
5. Call problems? Again, since u might hv had a defective unit, the speaker might be faulty or u might have done something wrong with some mods installation or something.
6. About the Camera, PLS LEARN TO USE MANUAL SETTINGS. All phones in Auto mode SUCKS BIG TIME. Even the phones with best camera's. Manual Settings gives u the best results. Ask any professional photgrapher and prove me wrong(I challenge u). BTW i have seen Z2 producing best camera results after Lumia(The one with 41mp). If u doubt me, look at this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2673226
Tell me all those snaps by our Z2 users are LAME.. :silly:
Like Envious_Data said, u cant judge an entire brand jus coz of a defective unit. U might be a lil unlucky, but that doesnt mean SONY isn't a good brand. From my experience, Sony has been the PREMIUM device manufacturer unlike most of the brands.. I suggest u do a lot of reading and do a lot of research and experiment with ur device b4 erasing it off..
Abdl said:
I've had the xperia z2 phone for about 3 weeks now,and i must say its a pretty descent phone. But i cant help asking myself whats so special about this phone that i paid so much for?. Its indisputable that the z2 is a highly spec'd phone with the gorgeous screen and all,but when talking smartphone,its not all the internal specs that matters,the build quality does matter too,which IMO the z2 doesnt possess. I mean come to think of it,z2 is one of the most complained about smartphones out there,not to mention...
~The spaces found between the metal frame and the glass panel,in-which my phone also have + the back glass got replaced,making it more susceptible to water damage and what not!
~The issue of self cracking,although i understand its of minority,but com'on! Its worrying
~Overheating issues,i know this have been addressed already in several places,a phone like the z2 should be able to withstand some average period of 4k recording without overheating,not just few minutes.
~The inability for the other party to hear during calls...well,even though i was able to find a temporary solution to it by flashing a custom ROM,but do all the z2 owners with same problem have to flash custom rom as well? Also,not to talk of the absurd location of the mic.
~And Oh! Did i mention the camera? Well it has a good amount of MegaPixel but seriously,the camera software suuuuuuuuu*cks!! Most especially the superior auto mode. I find myself using the ProCapture more often now. And the other day,I and a friend of mine with an iPhone 5s snapped same photo,and he mocked me 'cos his images were better than mine.
Lastly,i know That no Smartphone is perfect,buy Sony,You could do better than this!!
Anybody on my side?
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-Yes, the spaces are real problem as Sony is already guilty about this from the previous phones. Luckily mine does not have any but that does not change the fact that they exist on many phone
- No idea about that one as I only read 1-2 things about it and never faced it in reality (me, my brother and my sister's husband bought 3 Z2s together and than my sister got an Z3 and none had any problems so far, so no experience on this one)
-Overheating is not an issue about daily usage or even heavy usage. It only matters on video recording because when video recording not only CPU cores and GPU being used at the same time but also camera processor (I don't know how this one is called) is heavily working to "catch" all that detail (simply taking 30, 4MP photos every single second and has to catch the light and decide for each pixel). Other than that I have not witnessed overheating cousing disconfort or slowing to phone down (I tried playing games more than 2 hours).
- Again, I haven't experienced this either. So no comments here.
- Camera software is really good actually, every setting is there but raw format. Only bothering thing is the AI which is supposed to choose the right settings. It behaves too "human-like" and "emotional" thus resulting some unrealistic color reproduction sometimes. So if you have time (Hope it's not a bird that you are trying to catch) and patience, it's best to make manual setting.
Anyway, apart from the subjects you mention, Let's compare what the "rivals" offer;
LG: there is G3. unnecessarily high screen resolution with a result that is not any better than Sony's screen thus also resulting worse battery life and more waste of GPU power. Although I like the design, and the placement of the buttons to the back side, very much; Sony has more premium materials and better camera with better results against the OIS, laser focusing camera of LG's.
Besides, G3 comes with two different amounts of RAM which makes me take the company as "disturbingly arrogant after the succesfull Nexus 4,5 and G2 and quickly forgot the days that they were punished by the customers' wallets because of locked bootloader of Optimus G and other unsuccesfull phones". Still, they choose to make things harder for developers after a very developer friendly G2. I believe there is no match in this land to Sony.
HTC; One (M8). HTC has been trying to bring some changes to the game since long time with their Beats Audio and other audio projects. They also tried to change things in the camera section too. I can't say they are doing bad things but I believe 20.7MP is still has higher capability of catching the light better than dual 4MP, bigger pixel camera. And I also believe (and tested) Sony's sound capabilities are better than HTC's when it comes to headphones (which is what is really important for a true music lover in my opinion. Who can truly enjoy the music from a mobile devices speakers? Want real music, use the jack)
On the chipset performance section, One (M8) is still not a rival to Sony's Z2. Not talking about the battery, it's 2600MAh.
Besides (I don't know if things are different from my One X days) HTC devices come with an extra security to try to prevent you from unlocking bootloader and saving themselves when they need to honor the warranty. After losing my patience over my One X's waiting for an S-OFF solution, I run away from HTC and never looked back (I can't even consider Nexus 9, thinking Nvidia and HTC coming together is like another Saw movie, it scares me). In a world even jailbreaking is legal that is too much for an Android user to accept.
Let's come to Motorola/Google; Nexus 6. It's a great rival, an honorable one. And maybe the only one with the ability of putting a real fight. Still, with that 6" screen it's not everyones cup of cake. Design and the specs are gorgeus, so is the screen. But it's big. I came to Xperia Z2 after a long time Note 2, then Nexus 4 usage and it feels right with 5.2" screen. This one is about preferences though, not the actual spec comparison.
Nexus 6 becomes a real deal with it's AMOLED screen (not calibrated by Samsung thankfully), water ressistance, best CPU&GPU and it's cutting edge software. However, when it comes to one-hand compatibility, MicroSD card expantion chance, camera and soudn quality Sony still has it's advantages.
And finally Samsung; S5 and Note 4. I guess I should take Note 4 into account as it's newer and better. Samsung has fingerprint sensor as different from it's rivals. A nice one to accept.
I understand that Samsung is a hardware making company. So they have to create and sell their hardwares and it's easy to see Quallcomm dominated the market since the Nexus 4 attack. Google did this to unify the market. Since the S4 Pro evey Quallcomm chipset has great similarities on their softwares and drivers, mostly their performance vary. This helps developers to measure their fresh-written apps/games on 1 or 2 devices and easily make sure they will run on many devices out there. It sounds good right? Well, Samsung is always bringing their SoCs to the market and always trying to push the limits (sometimes by cheating on benchmarks). On the raw power side, that could seem as a good thing but on the software side it messes things. As a big part of the market, almost every developer has the feeling to make their game/app compatible with Samsung devices. But they come with different SoCs and Samsung refuses to share their own chipsets' source codes. So they just make everything harder for developers. I guess we all know that a well optimised software is always better than the highest hardware.
One more thing about Samsung, they are first company to open their bootloaders to the public and shared every necessary code on their Galaxy S days. This is how they got so respected and made all that money. So they still have the unlocked bootloader but with some ir-reversable flagging system that flags you if you alter anything as small as a rooting attempt to your system. And then, they claim you out of warranty. Besides, as they refuse to share their source codes for their hardware, most developers have really hard time preparing custom ROMs or early fixes etc. for Samsung phones. So basically, Samsung tells you that "you have a phone which comes with an unlocked bootloader so you can do whatever you want with it.........If you can"
If you are a fan of Samsung's software and policy than it's a good semi-independent eco system in Android world. The S-Pen is also good. However I can not take them anymore after the Note II's hard days, waiting for a simply working AOSP ROM.
I know there are other Android companies but these are best-known ones globally and after that comparison I believe Xperia Z2 started to seem better in your eyes. If still not, I can also remind you;
-Sony is the only company which update kernels too,
-Sony is the only company which provides the AOSP code for their devices (the other compaines rather selling their devices as GPEs but apperiently Google has taken this idea down)
-Xperia Z2 has the best music experience throught the headphones among it's rivals
-One of the best (If not best) cameras out there
-Has that DRM keys problem for the "discoverer" people like us but thanks to our developers there is cure to that.
Let me start by saying You guys got me abit wrong. I didn't write all that based solely on my personal experience with the phone. Trust me,I've done some good research and found out that vast majority of the issues encountered with by the xz2 users revolve around all these problems. I understand my phone could be one of the defective units sold,so you saying that the thousands of users who complain about the same set of problems in different forums all bought the defective units? I dont think that would make any sense.
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4. About 4k recording, last time i tested 4k i was able to hit 67 mins with custom thermal settings and was using DoomKernel on 314 fw. Device was on 67 degrees max. Still nothing happened. All devices that support 4k heats n this feature can be only used for a temporary time, provided Sony gave max time of usage of 4k.
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What if i dont wanna customize the thermal settings or play around with kernels? Does that mean i cant get same results as yours?? Besides,I(and im sure many people) wont buy a phone like this just to start tempering with stuff!!
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5. Call problems? Again, since u might hv had a defective unit, the speaker might be faulty or u might have done something wrong with some mods installation or something.
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I dont think the call problems i faced have anything to do with the mic,as ive stated,i solved the problem by simply flashing a custom rom(eXistenZ) into it. But Hey! Not everyone would want to root their phones or flash a custom rom just to fix the basic function of a phone!!
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6. About the Camera, PLS LEARN TO USE MANUAL SETTINGS. All phones in Auto mode SUCKS BIG TIME. Even the phones with best camera's. Manual Settings gives u the best results.
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You're definitely wrong about this! Not every's phone Auto Mode sucks. Coz iPhone's Auto Mode doesnt suck as much as it does on xz2,(not comparing iOS with Android by any chance)and trust me,it produces some descent shots for the on-the-go photographer like me who wouldn't want/have to temper with manual settings,perhaps i dont know much about it
One thing most of you fail to realize is that an ideal smartphone should aim at satisfying both the average users and the Know-How guys like me and you
And Oh! Does Anybody know how i can reduce the intensity of incoming call vibration on this phone?? Its more like an earthquake
It's a little annoying you created this thread and expect people to agree points substantiated with poor arguments? So what's go great of the S5? Exploding batteries, laggy UI?! M8, the "awesome" camera???
Everyone phone has its flaws, but sadly, the those mentioned for the Z2 are mostly invalid. Overheating won't happen unless you use 4k. Dropped my phone numerous times and not a single scratch on my the glass panel. My unit screen is aligned accurately. I don't know what you're trying to get out of this thread? Or you're a keyboard warrior paid by Samsung?
And how old are you? Your post is riddled with smileys and stuff. If you find this discussion funny, please do not start this thread, you're wasting everyone's time. And your best friend mocked you because he presumed the iPhone takes better photos than the Z2 (not true)?? Such maturity.
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Let me start by saying You guys got me abit wrong. I didn't write all that based solely on my personal experience with the phone. Trust me,I've done some good research and found out that vast majority of the issues encountered with by the xz2 users revolve around all these problems. I understand my phone could be one of the defective units sold,so you saying that the thousands of users who complain about the same set of problems in different forums all bought the defective units? I dont think that would make any sense.
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The thing is Sony started to manufacture phones themselves since Z2 and before that they had a client tied up manufacturing the units. Since they started their own, they had a setback, a lot of defective Z2 units and Sony did agree to replace the defective ones with a proper unit and they did(One of our RC's got his Z2 replaced like 4 times). So when u get a proper unit, u won't be seeing any of these issues. All Z2's having batch nos til 14w21 are defective in one or the other way. Some are major defective and some are minor. Batches after 14w25 are clean as a whistle, aka no defects even if u search with a magnifying glass.
What if i dont wanna customize the thermal settings or play around with kernels? Does that mean i cant get same results as yours?? Besides,I(and im sure many people) wont buy a phone like this just to start tempering with stuff!!
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I am on a non-rooted phone right now. Still 4k ran for half hour without problems. Although u don't seem to accept the fact that 4k is still kinda in the initial phase of the mobile market. Smartphones require more improvements which will come in the near future.
I dont think the call problems i faced have anything to do with the mic,as ive stated,i solved the problem by simply flashing a custom rom(eXistenZ) into it. But Hey! Not everyone would want to root their phones or flash a custom rom just to fix the basic function of a phone!!
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Call problem hasn't been a problem on any Z2 i have seen so far. 8 of my friends have bought a Z2 ever since they saw mine. None of them complained any of the issues u faced. Plus Call clarity is better than other phones that i have compared.
You're definitely wrong about this! Not every's phone Auto Mode sucks. Coz iPhone's Auto Mode doesnt suck as much as it does on xz2,(not comparing iOS with Android by any chance)and trust me,it produces some descent shots for the on-the-go photographer like me who wouldn't want/have to temper with manual settings,perhaps i dont know much about it
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Android doesn't support RAW exif until Android 5.0. With Lollipop, Image processing changes drastically. But for the better of the performance. Although i disagree with u on this. I even linked u to the pictures thread, did u see it? Did u see atleast 10 pages? I was impressed by the Z2's Camera capability even with 4.4.4(KitKat). On any phone, Auto Mode isn't recommended. Manual Settings are a MUST. If u say otherwise, then the whole photography concept is WRONG. (Which isn't). Even average users use Manual Settings pal, no one uses Auto mode anymore unlike very few.
One thing most of you fail to realize is that an ideal smartphone should aim at satisfying both the average users and the Know-How guys like me and you
And Oh! Does Anybody know how i can reduce the intensity of incoming call vibration on this phone?? Its more like an earthquake
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Again, you're able to notice issues nobody else have. Vibration intensity? Its more than normal. Its like 10% of what my Nokia 3310 caused. Now that's what u call an Earthquake, Z2 is fine. If u feel otherwise, you should consider selling it and go for other brands. That's my suggestion. But i'm pretty sure you're gonna come back to Xperia section itself. You should do more research and find facts unlike some sites only provide false stats n reviews.
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It's a little annoying you created this thread and expect people to agree points substantiated with poor arguments? So what's go great of the S5? Exploding batteries, laggy UI?! M8, the "awesome" camera???
Everyone phone has its flaws, but sadly, the those mentioned for the Z2 are mostly invalid. Overheating won't happen unless you use 4k. Dropped my phone numerous times and not a single scratch on my the glass panel. My unit screen is aligned accurately. I don't know what you're trying to get out of this thread? Or you're a keyboard warrior paid by Samsung?
And how old are you? Your post is riddled with smileys and stuff. If you find this discussion funny, please do not start this thread, you're wasting everyone's time. And your best friend mocked you because he presumed the iPhone takes better photos than the Z2 (not true)?? Such maturity.
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Totally agree with that bro @lee480
Kinda useless if you ask me, why such people open new threads like this, they can read the specs and informations on google but for some it is hard to find and it is also useless to compare different devices like Sony v.s. Samsung or any other brand with eachother, every device have his own abilities, so if some dont like the Xperia Range step then over to another one, so they dont have to bother us with they frustrations, simple as that !
Sony is just the best in my eyes and i use it for years and i see and feel the improvements what they bring to us and i dont have any complainings on that.
Sony rocks !!
Sent From Somewhere On Earth With My Z2 ^^
I switch from nexus 5 to z2 hopin it will be on higher ends of things but it turn out to be worse tha N5. The only pro it has over N5 is the screen size and battery life. The camera on z2 is awful. I can take my N5 out and take pics with perfect clarity and brightness in dark restaurant. With my z2, it takes yellowish pictures and dark front camera. I wish I never brought it and now im stuck with it
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I switch from nexus 5 to z2 hopin it will be on higher ends of things but it turn out to be worse tha N5. The only pro it has over N5 is the screen size and battery life. The camera on z2 is awful. I can take my N5 out and take pics with perfect clarity and brightness in dark restaurant. With my z2, it takes yellowish pictures and dark front camera. I wish I never brought it and now im stuck with it
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I admit the z2 camera sucks compared to like the s5 or note 4 or even the g3 in some cases, but against the nexus 5? I am beginning to question your eyesight.
No need to force everyone to agree with your perception. U can sell your device and get a new one, buy the iPhone if u like the features of the Apple. Its so annoying if u keep complaining and forcing people to agree with your logic. Get a life, smartphone is not everything.
+1 @yuskhayru said pretty much what i was going to say
Honnestly Xperias Rival Nokia in terms of camera quality
I have only seen 2 brands truly suprize me with quality and i just mentioned them
Im also dead sick of seeing all this repetitive complaining about silly thing.
If you have a defective unit, Have it replaced.
If you dont like your phone, sell it and buy another.
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I've had the xperia z2 phone for about 3 weeks now,and i must say its a pretty descent phone. But i cant help asking myself whats so special about this phone that i paid so much for?. Its indisputable that the z2 is a highly spec'd phone with the gorgeous screen and all,but when talking smartphone,its not all the internal specs that matters,the build quality does matter too,which IMO the z2 doesnt possess. I mean come to think of it,z2 is one of the most complained about smartphones out there,not to mention...
~The spaces found between the metal frame and the glass panel,in-which my phone also have + the back glass got replaced,making it more susceptible to water damage and what not!
~The issue of self cracking,although i understand its of minority,but com'on! Its worrying
~Overheating issues,i know this have been addressed already in several places,a phone like the z2 should be able to withstand some average period of 4k recording without overheating,not just few minutes.
~The inability for the other party to hear during calls...well,even though i was able to find a temporary solution to it by flashing a custom ROM,but do all the z2 owners with same problem have to flash custom rom as well? Also,not to talk of the absurd location of the mic.
~And Oh! Did i mention the camera? Well it has a good amount of MegaPixel but seriously,the camera software suuuuuuuuu*cks!! Most especially the superior auto mode. I find myself using the ProCapture more often now. And the other day,I and a friend of mine with an iPhone 5s snapped same photo,and he mocked me 'cos his images were better than mine.
Lastly,i know That no Smartphone is perfect,buy Sony,You could do better than this!!
Anybody on my side?
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sorry about your unit you should have it replaced like what others have suggested.
the z2 for me is quite the looker (even compared to z3).
- i don't have the gap issue. my build number is 14w34.
- self cracking? been using it for 3 months now, not a single crack since. (also on tempered glass back to back).
- overheating is normal. we just have to deal with it. especially with 4k and some heavy gfx games.
- mic/call issue? i don't have it
- camera software sucks? if you can flash a custom rom, then surely you might have heard of xposed? not running 20mp superior auto? i usually photograph sceneries and my experience with the z2 has never been more awesome.
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not to mention, manual mode is there plus the many other camera shooting modes like background defocus (which is super awesome) and the likes.
and lastly, waterproof (*resist) nuff said.
the only downer for me is that warranty doesn't cover water damage but hey, that's another issue.
my two cents worth
From june 2014 till yesterday when i got my last replacement its 4 UNITS REPLACED for one year, all these faults happend to me , first was the selfcracking backplate , then on the next unit people were unable to hear me , and it backplate opened by itself and wasnt waterproof anymore, so 2days ago got my 4th replacement...its good from one side that you buy phone and after almost year you got still new device,buuuut guys thata not acceptable after all these faults with the 'Z" anf Sony just didnt learn their lessons, same faults on the flagships each new year, dont say to me all these bull****s thats its normal,because its not normal to replace 4 units for 1 year...
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Soooo can you report a thread on xda for being useless and a waste of the interwebs?
If you want to complain I suggest you should head over to the sony support forum to vent your frustration. This may have the unintended benefit of someone seeing the rant that could help.
I have to agree that sony z series main weakness is camera software. But did you try used other camera app? It might help you anyway, it is better to have a software deficiency rather than lack of hardware feature. From z to z2 im happy it had improved alot problem only is other oem had improved alot also. Anyway hope sony outshines this. Cause there are no drastically added features in smartphone.
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Soooo can you report a thread on xda for being useless and a waste of the interwebs?
If you want to complain I suggest you should head over to the sony support forum to vent your frustration. This may have the unintended benefit of someone seeing the rant that could help.
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Aparently reporting does nothing.
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Aparently reporting does nothing.
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Yes it do ^^
A Moderator take a look into it and close it but not sure but i think yes if they read the replies here.
Sent From Somewhere On Earth With My Z2 ^^
Ok guys!
Im sorry if I've caused anybody a headache by creating this thread,i was just trying to rule out some things about my new phone so i thought i could see the opinions of you guys that are using the same phone.
We could be a little bit diplomatic when addressing issues like this,No big deal. It was just a thread!!
Anyways,like i said,Im sorry.
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No need to force everyone to agree with your perception. U can sell your device and get a new one, buy the iPhone if u like the features of the Apple. Its so annoying if u keep complaining and forcing people to agree with your logic. Get a life, smartphone is not everything.
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Im not forcing anybody to agree with my perception. I obviously came from an iPhone so i dont need another.
You're right,smartphone is not everything. Sorry about the annoyance:angel:
Hello all,
I have had the Xperia Z2 since it was released here in the Netherlanns end of may 2014. During that time, I had to switch my xperia z3 five times because of bad call quality.
The one I have now is still not good, almost everyone says that I sound bad or that the connectoin is really bad. I can hear the other party fine and loud enough. I've searched xda-dev for the soundmod, but I think that only fixes using the two speakers for notifications? Also, when in a loud room it is really hard for the other party to here me.
I'm tempted to exchange this one again and finnaly hope for a good one. I really want to like this phone, but it's getting harder and harder. I know that there is a call qaulity mod that fixes it for everyone, but I have not been able to find it. I did find this ROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z2/development/rom-envi-rom-stock-beta-t2811710 - But I dont know if it is included in there.
Also, when I take a picture in low-light, the camera has a tendacy to go all grainy on me and it seems to be really struggling to gte a sharp picture. Anyone else have this? I really expected more of this camera. It does take great pictures in good light though.
Many thanks!
The camera i know about
Low light is pretty much the same in most phones, xperias dont use any grain removing post processsing unlike other brands
For phone quality i dont know much but try changing some settings under >settings>phone
Disable noise reduction
Ive heard somtimes these settings fix problems like these
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The camera i know about
Low light is pretty much the same in most phones, xperias dont use any grain removing post processsing unlike other brands
For phone quality i dont know much but try changing some settings under >settings>phone
Disable noise reduction
Ive heard somtimes these settings fix problems like these
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I did change the settings to see if it improved somewhat, it did not however. Low light can be good if you really know your way around manual mode though. Surperior auto can be either really awesome, or really bad. I guess it is replacing another one again... sigh.
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I did change the settings to see if it improved somewhat, it did not however. Low light can be good if you really know your way around manual mode though. Surperior auto can be either really awesome, or really bad. I guess it is replacing another one again... sigh.
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Im on my 4th Z2
Honnestly after all them defective replacements this one is working perfectly fine and im happy
If any brand ill stick to sony, My Xperia S was a tanky phone and somehow this Z2 (although i still distrust modern tech when it comes to toughness)
The only problem i currently have is when using google hangouts, no OTHER app does this at all but google hangouts somehow causes overheating
Not even gaming nor 4K recording does this :/
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Im on my 4th Z2
Honnestly after all them defective replacements this one is working perfectly fine and im happy
If any brand ill stick to sony, My Xperia S was a tanky phone and somehow this Z2 (although i still distrust modern tech when it comes to toughness)
The only problem i currently have is when using google hangouts, no OTHER app does this at all but google hangouts somehow causes overheating
Not even gaming nor 4K recording does this :/
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Thanks for the answer, good to know I still have hope . Was thinking of switching to the One plus one, but i'll switch to a another one again. I must be very unlucky
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Thanks for the answer, good to know I still have hope . Was thinking of switching to the One plus one, but i'll switch to a another one again. I must be very unlucky
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True and not true
When this phone came out it was the very first to be manufactured by sony and not someome else
And to add to that about 9 batches werent tested hence the earlier models of this phone are faulty
Its likely you are going to come across this
If you have the money it may be worth an upgrade to Z2
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True and not true
When this phone came out it was the very first to be manufactured by sony and not someome else
And to add to that about 9 batches werent tested hence the earlier models of this phone are faulty
Its likely you are going to come across this
If you have the money it may be worth an upgrade to Z2
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I currently own a Z2, not a Z or z1 Hopeing I get a Z2 that was manufacter later then April-May 2014.
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I currently own a Z2, not a Z or z1 Hopeing I get a Z2 that was manufacter later then April-May 2014.
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I didnt notice that typo
I ment Z3
Manufacturing issues are less with Z3 vs Z2
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I didnt notice that typo
I ment Z3
Manufacturing issues are less with Z3 vs Z2
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Yeah thought so. Maybe I can purchase one second hand, a new one is getting too expensive. The Xperia z3 also has more microphones then the z2, so that would help.
HI guys, so im thinking to buy Oneplus X, but i dont know if im geting the right version for europe, i cant buy from offical oneplus webiste , because they dont ship to my country, but i will buy from other websites like Aliexpress, somewhere near that price, i read that they say soemthing about google play sservices ! Are google play services installed on internactional veersion, or that version which am getting is Asian Version ?
Indian and international version has Google services China one does not have Google services
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Indian and international version has Google services China one does not have Google services
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any other diference or just that ?
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any other diference or just that ?
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Also, I think the Chinese OPX comes with HydrogenOS instead of OxygenOS.
Just my 2 cents, I'm stationed in Italy and I get H+, LTE, and H
So yes, it works great in Europe on vodafone
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Just my 2 cents, I'm stationed in Italy and I get H+, LTE, and H
So yes, it works great in Europe on vodafone
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well thanks, so what do you think about camiera , is it good ? im reading online people say that its worst , especialy in low light ! what do you think ?
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well thanks, so what do you think about camiera , is it good ? im reading online people say that its worst , especialy in low light ! what do you think ?
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To say I'm beyond happy with this device would be an understatement. I'm seriously considering selling my Nexus 6P. They're very comparable, and I know how crazy that sounds. They have a ton of similarities, fast camera, good battery life, stock experience.
The battery life on the 6p wins JUST due to standby time. If I use the OPX all day I'll get 4-5 SOT, where the 6P gets 3-4 SOT. But that standby time of the 6p is what makes it a winner.
When OPX gets 6.0, that doze feature will really kick it over the edge.
The only thing that holds me wanting the 6p still is the fingerprint reader and the front facing speakers... before the 6p I had the OP2, that device was horrible (TO ME AT LEAST) Fingerprint reader was crap, and the shape of the device was not comfortable to hold for a while
If you're considering getting the OPX, get it. It's a fantastic device that doesn't feel cheap in the slightest bit. It performs better than the Moto X Pure Edition (2015)
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well thanks, so what do you think about camiera , is it good ? im reading online people say that its worst , especialy in low light ! what do you think ?
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One major negative however is how slippery the OPX is, as I sat there typing that is slid off the couch (which I though was level)
It's like ice slippery. GRIPPY to hold though... while holding you'll never worry about it slipping out of your hands, the glass is way grippier than the iPhone 4/4s
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To say I'm beyond happy with this device would be an understatement. I'm seriously considering selling my Nexus 6P. They're very comparable, and I know how crazy that sounds. They have a ton of similarities, fast camera, good battery life, stock experience.
The battery life on the 6p wins JUST due to standby time. If I use the OPX all day I'll get 4-5 SOT, where the 6P gets 3-4 SOT. But that standby time of the 6p is what makes it a winner.
When OPX gets 6.0, that doze feature will really kick it over the edge.
The only thing that holds me wanting the 6p still is the fingerprint reader and the front facing speakers... before the 6p I had the OP2, that device was horrible (TO ME AT LEAST) Fingerprint reader was crap, and the shape of the device was not comfortable to hold for a while
If you're considering getting the OPX, get it. It's a fantastic device that doesn't feel cheap in the slightest bit. It performs better than the Moto X Pure Edition (2015)
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One major negative however is how slippery the OPX is, as I sat there typing that is slid off the couch (which I though was level)
It's like ice slippery. GRIPPY to hold though... while holding you'll never worry about it slipping out of your hands, the glass is way grippier than the iPhone 4/4s
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well it seems great from you review, even people say camera is bad on low light, i still dont know, im considering to buy htc one m8 (refurbished ) or this, the only this which is keeping me away from buying OPX is about that camera !! However i cant buy it from OnePLus web, because they dont ship to Albania (where i live ), i need try AliExpress, or something else ....
The camera on the m8 is the worst camera out there. I haven't tried the oneplusx low light.. I'll try it out tonight and post some samples
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The camera on the m8 is the worst camera out there. I haven't tried the oneplusx low light.. I'll try it out tonight and post some samples
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well i use much front camera, and m8 seems to have a good one, idk about oneplus x , but compared to nexus 5x (from review from android authority ) nexus x was way more better
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The camera on the m8 is the worst camera out there. I haven't tried the oneplusx low light.. I'll try it out tonight and post some samples
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^^This is TOTALLY UNTRUE. The M8 has an excellent camera. The ONLY downside is the pics are only 4MP. So Zoom/Crop totally destroys the image. Low light pics are pretty great too. Better than this camera for sure.
Also, just the M8. The M8 Eye camera sucks.
The M8 also is optimized better than this phone. It just flies.
That being said, I would never buy a used or refurbished phone.
The M8 also has a better front camera. Better lighting and so on. Only 5MP though.
Can someone tell me whats the diference betwen a china version vs internacional version ? since opeplus does not ship to my country, i need to buy it from AliExpress and they wil sell me a china version ?
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^^This is TOTALLY UNTRUE. The M8 has an excellent camera. The ONLY downside is the pics are only 4MP. So Zoom/Crop totally destroys the image. Low light pics are pretty great too. Better than this camera for sure.
Also, just the M8. The M8 Eye camera sucks.
The M8 also is optimized better than this phone. It just flies.
That being said, I would never buy a used or refurbished phone.
The M8 also has a better front camera. Better lighting and so on. Only 5MP though.
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http://www.dxomark.com/Mobiles/HTC-One-M8-4.1Mp-sensor-ranks-outside-the-DxOMark-top-10
Dxomark begs to differ... And that's when the phone was NEW.
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Can someone tell me whats the diference betwen a china version vs internacional version ? since opeplus does not ship to my country, i need to buy it from AliExpress and they wil sell me a china version ?
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Id check on the onplus forums in their website.. I'm sure people have asked the identical questions with shipping solutions
Worst case I can think of is you'll find it has hydrogen os which you can just easily just root and toss oxygen os on
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http://www.dxomark.com/Mobiles/HTC-One-M8-4.1Mp-sensor-ranks-outside-the-DxOMark-top-10
Dxomark begs to differ... And that's when the phone was NEW.
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Id check on the onplus forums in their website.. I'm sure people have asked the identical questions with shipping solutions
Worst case I can think of is you'll find it has hydrogen os which you can just easily just root and toss oxygen os on
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Read the article yourself. The One M8s weaknesses are noise under low light, where and stabilisation of videos, not colors and detail, both of which come out quite well, even if you lose some accuracy. You have to remember this is a 4MP sensor. It may not compete with the Z2, but its damn good for a 4 MP sensor. Sure, 4MP is not very sharp, but plenty good for social media, as long as you don't crop. The X on the other hand will do nothing in low light. Forget noise, you'll get nothing. Colors on the X are pleasing, though less accurate than the M8. The M8 overall takes better pictures, as long as you don't mind the loss of detail in the smaller sensor.
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you can contact the seller and ask them help you install the OS Which you want then will be ok
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Get the 1+X 1003-version, it works flawlessly in Europe.
About the camera, i can understand why YoungSkeezy hasn't posted any low light pictures yet because they don't really turn out that good tbh. If you want to get a good camera, buy a Galaxy S6... on the other hand, that's almost the only thing that stands out with the S6
I can just repeat what all the serious reviewers tell you, the 1+X is a great phone for its price. There are better phones out there but not by far.
If you ask me, for the reasonable price the pros are:
- Good looks, slim and build quality
- Decent APU for the phone size, two years old but copes with most tasks
- 3Gig RAM helps quite a lot
- Excellent screen
- Dual SIM or SD-slot
- Close to stock android experiance out of the box
- 3-way notification slider
...and the cons are:
- No fingerprint reader
- No NFC
- Mediocre camera
- Only about 12 or the 16GB of storage is available if you use 2 SIMs