When I connect my LG L90 D410 phone with Android 5.0.1 to charging with the travel power adapter (output: 5.0V) that came with the phone, it charges fine most of the time, sometimes it heats up the phone. Also when I connect the phone to my car charger, the phone heats up quickly every time.
However, the heating does not happen when it is connected to my laptop high or low powered USB 2.0 ports.
So, I want to check the power output of the chargers that I use with my phone.
Please suggest if there is any app that can measure the power input the phone is getting from the charger that is connected to it.
Try out Ampere in the play store.
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I purchased a new vent holder with a car charger, and it charges the phone up OK when it is off, but if it is on it says charging but does not actually charge. This is especially annoying with Satnav and after an hour or two the phone dies and I don't know where I am going!
Anyone know what causes this? I guess it can't provide enough power for the device, especially when using the internal GPS, but I think it doesn't even keep up with the device is just turned on.
I am getting another charger just in case, but never had the problem on my old Touch....
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try -> start/settings/system tab/power/battery tab - uncheck the box "when the device is turned on...."
It isn't ticked...
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try ticking it..
That will have the opposite effect, it charges fine when plugged into the wall, the problem is something to do with the car.
Does anyone use satnav on a touch HD and have it charge at the same time?
Well there could be one or two issues.
On the USB port there are four connections, a positive and a negative and two data pins. When you plug your Touch HD into a PC power is supplied down the power pins and after negotiating with the USB controller chip over the two data pins the phone will pull up-to 500mA from the power supply to run and charge the phone. This is so the USB port on the PC is not damaged by the phone overloading the power supply to the port.
Without the negotiation with the USB controller chip the device will only charge at 100mA.
But 500mA is not enough to charge the phone with everything running, you will need at least 1000mA to do that (1 Ampere). So that is what your wall charger pushes out. But how does the phone know it can charge at a higher rate? Well inside the charger the data pins on the USB connector are wired in a way that the phone 'sees' that a higher current is available, and pulls a higher charging current.
So what you need is a minimum current 1 Amp car charger. If you already have a 1 Amp then the chances are that is does not have the data pins connected properly and the phone will not draw the higher current, meaning it will only charge at 100mA.
Thanks, I am going to try another one and see if that helps, perhaps it is just faulty, otherwise I will check if it is 1Amp.
Cheers.
I contacted the seller and they sent me a new one, which works. So it turns it my charger was just faulty.
What's the rating of the new one? and where did you get it from. I bought a 2amp (supposedly) but it doesn't give me more than 500mA.
I've had this problem and it sucks! As I'm always out on the road. But I have found a few solutions. I purchased a mini usb charger from asda for £6. After adjusting the backlight to medium this charger seems to keep the power level the same as it was before you plugged it in, so It doesn't let the battery go flat. I've now learnt to keep a spare charged battery in the car just in case it fails.
Is there a program/driver that will allow the leo to pull more than 500mA when connected via usb? My TP2 (CDMA) has this installed and its bad ass. I can charge faster off things like a cable box (or my computer) than the wall. It pulls ~928mA.
Right now I have a Y adapter.. I plug the power only usb into the computer and the data into an external source (like a duracell powersource mobile). tBattery reads "AC" for charger input. Then, I unplug from the powersource and plug the data part of the usb Y into the computer, hopefully forcing it to switch to usb mode while retaining high current draw. No dice, its still on AC.. and the data cable is not communicating with the computer/phone. If i were to unplug the power only cable, it would probably switch right over to usb mode and WMDC would pop up and all that. But.. I would be limited to 500mA, which is.. really weak since the phone can only use about 150 of that for charging!
Charge with your phone off may help?
That is not possible, because PC can't give more than 500mA on one USB port.
Check in Windows device manager (PC) and find Generic USB Hub. Then look on "Power" tab.
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You can't. You could burn USB port in your computer.
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This is a screenshot taken from my touch pro 2.. Plugged into the usb port of my laptop. This is possible. It also is possible with my cable box. It requires a driver/app from nuerom..
http://www.nuerom.com/BlogEngine/po...g-nueBattery2-For-TP2-CDMA-v12-Build-122.aspx
btw.. ports are either in high power or low power.. 500mA should really say 500mA+... Some ports are NOT capable of doing this.. I'd imagine I could trigger the same by connecting devices to all three of my usb ports on my laptop.
many gigabyte mainboards have the function to deliver 3x more power through usb ports. ive tested myself and can only confirm it is charging within 1.5~ 2 hours completely
Yeah - maybe, but if... higher charging amperage causing battery/phone overheating and dramaticly shorting battery life. I know, that dedicated HTC HD2 charger having 5V and 1A (1000 mA), but this is TRAVEL charger and should be used only in this situation by reasons previously wroted by me. I charge my LEO only with PC.
i think it depends on the charger itself. i bought a docking station and while reading the manual i came across a switch that changes the mode between "charge" and "sync"
this lets your device acknowledge that the charger is capable of providing more mA than a normal USB port so that it can draw more power.
The ac charger (or the battery driver itself) is smart enough to trickle down the charge rate as the battery reaches maximum capacity. We have an aluminum battery cover that seems to have a heat pad to transfer that heat from the battery. The battery driver probably has provisions to stop charging if batt temp reaches a certain #.
500mA charge is not enough. The phone itself is able to draw more current than a 500mA line could provide.
I just plugged a y adapter into my laptop. Plugging only the power portion in. tBattery says USB for charger input.. Taking the data/power 'part' of the Y adapter cable and plugging it into a usb power source (with no data pins, like a duracell powersource mobile) puts the phone into ac charger input. I disconnect the duracell charger and leave only the phone plugged into my y adapter to my computer... still says AC charging.
I'm now able to charge the phone using 1 computer usb port. World doesn't end. Phone doesn't explode.
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I've bought 3 days ago a Motorola enginnering device, which permitted to hack hack hack and hack again, bit my problem is simple and particular.
I'm using latest Aura rom united with the powerfull of Eternity kernel.
In this moment it's running Music player at max volume with small headphones.
The charge is 16% so I connet my atrix to my pc's usb port. Why after 20 minutes of music the charge is the same or only 1% more ?? so about 17% or 15%.
is possible that phone sucks the same ma/h of the power supply of usb port??? I don't think so.
help please
The ma/h of the USB port is lower compared that to the wall charger. So if you connect it to a wall charger it may charge faster. And yes the phone will use the same ma/h of the usb power when running multiple apps, like you are doing.
Alaq is right.
A PC USB port is UP TO 500mA/h, our standard wall plug are around 1000mA/h.
On you PC, the phone consumption is too high to recharge AND run.
You can try to UC/UV you phone if you are just playing music connected to you PC, it should be enough to recharge the phone... but very slowly.
At my side, I have connect a 5V wire of the power supply directly to one of my front USB port... so now no problems !
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Alaq is right.
A PC USB port is UP TO 500mA/h, our standard wall plug are around 1000mA/h.
On you PC, the phone consumption is too high to recharge AND run.
You can try to UC/UV you phone if you are just playing music connected to you PC, it should be enough to recharge the phone... but very slowly.
At my side, I have connect a 5V wire of the power supply directly to one of my front USB port... so now no problems !
http://pinouts.ru/Slots/USB_pinout.shtml
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That's freaking cool! Too bad you can't do that on a laptop...
Are all USB car chargers like this? Can I prevent this by getting a higher quality charger? When I'm not using maps or navigation (or turn off the screen for a while), then it'll slowly charge back up.
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Are all USB car chargers like this? Can I prevent this by getting a higher quality charger? When I'm not using maps or navigation (or turn off the screen for a while), then it'll slowly charge back up.
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GPS is usually a big energy hog. How many amps is your car charger?
You should be able to get away with a higher amperage charger, but the trade off may be reduced battery life.
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Are all USB car chargers like this? Can I prevent this by getting a higher quality charger? When I'm not using maps or navigation (or turn off the screen for a while), then it'll slowly charge back up.
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How fast does it discharge? I just went on an out of state trip last week and had gps on with the charger plugged in for several hours at a time. I didn't pay attention to the actual charge numbers, but it either discharges very gradually or charges very gradually. I could probably run it all day with the charger and gps without a problem. I don't recall the amp output of my car charger, but it is one of the cheap foreign models.
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Are all USB car chargers like this? Can I prevent this by getting a higher quality charger? When I'm not using maps or navigation (or turn off the screen for a while), then it'll slowly charge back up.
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Reflash your ROM, dude. I had that problem on one of my initial GB ROM's where I had bad drain using GPS while charging in my car. I redownloaded and wiped everything and reflashed the ROM and everything was good.
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If you are running a custom ROM, you can use SetCPU (or any other CPU clock control app that allows profiles) to set max of 800MHz when plugged in. This should at least get you to even charge/discharge levels when plugged in and running GPS while driving. Probably will depend on your screen brightness.
I don't run GPS long term very often right now, but I was for a while and FWIW, I was able to stream pandora, run google maps with screen on, not have any lag, and get a slow charge from my car charger by limiting clock speed to 800MHz.
Your other option (and what I usually do) is turn off the screen during longer sections of GPS nav with no turns (like sections of highway). You'll still get audible notifications for the next turn/maneuver/interchange/whatever, and you can turn the display on then if you need visual along with audio nav. The phone shouldn't have any problem charging and running GPS with the screen off...
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Are all USB car chargers like this? Can I prevent this by getting a higher quality charger? When I'm not using maps or navigation (or turn off the screen for a while), then it'll slowly charge back up.
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Not all USB car chargers are alike. You need two things:
1. The car charger outputs higher current than 500ma. You need at least 700ma.
2. The charger is wired correctly to be recognized by phone as AC charger instead of PC USB port so that the phone will actually draw more than 500ma for charging. You can go to phone's status page to read what charge mode it is using.
Most iDevice chargers will not meet #2.
I have a stock Samsung car charger and it charges my phone while using Google Nav.
Thanks for the tips guys.
My phone discharges at around 1% every 20 minutes or so. I've been doing things like turning the screen off during periods of downtime to help with this (actually charges when I do this).
I'm using cheapy car adapter actually that has two usb ports and 2 cigarette ports in it and I use that with a samsung branded usb cable.
Hm yeah I'll try and see if limiting the CPU will help and if it does perhaps I'll just do that from now on.
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2. The charger is wired correctly to be recognized by phone as AC charger instead of PC USB port so that the phone will actually draw more than 500ma for charging. You can go to phone's status page to read what charge mode it is using.
Most iDevice chargers will not meet #2.
I have a stock Samsung car charger and it charges my phone while using Google Nav.
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Do you know of any other options that are wired correctly to draw more than 500ma? I think I did hear from somewhere that charging via usb is considerably slower than when using the wall charger. Do you know of any other options that would fulfill this requirement besides getting the stock Samsung car charger? Also I assume just finding a higher amp charger wouldn't work if the phone detects it as a usb charger instead of an AC charger?
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Do you know of any other options that are wired correctly to draw more than 500ma? I think I did hear from somewhere that charging via usb is considerably slower than when using the wall charger. Do you know of any other options that would fulfill this requirement besides getting the stock Samsung car charger? Also I assume just finding a higher amp charger wouldn't work if the phone detects it as a usb charger instead of an AC charger?
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The correctly wired charger will typically short the USB data PINs. iPhone charges and most generic car chargers with UBS ports don't do that. Most HTC chargers and Motorola chargers will work on Samsung phones. You need take a look at your car charger to see how much amps it can supply (listed on the spec label). The PC usb can only output 500ma max per spec. It is not enough to charge the phone while keep the screen on, GPS running and 3G connection active. Your Samsung OEM wall charger is rated 700ma. So, you need a car charger that outputs at least 700ma.
You then need to verify from the phone that the particular charger is recorgnized by the phone as AC charger. Without that, the phone will only draw 500ma max.
So when I play a game on my hox+ connected to the official charger I get a warning that tells me I'm consuming more power than it's charging.
Is there a way round this, I know it's to do with amps do I just need to get a power adaptor that can change voltage down a usb cable...
What's the solution guys?
Just don't charge your phone while playing games (especially heavy 3d games), it makes your phone heating up even more. And definitely use power saving mode or a lower cpu frequency cap (depending on what rom you use) while gaming.
I've got this warning when I used the official charger connected with two usb cables and the micro usb on the end of it (so I had 3 meters of cable ). But unfortunately, longer cable = slower charging.
Are you sure you use the official charger and the official micro usb cable? I read that there are plenty Chinese micro usb cables in stores which can't be used to charge devices.
So there's no solution then! I don't care about heating up and I've got tegra overclock, I just want a more powerful charger I think.