cm12.1 SNAPSHOT first impressions - Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi everyone,
New in town and wanted to ask some questions .
I'm thinking of updating my i9100 with the latest snapshot (stable as it goes) of cm 12.1 from the cyanogenmod guys.
1. Is there anyone that can guide me through any known issues/bugs related to this version of cm and this specific device?
2. Secondly, i looked through the internet and most people say that the only negative about this rom is the camera app (google camera i presume...). They say that the quality of the pictures is far less than the samsung stock camera. Is this true? And if yes, is there not a possibility to install another camera app (point me to one if you please) in the cm rom instead of using the cm google camera? Or maybe you could point me to the exact stock samsung camera app of 4.1.2 that i currently own and install it after the update...?
3. Also are there any problems regarding enabling 3g (apn settings)?
4. Last but not least, if for some reason i'm to install the pico gapps (hence no youtube), can i install youtube separately after the ROM flushing?
Thanks in advance. Looking forward for your answers.

Hi @thrillos, welcome to XDA,
I will just comment generally on lollipop. CM snapshot is considered one of the most stable LP roms
1. The most well known bug is it freezes every now and then requiring a reboot. This happens 1 or 2 times a day for some people and virtually never for others(I hardly ever experience freezes). It's probably related to slightly different hardware capabilities
2. The camera quality is not as good as stock and never will be. On any custom(non-touchwiz) rom. This is because Samsung hasn't(and won't) released there hardware codes. And no, you can't use the stock app, because it relies on other Samsung proprietry files(also closed-source) to work
3. No APN problems
4. Pico gapps are necessary if you have stock system partition.(or another gapps package that is bare minimum play store/services)
When you install other apps from example play store they are installed in /data, so as long as you have space there, you can install whatever extra apps you want
For more specific info, keep up to date with what users are reporting in the thread HERE

Thank you very very much for your detailed answer on this matter. If i currently (4.1.2) install google camera will i be able to see its "cm" quality in order to make my comparisons or will it be better than the one on cm just because i already own stock drivers?
Thanks in advance.

thrillos said:
Thank you very very much for your detailed answer on this matter. If i currently (4.1.2) install google camera will i be able to see its "cm" quality in order to make my comparisons or will it be better than the one on cm just because i already own stock drivers?
Thanks in advance.
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I honestly don't know, but I think the google camera would use the drivers that are in the firmware and you wouldn't necessarily see the quality you would have in aosp. I guess you could try it and see....
If the camera is super important, quality-wise, then I would recommend staying on stock. If it isn't, then there are plenty of reasons to use custom roms. You could always use Neatrom 4.1.2 as an alternative. It is touchwiz(stock) based and one of the best roms ever made on the S2; I can't think of any reason to stay on stock vs neatrom.

noppy22 said:
I honestly don't know, but I think the google camera would use the drivers that are in the firmware and you wouldn't necessarily see the quality you would have in aosp. I guess you could try it and see....
If the camera is super important, quality-wise, then I would recommend staying on stock. If it isn't, then there are plenty of reasons to use custom roms. You could always use Neatrom 4.1.2 as an alternative. It is touchwiz(stock) based and one of the best roms ever made on the S2; I can't think of any reason to stay on stock vs neatrom.
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Many many thanks on your quick answers. You've been very helpful on this matter.

thrillos said:
Many many thanks on your quick answers. You've been very helpful on this matter.
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Of course, i already installed google camera on my stock 4.1.2 and it doesn't have a single difference from the stock camera. I wish that someone had done this test on behalf of us, and maybe provided us with some links or samples of the difference between google camera on cm (and not stock which i've already checked) and stock camera on Samsung...

Sincerely if you aren't a photo maniac the Google camera is enough...in my opinion is not so bad...try it

Maybe i will @bixi...thanx alot for your answer. If i try i will sure come back here and let you know....

One last question...is it about image quality or just lack of features when we compare rhe camera apps...????

thrillos said:
One last question...is it about image quality or just lack of features when we compare rhe camera apps...????
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Both mate. But most people only need the bare essentials of their camera, so quality can be a talking point. Personally, I don't care too much on features, since we are only limited to whatever features are available on the s2. Although quality is hard to quantify between stock and aosp, it is generally thought that stock does a better job at focus and post processing (etc???)

@gsstudios
I havent noticed a any quality drop comparing to stock rom. The big differance is panorama mode quality though. On stock , it is blurry and on AOSP it is sharp as normal photo.

I have noticed a drop in quality long time back when I was on CM11 4.4.4 . The drop frames in video capturing. The lack of sharpness in some shots. But come on. The S2 is old and has a 8MP sensor. It's not worth thinking about in this day and age as long as it works decent. Now if you had a Galaxy S6 and something reduced it's amazing quality down a notch, then you got something to worry about.
I am currently on CM12.1 Snapshot. My question is slightly different. If I wish to go back to stock, all I need to do is use Odin and flash the stock rom for my phone, right?

Im on CM11 Latest nightly. Should i upgrade to cm 12.1 snapshot? i'm also having some bugs on cm11 where rarely i lost all stored contacts. I have contacts only stored localy.
Will 4.1.2 Custom rom's run faster than cm11? (at least wouldn't have any bugs, i guess)
I'm running CM11 with TWRP recovery.
Its only flash neatrom/omega from recovery? or i have to use odin?
Also i have 1gb /system and 4GB /data? is that compatible with neatrom 4.1.2?

g3lux said:
Im on CM11 Latest nightly. Should i upgrade to cm 12.1 snapshot? i'm also having some bugs on cm11 where rarely i lost all stored contacts. I have contacts only stored localy.
Will 4.1.2 Custom rom's run faster than cm11? (at least wouldn't have any bugs, i guess)
I'm running CM11 with TWRP recovery.
Its only flash neatrom/omega from recovery? or i have to use odin?
Also i have 1gb /system and 4GB /data? is that compatible with neatrom 4.1.2?
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Stock 4.1.2 will definitely have less bugs, but you will also lose a lot of security fixes from newer android versions. I don't know if you will find it fast, since AOSP is bloatfree, whereas stock 4.1.2 will have touchwiz framework bloatware.
Neatrom and Omega ROM needs to be flashed through recovery, not ODIN. 1gb system is compatible with Neatrom 4.1.2, but I always use stock partitions just in-case.
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lurker316 said:
I have noticed a drop in quality long time back when I was on CM11 4.4.4 . The drop frames in video capturing. The lack of sharpness in some shots. But come on. The S2 is old and has a 8MP sensor. It's not worth thinking about in this day and age as long as it works decent. Now if you had a Galaxy S6 and something reduced it's amazing quality down a notch, then you got something to worry about.
I am currently on CM12.1 Snapshot. My question is slightly different. If I wish to go back to stock, all I need to do is use Odin and flash the stock rom for my phone, right?
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Yep, all you need to do is use ODIN to revert back to stock. The easier and preferred option by some users is to use a custom stock 4.1.2 based rom such as Neatrom and Omega rom.

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[Q] Should I flash a ROM?

what are the advantages of flashing ROMS? I've heard that Cyanogen mod 7 is very buggy, so I'll be leaning more towards Lighting ROM or Darky ROM if I do actually end up flashing one. I'm currently running Stock 2.3.5 if that makes any difference.
Thanks!
okmijnlp said:
what are the advantages of flashing ROMS? I've heard that Cyanogen mod 7 is very buggy, so I'll be leaning more towards Lighting ROM or Darky ROM if I do actually end up flashing one. I'm currently running Stock 2.3.5 if that makes any difference.
Thanks!
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Most custom ROMS, for example villainROM, are based on samsung firmware , so they bring a close to stock experience, with touchwiz interface, samsung camera, etc... For me the biggest benefit of these ROMs is that they most of the times get rid of samsung and carriers bloatware and go with the latest samsung firmware (that usually takes a lot time to get via official updates through kies). The latest firmware usually implies a lot f improvement in performance and battery life (yes, it is significant).
In the other hand you have AOSP ROMS (android open source project). This is the case of CM7 (cyangenMOD) and MIUI, and others like oxygen, insanity ii, etc... Here, the devs get rid of samsung firmware, and modify the open source gingerbread to run on a specific device (like samsung galaxy s2 in this case). This is the reason it may be buggy at first, because not everything is running as on samsung firmware.
ANyway, the latest CM7 nightly is working great for performance and battery life, much faster than samsung ROMs also. SOme problems anyway, like the camera which is worse than the samsung one, FM radio not working. There are a lot of things that are way better in CM7 and a lot of things that are worse. But with the latest nightlies the bugs are minor and you can use your device for daily use withouth problems.
I personally was using CM7 for some time and yesterday I switched to checkROM revolution (xda thread) which is samsung firmware XXKI4. I', constantly changing since I miss the camera app and polaris office alot (polaris office as a samsung app can't run on CM7).
Cyanogenmod is not buggy!
Just use checkROM like the rest of us...
I can suggest you to read here. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1288850. Great team working on that rom.
okmijnlp said:
what are the advantages of flashing ROMS? I've heard that Cyanogen mod 7 is very buggy, so I'll be leaning more towards Lighting ROM or Darky ROM if I do actually end up flashing one. I'm currently running Stock 2.3.5 if that makes any difference.
Thanks!
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Flashing a custom ROM makes sense, if you want to optimize the performance of your phone => flash a custom ROM specialized for better performance.
And if you want more battery life, flash a custom ROM specialized for a longer battery life.
If you feel fine with the official firmware, stick to a stock ROM.
That's what I am doing in the moment.
For me, the latest stock ROM is a good compromise / balance between performance and battery life.
But it's up to you ... feel free to try other ROMs.
if you have to ask the question then no, you probably shouldnt
skimminstones said:
if you have to ask the question then no, you probably shouldnt
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I don't agree with you man.
tomascunill said:
I don't agree with you man.
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well, thanks for letting me know

[Q] [SGP 5.0 US version] Upgrading to ICS or even better JB

Greetings,
So, I recently acquired a SGP 5.0 running Gingerbread. I had forgotten how klunky gingerbread is.
Anyway, I want to upgrade it to a new version of Android but I am not sure how to go about it. I have read about PAC-rom and I even ended up on the 4.3 CyanogenMod 10.2 Developers page. What Rom would you suggest and how do I go about it. I am very much green at this and the forum search seems to be down or else I'd scour the forums more before asking this question.
Thanks in advance,
TF
Another question
Should the need arise, how does one restore a device back to FacSpec? or is this a one way street? It doesn't really matter much, my player is well out of warranty so I've really got nothing to lose other then a working player.
Thanks,
TF
also
By installing a custom Rom, do you lose access to the Google Play store?
Thanks,
TF
1. It's your choice, it depends on your needs and the features you want.
2. You can still come back to stock if for some reasons you don't like custom roms
3. To have access to play store, you need to flash a special zip containing all the proprietary google apps. (gapps)
Cyanogenmod tends to be THE most popular rom because of it's been proven over the years. However people with the 5.0 tends to go with PAC because it implement basically 3 roms into one (Cyanogenmod, Aokp, Paranoidandroid).
My 2 cents
You lose the camera function on our device going from GB to ICS or JB. You can still get a camera preview snapshot using the fastburst app on JB. Having tried most of the ROMS available, my preference, by far, is SlimBean. If you plan on trying out several, I suggest you include SlimBean as an option.
beeewell said:
You lose the camera function on our device going from GB to ICS or JB. You can still get a camera preview snapshot using the fastburst app on JB. Having tried most of the ROMS available, my preference, by far, is SlimBean. If you plan on trying out several, I suggest you include SlimBean as an option.
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The loss of the camera is no great loss to me. The one one my Droid4 is far better, this is simple just a replacement for my iPod.
Thanks!
zaclimon said:
1. It's your choice, it depends on your needs and the features you want.
2. You can still come back to stock if for some reasons you don't like custom roms
3. To have access to play store, you need to flash a special zip containing all the proprietary google apps. (gapps)
Cyanogenmod tends to be THE most popular rom because of it's been proven over the years. However people with the 5.0 tends to go with PAC because it implement basically 3 roms into one (Cyanogenmod, Aokp, Paranoidandroid).
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Thanks!
Greetings,
So I used the superoneclick root hack on my device yesterday and all seemed to be well. Until today, I noticed that the device is now bleeding power. Anyone have any thoughts?
Thanks,
TF

[Q] Most stable stock ROM 4.4.2?

Hi guys!
What is the most stable Stock ROM 4.4.2 for the S3 i9300?
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Try them and see which one works best for you.
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Blekota
Pulseuser said:
Try them and see which one works best for you.
Sent from a "Galaxy" far, far away with my Ultra Ray Gun
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My choose would be Blekotas S5 Rom
Instead i suggest Imperium KitKat
The best thing? Try them both and choose yourself
base on archiport you can try this one http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s3/development/rom-ultimarom-v16-0-typhoon-t1911572
i use qs kk since couple of weeks, never have a reboot or problems, just wps isnt actually working, i think is the most stable stock porting,
I recommend qs rom with boeffla kernel 6.1 beta 3. I'm using for a few days and no fc or reboots. Also very stable and fast
My opinion Omni rom 4.4.4 Rom is one of the fastest rom i've ever seen,and i've never noticed even one unstability issue(only in an update that it has now been fixed).
This is a good choice if you like pure android and pure speed
Also give a try to enable art runtime at developer settings,it makes phone uses less memory and less battery (and battery life is extremely well)
For stock samsung TW rom, all of the roms are currently unstable builds
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Hi guys!
What is the most stable Stock ROM 4.4.2 for the S3 i9300?
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This is a very open ended question. What maybe stable for one will not be for another. All you will archive is a topic full of people saying "x" one is better. (Which is already happening).
Best thing to do is read up on all roms you are interested and try them out for yourself and your setup. With titanium backup its not hard these days.
As an example I use temasek unofficial cm11. I have never had an issue with it and its always worked perfectly but if you were to search the forums about cm issues you would find 100's of topics about camera issues etc.
Darke5tShad0w said:
This is a very open ended question. What maybe stable for one will not be for another. All you will archive is a topic full of people saying "x" one is better. (Which is already happening).
Best thing to do is read up on all roms you are interested and try them out for yourself and your setup. With titanium backup its not hard these days.
As an example I use temasek unofficial cm11. I have never had an issue with it and its always worked perfectly but if you were to search the forums about cm issues you would find 100's of topics about camera issues etc.
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Take a picture / record a video with cm11 and with stock sammy camera.
Try to focus video on cm, manually, and try to get good, non-grainy pictures on cm, you can not do that as good as on stock sammy camera.
I tested many many roms based on cm, and none of them got a good (for me) image.
P.S. i'm a heavy snapper, for other who take few pictures it'll do good.
Please can someone get me the quaraqumus QS-i9300-KK-v2.6 resumable link
Don't try Archiport, it works slow. i prefer QS port, so try every rom based on QS . I use clean with some addons from Bloatware.

AOSP vs. Stock...Post Your Thoughts/Experience, Plus a Quick How-To AOSP on vs985

This started as a PM to a member that seemed like it might be at least a little useful to others as well, so I'm putting it in a thread. The question asked was (heavily paraphrased): What works/what doesn't on AOSP vs. Stock? My answer can't possibly cover every positive/negative out there, so a thread might help those on the fence or just considering giving it a whirl. What I can do is help people that haven't flashed AOSP to take note of the quirks in actually getting one installed.
First, some tips on flashing an AOSP ROM to the VS985 G3.
I always wipe everything, including internal storage, but especially so when jumping between stock & AOSP. Then I install all software from my SD card. That's a personal preference, but I almost never have problems and attribute that to thorough wiping.
This is pretty basic, but if you've only flashed stock, you need to know that AOSP requires you to flash both the ROM itself and gapps. I'm using the TK Gapps Full package, for what that's worth.
Specific to our phone, if you value the QuickRemote app, you can get it for flashing and use on AOSP ROMs. See this thread.
You will probably want a better camera than the Google camera included with AOSP. To that end, I use the flashable MotoX camera port and accompanying gallery. See this thread for that camera. There are other cameras and I'm happy to post what people use in here if you supply links.
Lastly, some ROMs do a baseband check. Since 24B is somewhat new, chances are decent you'll be trying to flash an AOSP ROM that dislikes your modem, so you'll need to flash the 23C modem before you flash the ROM; otherwise it may thrown an error and refuse to install the ROM. After installing you can then flash back to 24B modem (which gets better signal for me). Here are the modems:
23C modem - https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=95916177934553732
24B modem - https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=24052804347773137
Everybody does things differently, but my process for installing is....
Install Process
0) Back up your photos/files. Back up your apps with Titanium Backup & move them to your SD card.
1) Wipe everything, including internal storage.
2) Install the ROM.
3) (optional) Install the Kernel of your choice. **
4) Install gapps.
5) Install camera (and gallery if you want).
6) Install QuickRemote.
7) Wipe cache/dalvic for good measure.
8) Boot up, log in, get everything set up.
9) (optional) Go back into TWRP and install the 24B Modem.
**It's usually worth it to check out the stock kernel first, then if you want to try others you can do so later on. IF it's later, personally, I always wipe cache/dalvic after flashing a kernel. I'm putting the step in there because if I already know the kernel and like it, or if I'm upgrading the ROM, I'll go ahead and install with the ROM.
Thoughts/Experience Comments
The only real thing I miss vs. stock is the camera. That said, there are good options out there, including the previously mentioned MotoX. Image quality seems to be near, if not quite all the way to, stock. It doesn't seem to want to save photos to SD though, so keep that in mind when you want to flash a different ROM - you'll need to get your photos off internal storage.
If you use a different camera and want to supply a link/links, please do so and I'll be happy to add them to the OP!
Aside from the camera, there has always been talk of slightly decreased signal. I have not found that to be the case; in fact, WiFi seems stronger. I do not use bluetooth at all, but have seen in the past that bluetooth has been an issue, depending on the ROM. You'll just need to read through ROM threads and find out whether that's an issue for you. I have zero functionality problems with anything.
Battery life is definitely better for me on AOSP. SkyDragon is superb for a stock ROM, but stock stuff on top of AOSP does cost some battery, even though SkyDragon does a superb job of minimizing that.
Truth be told, I prefer the AOSP interface to LG's. The main reason I usually stick with stock/go back to stock is the camera. The moto camera is close enough that I might stay with AOSP for a while, at least until LG updates stock again, then my crack-flash-addiction may take over.
FWIW, I am very happily using Orion ROM right now, along with the Nebula kernel and TK Gapps.
Please feel free to share your input on AOSP experience. Mine is not all-encompassing, and surely people have problems that I haven't run into. Also share your cameras - I'm always on the lookout for good options there too.
The only thing that keeps me coming back to stock (which I really don't care for) is that I feel like receiving SMS and MMS is delayed by a minute or more on AOSP.
I've been back and forth. And like you, I simply cannot do without Xcam. I've had some problems with the Moto cam freezing up. Xcam gives me top notch quality. And speaker quality on stock is much better with Dolby mod. Battery life is much better on AOSP. But I I find LG stock to be overall much more stable.
I agree with the OP's opinion about stock vs. ASOP. I was on CM 12.1 for a couple of weeks and I really enjoyed the fast boot times, better battery life and patched Stagefright security hole. I had some issues customizing the onscreen buttons where it wouldn't stick, depending on which daily you ran that week.
But I really missed the camera: stock is much better than any of the suggested substitutes, IMHO.
Amusingly, I'm back on stock again. My little affair with AOSP was, as it seems to ever be, relatively short lived. I really enjoy the interface, but things are just more smooth on SkyDragon. No amount of optimization can seem to overcome the proprietary driver capability on stock. I love AOSP, but can't seem to stick with it for very long. Oh, and the camera. Stock (again, proprietary driver issue) is just plain better.
On the plus side, I'm getting the same signal strength now on Stock and AOSP with the 24B modem. That disparity seems to be a thing of the past. I'm not completely done with AOSP and have a nandroid backup of both of them that I bounce between now, because why not? Orion is a heck of a ROM and but for the camera and very minor GUI lag on occasion, it's close to as good as stock.
The stock LG rom is really laggy for me, especially pulling down the notification shade. My two year old Moto X is much smoother then this LG. Battery life sucks on the X though.
PiousInquisitor said:
The stock LG rom is really laggy for me, especially pulling down the notification shade. My two year old Moto X is much smoother then this LG. Battery life sucks on the X though.
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Even on a custom ROM? Try SkyDragon 5.0 w/ SkyDragon Kernel 4.2. Do NOT install Xposed via the Aroma installer though. It's an older version and removes LG weather/circle case which used to be required for Xposed to function. You're much better off installing the new version of Xposed after the ROM if you want to use that.
I get no such lag on SkyDragon. On absolute stock from LG I did get some, but not with HolyAngel's great ROM & kernel. :good:
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Even on a custom ROM? Try SkyDragon 5.0 w/ SkyDragon Kernel 4.2. Do NOT install Xposed via the Aroma installer though. It's an older version and removes LG weather/circle case which used to be required for Xposed to function. You're much better off installing the new version of Xposed after the ROM if you want to use that.
I get no such lag on SkyDragon. On absolute stock from LG I did get some, but not with HolyAngel's great ROM & kernel. :good:
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Thanks for the direct links. I was just digging through the last few pages looking for the 5.0 build. Ive been running Jasmine 8 and enjoying it but having some lag, same as stock. I ran the SD rom a while ago when it was on KK and didnt like it as much as Jas. Ill give it a try now. Switching roms on the G3 aint no thing right now as it isnt my primary device anymore. The SIM card slot died (used a sim adapter that ruined the pins) so im waiting to find someone with serious soldering skills to replace it.
Hey guys I am looking for a ROM for my girlfriend. What would you guys say is the best way to go for a blend of battery/speed/stability.
Stability is VERY important.. but if you guys say AOSP ROM I would loved for her to give that a shot.
Can any android phone run aosp? Or are there limitations on the hardware? I believe the Samsung device I have runs with CAF (based on the cm repos it uses) and I am not sure if its possible to run straight Google code or even if the kernel needs changes.
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musicfreak190 said:
Hey guys I am looking for a ROM for my girlfriend. What would you guys say is the best way to go for a blend of battery/speed/stability.
Stability is VERY important.. but if you guys say AOSP ROM I would loved for her to give that a shot.
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I would go with the previously linked SkyDragon ROM and Kernel. Orion (AOSP) is very stable, but even so, stock is always best when stability is a #1 priority. Battery might be slightly better on AOSP, but nothing to call home about.
jason972000 said:
Can any android phone run aosp? Or are there limitations on the hardware? I believe the Samsung device I have runs with CAF (based on the cm repos it uses) and I am not sure if its possible to run straight Google code or even if the kernel needs changes.
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In theory, yes....but it is device dependent It requires a developer to put an AOSP ROM together for the specific device. It also requires a custom recovery (i.e. TWRP) to be able to flash the ROM.
For anyone following along with my minor flash-addiction saga, Orion just released a new update today, which of course I'm going to try.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=62503509&postcount=77
Edit - I really do hate it, but this just isn't as smooth as stock. Even tried messing with a different kernel without success. When even gmail isn't as smooth scrolling as it should be, that's a problem for me. Back to SkyDragon.
hokiealumnus said:
For anyone following along with my minor flash-addiction saga, Orion just released a new update today, which of course I'm going to try.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=62503509&postcount=77
Edit - I really do hate it, but this just isn't as smooth as stock. Even tried messing with a different kernel without success. When even gmail isn't as smooth scrolling as it should be, that's a problem for me. Back to SkyDragon.
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I am about to flash the new Orion to replace CM12.1. I have never liked "stock" android roms that come with phones. AOSP and CM have always been so much better/smoother for me. they occasionally have stability issues but nothing that is ever too difficult to fix. The other main issue I have with stock is customizability. I have the ZeroLemon 9000mAH battery and stock based roms just dont work well with it. They seem to think it is a normal battery and will stay at 1-3% battery for hours which causes the camera to not open and other "power-saving" features to turn on...
Now to a question, hokiealumnus, have you had any issues flashing Orion? I haven't tried the newest version yet but when I tried to flash the older versions in TWRP (latest) it would give me an binary-updater issue. I see in your thread you recommend flashing the 23C modem before flashing a ROM because it could cause issues, I didn't know about that so I will try it tonight when I get home but was wondering if you knew if Orion was one of the ROMs with that issue?
r3xx3r said:
I am about to flash the new Orion to replace CM12.1. I have never liked "stock" android roms that come with phones. AOSP and CM have always been so much better/smoother for me. they occasionally have stability issues but nothing that is ever too difficult to fix. The other main issue I have with stock is customizability. I have the ZeroLemon 9000mAH battery and stock based roms just dont work well with it. They seem to think it is a normal battery and will stay at 1-3% battery for hours which causes the camera to not open and other "power-saving" features to turn on...
Now to a question, hokiealumnus, have you had any issues flashing Orion? I haven't tried the newest version yet but when I tried to flash the older versions in TWRP (latest) it would give me an binary-updater issue. I see in your thread you recommend flashing the 23C modem before flashing a ROM because it could cause issues, I didn't know about that so I will try it tonight when I get home but was wondering if you knew if Orion was one of the ROMs with that issue?
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I've always been intrigued by the ZeroLemon battery, but it was just too large for me to take the plunge.
Anyway, yes, you are correct on why it is giving you a binary-updater error. It's checking the baseband version and when it doesn't see the 23C modem, it throws the error. If you flash the 23C modem you'll get the ROM installed no problem. You can later re-install the 24B modem without issue, which performs better for me than 23C does.
Orion isn't the only AOSP ROM to have that problem either, I had it on BrokenROM when I tried that one as well.
hokiealumnus said:
I've always been intrigued by the ZeroLemon battery, but it was just too large for me to take the plunge.
Anyway, yes, you are correct on why it is giving you a binary-updater error. It's checking the baseband version and when it doesn't see the 23C modem, it throws the error. If you flash the 23C modem you'll get the ROM installed no problem. You can later re-install the 24B modem without issue, which performs better for me than 23C does.
Orion isn't the only AOSP ROM to have that problem either, I had it on BrokenROM when I tried that one as well.
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any idea why roms care what modem the phone has?
I really enjoy the ZeroLemon, it is f-ing huge on the G3, and quite a bit more expensive than older phones. I had it for the Galaxy S4 and it was about half the price. But I really enjoy it, I charge my phone every night anyway (old habit), but it is really nice to not have to and I am a pretty heavy user so battery is really important to me. I won't buy a phone if I can't get a big battery like this and put in at least a 32GB microsd card. The best (and kinda worst) part about the zerolemons are the rugged case. It offers really great protection from drops, though it is not easy to take off
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any idea why roms care what modem the phone has?
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I think it's attempting to ensure a) the phone the ROM is being installed on is the right phone and b) there isn't a KK modem (12B) on the phone, which does not work at all with Lollipop. (Likewise, Lollipop modems do NOT work with the KK builds.)
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I think it's attempting to ensure a) the phone the ROM is being installed on is the right phone and b) there isn't a KK modem (12B) on the phone, which does not work at all with Lollipop. (Likewise, Lollipop modems do NOT work with the KK builds.)
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that makes sense. so I just installed the latest Orion ROM and ran into a bad issue. have you had an issue with the Cellular Networks setting not enabling? I try to enable it in the Settings and it just turns itself off and I can only get 1X if that, I normally have LTE, i tried 23C and 24B modems and cleaned flashed twice. any suggestions?
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that makes sense. so I just installed the latest Orion ROM and ran into a bad issue. have you had an issue with the Cellular Networks setting not enabling? I try to enable it in the Settings and it just turns itself off and I can only get 1X if that, I normally have LTE, i tried 23C and 24B modems and cleaned flashed twice. any suggestions?
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Sorry to say I haven't had that issue, no. It takes more time on boot to acquire cell signal vs stock, but once it does it seems just as strong and 4G as stock.
If you haven't already, when clean flashing, do so by wiping internal storage too (and installing from SD Card). I find doing that when switching between stock and AOSP to be reliable. I mean, I regularly do that anyway, but especially when making that switch.
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Sorry to say I haven't had that issue, no. It takes more time on boot to acquire cell signal vs stock, but once it does it seems just as strong and 4G as stock.
If you haven't already, when clean flashing, do so by wiping internal storage too (and installing from SD Card). I find doing that when switching between stock and AOSP to be reliable. I mean, I regularly do that anyway, but especially when making that switch.
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That was part of what I did initially. I always wipe system, cache, dalvik, data, and internal storage when switching ROMS
r3xx3r said:
that makes sense. so I just installed the latest Orion ROM and ran into a bad issue. have you had an issue with the Cellular Networks setting not enabling? I try to enable it in the Settings and it just turns itself off and I can only get 1X if that, I normally have LTE, i tried 23C and 24B modems and cleaned flashed twice. any suggestions?
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I recently switched from Jasmine 8.0 to Paranoidandroid. I liked the AOSP Rom for the most part but I had quite a few data network issues. My data kept dropping out and I either had to reboot or enable airplane mode and disable it. A couple of times it set airplane mode to on by itself. I did a clean flash but didn't help. Stock had been the most solid for me as pure basic functionality.
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Seriously, why is this phone so slow on Marshmallow?

Seriously, why? I just don't get how people bear to use it, there are so many custom ROMs with 5.0+. Fresh CM is usable when freshly installed, but after logging in Google Account and installing just few Google apps, it just haaaaaangs on ever task you do. I mean I get it - this phone is almost 5 years old - but I own some older devices like Galaxy S II and it is so much faster on Marshmallow.
Or am I just missing something out? I'm using Safestrap's stock ROM. But when I leave stock and install something CM-based on other slots it's even worse (why?). It's the same memory chip. Or is it?
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Seriously, why? I just don't get how people bear to use it, there are so many custom ROMs with 5.0+. Fresh CM is usable when freshly installed, but after logging in Google Account and installing just few Google apps, it just haaaaaangs on ever task you do. I mean I get it - this phone is almost 5 years old - but I own some older devices like Galaxy S II and it is so much faster on Marshmallow.
Or am I just missing something out? I'm using Safestrap's stock ROM. But when I leave stock and install something CM-based on other slots it's even worse (why?). It's the same memory chip. Or is it?
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I think this phone is slow with custom roms for the kind of kernel it has (Kexec), remember this phone never had a chance to unlock his bootloader (as far as I know) and that is probably the reason , I say this because I have an old Galaxy Tab 2 with the same processor and I have it with MM, it's slower but not at the level of the razr
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I think this phone is slow with custom roms for the kind of kernel it has (Kexec), remember this phone never had a chance to unlock his bootloader (as far as I know) and that is probably the reason , I say this because I have an old Galaxy Tab 2 with the same processor and I have it with MM, it's slower but not at the level of the razr
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I thought bootloader was unlocked? Been gone for too long...
I find the last one usable to be 4.3, KitKat is not much better than L/M.
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I find the last one usable to be 4.3, KitKat is not much better than L/M.
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Yes but does not work HDMI and camera
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Yes but does not work HDMI and camera
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Yeah, I just notices that it has problems shooting video, otherwise so far so good... I'm actually thinking about going back to 4.1 stock... are there any good stock based ROMs?
krYshuT said:
Yeah, I just notices that it has problems shooting video, otherwise so far so good... I'm actually thinking about going back to 4.1 stock... are there any good stock based ROMs?
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There is one here XT910 JELLY BEAN 4.1.2 ARTMOD V4.3 Final (Spanish web) http://www.htcmania.com/showthread.php?t=605325

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