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As the title says is it technically possible to have webos on the X10 since i think both are basically linux down at the core? I do realize web OS needs a gesture area but somehow if it can be programmed to use the buttons the X10 has...
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As the title says is it technically possible to have webos on the X10 since i think both are basically linux down at the core? I do realize web OS needs a gesture area but somehow if it can be programmed to use the buttons the X10 has...
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wish it gets froyo first, then worry about webOS
Well let's say that is our main priority but web OS gets updates every couple of months and is more intuitive and a little more fun with the card view.
BTW I am not trying to make this a contest between web OS and android, I know both have weaknesses and strengths.
Impossible. WebOS is closed source.
I frankly dont understand why these threads even get started, considering the bootloader still is locked u cant flash any other **** on it then the original SonyEricsson Signed ROMS wich for now (And the future) ALWAYS will be Android...
So unless the bootloader gets cracked...
BUT when that happens im sure u can even put in Windows XP / Ubuntu or something other usless...
Are you a little daft or what? It's a hypothetical question... as in, is it possible? If you read the forums ofcourse you are bound to know that the boot loader isn't cracked yet.
So if you seriously think "why threads like these get opened", stop clicking on them and even worse replying to them. So apparently you have way too much time on your hands, to reply to things you don't even like. If not stop being a troll and let's move on.
debian can be installed on the x10, I wouldn't be surprised if webOS could be, hypothetically of course
Hi all - just signed up. I'm receiving my 10 Monday. I have an Infinity and wanted to give the Nexus 10 shot as it seems like a great tablet. I'm not likely to root either one. Is there anything you all suggest to get the most out of the Nexus 10? I'm fairly new to the tablet world although have owned an android phone for several years.
Thanks!
Welcome and congrats! Here is a link someone started that shares your question.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2023608
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^ Great thread for starters but make sure and DO YOUR READING before you unlock and root your device -- or you will end up with a $400 makeshift frisbee disk. Unlocking your boot-loader/rooting is what makes android so much fun, I would recommend it
Derp: sounds you've rooted before, but I suppose the above statement still stands lol
TheEmpyre said:
^ Great thread for starters but make sure and DO YOUR READING before you unlock and root your device -- or you will end up with a $400 makeshift frisbee disk. Unlocking your boot-loader/rooting is what makes android so much fun, I would recommend it
Derp: sounds you've rooted before, but I suppose the above statement still stands lol
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I did read that thread but as I said - I'm not likely to root...at least not right away.
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I did read that thread but as I said - I'm not likely to root...at least not right away.
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Sounds like quite a few people are unlocking / rooting and leaving the stock ROM which is likely what I will do. I like having the freedom that Root provides to install some apps etc.
Nexus 10 will be my first tablet also, so I'll be having quite a bit of fun for the first few weeks figuring out how exactly I will be using it
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Sounds like quite a few people are unlocking / rooting and leaving the stock ROM which is likely what I will do. I like having the freedom that Root provides to install some apps etc.
Nexus 10 will be my first tablet also, so I'll be having quite a bit of fun for the first few weeks figuring out how exactly I will be using it
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Still a little nervous about the rooting process....and its risks. What exactly are the benefits?
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Still a little nervous about the rooting process....and its risks. What exactly are the benefits?
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From what I've gathered, and from experience, I think the benefits of Root give the user a great deal more control of what goes on with his/her device -- that is, in part, what apps are accessing resources. For example, with my HTC One XL, I was able to install an app (which requires root access) that allows me to freeze apps while they are not in use -- launch them to unfreeze and use them when I need but when I'm not using, they aren't going to automatically run processes that drain my battery. I also installed a custom Kernel, and there is a root-required app that allows me to adjust my CPU frequencies and voltages to maximize battery life and performance.
I am relatively new to rooting devices, as I started in late October, but I can tell you that I have had a ton of fun doing it.
In any event, I really dont think rooting is that valuable to mainstream users if you ask me -- If you aren't looking into flashing custom ROMs or using special utilities/apps on your device then I wouldn't bother rooting/unlocking bootloader.
Since you asked risks I'll address that too: The risks are bricking (completely unusable) your device if you flash an incompatible ROM, but this is easily avoided by sticking only to flashing ROMs for the Nexus 10. You can also damage the components of your device if you overclock too much etc....Other risks are that ROMs are buggy sometimes despite the very hard work of the devs here (They are truly amazing here) but the bugs may take away from your experience potentially. There may be plenty of other risks but these are the ones I can think of so far.
I was completely unaware of root/unlock up until about 2 months ago and was completely new to the process. I was able to read great guides put together by the XDA community here that walked me through the process and I was successful in unlocking my One X and I now finally feel like I am getting the moneys worth out of my device that I payed good $$$ for.
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Still a little nervous about the rooting process....and its risks. What exactly are the benefits?
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Rooting is quick and painless if you use the Nexus 10 Toolkit available in the development section! My Galaxy Nexus also has a toolkit from the same dev, makes things SO much easier/quicker.
The risks of rooting are almost non-existent. Really, if the procedure doesn't work for you, nothing changes & you just won't have root permissions. I've personally never had anything bad happen, but I'm sure there is someone out there who has tried some sketchy method to root...the methods here are far from that, just read up and follow the instructions.
Benefits are basically the freedom to remove system apps and make backups of any of your apps. There are also a ton of root apps that allow you to customize your device the way you like it. With root, you get full control and the freedom to tinker.
Nexus devices are absolutley meant for consumers who don't root or unlock, but what is great about them is if you want to do either of the latter..it is much easier to do.
Also, I suggest you try and personally compare your N10 and Infinity before you read any of the general comparison threads. lol
Oh and welcome to the vanilla side of Android! :good:
- Mac
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Rooting is quick and painless if you use the Nexus 10 Toolkit available in the development section! My Galaxy Nexus also has a toolkit from the same dev, makes things SO much easier/quicker.
The risks of rooting are almost non-existent. Really, if the procedure doesn't work for you, nothing changes & you just won't have root permissions. I've personally never had anything bad happen, but I'm sure there is someone out there who has tried some sketchy method to root...the methods here are far from that, just read up and follow the instructions.
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Toolkits are a nice method for rooting for beginners, but (imo) it's better to learn how to flash (and do generally other stuff) without the need of a toolkit.
When I rooted my Nexus 10, I just unlocked the bootloader (manually with fastboot), restocked, installed custom recovery (TWRP; fastboot) and then flashed a SuperSU CWM-flashable package from recovery. I did a lot of messing around with flashing and stuff on my SGT7 and Nexus 7, so this wasn't really anything new or difficult at all. I started out with a toolkit on my Nexus 7, and found it very annoying after a while when trying to flash a custom recovery (generally took a while for the device to end up having to reboot and unlock, and if I already did unlock then I think the toolkit wouldn't continue on unless I selected another option, and then if drivers aren't installed properly (I switched between a few devices) then that can also cause the toolkit to mess up, drivers and adb would be outdated from the toolkit in-comparison to what Google offered, etc.).
Simply put, Toolkits might be nice in the beginning, but I wouldn't recommend relying on them forever If your only mission is to just root the device though, a toolkit can do that pretty painlessly.
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Toolkits are a nice method for rooting for beginners, but (imo) it's better to learn how to flash (and do generally other stuff) without the need of a toolkit.
When I rooted my Nexus 10, I just unlocked the bootloader (manually with fastboot), restocked, installed custom recovery (TWRP; fastboot) and then flashed a SuperSU CWM-flashable package from recovery. I did a lot of messing around with flashing and stuff on my SGT7 and Nexus 7, so this wasn't really anything new or difficult at all. I started out with a toolkit on my Nexus 7, and found it very annoying after a while when trying to flash a custom recovery (generally took a while for the device to end up having to reboot and unlock, and if I already did unlock then I think the toolkit wouldn't continue on unless I selected another option, and then if drivers aren't installed properly (I switched between a few devices) then that can also cause the toolkit to mess up, drivers and adb would be outdated from the toolkit in-comparison to what Google offered, etc.).
Simply put, Toolkits might be nice in the beginning, but I wouldn't recommend relying on them forever If your only mission is to just root the device though, a toolkit can do that pretty painlessly.
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Absolutely agree with you on that one. My first Android device was a Infuse 4G. Every root and recovery procedure was absolutely manual. Not to mention most of the methods were hackjobs from the OG Galaxy S and required some extra coersing w/ Root Explorer and a terminal lol. Once I got my GNex, I could do anything I needed to do manually; I was actually rather shocked at how simple things were w/ a Nexus device.
Really though, I don't at all mind these toolkits, it might be important to learn what goes on behind the scripts, but lots of ppl here would have never attempted to tinker w/ android w/o some sort of script/batch automation. That said, i'm sure they cause quite a bit more traffic in the Q&A section when things to go wrong. lol
Thanks for all of the replies.
It should arrive today and I'll compare it with my Infinity first and then go from there.
Looking forward to know the N10
When I first received mine, I didnt think that I would recieve it till closer to the end of day, as stated with UPS. But it arrived at 10am! Hoping it happens the second time around for my replacement. Would love to have the whole day playing with it
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Is it possible to port/install Windows Phone 8 on an Android based device?
No. But Android W8 themes/Roms have been made. Basically modifies the look of android to achieve the look of W8
I'm not really focused on the look, rather the OS itself. Much like one could flash iOS onto an Android device.
You mean the menus as opposed to the live tiles? IOS can't be done either.
I'm talking about replacing the Android OS (kernel, /system, /data, all partitions) with the Windows Phone 8 OS. Not just the UI, but the whole thing.
@xlxcrossing he's wanting to replace the entire OS, not just the UI. Like putting Ubuntu on a Windows PC.
As for the original question, it could, in theory, be possible. However, it would be extremely difficult due to WP8 being closed source, and not based on Linux. You would pretty much have to start from scratch, and many parts of it would most likely be broken and unfixable. It would be hard to find a dev willing to take it on. It's not the same as porting AOSP or even Ubuntu Touch.
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@_phoey Thanks for the answer. Has Ubuntu Touch been ported yet? Or can I just go to Ubuntu's website and snag it there?
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I found this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2199491
But it's tools to build. Something I'm unable to do (not lack of wanting to learn, but unstable internet to setup buildbox).
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@_phoey Thanks for the answer. Has Ubuntu Touch been ported yet? Or can I just go to Ubuntu's website and snag it there?
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I found this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2199491
But it's tools to build. Something I'm unable to do (not lack of wanting to learn, but unstable internet to setup buildbox).
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I think that someone here began work on it, but never got it to a stable state. I also have an unstable internet connection, and am also lacking a somewhat modern PC with enough memory and storage to build on, or I would attempt it.
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@xlxcrossing he's wanting to replace the entire OS, not just the UI. Like putting Ubuntu on a Windows PC.
As for the original question, it could, in theory, be possible. However, it would be extremely difficult due to WP8 being closed source, and not based on Linux. You would pretty much have to start from scratch, and many parts of it would most likely be broken and unfixable. It would be hard to find a dev willing to take it on. It's not the same as porting AOSP or even Ubuntu Touch.
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I Knew that, he made a comment about the "look" being different from the "OS itself" in regards to me telling him there are themes that transform it into Windows 8. My first answer was the short version of yours, which was no.
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I Knew that, he made a comment about the "look" being different from the "OS itself" in regards to me telling him there are themes that transform it into Windows 8. My first answer was the short version of yours, which was no.
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With all due respect, your original answers seemed rather vague and easily misunderstood. They led me to believe that you were thinking he was just wanting a theme, not the entire OS. My apologies for misunderstanding.
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With all due respect, your original answers seemed rather vague and easily misunderstood. They led me to believe that you were thinking he was just wanting a theme, not the entire OS. My apologies for misunderstanding.
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Not really. He said he wanted WP8 which I understood completely. But why would someone want that but then not care about how it looks? His response is what was confusing, so I ushered him in a direction to get the Windows 8 "experience" on his phone without the actual port which at this time as you've already stated doesn't exist. So in review I helped him to go toward what he wanted as opposed to describing why something isn't available. Vague and to-the-point are separate things.
i need a very simple way to flash my phone with ubuntu touch please
thought it would be simpler to just paste the thread title.... im running in circles trying to accomplish this but keep smashing into brick walls....
tried installing from Ubuntu itself.. its an old version.. too old to understand the $ cmd.......when it comes to linux im a complete moron..... but im smart enough to know that my samsung Ace2 is too damned slow on android.. to the point im having difficulty answering calls
i want android GONE.. i dont want dual boot.. i want android GONE
and, i want a simple install please.. as simple as wubi.exe... in fact it was the only way i was capable of installing ubuntu or xubuntu on my notebooks.. yes ladies and gents.. im converted.. im done with microsoft, most likely 4 good... so please tell me how i can accomplish this task
thank you, much regards to all you for keeping linux alive till today...
Chris
Ubuntu Touch is not for your device... Sorry.
There is the deprecated Ubuntu for Android.
Try this XDA thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1585009
RumoredNow said:
Ubuntu Touch is not for your device... Sorry.
There is the deprecated Ubuntu for Android.
Try this XDA thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1585009
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might i ask why my smartphone isnt elidgible ?
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might i ask why my smartphone isnt elidgible ?
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It will only work if there's a port for your device. Sadly, mobile devices aren't as easy to handle as desktop computers. On the desktop you can take the OS and install it on (almost) all devices because it includes drivers for all standard PC components. On mobiles, however, you need separate drivers for every device as all devices are special and (more important) the manufacturer often does not make it easy for devs to write the necessary drivers. Always remember, we who are modding our phones are a minority.
You shouldn't be too sorry about the absence of a port for your device though. Ubuntu is (even though it's rapidly making progress) much slower than Android, even on officially supported devices.
thank you, but i wont give up.. i downloaded kali linux.. now just trying to figure out a way to open a .img file from android
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thank you, but i wont give up.. i downloaded kali linux.. now just trying to figure out a way to open a .img file from android
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Dude, you are going to brick your phone. You can't just flash whatever to wherever.
Your phone was built for Gingerbread. It is thin on Hardware resources. I'm sure it is struggling if you've updated it into Jelly Bean. There are alternate ROMs that might run better on an Ace 2. Check the Ace 2 forum at XDA... http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-ace Debloat the damn thing. Samsung layers so much icing on there you can't taste the actual cake. I mean the skin (Touchwiz) is sooo thick it robs the performance. Especially at your phone's age and the major jumps in OS version it's gone through. You've got to blast out a lot of the grunge that's clogging the pipes.
If you truly want away from Android get a phone designed for another OS. You can get a brand new phone fairly inexpensive off contract and not have to deal with Android. I like the Nokia Lumia 520. A great entry level phone that is modern and runs well without breaking the bank. Or maybe you can find a quality used phone on Craig's list.
i find it hard to believe a bricked ace 2 is any different than a functional 1.. i never flashed anything onto it...
okay.. ill try downgrading it to gingerbread..... need to figure out how though lol
ragez0r said:
i find it hard to believe a bricked ace 2 is any different than a functional 1.. i never flashed anything onto it...
okay.. ill try downgrading it to gingerbread..... need to figure out how though lol
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Dude, not to be an ass. But there are a couple things... You will need to develop your own drivers. If you do (somehow) get a standard Linux distro installed, you won't even be able to get the screen to turn on. Second of all....YOUR PHONE CAN BARELY RUN ANDROID! What makes you think it can handle a full Linux operating system like Kali Linux? And the last thing you need to realize. You WILL NOT be able to make calls, text, or get mobile data on your phone. If the phone is that bad...go out and get a new phone. Sorry man.
So im reading the cm wiki and the steps dont seem impossible. In fact, if you have a decent linux machine and a basic understanding of linux, and enough spare time, it seems doable.
For awhile i heard write protection was a massive barrier but now we're s-off.
The part where the wiki gets vague is "talent". I have no idea where the talent part comes in?
This is because the wiki says depending on your device porting a rom could be easy or very difficult.
I think the "easy" has to do with what device the desire 610 most resembles...is there a phone that comes close?
Im just looking for anyone that can articulate the process of porting to this phone.
***on a quasy related note, does anyone with s-off feel like they got their moneys worth? I mean other than the obvious of writing to system and removing red text? I can live the red text and s-off to me is only as good as what you get to do with it. Anyone tried different radios yet?
The Sony Xperia M2 is very simmilar excpet it has a 4.8" screen
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The Sony Xperia M2 is very simmilar excpet it has a 4.8" screen
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Yes. It is VERY similar, released shortly before the 610 and its got cm 11 and 12. Thanks!
Update--looking at the threads...those ROMs are still very much in the testing phase. Actually seems cm12 has less bugs. But the camera doesn't work on either build.
So M2 has more dev support than us but not as much as I hoped. I remember using a CM
on another device and the camera didn't work but one from play store did--maybe nexus? Don't really matter I suppose. I use this phone daily so don't have much interest, but I'll be keeping an eye on those guys.