So far, at least over bluetooth, no equalizer seems to be working. There is a built in audio effects app, but that doesn't work, nor does disabling it seem to enable other apps to work.
Any ideas?
I strongly recommend Viper4Android. However, It's a little finicky on the stock rom, so you may also want to flash a rom before hand.
No root for this version of the phone yet.
Disable the phone's audio effect app, then use the EQ in PowerAmp. It works fine, using a BT headset.
Ace42 said:
Disable the phone's audio effect app, then use the EQ in PowerAmp. It works fine, using a BT headset.
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This is for streaming audio, not mp3s. PowerAmp just uses it's own built in player right? Won't work for my needs if so.
adamx said:
This is for streaming audio, not mp3s. PowerAmp just uses it's own built in player right? Won't work for my needs if so.
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I have multiple audio forms including AAC and OGG for songs. PowerAmp can use the device's equalizer OR the OS's (incl V4A, Dolby, SRS, etc). You need to disable DVC in PowerAmp settings for 3rd party equalizers to function. Also PA's equalizer can be disabled as there's a switch for it.
I don't have BT speakers to stream to or whatever, but over BT headphones I can edit the equalizer without issues.
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I have multiple audio forms including AAC and OGG for songs. PowerAmp can use the device's equalizer OR the OS's (incl V4A, Dolby, SRS, etc). You need to disable DVC in PowerAmp settings for 3rd party equalizers to function. Also PA's equalizer can be disabled as there's a switch for it.
I don't have BT speakers to stream to or whatever, but over BT headphones I can edit the equalizer without issues.
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Right but can you use this with pandora, slacker, or spotify? Or does the audio have to be played within poweramp?
adam.nox said:
Right but can you use this with pandora, slacker, or spotify? Or does the audio have to be played within poweramp?
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Works with PA, but I can test it with youtube, Soundcloud, or one of ^those little later.
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Right but can you use this with pandora, slacker, or spotify? Or does the audio have to be played within poweramp?
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It has to be played in poweramp. Unfortunately, without root, as far as streaming music goes. you're screwed. There are other equalizers on the Play Store, but due to Android's stupid equalizer API, they all hook into the system equalizer, which means they all sound the same.
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Hi, Im using Checkrom4. As I often hear music from live streams(online radio,kies cast etc.,) I want to set global EQ settings, which will affect every app I use for music. I installed DSP, but most of the features dont work and it doesnt affect the music player for some reason. Same story with other EQ apps from the market. So is it possible to have the same settings for all music apps, or I have to use the built in EQ for music player and DSP for everyting else?
Also can you recommend me fully working DSP for Sammy roms?
I've tried looking but the only EQ settings I find are for the built in music player. I use Spotify and it seems the EQ there does not change it for an app like Spotify. Is there an EQ option that I'm not seeing in the SGS3 outside the music player? If not, would an app like Power Amp make a difference so I can tweak it to my ears?
Thanks!
Jonbo298 said:
I've tried looking but the only EQ settings I find are for the built in music player. I use Spotify and it seems the EQ there does not change it for an app like Spotify. Is there an EQ option that I'm not seeing in the SGS3 outside the music player? If not, would an app like Power Amp make a difference so I can tweak it to my ears?
Thanks!
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I had the same problem, so I ended up installing a free equalizer from the market-->https://play.google.com/store/apps/...sImNvbS5zbWFydGFuZHJvaWRhcHBzLmVxdWFsaXplciJd
I've been pretty pleased so far, though I REALLY miss the audio from my Captivate...
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I had the same problem, so I ended up installing a free equalizer from the market-->https://play.google.com/store/apps/...sImNvbS5zbWFydGFuZHJvaWRhcHBzLmVxdWFsaXplciJd
I've been pretty pleased so far, though I REALLY miss the audio from my Captivate...
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Went ahead and downloaded that. World of difference with the earbuds. I don't know how I put up with Apple's earbuds for so long after listening to the ones that come with the GS3.
Since DSP still doesn't seem to work properly on our device on CM10.2, does anyone happen to know of a good EQ to use as a substitute? I'm currently on Viper4Android, which works fantastically with Shuttle music player. However, it doesn't seem to pick up audio from any other apps, such as Pandora or YouTube. Any input is appreciated!
This refers to the eragon 2.8 rom that comes with both.
Should only one be used for best sound?
For years I have not bothered with anything like this as I used the poweramp app which comes with its own sound settings that I've been happy with. Can I get better sound using Dolby or viper?
What are your opinions on this?
Both drivers can provide a much better audio if you equalize them correctly.
I prefer viper because you can have a different profile for the speaker, headhones and usb/bluetooth.
With atmos, if you equalize correctly for the speaker, when you listen through the headphones it's messed up with a lot of bass and i end up turning atmos off and on.
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Both drivers can provide a much better audio if you equalize them correctly.
I prefer viper because you can have a different profile for the speaker, headhones and usb/bluetooth.
With atmos, if you equalize correctly for the speaker, when you listen through the headphones it's messed up with a lot of bass and i end up turning atmos off and on.
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Do you use the music player that came with eragon?
If you use a different music player app that has its own eq/tone settings, should I leave them flat/0?
arlrb said:
Do you use the music player that came with eragon?
If you use a different music player app that has its own eq/tone settings, should I leave them flat/0?
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I am talking about Spotify for music, speaker ok but if a play it in my car's bluetooth audio is a mess.
I noticed same behaviour with youtube in speaker/headphones (can't play youtube in my car yer )
I think best equalizer profile for the speaker has a 'U' form.
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Do you use the music player that came with eragon?
If you use a different music player app that has its own eq/tone settings, should I leave them flat/0?
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JetAudio Plus with its own 20 band EQ all the way for me.
Hello,
An update of the music player i am using (AIMP for android, free) just release an update (v 2.60) with the ability to choose between opensl and audiotrack for the sound engine. In audiotrack, i'm pretty sure it is driving the akm dac 4490 inside my axon 7 (mine 2017G B06) : when i switch between super and normal in audio settings there's a blank and i hear clearly the difference.
I ve search for other players that can drive the axon 7 dac and i found :
- stock player
- neutron
- google play music
is it right ?
Have a good day.
nevro
Hi, neutron player false positive I think.
Switching super HiFi and changing sound in player does not mean that it fully utilitize akm DAC. You will get better Sound on YouTube on any stream.
I will check aimp new features, thank you for the tip.
Try n7 player is my suggestion.
Use this if your bootloader is unlocked and the whole system can use the AKM DAC. Works on system or Magisk. https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/magisk/module-universal-deepbuffer-remover-t3577067/page11
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Use this if your bootloader is unlocked and the whole system can use the AKM DAC. Works on system or Magisk. https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/magisk/module-universal-deepbuffer-remover-t3577067/page11
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Excuse me, but can you explain why this enables the akm dac on any music player?
I don't quite understand.
Can you post a screenshot showing it works with your preferred player for example?
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Excuse me, but can you explain why this enables the akm dac on any music player?
I don't quite understand.
Can you post a screenshot showing it works with your preferred player for example?
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I've been using it on custom ROMs and my assumption is that it basically wires everything to the AKM DAC. That's because a) even in Youtube, Netflix and games the sound was clearly from the AKM DAC, and b) I'm on stock, was using Youtube without the patch and eventually felt so let down by the crappy shoebox sound that I downloaded it and flashed it.
Try it for yourself: download the flashable zip, put some music on YouTube (on stock it can't use the AKM DAC even by toggling the switch, that's why you should use youtube), then flash the zip and try again after it boots. There's no way around it, it's not placebo. It might sound worse for you if you have different cans or you want a different sound though
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Excuse me, but can you explain why this enables the akm dac on any music player?
I don't quite understand.
Can you post a screenshot showing it works with your preferred player for example?
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It allows the system sound effects like equaliser to affect all audio like how it was in KitKat. It's an option in ARISE and maybe default in Ainur (I forget, needs testing). This is just the function alone, it works well with the mod author's other audio FX installs.
I love Viper for tuning headphones for their individual Frequency Response with it's excellent graphic equaliser in V4A 2.3.4.0. Lowering output gain with it's advanced options seems to help lower Google Play Music so I can hear my game sounds higher, need to test this more to confirm. I find combining it's Speaker Optimisation with Dolby's surround with flat EQ produces the best speaker audio. Having tried most audio mods and effects on my old Z3C, keeping things simple with just these produces the best results. I'm yet to test a couple of mods that were incompatible with the Z3C and retest others on the Ax7. But as an audio purist and from experience, I don't believe any audio effects will improve audio rather than just modify the sound, unless they prove to retune the chip processing at a low level.
As Username suggested, have something like YouTube playing in the background and toggle the Hi-Fi to confirm a difference. It can be uninstalled by reflashing for system-based, or respectively via Magisk Manager, but TWRP backup in case. Audio isn't really something you can screenshot haha, it has to be on your device locally to be heard. This mod should be common knowledge by now for getting the most and expected out of an audio beast such as the Axon7 on stock.
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Thanks guys.
And what about PowerAmp on a stock rom?
Still seems troublesome on 704 alpha. Mine seemed ok but then started getting a fail error for hi res.
I just use Jet Audio as my default player with 32 bit enabled and AM3D plugin used. Sounds great.
By the way I discovered a conflict scenario when using the deep_buffer remover to allow the AKM DAC globally.
Whenever a non equaliser effect supported app (not GPlay Music or Neutron) plays any audio simultaneously over the top of another app's audio playing. The hi-fi toggle will no longer switch until audio is paused. This isn't typically a problem as Super mode is preferred and will continue to function when on headphones.
However it means if an audio track is playing on speakers and any non EQ supported app plays any audio causing the conflict, then plugging in headphones they'll be stuck on the Snapdragon DAC. The reason being that speakers use the Snapd DAC and plugging in without audio stopped continues the locked conflict where hi-fi won't switch to the set preference.
A simple workaround is to just pause/stop all audio and the hi-fi preference precedence will automatically function on resume. This can be done before or after plugging, it doesn't matter. To confirm this the hi-fi switch will then function immediately when changed.
This took me several reboots and testing various audio to pin the cause. The easiest way to tell the difference between the DACs is to turn up volume to a level that feels comfortably loud on Super, then whenever the SnapD DAC is in use instead the volume is noticeably not loud.
I haven't tested if a notification or ringer sound will cause the same conflict issue. Safer to just pause/stop all audio when starting headphone use in case of any previous audio having already caused the conflict.
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