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Well i believe i can finally make this announcment and say we have done our part in delivering the unlocks and roms and it was very fun while it lasted. our team has moved on to the newer vga and qvga devices. look for me personally to be in the touch hd forums work on roms there as long as i can get a device. as some saw my athena is for sale and if anyone is interested u can pm me or reply to the thread. was very nice knowing everyone and i hope to see most of you in the future on the newer devices. hopefully some of you will move to the touch hd and i will see you there.
good bye and good luck with your athenas. it was and still is one amazing device. sad to let her go but its time...
a sad day for the community.
(as if we won't bump on each other in the future.) lol.
take care pawel. and thanks for everything.
ciao!
AP4.0 BlueTooth Stack
It's sad to see you go, but it has been a long and fun ride. THe crowning glory for the team has been the release of AP4, despite all the troubles we've had with it. Michy is doing a stellar job in keeping our appetite's whet with his neverending ROM factory. I do have one final request if I may. The only thing that is keeping me from usin Michy's ROMs (or others for that matter) is the instability of the Bluetooth Stack. This was one area that AP Team hit on the head with AP4 Plat. Please, provide some guidance to Michy on the issue.
On a personal note, I may be following you to the Touch HD crowd when it does become avaiable.
Thank you for your great roms, wish you well and enjoy your HD.
still find AP dual 3.0 fantastic though now may be a little behind.
Your great contribution to this forum will never be forgotton!
Before switching to MichY's roms, I have been faithfully using your roms starting from PK 2 to AP4 for a very long period of time. All those roms ran fast and stable. Everyone of this forum will have the same saying as mine that "Your great contributions to this forum will never be forgotton!"
Hi there PK.
It has been a real slice working with you on the Athena project.We accomplished alot with it, and I am proud to be able to say that I was a part of it. I am currently helping Michy with his roms and still love my Athena.
Good luck with your new projects, and maybe we will work together again one day.
P.S. If you still have your Athena for sale, hit me up on messenger and we can talk about it. I wouldn't mind getting a second one....LOL
Later............... Ron
Ah well, it had to happen, what with all the sexy stuff HTC lately came up with.
Thank you and all the Athena Project Team for your hard work and dedication. I think it's safe to say that among all ROM cooks for the Athena, you guys were the Top Guns and actually MADE the Athena a great and, at last, really FULL-FEATURED PDA-Phone, revealing its true potential. AP ROM evolutions will be sorely missed for those among us who have no plan to change their beloved brick any time soon.
Small wondering on my part: do you favor the HD, as compared to the Raphael, solely because of its screen resolution, or is there something else ? Because I myself am starting to think about which one I'd go for "if I had the opportunity", and I was thinking that a built-in hardware keyboard would probably be more useful than the VGA-WVGA resolution gap...
Thanks for your answer, and once again, for everything !
And have fun with your next elite device, and see you then and there, maybe !
HeartOfDarkness said:
Ah well, it had to happen, what with all the sexy stuff HTC lately came up with.
Thank you and all the Athena Project Team for your hard work and dedication. I think it's safe to say that among all ROM cooks for the Athena, you guys were the Top Guns and actually MADE the Athena a great and, at last, really FULL-FEATURED PDA-Phone, revealing its true potential. AP ROM evolutions will be sorely missed for those among us who have no plan to change their beloved brick any time soon.
Small wondering on my part: do you favor the HD, as compared to the Raphael, solely because of its screen resolution, or is there something else ? Because I myself am starting to think about which one I'd go for "if I had the opportunity", and I was thinking that a built-in hardware keyboard would probably be more useful than the VGA-WVGA resolution gap...
Thanks for your answer, and once again, for everything !
And have fun with your next elite device, and see you then and there, maybe !
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hd is closest to the athena so thats why. the screen is 3.8 and im going no smaller than the 3.5 in i have on my iphone. i love large screens then theres the 3.5 mm jack the hd has. i use the aux port in my car to listen to music from my iphone and used to from my athena. also the hd has a 5mp camera. with mp the sensor will be decent and bc of the resolution of the pics, most of them will look great on my laptop etc.. also about the keyboard... i been using on screen boards since i got my athena so im used to them and dont miss a hardware keyboard. specially with the smart keyboard on the iphone. wvga will just mean better showing of videos, better web browsing expirence etc..
Heh, thank you for your thourough answer, PK. And well, lol, you DID convince me, too. But since I'm a complicated bast*rd, I now am hesitating between the HD and Sony Ericsson XPeria X1...
But a WinMo without PK cooking ROMs ? Hard to imagine...
Hope you'll have lots of fun with your next device, and hope to try out your future cookies.
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Heh, thank you for your thourough answer, PK. And well, lol, you DID convince me, too. But since I'm a complicated bast*rd, I now am hesitating between the HD and Sony Ericsson XPeria X1...
But a WinMo without PK cooking ROMs ? Hard to imagine...
Hope you'll have lots of fun with your next device, and hope to try out your future cookies.
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i have a friend who has a x1 already(bengalboy, maybe u heard of him?). from what i hear SE is still developing the software for it along with htc. hardware though is pretty final but no final software from what i know. i wouldn't expect it until 09 specially if u want usa 3g. the hd i will try to get and see if there is usa 3g hidden within. if not i'll sell it and wait for whats coming out afterwords and get that.
YEA BABY!!!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=442179
Some things in life are just too good to allow it to fade away:
Pink Floyd
The Rolling Stones
The Who
Athena Project
Need I say more?
I have to say that the rest of the guy's on the Touch Dual board really suck.
All these wanabee rom cookers and beta tester abusers need to be shot.
DON'T POST UNTIL IT WORKS, OR SAY IT IS JUST AN BETA WHEN IT ISN'T!
RESPECT THE PEOPLE ON THIS BOARD!! ALSO TESTERS!
Wasted a lot of time on these defective rom's.
monx® you suck for not supporting use here!
No wonder everybody deserts WinMo in favor of the iphone! I hope you developers choke in your abuse, you are the ones that kiled windows mobile.
Bardok said:
I have to say that the rest of the guy's on the Touch Dual board really suck.
All these wanabee rom cookers and beta tester abusers need to be shot.
DON'T POST UNTIL IT WORKS, OR SAY IT IS JUST AN BETA WHEN IT ISN'T!
RESPECT THE PEOPLE ON THIS BOARD!! ALSO TESTERS!
Wasted a lot of time on these defective rom's.
monx® you suck for not supporting use here!
No wonder everybody deserts WinMo in favor of the iphone! I hope you developers choke in your abuse, you are the ones that kiled windows mobile.
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Hi Bardok, I'm not very happy you wanted me to be shot, I made a couple of roms an as far as I can remember I didn't get any feedback from you.
So if you have guts try my rom or leave the forum and go playing with your Iphone.
Hope you make the right choice.
Regards and have fun.
Rataplan said:
Hi Bardok, I'm not very happy you wanted me to be shot, I made a couple of roms an as far as I can remember I didn't get any feedback from you.
So if you have guts try my rom or leave the forum and go playing with your Iphone.
Hope you make the right choice.
Regards and have fun.
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lol how cheeky are some people!! 5 posts since joining in 2009 and the nerve to start demanding people be shot.
Bardok said:
I have to say that the rest of the guy's on the Touch Dual board really suck.
All these wanabee rom cookers and beta tester abusers need to be shot.
DON'T POST UNTIL IT WORKS, OR SAY IT IS JUST AN BETA WHEN IT ISN'T!
RESPECT THE PEOPLE ON THIS BOARD!! ALSO TESTERS!
Wasted a lot of time on these defective rom's.
monx® you suck for not supporting use here!
No wonder everybody deserts WinMo in favor of the iphone! I hope you developers choke in your abuse, you are the ones that kiled windows mobile.
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I think i found your dummy over by the door.
Bardok said:
I have to say that the rest of the guy's on the Touch Dual board really suck.
All these wanabee rom cookers and beta tester abusers need to be shot.
DON'T POST UNTIL IT WORKS, OR SAY IT IS JUST AN BETA WHEN IT ISN'T!
RESPECT THE PEOPLE ON THIS BOARD!! ALSO TESTERS!
Wasted a lot of time on these defective rom's.
monx® you suck for not supporting use here!
No wonder everybody deserts WinMo in favor of the iphone! I hope you developers choke in your abuse, you are the ones that kiled windows mobile.
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Total disagree.... Ive not seen any roms make by you..instead of running off make one and see if you can do better..
Ive tryed and its hard but with the help of this forum im getting there...
i have the up most respect to all the cookers out there weather its for the touch dual or the g1 (G1 died but the touch dual is better)
To take time out of there lifes to make my phone a little bit better Thank you all.
A
Bardok said:
I have to say that the rest of the guy's on the Touch Dual board really suck.
All these wanabee rom cookers and beta tester abusers need to be shot.
DON'T POST UNTIL IT WORKS, OR SAY IT IS JUST AN BETA WHEN IT ISN'T!
RESPECT THE PEOPLE ON THIS BOARD!! ALSO TESTERS!
Wasted a lot of time on these defective rom's.
monx® you suck for not supporting use here!
No wonder everybody deserts WinMo in favor of the iphone! I hope you developers choke in your abuse, you are the ones that kiled windows mobile.
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For update your iphone, you need to paid.
Here, they are old phone running first in winmo5 and now in winmo6.5.3 (why not in winmo7) And all for "FREE" (donation is better)
Thanks For ALL XDA Dev
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Wasted a lot of time
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Yeah, me 2! But isn't that what it's all about here? If we wanted just a phone to, well, make phone calls and stuff like that we would probably all be better off using some stock phone.
Most people here develop/flash/test/play for fun, because they are bored and because they can, after all the forums name has a 'developer' in it, not a 'user'. So if you expected some kind of 24/7 tech support here, well that is the wrong forum here, sorry. This also isn't supposed as a free 'make my phone flashy, shiny and new' service. Sure it's fun to check out some new stuff on your old touch dual, but to be honest, if you expect a release from one of our (very able) cooks, where everything works at first shot, well, the guys at htc are not that good either. If you dislike winmo, go buy yourself another toy, but don't waste everyones time here flaming around.
Bye bye
I don't think he isn't that wrong at all. A ROM needs to work, period.
It's the core of you device where all your other stuff runs on. Most of us use our device trough the day, not just in emulators.
Its very important that it works before you roll it out to the public. If you want beta testers, then say so and don't just drop it on the users and leave.
People will not come back! And a lot of new users don't know what the forum is about. but they are WM users.
@ mblaster: I am here too, I am not bored at all.
Sure the forums says 'Developers' and not 'Tinker-bells', but most of the developers here are 'Real Pro's', they develop for the real world, not just to tinker of boredom. They have an plan, and make great thing that works. You will find there stuff on new released devices all over, including the iPhone!
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I say this again, a ROM is the core of your device where other software runs in/on.
Its not an piece of software like an games you just install.
ROM development is a lot of work, its not just switching some graphics and putting in some already-applications an not care about the rest. It is an art and an profession, and real cook is an master of devices
I think what Bardof means is that the quality-of-service needs to go up again, not the volume of ROM's, even on the new devices.
An ROM that doesn't work right, gives a bad taste to the Windows Mobile platform. We all know the effects..
I love this forum and WM, I have been in and out sinds the release of the MDA, it think needs to grow in quality, not shrink.
Where is the poll option "Complete Disagree!" ???
ebsbow said:
I don't think he isn't that wrong at all. A ROM needs to work, period.
It's the core of you device where all your other stuff runs on. Most of us use our device trough the day, not just in emulators.
Its very important that it works before you roll it out to the public. If you want beta testers, then say so and don't just drop it on the users and leave.
People will not come back! And a lot of new users don't know what the forum is about. but they are WM users.
@ mblaster: I am here too, I am not bored at all.
Sure the forums says 'Developers' and not 'Tinker-bells', but most of the developers here are 'Real Pro's', they develop for the real world, not just to tinker of boredom. They have an plan, and make great thing that works. You will find there stuff on new released devices all over, including the iPhone!
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I say this again, a ROM is the core of your device where other software runs in/on.
Its not an piece of software like an games you just install.
ROM development is a lot of work, its not just switching some graphics and putting in some already-applications an not care about the rest. It is an art and an profession, and real cook is an master of devices
I think what Bardof means is that the quality-of-service needs to go up again, not the volume of ROM's, even on the new devices.
An ROM that doesn't work right, gives a bad taste to the Windows Mobile platform. We all know the effects..
I love this forum and WM, I have been in and out sinds the release of the MDA, it think needs to grow in quality, not shrink.
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I agree with the most of what you are saying. I haven't been replying on most of the posts on this forum but I've been reading a lot and testing a lot of ROMS, and it's a shame that only few of them work OK. Always need to install this and that CAB to get your phone working.
But....I know that cooking a ROM isn't that easy and it can take a lot of work and many of the good cookers don't get the respect they should, or help.
Sir owain94,
No doubt you gave us users a better experience with our mini pros. I, as a user of the custom roms you've developed, respects whichever decisions you'll have to do. I may not know what's happening, but sorry for the all the pressures you may have taken from us regarding these updates.
Proud user of your modified ROMS.
fictionworld said:
Sir owain94,
No doubt you gave us users a better experience with our mini pros. I, as a user of the custom roms you've developed, respects whichever decisions you'll have to do. I may not know what's happening, but sorry for the all the pressures you may have taken from us regarding these updates.
Proud user of your modified ROMS.
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I totally agree with you, Owain's roms are just awesome. Please don't go, slade and you are the best minipro's developers on this board !
Owain has made some great custom ROM's and people should chill out a bit more with developers they ain't getting paid for this it's just there hobby if a bug a annoying the hell out of you learn how to fix it or be patient it will get fixed eventually.
Owain has been working on mini ROMs for a while now he has some new phones maybe he should start working on them if his heart isn't in the mini pro any more.
Owain whatever your choice your a ****ing good developer and thanks for all the work you have put in since I got my phone a couple months ago I waited patiently for your new ROMs to come out to test.
Take care
Giro
giro3000 said:
Owain has made some great custom ROM's and people should chill out a bit more with developers they ain't getting paid for this it's just there hobby if a bug a annoying the hell out of you learn how to fix it or be patient it will get fixed eventually.
Owain has been working on mini ROMs for a while now he has some new phones maybe he should start working on them if his heart isn't in the mini pro any more.
Owain whatever your choice your a ****ing good developer and thanks for all the work you have put in since I got my phone a couple months ago I waited patiently for your new ROMs to come out to test.
Take care
Giro
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Totally agree no use nag the devs they'll fix bugs and new stuff as soon as they can anyway.
[Q] What can we do get some more variety of roms & devs especially from original HOX?
Was just wondering if there's anything we can do to get some more dev's over to our HOX+ forum? Not that I don't appreciate the work that's already being done by current dev's.
i agree...especially to get some new roms our for AT&T models as well. im willing to help the devs in any way possible if itll get some fresh content out
This depends on what you are looking for and the devs ability to get a phone. The big AT&T issues is the TEGRA processor in the + versus the qualcom in the original.
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a dev won't build a Rom for a device they don't have in most case's bud
Theres not many x+ owners in general so a small dev community is expected
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monkboy24 said:
a dev won't build a Rom for a device they don't have in most case's bud
Theres not many x+ owners in general so a small dev community is expected
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Well that sucks since we paid a lot of money for a very high end phone and the phone only came out in europe in november so technically its still a VERY NEW phone yet it seems like the development community is for such a new and high end phone REALLY small... I expected a large dev community for such a high end expensive phone ... what a disappointed... especially when it comes to looking at the ORIGINAL development thread that's suppose to have aosp based roms and yet all i see is multiple roms being discontinued e.g. aokp 4.1 and miui rom... if things carry on the way there are and we keep loosing more devs than we receive the development community for this device will be virtually non existant ...
we need to do something about it... get some more devs from the Original One X thread over to the one x+ maybe chip in all together to get a popular well recognised dev over at our thread the way people did it for the viper x rom developers.... what you guys think?
AOKP 4.1 and CM10 got discontinued because of work being continued on CM10.1 and AOKP 4.2! we HAVE LIVES too, the amount of PM's i have gotten this week just because i went on a 4-5day holiday was horrendous! Either step up to the mark, help the dev's, or shut up!
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Also I just re-read what you said, seems you under value myself and max who have done a TON of work for this device!! You are just ungrateful! Quality over quantity every time
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Just to echo what Lloir said, if you think things could be done a certain way or at a faster pace........you could always roll up your sleeves and build it yourself!
Being on a number of devices and around this kind of thing for a while, I can tell you that if you keep on pushing and pissing off people like Lloir....you won't have him for too long!
It ain't nothing for someone like him to put his device on swappa or something and go develop for a device where the users are not as ungrateful as they seem to be here.
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djsynth said:
Well that sucks since we paid a lot of money for a very high end phone and the phone only came out in europe in november so technically its still a VERY NEW phone yet it seems like the development community is for such a new and high end phone REALLY small... I expected a large dev community for such a high end expensive phone ... what a disappointed... especially when it comes to looking at the ORIGINAL development thread that's suppose to have aosp based roms and yet all i see is multiple roms being discontinued e.g. aokp 4.1 and miui rom... if things carry on the way there are and we keep loosing more devs than we receive the development community for this device will be virtually non existant ...
we need to do something about it... get some more devs from the Original One X thread over to the one x+ maybe chip in all together to get a popular well recognised dev over at our thread the way people did it for the viper x rom developers.... what you guys think?
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Here are my thoughts:
I think we have two of the *best* android developers in the XDA community (Lloir and Maxwen) developing for our device. The AT&T Hox+ has a not so friendly Tegra processor when it comes to development. Not sure if you have flashed the CM 10.1 ROM that Lloir and Maxwen have produced but it is rock solid for a "WIP" ROM. Something you very seldom see for a first release. Personally I am extremely thankful for the efforts these 2 guys give towards our device. Thanks Lloir! and thanks Maxwen for your kernel work.
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Oh my God, all i was trying to say was that it would be nice to have a bit more variety in our Dev community, this thread i created because i wanted to find out if there was anything we the community could do to increase our Dev community e.g. Get the community all donate so more devs could buy a one x+ etc... And in the first post i did actually wrote that i am grateful to current devs... Lloir you have seriously mis understood my comment! Words can not express how grateful i am to you doing so much work for our device and not just you but all the devs... As for the statement of roms being discontinued, i didn't know the reason and I'm sorry ... I really am. Please don't think that I'm an unapreciative person because that couldn't be further from the truth
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at first i must say i really believe he didn't want to seem ungrateful just like many other, but i think this is a problem, that is to be observed in many subforums of xda.
i guess this is mostly an iussue of missunderstanding what this forum really is.
in first place this is not somewhere to find lots of roms and tweaks for your exact device.
it's a place for development and sharing of it's results and we as users should do our best to contribute to the community as much as we can.
be it testing and giving feedback or for everyone who really is interested in extending the amount of choices: learn to get it done by yourself.
start with small steps like first java programms, simple apps for your device, theming and porting simple mods.
try to compile some kernels from git and maybe port an aosp based rom to this device.
learn how everything works, create by yourself, port, etc and share it.
and if you really don't know how to be helpful in any other way... just hit the thanks button and donate a little bit for something the devs have worked in their spare time.
Hi,dont understand the situation about developing for our Rosy - why Juanan dont post here his ROM´s directly himself?I want support this guy or other developers too,to get more ROMs or maybe better one of them very stable
I know,we dont have 8.1 source code for Rosy yet ,so its difficult to port or develop time is needed and time is money ...
yeah it would be awesome and i would donate if i could but right now i'm very broke and can't do that but atleast i can support with words because we really need developers to help on our redmi 5 roms and especially juanan who would be great if he directly would post and help us with bug fixes of the treble roms and other roms since he is a really great developer
I will agree ... he is a very good person and needs help
i handle juanans roms on xda, since we spoke and he sayd that xda is too much for him, with developing and his life i donated to juanan too , so everyone feel free to do the same, since everytime i send him money he was very eager to do more on developing,.. and juanan is a good person too .
Dont understand why or what is hard for him to post his ROMs on XDA too if he is posting it on Telegram /which I find more messy if You want find something from past - everyone there want say something .../ its shame if his hard work is getting lost there,XDA has bigger crowd than Telegram group with around 950 R5 owners
If You spoke with him,tell him that some of us,wants to know how to donate him
thread closed,
Soliciting donations is not allowed. If members decided to donate it should only be because they like the work of the developer and not in search of a new device.
Thank you for your understanding.
Wolf