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Hey guys,
So I have been playing around with the camera on my Z Ultra and I wanted to share a few things with you.
1. DO NOT use Superior Auto at all!!
It destroys pretty much every photo and has too much noise and no sharpness. It's just shockingly bad.
2. Always use normal shooting mode.
3. Become comfortable adjusting settings and actually getting to know the camera so you know when to use appropriate ISO etc.
4. Adjust ISO yourself and keep it at 400 or below. Use in combination with HDR for some very pleasing results.
Those are the 4 most important tips I think. Never ever ever use superior auto. The results with normal mode are very crisp and have lots of sharpness and contrast.
Overall the camera I believe is better than the Xperia Z. I own both and with the right settings, the Z Ultras images appear sharper.
I'll post a few examples.
Thanks and how are you all liking the camera so far?
Sent from my Sony Xperia Z Ultra
Here are a few examples.
1 taking with Superior Auto. The other taking with Normal mode on ISO 100.
Be sure to zoom.in on the bottle. You can see so much noise on the photo taking with Superior Auto.
Hopefully the results speak for themselves
If you want other photos I'll be happy to provide them.
Sent from my Sony Xperia Z Ultra
Way to much red in the photos taken with Superior Auto. Hopefully Sony will fix this in the next update. Btw, do you have the old Sony UI or the new one? (Old has a dark settings menu, while the new one is white)
I have the Old UI with the Bravia Engine 2.
New UI should be released in about a months time. Hopefully sooner
When are you buying your Ultra?
Sent from my Sony Xperia Z Ultra
ScottishSwan said:
I have the Old UI with the Bravia Engine 2.
New UI should be released in about a months time. Hopefully sooner
When are you buying your Ultra?
Sent from my Sony Xperia Z Ultra
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I'm buying it as soon as it hits the stores in Norway, which i believe is in the first week of september(?), like the rest of Europe.
Unless a different beast emerges from the depths of hell somewhere, that is (which i highly doubt, so ZU it is.)
Is it not the last week of September it gets released in Europe?
Its funny right now, I am slowly becoming to accept the Z Ultras size as normal and the 6.4" display as normal.
Even when I pick up a 5" device now, it feels so tiny!! Haha
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According to news sources, the release date for europe is september 6th.
I had the same experience when i got my Note. I came from the Desire HD with a 4.3" display, so the Note's size was ridiculous at that time, and i remember laughing my ass of when i unboxed it! Now? Not big at all. It's the same thing with the iPhone. I had the first gen. from the states and a 3GS, and they were really big at the time, but i just laugh at its tiny body now
When do you think phones will stop growing? I imagine 7" with almost no bezels at all will be the limit.
Unboxing my Ultra though, I did laugh when I seen it and my first day carrying it to work etc, quite a surprise haha.
Me personally I love big phones though, can never understand people who say they don't want anything bigger than 4.5 - 4.7 inches.
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Good question, and i have no idea, but i think we are near the limit now. IF the OEM's are planning on something even bigger, then i guess they'll have to make them without any bezels. That would be awesome and i guess a little science fiction looking
Something like this:
ScottishSwan said:
Is it not the last week of September it gets released in Europe?
Its funny right now, I am slowly becoming to accept the Z Ultras size as normal and the 6.4" display as normal.
Even when I pick up a 5" device now, it feels so tiny!! Haha
Sent from my Sony Xperia Z Ultra
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I agree. I love big devices and my Xperia Z feels really tiny in comparison but one thing is for sure: I think the Ultra is the biggest size that a phablet can have and still being pocketable.
It fits my pockets but I notice that I can't carry a bigger device in them. The future development could be smaller bezels and therefore perhaps a 6,8 and perhaps even a 7 inch screen. I would even guess that the small tablets like the Nexus 7 will be replaced by phablets with the same screen size but smaller body (Ultra size).
So the future market will offer phablets up to 7 inch, then tablets starting at 8 inches and upwards followed by dockable "tablets" with screens of 12 inches and bigger. The small tablet is going to become a phablet - adding smaller bezels and a smaller body to the existing 7 inch screen and putting a dialer on is a straight forward development, especially when the Nexus 7 has connectivity to mobile networks already and the old Galaxy Tab could make calls.
I wouldn't be surprised if the 2014 edition of the Nexus 7 will be a phablet and that Sony are creating a partly new market with the Z Ultra.
Coming from iPhone 5, the UZ produces astoundingly bad overprocessed images. What's coming off the sensor is actually pretty good as you can see if you shoot in burst mode since that is the only setting that doesn't add a massive sharpness filter to the output. All other modes are crap. Massive over sharpening and then saving at what has to be 50% jpg quality. I don't get the mentality of putting in user defined ISO settings but forcing sharpening and jpg quality.
Taco Jackson said:
Coming from iPhone 5, the UZ produces astoundingly bad overprocessed images. What's coming off the sensor is actually pretty good as you can see if you shoot in burst mode since that is the only setting that doesn't add a massive sharpness filter to the output. All other modes are crap. Massive over sharpening and then saving at what has to be 50% jpg quality. I don't get the mentality of putting in user defined ISO settings but forcing sharpening and jpg quality.
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I do not have these issues. The only problems i have is when the phone is using Superior Auto.
Any other mode is perfectly sharp and noise free. I have also compared it to my iPhone 5 and the photos are very very comparable when you get the settings right.
Please tell me the about camera settings for best output of images in Xperia Z Ultra .. i donno how to configure my z ultra for best output images .. so please any one help abt best camera settings
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Please tell me the about camera settings for best output of images in Xperia Z Ultra .. i donno how to configure my z ultra for best output images .. so please any one help abt best camera settings
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sounds like u need a crash course on photography instead.
Xperia Z Ultra said:
Please tell me the about camera settings for best output of images in Xperia Z Ultra .. i donno how to configure my z ultra for best output images .. so please any one help abt best camera settings
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1. Always set the camera to Normal mode.
2. Set the ISO at a maximum of 400 and not higher.
3. Use HDR on occasions where it might be needed.
On those settings you will get sharp images. Of course, you have to learn the camera a little yourself too.
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Please tell me the about camera settings for best output of images in Xperia Z Ultra .. i donno how to configure my z ultra for best output images .. so please any one help abt best camera settings
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Frankly, that's not how you learn stuff. What's wrong with just experimenting like normal people do?
Excuse Peppa pig, this was ISO 200, hdr with center focusing
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Looking good
What are your thoughts on the camera?
Sent from my Sony Xperia Z Ultra
Does it miss not having any kind of flash?
Super Chimp said:
Does it miss not having any kind of flash?
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For me personally, in the 10 days I have owned the Z Ultra I have not missed flash at all.
Sent from my Sony Xperia Z Ultra
Along with Lenovo Vibe Z2 Pro, but Lenovo have not so good display calibration and sound in headphones, also they have no oled display.
Display.
(hi-tech mail review)
Alpha
Delta E grayscale 1,35 (lower is better)
Delta E rgbcmy 2,74 (lower is better)
S5 LTE-A
Delta E grayscale 2,66
Delta E rgbcmy 2,57
S5 and S5 LTE-A display comparison
http://www.anandtech.com/show/8258/evaluating-samsungs-qhd-amoled-displays
gamut (closer to dark triangle is better)
Alpha
https://hi-tech.imgsmail.ru/hitech_...84x-/i/75/3b/a0a3bcfc8cf0a86e318cbad46151.jpg
S5 LTE-A
https://hi-tech.imgsmail.ru/hitech_...84x-/i/0c/9b/0c44b4166acd129f839a2d121f27.jpg
S5
https://hi-tech.imgsmail.ru/hitech_...84x-/i/e3/77/20b3f02aa0736a44858e20aca287.jpg
iPhone 6 (they have blur in 60fps video and menu, worse viewing angles, worse contrast, worse black color because LCD display)
Delta E grayscale 6,69
Delta E rgbcmy 3,15
Z3 and Z3 compact have very very bad calibration
Z2 and Z2 compact have very bad calibration
also
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2742538
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2746766
http://www.ixbt.com/mobile/images/sony-xperia-z2/vs-pict.jpg
http://www.ixbt.com/mobile/images/sony-xperia-z2/vs-black-angle-alt.jpg
G3 have bad calibration
also
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2797810
http://anandtech.com/show/8169/the-lg-g3-review/2
http://www.ixbt.com/mobile/images/lg-g3/vs-black-angle-alt-l.jpg
http://www.ixbt.com/mobile/images/lg-g3/vs-pict-angle-l.jpg
http://www.ixbt.com/mobile/lg-g3.shtml#display-test
Camera.
Comparison with S5
http://4pda.ru/forum/index.php?showtopic=595296&view=findpost&p=33707616
http://4pda.ru/forum/index.php?showtopic=595296&view=findpost&p=33719410
http://4pda.ru/forum/index.php?showtopic=595296&view=findpost&p=33790691
http://4pda.ru/forum/index.php?showtopic=595296&view=findpost&p=33790691
S5 have rosines and oversaturation bug
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atqshKOP55c
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9m3SskIIvI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZXjByVLw7Y
In this thread comparison with iPhone 5s, Z3 compact and others sony sensor smartphones
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z2/general/white-balance-t2870875
Audio.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/8382/samsung-announces-exynos-5430-first-20nm-samsung-soc
http://www.samsung.com/global/busin...io_Subsystem_for_Samsung_Exynos_Processor.pdf
Well, this is just a mature post, Jesus!
Z3 and Z3 compact have very very bad calibration
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that's strange, because people say that z3 and z3 compact displays are gorgeous
progosu said:
that's strange, because people say that z3 and z3 compact displays are gorgeous
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What people? give me a link
just watch tests
http://forum.xda-developers.com/z3-compact/general/bad-calibration-t2887120
worse calibration ever
hey
Try to bend this phone.
I disagree, I had five minutes and alpha galaxy screen LG G3 gives you 3 laps ... and another thing, the price is totally abusive alpha ...
The screen/display on the Alpha is just a big disappointment! Jesus, that penile matrix on the 720p resolution really makes it blury and pixilated!
Damn you Samsung!! Why the hell didn't you give us a full HD option!?? Sigh.......
comparison with z3 compact
Photo
alpha
http://cdn.gsmarena.com/vv/reviewsimg/samsung-galaxy-alpha/review/camera/gsmarena_0001.jpg
z3 compact
http://cdn.gsmarena.com/vv/reviewsimg/sony-xperia-z3-compact/camera/gsmarena_001.jpg
alpha
http://cdn.gsmarena.com/vv/reviewsimg/samsung-galaxy-alpha/review/camera/gsmarena_004.jpg
z3 compact
http://cdn.gsmarena.com/vv/reviewsimg/sony-xperia-z3-compact/camera/gsmarena_016.jpg
http://www.mediafire.com/convkey/189f/cr44xqo6abt2wy3fg.jpg
Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OgN7fSbgxU
Audio quality in headphones
stereo crosstalk (higher is better)
alpha
-65.6
z3 compact
-45.1
Dynamic range (higher is better)
alpha
92.7
z3 compact
85.4
Noise level (higher is better)
alpha
-95.7
z3 compact
-85.4
when this come from sony fun,that should we 100% accepted
I'm not sure if I want to give up my Note 3 or S5 for the Alpha. Any thoughts out regarding hands on comparison between the three?
Hi, I've had this season many phones, including the LG G3, SAMSUNG GALAXY S5, HTC ONE M8 and IPHONE 5S ... until 2 days ago that I bought my new SONY XPERIA ULTRA Z, and say, I'm delighted.
The Lg g3 is pure lag, lag everywhere, either version ko which is, anyway, this is very poorly optimized emovil.
The samsung galaxy s5 is fine, but still does not bring me too, has good camera and good video recording but little more.
The htc one m8 is the more fluid cell phone that I have had, is already playing and the screen where you indicated you ... wonderful, and also good materials etc (which I sold for hobby)
The iphone 5s is a good mobile but small screen and limitations ... that if enough of losd best camera ... and very quickly the photo shoot.
Tired of being a mobile almost every week (yes, believe me), I saw a good deal on a store in my city, the ultra z sony xperia 4G at a great price, and the truth or what I thought ...
Well, the screen is a delight while not ips is tft but with very good contrast, complete fluency .... and now that I just happen to fly this GOOGLE EDITION, also to watch movies, surf, play etc is lovely.
Also now I have the ionplementacion in art, and goes even faster, if that came out just one year ago but is still top mobile practically, with 2 gigs of ram, big screen of 6.44 inches 1080p FULL HD, processor 800 to 2.2 SNAPDRAGON rendering and long life you have left, water resistant up to 128 cards supports gigs, the safest thing we ANDROID L, even the GOOGLE EDITION.
Abri this post to comment that I like it a lot the phone, I've also had the note 3 and really, it looked like toy beside ..
a hug and long life to the ULTRA Z !!
Congrats and welcome One small correction though, the Ultra has an IPS panel and not a TFT. It was the first Sony phone (as far as i know) to use an IPS panel. The Z1 on the other hand (which got released around the same time as the Ultra) has a TFT panel.
H. E. Pennypacker said:
Congrats and welcome One small correction though, the Ultra has an IPS panel and not a TFT. It was the first Sony phone (as far as i know) to use an IPS panel. The Z1 on the other hand (which got released around the same time as the Ultra) has a TFT panel.
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I Always thought it looked a lot better but I stayed with tft doubt, that just solved me a hug and thanks !!:good:
H. E. Pennypacker said:
Congrats and welcome One small correction though, the Ultra has an IPS panel and not a TFT. It was the first Sony phone (as far as i know) to use an IPS panel. The Z1 on the other hand (which got released around the same time as the Ultra) has a TFT panel.
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Can not see if the internet ips haha, pass me a link if you can please
kevin_23 said:
Can not see if the internet ips haha, pass me a link if you can please
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Well, to make it a little more technical, TFT LCD - or "Thin-film-transistor liquid-crystal display" is what every LCD display out there is. IPS, or "In-Plane Switching" is still TFT, but improved in several areas (like viewing angles and contrast). The Z1 uses a TN VA-TFT LCD panel (which is the standard and older TFT technology with poor(er) viewing angles, while the Z Ultra, Z2, Z3 etc. uses AH-IPS TFT LCD panels which solves the viewing angle issues and also contrast. Most places will simply refer the panel as a TFT LCD, but devs and other more in-depth articles (which hilariously i can't seem to find now) have confirmed that the Z Ultra does indeed have an IPS panel.
There are to different types of panels used in the Z Ultra. A Sharp panel, which looks to be the best one (contrast is a little better) and an AUO panel. You can check your own display by using ADB or running a command directly from a mobile terminal on your Ultra. I do however (again) not remember the command, but i guess someone else around here will have it.
H. E. Pennypacker said:
Well, to make it a little more technical, TFT LCD - or "Thin-film-transistor liquid-crystal display" is what every LCD display out there is. IPS, or "In-Plane Switching" is still TFT, but improved in several areas (like viewing angles and contrast). The Z1 uses a TN VA-TFT LCD panel (which is the standard and older TFT technology with poor(er) viewing angles, while the Z Ultra, Z2, Z3 etc. uses AH-IPS TFT LCD panels which solves the viewing angle issues and also contrast. Most places will simply refer the panel as a TFT LCD, but devs and other more in-depth articles (which hilariously i can't seem to find now) have confirmed that the Z Ultra does indeed have an IPS panel.
There are to different types of panels used in the Z Ultra. A Sharp panel, which looks to be the best one (contrast is a little better) and an AUO panel. You can check your own display by using ADB or running a command directly from a mobile terminal on your Ultra. I do however (again) not remember the command, but i guess someone else around here will have it.
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thank you very much for the explanation !!, actually my screen seems very good, and I've not had a few phones, a hug !![emoji2]
I recently got a Google Play edition and it's been refreshing. My Mega (6.3) was killing me from all sorts of things, So glad to not have to deal with Samsung anymore. Also get to finally use LTE too.
Hi. I would like to know if its worth it the extra cost to buy a z3
For those who owned both devices
How does the speaker quality compare?
Is it true that z2 has better screen with deeper blacks
How does battery life compare?
Z2 is better than z3
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Z2 is better than z3
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Why would you say that?
i had xperia Z,Z2,Z5 and now Xz all i can say is that for me the Z2 model was the best phone from Sony since z3 everything is going more or less downwards i dont like plain design of z3...Z2 has beter lookin speakear grills and also that led notification light is integrated in the speaker grill and it looks nice...as for the perfomance they are both almost same cuz they share same proc but Z3 has overclocked one...so about the screen and speakers ,ill say that z3 has better speakers and screen i know that cuz i tested with my friends z3 back then when i had z2...screen is brighter on z3 and also speakers have little bit punchier bass but the diferences are very small. cheers
Z2 outrun Z3 in several aspects,
Better battery;
Lower cost for nearly the same SoC and hardware;
Original OMNI design;
better speaker;
etc...
For a more general and objective comparasion please refer HERE.
Today Sony announced Xperia XZ2 and XZ2 compact at the MWC 2018 so I wanted to have a look at X compact users' opinions (like myself) and see if we are deciding to let XC go or not yet...
So here's my opinion :
In the beginning when I the leaked photos I didnt like the thickness of the XZ2c but now that I have seen the Hands-on videos Im becomin more intrested in buying it (Video here)
And my other reason is that the screen is now HDR 1080p and 5" so it means more colors and more usabality!
There's also a better camera and better front facin speakers.
Btw,
Dynamic vibrations are not available in Xz2 compact
And although it has dual front cameras, its only 5 mp!!!!
So if I buy it, it would be because of the new looks amd much much better gpu performance and of course HDR screen, otherwise, XC is doin a great job for me specially now that it has android Oreo...
Feel free to share your thoughts!
bye bye Sony
Very disappointed with Sony :crying:
Xz2 compact is not compact anymore. Thick (12mm), tall (135mm), no headphone jack, fingerprint reader on the back. What the f*ck is Sony doing?
The only fast compact device on the market is no more. Well, back to Samsung
NO, I'm really sad about this, but at least we have the XZ1 Compact to upgrade to, which seems like the best Compact they've ever made, basically updating SOC and better, matte, metal back/sides compared to the slippery, glossy sides we have on the X Compact...the lack of headphone jack and side fingerprint scanner on the XZ2's are really unfortunate changes imo
Kianush said:
Today Sony announced Xperia XZ2 and XZ2 compact at the MWC 2018 so I wanted to have a look at X compact users' opinions (like myself) and see if we are deciding to let XC go or not yet...
So here's my opinion :
In the beginning when I the leaked photos I didnt like the thickness of the XZ2c but now that I have seen the Hands-on videos Im becomin more intrested in buying it (Video here)
And my other reason is that the screen is now HDR 1080p and 5" so it means more colors and more usabality!
There's also a better camera and better front facin speakers.
Btw,
Dynamic vibrations are not available in Xz2 compact
And although it has dual front cameras, its only 5 mp!!!!
So if I buy it, it would be because of the new looks amd much much better gpu performance and of course HDR screen, otherwise, XC is doin a great job for me specially now that it has android Oreo...
Feel free to share your thoughts!
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5" screen is not compact. I was already pushing my limits when I started with Z1c, (127mm tall), 4 years ago. I only upgraded to Z3c and Xc because they haven't gotten any bigger. I won't do 135mm..
No.
No. No real innovations, but it's gotten bigger and lost features like head phone jack and fingerprint on the side. The camera has to be on par with Samsung and iPhone to even consider the XZ2.
Maybe XZ3 Compact they ll back to the road, is there any real one-handed phone that we can expect this year?
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Maybe XZ3 Compact they ll back to the road, is there any real one-handed phone that we can expect this year?
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Yeah, for me after a lot of reading i just think xz1 is not worth the cost, xz2 compact is like a new model phone. I am just going to wait for xz3 or any other compact version.
My next phone will probably not be from Sony. If I convert to a "normal" size it doesn't have to be Sony anymore.