As we all know vanilla marshmallow provides the feature to use a micro SD card AS system memory. But since i havent Found it on the mm beta update i was wondering if anyone did. Maybe it is missing due the fact that mm is still in beta. What do you think?
They will maybe add it in later beta versions or final, i don't know if they will
I'm also confused about this. The option to move apps to sd has been removed. You can set the sd card as default storage location and when I downloaded music from my nas my only option was a location I hadn't seen before: /storage/32FD-3596 which turned out to be the sd card.
I haven't looked for hidden folders so I'm not sure if apps are partly or wholly stored there but I doubt it as I only have 5.7gb free of 10.4gb.
It looks like the common internal/sd storage hasn't been implemented. If storage is integrated at some point however, surely this will make occasionally using the 2nd slot with a Sim card impossible as removing the sd card would break apps fully or partially stored there.
it seems to me that Huawei has not implemented MM "adoptable storage" functions
(a little explanation of "adoptable storage" can be found here http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2015/10/android-6-0-marshmallow-thoroughly-reviewed/7/)
i can't find that option in the newer firmware for my honor 7
very sad
If they wont implement it they would spare the most valuable feature in mm .. If so id consider selling my h7 and get another phone.. Lets hope they will include it in the next build
Can anyone confirm moving apps to SD doesn't work?
Trekvogel said:
Can anyone confirm moving apps to SD doesn't work?
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#confirmed
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#confirmed
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So if I have under Android 5 apps moved to SD, they will be automatically moved to the device system partition again along with the Android M update?
Sounds either like a preparation step for a later upgrade including this new feature or like a limitation - does Android M still support apps to SD if the external storage isn't merges with the internal?
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Hey there guys...
To start with i have my S3 two days now and i absolutely love this phone...:')
But,after installing lots of games my internal memory has gone full and i can't download any data in-game because i have low storage space...
My external sd on the other hand is around 10gb free but when i try to move the data to the same folder on the external the data isn't identified by the game and it asks me to download again?
It has become really frustrating,it seems i can't do anything about it...
Any suggestions to try?
Cheers,George
As the system now uses unified storage all apps will remain on internal memory; moving the data alone to an external SD card will have no use without altering the application to look for that location for its data. i.e. in the GS2 you had a move to SD option since the phone was partitioned. With the S3 however this option is not there which means that when an application is downloaded all of its information needs to be stored on the internal storage. When the "Move to SD" option was selected within the S2 or prior phones, it informs the application that its new location is within x folder rather than the folder it was originally downloaded too. Since this option is no longer there then the application has no way of being told where its new location is.
Maybe move to SD could be an add-on with a mod/hack but I am not sure if this is possible. Maybe check with a developer?
Have you got a prior Android phone? Maybe install the application on to it; use the "Move to SD" option and see if that will allow it? It's just a suggestion; if you don't have a different Android phone I can try it for you.
Edit: Just tried it; the phone itself doesn't even check for applications stored within an external SD. Sorry man - the only way around it would be a mod/custom/hack (if possible).
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As the system now uses unified storage all apps will remain on internal memory; moving the data alone to an external SD card will have no use without altering the application to look for that location for its data. i.e. in the GS2 you had a move to SD option since the phone was partitioned. With the S3 however this option is not there which means that when an application is downloaded all of its information needs to be stored on the internal storage. When the "Move to SD" option was selected within the S2 or prior phones, it informs the application that its new location is within x folder rather than the folder it was originally downloaded too. Since this option is no longer there then the application has no way of being told where its new location is.
Maybe move to SD could be an add-on with a mod/hack but I am not sure if this is possible. Maybe check with a developer?
Have you got a prior Android phone? Maybe install the application on to it; use the "Move to SD" option and see if that will allow it? It's just a suggestion; if you don't have a different Android phone I can try it for you.
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Thank's for the answer...
In my galaxy s 1 i had no problem having the games data on the sd card,i havent moved and application to the sd but i had the data on sd and everything worked great...now...i don't get it....:/
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Thank's for the answer...
In my galaxy s 1 i had no problem having the games data on the sd card,i havent moved and application to the sd but i had the data on sd and everything worked great...now...i don't get it....:/
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I did check for you; the S3 physically doesn't look for application data in the external SD (I edited original post after testing few things).. There probably are ways around it as mentioned but you would need to speak with developers for further insight.
If worst comes to worst application developers may have to implement a look in x location first, if no data found, look "here" in to their applications.
As the phone is unified storage you can store applications in the full ~12GB storage space (All the ones I have, have roughly 11.3GB after OS and all is on it) so have you used the phones storage itself for only applications; and the SD for media etc?
I am interested to know how you have managed to fill at least 11GB of space with applications; how many do you have? How is the performance of the phone with this many applications on it? Any lag navigating (I know there shouldn't be with quad core processor - but it's interesting to know if hundreds of applications cause lag between screen scrolling).
You can use an app called directory bind to link the game data on the SD to a mounting point on the internal SD. Search for it and you'll find it, not sure if I got it here or the play store.
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Yup, there's directory topic on forum, as well as working 'gl to sd' app in play store. It is not just for gameloft games.
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Thank you all guys!!
Well i filled it with lots of games that's why i don't have much space available!
No the phone is flying,it doesn't lag at all!
I use Dragon Ics rom and Siyah Kernel...no oc....
I'll try directory bind and post back soon!
To put applications on the sdcard, you could use symlinking (confirmed this works myself).
Install the application, then go to /data/app and move the apk file to your sdcard (/mnt/extSdCard) or inside a folder on your sdcard.
Then type ln -s /mnt/extSdCard/your-apk.apk /data/app/your-apk.apk
I am having issues with external SD cards. I have 16 and 32 gb cards and every 2-5 days they become corrupted/damaged/blank. I have to format them and copy my backup files over at least once per week. I have had no luck finding a good solution for the SD card problems. I notice that my SD card will randomly mount / media scan / antivirus SD card scan when I unlock my screen. I assume this is causing the problems. I want to leave my external SD card UNmounted until i want to use it, then i will manually mount it under settings. My problem is when i leave it unmounted, Android will automatically mount it later when my screen is off. How do i change this so that the external SD will ONLY mount when i manually mount it in settings?
Not sure. Sounds like you just need to leave the card out or maybe get rid of that antivirus
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the antivirus isn't the problem, randomly whenever the screen is turned on, the micro SD re-mounts (it somehow unmounted when the screen was off)... when it re-mounts Android automatically does a media scan and my AV scans it like it just connected... over time the SD card fails or becomes corrupted so I have to format. I'm looking for a way to DISABLE Android from automatically mounting an external micro SD... I assume people on this forum are knowledgeable on Android coding... disabling this function shouldn't be that hard...
Backup your micro sd. Wipe it clean. Make sure you format it with fat32 and not exfat. Put sd back in. Profit.
i have tried that several times.... perhaps i need to re-phrase the question....
Can someone please copy and paste the code within Android that automatically mounts an external SD card when it is inserted while the phone is on. Please also include the file name and directory. Thanks!
Well the problem is it's clearly either a hardware problem in the phone or that sd card. Wouldn't it be less of a pain to diagnose that and just try several other sd cards, then you wouldn't even have the issue anymore.
i met same problem here, how did you get this right?
I am in the same situation please provide a fix if you got it fixed
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I am in the same situation please provide a fix if you got it fixed
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What ROM are you on? Do you have this device? Some newer ROMs have the ability to control the media scanner running at boot, which likely was the cause for these older issues.
An example of a current ROM having this is ResurrectionRemix.
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What ROM are you on? Do you have this device? Some newer ROMs have the ability to control the media scanner running at boot, which likely was the cause for these older issues.
An example of a current ROM having this is ResurrectionRemix.
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Rom is stock Android 4.4.
Does 4.4 have that feature? I am Rooted.
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Rom is stock Android 4.4.
Does 4.4 have that feature? I am Rooted.
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Stock will not have it, you will need to install a custom ROM that includes the Media Scanner setting (there are KK ROMs that support it). Look around in the Development forum and see if one is to your liking; if the ROM has the feature they will often include it in the first post. The Ported forum also has much to choose, including the ROM I noted in my reply above yours.
Hi,
I've just updated to Lollipop and had been under the impression that I would now be able to move some game files to my 64gb micro sd card.
However, while the app manager seems to have a 'Move to SD' button, all that seems to do is move files within the internal storage of the device, rather than moving them to the actual SD card. When using ES Explorer, rather than the file manager that comes with the tablet, it has two 'SD cards' one of which is actually part of the 12gb of internal storage.
Is there a way now, without rooting, of moving files to the 'real' sd card rather than this fake virtual one? What is it with the whole fake SD card anyway? What a crap and deliberately misleading way to do it.
Cheers.
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Hi,
I've just updated to Lollipop and had been under the impression that I would now be able to move some game files to my 64gb micro sd card.
However, while the app manager seems to have a 'Move to SD' button, all that seems to do is move files within the internal storage of the device, rather than moving them to the actual SD card. When using ES Explorer, rather than the file manager that comes with the tablet, it has two 'SD cards' one of which is actually part of the 12gb of internal storage.
Is there a way now, without rooting, of moving files to the 'real' sd card rather than this fake virtual one? What is it with the whole fake SD card anyway? What a crap and deliberately misleading way to do it.
Cheers.
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I updated my stock z2 tablet to lollipop yesterday, happy as hell for the return of app2sd, and sadly a few moments after installing the first few apps I noticed precisely this. All of the apps I moved to the sd card do not transfer to the external sd, but to the internal "fake" sd partition (not visible on the file explorer that comes in the device, but es explorer shows it). I mean, this totally defeats the purpose, I still can't use my 32gb card to store app data after all, and everything is where it was on kit kat: inside the limited internal storage (16gb wifi version here). Why on earth do I get the option to transfer to sd if stuff isnt rly being transfered to sd?
I've spent the entire afternoon looking for ppl with similar issues, and even though I found a few, I haven't found a solution or an answer anywhere. Does this happen to only a few ppl? Or is it that most ppl just root/unlock/flash roms and nvr notice this?
Is there anyone around here that can shed some light over this? Goin crazy here :/
There is a new update from Sony which fixes that.
A. 1.28 for 521 or A. 1.30 for 511.
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There is a new update from Sony which fixes that.
A. 1.28 for 521 or A. 1.30 for 511.
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Now, that I didnt know, and it is awesome news. Thx for the info!
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There is a new update from Sony which fixes that.
A. 1.28 for 521 or A. 1.30 for 511.
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Only just seen this, but it does indeed seem to work properly having tested just now after the update. Thanks for the info
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There is a new update from Sony which fixes that.
A. 1.28 for 521 or A. 1.30 for 511.
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Where did you find this A.1.30 build ?
I'm under A.1.28 rooted and still can't move entire app to SD
Slight bump - but I'm also still afflicted by this, despite my 521 being on 1.28. Can anyone confirm if it should be necessary to factory reset before being able to correctly push apps to the SD card? I use my tablet mainly for games and streaming, so I have a pretty much useless 64GB SD card which is 99.9% empty even after "moving" all my apps and games to the "SD card".
I certainly didn't have to factory reset mine before I could move to SD - it just worked after doing the latest update.
OK, thanks! Looks like something's gone wrong for me then as I still can't do this.
According to Solid Explorer, I've got the following symlinks in my device root:
/sdcard (-> /storage/emulated/legacy)
/sdcard1 (-> /storage/sdcard1)
In /storage, I have a symlink called sdcard0 which also links to /storage/emulated/legacy.
/storage/emulated/legacy, of course, just takes me to my "internal memory". So when an app gets "moved to SD" it ends up staying exactly where it was.
Is there any way to fix this? Can I remove the symlinks safely, or recreate them pointing to the correct place?
I know Android M has a new way to connect external sd cards, you can convert the external memory into internal memory but this is not what I need. The alternative is that only some directories are write-enabled on the sdcard but this in turn is not enough.
Starting with Kitkat (also working on Lollipop) there was a hack allowing you to use an external sd as read/write storage.
This hack no longer seems to work with marshmallow, if you go searching for sdcard fix you'll find that this fix does not work on Marshmallow.
Are there already apps fixing this problem ( no problem if root access is required since my phone is rooted).
Android 6.0 isn't yet available for my Xperia Z3 Compact but when it becomes available I'd like to have a way to go around this problem.
If it doesn't yet exist do you know names of developers working an such a fix?
+1.
However, for me the problem is immediate: I have a rooted HTC One M8 with a 64GB external SD card that I've recently upgraded to Marshmallow. Like many of you, thanks to rooting I was able to work around Google's SD card handling changes introduced in 4.4 KitKat, and the same fix worked in 5.0.
But I'm having serious deja vu with 6.0, because it seems the behavior is back to being much like KitKat again: Apps can only write to their own private folder under /data on the SD card. But unlike KitKat, I've found no simple workaround like editing a system XML file.
Some apps like ES File Explorer have a special 'root mode' option that enables them to write to any folder of both internal and external storage. For other non-root apps, there is a convoluted workaround the first time the user tries to use the SD card where the user must authorize writing to any folder by selecting the root folder of the SD card from a folder tree. The permission seems to 'stick' after that, but I don't know if it survives a reboot?
So I'm also wondering if any bright devs are working on a more general root workaround like we had for KitKat, perhaps as an Xposed module? And in the meantime, does anyone know what's happening behind the scenes when an app uses the "choose the SD card root folder" solution? Where is that new permission being defined/stored?
Assuming the additional SD card write permission is indeed persistent (or could somehow be saved and restored after a reboot), could we manually add similar permission for other apps that don't include the solution? For example, the QuickPic gallery app does have it, so I can now move and rename images from any SD card folder. But the Dolphin browser doesn't, so when I try to download a file to the SD card, I can only choose the single Dolphin-owned folder. (This wasn't a problem in Lollipop - but Dolphin now gives me a helpful explanation blaming Google for the restrictions added in KitKat, even though I'm two major releases past KK...). Until/if Dolphin adds code similar to QuickPic, it would sure be great if I could manually add a similar permission. I've spent hours searching, but haven't discovered anything. So any ideas would be very welcome!
No response in months. Is this xposed module what you guys needed? Or have you found other workarounds?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed/modules/xposed-marshmallow-sd-fix-write-t3403263
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I know Android M has a new way to connect external sd cards, you can convert the external memory into internal memory but this is not what I need. The alternative is that only some directories are write-enabled on the sdcard but this in turn is not enough.
Starting with Kitkat (also working on Lollipop) there was a hack allowing you to use an external sd as read/write storage.
This hack no longer seems to work with marshmallow, if you go searching for sdcard fix you'll find that this fix does not work on Marshmallow.
Are there already apps fixing this problem ( no problem if root access is required since my phone is rooted).
Android 6.0 isn't yet available for my Xperia Z3 Compact but when it becomes available I'd like to have a way to go around this problem.
If it doesn't yet exist do you know names of developers working an such a fix?
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I've exactly the same problem! Has anybody got a solution?
There is a fix have a look at https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software/fix-extsd-fix-v1-0b-2016-01-18-t3296266
this fix works for marshmallow and nougat
I came across this link and tried it my self with a 200gb sdcard. My oh my im glad someone found this. Not my work nor do I take credit for it.
Modaco and paulobrien thank you
http://www.modaco.com/news/android/...e-adoptable-storage-on-your-s7-s7-edge-r1632/
Will this process effect ability to receive otas etc?
Not sure but it doesnt touch any of the software. It just expand the sdcard to the internal storage
Important comment by VoxLuna:
"This is a great find, except people need to be aware of the downsides to SD cards, at least*as a place for apps to reside.
If I'm understanding your writeup correctly,*this will probably*install all future apps to SD by default**And as you state, it*will always be slower than the internal memory -- on my G4, it's*something like 20MB/s on SD vs 50MB/s*on internal, so a LOT slower.**It's also going to stress your card*if you have a lot of caching or other intense activity going on (load balancing or not). *I have a rigorous backup system, but I don't need to tempt fate....
That being said, I DO want to have internal and external memory appear as a single*drive, while keeping apps in*/data/data instead of going*to any /storage. This*way, you can always find stuff, no matter where an app decides to store its files (camera apps, for example), as well as only having one filesystem you need to back up."
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I tried this with a 32gb card, but maps still told me I only had 18gb of available space when I tried to download some maps. I formatted the card and went back to the stock way.
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I think I read somewhere of partitioning the micro SD card and being able to have one partition as internal adoptable storage, and keep the other partition as normal SD card. So in theory if you did this on a 200gb card you'd have 100gb internal and 100gb external storage.
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I tried this with a 32gb card, but maps still told me I only had 18gb of available space when I tried to download some maps. I formatted the card and went back to the stock way.
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Had the exact same thing happen with my 64 gig card.
Adoptable storage has its pros and cons.
SD cards are incredibly slower than the UFS 2.0 speeds that Samsung uses internally.
Having both mix would actually hinder the performance rather than help.
I usually just move the apps that can be moved to the external SD card. Any app with widgets can't be used as widgets if they're on the ext SD card. However, using Android 6.0, it's a little more time consuming moving apps to the SD card. I prefer the way it was setup originally, go to settings, applications, scroll over to SD card and just click the button. If an app couldn't be moved, it wouldn't be listed.
I've only had my phone for a couple of days, and I haven't even had enough time to go through all the additional features. I have tested the waterproofing by filming a video while going down a waterslide. However, when filming a video, it shuts down the second it's under water. You can feel the phone vibrate for a second as soon as it touches the water. Somehow, the phone can detect when it comes in contact with water, which sucks because I wanted to try filming under water.
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before i used this hack, i only able to put 8 adult movies on private on phone storage. after this hack, i able to put 10 (so far) adult movies on private.
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before i used this hack, i only able to put 8 adult movies on private on phone storage. after this hack, i able to put 10 (so far) adult movies on private.
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Cool....
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i cant get this to work i've done exactly as it says get to the partition line in the steps and it goes to the $ pronpt but my sd is still portable storage instead of private, i did the new 599mb update tho . do ya think that may have affected it?
I tried this method, and nothing happens... when I type "sm partition disk:179,0 private", I immediately get a new line to start typing. It just doesn't work... When I check my phone it still shows up as a regular external sd card with no changes...
The same thing happens to me. The command line pops up again like it didn't take. Though it worked on my old s7. What can I do to correct it?
Go to settings about and check are you on PG1 firmware. if you are use odin to downgrade to the firmware version below PG1. After you downgrade then the commands to enable adoptable storage. After its enabled then start the update to update to PG1. This will allow you to have the adoptable storage on PG1 and future updates just dont wipe data or you'll have to downgrade enable adoptable storage then update again.. @Peanuttree @HOrobOD
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Go to settings about and check are you on PG1 firmware. if you are use odin to downgrade to the firmware version below PG1. After you downgrade then the commands to enable adoptable storage. After its enabled then start the update to update to PG1. This will allow you to have the adoptable storage on PG1 and future updates just dont wipe data or you'll have to downgrade enable adoptable storage then update again.. @Peanuttree @HOrobOD
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Thank you very much! I will try that now. Is the second to last update G935ACUS2APF2 ?
This is the firmware I used:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/att-s7-edge/how-to/stock-firmware-935a-att-t3410887
IT WORKED!
Thanks again BaconSeeds!
is root needed for this?
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is root needed for this?
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BaconSeeds said:
Go to settings about and check are you on PG1 firmware. if you are use odin to downgrade to the firmware version below PG1. After you downgrade then the commands to enable adoptable storage. After its enabled then start the update to update to PG1. This will allow you to have the adoptable storage on PG1 and future updates just dont wipe data or you'll have to downgrade enable adoptable storage then update again.. @Peanuttree @HOrobOD
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Does the downgrade wipe the phone or is the user data retained?