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Correct me if i am wrong but here is what i see :
1-Battery is descent but if it fails for whatever reason , i have to ship it back to fix the battery . Also not sure in terms of development, what would it mean to not be able to do a battery pull. Also if the battery dies, gotta wait for it to charge
2-This is the only HTC phone that does NOT do surf and talk on 3g
3-No micro sd , i am on unlimited and i was planning on buying full price to keep it , but in the future if they decide to screw us over and take it away completely ( verizon is not exactly loyal to their customers ) I am pretty much SOL.
4- No bluetooth and simultaneous aux in like the rezound had. SO if I am in the car and I have my bluetooth paired and the aux in , it will not route my music to the aux port like the rezound did and route my phone calls to my bluetooth.
So what do the new owners think, did i get it right ?
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Correct me if i am wrong but here is what i see :
1-Battery is descent but if it fails for whatever reason , i have to ship it back to fix the battery . Also not sure in terms of development, what would it mean to not be able to do a battery pull. Also if the battery dies, gotta wait for it to charge
2-This is the only HTC phone that does NOT do surf and talk on 3g
3-No micro sd , i am on unlimited and i was planning on buying full price to keep it , but in the future if they decide to screw us over and take it away completely ( verizon is not exactly loyal to their customers ) I am pretty much SOL.
4- No bluetooth and simultaneous aux in like the rezound had. SO if I am in the car and I have my bluetooth paired and the aux in , it will not route my music to the aux port like the rezound did and route my phone calls to my bluetooth.
So what do the new owners think, did i get it right ?
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#1 Pretty much just like the iPhone... There is a certain button combo you press/hold that will act as a "battery pull". I'm not sure what it is off the top of my head since I haven't had to do it (I have a Rezound).
#2 The only plus about the fixed back is the phone will definitely feel sturdy! I've got an extended battery on my Rezound and man it's annoying how squeaky it is.
#3 Hope they don't mess with unlimited. I don't use much storage luckily. I just checked my Rez and I only had a few GB's used total between the internal and external storage.
#4 I couldn't get that to work on my Rezound... Either I'm doing it wrong or maybe it's how my car handles it?
The only thing that has me questioning hitting the pre-order button is how often I will need to use voice/data over 3G (since this doesn't have the ability). Decisions decisions...
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tehknics said:
#1 Pretty much just like the iPhone... There is a certain button combo you press/hold that will act as a "battery pull". I'm not sure what it is off the top of my head since I haven't had to do it (I have a Rezound).
#2 The only plus about the fixed back is the phone will definitely feel sturdy! I've got an extended battery on my Rezound and man it's annoying how squeaky it is.
#3 Hope they don't mess with unlimited. I don't use much storage luckily. I just checked my Rez and I only had a few GB's used total between the internal and external storage.
#4 I couldn't get that to work on my Rezound... Either I'm doing it wrong or maybe it's how my car handles it?
The only thing that has me questioning hitting the pre-order button is how often I will need to use voice/data over 3G (since this doesn't have the ability). Decisions decisions...
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If you are like me and depend on google nav all the time driving , you will need it . 4g is not very reliable driving across state lines and if u get a phone call and need to re route - well then you to make a decision between which one is more imp ... doing it once might not be a big deal , but on a long road trip might become really irritating .
That's a good point... I never thought of it affecting me that way.
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despite all these little cons im still going to get it becuase of the specs
I am happy
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despite all these little cons im still going to get it becuase of the specs
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I am glad you said that, i really wanted to know peoples opinion of my points . I know the specs are beastily , i am so broken hearted that it has all these problems because I know htc has phenomenal reception. I am ready throw my gs3 in my toilet bec of my reception
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I am glad you said that, i really wanted to know peoples opinion of my points . I know the specs are beastily , i am so broken hearted that it has all these problems because I know htc has phenomenal reception. I am ready throw my gs3 in my toilet bec of my reception
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lol and it should not be that hard to root and unlock and s-off
with cm10 or aokp this phone will be a monster
really
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lol and it should not be that hard to root and unlock and s-off
with cm10 or aokp this phone will be a monster
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See we would still be having the same issues .
Any my experience is with HTC is that sometimes they refuse to release a bootloader unlock tool .
I am afraid not as many developer will jump on this because of 1- release of note in the same time 2- release of nexus 4 in the same time 3- how exclusive this device is to verizon . Now you narrowed it down to a handfull of devs that have to do the following : Unlock bootlaoder if htc refuses to it , port a custom recovery to it , and of course root it and then here is the biggest problem , FIX THE RIL TO WORK WITH AOSP .
Over in the rezound world that took a year and if it wasnt for Chad , they would have never had it . and the signal is still shakey.
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See we would still be having the same issues .
Any my experience is with HTC is that sometimes they refuse to release a bootloader unlock tool .
I am afraid not as many developer will jump on this because of 1- release of note in the same time 2- release of nexus 4 in the same time 3- how exclusive this device is to verizon . Now you narrowed it down to a handfull of devs that have to do the following : Unlock bootlaoder if htc refuses to it , port a custom recovery to it , and of course root it and then here is the biggest problem , FIX THE RIL TO WORK WITH AOSP .
Over in the rezound world that took a year and if it wasnt for Chad , they would have never had it . and the signal is still shakey.
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That is true also but one question about the galaxy note 2 for vzw. How will the development for it be will we have cm10 or only touch wiz custom roms?
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Correct me if i am wrong but here is what i see :
1-Battery is descent but if it fails for whatever reason , i have to ship it back to fix the battery . Also not sure in terms of development, what would it mean to not be able to do a battery pull. Also if the battery dies, gotta wait for it to charge
2-This is the only HTC phone that does NOT do surf and talk on 3g
3-No micro sd , i am on unlimited and i was planning on buying full price to keep it , but in the future if they decide to screw us over and take it away completely ( verizon is not exactly loyal to their customers ) I am pretty much SOL.
4- No bluetooth and simultaneous aux in like the rezound had. SO if I am in the car and I have my bluetooth paired and the aux in , it will not route my music to the aux port like the rezound did and route my phone calls to my bluetooth.
So what do the new owners think, did i get it right ?
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1. The new batteries that are coming out with the new phones are like night and day. HTC (not just HTC) are starting to use new batteries with better technology (I'm sure some on XDA could answer this question with details). Apple is no longer the king of battery technology if you get the hint.
2. You are going to see this more and more with Verizon phones. Verizon should have the nation coverage with 4g by the end of 2013.
3. Many of the cell phone manufacturers are moving to cloud service and you will see more of this in the future. The carriers need to reconsider their data plans in the future. Verizon knows about this phone and many others that are coming down the pipe line with no SD card slot.
4. I have not tried bluetooth and simultaneous aux with the DNA. So I'm not sure about this. But HTC had to upgrade the Beats software because it seems to be louder and much more clearer. I also don't have a buzzing sound between songs like on the Rezound.
good question
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That is true also but one question about the galaxy note 2 for vzw. How will the development for it be will we have cm10 or only touch wiz custom roms?
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If you head over to the verizon gs3 forums you will see a sticky with a ridiculous donation amount ( i think in the range of thousands ) to get one of the most elite devs to unlock the boodloader( ADAM ) . I am not sure if we will be that lucky again
Then comes the part where the RIL has to be adjusted to suit verizon weird 3g cdma tech that doesn't like AOSP very much
Till all that happens , you are stuck with touch wiz on note II which is plagued with its own set of problems
Here is what i am referring to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1760568&highlight=bounty+unlock
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1. The new batteries that are coming out with the new phones are like night and day. HTC (not just HTC) are starting to use new batteries with better technology
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I'm going to call BS on this but will gladly eat my words if you can show me a valid source for your information on this new and mysterious HTC battery tech.
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If you head over to the verizon gs3 forums you will see a sticky with a ridiculous donation amount ( i think in the range of thousands ) to get one of the most elite devs to unlock the boodloader( ADAM ) . I am not sure if we will be that lucky again
Then comes the part where the RIL has to be adjusted to suit verizon weird 3g cdma tech that doesn't like AOSP very much
Till all that happens , you are stuck with touch wiz on note II which is plagued with its own set of problems
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dangg so tell me this if i really want a good dev phone what should i get
At this point
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dangg so tell me this if i really want a good dev phone what should i get
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I feel like verizon is losing more devs because of their stunts. I hate to say this but the time will come when we have to chose between the network and dev.
They lock all their bootloaders by requesting the manufacturer to do so. Their last stunt with the loss of unlimited plans bec of an upgrade made lose a whole lot more ( ATT customers can upgrade and keep their unlimited and tmobile have the choice of unlimited 4g for extra 20 a month ).
But as of now the GS3 has amazing development , i just hate the phone its self , piss poor reception. If you have good reception then its a haven for dev.
Here is my advice , WHEN YOU A BUY A PHONE, know this , make sure u will love it as is , in its pure native stock form . Relying on verizon devs is becoming more and more scarce in comparison to the Tbolt days.
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I'm going to call BS on this but will gladly eat my words if you can show me a valid source for your information on this new and mysterious HTC battery tech.
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You are going to call BS on this??? Ok take a battery from a phone that is 3 to 4 years old with the same mah and you tell me it's the same technology????That's just common sense. What you just said is, if I went to Wal-Mart and bought a name brand battery and then bought a off brand battery. The off brand battery would out last the name brand? Not sure what is BS on this, but that's up to you.
Yeah my battery really sucks.... NOT..
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And the phone is really slow and the screen sucks... NOT.. Next time you call someone know Wtf your talking about. I never said the battery was top secret, just battery tech is getting better.
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Thank you so much
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And the phone is really slow and the screen sucks... NOT.. Next time you call someone know Wtf your talking about. I never said the battery was top secret, just battery tech is getting better.
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LIsten i am sorry about the other dude. To all who has came out here and clarified my doubts , thank you for taking the time out ! none of you had any obligations to do so and you answered all my questions perfectly ....
I love XDA for that ..
To be honest, if you have the coin to buy the DNA at full price and concerned about the Dev community associated with the device, leaving vzw and unlimited data is the best route. For years I've been a users of more than 5 gbs per month on Verizon's network, and I was getting closer typo 9 per month with lte phones. But now that phones can handle having the Wi-Fi radio on all day without murdering the battery, staying under3gb/month isn't that big of a deal at all. Between the beastly one x+, the option for unlocked international phones, being able to use true nexus devices, etc. I couldn't be happier. The DNA is a great phone, but the concerns you have (including the big one, simultaneous voice and data) it does sound like art would suit your needs better.
However, if att blows in your area or had a bass experience with them in the past, then by all means, disregard everything I've just said
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If you head over to the verizon gs3 forums you will see a sticky with a ridiculous donation amount ( i think in the range of thousands ) to get one of the most elite devs to unlock the boodloader( ADAM ) . I am not sure if we will be that lucky again
Then comes the part where the RIL has to be adjusted to suit verizon weird 3g cdma tech that doesn't like AOSP very much
Till all that happens , you are stuck with touch wiz on note II which is plagued with its own set of problems
Here is what i am referring to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1760568&highlight=bounty+unlock
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While I do completely agree with what you're trying to say, your facts here are a little goofy. The bootloader unlock took 3 weeks from release date.....pretty damn good if you ask me. Yes, people did pool together a lot of money for it, because they all wanted it that bad. It was a bounty, not that "it cost thousands of dollars". And I also run AOSP only on my gs3, not a single problem with it.
Unlocking the bootloader is night and day difference on the manufacturer though. That was a Samsung device....this is obviously HTC. S-off is a completely different creature all together. I had a Evo 4g, Thunderbolt, and Rezound, (along with other manufacture devices) and they are always puzzling.
To say that we're gonna lose devs to the Nexus 4 could be a bit overzealous seems you're talking about people jumping ship and canceling contracts/switching providers for a phone. It happens but not nearly as often as you think. Believe me, we'll still have plenty of devs for it. Currently the only device in the US market with BOTH 1080p screen AND S4 Pro Quad processor.....it'll attract some attention
You can almost guarentee we'll have Team Bamf onboard here too......
EDIT - and I was also under the impression that it does have simultaneous voice and data?!?!
Hello all,
Long term lurker, decided to finally register and just give a few points about my experience for those that are still on the fence about the LG Optimus G.
I personally love this phone, I've had the iPhone for a while moving from the 3g to 3gs to the 4 and handled the 4s plenty (wifes phone) and the iPhone 5 did not impress me much. I won't go into what I felt was lacking in the iPhone but mention my hesitation(s) on coming to android and specifically this phone.
The biggest reason I was hesitant was that the phone came with ICS with a "planned upgrade" in the future. This is a not an issue IMO- if you are thinking of coming from iPhone to android ICS is more than sufficient and you will be more than happy with it. The phone is very snappy and smooth, no hesitation. If you want Jelly bean just to have Jelly bean you can either be patient with it (like i will be) or root your phone so I really think both parties can be satisfied with this issue. The ICS issue is definitely a non issue for me after playing with the phone and seeing how snappy it is.
The screen is great, I get compliments all the time but sunlight visibility is an issue (it's an issue with the iPhone as well) so that is just something to think about if you are out in the sun a lot etc.It's a minor issues for me but can be a bigger problem for others. Going to the issue where it gives the error regarding its inability to brighten any further due to temperature it rarely happens for me-even when it does most of the time it goes to 87% which is still pretty bright. It is a little annoying sometimes that while on the phone you see it dim as the brightness level lowers automatically without you wanting it too. It is what it is.
LTE is great (my fastest speed in Atl area was 57 download 21 upload!!!), my average speeds have been about 20 download 13 upload. I also love google maps and its navigation feature where it literally is a GPS-even better IMO as it shows a picture of your destination on your phone as you arrive (from google street view-it even shows my home as i pull up if i select to give me directions to my place), I thought that was pretty neat and very handy when you head to a restaurant or a friends home etc you haven't been to.
I knew an issue going in would be accessories, and it sucks that many waited for the Otter box to come out but it only fits Sprint. I went ahead and purchased the body glove from the ATT store and I'm pretty happy with it. Thank God I haven't "tested" its protection yet but it seems like it would do well from a fall.
Battery life was pretty bad at first and took time to adjust, especially coming from an iPhone. After numerous full charge and discharge cycles (about 5 days worth) the battery life greatly improved! I use my phone a lot, mainly texting (minimum 40 outgoing texts a day i'd say), maybe 30 minutes of phone calls a day and a lot of browsing/checking my email and it lasts a whole day. I keep my phone on the quad core setting (i rarely go to "eco mode") and its highest brightest setting with gps on and sync feature off and by midnight my phone would be around 35-40%.
I was on gsmarena, phone arena etc religiously seeing if I should pull the trigger on this phone as I was eligible for an upgrade and wanted to get a phone that would last 2 years. I thought about waiting till the next samsung flagship phone comes but that would have been at least 6 months I believe and with ATT it seems I can get an upgrade every 18 or so months so I feel it is best for me to upgrade my line ASAP whenever possible. Bestbuy had the phone at 99 bucks thanksgiving week and that was when I pulled the trigger.
Overall I'm very very happy with my phone :good: and my first android experience on a phone (i have a tablet)
For those that are hesitant like i was, you will not be disappointed.
A side note for those that may be able to answer two questions for me: can I put my contacts facebook profile pic as their pic in my contacts? I have everything synced to "on" from my sync settings on my system settings to my contacts to facebook saying to sync but it only loads a couple to my contacts (about 5%)
Also for group messages I send out, can I receive texts in that same group message I sent?
Welcome to Android. Enjoy
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Search the play store for an app called "haxsync." It'll do what you want regarding contact pictures.
As for group messages, I don't use those so I cannot comment.
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First off, questions go in the Q/A section. However, since this is your first post I'll answer your question anyway, but please use the Q/A section for any other questions you might have.
Search the play store for an app called "haxsync." It'll do what you want regarding contact pictures.
As for group messages, I don't use those so I cannot comment.
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Lol what... He wrote a very long general post and tagged two small questions to the end. This isn't a question thread is perfectly acceptable where it he posted it.
That said uninstall Facebook clear contact data. Give Google a couple minutes to do is thing after manually syncing. Then reinstall Facebook manually create the account in accounts and sync and then sync it and your contact pictures should update just fine.
To answer your question about group text messages (a la iPhone,) the stock Android Messages app doesn't do that. However, Go SMS Pro or Handcent are two SMS/MMS replacement apps and work great. I use Go SMS Pro and there's an option to enable the group texting/MMSing.
That's one great example of the power of Android... Don't like a stock app? Replace it!
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Lol what... He wrote a very long general post and tagged two small questions to the end. This isn't a question thread is perfectly acceptable where it he posted it.
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Lol I was thinking the exact same thing.
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lol tough crowd! Didn't think bout putting the questions in Q n A at the time. Post was meant to be geared towards those still thinking bout the LG. Thanks to those that answered.
Cheers
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It will almost be a year since I got this phone, and I have to say its going well! Love the hardware and even the Nokia exclusive apps (coming from a Samsung and HTC windows phone). Sure there have been times where I found small defects in the device, but still love it! My question is how are you guys liking your Lumia so far?
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Very good atm coming from android this OS is refreshing and its simplicity and out of the box performance is good imo. Less fragmentation regarding updates compared to android devices where OEM`s decide which devices are updated and which not. Wouln`t choose for a Samsung or HTC WP though, i see the Lumia`s to Microsoft as the Nexus`s are to Google. So overall very happy and i hope MS and Nokia keep up the good work and the app developers will come automaticaly as the OS grows and becomes more and more significant :good:
the best phone ever... almost 7 months using... fell couple of times without any damage (only damage on wooden floor )
dxdy said:
the best phone ever... almost 7 months using... fell couple of times without any damage (only damage on wooden floor )
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I feel you Mine has also fallen (except on tile, lets just say that tile didn't do well ;P) . As for the Lumia's being Microsoft's "Nexus line" it's defiantly true! I wonder if MS taking over Nokia's Mobile division would have any impact in security Microsoft maybe less careful leaving Diagnostic tools and such on the phone than Nokia currently is! (More Exploits?).
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I feel you Mine has also fallen (except on tile, lets just say that tile didn't do well ;P) . As for the Lumia's being Microsoft's "Nexus line" it's defiantly true! I wonder if MS taking over Nokia's Mobile division would have any impact in security Microsoft maybe less careful leaving Diagnostic tools and such on the phone than Nokia currently is! (More Exploits?).
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Not if they are reading this...
I've got the choice between the 920 and the HTC One for my upgrade this month. Leaning towards the 920 due to its old style Nokia strength from what I've heard haha
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I have bought the phone a week ago. I really like Windows phone. I would like more games at the market!!!
Well I'm not currently "enjoying" it. It's out for repair for the fourth time now. After the second time I sent it back I received a refurb, which was all kinds of screwed up: bad soft keys lighting, screen burn-in in two spots, loose battery, and after a few days the earpiece started malfunction. I sent it the third time and it came back working, then it broke again. Now I really hope that they don't send me back the same unit, if that happens I won't even bother turning it on, and just keep using my "backup", the Ativ. I really hate the build and I'm not great fan of AMOLED but at least it works.
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Well I'm not currently "enjoying" it. It's out for repair for the fourth time now. After the second time I sent it back I received a refurb, which was all kinds of screwed up: bad soft keys lighting, screen burn-in in two spots, loose battery, and after a few days the earpiece started malfunction. I sent it the third time and it came back working, then it broke again. Now I really hope that they don't send me back the same unit, if that happens I won't even bother turning it on, and just keep using my "backup", the Ativ. I really hate the build and I'm not great fan of AMOLED but at least it works.
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Ouch! Yeah I've heard Nokia support is sometimes very bad with stuff, but hey you have the Ativ (You can enjoy all that Interop goodness )
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Ouch! Yeah I've heard Nokia support is sometimes very bad with stuff, but hey you have the Ativ (You can enjoy all that Interop goodness )
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Yeah that's a cool plus, however we don't have much to toy with for the moment, just a couple of tweaks
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Yeah that's a cool plus, however we don't have much to toy with for the moment, just a couple of tweaks
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Haha Still a great plus! New stuff is coming out every day! I'm trying to look for exploits in the L920 (I know some people are going to say your a Junior Member you can't do that stuff" I've actually been on the forums since '09 just never made a account, plus it's a challenge I want to push myself to do for fun )
I like it, but my GF does not it as she cannot use it as a vibrator. too weak. LOL.
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I've got the choice between the 920 and the HTC One for my upgrade this month. Leaning towards the 920 due to its old style Nokia strength from what I've heard haha
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Just dropped my HTC One and thought I'd give the Lumia a try. I will say the Lumia 920 has a better camera, and that's a very meaningful claim considering how the HTC One was marketed as having such an innovative camera. The HTC One camera does have a few features no other camera can touch, but the Lumia has seriously better *dynamic range* which makes images look so much better, especially people's faces.
Otherwise, well, I'm sorry to say this, but: Windows Phone is great, just not "great enough". It is about as good as Android or iOS in terms of usability and not as good in terms of app store.
So, having owned both phones I would definitely say go with an HTC One unless the camera matters to you (or you have some kind of all-Microsoft work environment or other reasons why WP can be a totally obvious choice).
Got the One. Spent too much in the Play store to just drop Android
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Got the One. Spent too much in the Play store to just drop Android
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I'd get the One too if I was going android. But the windows phone does what I want on a daily basis beautifully. Better than ios or android. Which is : telephone, email, enterprise outlook calendar, SMS, photos, Netflix, Hulu, Turn by turn Navigation. Definitely miss YouTube but YouTube has gotten boring lately and I don't miss it anymore. I don't even visit it on my computer. Social media hub is awesome and the best thing for a busy professional.
PS: the people/contact hub is the best thing I have experienced, and the synchronization with your SkyDrive is awesome.
The one compelling reason for using the Windows phone is the messaging over Bluetooth. Best thing since sliced bread and for texting while driving. Suck it IOS and android. You have to experience it to appreciate this feature.
And while I am at it: Lockscreen with weather and calendar + glance clock.
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The one compelling reason for using the Windows phone is the messaging over Bluetooth. Best thing since sliced bread and for texting while driving. Suck it IOS and android. You have to experience it to appreciate this feature.
And while I am at it: Lockscreen with weather and calendar + glance clock.
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Android has lockscreen weather and calendar. Moto X now has glance (they call it "active display"). But you are *absolutely right* about that bluetooth text-to-speech feature. I just discovered this the other day and was amazed. My car talks to me now and somehow knows exactly the right thing to do and I never had to set up anything other than pairing it. Indispensable. Huge benefit in terms of safety and convenience. It *may* be possible to get this in android somehow but it was already set up and ready to go in WP8. Why other platforms don't work harder on this I don't know.
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Android has lockscreen weather and calendar. Moto X now has glance (they call it "active display"). But you are *absolutely right* about that bluetooth text-to-speech feature. I just discovered this the other day and was amazed. My car talks to me now and somehow knows exactly the right thing to do and I never had to set up anything other than pairing it. Indispensable. Huge benefit in terms of safety and convenience. It *may* be possible to get this in android somehow but it was already set up and ready to go in WP8. Why other platforms don't work harder on this I don't know.
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One day I took out some friends to lunch in my car and I got a text message come in. The whole interaction was so beautiful that they were shocked at how easily I could text and drive. Interestingly they all assumed it was a feature of my $50K Mercedes Benz. Poor iphone fanboys. Little do they know :cyclops:
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I am doing hard tweaking of it's corners by dropping on the rocky floor.
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I am doing hard tweaking of it's corners by dropping on the rocky floor.
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uwotm7? :|
Dat feel...phone feels like it's made of butter, it chips by looking at it, and the edges are getting dented as fuq, all of this just by laying in my cup holder. Can't wait to have my 920 back, the Ativ felt kinda ok at the beginning, but it got old real quick, like physically old, srs.
Hey guys, i am thinking of buying 920 and i was wondering about the sound in headphones? Are u happy with it? Or is it too quiet?
I got mine yesterday and so far I don't know what this watch was made to do. I love the curved design and the large screen, but why add a SIM card and make it not a stand alone device? Personally I would rather have a thinner watch.
Controlling this device is a head ache to me, the scrolling is sometimes glitchy, the keyboard is oddly shaped and apps don't load information like it should. I owned the first Gear watch and thought it was a cool first step in the right direction of smart watches but some how I feel the first Gear worked better.
I am taking mine back and waiting for a thinner one to come out that functions smoother.
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I got mine yesterday and so far I don't know what this watch was made to do. I love the curved design and the large screen, but why add a SIM card and make it not a stand alone device? Personally I would rather have a thinner watch.
Controlling this device is a head ache to me, the scrolling is sometimes glitchy, the keyboard is oddly shaped and apps don't load information like it should. I owned the first Gear watch and thought it was a cool first step in the right direction of smart watches but some how I feel the first Gear worked better.
I am taking mine back and waiting for a thinner one to come out that functions smoother.
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Kind of, one biggy is not being able to add tasks or reminders. I don't know why but that buggs the crap out of me. I was able to with the first and 2nd gen gear watches. It was said this watch would have more support and more apps but from the looks of it the parts of the SDK for this watch seem to be broken thus slowing down app development.
Where are the thousand apps that was said to be avail at launch? I only see maybe 300 apps? (I have a note 4 that should show all of them you would think)
The watch is cool, don't get me wrong. I like it and I like the ability to make calls and receive calls and notifications when I am away from my phone... Im just dumbfounded that you can do something as simple as add a reminder or a task lol. S voice is hit or miss too. S voice on the Gear 2 was on point! (I kinda miss my gear 2)
I think it needs many sw updates and apps to reach its full potential.
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I think it needs many sw updates and apps to reach its full potential.
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Yeah the big question is if there is development. I already feel that gear 2 was abandoned and the gear s isn't far behind
I am thinking the smartwatch development cycle is so short, that a given watch is abandoned before it's peak is reached.
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I got mine yesterday and so far I don't know what this watch was made to do. I love the curved design and the large screen, but why add a SIM card and make it not a stand alone device? Personally I would rather have a thinner watch.
Controlling this device is a head ache to me, the scrolling is sometimes glitchy, the keyboard is oddly shaped and apps don't load information like it should. I owned the first Gear watch and thought it was a cool first step in the right direction of smart watches but some how I feel the first Gear worked better.
I am taking mine back and waiting for a thinner one to come out that functions smoother.
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It is still a standalone device so I'm not sure how you mean it isn't.
As for the glitches it could either be hardware issues or software, but thinness doesn't seem to be anything that could help.
We are early adopters and with that comes risk but I haven't had problems that would disappoint me to the point of wanting to return it.
It is an advancement for me. But hurry up and take it back if it irritates ya. It isn't for everyone.
if anything I think this watch has exceeded my expectations. I expected to hate the size, hate the batter, hate the useability. I have been please on every aspect.
Sure we need more apps. Some of us are working on that.
If you were expecting custom ROMs and someone porting android then this is not for you. That will likely never really be the case.
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if anything I think this watch has exceeded my expectations. I expected to hate the size, hate the batter, hate the useability. I have been please on every aspect.
Sure we need more apps. Some of us are working on that.
If you were expecting custom ROMs and someone porting android then this is not for you. That will likely never really be the case.
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Oh God no, the farther away from Android I can go the better. I only want root so I can dig around in it to learn.
Where are sound files kept, what is the file structure. Pull and push for light modding.
This watch reminds me of the N900. Sooooo much potential ...
My issues with this watch ates the swype key doesn't work all the time. It completely doesn't choose the word I was spelling. The dang call forwarding almost never works. I constantly get error messages that it can't connect to my phone remotely, my phone will be sitting in a good signal area. And a few times i had to restart the gear because all of a sudden it couldn't read the Sim card. These little issues make me regret buying it.
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I got mine yesterday and so far I don't know what this watch was made to do. I love the curved design and the large screen, but why add a SIM card and make it not a stand alone device? Personally I would rather have a thinner watch.
Controlling this device is a head ache to me, the scrolling is sometimes glitchy, the keyboard is oddly shaped and apps don't load information like it should. I owned the first Gear watch and thought it was a cool first step in the right direction of smart watches but some how I feel the first Gear worked better.
I am taking mine back and waiting for a thinner one to come out that functions smoother.
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I actually am loving it. Screen is great, connection or remote connection works well, and I love the scrolling on it, as it seems smooth and more fun. I had Gear 1 and 2, and find this far superior so far. Battery very good, even with Always on mode going I get a full day. Bluetooth works well with my headset at the gym, and emails seem to work better, as I can read full Exchange emails, as long as I clear out the notification after each one. News updates are really cool looking too.
I'm not terribly disappointed - I think the device itself is a feat in design however, I do have gripes with the software capabilities and not being able to respond to things like notifications directly from the device.
I think when more apps/updates are developed for the device, the experience/usability will drastically improve.
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My issues with this watch ates the swype key doesn't work all the time. It completely doesn't choose the word I was spelling. The dang call forwarding almost never works. I constantly get error messages that it can't connect to my phone remotely, my phone will be sitting in a good signal area. And a few times i had to restart the gear because all of a sudden it couldn't read the Sim card. These little issues make me regret buying it.
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Yours is defective. Exchange it.
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I'm not terribly disappointed - I think the device itself is a feat in design however, I do have gripes with the software capabilities and not being able to respond to things like notifications directly from the device.
I think when more apps/updates are developed for the device, the experience/usability will drastically improve.
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I just my Gear S yesterday and I'm impressed with the design just like I am with the Note 4. I bought the Notifications app to be able to reply. I'm still trying to figure that out. The Gear S looks huge but surprisingly feels like a normal watch to me. I can see it wouldn't feel right if you have tiny wrists though. I'm going to test the watch out for 14 days and see how much I'll use it.
I just feel Samsung didn't put much effort in this device as they have in their phones.
I personally hate that it has its own sim card and it seems that it without a sim slot and the chipset for 3g and wifi it could be a thinner device and still do what most people need it to. I just find it silly to have WiFi and 3g when you can't download it's own apps and not to mention the price difference.
I really thought it would have better apps first and 3rd party since Samsung isn't new to the watch market.
I do like the way the watch looks aside from it being thicker than I think it should be. I own a Note 4 and Note 3 and I think the Note 4 looks better but the Note 3 feels better in hand. Also I fail to understand why the Note 4s screen sticks out further than its bezels unlike the Note 3 where the bezels are out to protect the screen.
I am totally in love with mine. I love that it has its own SIM card slot, which is also why I bought it. For active people, it's a great device, because they can leave their cell phones at home (they are just too darn big these days).
I wish it had a few of the apps I use on my watch, and in general many more apps, and that Samsung would be straight-forward about which tablets work with it and which don't.
Also, I never saw the point of a wrist worn second display to your phone, but now that I have the Gear S, I can even see the appeal of the other (SIM-less) smart watches.
What I hate, though, is that Samsung sells it carrier-locked in the US. The sheer amount of work I have done so far in trying to get an unlocked version is insane, and I am still not done.
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My issues with this watch ates the swype key doesn't work all the time. It completely doesn't choose the word I was spelling. The dang call forwarding almost never works. I constantly get error messages that it can't connect to my phone remotely, my phone will be sitting in a good signal area. And a few times i had to restart the gear because all of a sudden it couldn't read the Sim card. These little issues make me regret buying it.
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May I ask, which carrier version of the watch do you have, and what kind of SIM is in it?
I'd like to know because I am currently using the T-mo version with a T-mo card and have not had any such problems, however, I also have an unopened ATT version that I am waiting to get unlocked (I'll return the tmo one).
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I am totally in love with mine. I love that it has its own SIM card slot, which is also why I bought it. For active people, it's a great device, because they can leave their cell phones at home (they are just too darn big these days).
I wish it had a few of the apps I use on my watch, and in general many more apps, and that Samsung would be straight-forward about which tablets work with it and which don't.
Also, I never saw the point of a wrist worn second display to your phone, but now that I have the Gear S, I can even see the appeal of the other (SIM-less) smart watches.
What I hate, though, is that Samsung sells it carrier-locked in the US. The sheer amount of work I have done so far in trying to get an unlocked version is insane, and I am still not done.
May I ask, which carrier version of the watch do you have, and what kind of SIM is in it?
I'd like to know because I am currently using the T-mo version with a T-mo card and have not had any such problems, however, I also have an unopened ATT version that I am waiting to get unlocked (I'll return the tmo one).
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My swipe is more accurate than I thought it would be but less than on the keyboards I use on my Note 4.
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My swipe is more accurate than I thought it would be but less than on the keyboards I use on my Note 4.
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I have to say, I can't figure out how to best use the keyboard. It detects the actual letter I want to type maybe 50% of the time at most.
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I just feel Samsung didn't put much effort in this device as they have in their phones.
I personally hate that it has its own sim card and it seems that it without a sim slot and the chipset for 3g and wifi it could be a thinner device and still do what most people need it to. I just find it silly to have WiFi and 3g when you can't download it's own apps and not to mention the price difference.
I really thought it would have better apps first and 3rd party since Samsung isn't new to the watch market.
I do like the way the watch looks aside from it being thicker than I think it should be. I own a Note 4 and Note 3 and I think the Note 4 looks better but the Note 3 feels better in hand. Also I fail to understand why the Note 4s screen sticks out further than its bezels unlike the Note 3 where the bezels are out to protect the screen.
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The Note 4 has a 2.5D glass screen with the chamfored aluminium contour to give it a more premium look. It has definitely made a difference and makes the phone feel silky smooth. I really don't think the plastic trim around the Note 3 protected it much and it certainly wasn't attractive. People complained like hell to Samsung regarding premium design, they listened and they delivered and people are still moaning.
As for the Gear S, well looks are subjective and I for one believe it looks stunning. The thickness is down to many factors like a decent speaker, bigger battery, sensors and the sim tray. Comparing it to the Galaxy Gear and the LG G watch r, it's about the same in thickness. The fact it curves round the wrist makes it seem less bulky.
It's not silly to have a 3G and Wifi feature, it's what makes the watch stand out from the others. It's not meant for downloading apps, it's for use when your phone is unavailable. I believe you are missing the whole concept. If you want a thin fashion watch then this isn't the right watch for you and I doubt Samsung ever intended it to be fashionable. It's a techies dream and as far as I am concerned is the best smartwatch out there right now. Granted it is expensive but early adoption is always so. The same reason there aren't thousands of apps for it just yet.
My answer to the original question of whether I am disappointed with the Gear S. . it's an easy and resounding NO!
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I just find it silly to have WiFi and 3g when you can't download it's own apps
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But what even just wifi gives you is at, say your office or home, you can leave your phone sitting on your desk or nightstand and roam freely about the place and still get calls and notifications on the Gear S.
Which to me, is awesome. And clearly better than the Gear Live (which can only helpfully remind you you've left your phone out of range when you walk into the next room)
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I have to say, I can't figure out how to best use the keyboard. It detects the actual letter I want to type maybe 50% of the time at most.
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There are three keyboards. Perhaps one of the others will work better for you?
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There are three keyboards. Perhaps one of the others will work better for you?
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I'll try out the others. Haven't even checked for other keyboards - duh!
I am planing on getting a gear s but I have hear nothing but bad things about does anybody hear like the device and if so what are the pros and cons you have found of this device is it woth get it g or should I wait for the next gen gear to come out
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jolly_roger_hook said:
I am planing on getting a gear s but I have hear nothing but bad things about does anybody hear like the device and if so what are the pros and cons you have found of this device is it woth get it g or should I wait for the next gen gear to come out
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Haters gonna hate. Thats the only way to look at it. Its a cool piece of hardware but theres haters for everything. Hell you tell people the battery will last 2-3 days and they scream bloody murder, "oh it sucks, thats horrible!". Then you tell them the Apple iWatch battery will only last 8 hours and they are all like " oh well thats probably ok" (I dont actually know what the iWatch battery is like). I did just go on a little rant here. It should give you some insight into why people talk bad about it.
Thanks I'll check that out
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Haters gonna hate. Thats the only way to look at it. Its a cool piece of hardware but theres haters for everything. Hell you tell people the battery will last 2-3 days and they scream bloody murder, "oh it sucks, thats horrible!". Then you tell them the Apple iWatch battery will only last 8 hours and they are all like " oh well thats probably ok" (I dont actually know what the iWatch battery is like). I did just go on a little rant here. It should give you some insight into why people talk bad about it.
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Thanks I'll check that out
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Love mine. Yes charge it daily. Do i really need to not sure but rather it last than run out half wau through. Disnt have apps i wanted. So wrote my own. So now it pretty much does everything i want. I quite often leave my phone at home if popping to shops etc. Has step counter and sleep log. The apps i have downloaded are quite cool but dont use them often.
The two i wrote. Access cctv and view from watch. Control domoticz home automation from watch. Yup lazy can turn lights on and off from bed and couch. The tizen ide for programming is not too bad.
Anyways to sum up i love it
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I just got mine yesterday and so far I like it. I had the original Gear 1 and a Moto 360. I will say that the Moto 360 seemed to work better with Google stuff such as Hangouts, but it was far more limited as a device compared to the Gear S. I loaded the Gear Notification Extender, and now I can reply to both Gmail and Hangouts using the Gear S, very nice!
I do like the option of using something like the Opera Mini Browser to view Gmail and such. And I can't wait to try it out this spring while cycling, it would be nice to leave my phone at home or in the car when riding my bike.
Hope this helps.
its a fantastic piece of kit
to be fair i've struggled with it a bit understanding the settings and permutations but the functionality seems to be improving day by day.
the choice of useful apps isn't massive but that hasn't been a problem for me personally,
I'm not a great fan of the interface on my related S4 smartphone but i can live with that
the liberation of just having the watch (ok with your compatible samsung plugged in or turned on somewhere else) is the main attraction for me
i dont understand the haters especially those deriding the battery life, the appearance (it looks great on your wrist in real life), the concept ( i don't think i need one why would anybody else?) or the need to have a samsung phone to go with it ( I'm not charmed by that either that but Samsung are no worse than others in that regard and there are I guess technical reasons why it has to pair with something short of being a brick on your wrist) at least with the Gear S that pairing can be at a distance or indeed you can just use it as a phone on its own
some people have posted here and on android central that they have returned the watch but most actual users who see the use case for them, have checked out the limitations, have persevered or been patient with some of the glitches and understand why its the best in its class
i see your a "senior member" so apologies for showing granny how to suck eggs - apart from that buy it - or hang on a little longer to see if there really is a Gear S 2 coming soon!
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its a fantastic piece of kit
to be fair i've struggled with it a bit understanding the settings and permutations but the functionality seems to be improving day by day.
the choice of useful apps isn't massive but that hasn't been a problem for me personally,
I'm not a great fan of the interface on my related S4 smartphone but i can live with that
the liberation of just having the watch (ok with your compatible samsung plugged in or turned on somewhere else) is the main attraction for me
i dont understand the haters especially those deriding the battery life, the appearance (it looks great on your wrist in real life), the concept ( i don't think i need one why would anybody else?) or the need to have a samsung phone to go with it ( I'm not charmed by that either that but Samsung are no worse than others in that regard and there are I guess technical reasons why it has to pair with something short of being a brick on your wrist) at least with the Gear S that pairing can be at a distance or indeed you can just use it as a phone on its own
some people have posted here and on android central that they have returned the watch but most actual users who see the use case for them, have checked out the limitations, have persevered or been patient with some of the glitches and understand why its the best in its class
i see your a "senior member" so apologies for showing granny how to suck eggs - apart from that buy it - or hang on a little longer to see if there really is a Gear S 2 coming soon!
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chrisreese said:
I just got mine yesterday and so far I like it. I had the original Gear 1 and a Moto 360. I will say that the Moto 360 seemed to work better with Google stuff such as Hangouts, but it was far more limited as a device compared to the Gear S. I loaded the Gear Notification Extender, and now I can reply to both Gmail and Hangouts using the Gear S, very nice!
I do like the option of using something like the Opera Mini Browser to view Gmail and such. And I can't wait to try it out this spring while cycling, it would be nice to leave my phone at home or in the car when riding my bike.
Hope this helps.
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Dagaz said:
Love mine. Yes charge it daily. Do i really need to not sure but rather it last than run out half wau through. Disnt have apps i wanted. So wrote my own. So now it pretty much does everything i want. I quite often leave my phone at home if popping to shops etc. Has step counter and sleep log. The apps i have downloaded are quite cool but dont use them often.
The two i wrote. Access cctv and view from watch. Control domoticz home automation from watch. Yup lazy can turn lights on and off from bed and couch. The tizen ide for programming is not too bad.
Anyways to sum up i love it
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Thanks for all the replies very helpful now I just have to decide if I want to get the vzw version with its own number or wait for T-mobile to get them in Stock so I can have root
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Thanks for all the replies very helpful now I just have to decide if I want to get the vzw version(as its my service provider) with its own number or wait for T-mobile to get them in Stock so I can have root
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I would get one that can be rooted. Mine may go back because of the lockdown.
What type of lights are you turning on and off? And what brand camera? I didn't see your apps on gear store
Thats because i wrote the apps for myself.
My home lights via domoticz
Accessing a cctv server system to view live images.
Might adapt them for the store at some stage but presently just because i wanted them.
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I have the WEMO light switches and wished there was an app for it on my watch. And I have foscam cameras, not necessary for a watch but I thought it would be cool.
kieso said:
I have the WEMO light switches and wished there was an app for it on my watch. And I have foscam cameras, not necessary for a watch but I thought it would be cool.
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No apps maybe, but you can go to the website for your Foscam using the Opera browser on the watch. Cheers!