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Hi,
I am new to the Atrix, but have a background in software development and was a sys admin on unix for a number of years.
I would like to know if, after a phone is rooted, do all apps run as root? or does routing simple install a setuid "su", and root apps call that when they need root access?
The webtop2sd post looks very complete and also something I will try soon. Do I need to unlock the bootloader to run a modified webtop from my sd card?
I would like to keep my phone as stock as possible, but enable a hacked webtop on the sd card.
Also there are 1000's of root threads, what is the safest canonical method (that can easily be undone)?
Many thanks and sorry for asking for your time. I have not found these answers around, but then again, there is a great amount of mis-information out there.
thx,
Scott.
Hi Scott.
I can only partially help you out; someone with more experience will answer at some point I'm sure. I'm running stock Gingerbread & rooted.
Regarding rooting: I followed the instructions on this site (which are duplicated across multiple sites, I'm sure). It worked just fine with no errors or other reasons to cause concern. That said, I'm not sure how to undo the rooting process other than by accepting an over-the-air update to ICS. Which is totally going to happen. ... <crickets>
I might be able to answer your root-app question: whenever an app requests root access, a dialog box pops up prompting me to allow or deny it. While I'm sure it's possible for a rogue rootkit to get in there if installing shady programs is your thing, I haven't yet had a problem. (A sidenote: there's an app on the market called LBE Privacy that gives you full control over app permissions: access to phone state, contacts, SMS, etc.)
Can't really help you on the webtop2sd thing, though I did install this modification to run the webtop over my HDMI cable, no lapdock required.
Is there any site or source on the web that provides downloads of old versions of Android Market apps? This would be for apps that are now updated or no longer available on the Market? I am looking for a site similar to "OldVersion.com" which has some old/classic PC software (but this would be something for android apps instead)?
Thanks if anyone knows of a source or sites.
CustomShortcut gone?
The app that I am looking for in the above post was a free one called CustomShortcut APK. I now have it on one of my two phones (the other phone had it but was lost and replaced). I have tried looking for a developer page for this app but no luck as everything seems to point back to android market as the source link for download.
Does anyone know of a way or source for me to get this APK back on my other phone? Is there a way to copy it from one phone to the other? I am assuming that it was removed from the market because it may not be compatible with ICS but I am not running ICS. The application was made by appli.club.
Are you rooted? If so use root explorer to look for the .apk in the /system/app folder and copy or email it to the other phone and install it.
85gallon said:
Are you rooted? If so use root explorer to look for the .apk in the /system/app folder and copy or email it to the other phone and install it.
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No sadly I am not rooted. Is that how this could be done? I have an HTC phone (Sensation) and I like my "sense" gui. Don't want to wipe it out by rooting (that is what would happen, right?) If access to the apk is possible with rooting, then I guess my question would be, does anyone else here have CustomCut on their rooted phone? (Or possibly know of any website that would have those apk's available for download). I would be willing to pay if someone would take the time to send me a replacement copy.
just google for any app you want like this:
"title" "versionnumber" "apk" "download"
for example:
android market 2.9 apk download
mojosingle said:
No sadly I am not rooted. Is that how this could be done? I have an HTC phone (Sensation) and I like my "sense" gui. Don't want to wipe it out by rooting (that is what would happen, right?) If access to the apk is possible with rooting, then I guess my question would be, does anyone else here have CustomCut on their rooted phone? (Or possibly know of any website that would have those apk's available for download). I would be willing to pay if someone would take the time to send me a replacement copy.
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Rooting will not wipe out your phone or change it other than giving you super user privileges. That way you will have access to get to the system apps folder.
I notice apktop keeps old versions around. But part of the reason I like Titanium backup is because I have a fail safe if a new update to an app is bad, as I can just restore from the last backup the older version.
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Rooting will not wipe out your phone or change it other than giving you super user privileges. That way you will have access to get to the system apps folder.
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Well I am not really too concerned about it wiping out my phone, but I thought I had read many posts here talking about once you root your phone the native skin from the manufacturer is eliminated (for HTC that would be the "Sense" user interface). Can you please confirm? Is this not true? HTC Sense will remain exactly the same after rooting my phone?
The other thing that has made me cautious is that my phone runs perfectly now and I see so many threads on the xda boards here and over at various android forums that start off with "My ____ app is not working right since I rooted...." Just a little daunting for a newbie like myself.
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I notice apktop keeps old versions around. But part of the reason I like Titanium backup is because I have a fail safe if a new update to an app is bad, as I can just restore from the last backup the older version.
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Thanks very much for the site suggestion. I have been trying to search for the CustomShortcut APK over there but no luck ...so far (the site search is not that easy to use). I have even tried to seach the site externally using google but, unfortunately, still no luck.
Wait for someone else to confirm on the htc, but nothing changed on my droidx. I just had superuser privs. All of the "this app quit working" is when people flash custom roms. You don't do that when you just root. But you have to be rooted in order to do things like that. Lol.
Rooting gives you the power to do that if you want to.
When I rooted my droidx, I did it just so I could have the power to do other things if I wanted. I am still on factory rom. But I am able to get to parts of the phone that are off limits if I wasnt rooted. I made it where I could tether, later I got rid of bloatware, etc.
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Wait for someone else to confirm on the htc, but nothing changed on my droidx. I just had superuser privs. All of the "this app quit working" is when people flash custom roms. You don't do that when you just root. But you have to be rooted in order to do things like that. Lol.
Rooting gives you the power to do that if you want to.
When I rooted my droidx, I did it just so I could have the power to do other things if I wanted. I am still on factory rom. But I am able to get to parts of the phone that are off limits if I wasnt rooted. I made it where I could tether, later I got rid of bloatware, etc.
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Thanks once again for the reply. Now that you mention it, I remember reading the terminology "flashed" rom and thought they were similar or the same thing as rooting. One other question, once a phone is in a rooted state, if I was to go in and copy the APK for my replacement phone and put it on there could I then "unroot" lol ...sorry if this is not a word... so that my phone was no longer open? I had read somewhere (perhaps I heard it on a TWIT or Android podcast) that when your phone is in root state that anyone (ie: potentially bad software) has easier access to your phone's vunerable areas.
mojosingle said:
Thanks once again for the reply. Now that you mention it, I remember reading the terminology "flashed" rom and thought they were similar or the same thing as rooting. One other question, once a phone is in a rooted state, if I was to go in and copy the APK for my replacement phone and put it on there could I then "unroot" lol ...sorry if this is not a word... so that my phone was no longer open? I had read somewhere (perhaps I heard it on a TWIT or Android podcast) that when your phone is in root state that anyone (ie: potentially bad software) has easier access to your phone's vunerable areas.
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yes you can unroot. As for easy access after you are rooted to vulnerable areas, they can only get access if you let them. If an app wants super user privileges, you will get a pop up from su(the super user apk) telling you that some app is wanting privileges. You can grant or deny access. The only things on my phone that have ever given me a pop up are things that i downloaded and know need su access. Wifi tether, root explorer, adfree, etc.
I have found a site that keeps older version of an android app. It's called Android Drawer.
Hope it helps
Q: difficulties with finding T-Mobile p769 malware free unlocking & rooting method
Hi,
I am a total newbie when it comes to rooting stuff (I did root my nexus 7 2012 without using a toolkit so I have some slight experience, but this phone seems to be much more difficult).
However, I have seriously spent many hours searching and reading many different unlocking bootloader & root guides for the 769, and I cannot seem to find a method that will work and is safe.
With the guide that I have read the most (i. e. [GUIDE] Root L9 ICS/Jelly Bean with New Lelus method and Offline Flash (1st and 2nd post) ), there is a serious malware problem.
I don't have a pop-up blocker enabled & I have never seen this type of malware threat message before where chrome will not allow me to download these files (message displayed is like " chrome is preventing you from downloading these malicious files) RootJB_and_Flash_Guide_byCMahendra_AngryWolf80(31-Mar).zip], so it freaks me out a bit.
Anyway I'm sorry if I missed something but I have never seen this type of message, so if anyone can help me on the best method for unlocking and rooting that would be awesome!
Thanks.
I can help but I need q favor
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directlyobservable said:
Hi,
I am a total newbie when it comes to rooting stuff (I did root my nexus 7 2012 without using a toolkit so I have some slight experience, but this phone seems to be much more difficult).
However, I have seriously spent many hours searching and reading many different unlocking bootloader & root guides for the 769, and I cannot seem to find a method that will work and is safe.
With the guide that I have read the most (i. e. [GUIDE] Root L9 ICS/Jelly Bean with New Lelus method and Offline Flash (1st and 2nd post) ), there is a serious malware problem.
I don't have a pop-up blocker enabled & I have never seen this type of malware threat message before where chrome will not allow me to download these files (message displayed is like " chrome is preventing you from downloading these malicious files) RootJB_and_Flash_Guide_byCMahendra_AngryWolf80(31-Mar).zip], so it freaks me out a bit.
Anyway I'm sorry if I missed something but I have never seen this type of message, so if anyone can help me on the best method for unlocking and rooting that would be awesome!
Thanks.
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Hey so I just tested the download and you're right, Chrome does block it (although you can get around it)... But back when I had my L9, I downloaded it with firefox and checked it with malwarebytes and it was fine. It's not malicious, or wasn't when I used it. However, most apps that hack devices (rooting apps, modified dlls on computer applications, etc) show as malicious when they're not, it's just the nature by which it's designed. I would recommend allowing the download, to an external flash stick or sd card then scanning it with AV. If you're still uncomfortable with it, use a different method. But, I will say from my experience, it worked for me just fine when I still had my L9.
And yes, this phone is way more complicated to root, unlock, etc. I traded mine in plus some cash for an S3. Couldn't be happier, but when I had my L9, I went through everything on this forum. It was a PITA, but I will say I liked this community- they've worked together and worked hard on these processes to help each other out along with other owners of the L9. I feel they and the methods they put forth are genuine.
directlyobservable said:
Hi,
I am a total newbie when it comes to rooting stuff (I did root my nexus 7 2012 without using a toolkit so I have some slight experience, but this phone seems to be much more difficult).
However, I have seriously spent many hours searching and reading many different unlocking bootloader & root guides for the 769, and I cannot seem to find a method that will work and is safe.
With the guide that I have read the most (i. e. [GUIDE] Root L9 ICS/Jelly Bean with New Lelus method and Offline Flash (1st and 2nd post) ), there is a serious malware problem.
I don't have a pop-up blocker enabled & I have never seen this type of malware threat message before where chrome will not allow me to download these files (message displayed is like " chrome is preventing you from downloading these malicious files) RootJB_and_Flash_Guide_byCMahendra_AngryWolf80(31-Mar).zip], so it freaks me out a bit.
Anyway I'm sorry if I missed something but I have never seen this type of message, so if anyone can help me on the best method for unlocking and rooting that would be awesome!
Thanks.
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I had the same problem. I tried to download the lelus root method and chrome blocked it. I ended up downloading it on my tablet using opera classic browser, then transferred it to my pc and antivirus said that there was a trojan horse in one of the dll's. I'm sure this method is fine to root your device with, as absinthesummer said a lot of modified dll's and rooting apps will show as malicious software. I ended up not using this method though.
I downloaded vroot and then everyone was saying that it steals you personal information. So i didn't use this method either.
The only other one that I didn't hear anything bad about was cydia impactor. Downloaded it without any problems and rooted my ms769 in seconds without any hiccups.
Thanks for the replies absinthesummer & xdrc45. I'm glad it wasn't just me having the problem with the lelus root method, and while I agree with files and rooting apps being recognized as malware, this kind of weirded me out. Oh and @ xdrc45, thanks for the tip about using cydia impactor, I'm definitely going that route.
Hi people!
I have a Samsung Galaxy core plus (SM-3502L) and there's nothing on the Web to root my phone.
So, I'm deciding to leave some personal projects aside and start learning about the root process of Android, can anyone point me in the right directions, I really don't know where to stay.
I want to start from the basics, but please give me intermediate and advanced stuffs to, so I don't need to post another question once I get through the basics.
Thanks in advance.
Rooting your old phone
rafinha90 said:
Hi people!
I have a Samsung Galaxy core plus (SM-3502L) and there's nothing on the Web to root my phone.
So, I'm deciding to leave some personal projects aside and start learning about the root process of Android, can anyone point me in the right directions, I really don't know where to stay.
I want to start from the basics, but please give me intermediate and advanced stuffs to, so I don't need to post another question once I get through the basics.
Thanks in advance.
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This could be relatively easy or complicated task, depending on numerous factors. All rooting is is giving your phone super user control, meaning you have full control of the phone and programs can access specific system files normally locked by stock firmware. To Root your phone you will need a modified(custom) firmware for your phone; this is the easiest way to gain root access. If you cannot find a program to alter stock firmware, then you will not be able to root your phone. Rooting is really unsafe in terms of being vulnerable to attack since it does not have those place holds there to prevent a hacker from compromising your phone. If you are willing to trade security for what little freedom comes with rooting I say go for it, otherwise I wouldn't waste your time on it. Good luck in your future endeavors with android and rooting.
I understand the risks involved.
And you said "little freedom", maybe for normal users. I'm a developer (not android) and a Linux enthusiast. I love the freedom to change every little aspect of the OS. And they are not few. But I'm not used to the android environment yet. I want to learn how to deeply modify my Os, but first I need to root it and understand the process of rooting it.
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Hi all, when I bought the Lenovo A916 phone from www.lightinthebox.com it came with spyware included in the Stock Rom(which had been modified by 3rd party), impossible to get rid of unless you root the phone, because its located in system files.
Beware, if you do a factory reset the spyware will be back! Also, do NOT use your phone for banking or anything else with passwords, before you have removed the spyware since it contains a keylogger!
You can flash it with new Rom(also known as Firmware) or a clean Stock(original) Rom - that will remove the spyware. You have to be rooted for this to work.
Right now my phone has A916_S1205_141013 rom - below there is a link to this Rom - its multilingual - I have not yet had the time to try it myself and don't know if its clean.
http://firmwarefile.com/lenovo-a916
I have removed all the spyware, after I rooted my phone, and its working as it should - But as I said earlier, the spyware will return if I do factory reset.
If you bought this phone on the net like most of us, then I suggest that you install the following and scan for spyware. Take note, that the spyware is not from Lenovo!
Avast, Avira, ESET, 360 security, Malwarebytes - use all of them, since there are always something one don't find but the other one will.
Be aware that something can go wrong, and I'm not responsible for you trying this out.
The best way to root is Kingo root. But first, attach your phone to your PC/laptop(make its connected to the internet) and on the phone choose MTP, now the phone will install drivere for its first use - this is important!
Then you click the icon in the notification area in windows, to dissconnect usb devices and dissconnect your phone. Wait a few min, - then re-connect and this time (on he phone) choose the last option which say something like "Virtual CD". If autorun is enabled on your pc, you will then get an option to browse this virtual CD - do so!
Copy the content of the virtual CD to a new folder on your pc, then run and install LenovoUsbDriver_autorun_1.0.12.exe - this is important. Don't bother with the other things there since its in chinese.
Then get Kingo root from here:
http://www.kingoapp.com/android-root.htm
Click to download it from CNET, be aware that it might get caught by your antivirus - not that it contains virus, but because its used to root phones. If it got to you pc safely, then run it and it will download the real rooting software - make sure to say NO/Decline/uncheck to any offer that comes up(like install Yahoo). Stupid and annoying way CNET try to impose their stuff onto people.
Now, the real software has been downloaded(android_root.exe) - run it and follow the guide. There are also a guide on Kingo root's webpage.
After you have rooted your phone, run the antivirus Apps again, this time you will be able to remove some but not all of the spyware. Make a list of those you can't remove - then go to the superuser app you can remove the software that contains spyware and cannot be cleaned otherwise. Be careful what you remove.
I found spyware in these and removed with the supeuser app
Trojan.Agent.mq in /system/app/CallerID.apk
PUP.Adware.ShinyMob.a in /mnt/sdcard/funweather.apk
Backdoor.Ginmaster in /system/app/Weatherservice_K517_u002_20140910.apk
Trojan.Fadeb.a in /system/app/Twitter_qd_3025.apk
Do NOT remove the ThemeCenter app!! Its used its used by the system to set wallpaper. If it has spyware then you can remove it and replace it with the one in this post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=63651753&postcount=42
Good luck!
JBJ
Moderator, please don't remove any of this - Its super important!
If someone has suggestion or tips to this thread then please PM me an I can insert it with credit in the 1st post!
I don't have any direct experience with this device, being in the USA, but this seems like it might work http://www.needrom.com/download/lenovo-a916-multilang-root-gapps/ .
I don't have any direct experience with this device, being in the USA, but this seems like it might work http://www.needrom.com/download/leno...ng-root-gapps/ .
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Hi and thank you for the answer, I have looked at these already, but the authors seem not to want to answer questions on if this is clean.
EDIT: this is obsolete now - please read at 1st post!
EDIT: this is obsolete now - please read at 1st post!
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insomniacno1 said:
EDIT: this is obsolete now - please read at 1st post!
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Hello I have a Lenovo A916 and im planing on rooting it and installing a vanilla version of android on it to get rid of the bloatware it contains
I was thinking of using the rom you just shared but after seeing your comment about "this is obsolete now" I have now to ask you what do you mean by obsolete? the rom link didnt turn out to be safe or something?