Is it possible to get the Hi-Fi DAC working with a Bluetooth headset?
I think this would do the trick for you http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v10/themes-apps/dac-fix-hi-fi-dac-everywhere-t3274457
But really ??? on Bluetooth??? I think you would just be using up more batter for no better sound due to what Bluetooth does.
It's impossible to have the DAC affect bluetooth sound. The data is sent to the bluetooth device.... You would need to plug in a aux cable and plug it in to a bluetooth adapter and well just don't do because you'll need to carry a powersource for that and the adapter and just no lol. DAC - digital to analog converter, so yeah it's still digital when sent through the phones bluetooth.
For the best bluetooth audio get devices that support aptx and if you can find devices that are either bluetooth 4.1 or 4.0.
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It's impossible to have the DAC affect bluetooth sound. The data is sent to the bluetooth device.... You would need to plug in a aux cable and plug it in to a bluetooth adapter and well just don't do because you'll need to carry a powersource for that and the adapter and just no lol. DAC - digital to analog converter, so yeah it's still digital when sent through the phones bluetooth.
For the best bluetooth audio get devices that support aptx and if you can find devices that are either bluetooth 4.1 or 4.0.
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Even if you plug an Bluetooth adapter in the aux output you will not use the v10 dac for your headphones. It would be: phone DAC - Bluetooth ADC - Headphone DAC.
So probably it sound worse after the extra converting and it defenetly different as if you plug it directly in the phone (dac color the sound)
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Even if you plug an Bluetooth adapter in the aux output you will not use the v10 dac for your headphones. It would be: phone DAC - Bluetooth ADC - Headphone DAC.
So probably it sound worse after the extra converting and it defenetly different as if you plug it directly in the phone (dac color the sound)
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Ya, your definitely right. Converting to digital and analog back and forth 3 times is like taking a photo and putting it on a copy machine and then making a copy of the copy and another copy of the copy. It's not going to look good at all.
Yes the sound would get worse. I wasn't thinking when I posted this I am a audio engineer so I know a little something about audio lol! Having a long week and I wasn't thinking when I posted this just moved into a new house. I'm used to using viper4android on my Nexus 6 so when I couldn't do that on this phone I got frustrated. But anyhow I'll have to wait for root thanks anyways members of xda! Appreciate the responses!
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Hi,
My Vario II justification to the misses was that we'd be able to listen to music in the car with it (our CD player is dead).
Has anyone come across an FM transmitter that you can power from the car cigar lighter and plug directly into the mini usb socket on the TyTN?
Cheers,
Steve.
I'm looking for the same thing
I bought a SONY MEX5000 BT stereo that uses Bluetooth streaming. It is so cool! much better quality(sound) then the radio ones. I dont carry CDs anymore just everything over BT with MP3s.
FM Transmitter w/car charger
Have a look at this:
Audia-x FM Wireless transmitter Version 2
_http://www.merconnet.com/product_info.php?products_id=426&page=1&meRrid=62fb2de7fd3cc8773287b55f5251c89f
and
_http://www.seidioonline.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=85
and Car FM Transmitter + USB Charger Adaptor
_http://www.tangshop.com/mp3-fm-transmitter-usb.html
_http://jpshk.trustpass.alibaba.com/product/11038314/5_In_1_FM_Car_Transmitter_For_Ipod_PDA_MP3_Players.html
_http://store.l-f-l.com/cgi-bin/cp-app.cgi?pg=prod&ref=FM-TRANSMITTER
Google rulit nepadeccki :-D
lvlx said:
Have a look at this:
Audia-x FM Wireless transmitter Version 2
_http://www.merconnet.com/product_info.php?products_id=426&page=1&meRrid=62fb2de7fd3cc8773287b55f5251c89f
and
_http://www.seidioonline.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=85
and Car FM Transmitter + USB Charger Adaptor
_http://www.tangshop.com/mp3-fm-transmitter-usb.html
_http://jpshk.trustpass.alibaba.com/product/11038314/5_In_1_FM_Car_Transmitter_For_Ipod_PDA_MP3_Players.html
_http://store.l-f-l.com/cgi-bin/cp-app.cgi?pg=prod&ref=FM-TRANSMITTER
Google rulit nepadeccki :-D
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and how to connect ?
--> no way @ this moment ...
Try Nokia HS-12W. Google to see how it looks like.
It is a bluetooth Stereo Headset which you can listen to MP3 played from Tytn.
It is also a standalone FM Radio by itself without the Tytn at all.
I have one, cool.
Hi and is there a bluetooth receiver taht one can plug into a stereo ?
HS-12W is a Wireless (no wire between it and phone) Stereo Headphone via Bluetooth with Build in FM Radio.
What I meant about the bluetooth reciever is if there is one that tha pda streams music and is recieved by a device that can be plugged into the home stereo, same principle as a headset only differance is that it'll go to speakers.....hop I made it clearer this time... or maybe it's that I am not gettin it jaja
You are refering to Home Stereo Hi-Fi Amplifier/Receiver to speakers. Well it is something I was thinking about some years ago when I first read the white paper on Bluetooth v2.0 A2DP Profile.
But Hi-Fi industry in term of following latest trend is normally a little slower than the computer & mobile industry. So far, not that I know of that there is a build in Bluetooth Hi-Fi system including speakers. Maybe it is time to do a google on this topic, it would be good if there is such solution to get rid of the messy wire connections.
I do know that there is such thing as Bluetooth Donger, which is a bluetooth device with a headphone jack and you can plug the headphone jack into the Hi-Fi headphone jack and bingo you have wireless music with you wireless headphone, but bluetooth is quite subject to surrounding interfence, so you may have broken music in your ears.
The is also some not so good old technology using Infra-Red. The better ones are the wireless headphone sets using RF frequency which you can listen to music even you and your hi-fi are in different room.
Hope I got your question right this time.
Hey CWKJ,
Thanx for your reply. Look at the following link:
http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=130588
It's a bluetooth speaker, but what I am looking for is something that can make any car home stereo into a bluetooth reciever...
You mean something like the Tunestage II for the iPOD?
http://www.techdigest.tv/2006/10/belkins_tunesta.html
I'm looking for something similar that will plug into a car stereo - i.e. a bluetooth receiver which will plug into the external input of my car stereo, so I can stream to it from my TyTN - anyone know of anything?
PS Yes, I have seen the Parrot MK6000, but I don't think its out until Q1 2007....
BINGO!! Yes like this, only that you don't need the transmitter (tytyn would be it!).
check out the I-Tech S35 clip. A2DP receiver with a 5mm headset jack. You can cable this to your car with an adaptor cable. The I-Tech doesn't skip either!
Yes! this seems to work! jajaj do you actually use it? or know of someone that has used it with this purpose?
Once again thank you for your responses!
I've not used it myself for this purpose. I've no doubt that it will work though. What I am interested in is the usable range. The applicaton I have in mind will require 4-5 meter range from the I-Tech device to my TyTN.
C.R
Ok, you are talking about car hi-fi system, the speaker looks good.
For Home hi-fi system, maybe there isn't bluetooth audiophile speaker yet.
For the car hi-fi system, there are some with the audio output (the Left - Right or White - Red cable build-in type audio output cable). Buy another cable adaptor (Left - Right/White - Red to stereo headphone cable) and the Bluetooth Donger, connect them up and you will have the audio on you bluetooth speaker. Hope this works!
Hey! look at this:
http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/12/sony-goes-ape-with-a2dp-stereo-bluetooth-accessories/
Sony always has great product.
November 18 in Japan? If so, wondering when it will be available in other parts of the world?
I already found some for sale in ebay!! wow!
Has anyone noticed terrible noise when using an S3 docking system or cable to output both Audio and Charging?
- extreme hiss and random noise, machine processor noise, crackle etc. (only if charger is plugged in as well)
- after 2 seconds of no sound, you can hear what resembles to be an AUDIO gate...that kicks in and mutes the noise until you trigger your next button sound.
- Even if you listen to a song, and think it doesn't happen while listening to a song...IT'S still there...fighting the song and causing degradation in Audio quality.
- not too mention, phone calls will NOT route through the USB jack, and music and navigation type stuff.
- if you unplug the charger, the sound cleans right up and sounds fine. It's the combination of having the audio and charging outputs all in one.
- ground loop isolators do not help
I have a background as an audio technician and some electronics skills and I did hours of testing and modding...unfortunately! All failed. I own an Ibolt car cradle (which I did most of my testing with), a KiDiGi desktop docking cradle, and I even hand made a cable that could trigger docking mode. All three of these scenarios FAILED with the NOISE factor.
I have resigned to thinking it is a hardware design bug with the S3. I have modified my Ibolt so that it sends out audio from an extra cable that plugs into the Headphone Jack...which as a bonus, as sends Dialer audio.
(I just realized that this is the i9300 thread, and I have a i747m but maybe this thread could help all the same)
I've had three S3's and used USB audio out to my car stereo via 3.5mm. None ever generated any additional noise.
CZ Eddie said:
I've had three S3's and used USB audio out to my car stereo via 3.5mm. None ever generated any additional noise.
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Eddie...can you confirm these points:
1) You have a usb cable or dock that comes out the bottom of your S3, and it splits into USB for charging....and 3.5mm for audio? (NOT THE HEADPHONE OUT)
Is it a cable or dock and would you mind tell me the name of it?
2) What do you plug the audio into?
- stock car audio input
- front aux input on a car deck stereo system (stock/aftermarket)
- rear aux inputs to aftermarket stereo
- other?
3) with the steareo turned up fairly loud, but no music playing, do you hear any noise when you click buttons (assuming you have audio enabled for button clicks in Android settings) When pausing between loud music, do you hear any white noise, machine noise, hiss etc.?
4) What is your S3 model? (i9300?) and what OS version.
themadproducer said:
1) You have a usb cable or dock that comes out the bottom of your S3, and it splits into USB for charging....and 3.5mm for audio? (NOT THE HEADPHONE OUT)
Is it a cable or dock and would you mind tell me the name of it?
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I've used the Samsung Infuse and also iBolt docks. Both have the split USB cable for charging & 3.mm audio.
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2) What do you plug the audio into?
- stock car audio input
- front aux input on a car deck stereo system (stock/aftermarket)
- rear aux inputs to aftermarket stereo
- other?
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I use the front AUX input on my JVC car stereo.
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3) with the steareo turned up fairly loud, but no music playing, do you hear any noise when you click buttons (assuming you have audio enabled for button clicks in Android settings) When pausing between loud music, do you hear any white noise, machine noise, hiss etc.?
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I don't remember any noise when clicking buttons?
But we're talking about AUX input which is analog, so when you turn the volume up with no music playing, you'll always hear some "soft" occasional clicks & hiss.
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4) What is your S3 model? (i9300?) and what OS version.
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AT&T GS3 with various ICS ROM's. I don't use AUX anymore because my favorite ROM (AOKP) doesn't have audio out capability when docked.
CZ Eddie said:
I've used the Samsung Infuse and also iBolt docks. Both have the split USB cable for charging & 3.mm audio.
I use the front AUX input on my JVC car stereo.
I don't remember any noise when clicking buttons?
But we're talking about AUX input which is analog, so when you turn the volume up with no music playing, you'll always hear some "soft" occasional clicks & hiss.
AT&T GS3 with various ICS ROM's. I don't use AUX anymore because my favorite ROM (AOKP) doesn't have audio out capability when docked.
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Thanks for replying Eddie. I am so sick of this troubleshooting this crap sometimes. I am very happy with the S3. It is a giant leap forward from my HD2...in most ways...but not all. I am suspecting the USB audio out on my S3 has a defect.
Right now, in the car, I have resigned to using the USB for power and the Headphone jack for audio send to the AUX input of my Sony car stereo on a custom wired Ibolt docking cradle. I still get some PROCESSOR noise when pressing the buttons but it is about 5% of the intensity of using the stock wired Ibolt, or KiDiGi desktop dock...or my hand wired Ycable. Without the USB charging wired up, there is NO NOISE whatsoever with either method.
Digital Output
Reading many threads last night, I discovered that with some roms/kernels, it is also possible to output pure DIGITAL audio from the S3 USB port into a select number of little affordable boutique like amps which decode and amplify the audio and power spkrs and headphones.
My first S3 had some weird noise when using bluetooth. So I drove over to my local corporate AT&T store and let them know. They walked out to my car with a demo S3 and we tested it and it didn't have any noise at all. So they swapped out my phone for a new one and I've been happy ever since.
Maybe you could try that?
Regarding boutique amps... this guy in one of my threads was talking about that. I didn't understand half of what he said.
http://www.diymobileaudio.com/forum...h-compatible-car-stereo-deck.html#post1674875
CZ Eddie said:
My first S3 had some weird noise when using bluetooth. So I drove over to my local corporate AT&T store and let them know. They walked out to my car with a demo S3 and we tested it and it didn't have any noise at all. So they swapped out my phone for a new one and I've been happy ever since.
Maybe you could try that?
Regarding boutique amps... this guy in one of my threads was talking about that. I didn't understand half of what he said.
http://www.diymobileaudio.com/forum...h-compatible-car-stereo-deck.html#post1674875
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Yup that's it. There are a few examples on youtube. Interesting how it's this TRADE SECRET feature. I mean, I have not seen this advertised anywhere and the places on the net where I found examples....the guys talk about it as if it's this common well known feature. Apparently, next to having one of these setups, the Iphone4 has the the best rating for sound/volume/curve output...almost neck to neck with a dedicated DAC...I think they call it!
I bet if I spent another $100+ bucks for one of these amps, and ran it in my car through a power Inverter (12v to 110v inverter), that I could run the Digital signal out without the interference of my USB analogue out issue. But, I am past that now.
Thanks for your input Eddie!
DAC direct solved this problem for me with Siyah Kernel.
This also happens when you are charged with a car charger and using the line out.
Sent from my GT-I9300
Arkanius said:
DAC direct solved this problem for me with Siyah Kernel.
This also happens when you are charged with a car charger and using the line out.
Sent from my GT-I9300
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Arkanius...are you saying...
1) You had the same terrible noise when charging in a car.... with usb audio analogue into aux input of car stereo?
2) and that you hooked up a DAC to resolve the car noise issue? If yes, would you mind sharing the DAC model with us and the cable used?
Although I may be digging up an old thread, it may be worth looking into (Currently majoring in Electrical Engineering and having completed two signal analysis classes).
themadproducer, were you able to get a spectrum output of the noise? If it just a set of static frequencies, a cascading array of notch filters may work out
EDIT: reading your mention of the USB charging, its quite possible that if the voltage converter is of cheap quality, the transistors involved in the voltage conversion from 12.0-14.0 Volts DC down to ~5.0 Volts DC may be giving off Radio Frequency noise, with the noise being picked by the audio cable due to physical proximity, akin to cross-talking in network cables ( a form of mutual inductance)
Has anyone figured out if you can use the phone as an "external DAC", use the ESS DAC but in a "line-out" mode for connection to a stereo via analog cable to their stereo line inputs? I tried using it normally, and the DAC showed as enabled, but the quality was not as impressive as I had hoped (in comparison to my Marantz UD5007 when playing a standard red book CD via it's analog output to the same input on my stereo).
thanks!
TinCanFury said:
Has anyone figured out if you can use the phone as an "external DAC", use the ESS DAC but in a "line-out" mode for connection to a stereo via analog cable to their stereo line inputs? I tried using it normally, and the DAC showed as enabled, but the quality was not as impressive as I had hoped (in comparison to my Marantz UD5007 when playing a standard red book CD via it's analog output to the same input on my stereo).
thanks!
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What kind of cable did you plug in? LG set it up to limit the DAC based on the cable plugged in, I'm assuming they did this as most users probably use earbuds and the DAC at full power would probably damage most earbuds. And I've found in my car, plugging the aux cable in when its not plugged into anything enables the DAC at full power. I didn't discover this, some on headfi did.
I'm using a 3.5mm to stereo RCA cable into the line inputs on my stereo. The phone shows the HiFi DAC as being enabled but it is not in Hi Gain mode, and I get the HiFi volume adjustment levels when I change the volume. So basically the same as when I use it with my IER's, but not Hi Gain mode like when I plug in my Sennheiser HD580's. Which is fine, but I'm wondering if I can bypass the amp while still using the better DAC.
thanks!
Some of you may agree but some may disagree. The audio output of the 3.5mm headphone jack is far to quiet.
A cheap and easy solution to this is I bought the USB-C to 3.5mm DAC from HTC. Join the HTC club and it was £5.95 with free next day delivery.
Much louder and very good quality. Can't find any specification on what BIT the DAC is and I don't have the tools to measure it but its far better than the build in 3.5mm jack.
http://shop.eu.htc.com/store/htcemea/en_GB/pd/productID.5093216900/parentCategoryID.70508500/
I've got tinnitus in my right ear from constantly having a headphone in it for a number of years. I used to always listen on the loudest volume. With the xperia xz you can have active noise cancelling headphones, I can warmly recommend the nc31em in ear, I bought a pair for 15 bucks and it uses the processor of the phone so you don't have to carry a big dongle. Now I can listen at half volume and still hear everything better than I did before!
I received a Griffin iTrip Clip Bluetooth headphone adapter so I could be wire free from my phone and found this improved the loudness and remained good quality audio. You may get a bit of breakage occasionally if multitasking but for £14 from Amazon, it's a cracking piece of kit!
Fantastic solution
I have followed the steps of signing up for HTC Club, and ordering the adapter straight away. It really came next day with no extra charge for delivery. And oh boy, the sound is amazing! I am bit of geek when it comes to headphones, so i have a multiple different types. The difference between using the audio jack output of the phone and using the usb c adapter is NIGHT and DAY. Not only loudness is incomparable higher, the pure quality of the sound is improved in every way. I do not believe that there is DAC hidden in the adapter, as it is quite small and low priced. What makes difference in my opinion is the additional power phone can send to the headphones by using the USB C out. Difference is so big, that this workaround can be seen as hidden features to extent, as Sony has not said a thing about using your USB C out for audio. Now I truly understand why the removal of headphone jack make sense as even phones with not the best DAC and AMP can produce great sound thanks to power of USB C.
In case of Sony Xperia XZ however, it looks as DAC is of a top- notch quality(it officially supports Hi-Res codecs after all) but the AMP is criminally under-powered and so combined with Sony obeying EU regulations for safe listening volume converts to quality sound but on quiet side. But thanks to this adapter the DAC is no longer tied to volume level set by headphone jack.
Everyone who owns this phone must buy this, especially considering the low price of the adapter. You need hear it to believe it.
jms.flynn said:
Some of you may agree but some may disagree. The audio output of the 3.5mm headphone jack is far to quiet.
A cheap and easy solution to this is I bought the USB-C to 3.5mm DAC from HTC. Join the HTC club and it was £5.95 with free next day delivery.
Much louder and very good quality. Can't find any specification on what BIT the DAC is and I don't have the tools to measure it but its far better than the build in 3.5mm jack.
http://shop.eu.htc.com/store/htcemea/en_GB/pd/productID.5093216900/parentCategoryID.70508500/
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I was on another trip recently and one scheduled for next week. Indeed the sound out of the headphone jack is extremely low so I ordered one of these gadgets and will arrive on Friday. The success from others is what I expect to gain and will report back
USB Type C to 3.5mm Earphone Headphone Cable Adapter USB-C to 3.5mm Jack Aux Cable for Letv 2 2pro max2 Pro 3 Xiaomi 6
http://s.aliexpress.com/UnmURNbM
(from AliExpress Android)
Efe64 said:
USB Type C to 3.5mm Earphone Headphone Cable Adapter USB-C to 3.5mm Jack Aux Cable for Letv 2 2pro max2 Pro 3 Xiaomi 6
http://s.aliexpress.com/UnmURNbM
(from AliExpress Android)
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Hello i bought thi product but isn't working for me do i need to do something else or just plugging in ??
RedJHoN said:
Hello i bought thi product but isn't working for me do i need to do something else or just plugging in ??
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Its not working for me too...using the xaomi dongle
Just asking is they a way of updating the dongle without having a htc device I've installed the audio usb jack toolkit from htc but nothing seems to happen
Thanks
Thank you so much for this. The low earphone volume was driving me mad. So after reading this, I bought the same thing from HTC and it works fantastically and sounds amazing now.
Is is working also on oreo latest update?
triggaz said:
Is is working also on oreo latest update?
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Yes works fine with Oreo.
Two kinds of USBC to 3.5mm Adapters, beware.
Just so folks know, there are two types of USB-C 3.5mm adapters out there - Digital and Analog.
All decent phones should support the Digital adapters, since they are just USB Audio Class devices made small. You could also plug them into a PC. Because they contain the DAC and amplifier, they will be spendy.
However, the $2 Passive adapters have no DAC in them. They trigger a special mode of the phone that basically puts the USB-C jack into an analog 3.5mm mode and the rest is just plastic and metal. The DAC is in the phone. The phone has to specifically support this mode, and will likely indicate USB-C Analog Accessory Mode in their specifications. Xperia XZ Premium does NOT support this mode, and never will - it has to be built into the hardware.
Just sayin.
FirmwareGuy said:
Just so folks know, there are two types of USB-C 3.5mm adapters out there - Digital and Analog.
All decent phones should support the Digital adapters, since they are just USB Audio Class devices made small. You could also plug them into a PC. Because they contain the DAC and amplifier, they will be spendy.
However, the $2 Passive adapters have no DAC in them. They trigger a special mode of the phone that basically puts the USB-C jack into an analog 3.5mm mode and the rest is just plastic and metal. The DAC is in the phone. The phone has to specifically support this mode, and will likely indicate USB-C Analog Accessory Mode in their specifications. Xperia XZ Premium does NOT support this mode, and never will - it has to be built into the hardware.
Just sayin.
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how come some people heard a huge difference in audio quality?
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jms.flynn said:
Some of you may agree but some may disagree. The audio output of the 3.5mm headphone jack is far to quiet.
A cheap and easy solution to this is I bought the USB-C to 3.5mm DAC from HTC. Join the HTC club and it was £5.95 with free next day delivery.
Much louder and very good quality. Can't find any specification on what BIT the DAC is and I don't have the tools to measure it but its far better than the build in 3.5mm jack.
http://shop.eu.htc.com/store/htcemea/en_GB/pd/productID.5093216900/parentCategoryID.70508500/
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htc website doesnt ship to my region
where else can I buy it from?
madshark2009 said:
how come some people heard a huge difference in audio quality?
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Because people are trying different USB Audio headphones. Sony is not in control of their quality or amplification since the DAC and amp are in the headphones. For those using different 3.5mm headsets, their quality varies greatly. Sony expects folks to buy theirs, preferably with their active noise canceling that they wrote software for. It works well but as stated, they are not very loud.
-FG
FirmwareGuy said:
Because people are trying different USB Audio headphones. Sony is not in control of their quality or amplification since the DAC and amp are in the headphones. For those using different 3.5mm headsets, their quality varies greatly. Sony expects folks to buy theirs, preferably with their active noise canceling that they wrote software for. It works well but as stated, they are not very loud.
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ok so I have an audio system in my car, and volume in headphones gets super low compared to CD (I know CD quality is the best you can get i think) but still its VERY very low compared to it, in aux on 13db I get same loudness as 7db in CD, which means I have to turn it on almost twice as much as a cd to hear same loudness, (why dont I simply turn my audio more than usual on a cd?) because I like listening to very loud music and I some times get to 23db on a cd and its very loud and on aux i must reach at least 40db to get close to being as loud but my audio system only supports up to 30db so I am getting aux loudness of 15-16db compared to CD.
will the usb 3.0 to AUX DAC help me get louder volume?
I have enable dts stereo sound but its not turning on. It says connect an audio device. What to do ?
is this a joke? plug something into the headphone jack, like headphones or speakers, or connect to bluetooth audio.
bbot3k said:
is this a joke? plug something into the headphone jack, like headphones or speakers, or connect to bluetooth audio.
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What do you mean? Its not play on mobile speaker?
Then why I need this. Still I had dac option...lol
Are you sure about that?
I've seen a couple of your posts and can't shake off the feeling that you're just trolling here. Anyway, yes, quad dac and DTS work only with an audio device connected.