So, I have a major problem, currently I'm on CM12.1, Latest build by lokjianming, but pretty much all of my games are running bad? Like, it's struggling to keep up, although it should easily be able to cope on this modern phone, stuff like Temple run 2 and Osmos HD, they're all stupidly choppy! I need help.
GlaciaDDF said:
I need help.
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Return to Global stable 7.0.12.0. Very good game's perfomanse here
GlaciaDDF said:
So, I have a major problem, currently I'm on CM12.1, Latest build by lokjianming, but pretty much all of my games are running bad? Like, it's struggling to keep up, although it should easily be able to cope on this modern phone, stuff like Temple run 2 and Osmos HD, they're all stupidly choppy! I need help.
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sadly, imo there is no other stable gaming rom than MIUI for redmi note 2 (until now)
just reflash to MIUI, and you wont get disappointed
Unfortunately, very bad optimization of apps and games. The same problem on htc e9 and meizu mx5, they too have mtk6795. We must wait. Someone says "deal with it"
(sorry for my eng plz, i'm ukrainian)
Im running Miui and playing need for speed no limite run fine for me without lags.
If you buy a 2 Chevaux or Fiat 500 you want get performance of a Mercedes or Bmw !!!
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If you buy a 2 Chevaux or Fiat 500 you want get performance of a Mercedes or Bmw !!!
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but this phone has the power. im gaming fine even with cpu underclocked
its his unstable rom causing problems
Just take it easy, this phone was released 4 months ago, and we have CM builds !! Honestly I never excpect to have them this quick, we just have to wait for developers to deal with MTK and its mistical source code.
This the latest (leak) china rom stable: http://bigota.d.miui.com/V7.1.1.0.LHMCNCK/miui_HMNote2_V7.1.1.0.LHMCNCK_dc250ba711_5.0.zip
Working very very well, fast and smooth, for a moment the best rom i tried (I tried all roms, cm, aosp, miui, international, china, russian...)
andy82711 said:
but this phone has the power. im gaming fine even with cpu underclocked
its his unstable rom causing problems
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I have zero issues with the same cm 12.1. ROM and all heavy 3d games run flawless here. So why do you talk crap about his ROM and it being unstable when it's not? Also it does actually @ludoke have the power of a Mercedes to be honest. Lol. I am very surprised about its "power" tbh.
Try to while your dalvik and cache and see if that helps.
I also DLL the temple run because i dont play it, but it worked fine here. No stuttering or problems so something else must be causing it I reckon.
The only problem I have with games is battery draining but performance is ok. I have 0 lag or fc on bule's CM.
The Helio X10 has a pretty bad gpu. Similar to the old Snapdragon 600 or S4 Pro.
If you want to play games, then get something with the Snapdragon 801 like the infocus m810t. Or the Mi 4c with the Snapdragon 808.
For the next 1 year I need to use this but its the last time I buy a device with miui stock.. I hate the closed source and bad too for mediatek..
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Hi every!
a friend of mine gave me his X10 cuz he had many problems with it, mainly it was slow.
now the most important thing for him is games and speed (mainly touch responsiveness)
one of the games he wants to play is Assassin Creed, I saw a video on Youtube of someone playing this game and he uses TW ROM,
when i try to flash that ROM on my friend's device in boots and then few secs later restarts, over and over.
i cant figure why it happens, as im using the right BB. help!
besides this, i tried many other ROMs, but Assassin Creed worked on neither of them, i would think that this game is not meant to run on this device but i saw that Youtube video...
last thing, i loaded EWJET ROM, was amazing, everything was really fast and touch was really responsive compared to stock and other roms, but in quadrant it got only 1000 pt, while in TripNMIUI ROM it got 1500 pt, even tho it felt much slower and less responsive.
why is that?
Thanks!!!
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last thing, i loaded EWJET ROM, was amazing, everything was really fast and touch was really responsive compared to stock and other roms, but in quadrant it got only 1000 pt, while in TripNMIUI ROM it got 1500 pt, even tho it felt much slower and less responsive.
why is that?
Thanks!!!
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I think just there, you solved your own problem.
Is Quadrant that important to your friend?
Does he want a fast phone for gaming
or a phone that scores high in Quandrant?
The thing with Quadrant is that even though is commonly used,
it's easily "cheatable" and bottom line is, it should be used as a reference
and not as an evaluation point for user experience.
Oh well, I thought that quadrant measures FPS which basically tells you how well games will run, but then, high FPS with ****ed up touch is pointless...
Thanks for your answer
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Oh well, I thought that quadrant measures FPS which basically tells you how well games will run, but then, high FPS with ****ed up touch is pointless...
Thanks for your answer
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It does measure FPS but it's only a part of the tests conducted,
so the results do not mean anything FPS-wise.
And FPS are kernel-related, indepedent of custom ROMs,
so you could try using Z's latest kernel that raises the FPS to about 48-50 max.
Thanks very much for your help, I am actually using zkernel which is really good...
so i guess no idea why the restart loop happens, or anything about games compatibility.
anyway, u made me wounder... you said that i can use zkernel...
is there a way to flash only kernel to use with specific ROM? or that isnt a good idea/possible at all.
Update:
At the end I loaded MIUI ROM 1.7.01 with zKernelbb67
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1152555
pretty good ROM, runs pretty good, with it i installed chainfire3D from the market, and now all the games are working pretty good, so everything sorted out.
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Update:
At the end I loaded MIUI ROM 1.7.01 with zKernelbb67
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1152555
pretty good ROM, runs pretty good, with it i installed chainfire3D from the market, and now all the games are working pretty good, so everything sorted out.
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Glad you sorted it out! I also use MIUI with the zkernel overclocked and games run really smooth!
Then again I mostly play Cut The Rope and Angry Birds (2D games)! LOL!
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Hi guys, the game works fine for a couple of mins, until the phone starts heating and well , it starts lagginggggg. Multiplayer works fine, but single player is just killing me. Problems only occur when phone starts to warm up. Anyone facing this issue?
More info : Strafing and scrolling "view" seems to be lagging, as though frame-rate just dropped or something. I've reinstalled and uninstalled, downloaded data and still, the same outcome. Multiplayer is as smooth as
Please tell me this isnt just meeee
im alone?????
Ive only played the first mission. it does not lag or overheat like you mention,although i do notice the frames drop in some areas becoming slightly laggy.online gaming is great.i hate that the game crashes and restarts sometimes in online play
Have some apps running in the background?
I also experience UHT moment when i play gameloft games.. but theres no continuous lag, only stutters on some area..
You may also need to check that your governor wasn't on conservative..
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Got no framerate issue here. Try looking for a newer version.
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Got no framerate issue here. Try looking for a newer version.
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Gorjess said:
Have some apps running in the background?
I also experience UHT moment when i play gameloft games.. but theres no continuous lag, only stutters on some area..
You may also need to check that your governor wasn't on conservative..
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Ive only played the first mission. it does not lag or overheat like you mention,although i do notice the frames drop in some areas becoming slightly laggy.online gaming is great.i hate that the game crashes and restarts sometimes in online play
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Hmm, im on the latest version. 1.0.1. What im getting is the BLURISH effect when scrolling views. Im pretty sure its a framerate drop. Ive got MC3 running alone, no background apps. Its literally killing me. Ive tried 5 different kernels, and Im sure im not overclocking or underclocking the cpu. Im using stock rom though. Would cyanogenmod help improve the gameplay? Any good roms that still preserve the samsung qwerty keyboard?
I have this issue too. I have a Samsung Galaxy SII GT-I9100, Noble Black, 2.3.5, stock ROM, kernel XWKJ1 (also stock), NO ROOT
At some point (fire or many trees or something) the game is lowering the FPS. I didn't noticed that for example on Sensation XL (which has 1.5 singlecore and even higher screen resolution than my phone has) and i didn't saw a single lag.
I made a video about this problem and posted it on youtube here it is:
I suppose this problem is related to my stock ROM or even my stock kernel... something similar is happening with backstab but there it's not that annoying since it's not a FPS game
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I have this issue too. I have a Samsung Galaxy SII GT-I9100, Noble Black, 2.3.5, stock ROM, kernel XWKJ1 (also stock), NO ROOT
At some point (fire or many trees or something) the game is lowering the FPS. I didn't noticed that for example on Sensation XL (which has 1.5 singlecore and even higher screen resolution than my phone has) and i didn't saw a single lag.
I made a video about this problem and posted it on youtube here it is:
I suppose this problem is related to my stock ROM or even my stock kernel... something similar is happening with backstab but there it's not that annoying since it's not a FPS game
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YES YES Im not alone. Thats the problem. I wonder if its due to the stock rom...
Got the game no issue here. im rooted on slimrom with siyah kernel, not overclocked but undervolted so it doesnt heat up so much. Fyi shadow gun is a really good game as well
looks like an iphone but powered by android baby!!!!
No issues here.
Well,it even happens on my device,which is overclocked,both the CPU(1600MHz) and the GPU(400MHz).It seems to only happen when there is smoke on the screen.Doesn't happen in any other case.
Feel like flashing a new rom. Gonna get a usb jig first...
Btw, any roms to recommend?
@androidkid:slimrom running touchwiz?
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I have this issue too. I have a Samsung Galaxy SII GT-I9100, Noble Black, 2.3.5, stock ROM, kernel XWKJ1 (also stock), NO ROOT
At some point (fire or many trees or something) the game is lowering the FPS. I didn't noticed that for example on Sensation XL (which has 1.5 singlecore and even higher screen resolution than my phone has) and i didn't saw a single lag.
I made a video about this problem and posted it on youtube here it is:
I suppose this problem is related to my stock ROM or even my stock kernel... something similar is happening with backstab but there it's not that annoying since it's not a FPS game
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Because it has another much weaker GPU, therefore it has much lower graphical quality settings. It's like playing on Low and the GSII on very high.
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Because it has another much weaker GPU, therefore it has much lower graphical quality settings. It's like playing on Low and the GSII on very high.
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Well,even if it is so,it's unacceptable,as it's definitely a fault on Gameloft's part.The game is,once again like other Gameloft titles,more or less badly coded.It uses too much GPU.I can play ShadowGun with 16x MSAA(Using CF3D) for hours and the phone just gets warm,while I can't play MC3 for nearly as long and the device burns.Before anyone tries to say that it's because MC3 has so super awesome graphics,it's not the cause.Our GPU doesn't overheat,even when overclocked.Excessive heat is only generated by the CPU.So,try playing ShadowGun and MC3 with 500MHz or 800MHz CPU.ShadowGun still plays as awesome as before,while MC3 lags.
We should contact Gameloft me thinks...
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Well,it even happens on my device,which is overclocked,both the CPU(1600MHz) and the GPU(400MHz).It seems to only happen when there is smoke on the screen.Doesn't happen in any other case.
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Well,even if it is so,it's unacceptable,as it's definitely a fault on Gameloft's part.The game is,once again like other Gameloft titles,more or less badly coded.It uses too much GPU.I can play ShadowGun with 16x MSAA(Using CF3D) for hours and the phone just gets warm,while I can't play MC3 for nearly as long and the device burns.Before anyone tries to say that it's because MC3 has so super awesome graphics,it's not the cause.Our GPU doesn't overheat,even when overclocked.Excessive heat is only generated by the CPU.So,try playing ShadowGun and MC3 with 500MHz or 800MHz CPU.ShadowGun still plays as awesome as before,while MC3 lags.
We should contact Gameloft me thinks...
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Contacted gameloft 3 weeks ago. Said they would look into the problem. Lets just wait for the net update to roll out
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Contacted gameloft 3 weeks ago. Said they would look into the problem. Lets just wait for the net update to roll out
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Yeah...Ok,so what's the next best game you said?
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Car drive
Try the map where your using a minigun and escaping with a truck/car (dont remember the map name)
the fps drops from stable 60 to under 20 impossible to, win the level through with hard
Hmm which governor are you using? i just know that lulzactive is kinda bad if it comes to gaming. try out some stock governors like ondemand, conservative or performance.
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Hmm which governor are you using? i just know that lulzactive is kinda bad if it comes to gaming. try out some stock governors like ondemand, conservative or performance.
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Tried all, only choice is to run stock rom, like cm7... Btw guys, if I use chainfire and download the game under "Adreno", would it work
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Yeah...Ok,so what's the next best game you said?
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Now play GTA3.
I've been playing nova on my htc one x as well as transformer prime, problem is it gets laggy in some areas with full effects chainfire fix (no chainfire means no effects but no lag) however my gs3 plays it fine with chainfire and A 200 quid chinese tablet with dual core rockchip and quad mali400 with chainfire plays it full effects no lag???!!! And to help you understand this the antutu score on chinese tablet is 7560 and all tegra devices are just over 12500 so wtf?! I'm just so annoyed,
All devices running clean rooted ics no mods or tweaks only interactive governor
My nexus 7 plays nova3 with no lag at all...full effects
Plays fine on my prime also. No lag, full effects.
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Plays fine on my prime also. No lag, full effects.
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ditto here.
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Don't give us this bull****... Yes it may play without problem but it's not fully smooth. Runs like a 24 fps movie. Hell the loading times are abysmal. Demandarin I respect you for all the work you've done for us and how positive you've been but don't go as far as lying.... I should be able to run this game on my supposed top of the line tablet with a quad core processor without modifying anything at all. Yet I can't. Game experiences on this tablet have been horrible even with Tegra 3 optimized games.
Sorry if I'm coming out strong but I'm damned tired of this. I have to rma my tablet again just to be able to ota update. Really? Really? Can't even unlock for goodness sakes...
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thanks deadlocked, i thought i was going crazy here and ive been reading the forums of other users complaining. without tweaking anything llike going into development settings max 1 process kill all processes is a temp fix but it doesnt work that well, i shouldnt have to do all that, not sure why a cheap chinese tablet can do this yet an expensive tablet with tegra 3 cant get it right?
i respect the recognized developer above but i thought he was winding me up there as a developer of all people should know there are issues
question now is what can be done, why is this issue even here, how do we resolve this
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thanks deadlocked, i thought i was going crazy here and ive been reading the forums of other users complaining. without tweaking anything llike going into development settings max 1 process kill all processes is a temp fix but it doesnt work that well, i shouldnt have to do all that, not sure why a cheap chinese tablet can do this yet an expensive tablet with tegra 3 cant get it right?
i respect the recognized developer above but i thought he was winding me up there as a developer of all people should know there are issues
question now is what can be done, why is this issue even here, how do we resolve this
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He isn't a dev.... & well.. I'll end there.
As for Tegra 3 ULP Geforce GPU (with 8 spectacular cores)... it isn't a powerhouse GPU. It lacks raw power compared to Mali 400 (and basically all other GPUs)... however, it does have those "oozing" special effects that Nvidia patented.
Also, with single I/O memory controller... with the lack of bandwidth being channeled through during GRAPHIC intensive games... it can have some "FPS" issues.
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Don't give us this bull****... Yes it may play without problem but it's not fully smooth. Runs like a 24 fps movie. Hell the loading times are abysmal. Demandarin I respect you for all the work you've done for us and how positive you've been but don't go as far as lying.... I should be able to run this game on my supposed top of the line tablet with a quad core processor without modifying anything at all. Yet I can't. Game experiences on this tablet have been horrible even with Tegra 3 optimized games.
Sorry if I'm coming out strong but I'm damned tired of this. I have to rma my tablet again just to be able to ota update. Really? Really? Can't even unlock for goodness sakes...
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What's to lie about? Nova3 and all other games do play fine on my Nexus 7. The framerate not slow either. Like I said, it plays great on my NEXUS 7. now for Prime, Nova3 seems to like to crash on mines. So as of now, I honestly don't know how it plays on my prime. But I do have it for my Nexus 7. Even with full effects, nexus 7 handles it with ease. Prime has software shortcomings that is likely what you are experiencing. Plus you have to REMEMBER THIS, EVERYONE PRIME BEHAVES DIFFERENTLY. SO IF THE NEXT MAN SAYS THE GAME WORKS FINE ON HIS PRIME, THEN YOU HAVE TO TAKE HIS WORD FOR IT. IF YOU DONT, PEOPLE WONT BELIEVE YOU EITHER. JUST LIKE NOT EVERYONE PRIME BEHAVES THE SAME AFTER AN UPDATE.
PEOPLE NEED TO STOP ASSUMING THAT JUST BECAUSE YOUR DEVICE SEEMS to Run the game slower, everyone else's must also. PEOPLE ASSUME TO DAMN MUCH UP HERE. These devices are not all the same, unfortunately.
I have to agee with demandarim. I have a prime with 0 wifi issues, unlike most.. also I have mine rooted and clocked to 1.6ghz, also with no issues at all.. Since alot of people have issues with those I agree that no two prime are 100% equil
And if it runs well on other Tegra3 devices like the Nexus 7 .. Then it might be a issues with the Asus software.
I know were not even on a 3.x.x kernel yet.. we have 2.6.39.4.. even that might be an issue..
There is a lot of reasons youre's might be slow.. You can wait for Asus to release new firmware that might resolve you're issues, or you can load a custom rom, that is useing different firmware for you're hardware that is more based around performance.
Everyone here is willing to take there Desktop PC, load the latest drivers for there screencard or what ever, imagen you had to wait for a new release to update the driver? Like complaining Ubuntu 10.2 is craps compared to Ubuntu 11.1cause it doesn't run well on you're Alienware Desktop.. No.. you update the it... cause it fixes it! So if you would update you're out of the box Desktop for 25 more FPS, then THATS WHY WE BOUGHT ANDROID AND NOT APPEL... cause with a little tweaking its better..
appel is like flying business class.. its just fine.. Android/linux is like flying first class, you just get the bolts and spanner on you way in to fasten your seat.. so with a little tweak is better, or you fail to tighten the bolts, and then you complain on XDA forums
I think you should also remember that your chinese tablet has an 800x480 screen, not 1280x800. That's a HUGE different in pixel count, so a slower/cheaper SOC can easily push 30+ frames a second to that screen.
Its just like all other Gameloft games, they are not optimized at all to run with QuadCores or Tegra3 devices. Order and Chaos has the same issues, it doesn't have mind blowing effects and still runs at 24ish fps. Hell even Asphalt 6 doesn't feel like running at 60 fps. While other games with far, far better graphics run smooth like butter even when connected to the TV.
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I think you should also remember that your chinese tablet has an 800x480 screen, not 1280x800. That's a HUGE different in pixel count, so a slower/cheaper SOC can easily push 30+ frames a second to that screen.
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chinese tabet is 1280x800 so its not any less,
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chinese tabet is 1280x800 so its not any less,
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Really? Which one do you have?
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Really? Which one do you have?
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latest Window N101 it also has a chinese name yuanduo n101 or something like that, for 200 bones its a good deal, capacitive multi touch 10 point ips screen, ics 4.0.4. rooted etc. hd screen and plays 720p files smoothly, not tested 1080p it has a dual core rockchip 3066 and quad core mali 400 gpu tablet itself is really nice, i thought the asus would have have performed better than the cheap chinese one, but obviously not in this case, its probably gameloft being lazy and not optimizing for tegra as all tegra games run really smooth even in high activity scenes, large environments, etc.
still peed off thogh
just figured i'd chime in again (because of the controversy,lol)...
i was running androwook 2.1 with motley's lite kernel, o'ced to 1.8
the last time i checked out NOVA3(actually the only time i played it).
i went through a couple of levels and didn't have any issues on my Prime.
lately, i have been running team EOS Jelly Bean, and benchmarks have been down,
even from stock ROM, so i haven't tried to run it lately.
i have been playing Riptide GP tho, and it is still smokin fast!
Since upgrading to JB and updating Dead Trigger, I have only noticed one hiccup right when loading a level, and then no more lag through the rest of the level. Before the update and on ICS the game lagged like crazy for the first 30 seconds then finally cleared up. I'm not sure which one fixed it, but perhaps you should check out the JB rom as well...
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I have to agee with demandarim. I have a prime with 0 wifi issues, unlike most.. also I have mine rooted and clocked to 1.6ghz, also with no issues at all.. Since alot of people have issues with those I agree that no two prime are 100% equil
And if it runs well on other Tegra3 devices like the Nexus 7 .. Then it might be a issues with the Asus software.
I know were not even on a 3.x.x kernel yet.. we have 2.6.39.4.. even that might be an issue..
There is a lot of reasons youre's might be slow.. You can wait for Asus to release new firmware that might resolve you're issues, or you can load a custom rom, that is useing different firmware for you're hardware that is more based around performance.
Everyone here is willing to take there Desktop PC, load the latest drivers for there screencard or what ever, imagen you had to wait for a new release to update the driver? Like complaining Ubuntu 10.2 is craps compared to Ubuntu 11.1cause it doesn't run well on you're Alienware Desktop.. No.. you update the it... cause it fixes it! So if you would update you're out of the box Desktop for 25 more FPS, then THATS WHY WE BOUGHT ANDROID AND NOT APPEL... cause with a little tweaking its better..
appel is like flying business class.. its just fine.. Android/linux is like flying first class, you just get the bolts and spanner on you way in to fasten your seat.. so with a little tweak is better, or you fail to tighten the bolts, and then you complain on XDA forums
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1. Linux Kernel 3.1.1 vs 2.6.39.4 hardly matters.....
Perhaps you didn't know but Linux Kernel 3+ is really 2.6.40 but Linus Torvald simply renamed it to Linux Kernel 3.0...
The changes between the two kernel is minimal (of course, higher is always better in theory.. but here... it is extremely minimal)
If people want to discuss kernel & drivers..... and need someone to blame for multiple issues we have currently... look towards Nvidia FIRST & Asus 2nd (Asus is customer of Nvidia... and they are binded to their work.. sadly)
2. Tegra 3 SoC... no matter how much.. umm.. someone tells you... IS NOT A POWER SoC. It focuses mainly on battery performance (thus the 4+1 technology)... although.. sadly, it doesn't really perform that well in this category either if you look at smartphone sector (S4 HTC One X > Tegra 3 HTC One X).
Anyways, especially with single I/O memory controller, poor kernel/driver integration by Nvidia & Asus (this is assumption), and not very powerful GPU (yes, in terms of raw power... Tegra 3 is crap compared to other GPUs)..... IT CAN HAVE ISSUES during Graphic Intensive Games. IT CAN... as in... if we take Prime for example.... it behaves very radically from device to device.... thus... some will be unfortunate & some very fortunate.
3. I doubt Google wants Android to be portrayed as "tweaker" device. Google's trying their hardest to appeal to the mass public with Nexus 7..... Btw, all the updates & etc you speak of with Desktop.... going from Ubuntu 10.2 to Ubuntu 11.1 are OFFICIAL support. Custom ROMs are not....
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Don't give us this bull****... Yes it may play without problem but it's not fully smooth. Runs like a 24 fps movie. Hell the loading times are abysmal. Demandarin I respect you for all the work you've done for us and how positive you've been but don't go as far as lying.... I should be able to run this game on my supposed top of the line tablet with a quad core processor without modifying anything at all. Yet I can't. Game experiences on this tablet have been horrible even with Tegra 3 optimized games.
Sorry if I'm coming out strong but I'm damned tired of this. I have to rma my tablet again just to be able to ota update. Really? Really? Can't even unlock for goodness sakes...
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This. I couldnt agree more. I was looking for NOVA 3 lag fixes on my Nexus 7 and came across similar posts stating how smooth the game is. It's not smooth. The frame rate is ****. Seems like all of Gamelofts recent titles, lag to hell on Tegra 3. (Amazing Spiderman, Modern Combat 3, Nova 3). Look at videos of Nova 3 running on the Galaxy S3. Now that is smooth.
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This. I couldnt agree more. I was looking for NOVA 3 lag fixes on my Nexus 7 and came across similar posts stating how smooth the game is. It's not smooth. The frame rate is ****. Seems like all of Gamelofts recent titles, lag to hell on Tegra 3. (Amazing Spiderman, Modern Combat 3, Nova 3). Look at videos of Nova 3 running on the Galaxy S3. Now that is smooth.
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Yup they all lag on my N7 and Prime, although there is some hope: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1780587 hopefully its true they are working on optimizations for the Tegra 3 platform.
that is bs
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My nexus 7 plays nova3 with no lag at all...full effects
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Dude that is b.s.No offence.you can't install chainfire3D,hence no full effects.TEGRA 3 DOES NOT GET FULL EFFECTS ON NOVA 3.You don't see fire and smoke on the building at the right side in the first level, before you jump off the building you crashed into.Secondly it does lag very badly especially in multiplayer,I am on 620mhz GPU overclock with 1.6ghz CPU with smoothrom 4.1 android 4.1.2
I don't know about Nova 3, but I have to agree that Wild Blood for example is not smooth at all on my Prime.
Backstab on the other hand seems much smoother.
I'll try Nova 3 and let you know. ( Using Latest Energy Rom).
Found a thread with the trick to getting Tegra 4 graphics on our Note 3's. Our device is more than capable of running this so it's BS that Madfinger and other devs do this crap. Give thanks to "lm that guy" in the original thread linked below.
Tegra 4 Graphics: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2496204
Dead Trigger 2 Download: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.madfingergames.deadtrigger2
Enjoy!!!!
nolimit06 said:
Found a thread with the trick to getting Tegra 4 graphics on our Note 3's. Our device is more than capable of running this so it's BS that Madfinger and other devs do this crap. Give thanks to "lm that guy" in the original thread linked below.
Tegra 4 Graphics: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2496204
Dead Trigger 2 Download: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.madfingergames.deadtrigger2
Enjoy!!!!
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I tried this on the Nexus 7 Grouper and it was almost perfect. You can notice very tiny lag when looking at the reflective water, so I expect that any other device out there such as the Galaxy S4 and Note 2 can run it no problems.
Crossvxm said:
I tried this on the Nexus 7 Grouper and it was almost perfect. You can notice very tiny lag when looking at the reflective water, so I expect that any other device out there such as the Galaxy S4 and Note 2 can run it no problems.
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It was unplayable laggy on my Grouper, might have been the level I was on. The N7 ROMs based on CM are a mess and don't allow custom kernels without what I consider major problems. Not sure what's going on there.
nolimit06 said:
It was unplayable laggy on my Grouper, might have been the level I was on. The N7 ROMs based on CM are a mess and don't allow custom kernels without what I consider major problems. Not sure what's going on there.
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Yup you were right depends on the level. First level plays pretty stable. Indoor levels are a disaster. The game is pretty damn optimized if it stays as stable as it does. It is playable on mine, just unpleasant to play, not a dramatic lag. I'm pretty pissed i waited all summer for this game, never released then, and now that it is it requires you to be connected to some sort of internet all the time to play. Groupers depend on wifi, i live in NYC where the best time to play is while on the buses. Buses don't have wifi?!?! How am I to play lol. And my Nexus 7 is mint but the wifi is pretty crappy compared to my girls which has some wear, so here at home even with a good connection i encounter issues playing and the loading also depends on internet believe it or not.
As for roms for the Nexus 7, go with SmoothRom 5.2. Its AOKP based instead of CM. If you've done your homework, AOKP is claimed to be glitchy, but that really doesnt apply to the Nexus 7. And SmoothRom is 99% stable, no crashes, no "Unfortunately BlaBlaBla has stopped working," no fluttering graphical glitches. The 1% instability goes to the fact that at times the stock AOSP browser's Back/Forward/Refresh buttons dissapear. Its stable for daily use. I have it installed on mine and my girls. Only con is that its still stuck on 4.2.2 but the preformance IMO exceeds 4.3 with the tweaks it has.
Kernel-wise, I use M-Kernel to reach the crazy 1.6GHz although I never really clock it that high except when testing preformance differences (it can reach 1.7GHz, the secret is it must be on a single core as NVIDIA points out on their Tegra 3). Franco Kernel gives nice battery life, but theres occasional slowdowns on the entire rom and freezes, at times complete system crashes (not sure if thats only with this rom, i know the latest updates to that kernel suddenly brought that).
So if your looking for a stable, fast, reaponsive rom for the Grouper, think SmoothRom. Kernel is up to you.
I will look in to that ROM, thanks for the heads up.
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nolimit06 said:
I will look in to that ROM, thanks for the heads up.
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No problem! You wont regret it let me know how it works out! I'm now testing this on the LG Optimus G...wish me luck!
I'm using the Root Browser in Rom Toolbox. I can edit the value in the XML, and it says it's saving, but when I go back in to the file my edit is reverted back to the original.
How can I tell visually if the ultra high graphics are actually enabled?
so i know that this phone is 4 years old. but in 2016/2017 it had a high end cpu/4gb ram(even today it has a higher antutu scores than lots of newers models). yet it feels so laggy to work on after some use, mine still has stock android. but i feel like when swaping between apps, or using them , it just feels crappy. also the phonebook behave weird, can't add phone numbers cause i get this thing ''phonebook stoped working'' , and almost all my contacts dissapeared like i deleted them. i'm not the type of person that changes phones every year,i had mine 3 years now. but i think i'm just gonna give up on this phone, and get something that gets software updates
Things get corrupted after a while, apps you've installed running in background hogging resourses, etc. Do a factory reset, or better still, flash a recent Anroid 9 or 10 rom. This phone still flies on the right rom.
Heyyo, yeah depending on your build of EUI ROM? It'll suck. Anything prior to 19s is definitely garbage. X821 19s was pretty good and same with x829 20s or x820 30s (albeit with ads). The best way to experience EUI ROM is CrisBalGreece modified versions.
Otherwise? I highly recommend custom ROMs. We have a lot of great Android 9 ROMs and Android 10 is pretty decent albeit with more bugs.
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so i know that this phone is 4 years old. but in 2016/2017 it had a high end cpu/4gb ram(even today it has a higher antutu scores than lots of newers models). yet it feels so laggy to work on after some use, mine still has stock android. but i feel like when swaping between apps, or using them , it just feels crappy. also the phonebook behave weird, can't add phone numbers cause i get this thing ''phonebook stoped working'' , and almost all my contacts dissapeared like i deleted them. i'm not the type of person that changes phones every year,i had mine 3 years now. but i think i'm just gonna give up on this phone, and get something that gets software updates
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It simply because the chipset it is using is a "bad" one..... You can see this with every Snapdragon 820 and 821 phones(Zuk Z2, Google Pixel 1(OG) etc) ... They heat up and throttle down easily = lag... on paper the 82x should be able to outperform a SD625 any day but not so in real life.... with custom ROM they are much more manageable... I think you should definitely be fine with custom ROM unless you are planning on gaming on it...
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It simply because the chipset it is using is a "bad" one..... You can see this with every Snapdragon 820 and 821 phones(Zuk Z2, Google Pixel 1(OG) etc) ... They heat up and throttle down easily = lag... on paper the 82x should be able to outperform a SD625 any day but not so in real life.... with custom ROM they are much more manageable... I think you should definitely be fine with custom ROM unless you are planning on gaming on it...
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so was the snapdragon 820 bad on all phones models not only the cheap chinese ones like i thought,only if i knew this when i bought it... to be honest, i took my abandoned xperia z3 compact from the drawer..and it moved more smoothly. indeed, i think this phone has some overheating issues.what rom do you recommend,should i stick to EUI, not a fan really to the stock eui i got,full of bugs. i have just rooted my phone now and i'm ready to instal other ROM . but there are so many options. looking at android 9 or 10 but so many variants available. i just want it to run smoothly. also , do i have to update the firmware version via twrp? i have the stock one. anyway i think i have the indian version, and the linegeOS android 10 version i wanted to install seems like it doesn't support this mode(only CN on the x820) looking at aosp 9.0 now
popoyaya said:
Things get corrupted after a while, apps you've installed running in background hogging resourses, etc. Do a factory reset, or better still, flash a recent Anroid 9 or 10 rom. This phone still flies on the right rom.
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what rom variant do you recommend? also are android 10 version stable enough or should i flash older android 9?
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so was the snapdragon 820 bad on all phones models not only the cheap chinese ones like i thought,only if i knew this when i bought it... to be honest, i took my abandoned xperia z3 compact from the drawer..and it moved more smoothly. indeed, i think this phone has some overheating issues.what rom do you recommend,should i stick to EUI, not a fan really to the stock eui i got,full of bugs. i have just rooted my phone now and i'm ready to instal other ROM . but there are so many options. looking at android 9 or 10 but so many variants available. i just want it to run smoothly. also , do i have to update the firmware version via twrp? i have the stock one. anyway i think i have the indian version, and the linegeOS android 10 version i wanted to install seems like it doesn't support this mode(only CN on the x820) looking at aosp 9.0 now
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The Xperia Z3 Compact are Snapdragon 801.... Those were great... on paper SD820 or 821 should be miles ahead in performance compared to 801 or 800... but IRL on most of the phones they usually suck... (I did saw someone swear that his Oneplus 3 ran great after getting angry because I said SD820 821 are bad chipsets... then again Oneplus 3/3T probably have a much bigger ROM community both dev and user wise)
unfortunately I also just recently took my Le Max 2 from the drawer and started fiddling with these new android 9/10 roms, I can't give much advice... I'm currently on Android 9 Lineage it's pretty stable.
Generally, you'd want custom ROM so you can remove the bloatware, install a custom kernel so you can use a kernel that better manage the chipset(battery or usagewise) and a config that might suit your usage...CMIIW
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The Xperia Z3 Compact are Snapdragon 801.... Those were great... on paper SD820 or 821 should be miles ahead in performance compared to 801 or 800... but IRL on most of the phones they usually suck... (I did saw someone swear that his Oneplus 3 ran great after getting angry because I said SD820 821 are bad chipsets... then again Oneplus 3/3T probably have a much bigger ROM community both dev and user wise)
unfortunately I also just recently took my Le Max 2 from the drawer and started fiddling with these new android 9/10 roms, I can't give much advice... I'm currently on Android 9 Lineage it's pretty stable.
Generally, you'd want custom ROM so you can remove the bloatware, install a custom kernel so you can use a kernel that better manage the chipset(battery or usagewise) and a config that might suit your usage...CMIIW
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so today i have instaled the first time a custom ROM,after struggling with twrp for 2hours . i have instaled AospExtended ROM V6.0 [X2] (adroid PIE) . it move more smoothly for sure,but not sure it moves this way beucase it's just a fresh rom..will way some weeks to see if it keeps up.
and about instaling a custom kerne . isn't that coming instaled with the ROM?
I have my device for nearly two years, and I am using eui 6.0.30s CBG cleaned edition since last year... I never face any kind of lag or bug except the lag caused by power save mod, which automatically enables itself when the battery goes down under %5. I think full wipe+reinstall firmware would be a great solution for you.
Heyyo, I definitely don't agree that 820/821 is bad lol... That's ridiculous. It's true that back in 2016 no one cared about proper cooling for the SoC though. I've seen people mod their x2 and zl1/0's with thermal pads or non-conductive thermal paste and get a heck of a lot better thermal management for just a few pennies of extra cooling.
On any pie or Q ROM though, we do have tuned thermal-engine.conf by Shiva which helps quite a bit and also allows for better sustained performance too which also performs a lot better than EUI ROM which focuses more on lower temperatures than balancing thermals and performance.
Anywho, yeah, if you're upset with performance of EUI ROM? I'd definitely recommend a custom ROM. Anything on pie that's actively maintained is a good idea.
Android 10 ROMs still sometimes have performance stutters for now... So hopefully later on it'll work better, so that's why I recommend for now sticking with pie.
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Heyyo, I definitely don't agree that 820/821 is bad lol... That's ridiculous. It's true that back in 2016 no one cared about proper cooling for the SoC though. I've seen people mod their x2 and zl1/0's with thermal pads or non-conductive thermal paste and get a heck of a lot better thermal management for just a few pennies of extra cooling.
On any pie or Q ROM though, we do have tuned thermal-engine.conf by Shiva which helps quite a bit and also allows for better sustained performance too which also performs a lot better than EUI ROM which focuses more on lower temperatures than balancing thermals and performance.
Anywho, yeah, if you're upset with performance of EUI ROM? I'd definitely recommend a custom ROM. Anything on pie that's actively maintained is a good idea.
Android 10 ROMs still sometimes have performance stutters for now... So hopefully later on it'll work better, so that's why I recommend for now sticking with pie.
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dude.. people mod their x2 and zl1/0's with thermal pads or non-conductive thermal paste and get a heck of a lot better thermal management for just a few pennies of extra cooling. .. I never had to do that on SD800/801 phones lol...
since you are very determined that its not a bad phone , I'm taking out my Le Max 2 a second time .... hehe... I occasionally play Mobile Legends.. any other tips you can give?
Nexus 5 was SD800 and was known for overheating issues
https://www.technobezz.com/fix-overheating-problem-nexus-5/
Like I said, the main thing would be to switch to a custom ROM that has Android Pie and is decently updated. Most of those pie custom ROMs will have pretty decent thermals while still delivering decent performance.