Hi ,
I am a android developer and i am learning qt/qml for ubuntu touch apps , is ubuntu touch port for nexus 6p available ? is someone building it ?
Thanks!
No that project is almost abandoned at this point don't count on too many ports even the existing ports never really worked.
I'm interested on It. I have a Oneplus TWO but a port on Nexus 6P is interesting because share the same SoC of OPT.
I am interested in Ubuntu touch on any device in the US. The Nexus 6p would be good start point for a port considering the new USB-c, 3400mah battery and other good specs. We (Ubuntu and the community) really need to focus on one good device to port every two years. Let's start with this one.. now how to get started?
*Our hardest hurdle will be getting it working on CDMA.
larrykingery said:
I am interested in Ubuntu touch on any device in the US. The Nexus 6p would be good start point for a port considering the new USB-c, 3400mah battery and other good specs. We (Ubuntu and the community) really need to focus on one good device to port every two years. Let's start with this one.. now how to get started?
*Our hardest hurdle will be getting it working on CDMA.
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Hi, start from here and go here.
ahronzombi said:
No that project is almost abandoned at this point don't count on too many ports even the existing ports never really worked.
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Yeah it did sound abandoned, but they JUST released a new ubuntu touch tablet and also demoed a functional nexus 4 running ubuntu touch, with support for external monitor / keyboard / mouse. I think the future is still strong for Ubuntu Touch, even though we might not be seeing many updates publicly
Here is a video of it from March 6th, 2016
youtube com/watch?v=-aT5LE9f5aw (can't post URLs yet )
Hi guys, so nothing news for porting for 6p?
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I bought a Nexus 4 just so I could run Ubuntu Touch. Sadly, the battery won't hold a charge any more so I bought a Nexus 6P. Would love to get Ubuntu Touch working on my new 6P
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Let this be just discussion first...
So today was the Windows Phone 7 announcement and a lot of new devices were announced including the HTC 7 Mozart:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/11/htc-7-mozart-and-7-trophy-set-out-to-conquer-the-wp7-world-7-pr/
http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/11/htc-7-mozart-first-hands-on/
Pretty similar hardware and look to our Desire... I know it's early now but do you think that we will be able to port Windows Phone 7 to our Desire? Just for fun... Android is good enough.
Moved to General as not development.
Would be much more difficult since that's 100% reverse engineering 'cause Windows Phone 7 OS is not open source at all. But not impossible, though don't expect any...
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Would be much more difficult since that's 100% reverse engineering 'cause Windows Phone 7 OS is not open source at all. But not impossible, though don't expect any...
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Devs here have made wonders, and I think I saw a dev here running WP 7 on an HD 2....
I think we only need some sort of a bootloader... as the hardware is pretty similar it should boot and some parts should work.
I'm also more than satisfied with Android, but hey... as a geek, dual booting my smartphone does have some appeal
Seems unlikely. One of the biggest problems with pouring android to a wm phone is that some of the drivers are in the radio rom and that is closed. So a huge among of work goes into figuring out how to talk to the hardware then coding that into the linux kernel source. In the case of wp7, there will be no source code at all, just binaries. Without haret and debug information, there is no way to start other than flashing the rom and seeing whether it bricks. Maybe if haret got ported out would be a start. (maybe it already has, I didn't look at this for a while).
....speaking about Bravo clones, how about one that runs WinMo 6.5?
http://phonereplica.info/dual-sim/touch-g7-dual-sim-phone-htc-desire-clone.html
....and a video of the action:
http://www.tudou.com/programs/view/Un6h1tEL1GE/
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....speaking about Bravo clones, how about one that runs WinMo 6.5?
http://phonereplica.info/dual-sim/touch-g7-dual-sim-phone-htc-desire-clone.html
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http://www.tudou.com/programs/view/Un6h1tEL1GE/
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These clones always make me laugh a little. Why don't they just put Android on them? Lol.
I'm 100% sticking with Android but, I'd love to be able to dual boot WP7. You know, just to say I can
This would be hard work!
WP7 ist not OpenSource so creating driver etc is vey heavy!
Side note, anyone know if its going to be SIM free? Orange have the exclusive as an operator but I'm quite tempted to have a look at this...first previews are saying WP7 is VERY fast
Orange will have paid through the nose to get exclusivity of this phone so don't expect to see it sim free for at least a couple of months, they normally have either 6 weeks, 3 months or 6 months exclusive rights before going sim free.
I suppose cause the ROMs are out it could just be debranded, assuming it's not too hard to break the bootloader
given desire and mozart have very similar specs, does that mean there's a good chance android can be ported to mozart? im guessing through some kind of bootloader? anyone working on it?
Wondows 7 on htc desire
I would also love, If My HTC Desire is capable of dual boot on Windows 7 and Android. After having such a good hardware but if it does not support on software then it such hardware is of no use.
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given desire and mozart have very similar specs, does that mean there's a good chance android can be ported to mozart? im guessing through some kind of bootloader? anyone working on it?
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Any one found a workaround to this yet? Dual booting is lovely. For this reason, I happen to put a hand on a HD2 with WinMo 6.5 and I can boot Android on it but the phone is not mine, so now Im searching for a good HTC phone that gives me the options to play with.
I currently have the Motorola Max HD, the battery is awesome, I love it. But as far as software support, there is virtually none and I miss MIUI. Which phones usually come with the most community support? My guess is the Nexus phones, and with an upcoming nexus I might just wait for it if that's the case. What do you guys think?
Those which are sold very often have good support.
Yes, the Nexus devices have a very good one because they are sold very often.
By support I meant from the xda community, rooting, cm port, miui port and so on. Not so much latest android xD
AshyKnuttz said:
By support I meant from the xda community, rooting, cm port, miui port and so on. Not so much latest android xD
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Of course.
I got this right. However, if a device has been bought very often, there are many devs among those buyers.
Oneplus x is a really nice phone , i especially like its form factor which is why i brought one just today , but i read a thread where oneplus did not release MM kernel sources and this phone's production stopped. Now i am thinking about giving it back as it would be nearly impossible for future development.
What would anyone who is a present owner suggest in such a situation ? I am only getting this phone because of its 5 inch form factor and good development team.
P.s i know onyx got some top class dev's and Nougat is already on its way, i do not doubt their potential but just this phones future development progress.
Thank you.
We don't need OnePlus for further development. We are perfectly capable of keeping it up to spec. You'll be fine. Enjoy your new toy
It's a phone. You aren't buying it for its future development, you buying it for its features and the fact that they satisfy you. Don't fall in such buyer loop.
Sent from my ONE E1001
sniper20 said:
It's a phone. You aren't buying it for its future development, you buying it for its features and the fact that they satisfy you. Don't fall in such buyer loop.
Sent from my ONE E1001
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I am a person who is easily bored out using the same rom , i like aosp but i tend to move between different roms (once a week) just because of that . The fact that this phone has CM13 , MIUI (WIP) , SAILFISH OS excited me the most. This is the only reason i look for a phone with good dev community in it which partially require OEM & Chipset supplier support to release drivers.
Of course the phone excites me but I've looped through so many phones that the phone hardware alone does not excite me anymore.
Thank you for the advise tho.
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We don't need OnePlus for further development. We are perfectly capable of keeping it up to spec. You'll be fine. Enjoy your new toy
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thank you for the reply , but might i ask why . I always thought OEM's have to release the kernel sources or the phone will have less chance to be supported by next android version because dev's have to depend on hacks to get things working which is never ideal.
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thank you for the reply , but might i ask why . I always thought OEM's have to release the kernel sources or the phone will have less chance to be supported by next android version because dev's have to depend on hacks to get things working which is never ideal.
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No. Theoretically the only thing we need kernel wise is the DTS and a few drivers. We can pull the source for the 801 from Qualcomm themselves. We don't need an OEM outside of that
This is a request thread for developers to port non-Android operating systems to the Nexus 6P.
Hello there, Nexus 6P users and developers!
Here in this thread, I will put forward the rationale for developers to port mobile operating systems that don't have a robot as a logo to our device.
The Nexus 6P is a device with an incredibly active developer and user base, akin to those of prior Nexus devices. Being a Nexus device, it has relatively good support from Google,the source code necessary binaries can be found on Google's official repositories and developer websites; the custom ROM development scene is very much alive and vibrant as a result. The only thing lacking are the ports of other platforms. We have the install base to test ports (probably), we have CM/LineageOS support (useful reference base) and we very likely have devs who can do it (you know who you are).
As for the users, please comment down below for what operating systems you would like to see on your Nexus 6P so that we can grab the attention of those heroes rattling away at their keyboards! Developers can reply to a request directly or PM me if you want to talk. It would be nice if the coders would respond.
Additional stuff:
There is a UBports page for the Nexus 6P (angler) here: https://devices.ubports.com/#/angler
Our sister device Nexus 5X (bullhead) has progressed a bit further on UBports: https://devices.ubports.com/#/bullhead
The Nexus 5X is officially supported by KDE Plasma Mobile, so there is hope: https://plasma-mobile.org/devices/
Thanks towards developers for making users happy with ROMs, kernels, etc. The community is grateful for your support! :good:
EDIT: I mistakenly indicated on the poll that KDE Plasma Mobile was based on Ubuntu Touch. Apparently, this is no longer the case. My sincerest apologies.
Would like to see Ubuntu touch being ported to it.. but it seems like even Canonical has also abandoned it... So don't see anything else coming to life except Android and iOS...
Ubuntu Touch Canonical support
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Would like to see Ubuntu touch being ported to it.. but it seems like even Canonical has also abandoned it... So don't see anything else coming to life except Android and iOS...
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It seems that they're holding off until the new Snap-based system is fully in place. Until then, it'll probably stay in maintenance mode.
Maybe go see Plasma Mobile?
Contacting porters
Has anyone been able to contact a porter? I'm just posting to check.
I'm currently in contact with someone who can attempt to port Plasma Mobile to the Nexus 6P.
Plasma mobile for me! Ubuntu touch would be awesome too but Plasma looks great!
Plasma! Plasma! Plasma! Although for Plasma we also need Ubuntu Touch! Ubuntu Touch! Ubuntu Touch!
The other ones are cute too...
Y tho
I would really want to try bugfree Nugat MIUI
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I would really want to try bugfree Nugat MIUI
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MIUI is Android
MikiGry said:
I would really want to try bugfree Nugat MIUI
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This thread is for requesting ports of non-Android OSes to the Nexus 6P. MIUI is a heavily skinned distribution of Android, hence it doesn't belong here. Please discuss about it in a more appropriate thread.
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Plasma! Plasma! Plasma! Although for Plasma we also need Ubuntu Touch! Ubuntu Touch! Ubuntu Touch!
The other ones are cute too...
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Plasma Mobile is no longer based on Ubuntu Touch proper. It uses a customized Ubuntu container, but it's not the one from UT. It's (as if time of posting) using an AOSP/LineageOS core as a base. However, it doesn't use ART or Dalvik; this is what makes it a non-Android system.
I actually mistakenly believed this outdated information for a while (see original post) until I did more research into it.
From a technical standpoint, this means that a Plasma Mobile port doesn't need a pre-existing Ubuntu Touch port to be brought over to our device. However, its development could help Ubuntu Touch and other OSes (e.g. Sailfish OS, LuneOS, etc.) come afterwards .
On the (probable) end of Ubuntu Touch
Despite various users and developers planning on continuing UT to some extent, for now it seems that Ubuntu Touch is essentially dead.
What would you want in place of Ubuntu Touch?
Update: Ubuntu Touch lives on in the form of UBports, a community fork of Ubuntu Touch.
Spurring other OS development
To help with bringing non-Android Linux distributions to the Nexus 6P, I've made an initial port of Halium as a base for any future ports.
Spurring other OS development
To help kickstart bringing other OSes to the Nexus 6P, I've made an initial port of Halium for future ports of non-Android Linux distributions to build upon.
Ignore this; this is an accidental double post.
So, according to these:
https://www.xda-developers.com/project-treble-android-o-exist-flagship/
https://www.xda-developers.com/stock-android-oreo-huawei-mate-9-project-treble/
any existing device can get project Treble support.
It doesn't have to ship with Oreo.
(although all devices that do ship with it will have to support Treble as a requirement)
Google's own Pixel and Pixel XL, as well as Huawei's Mate 9 were definitely not shipped with Oreo on board, but were made Treble compatible, which is great news.
Could we show ZTE this somehow and hopefully get them to add project Treble support?
This can help all of us tremendously (the devs mainly and us as users) and offload ZTE a lot of time with updates because they can be way faster with Treble, hopefully on any new Axon they release, not just on the Axon 7.
What are your thougts on this?
it would be a good thing, as it would extend the phone's life, but im not too positive that zte is going to implement it, sadly. but there still is a chance for that. as we know, axon M uses basically the same hardware, and if axon m is going to support the feature maybe the axon 7 will have it too. you never know with zte, as they do some things surprisingly well, while they do other things lame. time will tell.
hope it too that ZTE will join Treble soon
gogo ZTE!
regards ice
I believe there's someone from ZTE on XDA, maybe he would ask?
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I believe there's someone from ZTE on XDA, maybe he would ask?
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Good Idea, gonna try to find him and tag him.
Hey @Sunn76 you may be interested in this mate!
hope it helps!
The good news is that Google got Qualcom to support Treble on their Snapdraggon 821 so they could update their Pixel. That takes care of the largest stumbling block. The bad news is that ZTE will likely need support from some other their other part suppliers and unlike Google, ZTE doesn't have the muscle to strong-arm them
Bump. Let's make this happen ZTE!
Doubt it will happen. Be lucky to get a stable O ROM at all IMO. The next Axon is where ZTE will put development effort.
I'd certainly be happy if they did do an O ROM supporting it though......
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Hey @Sunn76 you may be interested in this mate!
hope it helps!
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Still reading in the background[emoji5]
And yes I will pass it on
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@Sunn76 thanks! We really appreciate you passing on the message that the community would like support for project treble (and API2 ).
Thanks.
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Still reading in the background[emoji5]
And yes I will pass it on
Gesendet von meinem ZTE A2017U mit Tapatalk
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Great, thanks man
Api2 for camera is important as well, If I'm not mistaken there is a thread for that already posted!
I want this phone to support everything too. It's a great phone. Camera 2 api and treble would bring ZTE to legendary status in my eyes.
However I am a realist too and I understand where money is to made and I can tell you now there's nothing at all in it for ZTE to give us anything extraordinary at all.
At the end of the day I paid half the money for a phone that I believe to be in some ways better than flagship models costing twice the amount and I realise that so my feet are firmly on the ground.
Be realistic with your expectations and don't be disappointed. There aren't any other phones as good as this when it comes to pure bang for buck and things like treble and camera 2 api also aren't enabled on phones far more expensive than ours.
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Doubt it will happen. Be lucky to get a stable O ROM at all IMO.
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I'm curious what makes you doubt a stable O ROM will be available for the Axon. It's got a what I assumes is a stable LineageOS 14.1 at the moment.
They've recently come down a bit in price and I was thinking of picking one up to replace a Nexus 6P which suffered from the random reboot problem (using modified kernel, only little cores to get it stable).
I won't buy any phone unless I know it has decent custom ROM support.
What ZTE does with this phone will define how well the next phone sells. ZTE isn't mainstream enough to sell phones just out of carrier partnerships and advertisements. Word of mouth is a huge factor and if people aren't satisfied, they will not recommend the phone.
Another factor are Android news websites who will give free advertisements when axon 7 gets oreo and/or treble by reporting on it.
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What ZTE does with this phone will define how well the next phone sells. ZTE isn't mainstream enough to sell phones just out of carrier partnerships and advertisements. Wired of mouth parts a huge factor and if people aren't satisfied, they will not recommend the phone.
Another factor are Android news websites who will give free advertisements when axon 7 gets oreo and/or treble by reporting on it.
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I agree.
I'm personally pretty satisfied, and I'd definitely buy a new Axon if it's build similarly to the Axon 7 and the price is right.
Zte has the capability to go big I think if they keep their head straight and not compromise on features or sell their devices as expensive as Samsung does for example.
So I'm confused about treble. So from what I'm reading, it will allow Android to be broken down in parts and integrated into separate roms? So for instance, with our phone, it will allow things like stock axon 7 audio to work with our roms? If not can I got a short understanding of what it involves?
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So I'm confused about treble. So from what I'm reading, it will allow Android to be broken down in parts and integrated into separate roms? So for instance, with our phone, it will allow things like stock axon 7 audio to work with our roms? If not can I got a short understanding of what it involves?
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More or less it means what you said.
The drivers will be independently updated from the core system if I'm not mistaken and this will make updating and porting so much easier.
According to Udev the Axon 7 will not be getting Treble because it does not have a vendor partition
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According to Udev the Axon 7 will not be getting Treble because it does not have a vendor partition
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I don't think that means it can't get a vendor partition because it doesn't have one right now.
We've seen device repartitioning since the early Galaxy S i9000 days.
Nothing is impossible in my books unless proven.