Been a while but I'm back. Howdy folks
Yes, yes, I know, iOS works just fine on the iPad, why change it?
Why buy an apple device only to run android on it?
In short, it doesn't and I didn't.
In long form, iPad 1 runs no higher than iOS 5.1.1, meaning that I can literally download maybe 1 in 10 apps that I want. Most support only iOS 8.1 and up etc. Even jail broken, the only jail I've broken out of is my cell, but I'm still locked on my cell block.
The iPad's in question I purchased 7 years ago as gifts. One for my daughter, the other my brother in law. Both gave them back recently since there's little apps available for them and have upgraded to other android tablets. Being 7 years old however should NOT render a device useless, when physically it still works great. I have a 9 year old laptop running windows 7 which still works fine. Sure it can't run new games and software designed for newer, high end machines but its still very very usable. Like wise I have an old Galaxy tab 2 7.0, which Samsung never updated past 4.0.4 (still usable) but I run 4.4 kitkat on it thanks to none other than you lot at XDA.
Being able to run android on these old iPads would make them usable again. I know there has been some interest in this, iopenboot etc etc. I have not seen any XDA development on this, and given this is by far the hub of android development, I would love to find folks here interested in this project. I'm going to start digging around, see what this will entail. If anyone is interested in this project, let me know.
Much love.
Did you have any success with installing android on the Ipad 1 ?
The reason to try androd in such an old tab is just to support youtube...
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Not sure where else to put this but as its a viewsonic product ill try here. Has anyone got or played about with the viewpad? 10" capacitive screen runnign windows 7 and android 1.6.
Quite interested in it but cant seem to find that many reviews, hands on guides to it.
Mainly interested in the windows side of it if it works well enough really for installing windows programs with the android side for apps. Unfortunate its only 1.6 though and not at least 2,1.
skimminstones said:
Not sure where else to put this but as its a viewsonic product ill try here. Has anyone got or played about with the viewpad? 10" capacitive screen runnign windows 7 and android 1.6.
Quite interested in it but cant seem to find that many reviews, hands on guides to it.
Mainly interested in the windows side of it if it works well enough really for installing windows programs with the android side for apps. Unfortunate its only 1.6 though and not at least 2,1.
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Unfortunately I don't think you'll find too much interest/help in this section as though Sears Mis-stated that the tablet we bought ($379) was a VP 10 it's actually a GTab10... the difference being the VP10 is a an Atom (Proc.) Based tablet shipped with Windows and Android 1.6 vs. GTab being an ARM/Tegra2, Malata SMB-A1002 Proto design hybrid running a yet fully baked Android 2.2 version... so this new section is for GTabs and the 2 tabs with similar names are totally incompatible beasts
I did try a search and found soem new interesting news for the VP10... it's getting 2.2 update it seems...
http://androidcommunity.com/forums/f27/viewsonic-viewpad-10-android-2-2-update-coming-41795/
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Unfortunately I don't think you'll find too much interest/help in this section as though Sears Mis-stated that the tablet we bought ($379) was a VP 10 it's actually a GTab10... the difference being the VP10 is a an Atom (Proc.) Based tablet shipped with Windows and Android 1.6 vs. GTab being an ARM/Tegra2, Malata SMB-A1002 Proto design hybrid running a yet fully baked Android 2.2 version... so this new section is for GTabs and the 2 tabs with similar names are totally incompatible beasts
I did try a search and found soem new interesting news for the VP10... it's getting 2.2 update it seems...
http://androidcommunity.com/forums/f27/viewsonic-viewpad-10-android-2-2-update-coming-41795/
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I'm thinking about getting it today, first time seeing it, love the dual boot feature, was looking to either get the tab or a windows tablet, but now I want this, has anyone tried it out yet?
got one
I have a vpad10 (with the official froyo update installed) and can give you my experience...
First one returned with faulty touchscreen, second one fine, both suffer from dubious build quality (creaky joints etc). Screen is good, nice and bright and responsive (2nd time round anyway). Speakers are rubbish... my phone one's are better!
Runs windows 7 well, as well as an atom netbook (which it essentially is). Windows is surprisingly touch friendly, but not a patch on Android. Good for work though as still can't get goodies like MS Office on other tablets. Screen rotates automatically, but is more annoying than useful as I never use it portrait.
If you want it for Android forget it... Android is just a bit of a toy on an x86 processor... can't install all the Google Apps including calendar/contacts. If I keep mine I will probably change partitions to give the whole SSD (a very limited 16gb) to Windows.
In summary, this tablet is not the best of both worlds, rather the best compromise you'll find. Windows won't run on tegra chips, and Android won't play well with Intel (yet).
I'd be happy to answer any other questions anyone has.
I've been using my almost every day since I got it luckily for Christmas last year and love it. Viewsonic has recently updated Android so it can run 2.2 (Froyo) I would link you but I don't have 8 posts.
I'm use it everyday for my work and lifestyle.
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I have a vpad10 (with the official froyo update installed) and can give you my experience...
First one returned with faulty touchscreen, second one fine, both suffer from dubious build quality (creaky joints etc). Screen is good, nice and bright and responsive (2nd time round anyway). Speakers are rubbish... my phone one's are better!
Runs windows 7 well, as well as an atom netbook (which it essentially is). Windows is surprisingly touch friendly, but not a patch on Android. Good for work though as still can't get goodies like MS Office on other tablets. Screen rotates automatically, but is more annoying than useful as I never use it portrait.
If you want it for Android forget it... Android is just a bit of a toy on an x86 processor... can't install all the Google Apps including calendar/contacts. If I keep mine I will probably change partitions to give the whole SSD (a very limited 16gb) to Windows.
In summary, this tablet is not the best of both worlds, rather the best compromise you'll find. Windows won't run on tegra chips, and Android won't play well with Intel (yet).
I'd be happy to answer any other questions anyone has.
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Just pulled a Viewpad 10PI from ebay with Windows 7. I can't get it to boot into windows unless I have a keyboard installed. Is there a way to make Windows the default OS?
Thanks.
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Just pulled a Viewpad 10PI from ebay with Windows 7. I can't get it to boot into windows unless I have a keyboard installed. Is there a way to make Windows the default OS?
Thanks.
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Mine is the original vpad10, but sounds like your grub loader is the problem. Suggest reinstalling everything - android first then Windows 8 to get the fancy new Windows bootloader screen.
** To update everyone reading my original revue, the latest build of android x86 works brilliantly on this tablet, including all google apps and access to the play store. Windows 8 loads up but due to low screen resolution, will not load metro apps (unless you do a quick reg hack to stretch the screen - google it). After nearly 2 years use and a few drops, it's still going strong, good battery life, and upgraded hdd to 32g is much better.
So I'm an iPhone developer looking to start writing some Android apps. I know what I can get away with in terms of actual device testing in the iOS world, but not the Android world. I don't want a contract or monthly service (so no new phones). I'll initially be building apps targeted for mobile phones, but if possible, I would like to avoid owning a phone just for development, so if I can get away with a tablet, then that would be perfect because I can use it for other things.
With that said, is that a smart idea? I figure I need the following:
- Used, to keep costs down
- wifi since I won't have cellular service.
- 2.1-2.1 for development.
- Used Phone with no contract to save on price.
- hdpi screen for maximum compatibility testing (according to android dev site, looks like 75%+ phones in use are hdpi)
- Not too old, so that with some upgrades my phone doesn't become unbearable to use.
If I were to get a tablet, am I better getting something with 2.1 or 2.2? Or if I got something with 3.0, would I be able to test compatibility with apps targeted for 2.1 or 2.2? On an iPad for example, I can install iOS5, but build apps targeting iOS4 and test on an iOS 5 device.
I'd like to keep my purchase under $300 either way...obviously less would be even better if I can get away with it...
Anyways, any tips would be great!
I'm partially in your shoes, but going the other direction after a few projects (i.e. Android to iOS). I have a Droid X phone and will probably be getting an iPad...just need to sell a few more apps
Android runs on a multitude of devices and none of them are the same. I think the last app I published said it would be compatible with over 200 Android devices. A far cry from iPhone/iPad and just 2 devices.
I would think the phone would be the cheapest path to go....look on ebay. Luckily I have a friend with a xoom tablet and he can test stuff for me. If you're going to be in this (Android) for the long term, I might suggest a tablet as the better way to go
3.0 is only on tablets at this point and the Android SDK will let you set your release level down as required. Android phones should have just gotten an upgrade to 2.2.3
Objective C to JAVA and xml files....lucky you LOL
Is objective C harder?
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Tablet. We need more tablet developers and tablet optimized apps.
Rootstonian said:
I'm partially in your shoes, but going the other direction after a few projects (i.e. Android to iOS). I have a Droid X phone and will probably be getting an iPad...just need to sell a few more apps
Android runs on a multitude of devices and none of them are the same. I think the last app I published said it would be compatible with over 200 Android devices. A far cry from iPhone/iPad and just 2 devices.
I would think the phone would be the cheapest path to go....look on ebay. Luckily I have a friend with a xoom tablet and he can test stuff for me. If you're going to be in this (Android) for the long term, I might suggest a tablet as the better way to go
3.0 is only on tablets at this point and the Android SDK will let you set your release level down as required. Android phones should have just gotten an upgrade to 2.2.3
Objective C to JAVA and xml files....lucky you LOL
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Thanks for the feedback, it is much appreciated! I'm definitely leaning towards tablet, unless I hear of any reason why it's a bad idea! Again, coming from an iOS world, I'm worried about displays, and things looking their best, and acting properly...but as long as a tablet device can give me a reasonable enough device for testing that isn't an emulator, then I'll be happy...I figure the longer I do this, then much like my iOS development, I will build up a collection of test devices...fortunately for iOS developers, that collection doesn't have to be too big!
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Is objective C harder?
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As a former C# and Java developer, I will say that Objective C is generally "harder"...not necessarily because of the language...but because of the environment...Objective C has come a long way, and definitely is getting better, but I would guess that any C based language is generally harder to pick up successfully compared to more managed languages like C# or Java...
Now when it comes to device development, I can't tell you yet if writing Java for Android devices will be easier or harder...but give me a few months and I'll let you know!
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Tablet. We need more tablet developers and tablet optimized apps.
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I'll say this, I do love writing code for the iPad,...tablets are fun, and open up a world of opportunity...with that said, I'll initially be writing for mobile phones, but I'm sure that will expand eventually to tablets...
Well, I was in your situation just an year ago an I did:
1 - I bought an HTC Magic used from ebay, rooted at 2.2 (payed 150$ more or less)
2 - I used all the suggestions on the web to improve my java coding using Eclipse (i suggest you stackoverflow guys)
3 - Now, I'm looking for a tablet to enlarge the opportunities of my apps.
The emulator sucks, leave it as soon as you can for a device. You will boost your coding and debug.
If you know people with android phones, ask them to test your app. Unfortunately, it seems that the unique manner to be sure your app will work on all devices is to test it everywhere
I can confirm that emulator is ver slow, but as a last resort is ok.
If I were you a would have bought phone first. You don't want to develop applications that work perfectly on tablets that have 1% of a market share only to find out that after publishing they don't work on more popular devices.
Buy one of most popular phones (for example Samsung Galaxy S) and you will be in good shape.
get google development phone from google
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Here is a cheep android tablet to start dev on http://conamee.com/products/wm8850-android-4-0-cortex-a9-1-2ghz-tablet-pc-7-inch-4gb-coffee
Hello everyone, I started looking into a replacement tablet for my original Asus TF101. I really don't use the tablet much so it will be primarily used by my 5 year old son for educational games, reading, etc. The TF101 is 5 years old and even though it stood up to years of abuse my two sons (3y/o and 5y/o) put it through, it still works fine today. It is simply an old Tablet with old hardware and every app just lags even after flash ROM installs.
I want something with good hardware, around $200, screen size around 10", and good dev support. I want to be able to run newest OS, as well as TWRP. Mainly because my sons will definitely break something on the OS level and I want to be able to easily reflash a nandriod copy. Is Nexus 9 my best option? Should I be looking into anything else? I see Galaxy Tabs are prices really well but don't see much support for them.
Thanks for any advice.
You should note that the Nexus 9 is approaching it's 2 year google support mark and Android Nougat will probably be the last version of android for it.
(Although there might be custom roms made for it, after google stops updating.)
I recently got a low-mid end chromebook. Gotta say i expected it to operate like android... it does not lol. Kind of wish it was regular old android... anyway to replace chrome os with an android version? I mean i know they got that androidx86 project because i played with that a bit a while ago... would it be basically the same? Stick it on a usb thumb drive and install?
Yeah kind of figured it couldn't be done, at least reading up on the tablet i have which is the Acer R11 , there's crazy stuff you gotta do like moving hardware pins and what not. Kind of wish they would just stick full on bios's in devices and stop trying to limit what we can do with devices we OWN.
Your running the latest Chrome OS 69 on the R11?
I've just bought an Acer 15 Chromebook and I'm impressed by how well the Android integration works.
It's a touch disjointed at times but still feels like the best of both worlds.
It's pretty much 90% of what I expected running Android apps on a laptop would be like without seeing it in person before I bought the device.
Yep, I'm really enjoying my Acer R11 CB5-132T-C1LK (Developer mode)! Have put my old Microsoft 10 notebook to pasture...
It's been years since I rooted this thing, so don't remember what can or can't be done. If it's possible I would like to use Android 8, 9, or a version of chrome OS. This tablet worked for me in so many fashions I would really hate for it to end up collecting dust on a shelf. I would like to possibly use it as an educational tool for my kid to learn his letters.
What are you guys and gals doing with these old Nexus devices?
Almost everything what 2020 Android devices do.
I picked up a 32 gb unit alongside my original 16gb which I keep stock 5.1 on. The 32gb unit I test out newer ROMs on. At the moment I have it running 7.1 and it minus the camera thing does everything I want. I personally use this for ebooks, watching youtube and other forms of social media. Prime Video does work but lags at times. I only wish I could take reliable notes with it. I have an Adonit Dash 3 stylus that works semi fairly but it doesn't have the same feeling as say the Apple Pencil on my friend's iPad Pro.
I picked up a third 16gb unit to give to one of my parents as a "trainer tablet" which also runs 5.1. It does everything they possibly want it to do.
Rooting
Does anyone have the files needed to unlock the bootloader and change the rom for the nexus 10? I just recently started using mine agian and it's stuck on lollipop.