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http://www.fiercewireless.com/story...ush-users-data-share/2012-05-16#ixzz1v3jKBWDs
Title says it all. What do u guys think?
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I think its gonna mean alot of people will hold off on upgrading there phones, folks aren't gonna give up that on a whim just to get a new phone.
It won't affect me because the razr was my first "smart phone" so I have the 4 GB double (2 GB) data for 30 bucks deal, so in 1 year and 9 months or later (depending on when we next upgrade) before we get to even use this data share (which i'm hoping will help reduce are monthly cost).
I got my Razr w/ 4G-LTE unlimited data grandfathered in.
VZW is going to change the terms mid-contract? I doubt they'd even try.
If limited data is my only option, I'll cancel. Lots of other people will, too.
You would be able to fight it. The only way they can is by tricking you and we all know they are into that!
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It won't be until your next upgrade cycle most likely, the "Keep My Current Data Plan" option will disappear.
So I have roughly 2 years, at which time I'll buy myself something off contract.
I will be very unhappy.
Ive been with Vz for about 8 years now. You would think they would have learned something with the huge backlash ATT got with their "unlimited plan" customers and getting taken to court.
If they will only change it from unlim to limited by upgrading AND with them charging a fee for upgrading... I see a lot of ppl getting phones elsewhere then.
Not happy to hear this
All companies involved in mobile data today are pushing users to the cloud for all storage, we have to stream our music, pictures and videos to and from our devices. On top of all the cloud services, the device manufacturers are limiting the storage capability on the devices. Take the Galaxy Nexus for example; it is built with no memory card slot, and so are many other devices coming to market today. At the same time we are buying limited storage mobile devices, all of the mobile data providers are cutting back on data allowances.
Are the data providers and device manufactures building this limited data structure together? I don’t know, but my gut says YES. As technology progresses it always gets cheaper and these companies are trying to change that relationship. I've been with big red for almost 8 years, the first 5 years my bill was no less than 500 a month, the last 3 has been no less than 275, all with unlimited data, always getting a little cheaper. If I get forced into a data plan that I have to watch just to keep from getting slammed with overage charges, I’m done! Not only done with Verizon, but I will give up all mobile data, purchase a few nice flip phones for my family and go month to month with Cricket or the like.
http://www.change.org/petitions/sto...unlimited-data-plans-for-existing-subscribers here sign this to stop it
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Not a lot of people will cancel. Who else can you use. In my area verizon crushes. I would gladly switch but no one even at a better price gets device where I need it. 9 guys in my shop are unlimited and 2 were crying about this.
Let's face it. Its money. Verizon will eventually fully phase out unlimited because they can. They will make more money and 97% will not leave because the red devil owns them. It sucks but its true. Lots of people don't come close to 2gb a month but I use around 6gb. I pay for 10gb.
What kills me is thru Cox cable internet I have the 12meg package w 15meg speed boost. It cost me $45 no and I get 200gb. Verizon charged $50 at a double data rate for 10gb. How does this happen? I don't mind paying tier plan if they were reasonable. For me 10gb should be $30. Realistically $15. Makes no sense how they gouge for data but they have more people lined up waiting for their service.
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Not a lot of people will cancel. Who else can you use. In my area verizon crushes. I would gladly switch but no one even at a better price gets device where I need it. 9 guys in my shop are unlimited and 2 were crying about this.
Let's face it. Its money. Verizon will eventually fully phase out unlimited because they can. They will make more money and 97% will not leave because the red devil owns them. It sucks but its true. Lots of people don't come close to 2gb a month but I use around 6gb. I pay for 10gb.
What kills me is thru Cox cable internet I have the 12meg package w 15meg speed boost. It cost me $45 no and I get 200gb. Verizon charged $50 at a double data rate for 10gb. How does this happen? I don't mind paying tier plan if they were reasonable. For me 10gb should be $30. Realistically $15. Makes no sense how they gouge for data but they have more people lined up waiting for their service.
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I agree. I hate to hear the news, but most will take it bent over. Its all about money. They could care less about customer satisfaction. I doubt 3% would be the final number of people leaving VW because of this change.
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Giblet535 said:
I got my Razr w/ 4G-LTE unlimited data grandfathered in.
VZW is going to change the terms mid-contract? I doubt they'd even try.
If limited data is my only option, I'll cancel. Lots of other people will, too.
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Not according to the transcript on that article. It only effects the customers with unlimited plan migrating from 3G device to 4G's.
Fran Shammo - Verizon Communications Inc. - EVP & CFO
Well, the way we have designed this and of course, it is paper, not actual and we will see how this comes out, but the way we have designed this
is we really shouldn't see a short-term decline. And really the theory behind this is LTE is our anchor point for data share. So as you come through
an upgrade cycle and you upgrade in the future, you will have to go onto the data share plan. And moving away from, if you will, the unlimited
world and moving everybody into a tiered structure data share-type plan.
So when you think about our 3G base, a lot of our 3G base is unlimited. As they start to migrate into 4G, they will have to come off of unlimited
and go into the data share plan. And that is beneficial for us for many reasons, obviously. So as you pick what tier you want to be and we think that
there will be some price up in those tiers.
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Just buy your phone on ebay and sell it back on ebay. I figure i lose about $150 a phone each year. But i've had the Fascinate/droid charge/razr over the last year and half. All 3 were top phones. I don't plan on 'upgrading' see no reason for it. I will upgrade only the phone, but on ebay.
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Just buy your phone on ebay and sell it back on ebay. I figure i lose about $150 a phone each year. But i've had the Fascinate/droid charge/razr over the last year and half. All 3 were top phones. I don't plan on 'upgrading' see no reason for it. I will upgrade only the phone, but on ebay.
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That was my line of thinking after seeing this news, i got an upgrade to the RAZR with unlimited data late last year. If they don't flat out kill that anytime soon, i will probably "upgrade" via Ebay next time.
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I got on the tiered 3g for 30 and got the unlimited 4g hotspot for 30 when they still offered it. Because of that I have unlimited data currently. Do you guys think this change will affect me?
Spat from the mouth of mah Droid RAZR Maxx!
The truth is it will eventually affect everyone. The start is 3g.
High prices<tiered data<limited 3g<limited 4g.
Inevitable
THe clarification today was that if you ever get a subsidized phone or switch your plan, ie. 3g to 4g; you move to the new plans.
So if you are 4g and buy phones at full retail or elsewhere, no problem and you can keep it forever because you aren't making a change.
I know some people still on 350 minute loyalty plans. No issues, but they can't change a thing.
There was a leak from the new york time or something saying you can keep your unlimited data plan if you pay full price for a new phone instead of the subsidized price.
http://www.droid-life.com/2012/05/1...d-data-says-exactly-what-we-already-told-you/
No information was released by verizon so those are just prediction/assumptions. I have 5 lines with unlimited internet and 2 with 3g and 3 with 4g phones. I will hurry and get them into 4g phones asap. Every rumor tend to indicate that 4g phones are safe....... for now.
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droidxrooting said:
No information was released by verizon so those are just prediction/assumptions. I have 5 lines with unlimited internet and 2 with 3g and 3 with 4g phones. I will hurry and get them into 4g phones asap. Every rumor tend to indicate that 4g phones are safe....... for now.
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umm, yes it was:
http://news.verizonwireless.com/news/2012/05/data-pricing.html
When the new options are introduced, Unlimited Data will no longer be available to our customers purchasing handsets and signing a new contract. Customers who choose to purchase phones at full retail price and are currently on an unlimited smartphone data plan will be able to keep that plan. The same pricing and policies will apply to all 3G and 4GLTE smartphones.
So it seems as long as you don't upgrade, for now you get to keep unlimited data.
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umm, yes it was:
http://news.verizonwireless.com/news/2012/05/data-pricing.html
When the new options are introduced, Unlimited Data will no longer be available to our customers purchasing handsets and signing a new contract. Customers who choose to purchase phones at full retail price and are currently on an unlimited smartphone data plan will be able to keep that plan. The same pricing and policies will apply to all 3G and 4GLTE smartphones.
So it seems as long as you don't upgrade, for now you get to keep unlimited data.
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WTF? I just saw that. Thank you.
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Do you think the Galaxy Note 2 is worth giving up unlimited data? I can only imagine how much data I would be using with this phone. I could imagine being limited. I couldn't see myself paying ful price to keep unlimited data going. Sprint nor Tmobile have LTE in my area.
Has anyone found a way around being pushed into the upgrade? I also found it obnoxious that they are charging a $30 upgrade fee and giving me a $50 upgrade discount at the same time lol.
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Do you think the Galaxy Note 2 is worth giving up unlimited data? I can only imagine how much data I would be using with this phone. I could imagine being limited. I couldn't see myself paying ful price to keep unlimited data going. Sprint nor Tmobile have LTE in my area.
Has anyone found a way around being pushed into the upgrade? I also found it obnoxious that they are charging a $30 upgrade fee and giving me a $50 upgrade discount at the same time lol.
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Nothing is worth giving up unlimited data.
4g tethering / internet practically anywhere there is 4g... I would never give that up for anything. I use around 7-10gb of data on the average.
I will be giving up unlimited data this go around. After getting laid off of my job of 6 years I had to take a lower paying gig and the only way I could talk my wife into the Note 2 was if we combine our plans. I have never used more than 8 gb in a month and she uses 1 gb. We will either go with the 8 gb shared and save $30 a month by combining or maybe the 10gb plan. Its a small price to pay for me to upgrade from my X to the N2. It is what it is, I will make it work even though it does suck.
I'm likely buying the phone outright and keeping the unlimited data. Even my wife doesn't want me to give up the unlimited data.
That's cool. With 2 mortgages and 2 kids I couldn't justify 1400 for 2 phone's when we can get both for 700 and save 30 a month by combining. I hope all of you guys can keep unlimited, in 2 years ill see where the carriers are with respect to unlimited and move to another carrier if my 10gb plan isn't working for me. Honestly I doubt we will be having this conversation about unlimited on Verizon in 2 years. My guess is Verizon will decide in the near future to end it completely.
I wish there was a way to keep the plan. It's crazy they try to force you off.
My replacement Fascinate is defective with the constant reboots and overheating while charging. I was going to replace under warranty but I dropped it and the screen cracked which they have already tried to blame that for the problems. Assurion wants 99 bucks for a replacement. They keep telling me that my data usage is low. Yeah, my phone dies in 4 hours and crashes most when I use my web browsers.
Prior to that I was using 3-6 gigs a month. LTE + 2gb a month is like getting a Lambo to drive only in a parking garage.
Since I live at a University, I have to share with everyone else. I am averaging about 16GB a month so I have to keep the unlimited plan.
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Yup. 16 gb would cost you 170 (40 + 130 for data) a month on the new plan.
Wouldn't it be illegal for them to "force" you to change data plans later when people continue to buy phones outright.
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Wouldn't it be illegal for them to "force" you to change data plans later when people continue to buy phones outright.
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Yes but thhey can terminate you after you contract expires
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I just got back from VZW Corporate store.
I have 4 lines on a family account, i'm the owner of the entire account - I have TWO upgrades on my account and there's literally no way to be able to keep the unlimited data if the upgrade is on the line that has unlimited. It only works if you use a tiered line's upgrade for your unlimited line.
I know this might seem hard to follow but in short:
Unlimited Line has upgrade = wasted, nothing you can do with it
Tiered line has upgrade = useful for unlimited line
I don't find really any phone being with $600 to $700 after tax. That's just plain robbery. I've been doing it on my past 2 phones and now that I have upgrades actually available, i'm plainly fed up. I threaten to close my account with VZW but they would LOVE for that to happen because they don't want unlimited plan folks on their network anymore.
Now it's a game to test my wits.. How long can I go with my SG3 before going insane? I have to wait another year for one of my tiered lines to have an upgrade available.
Diversion said:
I just got back from VZW Corporate store.
I have 4 lines on a family account, i'm the owner of the entire account - I have TWO upgrades on my account and there's literally no way to be able to keep the unlimited data if the upgrade is on the line that has unlimited. It only works if you use a tiered line's upgrade for your unlimited line.
I know this might seem hard to follow but in short:
Unlimited Line has upgrade = wasted, nothing you can do with it
Tiered line has upgrade = useful for unlimited line
I don't find really any phone being with $600 to $700 after tax. That's just plain robbery. I've been doing it on my past 2 phones and now that I have upgrades actually available, i'm plainly fed up. I threaten to close my account with VZW but they would LOVE for that to happen because they don't want unlimited plan folks on their network anymore.
Now it's a game to test my wits.. How long can I go with my SG3 before going insane? I have to wait another year for one of my tiered lines to have an upgrade available.
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So why don't you use the tiered line upgrade and then switch the note to your line? I'm not really following this since you said two upgrades are available one on the tiered line and one on the unlimited.
Speaking of lines and unlimited. Our plan states that both are smartphones share the unlimited data. I keep hearing people talking about no unlimited data on certain lines??
I did preorder Note2 full price so we could keep unlimited and we were not eligible anyway as my line isn't up till Feb.
I can't imagine not having unlimited with the Note2, because its so powerful and with large screen, plan to use Netflix and music a lot!!
I'll be buying outright simple because they tacked on a $30 upgrade fee when I tried to preorder...Yea I know it makes no sense but its a principle thing now...haha
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I'll be buying outright simple because they tacked on a $30 upgrade fee when I tried to preorder...Yea I know it makes no sense but its a principle thing now...haha
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If you purchase the phone outright, say from Verizon or Amazon Wireless, and pop in your working SIM, you don't have to pay the upgrade fee?
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xdadevnube said:
If you purchase the phone outright, say from Verizon or Amazon Wireless, and pop in your working SIM, you don't have to pay the upgrade fee?
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Nope, I bought my DNA yesterday with no upgrade fee when I paid full retail. I also had no fee when buying my GS3 or MAXX HD.
Diversion said:
I just got back from VZW Corporate store.
I have 4 lines on a family account, i'm the owner of the entire account - I have TWO upgrades on my account and there's literally no way to be able to keep the unlimited data if the upgrade is on the line that has unlimited. It only works if you use a tiered line's upgrade for your unlimited line.
I know this might seem hard to follow but in short:
Unlimited Line has upgrade = wasted, nothing you can do with it
Tiered line has upgrade = useful for unlimited line
I don't find really any phone being with $600 to $700 after tax. That's just plain robbery. I've been doing it on my past 2 phones and now that I have upgrades actually available, i'm plainly fed up. I threaten to close my account with VZW but they would LOVE for that to happen because they don't want unlimited plan folks on their network anymore.
Now it's a game to test my wits.. How long can I go with my SG3 before going insane? I have to wait another year for one of my tiered lines to have an upgrade available.
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I have an unlimited data line and I was due for the upgrade, I moved the upgrade to my dads 4gb tiered line and pre ordered on his line and everything appears to be just fine.. I wonder what the difference was? Did you try and go online and do this? I am not second guessing you, I just dont know what the difference is between our situations..
drum747 said:
I will be giving up unlimited data this go around. After getting laid off of my job of 6 years I had to take a lower paying gig and the only way I could talk my wife into the Note 2 was if we combine our plans. I have never used more than 8 gb in a month and she uses 1 gb. We will either go with the 8 gb shared and save $30 a month by combining or maybe the 10gb plan. Its a small price to pay for me to upgrade from my X to the N2. It is what it is, I will make it work even though it does suck.
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Have you considered dropping carrier texting and lowering minutes to 450 while keeping unlimited data and using Google Voice and Groove IP for unlimited calls and unlimited SMS over data? You can also look into applying a corporate discount on your plan. As far as the Note II you're bound to find a good deal on Craigslist.
Yeah I'm buying it at full retail just to keep unlimited. This will also be my last phone with Verizon. Moving to prepaid T-mobile after this one, hopefully they have real 4G by then
I've got a 5th line with a 3g dumb phone on Family Share Unlimited plan. Upgrading that to the Note 2 for 2year contract discount. Killing that in 24 hrs and transferring N2 to me/current Gnex and putting dumb phone back on 5th line. Keep unlimited data
I was in the middle of an AT&T contract when VZW did away with their unlimited data plans. I was holding off, then when they announced the Share Everything plans were starting I decided to finally jump ship. Unfortunately, the "Double your data" promo had come and gone twice before I signed up, otherwise I wouldn't be considering this current change.
I'm currently on a 2GB, 450min, with $10/1000txts plan. With my corporate discount, that's $72/mo. I also have 3 tablets active on a share data-only plan; those total $60, and share 4GB. Total pre-tax/fee bill is $132.
Phone - $32
2GB Data - $30
Txts - $10
4GB Data - $30
Tablet 1 - $10
Tablet 2 - $10
Tablet 3 - $10
Total $132
If I go with an complete Share Everything plan, my bill would be as follows, for the same amount of data:
Phone - $40
Tablet 1 - $10
Tablet 2 - $10
Tablet 3 - $10
6GB Data - $74 (after discount)
Total $134
So, $2 more, I can tether with VZW's blessing, (plus w/o needing to deal with FoxFi, rooting/hacking my phone, etc), and unlimited talk and text. Those last two mean nothing to me, as I'm used 103/450 minutes, and 483/1000 texts last month. The blessed tethering is nice though. Plus, if I go over my allocation (like this month..both data buckets went over), I can go up in 2GB/$10 increments for everything, instead of 1GB/$10 for my phone AND 2GB/$10 on the tablets.
It seems worth it now...but I was against it when I just had the phone and 1 tablet. Then my bill was $102 (same phone cost, plus $30 tablet). Going to shared data would have been $106, and I didn't see any benefit to paying the $4 more per month.
But before I switch, I want to know if there's any downsides to worry about. Anyone already switched to Share Everything, and regret it?
I have the share everything with 12 gig, 4 phones. Haven't found any downsides in the time I've had it
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Seems sort of pointless to me to have a share everything plan w/ tablets on there when you can tether.
I would do the share everything in your case, but not add extra tablets and use that money for extra data.
kimdoocheol said:
Seems sort of pointless to me to have a share everything plan w/ tablets on there when you can tether.
I would do the share everything in your case, but not add extra tablets and use that money for extra data.
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The idea is that those tablets are subsdized.
adrynalyne said:
The idea is that those tablets are subsdized.
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I thought they stopped doing that?
The savings aren't as good as with the phones. Saving $200 bucks on a tablet, but having to pay extra a month when you can freely tether with your phone still makes no sense. I'd rather pay full price and then not have to deal with the contract. To each his own though.
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I thought they stopped doing that?
The savings aren't as good as with the phones. Saving $200 bucks on a tablet, but having to pay extra a month when you can freely tether with your phone still makes no sense. I'd rather pay full price and then not have to deal with the contract. To each his own though.
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Ah, maybe they did.
I'm not current with Verizon stuff, apparently.
So I work at a Best Buy Mobile and from my experience with these new plans, you're one of the few people who, from a cost perspective, it actually isn't detrimental to switch to the new ShareEverything Plans. Way too often do I see people who's bills would go up at least $30 just to get less data but unlimited talk/text (whoop dee doo...)
The way I look at it is if you're one of the people who would employ the add a line to a family plan for an upgrade tactic, then the share plans aren't worth it since you'd have to pay an extra $30 a month for 2 years just for an extra upgrade to use vs the old $9.99 a month method.
But seeing as you're on a individual 450 talk, the add a line trick for family plans doesn't work for you. But since you go over on data plans occasionally, the switch to shareeverything is easier on the wallets when it comes to data overages (so long as you call Verizon BEFORE you go over on data). It's $10 for 2 more gigs since you're just moving up a plan tier, but its $15/gb when you go over your data plan.
The new share everything plans are really just bad for individual accounts, people with mostly basic phones on their family plans, or families who only need minimum minutes per month and only have a smart phone or two. For example on people without any discounts, on the old setups, Nationwide Talk 450 + 1000 txt + 2gig data = $80 before tax; the closest plan like that is now the ShareEverything 2GB which is $60 + smartphone access for $100 together...$20 more just unlimited talk and text? Not worth it. Same concept usually applies to people on lower family plans like the Nationwide Talk 700 or even the Nationwide Talk 1400, not always cost effective.
Do keep this in mind, since you do get a hotspot feature included in the new plans, you don't need to buy cellular tablets as much anymore, thereby saving $130 or more when you buy the tablet. So that could be $10 less a month for each tablet you don't need to hook onto your verizon plan.
As a side note, why is your discount only $6? Most corporate discounts with Verizon are at least 15% Most of the ones I see are 20-22% ...Just saying
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The idea is that those tablets are subsdized.
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As said above, 3 tablets. One person's is an iPad, which wouldn't have been subsidized anyway, and was purchased off Craigslist, furthering the argument. The other 2 are Xooms, and in fact did get a subsidized price on them. Both were refurbished, on sale, and ended up at $200 and 250 with 2 year contract.
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Seems sort of pointless to me to have a share everything plan w/ tablets on there when you can tether.
I would do the share everything in your case, but not add extra tablets and use that money for extra data.
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You obviously haven't had a 3G/4G tablet for the last year. It's spoiled me, and I can't go back. I have done that previously, tethering WiFi devices to my phone. Also, only one of them is mine, the other two are carried by 2 other folks. At best I'd be saving $10, and it's worth it to me to have it connected. Plus, as mentioned above, 2 of 3 are under contract.
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So I work at a Best Buy Mobile and from my experience with these new plans, you're one of the few people who, from a cost perspective, it actually isn't detrimental to switch to the new ShareEverything Plans. Way too often do I see people who's bills would go up at least $30 just to get less data but unlimited talk/text (whoop dee doo...)
The way I look at it is if you're one of the people who would employ the add a line to a family plan for an upgrade tactic, then the share plans aren't worth it since you'd have to pay an extra $30 a month for 2 years just for an extra upgrade to use vs the old $9.99 a month method.
But seeing as you're on a individual 450 talk, the add a line trick for family plans doesn't work for you. But since you go over on data plans occasionally, the switch to shareeverything is easier on the wallets when it comes to data overages (so long as you call Verizon BEFORE you go over on data). It's $10 for 2 more gigs since you're just moving up a plan tier, but its $15/gb when you go over your data plan.
The new share everything plans are really just bad for individual accounts, people with mostly basic phones on their family plans, or families who only need minimum minutes per month and only have a smart phone or two. For example on people without any discounts, on the old setups, Nationwide Talk 450 + 1000 txt + 2gig data = $80 before tax; the closest plan like that is now the ShareEverything 2GB which is $60 + smartphone access for $100 together...$20 more just unlimited talk and text? Not worth it. Same concept usually applies to people on lower family plans like the Nationwide Talk 700 or even the Nationwide Talk 1400, not always cost effective.
Do keep this in mind, since you do get a hotspot feature included in the new plans, you don't need to buy cellular tablets as much anymore, thereby saving $130 or more when you buy the tablet. So that could be $10 less a month for each tablet you don't need to hook onto your verizon plan.
As a side note, why is your discount only $6? Most corporate discounts with Verizon are at least 15% Most of the ones I see are 20-22% ...Just saying
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Multiple points/questions to respond to. You're correct, originally, it made no sense. That's why I signed up when I did, so I wouldn't get forced into the new plans when I finally got around to dropping AT&T, as it would cost me more for no benefit to me. I did the add-a-line to upgrade on AT&T, but won't be doing it again even if I could.
You don't have to call before you go over your allowance. You just need to call before the next cycle starts; I did this for last month's overages. Cycle end 2/6, called 2/5.
I'd still probably buy cellular tablets, especially if (like iPads) that's the only way to get a real GPS chip. The Nexus 7 seems to be the exception, with the WiFi model having GPS. I've unlocked hotspot on every phone and been using it for years, and having it included will certainly be nice.
The discount on VZW is for certain aspects only, plus, one of us mis-calculated . Yes, mine is 20%. With a basic plan, it applies to the minutes portion ($40*20%=$8, so $32)...possibly the data too, if you have the 5GB/$50 plan. With the Share Everything, it instead applies to the shared Data/Voice/Text chunk, and not the device cost. So, 6GB is $80*20%=$16, or $64 (not $74). Add device costs (40+10+10+10) is $134, which is the number I noted. Surprised no one called me out on that basic arithmetic fail instead.
I have the t-mobile unlimited everything plan I'm paying $93 a month with tax. I'm not really into the crap t-mobile is pulling. They may get their act together in a couple of years from now. Realistically i want to buy my phone outright instead of being locked into a contract while maintaining a non prepaid account. On average I use about 2-3.5 gbs of data a month. Also I may in fact buy a phone at a discounted rate whichever plan monthly makes more sense. I'm also looking at sprint. ATT coverage is not great in my area. T-mobiles is so is verizon's. So what do you think?
Maybe its late at night but im not sure on what your trying to ask. Tmobile switched up how their plans work, you pretty much buy the phone out right (or pay like $200 down and $20 a month until the phone is paid off) and the plans have no contract, your contract is paying off the phone. For unlimited everything at $93 is not bad at all, going to verizon you will not have unlimited data unless you where grandfathered into it. I like verizon's cell reception a lot more than other companies including tmobile (i use to be on t-mobile). may i ask what kind of crap they are giving you?
I just switched from t mobile to Verizon on sunday. I do pay like $5 more a month for 3 line then what I did for 4 but the coverage is better along with call clarity. So far I am happy with the decision the only warning I have is if you get the S4 from verizon do not accept the OTA update stay on MDK. I didn't know that untill after the fact.
The update to my understanding locks the bootloader so you can't flash a custom recovery but u can still root and it drains the battery.
Hope this helps u with ur decision
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+1 on Verizon...switched from Sprint unlimited and I have a 6GB plan. only kicks in when not on wifi....at home and work most of the time..
I have 3 family members on verizon share everything with a 10 gb limit.
It runs me 250 a month (got insurance on all phones).
Daughter streams a lot, first day sucked down 800 mbs of data in the car. That stopped immediately. No streaming is the rule at the present but at this point between all 3 phones and 20 days into the service we're about 2.5 gb total. So there's definitely a happy medium there. We can hotspot also, but my other daughter just streams netflix and the like.
So really, I might go for the 15 gb plan which would be another 50 bucks and probably not worry too much about streaming.
I recently switched from Tmobile using the nexus 4 and have to say Verizon makes T-mobile look pathetic, my data and voice are so much better now T-mobile is for people with bad credit lol
thinking of waiting to buy the g4 but if the price is too high, then im not looking to wait like a month and a half hopeing the price drops.
does anybody know how much the lg g3 was when it first came out? specificly on verizon?
Figured it out.
It was 99$ for 2 year contract with verizon.
It was 199$ for 2 year contract with atnt, sprint, and T-Mobile.
Thanks me!
Phurkus said:
Figured it out.
It was 99$ for 2 year contract with verizon.
It was 199$ for 2 year contract with atnt, sprint, and T-Mobile.
Thanks me!
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Full retail was $599 on Verizon. $99 doesn't sound right, are you sure that was when it was initially announced? High end phones are almost always $199 to start.
geoff5093 said:
Full retail was $599 on Verizon. $99 doesn't sound right, are you sure that was when it was initially announced? High end phones are almost always $199 to start.
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thank you i left full retal, and im sure, i checked afew websites. il post a link to them right now.
it was a special that verizon was doing for a limited time when the g3 first came out, gimme a sec.
geoff5093 said:
Full retail was $599 on Verizon. $99 doesn't sound right, are you sure that was when it was initially announced? High end phones are almost always $199 to start.
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here you go, articles posted July 10, 2014
http://www.ibtimes.com/lg-g3-verizon-will-cost-only-99-1624634
http://www.droid-life.com/2014/07/1...-pricing-and-availability-pre-order-now-live/
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here you go, articles posted July 10, 2014
http://www.ibtimes.com/lg-g3-verizon-will-cost-only-99-1624634
http://www.droid-life.com/2014/07/1...-pricing-and-availability-pre-order-now-live/
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Wow that was a good deal, I hate not being able to upgrade anymore every 2 years with unlimited data.
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Wow that was a good deal, I hate not being able to upgrade anymore every 2 years with unlimited data.
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what plan are you under?
mine expires on the 25th, so im gonna wait alittle and see the prices of the g4
geoff5093 said:
Wow that was a good deal, I hate not being able to upgrade anymore every 2 years with unlimited data.
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Phurkus said:
what plan are you under?
mine expires on the 25th, so im gonna wait alittle and see the prices of the g4
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If you're with Verizon (which I assume since you are posting in here), tell them you want the 6gb Max Plan. It's $30 a month, giving you 6gb a month. It's for all users who upgrade and have to lose their unlimited data plan. That's what I did. I didn't know about it until the sales person I spoke with on the phone gave me that information. I stated I hated losing my unlimited plan and they said that there was a 6gb MAX Plan for people like me. It was still in effect and all you had to do was ask. Since I wasn't going to the share everything plan, it fit for me just fine.
Now, in my case, I ordered my g3 online ($39) but had it set for store pick up. The store couldn't do my 6gb plan, but all I had to do was once I got my phone, I just had to call back up on the phone and talk to a customer support person and they switched me right up. Took about 5 minutes and that was it. Very simple and I've been happy with it ever since. The G3 was worth it.
I don't go over the 6gb at all. I've come close, but I really haven't had to curb what I do online other than I don't constantly stream movies anymore unless I'm on wifi. Hasn't been much of an adjustment and I'm happy with what I've got.
So, that might be an option for you depending on how much data you use a month. If you never get near 6 gb at all (or only on a rare occasion), that might be the option for you.
Phurkus said:
what plan are you under?
mine expires on the 25th, so im gonna wait alittle and see the prices of the g4
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If you're with Verizon (which I assume since you are posting in here), tell them you want the 6gb Max Plan. It's $30 a month, giving you 6gb a month. It's for all users who upgrade and have to lose their unlimited data plan. That's what I did. I didn't know about it until the sales person I spoke with on the phone gave me that information. I stated I hated losing my unlimited plan and they said that there was a 6gb MAX Plan for people like me. It was still in effect and all you had to do was ask. Since I wasn't going to the share everything plan, it fit for me just fine.
Now, in my case, I ordered my g3 online ($39) but had it set for store pick up. The store couldn't do my 6gb plan, but all I had to do was once I got my phone, I just had to call back up on the phone and talk to a customer support person and they switched me right up. Took about 5 minutes and that was it. Very simple and I've been happy with it ever since. The G3 was worth it.
I don't go over the 6gb at all. I've come close, but I really haven't had to curb what I do online other than I don't constantly stream movies anymore unless I'm on wifi. Hasn't been much of an adjustment and I'm happy with what I've got.
So, that might be an option for you depending on how much data you use a month. If you never get near 6 gb at all (or only on a rare occasion), that might be the option for you.
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I'm on a 450 minute, unlimited text, and unlimited data plan. I got in on a promo they were running which was $69.99/mo, but add in my employee discount and I only pay $64/mo after tax. I believe I lose this if I change plans. Even if I didn't, going from unlimited to 6GB is an awful plan, unless my bill was half the cost. I'd rather go with unlimited voice/text, and 20GB of data and use Cricket for $55/mo.
I got in on the upgrade glitch a year or so ago, so I am actually under contract until this October.
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I'm on a 450 minute, unlimited text, and unlimited data plan. I got in on a promo they were running which was $69.99/mo, but add in my employee discount and I only pay $64/mo after tax. I believe I lose this if I change plans. Even if I didn't, going from unlimited to 6GB is an awful plan, unless my bill was half the cost. I'd rather go with unlimited voice/text, and 20GB of data and use Cricket for $55/mo.
I got in on the upgrade glitch a year or so ago, so I am actually under contract until this October.
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For me, I'm on an old plan that is unlimited text, 700 minute plan. It's old and out-dated as well, but I'm grandfathered in and had it before I even got a data plan. When I eventually did get a data plan, they still had unlimited data at $29.99/month.
For me, yeah not having unlimited down to 6gb seemed bad, but I rarely ever used 5 gb per month anyways, so it really wasn't a loss and I still have my same wireless plan. I'm still 700 minutes a month, unlimited text, but now 6gb/month data plan. Otherwise, I would have had to purchase the phone outright and I wasn't about to do that and my previous phone was on the fritz, so I had to have a new phone or I was out of a cell phone.
So for me, it was a no-brainer and still allowed em to not have to worry about going over my data limit. It was that or get 2gb/month for $30. $30 for 6gb seemed the better deal!
I still get my employee discount, but not on the data plan anymore (like I did with the unlimited), so yeah, my monthly bill went up about $4, but in the end, it was still fine by me.
It all depends on each person's perspective. Losing the unlimited was a bummer, but for me, the 6gb/month was just fine and I got a really good phone out of it for $30. So, I'm not complaining, but it all depends on each person's perspective. I was just throwing the 6gb MAX plan out there as not everyone knows about it. I didn't until they told me. Just wanted to give people some "potential" options for those sitting on the fence on whether or not to give up their unlimited data plan. My main factor was, no way in heck was I going to a 2gb/month plan but I was about to anyways as I had no choice in the matter. My wife wouldn't allow me to purchase a phone outright, even though in the end, it would end up being cheaper in the long run, but when she sees that $300+ upfront-cost for a phone, nope! Tried to explain to her, but she saw the $30 price tag on the upgrade so that's all she wrote on that! LOL!
But, once I found out about the 6gb/plan, that pushed me over the fence to go ahead and upgrade my phone to the LG G3. Not unhappy in the least.
I would say I believe the most I ever used in a month was 13gb. I think it's because I let my daughter watch some movies on my phone during a vacation trip. But that was it. Most of the time, it was less then 5 gb/month, if that. I'd say on average I used < 2gb/month.
So, going to 6gb/month wasn't any sort of loss in my mind. Still feel that way.
iBolski said:
For me, I'm on an old plan that is unlimited text, 700 minute plan. It's old and out-dated as well, but I'm grandfathered in and had it before I even got a data plan. When I eventually did get a data plan, they still had unlimited data at $29.99/month.
For me, yeah not having unlimited down to 6gb seemed bad, but I rarely ever used 5 gb per month anyways, so it really wasn't a loss and I still have my same wireless plan. I'm still 700 minutes a month, unlimited text, but now 6gb/month data plan. Otherwise, I would have had to purchase the phone outright and I wasn't about to do that and my previous phone was on the fritz, so I had to have a new phone or I was out of a cell phone.
So for me, it was a no-brainer and still allowed em to not have to worry about going over my data limit. It was that or get 2gb/month for $30. $30 for 6gb seemed the better deal!
I still get my employee discount, but not on the data plan anymore (like I did with the unlimited), so yeah, my monthly bill went up about $4, but in the end, it was still fine by me.
It all depends on each person's perspective. Losing the unlimited was a bummer, but for me, the 6gb/month was just fine and I got a really good phone out of it for $30. So, I'm not complaining, but it all depends on each person's perspective. I was just throwing the 6gb MAX plan out there as not everyone knows about it. I didn't until they told me. Just wanted to give people some "potential" options for those sitting on the fence on whether or not to give up their unlimited data plan. My main factor was, no way in heck was I going to a 2gb/month plan but I was about to anyways as I had no choice in the matter. My wife wouldn't allow me to purchase a phone outright, even though in the end, it would end up being cheaper in the long run, but when she sees that $300+ upfront-cost for a phone, nope! Tried to explain to her, but she saw the $30 price tag on the upgrade so that's all she wrote on that! LOL!
But, once I found out about the 6gb/plan, that pushed me over the fence to go ahead and upgrade my phone to the LG G3. Not unhappy in the least.
I would say I believe the most I ever used in a month was 13gb. I think it's because I let my daughter watch some movies on my phone during a vacation trip. But that was it. Most of the time, it was less then 5 gb/month, if that. I'd say on average I used < 2gb/month.
So, going to 6gb/month wasn't any sort of loss in my mind. Still feel that way.
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If that worked for you that's great, but with your loss of discount you are paying more for 6GB vs unlimited. When you factor in the cost of a phone which is ~$20-$25/mo., paying $15 more per month for unlimited data vs 6GB is a steal. Especially with how content heavy everything is now, higher quality streaming, 4K video, etc., your usage is only going to go up.
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If that worked for you that's great, but with your loss of discount you are paying more for 6GB vs unlimited. When you factor in the cost of a phone which is ~$20-$25/mo., paying $15 more per month for unlimited data vs 6GB is a steal. Especially with how content heavy everything is now, higher quality streaming, 4K video, etc., your usage is only going to go up.
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Since having it in December, I've been fine with the normal usage that I've always done. Never hit more than 3 gb/month, so for me, it works.
For me, this was a decision I'm fine with, but I'm sure others will have different opinions on it, which is fine. Again, like I said, it all depends on the perspective of each person. In my case, I had no choice. I had to upgrade because my other phone died and I need a cell phone for my family to contact me at any time, plus other personal reasons (not gaming - LOL).
So, to me, 6gb/month at $30 is the same as the $30/month I was paying for unlimited (well, $29/month), but in the end, it all worked out for me.