Is the US version of the Z5 compact separate hardware? Or is it the e5823 with custom software for the US that has full Tmo support?
I read that they dropped the fingerprint sensor for the US versions of the z5 and z5c.
weasal said:
I read that they dropped the fingerprint sensor for the US versions of the z5 and z5c.
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I cannot understand why they would do this.
weasal said:
I read that they dropped the fingerprint sensor for the US versions of the z5 and z5c.
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This is why I'm asking if the hardware is different or just software. So we know if we can keep the e5823 and just get software.
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Is the US version of the Z5 compact separate hardware? Or is it the e5823 with custom software for the US that has full Tmo support?
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What do you mean by "full Tmo support?" Do you mean VoLTE and WiFi calling? Unless it's a T-Mobile branded phone it will probably not support those things. I've had several unlocked Android phones on T-Mo and they did not have those features (including my Z3 Compact and Z5 Compact). The only one that comes close is the iPhone which does have WiFi calling on T-Mobile when using the unlocked version (because, I assume, they have no branding anyway).
We must have made our threads very close. I was asking the same thing. On one hand, the US version doesn't have the fingerprint scanner but may have better radios for the US carriers.. On the other hand if the international version has the same radios, it's also cheaper. Not sure what to do as I don't seem to have a clear answer.
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What do you mean by "full Tmo support?" Do you mean VoLTE and WiFi calling? Unless it's a T-Mobile branded phone it will probably not support those things. I've had several unlocked Android phones on T-Mo and they did not have those features (including my Z3 Compact and Z5 Compact). The only one that comes close is the iPhone which does have WiFi calling on T-Mobile when using the unlocked version (because, I assume, they have no branding anyway).
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This is not accurate. Nexus 5x, 6p, HTC One A9 all have proper T-Mo support including Band 12, VoLTE, HD Voice and WiFi Calling and are unlocked/unbranded. Pretty sure Moto X does too.
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This is not accurate. Nexus 5x, 6p, HTC One A9 all have proper T-Mo support including Band 12, VoLTE, HD Voice and WiFi Calling and are unlocked/unbranded. Pretty sure Moto X does too.
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OK. I had a Nexus 5X and I don't remember support for WiFi calling, but I only had it for two days. My Sony devices don't support it.
I guess the correct answer is it depends on the device.
weasal said:
I read that they dropped the fingerprint sensor for the US versions of the z5 and z5c.
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According to Amazon site for Z5 Compact "Fingerprint sensor is not supported." (see last line of specs under "From the Manufacturer.") Read: It's there, but without software support.
This leads me to believe that hardware is identical to E5803 or E5823 and only fingerprint sensor software/drivers are not included in US customization.
That makes more sense than Sony building a completely different model for the US market that they would have to support with different parts, etc.
Also means that someone with a US variant should try flashing a non-US customization and see if the sensor 'awakens.'
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Also means that someone with a US variant should try flashing a non-US customization and see if the sensor 'awakens.'
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Yes, that probably would work. You can get it more easily buying one from Clove UK with the sensor software already functional.
Granted you'd have to return it to Clove for warranty support but I wonder how a US distributor would handle warranty support on a phone with a different customization. I suppose you could put the US version back on it for support.
Looks like the bands are better for US carriers including the infamous band 12 for Tmobile. Think I'll go this route since I'm on Tmobile
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Looks like the bands are better for US carriers including the infamous band 12 for Tmobile. Think I'll go this route since I'm on Tmobile
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Doesn't add up because the original Z5c had B12, just no VoLTE.
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Doesn't add up because the original Z5c had B12, just no VoLTE.
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Hmm. This is what I'm trying to figure out for sure. Obviously if I can get away with a UK model and still have the same bands.. It will save me money. Just read that b12 was NOT on the UK and Asian models. Do you have a source?
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when i was in florida/miami i got a t-mobile card, it worked fine, but it almost always showed that i had a very bad signal.
i have a nordic yellow z5c.
also, wtf is up with the prices 60$ for unlimited calling in the states and 3gb surf.
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Hmm. This is what I'm trying to figure out for sure. Obviously if I can get away with a UK model and still have the same bands.. It will save me money. Just read that b12 was NOT on the UK and Asian models. Do you have a source?
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I'm using an Asian model and get a band 12 signal on T-Mobile according to LTE Discovery
I ordered mine from amazon, and am using on T-Mobile, it does have fingerprint sensor. Pretty sure there is one model that supports pretty much every band there is. US model is the same except the fingerprint sensor as I read in the news, not sure how I can tell mine is US model as it is not indicated anywhere.
Ever since I got out of my contract and started using prepaid I never bought a single phone from a carrier. ****ty logos, apps and sometimes software, and apparently now different hardware? No thanks..
Bump... Anyone have volte
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nope, no VoLTE on mines.
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Am I the only one who is mad that no one is following apple on the one thing they did perfectly? Apple has almost every LTE band you could need in one device. I travel for work a lot, I have to go to Japan and middle East. The bands in the American nexus devices lacks every band used in Japan on DoCoMo (1,19,21) except the 5X has band 1.
Right now I'm debating nexus 6P (can't do a 32GB device do no 5X) or the iPhone 6S plus. I'd grab the nexus in a heart beat if it had the bands I need. Ugh I hate these decisions lol.
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The rest of world version has every band you need. Comparison here, row on left, USA on right
http://assets.hardwarezone.com/img/2015/09/Nexus-6P-network-JP-vs-US.jpg
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The rest of world version has every band you need. Comparison here, row on left, USA on right
http://assets.hardwarezone.com/img/2015/09/Nexus-6P-network-JP-vs-US.jpg
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Aye I know it has the Japanese bands, and all of AT&T's current bands, missing is the T-Mobile band 12 and AT&T band 30. I'll probably get the international version, assuming I can order it (may have to order from Google Japan) I just want as many bands as possible for the ability to easily change carriers.
Maybe someone will do what was done for the Moto N6, combine most of the bands into one QCN file.
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Is this due to licensing, physical, or software limitations (binaries not supporting certain bands)?
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Is this due to licensing, physical, or software limitations (binaries not supporting certain bands)?
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Licensing or physical (no one would be able to tell until they have the devices). You have to pay per band for licensing, and some bands need certain filters and amplifiers that are external to the modem chip. Those obviously cost money so sometimes aren't included (though sometimes are just not activated in software since they could save money by not having to retool the production lines to make different models)
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Aye I know it has the Japanese bands, and all of AT&T's current bands, missing is the T-Mobile band 12 and AT&T band 30. I'll probably get the international version, assuming I can order it (may have to order from Google Japan) I just want as many bands as possible for the ability to easily change carriers.
Maybe someone will do what was done for the Moto N6, combine most of the bands into one QCN file.
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Well we know band 12 is just locked right now for Tmo, but should be available by launch.
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This is admittedly where the iPhone just crushes any android device honestly. My ex went to Canada and had excellent service. She then went to Italy and the UK and never had to swap sim cards (some kind of T-Mobile service) and had 4G everywhere. Obviously she wasn't thinking of LTE bands, but I was impressed when she told me about it. But I now have to worry about phones that support bands in the UK and U.S.
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Well we know band 12 is just locked right now for Tmo, but should be available by launch.
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Not for the international version though, only the American version will have band 12 and 13
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This is admittedly where the iPhone just crushes any android device honestly. My ex went to Canada and had excellent service. She then went to Italy and the UK and never had to swap sim cards (some kind of T-Mobile service) and had 4G everywhere. Obviously she wasn't thinking of LTE bands, but I was impressed when she told me about it. But I now have to worry about phones that support bands in the UK and U.S.
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Aye, though T-Mobile will show LTE (since that's what it connects to) its still throttled though which is why I get local SIMs overseas.
I'm honestly thinking of buying a 6S plus for myself for Christmas. Great LTE coverage and maybe I'll save money buy not buying a new phone every few months, since there's only one new iPhone a year (not counting the 2 sizes) lol.
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Dennis, I currently live in Japan, and use DoCoMo. According to the DoCoMo rep I spoke to on the phone, DoCoMo uses bands 1, 3, 19, 21, 28.
Are you saying the American version won't work at all? The difference in price between the American and Japanese versions of the nexus 6P is laughable. ¥74,000 to ¥59,000 yen respectively.
I'm in Japan right now too. The only band the US one has is band 3. I don't know where or how saturated band 3 is, or if it would work well. I'm debating very much right now. Buy nexus 6P for $800 and get the 128GB and stay with Android, hoping it works for the next few months here. Or buy the iPhone 6S plus and get less storage for more money and have to switch to iOS.
Edit: meant $700 for the 128GB N6P (approximately after tax), the 64GB iPhone 6S plus is $849 before tax. Ugh.
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This is admittedly where the iPhone just crushes any android device honestly. My ex went to Canada and had excellent service. She then went to Italy and the UK and never had to swap sim cards (some kind of T-Mobile service) and had 4G everywhere. Obviously she wasn't thinking of LTE bands, but I was impressed when she told me about it. But I now have to worry about phones that support bands in the UK and U.S.
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I've brought my N4 and N5 overseas and had zero issue on tmo just continuing to use my phone over the last 3 years.
does anyone know if this will work on the verizon XLTE frequencies? I can't tell by the displayed specs.
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Never mind. I found it.
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does anyone know if this will work on the verizon XLTE frequencies? I can't tell by the displayed specs.
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Never mind. I found it.
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in case anybody else was wondering....
Band 4: 1700MHz F (XLTE)
I have a question. Are you guys getting LTE signal on N6P? When AT&T activated my new sim for N6P, I'm getting an H signal. I asked the guy at AT&T said it's HSPA+. Weird, because when I was on my N5, I was getting "LTE" from AT&T.
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I have a question. Are you guys getting LTE signal on N6P? When AT&T activated my new sim for N6P, I'm getting an H signal. I asked the guy at AT&T said it's HSPA+. Weird, because when I was on my N5, I was getting "LTE" from AT&T.
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Change your APN to ATT phone, works on my wife's phone. You should be getting LTE for sure.
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in case anybody else was wondering....
Band 4: 1700MHz F (XLTE)
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I get Band 4 at my office and XLTE speeds.
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Change your APN to ATT phone, works on my wife's phone. You should be getting LTE for sure.
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Thanks man, I did your suggestion but, no bueno. I think the dude at ATT didn't set up my phone correctly.
It is definitely a downer because my iPhone will be nice to have during international travel but that's only 3x a year so I'll live.
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It is definitely a downer because my iPhone will be nice to have during international travel but that's only 3x a year so I'll live.
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Where do you travel to? The 6P will work in most countries around the world. It has Band 2/3/4/5/7/12/13/17/25/26/29/30.
Most of Europe will be fine. Most of Oceania is fine. Most of Asia excluding China and Japan. All of North and South America works.
It seems the Z5c lacks 1700MHz band 4, which should mean Telus and Bell (same for T-Mobile?) are **** out of luck for LTE. Can anyone with the device or more knowledge confirm?
That's strange that they dropped it, though according to this, it shouldn't be a big deal either:
http://www.xperiablog.net/2015/10/07/usa-buyers-guide-sony-xperia-z5/
Just got my Z5c, and did a Speedtest.net
The results are 28Mbps/11Mbps, which is as good as I got using LTE on my Nexus 5, though my antenna bar reads "4g" not "LTE".
So I don't know what to tell you!
No, no AWS, but speed as good as AWS anyway.
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Just got my Z5c, and did a Speedtest.net
The results are 28Mbps/11Mbps, which is as good as I got using LTE on my Nexus 5, though my antenna bar reads "4g" not "LTE".
So I don't know what to tell you!
No, no AWS, but speed as good as AWS anyway.
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4G is LTE.
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4G is LTE.
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Indeed, however all promo screenshots of the Z5 show "LTE".
Here's an /r/android post I just did with some more info:
Disclaimer: I'm not educated in the technical aspects of mobile radios, and the following info rests on the shoulders of forum reading and a small amount of real world testing.
This should be the same across all Z5 phones - Compact, Regular, and Premium.
Telus, Bell, and to some degree T-Mobile and AT&T use band 4 LTE. Telus/Bell specifically use 1700/2100 AWS for LTE. I got my E5823 this afternoon (black Z5 Compact), and I've been fawning over it all evening. Here's what I've found on my Telus network:
I'm reliably getting ~30Mbps down, and ~12Mbps up.
My Z3c reliably gets ~30Mbps down, and ~28Mbps up.
Which makes sense, as I'd seen a couple forum posts saying that 2100MHz is for AWS down, and 1700 is for AWS up, and the Z3c supports both while the Z5c only supports 2100MHz.
For me, this is good news, as I was afraid I'd be on 3g all the time, and not having full upload speeds don't bother me, as 99% of my uploading is on wifi.
In other news, this phone is AMAZING. Happy to answer any other questions re: data or the new phone.
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Thank you for the info. I recently discovered another variant "e5803" instead of the model mentioned here and elsewhere e5283. It seems to list the same radio frequencies but could this just be a naming variation or will this be the US model similar to z3c d5803?
Lastly, if we are purchasing a supposed "international" model, will Sony USA provide us warranty or would be from the seller?
Really interested in your input before I fork over $$$ on this cool phone.
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4G is LTE.
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Not in every country. Please refer to this:
http://www.xperiablog.net/2015/10/07/usa-buyers-guide-sony-xperia-z5/
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Can ANYONE who has the Mate 20 Pro and has T-Mobile (U.S.) as well confirm whether or not VoLTE is an option?? Please, if you do have it, let me know. Also, please: 1) Provide a screenshot of a phone call in progress (using stock calling app) 2) Provide the model # (L09 ((Single SIM) or L29 ((Dual SIM))). 3) Mention if Wi-Fi Calling is listed as well or not. 4) A screenshot of the settings page with VoLTE listed would be helpful as well, but it's NOT as important as #1.
Thank you all in advance!!
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Can ANYONE who has the Mate 20 Pro and has T-Mobile (U.S.) as well confirm whether or not VoLTE is an option?? Please, if you do have it, let me know. Also, please: 1) Provide a screenshot of a phone call in progress (using stock calling app) 2) Provide the model # (L09 ((Single SIM) or L29 ((Dual SIM))). 3) Mention if Wi-Fi Calling is listed as well or not. 4) A screenshot of the settings page with VoLTE listed would be helpful as well, but it's NOT as important as #1.
Thank you all in advance!!
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Same boat. LYA-L09 no volte
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Same boat. LYA-L09 no volte
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Ok. Thanks leo! That sux.
Anyone got the L29 Dual SIM version?? If so, VoLTE?!! lol
LYA-L29 does not have T-Mobile VoLTE.
Strangely, the Mate 20 X does support T-Mobile VoLTE.
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LYA-L29 does not have T-Mobile VoLTE.
Strangely, the Mate 20 X does support T-Mobile VoLTE.
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WTF? You have proof of this?? lol
It doesn't have anything to do with T-Mobile certifying one phone for Volte and not the other--both support the necessary bands. There's just a line of code different in the OS.
With the Xiaomi Mix 2 & Mix 2S the former supported Volte on T-Mobile and the latter didn't despite having the same modem and band support. But in MIUI a dial code turns off the coding for carrier check and voila--the 2S supports Volte on T-Mobile just like the Mix 2.
Unfortunately there doesn't seem to be anything like that on Huawei phones but a software update could easily add Volte compatibility.
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It doesn't have anything to do with T-Mobile certifying one phone for Volte and not the other--both support the necessary bands. There's just a line of code different in the OS.
With the Xiaomi Mix 2 & Mix 2S the former supported Volte on T-Mobile and the latter didn't despite having the same modem and band support. But in MIUI a dial code turns off the coding for carrier check and voila--the 2S supports Volte on T-Mobile just like the Mix 2.
Unfortunately there doesn't seem to be anything like that on Huawei phones but a software update could easily add Volte compatibility.
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The thing with T-Mobile is, your phone can have Band 12 on it, but T-Mobile doesn't allow you to use for calls (only data) unless the phone has certified VoLTE on it. At least THIS is what I was told. But you may be right b/c the newest Sony phone (Xperia XZ3) as far as I know doesn't have T-Mo VoLTE certification, yet when I got it (and later returned it cuz the camera was surprisingly under par), I was able to have VoLTE on a call b/c, just not in 4G LTE. But the call showed "HD+" which means VoLTE was there, even w/o VoLTE in the Settings menu. And the newest T-Mobile 2018 phones (meaning the ones sold by T-Mo directly) don't have it listed either...........so I dunno anymore! lol I guess now it's not about having 4G LTE during a call, it's about if you see HD+ or HD something while making a call on the stock phone app.
Wow! That's pretty cool. Yeah I hope Huawei does that. I just got the OnePlus 6T from T-Mo and traded in my LG V30, so it's too late now anyway. I'd still like to see proof of the 20X having it though, cuz next spring I am considering upgrading again (since I got 6T for only $280 with trade-in) to the P30 Pro maybe. But if no VoLTE, again I will pass on it.
Anyone here get Volte on T-Mobile with Mate 20 Pro?
I was not able to find a way to get volte working on my l29, but I did install tmo digits. After the install, I called someone and was able to stay on 4g lte and was able to use wifi calling(using my number) . I think its a great work around.
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LYA-L29 does not have T-Mobile VoLTE.
Strangely, the Mate 20 X does support T-Mobile VoLTE.
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Would you know if Mate 20 hma-l29 supports volte on tmobile? Edit. No it don't.
Some claim neither does the Mate 20x, yet you seem to say not.
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Anyone here get Volte on T-Mobile with Mate 20 Pro?
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I have an LYA-AL00 and have volte in China using China Unicom. When I was in California, I had a T-Mobile SIM and had the volte option
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I have an LYA-AL00 and have volte in China using China Unicom. When I was in California, I had a T-Mobile SIM and had the volte option
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So when using for phone calls with tmobile in California, would you recall if it dropped from LTE or not?
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So when using for phone calls with tmobile in California, would you recall if it dropped from LTE or not?
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It never dropped on the few calls I made.
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It never dropped on the few calls I made.
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I dont mean dropped as phone call dropped. We on the same page brother?
I'm talking about it dropping out of LTE to 4g or 3g
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Hi,
has anyone experience with this Phone in the US ?
I having a -Mobile (USA) card in it and have mostly no Cell service, and if a Cell service than only 2 G
Thanks for your feedback
looking at
Sony Xperia 1 IV - Full phone specifications
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T-Mobile network
Learn about coverage and technologies of the T-Mobile network, including a 5G and 4G LTE Coverage map, device compatibility, and more.
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Cheat sheet: which 4G LTE bands do AT&T, Verizon, T-Mobile and Sprint use in the USA?
What are the 4G LTE bands supported by AT&T in 2019? Do they differ from the 4G LTE bands that T-Mobile uses? And what about Verizon Wireless massive 4G LTE network and its supported frequency bands? And where is Sprint left in the 4G LTE picture? What Verizon bands are currently in use? What...
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most of the things should work
I did look on this specs first, after I got it seems like there is something additional. There is one spot I get a super connection but 90% of the time weak or no Service at all. I have tried many phones before but none of them even had such bad reception. And there supposed to be even the Tmobile 5G 71 Band. It looks to me someone sold a restricted fu.... Asia version without mentioning it
go to settings and all the way down you should see your model number. Considering that USA specific is not out yet you most likely have asian one which is XQ-CT72. EU one is CT54.
But those should work on t-mobile network, most of the bands are there. And those are low bands, so longer range.
It runs at limited feature support. Sony disables VoWIfi for US models and many other features including Bluetooth features such as Bluetooth meta data.
Sony blames T-Mobile for limited feature set. you will need to root your phone to hack up the build to enable VoWifi and other features.
This feud between Sony and T-Mobile has been going on for the past 10 years and Sony still playing ignorant to US market.
if you don't care about such limited feature set, Xperia 1 IV should still work on TMO
I just got my phone yesterday and realized the same thing happened to me, I didn't have service where I used to but I managed to get it working by: going to settings, then network and internet, then Sims, scroll down to access point names. And two options should pop up, I changed mine to T-mobile US LTE.. And restart, which worked for me.
hnt20 said:
It runs at limited feature support. Sony disables VoWIfi for US models and many other features including Bluetooth features such as Bluetooth meta data.
Sony blames T-Mobile for limited feature set. you will need to root your phone to hack up the build to enable VoWifi and other features.
This feud between Sony and T-Mobile has been going on for the past 10 years and Sony still playing ignorant to US market.
if you don't care about such limited feature set, Xperia 1 IV should still work on TMO
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Are you saying the the imported version of the Xperia 1 iv does support VoWifi or neither one will on any USA carrier
kuau said:
Are you saying the the imported version of the Xperia 1 iv does support VoWifi or neither one will on any USA carrier
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that is correct, the issue is more related to Sony software rather than just the region. the only way to get VoWifi is to root your phone and disable sony software limitations
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that is correct, the issue is more related to Sony software rather than just the region. the only way to get VoWifi is to root your phone and disable sony software limitations
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Is there a guide for this? Not having wifi calling is the main thing holding me back from pre-ordering
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Is there a guide for this? Not having wifi calling is the main thing holding me back from pre-ordering
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yeah this guide should work, its for the Xperia 1 III, I would think it would work for the IV, I just switched to goggleFI to get Wifi calling with out having to do anything.
Getting VoLTE and VoWiFi on unlisted carriers by flashing mbn file
I live in Canada and I have a BC72 (Asian version). I am struggling to get VoLTE and VoWiFi working. I know that mbn file is the key to getting IMS support and sony seems to block some carrier mbn files (only mbn in sales areas are available). So...
forum.xda-developers.com
I have been using the XQ-CT72 here in michigan on GoogleFi, which is basically t-mobile, in my town where I live, I get 5G without doing anything to the phone, but with that said, I work 20 miles out in rural area and apparently from my research tmobile use band 71 for 5G in rural areas, I can get LTE+ but no 5g at work, my Pixel 6 pro can get 5g but its like 1 to 2 bars that`s it, but with my sony I get full bars of better signal on LTE+ with my Sony, since the Sony is missing the n71 band for 5G, but I`m fine with what I get, since at work I` m on wifi anyways, I`m happy with my purchase, I originally had the US model on pre-order and the release date was pushed back to Sept. 22-23, so I cancelled my pre-order and bought a new one on ebay for 1069.00 compared to sony wanted 1599.00 for US mode
EDIT: I ended up send it back to seller, the 5g icon was not really 5g, if you're in the USA I would wait and buy the USA version, which I pre-ordered from Sony website, expected ship date is 22-23
moving to GoogleFI is the best option to use this phone in the USA. it will utilize Tmobile USA and have all feature enables.
Can anyone comment on Verizon compatibility with this device?
If really like to save some money and not buy the bootloader locked na version (if locked is still a thing)
Thanks
svntsvn said:
Can anyone comment on Verizon compatibility with this device?
If really like to save some money and not buy the bootloader locked na version (if locked is still a thing)
Thanks
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Only way to know for sure it to just buy it and try it for your usecases. Just buy it somewhere with a good return policy. I bought mine on Ebay with a 30-day return policy and so far it works fine on AT&T. Just make sure you do the trick where you disable dual-sim. (Google the details, it's somewhere here on XDA or on Reddit).
I bought my USA variant phone a week ago, and everything on T-Mobile works with the exception of Wi-Fi calling. The only alternative we have is to stop using T-Mobile and switch over to Google fi which does support Wi-Fi calling. Other than that my phone is flying super smooth and with fast performance like I've never believed compared to my old LG v30 Plus. I'm definitely impressed with this phone.
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Can anyone comment on Verizon compatibility with this device?
If really like to save some money and not buy the bootloader locked na version (if locked is still a thing)
Thanks
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I'm using mine (XQ-CT62) in the Verizon network. Reception is not the best in the area where I'm but it works with no problem
Is that a coverage thing most likely, or the device itself? Rural area?
svntsvn said:
Is that a coverage thing most likely, or the device itself? Rural area?
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From a technical point of view, the phone should work on all carriers in the USA without issues, (with the exception of the Sony/T-Mobile Wi-Fi Calling issue that forces those who want Wi-Fi calling to switch to Google Fi, Mint Mobile, and other MVNOs).
Whatever service is in the area should work. Verizon will provision your phone to work with it's network. CDMA based carriers are supported per Sony's phone settings, so I would just go for it.
Hey guys when i go to Sony website and look up bootloader unlock instructions. it says the US variant is locked by verizon.
this is the version i have. Does that mean i cannot unlock bootloader? do i need to return my phone and the global version? The guides posted on here don't seem to mention the model number as if it matters.
Unlock Bootloader - Open Devices - Sony Developer World
developer.sony.com
Unless anything has changed, it is generally known that Verizon phones have a locked bootloader for customer security and in Verizon's interest.
ze7zez said:
Unless anything has changed, it is generally known that Verizon phones have a locked bootloader for customer security and in Verizon's interest.
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Yea I am a first time sony buyer. the phone i have is actually the 5 IV which we don't have a forum for yet.
I usually am buying older phones with established guides and hacks to unlock on here. So i simply missed this since i didn't see it plastered everywhere on the front page of the some other sony forums. my bad.
I am not surprised. just ordered the wrong one thinking it didn't matter for the sony brand.
returning mine now. and ordering the 72.
thud1 said:
Yea I am a first time sony buyer. the phone i have is actually the 5 IV which we don't have a forum for yet.
I usually am buying older phones with established guides and hacks to unlock on here. So i simply missed this since i didn't see it plastered everywhere on the front page of the some other sony forums. my bad.
I am not surprised. just ordered the wrong one thinking it didn't matter for the sony brand.
returning mine now. and ordering the 72.
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It's the same reason I returned US version and bought international version ct72 . So make sure about bands supports for 71 it has 66 which is TMobile and band 41 which i get some good speed depending on the location I'm in.
same here I wanted to root and Use Repainter app and change fonts and I did have the CT62, but I return it back to Sony and bought the CT72, sad that sony doesn`t allow the bootloader to be unlocked on the CT62.
2015Ducatimulti said:
same here I wanted to root and Use Repainter app and change fonts and I did have the CT62, but I return it back to Sony and bought the CT72, sad that sony doesn`t allow the bootloader to be unlocked on the CT62.
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Right i thought they allowed bootloader unlocked on any Xperia really sucks that they didn't allowed it on US specially if I'm paying 1600+ on it lol
raven213 said:
Right i thought they allowed bootloader unlocked on any Xperia really sucks that they didn't allowed it on US specially if I'm paying 1600+ on it lol
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my exact thoughts, 1600.00, no thanks, buy the CT72 and save some money, only thing is you don`t get the USA warranty when you buy the Non-US version, and some missing 5G band`s and the missing MMWave bands
As @2015Ducatimulti mentioned, there is something missing there between the two version.
There is Hardware differences between CT72 and CT62. The US version supports has mmW support and also more bands that are available in the US such as band 2, 66, and 71 used by TMO in addition to mmW 260 and 261.
if your carrier does not have use of these bands and mmW frequencies, then the CT72 should still work as long as you flash the US version ROM. otherwise, you will have coverage issues due and high call drops due to the limited US band support
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As @2015Ducatimulti mentioned, there is something missing there between the two version.
There is Hardware differences between CT72 and CT62. The US version supports has mmW support and also more bands that are available in the US such as band 2, 66, and 71 used by TMO in addition to mmW 260 and 261.
if your carrier does not have use of these bands and mmW frequencies, then the CT72 should still work as long as you flash the US version ROM. otherwise, you will have coverage issues due and high call drops due to the limited US band support
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Flashing US ROM on ct72 will give you signal issues. So far i haven't found a way to get signal working on it.
That might make sense since the RF hardware is different between them and hence the software might not work as expected
FWIW, I just got the Xperia 1 IV, CT-72, using it on AT&T (primary subscriber, no MVNO). Just using the stock ROM, didn't flash any other ROMS.
So far I appear to have 5G as well as VoLTE. No VoWIFI, but I don't care about that anyway.
I'll use it for another week or so to see if AT&T decides to shutdown service for a non whitelisted device, but so far so good. And it was $840 new, vs $1600 for the USA version, so a HUGE cost difference
I by the way did first have to do the trick where you disable dual-sim and only use the primary SIM slot.
Sakete said:
FWIW, I just got the Xperia 1 IV, CT-72, using it on AT&T (primary subscriber, no MVNO). Just using the stock ROM, didn't flash any other ROMS.
So far I appear to have 5G as well as VoLTE. No VoWIFI, but I don't care about that anyway.
I'll use it for another week or so to see if AT&T decides to shutdown service for a non whitelisted device, but so far so good. And it was $840 new, vs $1600 for the USA version, so a HUGE cost difference
I by the way did first have to do the trick where you disable dual-sim and only use the primary SIM slot.
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Is your CT-72 still working on AT&T?
tonysunshine said:
Is your CT-72 still working on AT&T?
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Mine is still going fine on Att elite
David.k20z1 said:
Mine is still going fine on Att elite
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XQ-CT72 No go on Cricket. Data works fine but no calls.