Has anyone experienced on overly aggressive closing of apps by the OS on the phone?
I run "Conversations" as an XMPP messenger on my phone (https://f-droid.org/repository/browse/?fdfilter=conversations&fdid=eu.siacs.conversations). Previously, had it installed on a couple Samsung devices without issue.
Eventually, after the Honor 5x is inactive, Conversations will be closed and I cannot receive messages until the app is loaded again. Even when telling the app to keep itself in the foreground (by way of notification drawer), the OS still closes the app when the phone is inactive for a while.
I would assume this issue is with EMUI, but I am not sure. Can anyone else shed some light on this?
It is an EMUI thing. You will do yourself a huge favor if you go to settings>Power saving>Protected apps, hit "menu" and "Add all"
rdbud said:
It is an EMUI thing. You will do yourself a huge favor if you go to settings>Power saving>Protected apps, hit "menu" and "Add all"
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@rdbud, Thank you, that appears to be right on. This phone is my wife's phone, and she confirmed that the app stays running now. Good find.
terrypearson said:
@rdbud, Thank you, that appears to be right on. This phone is my wife's phone, and she confirmed that the app stays running now. Good find.
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You can also "lock" an app in memory by hitting the Recents app square and then sliding down on any app. It will place a lock icon next to the app to show it is protected.
terrypearson said:
@rdbud, Thank you, that appears to be right on. This phone is my wife's phone, and she confirmed that the app stays running now. Good find.
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Keep in mind that it won't protect any subsequent apps you install. So if you install any new apps, you should go back in and make sure it's protected.
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honordevice said:
You can also "lock" an app in memory by hitting the Recents app square and then sliding down on any app. It will place a lock icon next to the app to show it is protected.
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That's an interesting feature, but is it the same as the protecting the apps in the settings? Or does it keep that app locked open so switching is easier? I have all my apps protected, but none of them have locks in the Recents app.
The only true solution that many dont know is
Just open the "phone accelerator" app .
Then open settings and then protected apps
And check the app that u want to run in the background .
Once done , now check ! U wil be able to receive notifications from the app u wished to run in the background.
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I have ICS 4.0.3. and I want to know how to close App?
How do you know for sure this App is closed, without having to go in Settings and close it there every single time manually.
You don't.
Android handles management of apps and will close them when it needs too. It will also pre-launch apps so they are ready to use. So no need to worry about closing them. Just go back to the home screen or whatever and don't worry about it.
If something is misbehaving you can go into your Settings > Apps find you app and hit Force Close, but that should not need to be done often. If you do then find a different app.
Even if you do this to "close apps" Android will probably just relaunch them in a few minutes anyway. You just don't need to "close" apps. That is a traditional PC convention and does not translate to Android.
nixtip said:
I have ICS 4.0.3. and I want to know how to close App?
How do you know for sure this App is closed, without having to go in Settings and close it there every single time manually.
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Click on recent app tab, find the app that you wish to close, swipe left or right to close it. Love this feature so much.
Open the recent apps button at the bottom (3rd from left and looks like 2 boxes) and then swipe the app you want closed to the left or right.
Edit: Crap. Lol someone beat me to it
andyxover said:
Click on recent app tab, find the app that you wish to close, swipe left or right to close it. Love this feature so much.
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Pretty sure that is just a list of apps you opened recently. Swiping them off just removes them from the list, and doesn't stop the application from running. You can test this by swiping it off then going into your Settings > Apps. For me, the app is still running even when swiped from the list. Also things stay there even when an App has actually been forced close.
UmbraeSoulsbane said:
Pretty sure that is just a list of apps you opened recently. Swiping them off just removes them from the list, and doesn't stop the application from running. You can test this by swiping it off then going into your Settings > Apps. For me, the app is still running even when swiped from the list. Also things stay there even when an App has actually been forced close.
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Correct this doesn't close the app but just gets rid of it in the list of recent apps.
UmbraeSoulsbane said:
Swiping them off just removes them from the list, and doesn't stop the application from running.
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I didn't know this! Thats good to know. I won't bother doing this after hit the home button then!
wgr73 said:
I didn't know this! Thats good to know. I won't bother doing this after hit the home button then!
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LOL. Yeah, when I first saw this I was kinda confused by it. I know how Android manages memory and apps, so I didn't understand what it was for: especially with prominent placement on the System Bar. I guess they just felt they needed something for people used to closing apps.
This would be great for people that run 3 or 4 apps all the time since they would not need to have them on the Home screen or go to the App Drawer.
Android does a good job managing memory, so you should only need to close apps that are having problems. This can be a hard transition from the Windows world.
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I didn't know this! Thats good to know. I won't bother doing this after hit the home button then!
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Now this isn't necessarily true.
I played w/ this a bit and put the Task Manager widget on the home screen. On some apps, if you remove them from the recent apps list, the task disappears from the Task Manager maybe 5-10 seconds later. Now while I realize that not all running apps necessarily show up on the Task Manager, I've noticed that if an app/process is ended on the Task Manager, it is no longer listed under running apps in the settings.
And when you use the Task Manager to close certain apps, they'll still show up in the Recent Apps list but instead of showing a proper image of app activity, it'll be just a blank black square. When you tap that square, it just opens the app as new.
I used the app called system to verify and swiping does close them....awsome.
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I just discovered that you can get rid of apps from the recent apps menu (the square button next to the home button) by swiping them to the side. I don't know why this makes me so retardedly happy, but I am sure that SOMEONE else out there will also appreciate this tidbit of information.
Anyone else have any nuggets of joy to share?
I liked that trick also when I first found out. Another thing too is that you can hold down the app in recent menu and a quicksetting will come up to let you remove it from list or look at app info.
Remember though, this only removes it from recent apps list. It doesn't close down the app itself.
Does it really matter though performance wise? I Always thought Android puts background apps into an "idle" state where they dont take up any resources until used? Although it is cool for people with OCD like me
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I liked that trick also when I first found out. Another thing too is that you can hold down the app in recent menu and a quicksetting will come up to let you remove it from list or look at app info.
Remember though, this only removes it from recent apps list. It doesn't close down the app itself.
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Yes it does close the app. It just doesn't close background processes of the app.
Swiping an app from recent apps menu removes the app from cached memory, but keeps the background sync's (if it has any) still running. So you can kill off Facebook, but it's background sync (that would be started during system boot up anyway) remains.
You can test it, if you swipe browser from recent app's memory, it has to reload the page it was on. Same with Facebook app. But Facebook app's background process keeps running until you 'force stop' it.
Android application architecture runs in two layers, foreground and background processes. UI and the things you can use are written to memory when focus is lost from those apps, clearing them from recent apps also clears the memory those apps take at the time.
Is it useful? Yeah, for some things. But it won't improve your performance in any real noticeable way. Best you can do is swipe away apps that you don't need, keeping only apps that you want to keep in memory should you re-open them again. But that's usually too much micro-management to be worth it.
kristovaher said:
Yes it does close the app. It just doesn't close background processes of the app.
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Perhaps, BUT, not every app in the recent apps list is actually running. That's why many times (most of the time?) the screenshot isn't what you actually see when you select an app from the list--you're really restarting it.
I think it's safest and easiest to just assume that you're really only removing apps from the recent apps list, not actually managing what's running in any way.
DroidHam said:
Does it really matter though performance wise? I Always thought Android puts background apps into an "idle" state where they dont take up any resources until used? Although it is cool for people with OCD like me
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Yeah it doesn't make any difference performance wise, but it makes the menu much more useable for me =D
Thanks for this message, this is my first android device and I've been trying to figure out how to "close" applications. Did a search in here (I think), prime manual search and googled it. I am slightly OCD and like to "close" thinks that I'm not using. Harkens back to my early Windows days when you closed apps to conserve memory.
In the manual it says to close application by clicking on an X in the recent apps menu. Though unless it is super tiny, there isn't one.
redandblack1287 said:
I just discovered that you can get rid of apps from the recent apps menu (the square button next to the home button) by swiping them to the side. I don't know why this makes me so retardedly happy, but I am sure that SOMEONE else out there will also appreciate this tidbit of information.
Anyone else have any nuggets of joy to share?
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if you have the dock, 2 finger gestures on the touchpad act as screen swipes. i.e. swipe two fingers across the tab, the tab changes screens. Also, if you want to actually kill the apps, add teh asus task manager widget to a screen. works great!
elybug said:
In the manual it says to close application by clicking on an X in the recent apps menu. Though unless it is super tiny, there isn't one.
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That was an ASUS Honeycomb customization. It went away in ICS...
redandblack1287 said:
I just discovered that you can get rid of apps from the recent apps menu (the square button next to the home button) by swiping them to the side. I don't know why this makes me so retardedly happy, but I am sure that SOMEONE else out there will also appreciate this tidbit of information.
Anyone else have any nuggets of joy to share?
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if you have the dock, 2 finger gestures on the touchpad act as screen swipes. i.e. swipe two fingers across the tab, the tab changes screens. Also, if you want to actually kill the apps, add the asus task manager widget to a screen. works great!
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Yes it does close the app. It just doesn't close background processes of the app.
Swiping an app from recent apps menu removes the app from cached memory, but keeps the background sync's (if it has any) still running. So you can kill off Facebook, but it's background sync (that would be started during system boot up anyway) remains.
You can test it, if you swipe browser from recent app's memory, it has to reload the page it was on. Same with Facebook app. But Facebook app's background process keeps running until you 'force stop' it.
Android application architecture runs in two layers, foreground and background processes. UI and the things you can use are written to memory when focus is lost from those apps, clearing them from recent apps also clears the memory those apps take at the time.
Is it useful? Yeah, for some things. But it won't improve your performance in any real noticeable way. Best you can do is swipe away apps that you don't need, keeping only apps that you want to keep in memory should you re-open them again. But that's usually too much micro-management to be worth it.
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that's what I meant. I should of been more clear then. just swiping it doesn't close down app "Completely", meaning no background process either. you have to use a task manager or Force stop in order to "Truly" close n stop an app from running.
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In the manual it says to close application by clicking on an X in the recent apps menu. Though unless it is super tiny, there isn't one.
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There isn't any in ICS, only in HC.
i didn't know that either until last week! ice cream is awesome :]
Conduitz said:
if you have the dock, 2 finger gestures on the touchpad act as screen swipes. i.e. swipe two fingers across the tab, the tab changes screens. Also, if you want to actually kill the apps, add teh asus task manager widget to a screen. works great!
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You know.....that Asus task manager widget does not work on mine. It doesn't matter if I press x next to one app or select kill all - nothing happpens. I think mine is broken
I removed it from one of my home screens, no need to have it if it doesn't work
demandarin said:
that's what I meant. I should of been more clear then. just swiping it doesn't close down app "Completely", meaning no background process either. you have to use a task manager or Force stop in order to "Truly" close n stop an app from running.
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It's a bit different though, because those background processes will (likely) already be running even if you don't start the app. Most of those background processes are started by boot activity in Android and others are started by scheduling activities (such as alarms or certain notifications and sync). These will be usually restarted once app is started again too (after Force Close) and if they are not already running (and they usually are).
Force Close is unnecessary unless you know that a certain app is bad for the system and was run accidentally, etc.
Hello,
I've been an Android user since the Moto X, but I'm new to the Galaxy S4 and Jellybean. My question is about the app drawer on the S4. I've noticed that there's a blank space where an app would typically be on the second page of my app drawer. It's where the very last app should be on the second page right after the play store app. This blank space is nudged between the Play Store app on the second page and the Polaris Office app alongside more system apps on the third page. I don't understand why there's a blank spot here where normally an app should be. I tried getting the latests OTA update and resetting the phone to factory default settings. This seemed to fix the issue temporarily but it just came back yesterday evening seemingly at random. It's very frustrating. It looks to me like spyware, but I keep a very secure password on the device and I'm the only one who knows it. Any idea what is causing this?
$corpio said:
Hello,
I've been an Android user since the Moto X, but I'm new to the Galaxy S4 and Jellybean. My question is about the app drawer on the S4. I've noticed that there's a blank space where an app would typically be on the second page of my app drawer. It's where the very last app should be on the second page right after the play store app. This blank space is nudged between the Play Store app on the second page and the Polaris Office app alongside more system apps on the third page. I don't understand why there's a blank spot here where normally an app should be. I tried getting the latests OTA update and resetting the phone to factory default settings. This seemed to fix the issue temporarily but it just came back yesterday evening seemingly at random. It's very frustrating. It looks to me like spyware, but I keep a very secure password on the device and I'm the only one who knows it. Any idea what is causing this?
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Tap the menu button and sort the list, if you delete an app or disable it will make a void in your default app list setup. Nothing wrong with your phone.
/edit.. I just looked, Open your app drawer and select "View type" Default is Customizable grid, select Alphabetical and it will sort and remove the blank spot.
magneticzero said:
Tap the menu button and sort the list, if you delete an app or disable it will make a void in your default app list setup. Nothing wrong with your phone.
/edit.. I just looked, Open your app drawer and select "View type" Default is Customizable grid, select Alphabetical and it will sort and remove the blank spot.
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I switched to alphabetical sort mode and everything was continuous, and then when I switch back to the customizable grid the void is still there. When I try to edit the sort of the apps, it won't let me put an app in the void space. Is that normal?
I think that is how it is. Messing with it now and seeing if I can move stuff around or not hmmmmmm
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$corpio said:
Hello,
I've been an Android user since the Moto X, but I'm new to the Galaxy S4 and Jellybean. My question is about the app drawer on the S4. I've noticed that there's a blank space where an app would typically be on the second page of my app drawer. It's where the very last app should be on the second page right after the play store app. This blank space is nudged between the Play Store app on the second page and the Polaris Office app alongside more system apps on the third page. I don't understand why there's a blank spot here where normally an app should be. I tried getting the latests OTA update and resetting the phone to factory default settings. This seemed to fix the issue temporarily but it just came back yesterday evening seemingly at random. It's very frustrating. It looks to me like spyware, but I keep a very secure password on the device and I'm the only one who knows it. Any idea what is causing this?
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How did you have the Moto X before the Galaxy s4
magneticzero said:
I think that is how it is. Messing with it now and seeing if I can move stuff around or not hmmmmmm
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I'm wondering if the IMDB app could have caused the void. I noticed that it's the only app that came with my phone that is placed after all the apps I downloaded myself. Maybe it jumped out of place on the second page somehow.
JaeKay said:
How did you have the Moto X before the Galaxy s4
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moto droid x more than likely
Recently, I'm unable to auto-hibernate Facebook app. But if I manually long-press the Facebook row and then tap the Z button, the Facebook app can be hibernated. Anyone knows if it's Facebook problem or Greenify issue?
itandy said:
Recently, I'm unable to auto-hibernate Facebook app. But if I manually long-press the Facebook row and then tap the Z button, the Facebook app can be hibernated. Anyone knows if it's Facebook problem or Greenify issue?
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It is neither. Rather it is by design. Any app busy in the background (not merely running), will show up as "working". After it completes its work, the status will change to 'will be hibernated after screen off'. It will then be automatically hibernated once the screen is off.
This is to allow apps to complete their work before being hibernated.
If you don't want Facebook to even work, highlight it and then tap the three dot menu at the top and choose 'ignore the app's state'.
I am not responsible for any consequences.
tnsmani said:
It is neither. Rather it is by design. Any app busy in the background (not merely running), will show up as "working". After it completes its work, the status will change to 'will be hibernated after screen off'. It will then be automatically hibernated once the screen is off.
This is to allow apps to complete their work before being hibernated.
If you don't want Facebook to even work, highlight it and then tap the three dot menu at the top and choose 'ignore the app's state'.
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I'm unable to find the 'ignore the app's state' from the menu
itandy said:
I'm unable to find the 'ignore the app's state' from the menu
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Which version of Greenify are you running?
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Which version of Greenify are you running?
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2.8 beta 2
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2.8 beta 2
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itandy said:
2.8 beta 2
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I am on the same version. So it seems to have an issue with your setup.
After ignoring an app's state, when you highlight it again, you will get an option for reconsidering its state as in the screen shot below.
I have no idea why it is not showing up for you.
itandy said:
I'm unable to find the 'ignore the app's state' from the menu
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Highlight Facebook, tap the Zzz (if Facebook is working). Now comes a lil Window where you can click "ignore the app's state"
Black_Focus_X said:
Highlight Facebook, tap the Zzz (if Facebook is working). Now comes a lil Window where you can click "ignore the app's state"
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Sorry I don't get you. What do you mean by lil Window?
itandy said:
Sorry I don't get you. What do you mean by lil Window?
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My english is not so good sorry. If you highlighted Facebook, than tap the 3 dots right, tap "put into hibernation now", after this must come a popup where you can mark "ignore the app's state"
This one
Black_Focus_X said:
My english is not so good sorry. If you highlighted Facebook, than tap the 3 dots right, tap "put into hibernation now", after this must come a popup where you can mark "ignore the app's state"
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I had already suggested that and he had clarified that he doesn't get that option.
@itandy
Try what Black_Focus_X said earlier. When Facebook shows up as 'working', highlight it and then tap the 'zzz' at the bottom. You should get a pop-up window telling you that it is unsafe to hibernate an app in such conditions and also giving the option to ignore its state. Tick the option box, then OK.
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This one
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Yes, this is like what tnsmani said. But I'm unable to find this option in the menu.
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I had already suggested that and he had clarified that he doesn't get that option.
@itandy
Try what Black_Focus_X said earlier. When Facebook shows up as 'working', highlight it and then tap the 'zzz' at the bottom. You should get a pop-up window telling you that it is unsafe to hibernate an app in such conditions and also giving the option to ignore its state. Tick the option box, then OK.
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Oh, I finally made it. The trick is to tap the Facebook row and then the Circular Zzz button at the bottom instead of long-pressing the Facebook app followed by the Zzz at the upper right hand corner. Thanks both of you guys!
itandy said:
Oh, I finally made it. The trick is to tap the Facebook row and then the Circular Zzz button at the bottom instead of long-pressing the Facebook app followed by the Zzz at the upper right hand corner. Thanks both of you guys!
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That is what I was telling you from the beginning, tap, highlight not long press.
Anyway all is well that ends well.
Managed to hibernate but found that it is still running from Running Service
Using MM and 2.8 beta3
chding said:
Managed to hibernate but found that it is still running from Running Service
Using MM and 2.8 beta3
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Deactivate it on Developer Options>Inactive Apps.
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Not sure about consequences since I don't use it.
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Deactivate it on Developer Options>Inactive Apps.
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Not sure about consequences since I don't use it.
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I'm having the same issue as the OP, despite ignoring the app's state in greenify and deactivating it from developer options -> inactive apps, Facebook still shows up in running services.
I have this problem also but I'm running 2.7.1. Where can you get 2.8?
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@itandy
Try what Black_Focus_X said earlier. When Facebook shows up as 'working', highlight it and then tap the 'zzz' at the bottom. You should get a pop-up window telling you that it is unsafe to hibernate an app in such conditions and also giving the option to ignore its state. Tick the option box, then OK.
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I've now installed what I think is 2.8 beta 3 bit still can't get this to apppear, perhaps because I can't get Facebook to appear in the working state. It does however keep getting started by other apps. I shouldn't have to stop the services manually in developer settings. So how is this accomplished? The whole reason I have Greenify is to stop Facebook and other data stealing from running rampant when I'm not using them.
chding said:
Managed to hibernate but found that it is still running from Running Service
Using MM and 2.8 beta3
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MrMarques01 said:
I'm having the same issue as the OP, despite ignoring the app's state in greenify and deactivating it from developer options -> inactive apps, Facebook still shows up in running services.
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Blario said:
It does however keep getting started by other apps. I shouldn't have to stop the services manually in developer settings. So how is this accomplished? The whole reason I have Greenify is to stop Facebook and other data stealing from running rampant when I'm not using them.
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When it's awoken by another app, it will say "woken by ....." underneath the app name. If you tap on facebook in greenify main screen, then tap the scissors icon in top right of the page, a pop-up will explain then allow you to cut off the wake-up path. Play around with it and you'll find that cutting some wake-up paths is good and cutting others will stop notifications.
I currently have these paths cut-off for facebook:
...notify.MessengerForegroundProvider
...provider.PlatformProviderBase
What wake-up paths have other people cut?
what is the fastest, easiest way to force stop an app ?? i know settings, apps, find app, but with a bunch of apps its a pita. any other tricks, shortcuts, safe apps, or any other ideas?? not looking at hiding the notification, but stopping the app.
say 2 things, new to oreo and s9, last phone was an s7. anyways, if i had a program running in the notifications, say for my motorcycle gps, tomtom, i was able to long press the notification, then go to app data and force stop. not seeing that anymore.
Trying to find the fastest way to force stop an app running, that has a notification. for example this one says connect device. I am not trying to hide the notification, but force close it when i don't want it running. for example this app gives me live traffic, sometimes i want it, sometimes i don't.
thanks much for the time
settings, developer options, running services
that seems to work too, and the app i want to end is on the first page.
seems easier than the apps, and scrolling down to the Ms
hmm
Greenify, then you can set what you want to force close, and then make a home screen button. Bam it easily blows them away.
Recents, long press the app icon on the left, wait for the i info letter to appear on the right, press i, force stop.
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laureanop said:
Recents, long press the app icon on the left, wait for the i info letter to appear on the right, press i, force stop.
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love it, thanks so much !!!!
I'm dumb
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world be nice to find an app that shows ALL opened apps and services and can completely close it in one click.
thank you so much!!!!
I just moved from s7. on s7 android 7 I can long press shortcut on home and can tab on i icon That menu has removed.
The apps you actively use are closed when you swipe them away in recents. You dont need any fancy force closing. Try it. Open recents, swipe away the app, when you open it again it loads from scratch. Or am I missing something?
Smashing the phone on the ground.
Jonathan-H said:
The apps you actively use are closed when you swipe them away in recents. You dont need any fancy force closing. Try it. Open recents, swipe away the app, when you open it again it loads from scratch. Or am I missing something?
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That not correct. Some application even you remove it from recent app it still run in background.
In my case Facebook Messenger is often cause media sound issue, after end call sometime media sound route to earpiece. Two way to solve that is kill the app or restart phone.
You can use my apps Killapps and Hibernator