Are the function of there 2 the same? I am asking because I am using both now and I want to know if they work the same. @oasisfeng
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I think not.
I've not tried naptime myself, I guess it tweaks the internal parameters of the stock Doze mode. Correct me if I guess wrong.
In the opposite, Aggressive Doze does not change any of the parameters at present. It is driven by pure program logic, cooperative with Greenify's hibernation strategy. That's why it requires a persistent background service.
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also i would like to know that's the difference between these 2 apps about the doze function. what's the best one?
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If I've understood correctly there's no need to hibernate anything in order to user aggressive doze. So I don't use hibernation at all, but instead would like to user aggressive doze.
I'm rooted and have checked the on-the-go mode. I have also enabled the notification.
But there's no doze notification after the screen has been off for few minutes. How do I know if it is dozing or not?
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tofu said:
If I've understood correctly there's no need to hibernate anything in order to user aggressive doze. So I don't use hibernation at all, but instead would like to user aggressive doze.
I'm rooted and have checked the on-the-go mode. I have also enabled the notification.
But there's no doze notification after the screen has been off for few minutes. How do I know if it is dozing or not?
thanks
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I use Automagic (same idea as Tasker, but I find it much easier to understand and use). It has a trigger for when the phone enters doze mode (and another for when it exits). I can use these triggers to perform conditional actions like enable/disable Bluetooth/WiFi etc., or, say, make a sound, send a message to my Pebble watch, etc. In my case (unrooted phone) I have it make sounds. Using Automagic to do this kind of stuff does not seem to mess up the phone going into/coming out of doze mode.
You can also enable a Greenify notification that shows when the phone goes in/out of aggressive doze...
WibblyW said:
I use Automagic (same idea as Tasker, but I find it much easier to understand and use). It has a trigger for when the phone enters doze mode (and another for when it exits). I can use these triggers to perform conditional actions like enable/disable Bluetooth/WiFi etc., or, say, make a sound, send a message to my Pebble watch, etc. In my case (unrooted phone) I have it make sounds. Using Automagic to do this kind of stuff does not seem to mess up the phone going into/coming out of doze mode.
You can also enable a Greenify notification that shows when the phone goes in/out of aggressive doze...
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Thanks. It seems that it works now. I just needed to wait for a longer time.
Just remember that doze is not a full replacement for hybernation. It may prevent wakelocks but bad apps can still run background processes loading CPU and consuming battery when phone periodically wakes up from doze as well as every time you are using your phone.
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I know that by the nature of doze, the device wakes up every hour or so.
Also shallow hibernation says it will allow the apps to wake every so often. My question is if shallow hibernation causes doze to wake up more often than it normally would? Thank you
That's a good question... There are also two settings for aggressive doze I wondered if both should be ticked when on xposed
RFrancis said:
That's a good question... There are also two settings for aggressive doze I wondered if both should be ticked when on xposed
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I believe I can help you understand the two settings on aggressive doze. The first option enables "Doze on the go" which allows aggressive doze to work while your device is moving, the second option provides debug notifications when your device enters doze mode. If you are in Boost mode you can also enable "Doze on the go" through the Xposed options.
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I believe I can help you understand the two settings on aggressive doze. The first option enables "Doze on the go" which allows aggressive doze to work while your device is moving, the second option provides debug notifications when your device enters doze mode. If you are in Boost mode you can also enable "Doze on the go" through the Xposed options.
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Do you have any background workings as a "Google expert" on Google support forums by any chance?
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pure.by said:
Do you have any background workings as a "Google expert" on Google support forums by any chance?
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I invented Google. Schmidt, Page, and Brin merely stole my idea
hi i have a noobish question! is it necessary to enable aggressive doze on nougat roms?? or enabling it give good battery backup ?
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hi i have a simple question is it necessary to enable aggressive doze on nougat roms?? or enabling it give good battery backup ?
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Nougat by itself takes care of apps with Doze unlike MM. So no need to enable aggressive doze in Greenify. If enabled, it will result in some issues.
This is the official answer: https://greenify.uservoice.com/knowledgebase/articles/828360-what-is-aggressive-doze
It seems that enabling aggressive doze will make it enter doze faster. Enabling doze on the go will make it stay in deep doze. It seems to still be applicable in nougat.
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This is the official answer: https://greenify.uservoice.com/knowledgebase/articles/828360-what-is-aggressive-doze
It seems that enabling aggressive doze will make it enter doze faster. Enabling doze on the go will make it stay in deep doze. It seems to still be applicable in nougat.
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The referenced FAQ dates back to Android 6 (Marshmallow).
Android 7+ enables "doze on the go" functionality by default. Most devices will enter doze sooner and wake less often. That said, ticking 'Doze on the go' on post MM builds shouldn't cause any issues.
Aggressive doze is a different beast. Not only will the device drop into doze sooner it will wake less often for 'maintenance windows'. This can lead to lag when the device is explicitly woken as deferred tasks simultaneously launch and complete for resources. Net result is a less refined user experience with negligible (if any) battery savings.
IF i want to enable aggressive doze on greenify, should i disable doze from dev options first? Or it doesnt matter? And what about advanced optimization in battery options?
And what about doze on the go? I dont think this feature is enabled on OREO..
I have Oneplus 5 with OREO 8.0.1
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IF i want to enable aggressive doze on greenify, should i disable doze from dev options first? Or it doesnt matter? And what about advanced optimization in battery options?
And what about doze on the go? I dont think this feature is enabled on OREO..
I have Oneplus 5 with OREO 8.0.1
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Doze on the go functionality is imbedded into native/stock doze on Android 7+; the Greenify toggle is primarily targeted Android 6.x although it may offer some marginal benefits on higher revs (none that I have noticed).
Simply enable Aggressive Doze in Greenify and observe behaviors - preferably over several days - before turning other knobs and dials. In general there is no need to mess with the other options you mention.
Hi all,
I was wondering if I go for Greenify + servicely, are they a good combination?
Understood that servicely app is under Franco, Franco kernel creator, I was thinking that will the app compatible with kernel other than Franco kernel?
Servicely doesnt depend on rom or kernel, it just tries to supresses the wakelocks from selected apps and services.
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Servicely doesnt depend on rom or kernel, it just tries to supresses the wakelocks from selected apps and services.
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OK, understood. Will try this combination and see how.
Don't use Greenify on Pie. It's basically useless because of how OS optimizes the battery usage. Also, the developer deprecated it.
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Don't use Greenify on Pie. It's basically useless because of how OS optimizes the battery usage. Also, the developer deprecated it.
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I see, so is there any good one to go?
thomas140 said:
I see, so is there any good one to go?
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Naptime works fine alone since you only need to optimize sleep behavior. The Pie itself can perfectly manage apps' battery usage already.
I'm using Servicely + Naptime during the night, and I get about 0,3% idle drain! So f.....ing amazing!
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Hi all,
I was wondering if I go for Greenify + servicely, are they a good combination?
Understood that servicely app is under Franco, Franco kernel creator, I was thinking that will the app compatible with kernel other than Franco kernel?
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I use both, together with franco kernel, and battery life is awesome. I could use Naptime too in place of Greenify. I don't know about it being deprecated, it still is alive in the Play Store.
I use Greenify more for its Doze On the Go feature, I don't know if Pie caters for that. Naptime has it too.
On my Huawei phone which is unrooted, I use Naptime since Greenify's Doze On the Go is inactive.
Naptime:
"Why?
Because why the hell not?
Doze is amazing but with it has its quirks. It can take at least 2 hours to kick in (if the device is stationary, not charging etc). If you move around, even with the screen off, doze won't kick in, so there are a lot of potential battery saving opportunities lost, gone with the wind."
For Greenify :
"Doze on the Go
Android system uses a low power "significant motion sensor" (if present in hardware) to track movement and exits Doze Mode if significant movement is detected, because the stock Doze Mode is designed for battery-saving in stationary state. Doze on the Go effectively removes this restriction and keeps your device in Doze Mode even during movement.
Android 7.0 introduced native support of Doze on the Go and a new light doze mode, which blocks network access but not wake-up timers of the app. When movement is detected, it exits deep doze and keeps in light doze, and then goes back into deep doze after device is stationary for some time. The Greenify version of "Doze on the Go" will always keep your device in deep doze on Android 7.0, regardless of movement."
Using greenify on pie will likely break **** tbh