Has any tried charging honor 5x with 2amp charger??
How much time does it took to charge fully..??
With stock 1amp it took 3hrs to charge fully....as i know snapdragon 615 nd 616 support quick charge 2.0...can it be utilized with 2amp charger??
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Good question. . I have a Qualcomm 2.0 fast charger at home, I'll plug mine into it and check the input
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Good question. . I have a Qualcomm 2.0 fast charger at home, I'll plug mine into it and check the input
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See how much it takes from 5% to 100%..[emoji41] by the way which honor 5x u have KIW-L22 or KIW-L24 ??
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I dont understand what quick charge does exactly. If i have a charger that puts out 3 amps at 5 volts and the battery is 3000 mAh then it should take about an hour to charge if its completely drained. That the basic rule for 1C charging rate for lithiums right? so does the qualcomm charger deliver higher that 1C rates?
It doesn't actually work that way which would be bad for the battery, they charge faster when the battery is low and slow down as its fuller or reach a certain temperature.
As for Qualcomm quick charge, it works a bit different than the USB standard. I'm still not clear on the whole thing, but this is what I gathered:
Quick Charge 3.0
3.2v - 20v dynamic, 200mV increments
Up to 3A
Snapdragon 820, 620, 618, 617, and 430
Quick Charge 2.0
5V / 9V/ 12V
Up to 3A
Snapdragon 200, 400, 410, 615, 800, 801, 805, 808 and 810
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5V/2A, 9V/2A, 12V/1.67A
Quick Charge 2.0 Class A can provide up to 24 watts over a micro USB connector, 36 watts with a Type-C connector, and Class B can reach 60 watts or more.
Quick Charge 1.0
5V, 2A
Snapdragon 600
This is the rating for one 19.5W QuickCharge 3.0 wall charger:
Output (Type-C Quick Charge 3.0 Port): 3.6-6.5V/3A, 6.5-9V/2A, and 9-12V/1.5A
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It doesn't actually work that way which would be bad for the battery, they charge faster when the battery is low and slow down as its fuller or reach a certain temperature.
As for Qualcomm quick charge, it works a bit different than the USB standard. I'm still not clear on the whole thing, but this is what I gathered:
Quick Charge 3.0
3.2v - 20v dynamic, 200mV increments
Up to 3A
Snapdragon 820, 620, 618, 617, and 430
Quick Charge 2.0
5V / 9V/ 12V
Up to 3A
Snapdragon 200, 400, 410, 615, 800, 801, 805, 808 and 810
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5V/2A, 9V/2A, 12V/1.67A
Quick Charge 2.0 Class A can provide up to 24 watts over a micro USB connector, 36 watts with a Type-C connector, and Class B can reach 60 watts or more.
Quick Charge 1.0
5V, 2A
Snapdragon 600
This is the rating for one 19.5W QuickCharge 3.0 wall charger:
Output (Type-C Quick Charge 3.0 Port): 3.6-6.5V/3A, 6.5-9V/2A, and 9-12V/1.5A
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Thanks for the info eksasol.. I guess I was just being simplistic. I always think of battery charging in terms of hobby remote control chargers for lipo's. True, the charger (or phone) must have built in circuitry to ramp up the amperage it delivers according to what it considers to be safe/efficient. It would slow down as it came up to it full voltage. Ive never really worried about it much since i just plug it in at night and get through the day without needing a recharge. Years ago in RC you could buy batteries that could handle 2C and above charging rates pretty easily. I would imagine that number has increased. I figured phone batteries would essentially be the same.
Kounjula Rahul said:
Has any tried charging honor 5x with 2amp charger??
How much time does it took to charge fully..??
With stock 1amp it took 3hrs to charge fully....as i know snapdragon 615 nd 616 support quick charge 2.0...can it be utilized with 2amp charger??
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I did not actually use the supplied 1A charger, but with a standard 1A charger it takes all night.
My tablet 2A charger is way faster (a few hours maybe), honestly I did not take note of the time.
I will try that.
The charger circuit will take care of it, no matter the available current, because tension is fixed to 5V so resulting current will be what the circuit handles.
Not sure about a quickcharge 2.0 charger, don't have one.
idk why i read that it takes them atleast 4-6 hours to fully charge their battery? ehh in an hour mine goes from 6% to like 67% and then the other 30 mins and its done and full. and im just using the charger and cable that came with the phone.
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You did try your Qualcomm 2.0 fast charger adapter ?
I'm using mine with samsung fast charger (the one that came with my note5) and it charges from 70%-100% in 19mins...according to GSam app
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I'm using mine with samsung fast charger (the one that came with my note5) and it charges from 70%-100% in 19mins...according to GSam app
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At that rate (30% in 20 min), it should take around 60 min to reach 80% and (80 min) 1hr 20 min to Fully Charge with that charger.
I swear the original reviews said it took around 2 1/2-3 hrs to charge overnight.
I have to say I have NEVER had a phone last as long as this phone does! The battery lasts forever no matter what I do.
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At that rate (30% in 20 min), it should take around 60 min to reach 80% and (80 min) 1hr 20 min to Fully Charge with that charger.
I swear the original reviews said it took around 2 1/2-3 hrs to charge overnight.
I have to say I have NEVER had a phone last as long as this phone does! The battery lasts forever no matter what I do.
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I haven't manage to kill it yet, but it should take 1hr30mins to fully charge maybe less. That's with a fast charger
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I keep wanting to test how long a full charge takes, using my intelligent Anker charger. I never get the chance. The phone battery life is simply outstanding. This is like my 8th smart phone, and simply blows the rest out of the water. I even have the EUMI battery saving features turned off. A 50% charge can takes about an hour. Old habits of always plugging it in when in the car or my desk means that I can forget about plugging it in at night. Don't worry about battery life or fast charging - they are non issues.
No QC2
I have tried two different adapters that are QC2 compatible (and work fine with Galaxy Note 4) with USB voltage measurement device; all I can get is 5V and 1A max even when the battery charges from 20% on.
So, no go on QC2
Also tried QC2.0 charger. No fast charging. However, Ampre, does report that it manages to pull 1.3A from the variable amperage ports i have.
I finally got my battery down to 0%. With Ampre reporting:
- Using a 0.5 amp charger, I got constant 460mA
- Using the 1.0 amp supplied charger I got 850mA
- Using my Anker 5A IQ charger (i think they license the QC technology) I only got 850mA. I checked and was using a power not data+power cable.
- Using same Anker 5A IQ charger, and a high quality power only Anker cable I got 1850 mA up until 50% charge then 1600 until 65% charge and 1200 until 85% charge. After that it dropped off rapidly 750 at 90%, and 450 at 95%.
Charging when using the phone lightly - occasional call, calendar update, email - consumes around 400 mA. I do not use any of the Honor power saving features. With this in mind:
- 40 min from 0 to 60%
- 1 hour 40 min from 0 to 90%.
Perfectly acceptable to me with the huge battery. GET RID OF YOUR CHEAP POWER CABLES
So IQ or QC chargers do seem to work, and most importantly make sure you have good quality power only cables. I have a drawer full of cables that were fine with older phones and chargers. They are now in the trash.
in china model support quick charge 2
in china model support quick charge 2
Bear100 said:
I finally got my battery down to 0%. With Ampre reporting:
- Using a 0.5 amp charger, I got constant 460mA
- Using the 1.0 amp supplied charger I got 850mA
- Using my Anker 5A IQ charger (i think they license the QC technology) I only got 850mA. I checked and was using a power not data+power cable.
- Using same Anker 5A IQ charger, and a high quality power only Anker cable I got 1850 mA up until 50% charge then 1600 until 65% charge and 1200 until 85% charge. After that it dropped off rapidly 750 at 90%, and 450 at 95%.
Charging when using the phone lightly - occasional call, calendar update, email - consumes around 400 mA. I do not use any of the Honor power saving features. With this in mind:
- 40 min from 0 to 60%
- 1 hour 40 min from 0 to 90%.
Perfectly acceptable to me with the huge battery. GET RID OF YOUR CHEAP POWER CABLES
So IQ or QC chargers do seem to work, and most importantly make sure you have good quality power only cables. I have a drawer full of cables that were fine with older phones and chargers. They are now in the trash.
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+1 this is the same results I experienced. My phone rarely goes below 50% charge in a normal day
thanks guys, guess i'll get it - 120 on sale for prime day
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thanks guys, guess i'll get it - 120 on sale for prime day
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worth the extra post - i can confirm the fast charging - was still doing about a percent a minute between 70% and 80% or so. little laggy during setup, occasionally seems to miss a command but dang for the price i can't complain.
using my zenfone2 fastcharger - rox.
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I have recently been profiling a few USB chargers to figure out which one is the best for rapidly charging my phone. A few threads have pointed to the EP851 charger being something a bit special. I was thinking about it on the drive into work..
The specs say that it charges for 60 minutes talk time in 10 minutes.
The XS has 8.5 hours talktime,
This means the charger can fully charge the phone in 8.5 * 10, 85 minutes
Plugging these values into my Charge Timer app gives an estimated power output of 1235ma, almost identical to the 1211ma of mu cheapo 1500ma charger.
Given this closeness, and the fact that the EP850 is also rated at 1500ma I am conclude that they are the same thing.
So, if you want a fast charger for your XS, and are waiting for the EP851, stop waiting and get a genuine BlackBerry Playbook 2A charger. It is about 10% faster (est 1314ma) and available now.
Charger results
http://vexedbadger.com/?page_id=97
not updated with the estimated EP851 yet
That's throwing some serious power at the battery, is it safe? Will it knacker the battery faster? The PlayBook charger im referring to
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Is it possible that the S has the "boost" pin with its USB connector and the 51 triggers it?
This is my understanding of it. PIN 1 and 4 provide power, 2 and 3 provide data (and 5 provides USB OTG?)
If pin 2 and 3 are not bridged, the phone will charge at the maximum rate as determined safe by the usb 2.0 spec
If pin 2 and 3 are bridged the phone will charge at the maximum rate as determined safe by the phone designers.
Both scenarios are, of course, restricted by the power that the connection can supply. For example, if you plugged the phone into a 1000A charger, I would expect it to only pull about 6? amps
As for "is the Playbook charger is safe?", the Playbook has the same type of battery as the SXS, just a lot bigger. For the Playbook, this charger is considered the slow charger, and a rapid charger that pushes more amps at 12V is available.
Obviously, its your phone so use it how you want. I prefer mine in my pocket instead of tethered to a wall so I am going to use the fastest charger I can.
Just curious if there is an app or something similar that would show how many amps are being provided when charging through a wall charger/USB powered hub? The reason I ask is that I'm thinking of buying a powered USB 3.0 Hub. The adapter that came with our phone says it's 2 Amp, so I am assuming our phone can pull 2 amps for charging. Just wanted to verify in some way that a 2 Amp dedicated port would really work for this phone.
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Just curious if there is an app or something similar that would show how many amps are being provided when charging through a wall charger/USB powered hub? The reason I ask is that I'm thinking of buying a powered USB 3.0 Hub. The adapter that came with our phone says it's 2 Amp, so I am assuming our phone can pull 2 amps for charging. Just wanted to verify in some way that a 2 Amp dedicated port would really work for this phone.
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When I get home, I'll download the kernel source and see if I can find out how much power it draws during charging. I doubt however, that it will draw 2A during charging as most chargers are rated to supply more power than the phone will accept.
Yeah, 2A seems like that could melt a battery charging that fast. Someone sent me a private message and told me to try CurrentWidget. I threw that on the phone and it registers as 1A while charging. But it appears like the widget doesn't break it down with decimals. For instance it could be charging with 1.8A and wouldn't know it. I put it in a standard USB port and it reported as charging with 0 Amps but the battery was indeed charging.
I took a quick look at the N7100 (International Note 2) source posted on Github by CM and it looks like AC charger is 650mA, USB is 450mA. It's a little hard to tell what exactly it's using for charging, so I'll try to verify that when I get home and have a chance to take a better look.
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Yeah, 2A seems like that could melt a battery charging that fast. Someone sent me a private message and told me to try CurrentWidget. I threw that on the phone and it registers as 1A while charging. But it appears like the widget doesn't break it down with decimals. For instance it could be charging with 1.8A and wouldn't know it. I put it in a standard USB port and it reported as charging with 0 Amps but the battery was indeed charging.
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A 3100mAh Lithium Ion battery can easily handle a full 2A charge rate. The ideal charge profile for Lithium Ion is a CC/CV profile, starts at constant current between like 3V and 4V, which most LI batters can take a rate of 1C, meaning it can handle a charge rate of 3.1A, recommended charge rate to achieve the most possible charge/discharge cycles is usually 0.2C so for a 3100mAh battery that would be 620mA. Once the charge gets to the correct voltage it gets to constant voltage and charges until termination current usually in the 100mA range. So yes, it can handle a 2A charge no problem.
Hey there. I very much appreciate that breakdown. Makes me wonder why they dropped the amps so much during charge.
bose301s said:
recommended charge rate to achieve the most possible charge/discharge cycles is usually 0.2C so for a 3100mAh battery that would be 620mA.
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If this is true (first time I've seen this anywhere), that would line up great with the 650mA max charge rate I found. Also, I downloaded the VZW source, and it doesn't look to significantly different from the N7100 source, at least as far as the charger stuff is concerned, so I would say they both probably have a max charge rate of 650mA.
I appreciate the info and time you both put into this. I guess it means a 2A usb port will be slight overkill. Even changing the charge rate to a higher value seems to indicate a lower battery life. Makes you wonder how apple did it's math for the ipads charge rate. The battery must be huge to accommodate a 1.1A charge rate. Or they are sacrificing battery life for fast charging.
Wont the kernel dictate the charge rate no matter what the charger is rated at?
If the kernel is set for a charge rate of 650mA (0.650A), then why does the Note 2 have a more powerful 2A wall charger, while the GS3 has a 1A wall charger.
FAUguy said:
If the kernel is set for a charge rate of 650mA (0.650A), then why does the Note 2 have a more powerful 2A wall charger, while the GS3 has a 1A wall charger.
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The original nook color 7" came with a 2A wall charger and that was 2 years ago... both my note 2 and nook color charge about the same rate (quick to 99% and slow to 100). The charger is probably cheaper to make at 2A rather than anything and plus it could be used to charge future devices. Also if you used a 1A charger to charge the note it might possibly get warm/hot from running at near full capacity.
Im using my OLD blackberry 700mA wall charger to charge the phone at night while im sleeping. No problems with heat.
I dont know whats getting worst.
But whats the best replacement charger for xtz that has a higher amps? I already looked in amazon and most of it has a 2a dual and i still want to ask the community
And guys if possible please suggest those has a long data cable
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I cant wait for the next update on XTZ, something like .67
Displa, camera, battery and some tweak, not sure.
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arcsuser said:
I dont know whats getting worst.
But whats the best replacement charger for xtz that has a higher amps? I already looked in amazon and most of it has a 2a dual and i still want to ask the community
And guys if possible please suggest those has a long data cable
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I'm not saying it's the best, but I've been using an old iPad charger (2.1A) for the last 2 months without any problems. I plug the charger into a mains extension lead so I don't need a very long USB lead.
Well i have an iphone5 charger here it says output 5v---1a
Is it ok to charge thendevice with it?
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arcsuser said:
Well i have an iphone5 charger here it says output 5v---1a
Is it ok to charge thendevice with it?
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Any USB wall wart that is 1.5 amps - 2.1 amps (1500 - 2100 mA) @5 volts will work. The more amps the faster it will charge. In a pinch you could use a 1000 mA charger, it will just take longer.
Alright im confused.. Which is faster mA or A?
And by the way im not asking about the power here but a replacement.
Thanks for the infos though
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1000 Milliamps = 1 Amp
1500 mA = 1.5 A
2100 mA = 2.1 A
Pop Quiz: 5A is how many mA? _____
5000mA is how many A? _____
Often wall warts list output in milliamps
Some external batteries list output in Amps.
It's not hard to convert between the two.
dph3055 said:
1000 Milliamps = 1 Amp
1500 mA = 1.5 A
2100 mA = 2.1 A
Pop Quiz: 5A is how many mA? _____
5000mA is how many A? _____
Often wall warts list output in milliamps
Some external batteries list output in Amps.
It's not hard to convert between the two.
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I get it..
5000mA
5A
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I get it..
5000mA
5A
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Congrats, you passed electricity 101.
Keep in mind that batteries can be fickle creatures. Sony delivers the XTZ with a 1500 mA charger. Based on that alone, it's probably best to replace the original charger with another 1500 mA charger. While you can certainly use more than 1500 mA and it will certainly charge faster, in the long run you may end up shortening the battery life. There are only so many charge cycles to be had in any given battery and quick charging can put an extra strain on a battery that wasn't manufactured to suck up power that quickly.
In a pinch, use whatever you have on hand or can find. For everyday charging, its best to default to what the manufacturer recommends.
The Apple 12W one works perfectly fine and charges the tablet so much faster!
There is people here saying it is impossible because of battery electronics.
It's quite simple: They're plain wrong.
Jequan said:
The Apple 12W one works perfectly fine and charges the tablet so much faster!
There is people here saying it is impossible because of battery electronics.
It's quite simple: They're plain wrong.
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Without doubt the best charger I've used for the money. It keeps up with battery drain on heavy use (Full HD video+Net+ others...at the same time) Stock charger does not. At first glance it does seem expensive but does the job very well.
I sent Sony a link to the Apple website for these as it's much better than the POS charger they give you with their £400 "Flagship" tablet. Well worth the £15 price tag.
Jequan said:
The Apple 12W one works perfectly fine and charges the tablet so much faster!
There is people here saying it is impossible because of battery electronics.
It's quite simple: They're plain wrong.
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Well, yes and no. Watts, Amps and Volts are all different measurements for different things and it can be quite confusing to figure out to the uninitiated. Watts is a mathematical calculation based on Ohm's Law. Watts = Volts x Amps
All USB devices accept a maximum of 5 volts. USB standards cap the max power delivered to a device @ 5 volts. Most standard USB ports deliver 5 volts @1 amp. Newer computers and specially designed charging ports can and do deliver more than 1 A via USB but they all deliver a maximum of 5 volts.
12 watts divided by 5 volts = 2.4A
If you look at your charger you'll see the output amps listed as 2.1A or 2100 mA.
Sony's included charger only delivers 1.5A or 1500mA, so yes it charges slower and when the tablet is under high load, has a hard time keeping the battery at 100%.
The real concern here, is what effect does delivering 2.1A of current to the battery day after day have on the useful life expectancy of that battery? I don't know the answer because I don't know anything about the battery that Sony uses. It's possible, if Sony, used a top quality battery, that charging with 2.1A will have no effect at all and Sony just wanted to save a buck or two by including a weaker charger in the box. On the other hand, Sony may have deliberately used a battery designed to accept 1.5A and included an appropriate charger.
As I said in a post above, apart from the battery overheating while charging (if it wasn't designed to charge @ 2.1A) and a reduced useful life of the battery, there shouldn't be any real problem using a "slightly" more powerful charger - up to a point. Charge with too many amps and the battery will probably explode or at the very least melt, potentially causing a fire if left unattended.
When talking to Sony, the question you need to ask, "Is the battery rated for 2.1A or only 1.5A?"
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Well, yes and no. Watts, Amps and Volts are all different measurements for different things and it can be quite confusing to figure out to the uninitiated. Watts is a mathematical calculation based on Ohm's Law. Watts = Volts x Amps
All USB devices accept a maximum of 5 volts. USB standards cap the max power delivered to a device @ 5 volts. Most standard USB ports deliver 5 volts @1 amp. Newer computers and specially designed charging ports can and do deliver more than 1 A via USB but they all deliver a maximum of 5 volts.
12 watts divided by 5 volts = 2.4A
If you look at your charger you'll see the output amps listed as 2.1A or 2100 mA.
Sony's included charger only delivers 1.5A or 1500mA, so yes it charges slower and when the tablet is under high load, has a hard time keeping the battery at 100%.
The real concern here, is what effect does delivering 2.1A of current to the battery day after day have on the useful life expectancy of that battery? I don't know the answer because I don't know anything about the battery that Sony uses. It's possible, if Sony, used a top quality battery, that charging with 2.1A will have no effect at all and Sony just wanted to save a buck or two by including a weaker charger in the box. On the other hand, Sony may have deliberately used a battery designed to accept 1.5A and included an appropriate charger.
As I said in a post above, apart from the battery overheating while charging (if it wasn't designed to charge @ 2.1A) and a reduced useful life of the battery, there shouldn't be any real problem using a "slightly" more powerful charger - up to a point. Charge with too many amps and the battery will probably explode or at the very least melt, potentially causing a fire if left unattended.
When talking to Sony, the question you need to ask, "Is the battery rated for 2.1A or only 1.5A?"
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That i can agree with and it's a risk i am willing to take. There is people who say the 2.1A charger wont affect charging time in a positive way at all. That's what what i refered to when i said it's not true.
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That i can agree with and it's a risk i am willing to take. There is people who say the 2.1A charger wont affect charging time in a positive way at all. That's what what i refered to when i said it's not true.
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Definitely. More current (which is what Amps measure) means faster charge times, as long as what is being charged can accept the current being provided. You should be fine, but what do I know. PM me in six months and let me know if your battery still last a reasonable amount of time - then we'll know.
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Well, yes and no. Watts, Amps and Volts are all different measurements for different things and it can be quite confusing to figure out to the uninitiated. Watts is a mathematical calculation based on Ohm's Law. Watts = Volts x Amps
All USB devices accept a maximum of 5 volts. USB standards cap the max power delivered to a device @ 5 volts. Most standard USB ports deliver 5 volts @1 amp. Newer computers and specially designed charging ports can and do deliver more than 1 A via USB but they all deliver a maximum of 5 volts.
12 watts divided by 5 volts = 2.4A
If you look at your charger you'll see the output amps listed as 2.1A or 2100 mA.
Sony's included charger only delivers 1.5A or 1500mA, so yes it charges slower and when the tablet is under high load, has a hard time keeping the battery at 100%.
The real concern here, is what effect does delivering 2.1A of current to the battery day after day have on the useful life expectancy of that battery? I don't know the answer because I don't know anything about the battery that Sony uses. It's possible, if Sony, used a top quality battery, that charging with 2.1A will have no effect at all and Sony just wanted to save a buck or two by including a weaker charger in the box. On the other hand, Sony may have deliberately used a battery designed to accept 1.5A and included an appropriate charger.
As I said in a post above, apart from the battery overheating while charging (if it wasn't designed to charge @ 2.1A) and a reduced useful life of the battery, there shouldn't be any real problem using a "slightly" more powerful charger - up to a point. Charge with too many amps and the battery will probably explode or at the very least melt, potentially causing a fire if left unattended.
When talking to Sony, the question you need to ask, "Is the battery rated for 2.1A or only 1.5A?"
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You're kinda right, but kinda not....
The charging circuitry inside the tablet is what regulates the charging current, not the 'charger', it will have min and max currents (the thing we plug into the wall that we all call a charger, is really just a power supply, there's no charging circuitry inside it.) That's why it doesn't charge from a standard usb port (which is 500mA) so, if it's charging faster with a 2.1A power supply, then it's obviously designed to do so.
Let's say, for example, the tab can accept a charging current of between 700mA-2.5A. Obviously, the charge time will be slower at 700mA than 2.5A, however, if you were to plug in a 5A power supply, the charging circuitry in the tablet will still only draw the 2.5A its designed to. So, don't worry about giving it too much, it's not possible.
Now, I don't know what the min and max charge currents are, but I can tell you that mine will charge (very slowly) from a 700mA LG charger.
And also, the dock for the tablet states an input of 1800mA,
So, we can assume the min is at least 700mA and the max is at least 1800.
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technaudio,
That's my age showing. Back before some smart guy invented the wheel, we gave a device power and if we gave too much a fuse would blow. I didn't mean to imply that the charging circuit was contained in the wall plug but at the same time, I failed to appreciate that the Tab was designed to prevent an over current situation.
...now let's see what happens when I give this puppy 15A AC...damn, melted the usb cable...
@dph3055
I knew what you meant, but some others on here probably wouldn't.
I've seen a lot of threads saying using a 'too powerful' charger will damage the battery.
It just won't.
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They claim that a 5 mins charge gets you 5 hours of battery. 1 hour and 30 minutes for a complete charge.
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Apperently its like 30 something Watts. Unbox Therapy found this on the charger.
27W to be exact. And on another video review, it showed 5v @ 3A and 9v @ 3A on the charger. So this thing should charge pretty quick and I assume is just using the native USB-C Fast Charge capability which is just fine.
I got confirmation from support that it is using USB-C PD for charging. No QuickCharge.
So this is all false then...
http://www.theandroidsoul.com/essential-phone-fast-charging/
LastQuark said:
So this is all false then...
http://www.theandroidsoul.com/essential-phone-fast-charging/
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Yup, that would be a lie. Just because you have a 835, they would have to still implement QC themselves in order to leverage it.
And I believe Qualcomm loves to charge a pretty penny to flip that bit on for your device.
The device may still charge pretty quickly, but we will need some reports from those who have it in hand.
Anyone with it already have AccuBattery installed and see what the charging speed is plugged into its charger?
uncled1023 said:
I got confirmation from support that it is using USB-C PD for charging. No QuickCharge.
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From a review I watched, they said that the charger is capable of Charing 5 hours of usage time in 5 minutes.
I tried my s8 charger on it, the charger quickly heated up and stopped charging the device
When using the S8 charger, it show slow charging... Sucks
Soooo... What's wrong with using the included charger?
And Samsung uses some other form of Fast Charging that's proprietary to their own devices. It isn't Qualcomm quick charge at least at the generic level. Essential just uses the USB-C 3A fast charge ability which you will have to get separate from both Samsung or QC2/3.0 stuff which is a bit of a pain, but really not surprising. Same as the Nexus/Pixel devices.
It shows Charging Slowly with my Anker PowerPort 10 charger for some reason - even though it is 60W capable and nothing else was plugged into it. I'm really hoping I don't actually have to use the bundled charger just to get it to charge quickly. That would actually be really annoying. I rarely use included chargers since I have Anker PowerPorts everywhere that I need to charge.
I plugged in an Ailey quick charge charger. It first said charging slowly then changed to charging rapidly.
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ack154 said:
It shows Charging Slowly with my Anker PowerPort 10 charger for some reason - even though it is 60W capable and nothing else was plugged into it. I'm really hoping I don't actually have to use the bundled charger just to get it to charge quickly. That would actually be really annoying. I rarely use included chargers since I have Anker PowerPorts everywhere that I need to charge.
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That's because it will never fast charge a USB-C Fast Charge device. You need something like this since this device does not have Qualcomm quick charge.
That 60W charger doesn't really support any modern Quick Charge, it just supports the max 2.4A charging for things like Tablets and whatnot.
For those using Quick Charge to the PH-1, it is only compatible with QC 4.0 and not QC 3.0 or below. QC 4.0 is compatible with Power Delivery (PD) that PH-1 uses.
27W USB Charger
Just got mine today... It says 27W...
LazerL0rd said:
Apperently its like 30 something Watts. Unbox Therapy found this on the charger.
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Franksr said:
Just got mine today... It says 27W...
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Yeah.. that should be average.
IM0001 said:
That's because it will never fast charge a USB-C Fast Charge device. You need something like this since this device does not have Qualcomm quick charge.
That 60W charger doesn't really support any modern Quick Charge, it just supports the max 2.4A charging for things like Tablets and whatnot.
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Quick charge or no quick charge, I'm pretty sure it's supposed to charge faster than 3% overnight. It still said charging slowly when I got up this morning and said 5 days until full. It had actually only gone up 3% in the past 9 hours.
My battery is at 96% so it may not be the most accurate test, and it was over 1000mah on initial plug in and then slowly went down to what's on the screen shot after about a minute.
I don't yet have a 45 watt charger, so I connected the 25 watt charger from my S20. It says it will take 2 hrs to charge from 15% to Full.
My S20 would charge a lot faster than that. Is this normal?
I guess.
pixel 18W charger is 2h20.
iphone 5w is 5h15
LG 10w near 3h
I might get a faster one, I have the 20W oneplus one, but it wont work on the samsung... dash charging tech not compatible
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I don't yet have a 45 watt charger, so I connected the 25 watt charger from my S20. It says it will take 2 hrs to charge from 15% to Full.
My S20 would charge a lot faster than that. Is this normal?
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Not sure if the S20 charger uses PPS charging protocol that S23U "requires" but 2 hours for 85% sound fine if it's not charging at 25 watts.
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Not sure if the S20 charger uses PPS charging protocol that S23U "requires" but 2 hours for 85% sound fine if it's not charging at 25 watts.
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Thanks. My S20 with that charger would charge 85% a whole lot faster than 2 hrs.
45 watt charger should arrive tomorrow. Hopefully, it will go faster.
DUTCH Van Atlanta said:
Thanks. My S20 with that charger would charge 85% a whole lot faster than 2 hrs.
45 watt charger should arrive tomorrow. Hopefully, it will go faster.
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Yes, but as I mentioned, S23U requires PPS protocol to charge at the "advertised" speed. Just because the charger is 25W, it doesn't mean it will charge at 25W if it's missing the required protocol. Hence why I wrote I'm not sure if S20 supports the same PPS as S23U uses. In order to get 45W charging speed on S23U the charger needs to be PPS and the cable needs to be rated at least at 5 Amps.
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Yes, but as I mentioned, S23U requires PPS protocol to charge at the "advertised" speed. Just because the charger is 25W, it doesn't mean it will charge at 25W if it's missing the required protocol. Hence why I wrote I'm not sure if S20 supports the same PPS as S23U uses. In order to get 45W charging speed on S23U the charger needs to be PPS and the cable needs to be rated at least at 5 Amps.
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That's what should be coming tomorrow from Amazon: Anker 313 charger and 543 cable.
Why Samsung doesn't include these with the S23 is a shame!
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That's what should be coming tomorrow from Amazon: Anker 313 charger and 543 cable.
Why Samsung doesn't include these with the S23 is a shame!
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Well, some OEMs don't include a charger with their Flagships nowadays. Samsung isn't the only one.
That seems a little slow.
Make sure fast charging is on in settings. As you plug your charger in, it should say that it's Super Fast Charging
If it doesn't, try a different cable
If that doesn't work, go for a different charger
My phone keeps saying moisture detected, when there isn't, it's fked up, some chargers work, most dont
when you want to start charging your phone,make sure phone battery temperature is normal.
if you use continuously then charge it,charging speed is lower.
don't depend on status SFC or SFC 2.0.
you need watt meter cable or watt meter to know actually the real time charging speed.
if very hot,from 45 watt down to 15 watt charging (SFC 2.0)
if you want to charge from 10 to 100 in 1 hours use 45 watt charger,you need a cooler room temperature.
or you need a cooler at the back of the phone in 33 degree celcius room temperature.
if you wat to charge wireless 15 watt,it is the same.
battery temperature can make it slower charging.
status fast wireless charging is not the benchmark for charging speed.
SFC 2.0 is the same ,not the benchmark for charging speed.
you need a watt meter cable to know the real charging situation.
My S20 charger initially shows SFC as active when I plug it in but then it drops down to normal charging. Looks like I am not the only one with this issue so guess I will be buying a new brick.
Anyone got a good suggestion on which ones to get? In addition any good 12v car chargers that support it too?
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My S20 charger initially shows SFC as active when I plug it in but then it drops down to normal charging. Looks like I am not the only one with this issue so guess I will be buying a new brick.
Anyone got a good suggestion on which ones to get? In addition any good 12v car chargers that support it too?
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The Anker 313 charger and the Anker 543 cable work for me.
I've had old HTC and Motorola phones from years gone by that took ages to charge. When I got the opportunity and the cash to buy my Samsung, I made sure I got a charger and cable that could super fast charge. From less than 10% to 85% capacity in just a few minutes. Wow.