Why are there no custom ROMs? - Honor 5X Questions & Answers

Hey there,
I was a little astonished when I first got my 5X a few days ago and came here.
There were only some small scripts and a TWRP recovery in the development forums and no custom ROMs.
Why is that?
As I understand the 5X was released a few months ago in the US, so there should already be tons of ROMs available.
Is Huawei blocking the development or something?
I remember when the Nexus phones first released and the first custom ROMs were available like a few hours after the first phone got sold. Same for Samsung Galaxy phones etc.

LordKelsier said:
Hey there,
I was a little astonished when I first got my 5X a few days ago and came here.
There were only some small scripts and a TWRP recovery in the development forums and no custom ROMs.
Why is that?
As I understand the 5X was released a few months ago in the US, so there should already be tons of ROMs available.
Is Huawei blocking the development or something?
I remember when the Nexus phones first released and the first custom ROMs were available like a few hours after the first phone got sold. Same for Samsung Galaxy phones etc.
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Incorrect.... The phone was just released on 1 February in the US and some of these guys have already done some amazing things.
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LordKelsier said:
Hey there,
I was a little astonished when I first got my 5X a few days ago and came here.
There were only some small scripts and a TWRP recovery in the development forums and no custom ROMs.
Why is that?
As I understand the 5X was released a few months ago in the US, so there should already be tons of ROMs available.
Is Huawei blocking the development or something?
I remember when the Nexus phones first released and the first custom ROMs were available like a few hours after the first phone got sold. Same for Samsung Galaxy phones etc.
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k9cop is right, the fact that a non-nexus device has recovery and several solid scripts within 11-12 days of release is pretty incredible.
Huawei isn't blocking anything. They are far more cooperative than many manufactures. They provided an official route for bootloader unlock, and have provided a surprising amount of source (including kernel). They've even asked, "what else do you guys need?"
Nexus is different. Not only is everything that is needed for development available up front, the volume of existing, experienced developers that jump into each new model is very high. I don't think I've ever owned a non-nexus device that had ROMs within the first few hours (unless it was nearly the same model of one that already existed).
From my 7-8 years on XDA, and the 20-25 devices I've used that benefited from these forums, development is happening very quickly.

elessarelfstar said:
k9cop is right, the fact that a non-nexus device has recovery and several solid scripts within 11-12 days of release is pretty incredible.
Huawei isn't blocking anything. They are far more cooperative than many manufactures. They provided an official route for bootloader unlock, and have provided a surprising amount of source (including kernel). They've even asked, "what else do you guys need?"
Nexus is different. Not only is everything that is needed for development available up front, the volume of existing, experienced developers that jump into each new model is very high. I don't think I've ever owned a non-nexus device that had ROMs within the first few hours (unless it was nearly the same model of one that already existed).
From my 7-8 years on XDA, and the 20-25 devices I've used that benefited from these forums, development is happening very quickly.
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Okay then, I guess I am just too spoiled by the Nexus devices then
But you are saying that eventually we'll get custom ROMs for this device?

LordKelsier said:
Okay then, I guess I am just too spoiled by the Nexus devices then
But you are saying that eventually we'll get custom ROMs for this device?
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No one is stopping you from building your own....

Supertacomonkeyexplosion said:
No one is stopping you from building your own....
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I'd do it if Android was based on Windows.
Sadly I have no experience with the Linux filesystem and building kernels.

LordKelsier said:
Hey there,
I was a little astonished when I first got my 5X a few days ago and came here.
There were only some small scripts and a TWRP recovery in the development forums and no custom ROMs.
Why is that?
As I understand the 5X was released a few months ago in the US, so there should already be tons of ROMs available.
Is Huawei blocking the development or something?
I remember when the Nexus phones first released and the first custom ROMs were available like a few hours after the first phone got sold. Same for Samsung Galaxy phones etc.
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The US version was released just a week or two ago and we've already got the kernel source code, TWRP recovery and the ability to unlock the bootloader and root. In my mind, that's amazing. I ordered one of these (received it today) simply because of how fast development seems to be moving. I expect great things from this phone. My initial impression of this phone is that the bar has been moved and it's one of the best $200 phones on the market.

@OP, there's no custom rom at this specific moment because you didn't build one yet. Lol. Give it time. . This phone is amazing as is, i can't wait to see custom roms on it

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[Q] How far have custom firmware come on the SIII so far?

Hello.
So I just ordered a GSIII and it will probably arrive in a day or two.
Until then I decided to try learn everything about this phone (or at least as much as possible)
Here some simple(maybe) questions I have.
How far are they with the custom ROMs? I saw there are quite a lot of them so far but the once I looked on (based on jellybeans) where still having camera problems and a few other minor issues. Are there any stable custom roms where almost everything works?
Another question is. I saw there is a normal android dev sub forum and a new one called "original android dev"
I guess the first one is dev projects based on samsungs official ROM while the other one is for dev project based on AOSP?
What's the pros/cons for each? I guess the AOSP roms don't have the video window playing while doing other stuff and maybe not the galaxy beam thingy?
Also I have been pretty much dead on this forum for half a year.
Tried to do a comback two months ago but my Desire got bricked I think since it completely died during change of hboot.
Anything groundbreaking I have missed in the world of android the past half year (I already know about the most common things like the major things JellyBean brings but not all of the details)
CrimzonEyed said:
Hello.
Here some simple(maybe) questions I have.
How far are they with the custom ROMs? I saw there are quite a lot of them so far but the once I looked on (based on jellybeans) where still having camera problems and a few other minor issues. Are there any stable custom roms where almost everything works?
Majority no problems .
Another question is. I saw there is a normal android dev sub forum and a new one called "original android dev"
That reading the rules
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/introducing-original-development-forums-for-more-devices/
I guess the first one is dev projects based on samsungs official ROM while the other one is for dev project based on AOSP?
NO not often yes .
What's the pros/cons for each? I guess the AOSP roms don't have the video window playing while doing other stuff and maybe not the galaxy beam thingy?
You have to work them out for yourself best rom what rom posts are banned .
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1674286
jje
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[Q] Will the Toshiba AT300 be rooted?

I have a great deal on a Toshiba AT300 at hand, brand new at just above half the retail price, but the internet told me it cannot be rootet yet . It's not a bit problem right now, but at some point it will be. One awesome thing to do with 1 gb RAM and a quadcore CPU is a chrooted Linux installation. Also, i don't want a device thats going to be obsolete because the community can't keep it updated and the company that build it in the first place rather wants to sell me a new one instead of providing upgrades for existing products.
So what are the odds that it will still be locked down in a year or so? What about other devices with locked bootloaders and similar market share, are they eventually broken, or should i just buy a more "mainstream" tablet with more active developers?
(Also, is this the right sub-forum to ask this qurestion?)
Anyone?
fafler said:
Anyone?
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Anyone?
would be nice for someone to take it on in here and forum started for the AT300
finally installing the JB update now
As this device has a limited audience I would not hold out hope. Many things will come into play here. The OEM will only update it has long as they HAVE to. You will not fund many if any custom ROMs for is here as it is not a great developer device due to the issue stated above.
Batcom2
zelendel said:
As this device has a limited audience I would not hold out hope. Many things will come into play here. The OEM will only update it has long as they HAVE to. You will not fund many if any custom ROMs for is here as it is not a great developer device due to the issue stated above.
Batcom2
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Hello,
Any update on rooting the AT300?
Thanks
4 years have passed, any news regarding the root for this device?

Why still no custom roms for one plus x ??

Will it get as much developer support like one plus one ?
I'm sure the OnePlus X will gets it share of Custom ROM in due time. The device hasn't really been in peoples hands that long and developers still need time to get to know the in's & Out's of the device. I give it a couple of weeks or a month before we see anything
you may have noticed the phone was only just released, like a week ago, that's the answer to your question
give it a few weeks, allow people to start developing for the phone, or alternatively make a rom yourself
adity5002 said:
Will it get as much developer support like one plus one ?
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Because no kernel source has been released? Don't worry. It's being worked on. Anyway, you've posted this in the wrong section.
I think, based on the replies above, you should have your answer now.
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Community development strength

You're a power user. Can the honor 5X keep up? Rate this thread to express how "healthy" the development scene is for the honor 5X. A higher rating indicates available root methods, kernels, and custom ROMs.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
Hoping for more love to be given to this KIWI devices
How can there be any development for Android 6.0 without the gorram Sources and Binaries. Honor is still holding out, saying they need to beta-test their proprietary ****e. Somehow I kind of doubt that we'll see official Marshmallow/EMUI4.0 before the friggin' year is up.
jadephyre said:
How can there be any development for Android 6.0 without the gorram Sources and Binaries. Honor is still holding out, saying they need to beta-test their proprietary ****e. Somehow I kind of doubt that we'll see official Marshmallow/EMUI4.0 before the friggin' year is up.
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I am a beta tester and I would guess another month or so. Software is pretty close. So patience, they aren't holding out. They have actually been very forthcoming and helpful to folks here at XDA.
I hope someone with knowledge about kernels would step up and create a custom kernel so that we can overclock and optimize.
Developement is below average. To compare, my HTC HD2 had excellent custom roms available, my Samsung Galaxy Note I had a fair ammount of roms available with most functionality working properly. The Honor 5X currently has no rom with all the basic hardware working (mainly the fingerprint reader). Whatever the reason is, I can say that currently you should not buy this device if you want a custom rom as your daily driver.
Check the custom roms section if you want to see the recent developements. Check out the CyanogenMod roms, since all the others are based upon that AFAIK. If there is still stuff listed as not working (hardware) then wait a little longer or go for another device if you want to have custom roms.
Do not agree with KoeWaffle at all, with exception of fingerprint. Good choice of main custom roms, does not matter if cm based, that can be used as daily drivers... way better than stock!
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nrpetonr said:
Do not agree with KoeWaffle at all, with exception of fingerprint. Good choice of main custom roms, does not matter if cm based, that can be used as daily drivers... way better than stock!
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All current custom roms are CM based. There is pretty much 1 custom rom with many variations available. The device has been out for less than half a year, so it is really not a surprise nor an attack to this community.
This phone offers a slick design and a fingerpint sensor as major selling points. One of it is not working. How does it offer more than a similar phone from another brand then? Despite what others may think of it, I personally really like the fingerprint sensor and do not want to sacrifice it for a more vanilla experience (plenty of other phones offering that from the get go at a lower price). People should just be mindful of it. If they want a different software experience with the samd phone it is just not ready yet...
KoeWaffle said:
All current custom roms are CM based. There is pretty much 1 custom rom with many variations available. The device has been out for less than half a year, so it is really not a surprise nor an attack to this community.
This phone offers a slick design and a fingerpint sensor as major selling points. One of it is not working. How does it offer more than a similar phone from another brand then? Despite what others may think of it, I personally really like the fingerprint sensor and do not want to sacrifice it for a more vanilla experience (plenty of other phones offering that from the get go at a lower price). People should just be mindful of it. If they want a different software experience with the samd phone it is just not ready yet...
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I for one wouldn't say development is "below average". What would you consider average, for starters? The 5X was, as you said, released quite recently, and we already have bootloader unlocking, TWRP, and root access available as additional options here in the forums, not to mention a (small, ok, but still) number of different custom ROMs including CyanogenMod. To me, there's really not many other "important" things beyond this, except for custom tweaks for every model (the Honor has some as well).
Really, the only "big thing" we'd be missing here on regards to modding would be an easy Xposed install - I say easy because many users have already got it, but afaik it's not a simple flashable .zip but system file editing as well. Not a big deal for a truly tech-savvy person like those who roam the XDA forums, though.
I'm not arguing the selling points; it's true, the fingerprint sensor was a major differentiator considering this phone's market range and price, and many phones have followed the (its?) example. But then again, it's just one feature, and it's already been mentioned multiple times that its implementation is close in time.
I wouldn't advise people to get another phone just because of a lack of fingerprint support on custom ROMs or a kind-of difficult Xposed installation. That is, unless they want to get another phone for like, a month, before coming back and buying the 5X - lol!
Of course, not an attack, just my humble opinion.
ElBerretin said:
I for one wouldn't say development is "below average". 1 What would you consider average, for starters? The 5X was, as you said, released quite recently, and we already have bootloader unlocking, TWRP, and root access available as additional options here in the forums, not to mention a (small, ok, but still) number of different custom ROMs including CyanogenMod. To me, there's really not many other "important" things beyond this, except for custom tweaks for every model (the Honor has some as well).
2 I'm not arguing the selling points; it's true, the fingerprint sensor was a major differentiator considering this phone's market range and price, and many phones have followed the (its?) example. But then again, it's just one feature, and it's already been mentioned multiple times that its implementation is close in time.
3 I wouldn't advise people to get another phone just because of a lack of fingerprint support on custom ROMs or a kind-of difficult Xposed installation. That is, unless they want to get another phone for like, a month, before coming back and buying the 5X - lol!
Of course, not an attack, just my humble opinion.
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1 - Maybe a poor choice of words, what I am implying is the availability of complete and sound roms is below my average experience (that being the HTC Leo / HD2, DesireHD and N7000). In due time we might see complete custom roms, but that time is not now and I do not think we can say yet whether it will happen for sure (the developers are not paid to do this).
2 - It has been close for months now, they're waiting on Huawai to release the sources. Some say the sources have already been released but I haven't checked them out myself. For now it is not available and thus I say the available roms are incomplete.
3 - I would, if they want to buy a phone now and have a custom rom as a daily driver (/w all functionality) then it just isn't ready yet. Most people want a custom rom to get rid of the EMUI completely. And no, once you buy that other phone you probably stick with it. So if you want a more vanilla Android experience and don't care about the fingerprint sensor, pick the cheaper phone.
KoeWaffle said:
1 - Maybe a poor choice of words, what I am implying is the availability of complete and sound roms is below my average experience (that being the HTC Leo / HD2, DesireHD and N7000). In due time we might see complete custom roms, but that time is not now and I do not think we can say yet whether it will happen for sure (the developers are not paid to do this).
2 - It has been close for months now, they're waiting on Huawai to release the sources. Some say the sources have already been released but I haven't checked them out myself. For now it is not available and thus I say the available roms are incomplete.
3 - I would, if they want to buy a phone now and have a custom rom as a daily driver (/w all functionality) then it just isn't ready yet. Most people want a custom rom to get rid of the EMUI completely. And no, once you buy that other phone you probably stick with it. So if you want a more vanilla Android experience and don't care about the fingerprint sensor, pick the cheaper phone.
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1-Now that's something I can agree with
2-The sources were released iirc, but as you said developers are not paid for this so it's a game of wait and see
3-I would suggest people give EMUI a try for a while after buying the phone. It's not like I love it, but come on; the specs aren't anything out of this world, I know that, so if you so desperately want a custom ROM that you can't wait for a day- just get another phone, don't even consider the Honor 5X, or any phone that comes with a skin for that matter. Besides, the wait makes it more worthwile imo, how can you know how much better a ROM is than EMUI if you haven't actually run EMUI to begin with? Again, just my opinion...
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not happy with honor..... and dont even know if update comes or not think like jst making fool.......
using honor 5x and 6p from last 4 months have got any update even security patch in honor while in 6p it comes every month...... wer saying that we will get update of android 6.0 in last may but its naw june and no responce.................
disappointed
Matter of opinion, I respect yours and fully agree with huawei ****ty update policy. At least they open bl and share some sources,which are, at least on qualcomm based huaweis, usable to some extent. I have different opinion on development strength, I see no problem with using crpalmers base (cm) for other ROMs as it working well w/o bugs mentioned by u. The last real things that are to be fixed are fingerprint (on the way,fixed by surdu petru ) and HDR mode on camera.
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Lol, where r good old times when LEO development started and bricks and following recoveries of thosr were daily practice
Yes, huawei update policy is...
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i was kinda afraid of development due to the fact that it is an honor device,bt now am happy that it has official cm13 and other cm based roms.
Very premium feeling phone for the price range, good features. Don't care that much for EMUI though, it's a bit iPhone-y and limited.
CM12 and CM13 ROMS are well represented here, and hope to see some Nougat/CM14 love here soon
Good support considering its huawei
A lot of ROMs hère so one for every taste.
If you are flasholic, you can get drunk with your honor5x : )
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im a flashaholic!!
I made more than 10 ROMs. I hope that's good for everybody.

What is the likelihood the V30 ever has a stock Android ROM available?

I have the US998 unlocked version purchased from B&H. At the time of purchase, I envisioned a day when, thanks to the efforts and talent of the dev community, I could load a pure version of the latest Android OS (like the PIxel 2 runs). Unlike other Android devices I've owned, albeit before the bootloader lock down trend started, where rooting and loading a huge variety of ROMs was common, the V30 seems to have relatively little dev following. Maybe that's a misconception and I'm not being patient enough. Does this community of LG V30 owners think dev interest will eventually gain momentum and we may see a stock Android version for our phones?
Never
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Check LineageOS github, the h930/joan-common trees are working, except that vibrator/nfc dont work as intended (and atleast for me, it only boots in 1 out of 15 cases, didnt find other testers willing to try...)
Rest should be fine... would use it as daily driver, but i miss the haptic feedback too much for it (and i dont reboot my phone that often either)
Tried the past week to get the vibrator running atleast... and it has all the necessary files ( i think, atleast it aint complaining), but some switch to turn it on is missing

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