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I am still catching up on android, but as I see it there is not a real smart way of using widgets. those passive ones, ok. but I have about 20 widgets on one side of launcher screens. they show news, clocks, stock market. they update often. But what for? I only visit their launcher pages two times a day for an hour or so.
next to it I have social page. showing all social streams but the same, I go there few times a day.
I was searching for two solutions, but found none.
1) widgets would freeze until their page in launcher is visited.
2) I would have separate platform, where I would place those widgets and access it through shortcuts from launcher.
I would be thinking that having secondary launcher with them which doesn't run without starting manually, would solve it. but no. widgets are registered in system once installed and will just stupidly requesting system attention 24h a day.
So what to do? best would be if widgets would communicate with launcher. second is to implement refresh settings into widgets. (update rate if program was accessed recently, different rate if not)
or at last, make widget separate from main app. so it will run faster, take less ram, get not kicked out of it after every update.
Please take this in consideration when creating apps.
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I think the best option is more options. LIke you said, refresh interval settings, or even an option to update on screen wake/disable background updating.
Don't some widgets already have these options? I only use MT so others would have to chime in on this..
I like the idea of widgets only refreshing when they're visible. If it is even possible, it would be something to suggest to the developers.
My solution would be to put all widgets on manual refresh, and just refresh them when needed. Clocks won't have this option, but generally clock widgets don't use too much battery or resources. Social, news, weather, etc should have manual refresh options. You can use those options and just refresh when needed.
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I like the idea of widgets only refreshing when they're visible. If it is even possible, it would be something to suggest to the developers.
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yes. that's why I posted this to developer's forum.
Shouldn't use rhetorical question as an subject I guess. My msg was trashed before being understood for what it was
This is an issue actually. The system is only as good as it would work for average user. And he might fill he screen with widgets. It doesn't take much. Only couple of non efficient apps and the whole android get laggish. He wouldn't understand what caused it and will just get annoyed and switch over to iPad.
manual refresh - mm, I don't like the idea too much. maybe on some widgets. but for me widget is something to just catch its info and not really use it.
update on screen wake - please no. to use user present and connection change calls is just another way to kill the device's power. Once I press the standby button, or connect to internet, I do it because I want to do something with the device right away. I don't want to wait for ten application actions to race for processor power right in that moment.
yes some have update speed, but that's not the perfect solution for all widgets, is it. Say I want to kill an hour of my life by worthless online socializing, I want those widget to update on one or two minute basis. But once I go away, I don't want them to do so anymore. hour is enough.
as I wrote on start about communication between launcher and widgets.
User would stop over one launcher screen and it will start to call updates on it's widgets one at a time.
And with combination that launcher will report which screen is/recently was active and widgets would consider this info in update schedule. This would be better option for informative widgets and those updating longer.
I have tried this on both my Razr ICS and my gf's Galaxy Note ICS and it works.
On both phones, they are pretty fast until you start to install stuff.
After applying these, the phone is much smoother even with around 200 user apps.
1) Use Autokiller memory optimisation, root needed.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.rs.autokiller&hl=en
This is a common method which android veterans already know, which is to change android's internal autokill values. This is not the same as task killers!
On both phones, I use "aggressive" preset.
For other tweaks like V8 supercharger, it's recommended values are closed to autokiller's "Extreme".
I added more tweaks to the post.
2) Turn on Force GPU rendering under developers mode. Most games and apps seem to work fine with it on.
3) Turn on background process limit to 4: I thought this is interesting (from JerseyFF) so I tried it out, seem good for daily use.
(update: after a while setting for this will revert to standard, there's no way to fix this yet)
4) Use Nova launcher. (root required for Motorola widgets)
The default launcher is smooth but it likes to reload every now and then (even with default autokill values). Tried Apex launcher but it's not as smooth as default launcher. Nova launcher is close to the default launcher which allow more tweaks and and yet it is buttery smooth. Do not update to beta though. I tried it and it's a lagfest.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.teslacoilsw.launcher&hl=en
VM heap size app no longer works after ICS update. If anyone knows how to fix that, please share.
Feel free to add any more tweaks or tips to make RAZR ICS better.
Is this at all somehow related to the Background Process Limit that is able to be set under Developer Options with ICS now?
It has a Standard Limit setting, No background processes, and At most 1 (through 4) processes for options.
Does anyone know what the value for Standard is?
In background process limit, it limits a number of background apps running, while the autokill values limit the number of bg apps running based on the amount of memory left, and killing off lower priority processes first.
The default values for background process limit is therefore "varies".
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Updated first post with more tweaks.
This is my favorite launcher. Smooth... I am using it since I got the RAZR.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nemustech.launcher
Nikorasu said:
I have tried this on both my Razr ICS and my gf's Galaxy Note ICS and it works.
On both phones, they are pretty fast until you start to install stuff.
After applying these, the phone is much smoother even with around 200 user apps.
1) Use Autokiller memory optimisation, root needed.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.rs.autokiller&hl=en
This is a common method which android veterans already know, which is to change android's internal autokill values. This is not the same as task killers!
On both phones, I use "aggressive" preset.
For other tweaks like V8 supercharger, it's recommended values are closed to autokiller's "Extreme".
I added more tweaks to the post.
2) Turn on Force GPU rendering under developers mode. Most games and apps seem to work fine with it on.
3) Turn on background process limit to 4: I thought this is interesting (from JerseyFF) so I tried it out, seem good for daily use.
4) Use Nova launcher. (root required for Motorola widgets)
The default launcher is smooth but it likes to reload every now and then (even with default autokill values). Tried Apex launcher but it's not as smooth as default launcher. Nova launcher is close to the default launcher which allow more tweaks and and yet it is buttery smooth. Do not update to beta though. I tried it and it's a lagfest.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.teslacoilsw.launcher&hl=en
VM heap size app no longer works after ICS update. If anyone knows how to fix that, please share.
Feel free to add any more tweaks or tips to make RAZR ICS better.
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Wow the auto killer is quite the find! Sped up my phone allot. Still running quite hot though
Thanks!
Thanks for the info, I'll confirm that upon bootup after applying the Aggressive setting, I tried scrolling around the Motoblur homescreen and thought it was smoother. But then the Superuser allowance for Autokiller kicked in right in the middle of me scrolling around and I noticed quite a difference in scrolling speed, it just suddenly got faster and smoother and the framerate looked as if it had increased by about 5 FPS. I also did tweaks #2 and 3 as well, but I think Autokiller makes the biggest difference. A good find for sure!
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Wow the auto killer is quite the find! Sped up my phone allot. Still running quite hot though
Thanks!
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Use setcpu and create profiles to set cpu speed lower when screen off and when battery is overheating. There's a free, older ver on xda.
Also you can use juicedefender to make your 3g connection turn off when screen is off. This should also help keep your phone temp down when you're not using it. Note that it will turn itself on every few min to receive whatsapp, mms and emails etc. (not for whatsapp hoes)
Hi, thanks for your tips. I don't know what lag experience you experiment but I hope this works for my RAZR lags. What is happen to my RAZR is that when I enter to apps drawer, non of the icosns appear and instead the "loading circle" takes place until the apps appears. Also when I exit any app and go to home, none of the icons of widget appears, they take half second to reapper.
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Hi, thanks for your tips. I don't know what lag experience you experiment but I hope this works for my RAZR lags. What is happen to my RAZR is that when I enter to apps drawer, non of the icosns appear and instead the "loading circle" takes place until the apps appears. Also when I exit any app and go to home, none of the icons of widget appears, they take half second to reapper.
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Same here!
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e-drian said:
Hi, thanks for your tips. I don't know what lag experience you experiment but I hope this works for my RAZR lags. What is happen to my RAZR is that when I enter to apps drawer, non of the icosns appear and instead the "loading circle" takes place until the apps appears. Also when I exit any app and go to home, none of the icons of widget appears, they take half second to reapper.
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That's called redraw. Try using apex and there is an option for keeping the launcher in memory so it loads faster
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Nikorasu said:
4) Use Nova launcher. (root required for Motorola widgets)
The default launcher is smooth but it likes to reload every now and then (even with default autokill values). Tried Apex launcher but it's not as smooth as default launcher. Nova launcher is close to the default launcher which allow more tweaks and and yet it is buttery smooth. Do not update to beta though. I tried it and it's a lagfest.
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How can you use Motorola widgets in Nova? I can't find this function.
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How can you use Motorola widgets in Nova? I can't find this function.
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Moto widgets only work on moto launcher
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aaatoel said:
How can you use Motorola widgets in Nova? I can't find this function.
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When I first installed Nova launcher, it asks for root access when going into widgets.
Try going to Nova settings ->Drawer-> Check Widgets in drawer (requires root permissions for system app)
Moto widgets like fav. contacts doesn't work well because I can't "pull down"... but it's there, including Motocast widget.
You may want to manually grant Nova launcher root access.
e-drian said:
Hi, thanks for your tips. I don't know what lag experience you experiment but I hope this works for my RAZR lags. What is happen to my RAZR is that when I enter to apps drawer, non of the icosns appear and instead the "loading circle" takes place until the apps appears. Also when I exit any app and go to home, none of the icons of widget appears, they take half second to reapper.
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tudork said:
Same here!
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This is why I'm using Nova launcher instead. There's a free version, do try it. It may still take a while to load the app drawer icons after playing a game, but the 'redraw' for Nova's desktop pages are pretty fast. I also liked how it switched to a tablet version when I'm using Webtop mode.
Do try Apex as well. I didn't like it as it felt laggy when I'm scrolling my desktop pages few months back. It may have improved now and many users are complimenting it. As for myself, I have already bought Nova Prime and I'm sticking to it.
Hi,
I just switched from Apple and bought my first Android Phone. I am loving the overall experience of Andriod and the power of the SIII but sometimes, it gives me a headache.
Often times, the phone becomes quite sluggish and unresponsive for a short time and then gets back to normal. This usually happens at the home screen and the phone takes a while to redraw the screens. The phone becomes very sluggish when moving from one screen to the next.
Sometimes I notice sluggishness in the contacts and in the messages.
I have tried Apex and Nova launchers too and am currently using GO Launcher. It is great and I was loving it all the way but after about 10 days of use, even GO launcher has become sluggish and during this time, I did not make changes to the phone nor added any new apps. It seems like the RAM is full with apps and little resources available to the launcher itself. I feel Andriod can do better with RAM management.
How can I speed up my phone ? Optimize my RAM / CPU resources ? Is there a solution or do I have to live with it ? I can't imagine a phone so powerful behaving this way.
Please Help ! Thanks.
I am using the I9300 with 4.1.2
Hi
The reason for this is sometimes the ram becomes full and to free it up android starts killing up processes, including the Launchers too.
The best solution would be to jack up the RAM, but that's not possible.
One way you can avoid it for 90% (if not 100%) is by using Nova Launcher.
Go to Nova Settings -> Scroll to the bottom -> Advanced -> Check on Aggressive Desktop.
What it'll do is that it'll try to keep the launcher in memory as much as possible reducing the redraws and slugginess.
It doesn't work always, but for most of the part it does.
Root your phone and install a custom kernel such as siyah. Allows you to adjust certain gpu and cpu options as well as deliver far better sound.
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Yes, rooting seems to be an option but that is the different route. I would like to try out the non rooting solutions first. I even installed Start Up Auditor and Watchdog, well theoratically it seems to be working but in the real sense, not most effective.
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Make sure "Power saving" is off
Make sure you havent accidentally activated power saving mode, it makes the phone noticeably sluggish and scrolling skip frames.
Turn off animations in developers settings or set to .05
jje
Ok let's get it started.
Install nova or apex and enable keep in memory from their settings.
Disable ripple effect in lock screen settings.
Go in application settings - all and disable following.
S voice
S suggest
Samsung applications
Video hub
Music hub
Everything Samsung which has a small blue cloud as an icon, there will be 7-8 apps.
If you only use Gmail. And don't use email app, you can disable it and also exchange services.
Disable flipboard
Disable everything Yahoo.
Disable live wallpaper and use a static one.
Have only one weather widget installed at one time. I would say default weather widget is good enough.
You will gain good amount of ram.
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Turn off animations in developers settings or set to .05
jje
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alphauby said:
Yes, rooting seems to be an option but that is the different route. I would like to try out the non rooting solutions first. I even installed Start Up Auditor and Watchdog, well theoratically it seems to be working but in the real sense, not most effective.
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These are good for finding the problematic apps but I would not recommend these to be run in background permanently.
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omeryounos said:
Ok let's get it started.
Install nova or apex and enable keep in memory from their settings.
Disable ripple effect in lock screen settings.
Go in application settings - all and disable following.
S voice
S suggest
Samsung applications
Video hub
Music hub
Everything Samsung which has a small blue cloud as an icon, there will be 7-8 apps.
If you only use Gmail. And don't use email app, you can disable it and also exchange services.
Disable flipboard
Disable everything Yahoo.
Disable live wallpaper and use a static one.
Have only one weather widget installed at one time. I would say default weather widget is good enough.
You will gain good amount of ram.
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If I have to do ALL this .... then what's the point to buying the best in the market ? There is no better method than using all these small tweaks ?
I mean a top notch phone with great hardware and software should be able to do fine just on its own (without the tweaks) ...
Anyway ,,, my animations are already set to .05. I tried Nova, but GO launcher is just much better and faster. There is nothing in the settings or an app, that can reserve more RAM for the desktop and keep the million apps from running in the background ? Even when I kill apps from Watchdog, they pop right up after a few seconds.
I was showing off my phone to a friend who owns Apple, and right there in the middle of my Demo, The curse began and my desktop took 10 seconds to load ... it was pretty embarassing.
alphauby said:
If I have to do ALL this .... then what's the point to buying the best in the market ?
SELL IT
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alphauby said:
If I have to do ALL this .... then what's the point to buying the best in the market ? There is no better method than using all these small tweaks ?
I mean a top notch phone with great hardware and software should be able to do fine just on its own (without the tweaks) ...
Anyway ,,, my animations are already set to .05. I tried Nova, but GO launcher is just much better and faster. There is nothing in the settings or an app, that can reserve more RAM for the desktop and keep the million apps from running in the background ? Even when I kill apps from Watchdog, they pop right up after a few seconds.
I was showing off my phone to a friend who owns Apple, and right there in the middle of my Demo, The curse began and my desktop took 10 seconds to load ... it was pretty embarassing.
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But this is Android my friend vastly different from the generic iPhone where everything works out of the box and everything looks the same but you are highly restricted in what you can do.
With Android you can modify and change to your hearts content, my Galaxy S3 has none of the problems you have, it whizzes along with superb battery life, people have already given good advice to you, usually noobs are told to use the search function
BTW not a chance is Go Launcher better than Nova, the best launcher in the business
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jonny68 said:
But this is Android my friend vastly different from the generic iPhone where everything works out of the box and everything looks the same but you are highly restricted in what you can do.
With Android you can modify and change to your hearts content, my Galaxy S3 has none of the problems you have, it whizzes along with superb battery life, people have already given good advice to you, usually noobs are told to use the search function
BTW not a chance is Go Launcher better than Nova, the best launcher in the business
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And alphauby have a look at this thread....a solution to your problem.....be brave and root ur phone.....sammy are the easiest phones to root....coz of unlocked boot loader....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1663656
alphauby said:
.... GO launcher is just much better and faster. There is nothing in the settings or an app, that can reserve more RAM for the desktop and keep the million apps from running in the background ? Even when I kill apps from Watchdog, they pop right up after a few seconds.
I was showing off my phone to a friend who owns Apple, and right there in the middle of my Demo, The curse began and my desktop took 10 seconds to load ... it was pretty embarassing.
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I see from the above that you came from Apple... you know, you have the Android phone now, most of the stuff unfortunately have something to read or to set up. This is especially important for ANY apk which was not written specifically for I9300, as there are plenty of Android devices on the market.
and, typically for plenty: My IPhone was brilliant, and now I have to suffer, my, oh my!. Let's start from beginnig: you have changed the Launcher on I9300 for something what was not specifically designed for it (it is only COMPATIBLE, I mean: was not optimized). Try to replace it on iPhone, and then claim something, please.
OK, let's try to make your Go Launcher more playable now.
While on main screen, push menu button, then open preferences.
go to advanced, here you will find two important for you options:
1. System persistent and 2. Prevent force close.
Furthermore, unless you will root phone and uninstall/disable TW, it will be always somewhere in running processes.
Finally, please tell how many widgets do you have, Live wallpaper? etc.
Last but not least: you should look on the processes running in background rather than on apps. And feel free to use Go task switcher for that, it is add-on to Go Launcher, and free as well.
just don't use any task killers to clean your RAM, Android handles it pretty well and you're only messing up the system
Usually rooting is the best option as Samsung updates might be pushed before its stable.
If not turn off power saving option. And other small tweaks
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...Disable flipboard...
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Can I ask how you managed to do this (specifically Flipboard). I am running a typical stock International firmware that is rooted and have managed to safely remove a good deal of the junk/bloatware but Flipboard persists in returning upon reboot. Is there something I am missing? Any advise appreciated.
I wanted to install and use the Google Now Launcher in my Moto E... But the fact is, After I set it all up, I have noticed 2 things:
a) It takes up a huge amount of RAM
b) The transition from the app drawer to the Home Screen is really, really choppy (laggy)
My question is : Is this a problem with my device or some problem related to the launcher itself?
(I have also used the Nova, Aviate and Apex Launchers before... But they have all been smooth like the stock Launcher)
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I wanted to install and use the Google Now Launcher in my Moto E... But the fact is, After I set it all up, I have noticed 2 things:
a) It takes up a huge amount of RAM
b) The transition from the app drawer to the Home Screen is really, really choppy (laggy)
My question is : Is this a problem with my device or some problem related to the launcher itself?
(I have also used the Nova, Aviate and Apex Launchers before... But they have all been smooth like the stock Launcher)
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Install Link2SD app and move some apps to the SDCARD to free up space, then install the google launcher now, I did it and ran well, to make this you need rooted.
Google Search version 4.0 doesn't have this issue, as the transition from home screen to app drawer and vice versa is smooth. But the only catch is that, as Google Search version 4.0 is only released with Lollipop, installing it in 4.4 unrooted ROMs would make your OK Google search hotword not working anymore. So have to disable OK Google hotword or it keeps crashing. If you don't mind that, then its a prefect launcher.
More info: http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/1...p-developer-preview-apk-downloadinstructions/
ya those transitions are really laggy..but those will be fixed in lollipop.!
BUT WHERE IS THAT UPDATE MANNN..!!AM FRUSTRATED NOW
I am downloading Google Search v4... along with the L Launcher...
But the catch is, my phone is not rooted...
So I'll try and disable "Ok Google" and find out.
Thanks everyone
I am using google now launcher w/o OK google and average 450 mb free ram.No lags.
Well, I feel the headline is as straight forward as can be, but ill be more specific. I purchased my Lenovo Legion Duel 2. So far I like the phone, but I cant seem to get Nova launcher to stay the default launcher. I manually downloaded the play store on the phone, not sure if I did it properly, I downloaded Nova, made it tho default home but, it doesnt stay. If I swipe up it goes back to zui, if I dont touch my phone for awhile when I go back into it, it reverts back to zui. Does anyone have any ideas on what to do?
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Well, I feel the headline is as straight forward as can be, but ill be more specific. I purchased my Lenovo Legion Duel 2. So far I like the phone, but I cant seem to get Nova launcher to stay the default launcher. I manually downloaded the play store on the phone, not sure if I did it properly, I downloaded Nova, made it tho default home but, it doesnt stay. If I swipe up it goes back to zui, if I dont touch my phone for awhile when I go back into it, it reverts back to zui. Does anyone have any ideas on what to do?
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0) try to install app via adb.
1) try to disable battery optimization for nova launcher (it help me with live wallpapers for example).
2) try to enable auto start for launcher in security app -> auto startup manager (add or enable auto start).
3) try to add all the permission to launcher
reboot at every try
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0) try to install app via adb.
1) try to disable battery optimization for nova launcher (it help me with live wallpapers for example).
2) try to enable auto start for launcher in security app -> auto startup manager (add or enable auto start).
3) try to add all the permission to launcher
reboot at every try
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Thank you. Ill give that a try.
i use Poco Launcher
Under Setting, search "Def" and chang..all is fine
Thing to note.
Cannot work with gestures ...as will crash
Only use navigation button
I installed Nova launcher and it is working fine but some time launcher is hanging. I want to get rid of this ZUI, it makes phone really hot and consume a lot of battery. I am using chinese rom and lenovo legion 2 pro 16gb 512gb
Can any one tell without rooting how to get rid of ZUI Home