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For now this post is primarily a feeler to see if there are any other developers that want to work on dual booting Android and a Linux distribution. My Nexus 10 has shipped but has not yet arrived so I've not done any work on it yet.
The Samsung Chromebook is able to run Ubuntu without issues and it has the same SoC. Hopefully, the Nexus 10 kernel will be similar and can easily use the Linux GPU blobs without a lot of work.
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=samsung_chrome_a15&num=1
The Nexus 10's fast CPU in combination with a keyboard case should result in a relatively good experience when running a traditional Linux distribution with KDE Plasma Active or the like.
I'm sure its possible to run as a chroot, and vnc in, but if I could actually use the accelerated GPU, I'd hook up a mouse and keyboard with OTG, it'd be a high res laptop replacement.
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I am very interested in this. I've got F17 and Gentoo running on my ARM Chromebook (and I have a N10).
What are you thinking for multiboot control, moboot?
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I'm sure its possible to run as a chroot, and vnc in, but if I could actually use the accelerated GPU, I'd hook up a mouse and keyboard with OTG, it'd be a high res laptop replacement.
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Chroot isn't really what I'm wanting either. Hoping to eventually get close to or full hardware support natively.
I am very interested in this. I've got F17 and Gentoo running on my ARM Chromebook (and I have a N10).
What are you thinking for multiboot control, moboot?
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Probably not moboot. LittleKernel was used as a base for moboot which has only really been used on Qualcomm architectures. This, of course, made it perfectly suited for us to use on the HP TouchPad. I'm not sure it would be worth the work required to port it to the Nexus 10.
That said, I don't think a multi booting bootloader is something we need to worry about right now. We can work with simply fastboot to load a different kernel and ramdisk while we work on native Linux. The bootloader can be worked on later after we get a better idea of what we are up against.
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Chroot isn't really what I'm wanting either. Hoping to eventually get close to or full hardware support natively.
Probably not moboot. LittleKernel was used as a base for moboot which has only really been used on Qualcomm architectures. This, of course, made it perfectly suited for us to use on the HP TouchPad. I'm not sure it would be worth the work required to port it to the Nexus 10.
That said, I don't think a multi booting bootloader is something we need to worry about right now. We can work with simply fastboot to load a different kernel and ramdisk while we work on native Linux. The bootloader can be worked on later after we get a better idea of what we are up against.
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I'm no developer. But as a Ubuntu user I would love to see you bring this to us! I'd be happy to test anything related.
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That said, I don't think a multi booting bootloader is something we need to worry about right now. We can work with simply fastboot to load a different kernel and ramdisk while we work on native Linux. The bootloader can be worked on later after we get a better idea of what we are up against.
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Heh, this is the exact conclusion we came to on the Open webOS project for the gnex.
Sounds good to me.
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For now this post is primarily a feeler to see if there are any other developers that want to work on dual booting Android and a Linux distribution. My Nexus 10 has shipped but has not yet arrived so I've not done any work on it yet.
The Samsung Chromebook is able to run Ubuntu without issues and it has the same SoC. Hopefully, the Nexus 10 kernel will be similar and can easily use the Linux GPU blobs without a lot of work.
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=samsung_chrome_a15&num=1
The Nexus 10's fast CPU in combination with a keyboard case should result in a relatively good experience when running a traditional Linux distribution with KDE Plasma Active or the like.
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(1) Thanks for the initative! I'm still enjoying your work with the Nook Color, and I really look forward to a native port of ubuntu on the N10.
(2) I'm not a developer but I would be delighted to help out with testing etc.
(3) I know that development has yet to begin, but do you envison being able to use N10 both (ie. some sort of dualboot?) as an android device and as a light laptop -- latex, light C coding? And if so, would 16g be enough or would it need 32g to be useable (as opposed to just playing around....)? I'm to order the N10 and I have a limited budget; your advice on this is most appreciative.
Thanks!
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...would 16g be enough or would it need 32g
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http://www.indiegogo.com/pengpod
Pengpod1000 has 8GB for dual boot.
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In terms of space, Windows 8 requirements on ARM is the same 4 - 5 GB.
It is interesting that Exynos 5 dual core supports Direct X11 which indicates it was designed to also target Windows.
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(1) Thanks for the initative! I'm still enjoying your work with the Nook Color, and I really look forward to a native port of ubuntu on the N10.
(2) I'm not a developer but I would be delighted to help out with testing etc.
(3) I know that development has yet to begin, but do you envison being able to use N10 both (ie. some sort of dualboot?) as an android device and as a light laptop -- latex, light C coding? And if so, would 16g be enough or would it need 32g to be useable (as opposed to just playing around....)? I'm to order the N10 and I have a limited budget; your advice on this is most appreciative.
Thanks!
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I definitely want to dual boot eventually. 16GB will be enough but will get cramped quickly if you store a few videos and music.
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I would also like to help beta testing. Ive also got an idea of programming but i think i would just slow down the production...
I would support this too.
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is there any way to get this
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Nexus7/Installation
running in dualboot on the nexus 10?
Maybe a bootmenu like on gokhan's siyah kernel on the SIII ?
I just chroot-installed lubuntu 12.04 on my N10, using http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1585009 This is just for curiosity's sake, to see what ubuntu is like on the N10, both in terms of usage/GUI and in terms of performance (knowing full well that performance will take a big hit under chroot/VNC). Here my little report, in case it would be of use as a reference for developing/running linux natively on the N10.
In short: lubuntu is almost usable. Graphics is sluggish (as expected?); as you move xterm across the screen you actually see a series of rectangles and it takes a few seconds for the DE to clean it up. Once you're inside the xterm then the system seems fairly responsive. I was able to apt-get install latex and libreoffice (!) and both work. Curiously scp does not work (ssh does) and I didn't spend much time investigating scp. I can't install dropbox.
I set the resolution of the VNC viewer to be 2560x1500 (leaving room for the android buttons). That was a mistake; menu/window frames/scroll bars etc are TINY. I should have used a smaller resolution and then pinch-zoom. Suggestion for developer: Make everything bigger.
According to top, just running the VNC viewer takes 110-120% of the CPU. That means if we can run linux naively we should expect much better performance.
Finally, I installed "System Profiler & Benchmark". Here's the output of the benchmark for the N10 vs that of an N270 atom netbook with 1G of ram and my Quad Core Q9400 @ 2.66GHz (for all benchmarks below except for cryptohash: a smaller number is better):
CPU Blowfish
Q9400 2003 MHz 3.283
N10 Unknown MHz 24.159
netbook 1600MHz 16.305 <-- not typo
Intel(R) Celeron(R) M processor 1.50GHz (null) 26.1876862
PowerPC 740/750 (280.00MHz) (null) 172.816713
CPU CryptoHash
Q9400 356.041
N10 67.604
netbook 57.059
CPU Fibonacci
Q9400 3.021
N10 5.861
netbook 8.358
Intel(R) Celeron(R) M processor 8.1375674
PowerPC 740/750 58.07682
CPU N-Queens
Q9400 17.614
N10 15.616 <-- not typo
netbook 17.852
FPU FFT
Q9400 1.560
N10 13.498
netbook 17.646
FPU Raytracing
Q9400 19.257
N10 20.286
netbook 33.042
Intel (R) Celeron (R) M processor 40.8816714
PowerPC 740/750 161.312647
I would love to see a Linux distribution running on the Nexus 10.
My preferred one is Mer and the user interface of my choice is Plasma Active (this would later allow a port of Sailfish OS, if a tablet UI gets available).
Is anybody else interested in accomplishing this port?
My previous experience is a proof-of-concept port of MeeGo/Mer to the HTC Desire HD:
So is there any plans on someone trying to get this on the N10?
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So is there any plans on someone trying to get this on the N10?
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Just got my Nexus 10 and I'll definitely look into this - although some help wouldn't be bad.
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I just chroot-installed lubuntu 12.04 on my N10, using http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1585009 This is just for curiosity's sake, to see what ubuntu is like on the N10, both in terms of usage/GUI and in terms of performance (knowing full well that performance will take a big hit under chroot/VNC). Here my little report, in case it would be of use as a reference for developing/running linux natively on the N10.
In short: lubuntu is almost usable. Graphics is sluggish (as expected?); as you move xterm across the screen you actually see a series of rectangles and it takes a few seconds for the DE to clean it up. Once you're inside the xterm then the system seems fairly responsive. I was able to apt-get install latex and libreoffice (!) and both work. Curiously scp does not work (ssh does) and I didn't spend much time investigating scp. I can't install dropbox.
I set the resolution of the VNC viewer to be 2560x1500 (leaving room for the android buttons). That was a mistake; menu/window frames/scroll bars etc are TINY. I should have used a smaller resolution and then pinch-zoom. Suggestion for developer: Make everything bigger.
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I've got a Debian chroot running on mine until we get a proper dual-boot solution using a slightly modified from of this script: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1328742
Running LXDE, its definitely usable for text heavy stuff like office. While the visuals would be a little muddy, I'd recommend running at 1280x752. That's a perfect fit while leaving room for the buttons, and things are large enough that you could realistically use it. If you wanted to run at full res, use 2560x1504.
If you're using a bluetooth mouse with yours, I highly recommend using Jump Desktop as your VNC viewer. Its the only one I know of that supports right clicks. The only drawback is you cant run it at full resolution unless you lower the color depth, it crashes immediately otherwise.
I would love to see this happen!
I'm taking my first programming classes this semester, and I'd love to see Ubuntu come to the N10. That would be pretty dang sweet. :cyclops:
I can't see any framebuffer output (enabled VT and FB in .config) and I really don't know why.. Nothing suspicious in /proc/last_kmsg after reboot (it just hangs at some point, watchdog reboots)
Will take some time to debug this odd behaviour (maybe anybody has some clues what could have gone wrong?)
Does anyone know how well this runs on a sp4 i5? windows 10 in tablet mode is driving me nuts. Remix OS and all the touch optimized android apps it brings would make this into the perfect device for me
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Does anyone know how well this runs on a sp4 i5? windows 10 in tablet mode is driving me nuts. Remix OS and all the touch optimized android apps it brings would make this into the perfect device for me
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Touchscreen not working
Sad, I was going to buy a surface pro 4 this week...
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Has any progress been made to get Touch-screen working on SP4?
i'm also waiting for touchscreen. any progress?
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Sad, I was going to buy a surface pro 4 this week...
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Buy lenovo yoga 700 same specs way lower price..
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The new remix os beta might be able to support touchscreen, not sure though. Lets wait till its out
Same as everyone above,
I'm running a SUrface Pro 4 i7 256gb 8gb Ram device.
I couldn't get this to boot from anything other than a USB drive, got stuck because of the single USB slot so plugged in a USB port extender and plugged mouse and keyboard to that and that all started working fine. Surface keypad and touch screen functions don,t work. Also the resolution is silly small but aside from that everything else seemed fine. Hoping the beta which rolls out today might address some of this but likely not.
My current challenge is to get remix os to boot from the internal hard-drive or the micro-sd i have plugged in at the back to keep the USB port free.
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Same as everyone above,
I'm running a SUrface Pro 4 i7 256gb 8gb Ram device.
I couldn't get this to boot from anything other than a USB drive, got stuck because of the single USB slot so plugged in a USB port extender and plugged mouse and keyboard to that and that all started working fine. Surface keypad and touch screen functions don,t work. Also the resolution is silly small but aside from that everything else seemed fine. Hoping the beta which rolls out today might address some of this but likely not.
My current challenge is to get remix os to boot from the internal hard-drive or the micro-sd i have plugged in at the back to keep the USB port free.
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I am sure it would work out soon...
It makes sense to install it on the internal card...difficult to handle a a tablet with an ugly usb drive protruding from it...unlike a desktop pc....XD
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I am sure it would work out soon...
It makes sense to install it on the internal card...difficult to handle a a tablet with an ugly usb drive protruding from it...unlike a desktop pc....XD
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exactly! I was just happy to get it working first time round.
Runs incredibly awesome and fast on my surface pro 3. Installed on the ssd. I5 128gb 4gb. 230k antutu. If its any consolation. And on my venue 11. I5 4300y, 4gb 128gb, I actually have it installed on the micro SD. A 128gb 80mbs. Don't know why, but the venue can boot it from the micro SD, not the surface, or my onda dualos v919, or my teclast x98 pro. Weird.
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Runs incredibly awesome and fast on my surface pro 3. Installed on the ssd. I5 128gb 4gb. 230k antutu. If its any consolation. And on my venue 11. I5 4300y, 4gb 128gb, I actually have it installed on the micro SD. A 128gb 80mbs. Don't know why, but the venue can boot it from the micro SD, not the surface, or my onda dualos v919, or my teclast x98 pro. Weird.
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That's really interesting. To be fair, microsoft only just managed to fix the bag warmer bug on the SP4 so likely some drivers on it might just be to new age.
In other news Remix OS beta is out with suport for installation on an internal drive. I found a post about how to do this manually but glad they have it baked into their install. No gurantee it will work though. Will update here once im done. http://www.jide.com/en/remixos-for-pc
Hopefully the newest beta will actually work. At work at the moment so can't test it with my SP4 yet. Been running AMIDuOS instead but it doesn't have great performance.
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Runs incredibly awesome and fast on my surface pro 3. Installed on the ssd. I5 128gb 4gb. 230k antutu. If its any consolation. And on my venue 11. I5 4300y, 4gb 128gb, I actually have it installed on the micro SD. A 128gb 80mbs. Don't know why, but the venue can boot it from the micro SD, not the surface, or my onda dualos v919, or my teclast x98 pro. Weird.
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Simple question, how did you install it on your MicroSD card ? I'm having trouble installing it while keeping my second partition, basically I have an Asus T100 with limited SSD storage, so I'm trying to get RemixOS installed on one partition of my MicroSD card for dual boot while keeping my Windows data (files, movies...) on another partition. Any ideas ? I know there's this thing about only the active partition showing up in Windows, so a second partition won't show up in Windows (I have to do it from Linux).
Posting from the SP4 running the beta. Its good keyboard works, managed to boot from the internal partition i setup. No touchscreen support but typecover now works and the touchpad although buggy also works. i would use a usb mouse. Trying to change the resolution now doesnt recognise high res display on surface pro 4. Will post with updates.
I thing RemixOS currently doesn't recognize touchpad buttons, if you don't try to use them (as buttons), it works well, at least for me.
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Simple question, how did you install it on your MicroSD card ? I'm having trouble installing it while keeping my second partition, basically I have an Asus T100 with limited SSD storage, so I'm trying to get RemixOS installed on one partition of my MicroSD card for dual boot while keeping my Windows data (files, movies...) on another partition. Any ideas ? I know there's this thing about only the active partition showing up in Windows, so a second partition won't show up in Windows (I have to do it from Linux).
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well, when I launched the "now old" alpha usb installer, it allows me to select my sd card, on all the tablets actually, but only the venue actually boots from the sd card... Not sure why, if there's anything I can run, or get more information for you on it, let me know. I actually only got 130k on the alpha on my surface pro 3, sorry about the typo. I installed the beta today, and well, ITS EVEN FRICKIN BETTER, lol. Everything works (except the type cover, lol, and thats the only thing working on the sp4, lol). I mean everything works. Even the windows button works and brings up the remix menu. I'm getting 160k on antutu on the beta. Only problem is, when I'm dual booting and I get the 30 second screen to choose an OS, I can't pick one, unless I have my usb wireless dongle in and my little air mouse/keyboard at the ready, then I can choose with that controller. I guess I could change the default to android, but I use windows 10 x64 too. I had to use windows to root android, with the rmx tools. Anyway, the beta is buttery smooth on the sp3. All apps working except maps, just locks up when I launch it. Audio, bluetooth, wireless 2.4 and 5.0, multitouch, windows haptic button, rotation, battery meter, volume and power buttons, front and back cameras and accelerated graphics all working perfectly. Its totally awesome, this is a super fast android/windows dual OS tablet now!!!
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Hey all, just put the beta only maindektop and my venue. The desktop get 193k antutu i7 5820k @ 4ghz 16gb ddr4 256 m.2 m600 ssd. The venue gets 103k on the internal ssd, will bench on SD card later. Now installing on surface 3 (non pro cherry trail z8700), onda v919 air dual os (baytrail-t), and teclast x98 pro (cherry trail z8500). Not sure why my desktop and the venue's scores are so low. I haven't rooted and installed kernel auiditor yet though. Oh, and I'll bench the beta on my dell studio 15 7537 touchscreen lappy later too, i7 4500u, 16gb ddr3 256gb msata ssd 1gb geforce 750mand I'll bench it on my chuwi hi8 (cherry trail z8300). I'm like totally benchmark crazy right now, don't have anything better to do though. I could also put it on my lenovo miix 2 8 and my unbranded 10 inch (best buy brand), but I'm not sure what the point would be. I have 3 nexus 7s, 2 -2013s and 1 2012, I could install the arm version on the 2013s to compare with. I've got that lenovo g460 1st gen i5 560m, geforce 310m, 8gb ddr3 I picked up for $37 (most of what I have, I bought broken, and fixed it). I could go on, but I'm probably boring everybody. I'll let you know the results soon.
as far as why the beta works so well with the surface pro 3 and not with the SP4, I have no idea, it has similar hardware.
The surface pro 3 and the venue are running their full resolutions on the remix beta. Battery life is better than windows 10 x64 on both too.
Ill put it on my surface 3 and I have an old surface pro 1 lying around and let you know the results. I buy a lot of broken stuff and fix it. You should see my stack of phones, mostly s4 and s5, but I've got some others too. Seriously gadget ocd, lol. I'm posting on the venue 7130 vpro right now, not as buttery as the surface, but still snappy. Multi touch works, Bluetooth, WiFi 5.0 and 2.4 work, vibration works, windows button works, sound works, volume and power buttons work, battery meter works, maps works too, unlike the sp3. Rotation is about the only thing not working, but does on the sp3.
I was digging amiduos lollipop for a while, but yea, you just don't get the performance of running it natively. Although my desktop was getting way over 200k on antutu with it, but some things can only be run natively due to virtual machine limitations. I think this beta and the phoenix beta blow any virtual android machine away. I've run some marshmallow ones too, they just don't cut it for me.
Well, I went out and picked up another surface pro keyboard. I got the one that is backlit. The box says surface pro type cover. I didn't think it was any different than the one I already have. But...., this one works with remix, and the other doesn't. Anyway, the keyboard does work, but the trackpad doesn't work at all in remix, both work fine in windows. Also, I have maps working on my sp3. I had to go into settings and click on "let maps use full screen" and now its working. So to recap, everything on the surface pro 3 is working pretty much flawlessly with the remix beta. The front and rear cameras are a little laggy, but that's about it, oh, and the trackpad on the type cover isnt working. but bluetooth, wifi 5.0 and 2.4, rotation, vibration, windows button, surface pro stylus, battery meter, resolution, power and volume buttons, 10 point multi-touch and standby are all working very well. I'm not sure about display brightness as I haven't located where I can adjust it. Anybody know?
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well, when I launched the "now old" alpha usb installer, it allows me to select my sd card, on all the tablets actually, but only the venue actually boots from the sd card... Not sure why, if there's anything I can run, or get more information for you on it, let me know. I actually only got 130k on the alpha on my surface pro 3, sorry about the typo. I installed the beta today, and well, ITS EVEN FRICKIN BETTER, lol. Everything works (except the type cover, lol, and thats the only thing working on the sp4, lol). I mean everything works. Even the windows button works and brings up the remix menu. I'm getting 160k on antutu on the beta. Only problem is, when I'm dual booting and I get the 30 second screen to choose an OS, I can't pick one, unless I have my usb wireless dongle in and my little air mouse/keyboard at the ready, then I can choose with that controller. I guess I could change the default to android, but I use windows 10 x64 too. I had to use windows to root android, with the rmx tools. Anyway, the beta is buttery smooth on the sp3. All apps working except maps, just locks up when I launch it. Audio, bluetooth, wireless 2.4 and 5.0, multitouch, windows haptic button, rotation, battery meter, volume and power buttons, front and back cameras and accelerated graphics all working perfectly. Its totally awesome, this is a super fast android/windows dual OS tablet now!!!
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Thanks for the answer !
After some trials and research, I have found out that there's no way to boot from external sd card from my tablet (BIOS doesn't load it up before Windows boot). I could install RemixOS on my tablet's hard drive, but I won't be able to detach my keyboard which contains the HDD then. I have also tried the method that involves using grub2win, but for the same reasons at boot my grub2win installation isn't detected. I might try with putting it on my integrated SSD, and telling it to then look for RemixOS on my microSD when I have time, but for now it's a nope apparently.
I'll still try live booting the beta though, looks awesome !
I'm tired of scouring the web regarding phoenix os. It's like the elephant-in-the-room.
Like king root almost.
But here's the thing. It plain outperforms remix without question, it boots much faster and is an absolute breeze to install . simply run the . Exe in Windows and it installs to C: drive or partition or USB! One simple click,and you have dual boot uefi/legacy in any Windows!
So why is there no forum or thread for this beautiful software?
Probably because I cannot find any evidence of audio successfully working for PHX Period....
As much as you want to point me to the x86 android forums, this still is its own entity, and I've already been there. This deserves a thread so here goes. Move or delete if you choose Mods
my amd r5 or h2000 aren't giving me audio with phoenix. Together or separate. I also can't get sound with Haswell.
I must know, has anyone acheived audio by any means with Phoenix OS?
Has anyone got anything to share on Phoenix os?
I like phoneix better as well.. I got everything but trackpad to work.... And uea its true its smoother. But i was unable to install google play services without giving me fc.. Theycare also extremely similar. Mowt of thigs that work on remix work on phoneix including root. Also what is broken on remix is highly possible to ve broken on phoneix when it comes to hardware incompatible
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I like phoneix better as well.. I got everything but trackpad to work.... And uea its true its smoother. But i was unable to install google play services without giving me fc.. Theycare also extremely similar. Mowt of thigs that work on remix work on phoneix including root. Also what is broken on remix is highly possible to ve broken on phoneix when it comes to hardware incompatible
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I have everything working except audio on dell optiplex 390 stock - except ssd i installed
What is your hardware? does your audio work? if so how? Hdmi? 3.5mm ???????
Please share with us your config!!!!!!!!
Audio Audio Audio!!!!
Wrll HDMI is not supported by Android x86 do no hope for that..
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I have everything working except audio on dell optiplex 390 stock - except ssd i installed
What is your hardware? does your audio work? if so how? Hdmi? 3.5mm ???????
Please share with us your config!!!!!!!!
Audio Audio Audio!!!!
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Audio worked out of the box for me. I have leno yoga 700 intel m3 with 64bit i havent test hdmi, but im pretty sure thats an androidx86 issue. And what do you mean ssd not working. I had mine running off my internal wich ssd. I now using usb.
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Wrll HDMI is not supported by Android x86 do no hope for that..
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Audio worked out of the box for me. I have leno yoga 700 intel m3 with 64bit i havent test hdmi, but im pretty sure thats an androidx86 issue. And what do you mean ssd not working. I had mine running off my internal wich ssd. I now using usb.
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what i meant was that everything is Stock on the optiplex except ssd (it doesnt cojme with ssd) or at least mine didnt. Thats all
Audio is only think not working, wondering if i can get any audio to work on the optiplex!!!??
Ok thanks for your post.
I just installed phoenix os on haswell msi ms1757 and everything works!!!!!!!!!!!!! Audio, etc etc so, so smooth.. Its perfect on haswell..
Just have to solve audio issue on sandy bridge.... i wonder if i can somehow get audio to speakers from audio out or headphones.. anything will work for this.. Its for a friend.. i might have to go to Phoenix slowwww
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what i meant was that everything is Stock on the optiplex except ssd (it doesnt cojme with ssd) or at least mine didnt. Thats all
Audio is only think not working, wondering if i can get any audio to work on the optiplex!!!??
Ok thanks for your post.
I just installed phoenix os on haswell msi ms1757 and everything works!!!!!!!!!!!!! Audio, etc etc so, so smooth.. Its perfect on haswell..
Just have to solve audio issue on sandy bridge.... i wonder if i can somehow get audio to speakers from audio out or headphones.. anything will work for this.. Its for a friend.. i might have to go to Phoenix slowwww
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Id waittill the first and see if the new beta will work. They said alot more devices will be compatible
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Yeah good idea. Well. I feel dumb. I was able to actually run audio out from 3.5mm jack to samsung 55" after all. My other cord was broken.
Now I've got kodi side by side next to shwbx and playboxhd. Simply amazing.
@egren58 doesn't remix have hdmi out? Is that not android x86 based?
I ran remix on a t420i w/displayport to hdmi and sound worked. A fluke?
Nope. No hdmi, remix us based on android x86 which currently does not support it.
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On the same desktop, I installed both PhoenixOS Beta and Remix OS Alpha with 16GB data storage each.
Ran Antutu benchmark.
PhoenixOS scored 673526
RemixOS scored more than 7xxxxx
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PhoenixOS detected my other 3 hard drives and partitions with full read/write access.
Wifi and bluetooth not detected in both.
RemixOS freezes up after every 5~10 mins (but no freezing issues on my old laptop)
Audio works fine in both
CSR 2 (car racing game) runs fine in both
No hardware/hardware+ decoder for video in both according to MX Player(!)
PhoenixOS is in the beta now...whereas RemixOS is still alpha.
freelancer81 said:
On the same desktop, I installed both PhoenixOS Beta and Remix OS Alpha with 16GB data storage each.
Ran Antutu benchmark.
PhoenixOS scored 673526
RemixOS scored more than 7xxxxx
Additional notes:
PhoenixOS detected my other 3 hard drives and partitions with full read/write access.
Wifi and bluetooth not detected in both.
RemixOS freezes up after every 5~10 mins (but no freezing issues on my old laptop)
Audio works fine in both
CSR 2 (car racing game) runs fine in both
No hardware/hardware+ decoder for video in both according to MX Player(!)
PhoenixOS is in the beta now...whereas RemixOS is still alpha.
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Phoneix os just released v1.0.4 today. Im downloading now but dang their servers SUCK!!!
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Phoneix os just released v1.0.4 today. Im downloading now but dang their servers SUCK!!!
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cool....do update us of any improvements/changes you notice.
Im running Phoenix on a Lenovo ThinkPad T450s and every single feature works beautifully! I spent hours trying to get Remix to boot on my machine by installing it on a new partition as opposed to using a USB drive and it was an absolute nightmare. I had to remove Windows in EFI mode and wipe my drive completely, convert it to MBR and boot in Legacy mode. That was the only way I could get it to work, but I lost a lot of speed in windows because of the conversion from EFI so I ended up restoring back to EFI and got rid of Remix. Then I came across Phoenix and it literally was 2 clicks and it installed everything beautifully in EFI mode! I can even have Rapid Start enabled in windows and it still works just fine. Rooting was insanely easy as well. Overall I think its an amazing piece of software and I don't know why it hasn't shown up here a lot more than what I've seen from Remix. The only issue I have is if I close the lid on may laptop while booted in to Phoenix and leave it shut for more than an hour, when I reopen it up the power light blinks and the computer won't respond to anything so I have to hold the power button and restart the computer. But it literally takes longer to hold the button and restart then it does to power back into Phoenix from being powered off. Overall Im very impressed and can't wait to see further development!
Can anyone tell me how to install Phoenix OS on a Ubuntu desktop? The thing comes in a Windows executable format. I have extracted it and placed the files on my HDD, but how to add a GRUB entry? There is no documentation on the boot parameters.
sbcontt said:
Can anyone tell me how to install Phoenix OS on a Ubuntu desktop? The thing comes in a Windows executable format. I have extracted it and placed the files on my HDD, but how to add a GRUB entry? There is no documentation on the boot parameters.
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Install.img is actually install.cpio.gz so open it (twice) and you'll see the grub files there.
Phoenix Os is much better than Remix Os
Here is a link to where Phoenix OS does most of their english discussion. http://bbs.phoenixstudio.org/en/ and the Chinese forum which has the majority of the topics, http://bbs.phoenixstudio.org/cn/
enjoy!
I don't understand why Phoenix OS only provides a windows installer. I need an ISO for a virtual box install
Hey this is a RemixOS forum please use the Phoenix forum to discuss it.
http://bbs.phoenixstudio.org/en/
They monitor that forum not this one ; I use it, why not all of you? Just sayin'
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Hey this is a RemixOS forum please use the Phoenix forum to discuss it.
http://bbs.phoenixstudio.org/en/
They monitor that forum not this one ; I use it, why not all of you? Just sayin'
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I am one of the original members of that forum and on their tester program. Problem is that they don't keep up too well with us English users. Dante on their thread tries, but we haven't seen near as many betas and such as the cn thread. They play favorites
actually as of 2.0 remix os has hdmi support
I know that there may be many other guides out there that talk about this subject, but what I found is that they don't really work that well with the latest versions of RemixOS, and I had to do a lot of research and tinkering to get mine working.
With that, I felt that it was helpful for me to share my findings and how I got it working, so I made a video for it.
Hope you guys find it useful.
Great video. I'd love to try it but I still can't get Remix to run on my old single core mobile cpu laptop but there is no support for these older cpu's and I've not had any helpful feedback from the Remx team, or any of the forums. It's a shame because the old machine wouid probably run Remix way better than windows, or an old version of Linux.. Dell Inspiron 5150 with Intel Pentium 4 3.06 GHz. It's not a great machine by todays standards but it bugs me that it's just sitting on the shelf.
Hey thanks for the video, although I still can't get it to boot up on its own. I have a gateway netbook which shouldn't be too far off from the Acer. Everything goes smoothly, everything works, till I reboot. The os doesn't load, I just get a black screen with a blinking underscore on the top left. I have tried everything I know, which is not too much. Any help would be great.
Thanks
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Great video. I'd love to try it but I still can't get Remix to run on my old single core mobile cpu laptop but there is no support for these older cpu's and I've not had any helpful feedback from the Remx team, or any of the forums. It's a shame because the old machine wouid probably run Remix way better than windows, or an old version of Linux.. Dell Inspiron 5150 with Intel Pentium 4 3.06 GHz. It's not a great machine by todays standards but it bugs me that it's just sitting on the shelf.
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Try DamnSmallLinux, a great tiny distro for pcs with low performance.
When I click the mirror downloads button I get a "This site can't be reached" error. I can't use the torrent download link where I am.
Vdekjeza said:
When I click the mirror downloads button I get a "This site can't be reached" error. I can't use the torrent download link where I am.
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The reason is because Jide has left the consumer market, and had completely stopped supporting their consumer products.
Now they only work with enterprises.
Try Phoenix OS instead.
Download torrent.
moriel5 said:
The reason is because Jide has left the consumer market, and had completely stopped supporting their consumer products.
Now they only work with enterprises.
Try Phoenix OS instead.
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How does Phoenix compare with Remix? Will it work on a TW700 tablet? I have been trying for over a week to load Remix 3.0 with zero success
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Shehzada said:
How does Phoenix compare with Remix? Will it work on a TW700 tablet? I have been trying for over a week to load Remix 3.0 with zero success
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To say the truth, I had not gotten the chance to check Phoenix OS lately.
However, since you have a BayTrail CPU (those did not get much supportĺ I think that you're better off with the Android-X86 LOS or standard Linux (I highly recommend Solus, and the GNOME 3 UI has great support for touch displays), and even then, you will need to compile some of the drivers yourself (such as the touch driver for the screen, until you do so, you will absolutely have to connect a mouse and keyboard).
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To say the truth, I had not gotten the chance to check Phoenix OS lately.
However, since you have a BayTrail CPU (those did not get much supportĺ I think that you're better off with the Android-X86 LOS or standard Linux (I highly recommend Solus, and the GNOME 3 UI has great support for touch displays), and even then, you will need to compile some of the drivers yourself (such as the touch driver for the screen, until you do so, you will absolutely have to connect a mouse and keyboard).
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Thank you so much. I am checking your recommendations as i type this.
My other problem is the 1GB Ram. Which one of those you think will work best.
I am planning on connecting it via HDMI to my TV and running just 1 android app (hmdi audio/video is all i need). I don't care about touchscreen support.
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Thank you so much. I am checking your recommendations as i type this.
My other problem is the 1GB Ram. Which one of those you think will work best.
I am planning on connecting it via HDMI to my TV and running just 1 android app (hmdi audio/video is all i need). I don't care about touchscreen support.
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With only 1 GB of RAM, I highly recommend using Android-x86's LOS 15.1 (you will still need to compile the touch driver for the screen, and probably other drivers as well, including audio and HDMI.
Thanks...will let u know how it goes.
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You were right. I wasn't able to find LOS 15.1 but did boot 14.1 and though it did reboot on its own twice, it did finally load. It was however very slow.
I tried it on the TW801 which has 2GB Ram and it was more fluid. Touchscreen did work and so did Wifi. Hdmi audio was the bummer.
I have officially given up installing android on the TW700.....I don't think tje tablet is capable of running it well and even if it did.... HDMI audio will be a lost cause.
Thanks for your help....i appreciate it and at least I did finally got to see android on it.
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You were right. I wasn't able to find LOS 15.1 but did boot 14.1 and though it did reboot on its own twice, it did finally load. It was however very slow.
I tried it on the TW801 which has 2GB Ram and it was more fluid. Touchscreen did work and so did Wifi. Hdmi audio was the bummer.
I have officially given up installing android on the TW700.....I don't think tje tablet is capable of running it well and even if it did.... HDMI audio will be a lost cause.
Thanks for your help....i appreciate it and at least I did finally got to see android on it.
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Wait, how about you try running a standard Linux distribution on it?
You may still need to compile the drivers, however there is a higher chance that things will work properly after running updates and rebooting without any compilations.
I tried ubuntu live...slow on the 700 better on the 801. I ordered an Android box..... should receive it today. Lol
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Shehzada said:
I tried ubuntu live...slow on the 700 better on the 801. I ordered an Android box..... should receive it today. Lol
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However did touch work properly?
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However did touch work properly?
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Touch did not work.
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Shehzada said:
Touch did not work.
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And this was Ubuntu 18.04, correct?
I tried 16.04.4 64 bit
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Shehzada said:
I tried 16.04.4 64 bit
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Why such an old version?
18.04 has a much newer kernel (I think 4.14 or 4.15), and as such, has a much higher chance of working properly with your hardware (you may still need to compile drivers, however it's not too hard when people have already prepared the code and instructions for you), plus, it uses GNOME rather than Unity (which is discontinued by Canonical), which is at version 3.28, a release that brought many optimizations to system resources, so it should run more smoothly.
Also, when installed, it'll be be much faster, since the internal NAND is much faster than a USB drive, partly because of the fact that it ustilizes the SATA protocol, rather than the USB protocol, and partly because the chip is just way faster.
I thought that my limitation is the poor processor and the RAM. If I had a celeron it would fly.
These tablets are only good for the operating system they came with from the factory.
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I thought that my limitation is the poor processor and the RAM. If I had a celeron it would fly.
These tablets are only good for the operating system they came with from the factory.
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While an Atom processor is certainly no fun (I have an old Dell Inspiron mini 1018, so I know how it feels), it can be faster than you think.
That old laptop (it was also my first laptop) has a single core Atom CPU, from the N series (the N455), and I was running it with Windows 7.
While it does not have an OS right now (I accidentally broke the keyboard connector on the motherboard while testing RAM sticks for work (I volunteered to do this), and salvaged the hard drive for my desktop (I have 12 hard drives, and 10 trays, 2 of which are are for 2.5" drives. The hard drives were all, save for one, which was bought second hand together with the computer (the case was bought seperately), salvaged from old PCs that people had thrown away), it runs alright on Ubuntu (and slightly better on Solus), however you have a quad-core Atom, which also generates less heat (so less throttling), so it will run much better.
I am not saying that the OS will fly, after all, it does not have a core i3 CPU, however it will outperform your expectation.
Thanks. Today I can't wait to get home to the Android box being delivered.
When I get some time....i will try to load 18.04 and report back. Thanks again.
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