Hi all,
Was impressed by brainwavs delta iem.they say that it requires 3.5mm jack in TRRS band. Is z ultra compatible? Please provide your inputs.
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TRRS means tip ring ring sleve and it refers to how the 3.5mm plug is configured.
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Almost all modern phones with a 3.5mm port support this configuration. No need to worry about this.
The only major difference is how this technique is being used. Apple has their system and Android has their version.
When you buy a headset choose or tell the seller what device you will be using and the headset will work fine.
For a visual guide. Apple compatible headsets has three buttons on the headsets cable when Android compatible headsets has only one button on the cable.
This image below represents the Apple version of this product. You can see three buttons: Plus, Play/paus and Minus.
http://www.brainwavzaudio.com/collections/delta/products/delta-silver-with-mic-remote
Some samsung phones can take headsets with + and - buttons.
Problem is there's no definitive standard for this.
speculatrix said:
Some samsung phones can take headsets with + and - buttons.
Problem is there's no definitive standard for this.
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But there is. And Apple will charge phone makers an arm and a leg to use it.
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Some samsung phones can take headsets with + and - buttons.
Problem is there's no definitive standard for this.
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Many manufactures has designed models in a range of years when they used the ctia standard. Also Sony used it in some of their early Sony devices.
Each designing their own solution they followed no standard. And many now only uses the regular omtp.
I found an old cached website describing the details
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:jCfoZjj6TqsJinoutsguide.com/HeadsetsHeadphones/samsung_moment_pinout.shtml+&cd=1&hl=sv&ct=clnk&gl=se
The old HTC hero used a 600ohm resistor, a 220 ohm resistor. This was a time when inovation happened every day.
Further down it describes:
"To detect and use an external input, the Samsung Galaxy S needs to see about 1600 ohms impedance between the microphone and ground pins. This will automatically disable the internal mic in the phone. To connect the output from a PC or other audio device into the phones mic input, you'll need to add a 1.6k ohm resistor in series. This is the same procedure that works with an iPhone."
As we know there has been tons of lawsuites and patent disputes with Apple. Finding the right document is not what I have the time for.
I can not confirm if Apple is the patent holder of ctia. Or if it is free to use. Because many devices does use ctia standard today. Perhaps under license you can use the technology?
Or there is a legacy ctia standard that Samsung uses that can handle multiple buttons but does not upset Apple for looking to similar to their solution?
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I was wondering if anyone here knew if it could be possible to upgrade the 2.5 mm headset jack to a 3.5 mm headset jack without the use of an adapter. I'm not worried about the microphone, just the stereo headphones.
What I am trying to find out is has anyone ever modified their WIZARD to have a 3.5mm headphone jack INSTEAD of a 2.5mm headset jack?
Could it even be possible?
Just a guess, but I don't think it will be possible since the 3.5mm jack is going to require greater depth and the opening is liable to not be large enough. I'd just get a 2.5mm-3.5mm adapter and be done with it personally.
I hadn't thought of that... I suppose you're right though. Better to be safe and not risk damaging my wizard too...
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Aint gonna work on a wizard (only on newer htc phones) u'll need a 2,5 to 3,5 jackplug adaptor:
or you could spring for some 2.5mm headphones. some of the ones i saw on ebay get really good sound quality
The jack is soldered onto the main board. Since these things all work with SM technology, if you don't know surface mount soldering techniques, you'll fry the phone. An adaptor is cheaper and safer....
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The jack is soldered onto the main board. Since these things all work with SM technology, if you don't know surface mount soldering techniques, you'll fry the phone. An adaptor is cheaper and safer....
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I do have adequate soldering skills and that's actually more of what I was looking to do. Do you know of anything like that or if it is even possible?
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I do have adequate soldering skills and that's actually more of what I was looking to do. Do you know of anything like that or if it is even possible?
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doing it yourself sounds like maaaaaaad fun but i dont think i'd risk my fone
The 3.5mm adapters are too easy to use - but if you have your heart set on not using one, I would see it as easier making the conversion to the headphones than in the restricted space and with the high cost of failure in the phone.
I think both my converters cost a couple of quid, but the first was a solid one which i got rid of as its too impractical having such a long projection from your phone, or at least I found this when it was in my Krusell case on my belt.
It was also a pain on flights with the rigid adaptor, as I was using noise cancelling headphones, and a 4xAA battery extender, so my shirt pocket was getting too cluttered, but the adaptor with the cable again made it work.
Why would you want to solder on the wizard.
Just get a decent quality 2.5mm stereo jack, some good ordinary headset en combine the two.
It's a lot easier (and cheaper if you mess up) to solder 4 wires together than to solder some miniature audio jack in a cramped area.
uhhh radio shack? that is where i got my two. one for headphones. (before i got my bt's) and one for car. cassette adapter to phone. old skool ghetto.
5$ for two i think. or i have seen javoedge have some also.
****e. i thought you were talking about external.
My experience with the audio jack is as follows... it is kind of proprietary. I once took a picture of the jack that comes with the phone and an off the shelf 2.5mm jack. I'm not sure if I would replace the jack even it were possible, but the quirkiness of the jack created some issues for me until I discovered it was indeed non standard.
My pic and posts re: this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1033525#post1033525
Can anyone point me to the best Stereo Bluetooth with Caller ID display. I only really want stereo bluetooth to avoid wires and if you can't recommend one with wires, can you help me to determine just the best stereo bluetooth for TP2.
Also, I don't want them to be the headphone or the one ear bluetooth pieces, I need it to be ear buds.
Thanks.
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Can anyone point me to the best Stereo Bluetooth with Caller ID display. I only really want stereo bluetooth to avoid wires and if you can't recommend one with wires, can you help me to determine just the best stereo bluetooth for TP2.
Also, I don't want them to be the headphone or the one ear bluetooth pieces, I need it to be ear buds.
Thanks.
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Have you looked for Bluetooth™-stereoheadset HBH-DS980?
I'm very happy with this, I have 2 more bluetooth headset but DS980 is the best for me.
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and if you want plug 3,5 mm to bluetooth headset try HBH-DS220 but it doesn't have caller ID.
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Can anyone point me to the best Stereo Bluetooth with Caller ID display. I only really want stereo bluetooth to avoid wires and if you can't recommend one with wires, can you help me to determine just the best stereo bluetooth for TP2.
Also, I don't want them to be the headphone or the one ear bluetooth pieces, I need it to be ear buds.
Thanks.
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I have a Motorola SoundPilot S705. I'm totaly satisfied with this headset.
The features are still not reached by any other currently available bluetooth stereo headset.
Unfortunately it is out of production, maybe you can still buy it in ebay or elsewhere.
It has for example multipoint feature (up to 8 connection profiles), FM radio with RDS, caller id display, 3.5 mm audio connector, Mini USB charger, ...
Regards, UMH
I have a DS-980 which is pretty old and the wires are getting frayed. Got a DS220 as a replacement but I don't recommend it. It doesn't have a dedicated volume control nor a dedicated next/ prev switch for multimedia like the DS-980 (apart from the lack of of a caller ID) and the auto volume control on it sucks.
Isn't there any other in the market with dedicated multimedia controls+caller id+3.5mm?
Clip D-Radio
It also does FM radio. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002CVTPBA
Also available from www.accessoryjack.com. I have ordered two from them. They currently are offering them for $79.00.
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It also does FM radio. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002CVTPBA
Also available from www.accessoryjack.com. I have ordered two from them. They currently are offering them for $79.00.
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Shame can't find in the UK, also saw a sight where someone complained about its build faltering after 2 months.
cp1md2b said:
It also does FM radio. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002CVTPBA
Also available from www.accessoryjack.com. I have ordered two from them. They currently are offering them for $79.00.
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lots of people here working for a site, trying to market it....YAA they look good but the price is too high, and also why not get the WM600? does the caller ID work?
G'day,
Just bought a set of sony earphones for 70 or 80 bucks with an inline mic with volume control. They're branded as being "Made for iPhone", though I figured that wouldn't be an issue. Turns out it may be, because if i plug them in to my X10 any sound that comes out of them in impossibly distorted. If I hold down the play/pause button, the sound is fine.
If anyone has had similar issues and/or has found a solution for this I would very much like to here from you.
Cheers
That's because the wires for the tip and last ring of the jack are switched for iPhone. I don't know if there's an adaptor available, but you can make your own or just cut / resplice the cable.
what do you mean with "resplice"?
Can't find any definition
I mean cut the cable and then solder them in the correct order
Or, if you don't need the mic, you can ranger-rig it by tying a bind knot around the button like I did.
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Or, if you don't need the mic, you can ranger-rig it by tying a bind knot around the button like I did.
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I'm not so competent at soldering but I have wrapped sticky tape around it which works. Cheers for your help guys.
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Just want to share my solution
Just use 3.5mm to 6.35mm and 6.35mm to 3.5mm together only can get stereo volume no mic and button. I have ipod touch 4 and SE x10. I use my x10 stock earphone on my ipod touch 4 it work.
That must be ridiculously bulky and fragile.
Bulky is ok but fragile I disagree. Quite useful solution just simply unplug from the 'combination' that plug to ipod and plug to my x10 then I can make call without swap another pair of earphone.
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Its got to stick way out which would make it easy to break, and really hard on the phone.
Check this out: http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B000YBY2U4/ref=redir_mdp_mobile/187-9923423-2387257?ref_=pd_rhf_shvl_2
The best solution mic and control function retain
https://www.meelec.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=ADPTR-TRRS-35
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MEElectronics now carries a 3.5mm to 3.5mm TRRS adapter that reverses the microphone and ground pins, enabling our P version headsets to work with many Nokia, Sony Ericsson, and Samsung phones they previously did not work with, This adapter will allow you to retain the mic/remote function of the P version of our products, however specific remote and mic compatibility is dependent on the actual phone.
You can use coupon code TRRS_ADAPTER for a discount with the purchase of a MEE P version headphone
3.5mm TRRS 4 conductor Male Plug
3.5mm TRRS 4 conductor Female Jack
Adapter Pinout: T-T, R1-R1, R2-S, S-R2
Compatible models (in progress):
Model Version
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Sony Ericsson
A8i
Aspen
Cedar
Spiro
Vivaz Pro, Vivaz U5A
W995
Xperia Arc, Xperia X1, Xperia X2, Xperia X8, Xperia X10, Xperia X10 Mini, Xperia X10 Mini Pro
Yendo
kxhawkins said:
That's because the wires for the tip and last ring of the jack are switched for iPhone. I don't know if there's an adaptor available, but you can make your own or just cut / resplice the cable.
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You can find this (nokia headset adapter) at T-Mobile corp store.
Actually, nokia stereo headset works.
So, I got the Ringke Slim hoping it would fit with the ProClip . . . which it didn't.
It would slide in ok, but the alignment to the charging port was off by nearly an 8th inch.
I had to take the dremmel to the mount to get it to work, but it works. Surprisingly, the phone still fits pretty snuggly even without the case
I got the hard-wired mount, so I also dremmeled a small gap in the console for the power cable and an audio cable.
Waze looks great on this thing!!
Let me know if the pictures show up or not . . . experimenting with using facebook to image host
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How did u install this?
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How did u install this?
Sent from the Almighty Note!
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When you order the ProClip you get the dock and mount together with a mount specific to your car.
They have a standalone dock, a lighter charger dock, and a hardire dock. I got the hard wired. Pulled the console out and soldered the positive lead into the existing cigarette lighter power supply with an inline 2a fuse and grounded to the existing ground.
I already had an ipod interface installed to work with the factory head unit, and that interface also has auxiliary input. Just ran the rca through the same hole for the power cable and plugged it in to the ipod interface unit behind the dash.
I always bought ProClip USa mounts for my devices. They are vibration free, and very quality products.
However I'm surprised they don't have the adjustable dock for the note (like they did for my iPhone 4). It would allow for different case widths...I guess they don't do it for all devices.
Is that a tape player in your car?
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Is that a tape player in your car?
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LOL . . . no. There was an option tape deck that fit under the cd deck so it's got the button on there for input selection. I have the "cash box" under the head unit and in the cash box is an old iPhone 3g hooked up to a PA11-HON which charges and controls the playlists through the factory deck.
RipplingHurst said:
I always bought ProClip USa mounts for my devices. They are vibration free, and very quality products.
However I'm surprised they don't have the adjustable dock for the note (like they did for my iPhone 4). It would allow for different case widths...I guess they don't do it for all devices.
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It was either this one or the "universal mount" . . . I didn't want to play with the universal thing so I got this knowing I'd either need to mod it or go case free. It's still snug as a bug even without the case, but I think I may have voided my warranty and affected my resale value
Hey guys,
i've got a Xtrons PX5 Android 8.0 Unit (xtrons pb78aa3rp) and I don't have any subwoofer output in the harness.
Are there any mods to add this?
And does anybody know if this really has a DSP built in or should I give thsi addon board a try?
https://de.aliexpress.com/item/4000095694713.html?spm=a2g0x.12057483.0.0.1c5673a1t6a4hM
Is this a development question or a q&a forum question.
If you want to find out if the unit has a dsp, what options have been tried from the number of detailed posts outlining how to do so.
If your HU has DSP it should also have a 15 band equalizer and adjustments for distance to speakers or delay.
The unit you listed does not have DSP but it has a subwoofer line out. There is no sub output from the built-in amplifier.
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If your HU has DSP it should also have a 15 band equalizer and adjustments for distance to speakers or delay.
The unit you listed does not have DSP but it has a subwoofer line out. There is no sub output from the built-in amplifier.
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Ok so it´s like I thought about the DSP.
But the problem with the subwoofer: although the spec says it, i had no line out for the subwoofer on the harness. only rca outputs for the 4 speakers or integrated in the OEM Quadlock.
So did I get the wrong wireing harness or is it not available on px5 units? without DSP?
Their listing shows connector 22 as part of the wires they supply with the HU and since that unit is not supposed to have a DSP then they should still have supplied the connector. If they won't send you one you could always open it and add a cable.
I got a reply from Xtrons:
Hi, pb78aa3rp has not an external subwoofer cable, it is built-in, you don't need a seprated subwoofer cable to get thr subwoofer work
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hi, the harness is correct, the factory doesn't supply a harness with external subwoofer cable
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So we all know this answer is not really satisfying. I think the sub out is still there on the board.
So if anyone has a PX5 with subout could ou tell me on which Pin of the connected is the sub out connected?