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Okay so let me say first that google music beta has made my music life a million times easier, it saves me space on my mem card an things like that. So, my question is, if I turn the "temporarily cache music" choice off in the settings, how much data does google music still use? Because I recently changed my plan to 200mb limited data usage, an I wanted to know whether or not turning off the cache still made the phone use data to stream, thanks so much in advance XDA
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Hi there,
Here is a data usage calculator tool:
"t-mobile.com/Tools/MBCalculator.aspx"
If you stream 30 minutes of music every day in a 30 day billing cycle your total usage would be roughly 900MB. There are 1024MB in every 1GB to put it in perspective. Streaming video and music is not recommended for plans under 2GB. On limited plans, it is a good idea to connect to wifi as much as possible.
Hope that helps!
I really only stream music at home (using wifi) and I have my favorite music on my memory card (for on the go). I can't thank you enough for replying to my post! And yes it helps greatly! I cut the data plan down because I needed a load off on the bill (most economic thing to do), so thank you once again
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Glad it helped,
I realize I did not address your question about the caching feature:
Weather or not you enable caching, data is still being used to stream your music from the google server. However, by turning caching on (which is turned on by default on the android app) your phone stores memory of recently played music files. This means that without connecting to a data network you can still play some music.
Better yet, you can choose specific songs to be cached to your phone by opening the google music application and long pressing on a song. From there an option should pop up that says "Available offline" and you can check the box. Just make sure to cache the songs you want while your on wifi because the act of caching does use data.
Once cached you can play those specific songs back anytime w/out using any data!
blastindamusic said:
Glad it helped,
I realize I did not address your question about the caching feature:
Weather or not you enable caching, data is still being used to stream your music from the google server. However, by turning caching on (which is turned on by default on the android app) your phone stores memory of recently played music files. This means that without connecting to a data network you can still play some music.
Better yet, you can choose specific songs to be cached to your phone by opening the google music application and long pressing on a song. From there an option should pop up that says "Available offline" and you can check the box. Just make sure to cache the songs you want while your on wifi because the act of caching does use data.
Once cached you can play those specific songs back anytime w/out using any data!
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Hi I recently downloaded Google music and I transferred my songs to my device, and I made those songs available offline, so if I set my Google music app to offline will I still he charged for using data if I'm only playing the songs I set for offline use?
just turn the setting on that says "Stream over Wi-Fi only" to be on the safe side
Phone freezes, reboots, or does "nothing" at all when moving app/s to SD Card
Ah, the age old problem with moving apps.
I recently found my way back to a PA, AOKP, CM ROM (Jellybam).
Unfortunately, I have some nerve damage in my hand. Since the invention of the 4.2 JB keyboard, I've been able to use my Note more frequently, and thoroughly. There are various reasons why I need to use this ROM in particular, one of them being that customizability is a necessity, and Roms like Avatar, Chameleon, and PACMan just aren't there yet, either in performance, or stability. I spent the whole day looking for an alternative, but none came closer to meeting my needs, while still being callable of daily driving.
My issue is, I have a large collection of apps, and I'm leaving for vacation. Many of them hold an extremely large cache of offline data, while others are games that have 100+APK files, and 1-2GB of OBB or other SD Data. I still have a ton of apps I need to install, and the inherent 2gb limit of Android is seriously going to make my life tough. My family is counting on me for maps, itinerary, and even entertainment.
These apps could easily be installed if I could simply move a dozen or so of the largest apps, and a dozen or so of the medium sized apps to the SD card.
However, upon clicking the "Move to SD Card" button in the app info panel, one of a few things happens. The button might Greg out, and say "moving" for hours, and never get there, the phone could freeze, requiring a reboot as soon as I try to back out, hit the home button, or do anything except scroll; or the phone might freeze and reboot, or just reboot immediately upon clicking the move button.
Occasionally, I'll be successful. I've tried clearing a the data from a few system apps, like "Media Storage", and I'm not sure if it worked or not, but over a period of around ten restarts, I managed to get three apps transferred to the "SD Card", although they definitely were not the apps I needed to move. The ones I managed to move were ones I chose at random while I flashed several kernels, root .zips, recoveries, mods, etcetera. They were all less than 25mb.
I'd owe you forever, and would be willing to assist you on a project, or finding a fix for some of your own technological ailments, if you can help me with this.
A search of XDA, and Google's hive-mind brings up a couple thread where the issue is discussed, but those were from years ago, and only one was on the same ROM as I am, and that thread was deleted--all that remains was a description and the details of it in the search index.
So, a penny for your thoughts? Even if you don't have anything concrete, the discussion, suggestions, and conversations might help.
Mad thanks all around.
Jamesyboy said:
Ah, the age old problem with moving apps.
I recently found my way back to a PA, AOKP, CM ROM (Jellybam).
Unfortunately, I have some nerve damage in my hand. Since the invention of the 4.2 JB keyboard, I've been able to use my Note more frequently, and thoroughly. There are various reasons why I need to use this ROM in particular, one of them being that customizability is a necessity, and Roms like Avatar, Chameleon, and PACMan just aren't there yet, either in performance, or stability. I spent the whole day looking for an alternative, but none came closer to meeting my needs, while still being callable of daily driving.
My issue is, I have a large collection of apps, and I'm leaving for vacation. Many of them hold an extremely large cache of offline data, while others are games that have 100+APK files, and 1-2GB of OBB or other SD Data. I still have a ton of apps I need to install, and the inherent 2gb limit of Android is seriously going to make my life tough. My family is counting on me for maps, itinerary, and even entertainment.
These apps could easily be installed if I could simply move a dozen or so of the largest apps, and a dozen or so of the medium sized apps to the SD card.
However, upon clicking the "Move to SD Card" button in the app info panel, one of a few things happens. The button might Greg out, and say "moving" for hours, and never get there, the phone could freeze, requiring a reboot as soon as I try to back out, hit the home button, or do anything except scroll; or the phone might freeze and reboot, or just reboot immediately upon clicking the move button.
Occasionally, I'll be successful. I've tried clearing a the data from a few system apps, like "Media Storage", and I'm not sure if it worked or not, but over a period of around ten restarts, I managed to get three apps transferred to the "SD Card", although they definitely were not the apps I needed to move. The ones I managed to move were ones I chose at random while I flashed several kernels, root .zips, recoveries, mods, etcetera. They were all less than 25mb.
I'd owe you forever, and would be willing to assist you on a project, or finding a fix for some of your own technological ailments, if you can help me with this.
A search of XDA, and Google's hive-mind brings up a couple thread where the issue is discussed, but those were from years ago, and only one was on the same ROM as I am, and that thread was deleted--all that remains was a description and the details of it in the search index.
So, a penny for your thoughts? Even if you don't have anything concrete, the discussion, suggestions, and conversations might help.
Mad thanks all around.
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So, after some more screwing around, I found that indeed, clearing the data for the "Media Storage" app temporarily fixes the problem for all but 2 minutes. I'm woefully unprepared to understand the app-- particularly whether it's a contaner of sorts for media thumbnails, tags, etc...or...whateer....the...other....option.....is.....
I suppose i'll try pulling a TiBu Pkg of a "Media Storae" app from another ROM, import it into this one, and fire it up.
Before i cleared it, the app had 27mb of data and cache, and aftered i cleared it, it slimmed down to 7. Within a minute or two, it was back up to 27mb, and my phone was freezing on the transfer of apps to my sd card again.
Possibly your phone is just too low on memory and you don't have enough memory to do the move to sd card. Try temporarily removing some apps and then move your big ones and all that you can and then install the apps back.
Or you could backup a few apps with TB that you don't use much which will free up some memory. Then when you need the app use TB to restore it quickly.
Cache can be a killer. Just removed a little over 200MB of cache files myself this morning. Try a good cache cleaner like "Clean Master."
If your phone is loaded with media files then your media data will be that high. Sounds like to me your phone is simply overloaded.
First of all, I know this have been asked numerous times but I only got more confused of the threads that were aboout this...
My S2 has been showing the message "Insufficient storage available" for the past 8 or 9 months, but it has gotten worse since. At first I couldn't download any big apps, now I can't even download apps that are small (like 5mb). Anyway, I don't exactly know how it started but it probably has something to do with Android 4.x.x ... It has gotten really annoying because I needed to do some necessary updates on certain apps (WhatsApp for example) and I can't use them anymore because of this problem.
It's probably something with System Data. (yes I know I still have about 600mb of apps, but those are either apps I really need or apps that are on my phone as a default.) But as far as I know, I can't reach that System Data... It's just a chunk of (useless??) data that's just there. I don't really what it consists of, because the app (DiskUsage) I used to look into me storage won't let me open that map (as can be seen).
I WANTED TO SHOW A PICTURE HERE BUT I CAN'T SINCE I'M A NEW MEMBER BASICALLY, THE SITUATION IS LIKE THIS:
DATA [2015 MB]
- APPLICATIONS [574 MB]
- SYSTEM DATA [1397 MB]
- FREE SPACE [what's left. this ranges between ~90mb and ~10mb since I clear cache now and then]
I've been to a store with this problem and they basically said that there is nothing I can do... Is there really nothing I can do? I tried wiping my cache but that didn't do enough. I usually clear 90mb of cache when I do this once in every 3 days (after those 3 days I have about 5mb of space left), but like I said, this doesn't do enough.
Any suggestions? Sorry again as I know there are some threads already about this, but I looked into them and didn't really got a lot out of them...
Thanks in advance.
Did you try *#9900# on phone call menu?
From what I think, it's because of your application files. For example if you always use whatsapp(what I mean here is, if you keep on chatting), it'll store your chat messages into your phone memory which will 'eat' your memory bit by bit. And also, this is from what I've experienced, whenever you uninstalled an application, let's say TubeMate, you'll see tubemate's folder(s) is/are still inside your phone.
So what I'm trying to suggest here is, whenever you want to clear some space, try to delete some of your whatsapp chats or maybe other chat apps that stores chat messages if you don't want to uninstall other app. And when you want to uninstall an application, make sure you delete the app's folders inside your phone.
I'm don't know much about phone memory, so if I'm wrong about it, correct me
p/s: If you can't post link your image since you're new here, you can put your images as attachment.
Artwing said:
Did you try *#9900# on phone call menu?
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Why haven't I thought of that 2 months ago... I thought that option was only for clearing my storage of calls and texts and since I don't call or text a whole lot, I thought it wouldn't be beneficial.
I've cleared over 1,2 GB by this. Thanks for your help, really appreciate it!
So, i started getting memory full notifications on my S9+, so went in thinking I'd just have to move some pictures or other media, as it randomly decides it wants to save camera images to internal storage instead of the sd card. Even after moving and deleting apps i wasn't using, i keep getting this message of storage space running low.
Long story short, i finally went in and told it to show me hidden files, and i find this app called VisionProvider. I have 64gb internal storage, and this thing is using 36+gb! What the crap is it, do i need this, and how can i get rid of it or at least reduce its size?
I'd factory reset mine only take up 10.05 mb that seems like something went wrong or its showing wrong
Could try clearing the data and cache for the app to see if that helps.
As for what the app is it was rather easy to determine, and why it is probly best to not mess with removing it.
Looking in my apps list I found the vision provider which is a system app (so not something you can disable via the phone). Upon looking I saw mine is using 1.80MB of storage, but I imagine this is because I do not use Bixby for anything other then voice dictation for texts.
Looking at the "App details in store" I saw it was downloaded from Galaxy Store. Did a quick search on Galaxy store and saw plain as day what it was... A provider app for Bixby Vision, so given it's integrated with Bixby I would just clear the cache/data for the app rather then try to mess with it. IMHO safer to do this rather then attempt to remove it, break something and have more problems.
Vision provider
So, i went into mmt apps, and, through the hamburger menu, told it to show system apps. I had looked at it here before, but the buttons to clean cache and data were greyed out and i couldn't select them. This time, however, i wad ankle to select them both, and, voila, all is well in the Samsung android world. Thanks.
If this isn't the right place - please move the message. I figured it's a more general topic.
To summarize: games which I previously installed "unofficially", liked, decided to buy and support the devs - don't install from the Play Store.
There are two games which I downloaded from third-party sites to try out, loved them and decided to buy them.
Both of them - whenever I try to install them, the download seemingly goes through, reaches 100%, I get a popup saying "Can't install X, Try again and if it still doesn't work, see common...".
The games do appear on the phone and I can run them, but they both getting stuck at loading.
Researching some more, I found out that their OBB's are missing, which I know they should have since I installed them manually before.
I obviously tried uninstalling and reinstalling (both in the refund period and after it passed), clearing the phone's caches using TWRP and SDMaid, clearing Play Store's data, searching my entire phone (including root sections) for leftover files - still can't resolve it.
Other games install and run correctly, OBBs are downloaded - just not for these two.
I also tried different networks (4g as well as WiFi), installing using the Play Games app, and the games do appear and install on other devices with Family Library.
First time I meet this behavior, thought I'd ask.
Morally speaking, yeah, I gave the games a go, was impressed, bought them, supported devs, waited out the refund period - so yeah, I'm left with a technical, not a moral issue.
EDIT: I was able to get both running by installing them on another device I own, sending the OBB file to myself, backing up the game files and data using TiBa and restoring them on my device.
No idea if the game will update, but the same error appears when I try to uninstall and reinstall via Play Store.
@munky-head
All apps (root or not) have a default data directory, which is /data/data/<package_name>
That's how I would do it - in order to not lose app's data
Save data related to apps in question to PC or phone's external sd-card
Uninstall the apps in question
Clear Android's system cache
Clear Google Play Store's cache
Install the apps in questions from Google Play Store
Restore the apps' related data
jwoegerbauer said:
@munky-head
All apps (root or not) have a default data directory, which is /data/data/<package_name>
That's how I would do it - in order to not lose app's data
Save data related to apps in question to PC or phone's external sd-card
Uninstall the apps in question
Clear Android's system cache
Clear Google Play Store's cache
Install the apps in questions from Google Play Store
Restore the apps' related data
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Thanks for replying.
Basically, I did the said process, just using TiBa.
Installing from the Store still fails, which is weird, and slightly worrying.
Either way, I paid for both, and own them both on PC, so developers weren't wronged ?