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Hi all,
I'm a bit of a n00b at this, so please forgive me.
I started with Android 4.1.2, Kernel 3.4.0-g298631f-02047-gec59411, build 10.1.C.0.370.
I rooted it using Doomlord's easy-root and then when attempting to flash custom recovery, I accidentally flashed some other .img and the tablet wouldn't even turn on. I cried. Like, a few good tears.
Went online, found out I wasn't screwed, and figured out how to flash SGP312_10.4.B.0.577_VMo DE_1273-3719_WIFI312G.
But, as I said, I lost root, and am confused about how to downgrade back to 4.1.2 properly without bricking.
Here is my current info:
Version 4.3, Kernel 3.4.0-g1b44cd5, build 10.4.b.0.577
In this thread, under "Downgrade your rom" and "back to 4.1.2 and rooting" it says "if you're in 4.3, Flash this SGP 351 4.1.2 FTF using Flash Tool and it will be booted in 4.1.2. if you have different Variant downgrade to your Variant FTF file"
What is a variant FTF file? Can I just use any SGP 312 4.1.2 FTF? Does anyone know a safe one to use?
Thanks!
Just wipe EVERYTHING on flashtools. Make sure that you have al wipe checked, and press start flashing.
But be careful, sometimes, bootloader is messed up with updates, not sure if it is your case because i don't have a SGP312. Instead i have the LTE variant, wich turned itself into an stubborn piece of technology LOL
Sent from my little big badass boy!
worf_1977 said:
Just wipe EVERYTHING on flashtools. Make sure that you have al wipe checked, and press start flashing.
But be careful, sometimes, bootloader is messed up with updates, not sure if it is your case because i don't have a SGP312. Instead i have the LTE variant, wich turned itself into an stubborn piece of technology LOL
Sent from my little big badass boy!
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Thanks for the response!
Just not sure what you mean by "wipe everything". What am I flashing it with? Which firmware? And what's "al wipe"?
I tried posting a screenshot of the flash tools but as a new user I can't do it. Sorry for being a n00b.
UberBaumer said:
Thanks for the response!
Just not sure what you mean by "wipe everything". What am I flashing it with? Which firmware? And what's "al wipe"?
I tried posting a screenshot of the flash tools but as a new user I can't do it. Sorry for being a n00b.
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I believe by "wipe everything" and "al wipe", they mean select to wipe APPSLOG, CACHE, and DATA during the flashing process. The flash tool you need can be downloaded from HERE. You can download a US version of the firmware from my post HERE.
Cat McGowan said:
I believe by "wipe everything" and "al wipe", they mean select to wipe APPSLOG, CACHE, and DATA during the flashing process. The flash tool you need can be downloaded from HERE. You can download a US version of the firmware from my post HERE.
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THANK YOU, SIR.
I really appreciate it!
Back onto 4.1 and just rooted again. Now I just need to manage not screwing up installing CWM like I did last time!
Grrr...so I'm having trouble again.
When I try flashing CWM it keeps soft-bricking or whatever my tablet. It won't boot and I need to put it into fastboot mode and reflash the firmware.
I'm using the command fastboot flash boot TabZ_DooMLoRD_AdvStkKernel_FW-253-v01.img
Is there a better or another way to get CWM installed?
UberBaumer said:
Grrr...so I'm having trouble again.
When I try flashing CWM it keeps soft-bricking or whatever my tablet. It won't boot and I need to put it into fastboot mode and reflash the firmware.
I'm using the command fastboot flash boot TabZ_DooMLoRD_AdvStkKernel_FW-253-v01.img
Is there a better or another way to get CWM installed?
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TabZ_DooMLoRD_AdvStkKernel_FW-253-v01.img is for the SGP321 running firmware 10.1.1.A.1.253.
You have a SGP312.
TabZ_DooMLoRD_AdvStkKernel_FW-344-v01.img is for the SGP312 running firmware 10.1.C.0.344.
You are running firmware 10.1.C.0.370.
You would probably have better luck trying to install Nut's XZDualRecovery.
Cat McGowan said:
TabZ_DooMLoRD_AdvStkKernel_FW-253-v01.img is for the SGP321 running firmware 10.1.1.A.1.253.
You have a SGP312.
TabZ_DooMLoRD_AdvStkKernel_FW-344-v01.img is for the SGP312 running firmware 10.1.C.0.344.
You are running firmware 10.1.C.0.370.
You would probably have better luck trying to install Nut's XZDualRecovery.
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Jeez, dude, you're totally rocking my world. Thanks a ton for all your help.
I've successfully installed the XZ DualRecovery.
But now something weird is happening: when I try installing various roms (cm-10.2.0-pollux_windy or cm-11-20140418-nightly-pollux_windy) I get the error that it's for the wrong device. It tells me that I have a Pollux, but according to google, Pollux is the LTE version - I most definitely have the SG312 32GB WiFi version).
Did I go wrong somewhere here?
UberBaumer said:
Jeez, dude, you're totally rocking my world. Thanks a ton for all your help.
I've successfully installed the XZ DualRecovery.
But now something weird is happening: when I try installing various roms (cm-10.2.0-pollux_windy or cm-11-20140418-nightly-pollux_windy) I get the error that it's for the wrong device. It tells me that I have a Pollux, but according to google, Pollux is the LTE version - I most definitely have the SG312 32GB WiFi version).
Did I go wrong somewhere here?
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I do not install custom ROMs. No ROM has ever impressed me enough to cause me to want to install it. However, I have read posts regarding your problem in the Xperia Tablet Z Original Android Development forum. Look there and perhaps you will find the answer you need.
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I do not install custom ROMs. No ROM has ever impressed me enough to cause me to want to install it. However, I have read posts regarding your problem in the Xperia Tablet Z Original Android Development forum. Look there and perhaps you will find the answer you need.
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Hmm, I see. I was excited to install Cyanogenmod because I have it on my Samsung Galaxy S3 and enjoy the customization and ability to remove all the bloatware.
According to your signature, I see that you're on 4.2... A few questions:
Did you do this through an official update?
Can I somehow flash 4.2 through recovery mode (so if I decide I don't like it, I can just load a system backup and go back to 4.1.2)?
If I were to update through the automatic system update, I'm assuming I'll lose my root access and won't be able to get back into recovery mode (in case I figure out a way to install a custom rom in the future)?
Is there a way to remove all the sony bloatware without root access (if I were to install an official system update)?
Sorry for all the questions. I'm just trying to get this all figured out before I start downloading all my apps and getting comfortable with the interface.
Thanks again so very much.
UberBaumer said:
Hmm, I see. I was excited to install Cyanogenmod because I have it on my Samsung Galaxy S3 and enjoy the customization and ability to remove all the bloatware.
According to your signature, I see that you're on 4.2... A few questions:
Did you do this through an official update?
Can I somehow flash 4.2 through recovery mode (so if I decide I don't like it, I can just load a system backup and go back to 4.1.2)?
If I were to update through the automatic system update, I'm assuming I'll lose my root access and won't be able to get back into recovery mode (in case I figure out a way to install a custom rom in the future)?
Is there a way to remove all the sony bloatware without root access (if I were to install an official system update)?
Sorry for all the questions. I'm just trying to get this all figured out before I start downloading all my apps and getting comfortable with the interface.
Thanks again so very much.
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When I first received my XTZ, it was running 4.1.2. I gained root access using DooMLoRD's Easy Rooting Toolkit. I also installed SuperSU Pro and enabled its Survival mode and Install SuperSU into /system settings. Doing that allowed me to update firmware builds via OTA twice without losing root access. I have chosen not to update to 4.3 for various reasons; however, I did attempt updating to 4.3 via OTA like I have in the past, but the update failed to install. And from what I have seen of 4.4.2 on my son's Nexus 7, I may chose not to update to 4.4.2 also. My 4.2.2 install is working flawlessly and my XTZ does everything I need it to do, so I see no reason for updating yet. I live by the aphorism "If it's not broken, don't fix it."
If you install 4.2.2 (via flashing, you can no longer do it via OTA), you can use Vroot - English version to gain root access. Be aware that in the past, Vroot had a bad reputation regarding its loading unwanted apps during the root process, but I believe xda-developers and Mgyun-team (Vroot developers) had a talk and Mgyun-team has since changed their ways. In my opinion, Vroot is now safe to use. Many people have posted saying they have used it and have not experienced any problems.
I do not know of any way to remove bloatware without having root access.
Cat McGowan said:
When I first received my XTZ, it was running 4.1.2. I gained root access using DooMLoRD's Easy Rooting Toolkit. I also installed SuperSU Pro and enabled its Survival mode and Install SuperSU into /system settings. Doing that allowed me to update firmware builds via OTA twice without losing root access. I have chosen not to update to 4.3 for various reasons; however, I did attempt updating to 4.3 via OTA like I have in the past, but the update failed to install. And from what I have seen of 4.4.2 on my son's Nexus 7, I may chose not to update to 4.4.2 also. My 4.2.2 install is working flawlessly and my XTZ does everything I need it to do, so I see no reason for updating yet. I live by the aphorism "If it's not broken, don't fix it."
If you install 4.2.2 (via flashing, you can no longer do it via OTA), you can use Vroot - English version to gain root access. Be aware that in the past, Vroot had a bad reputation regarding its loading unwanted apps during the root process, but I believe xda-developers and Mgyun-team (Vroot developers) had a talk and Mgyun-team has since changed their ways. In my opinion, Vroot is now safe to use. Many people have posted saying they have used it and have not experienced any problems.
I do not know of any way to remove bloatware without having root access.
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Damn, maybe I was a bit too hasty in rooting my tablet; why is it that I can no longer to OTA updates? If I were to buy SuperSU PRO (for survival mode) is there any benefit to me? I see that it allows for OTA updates.
I am currently rooted via Superuser (by clockworkmod).
When you say I'll need to install 4.2.2 by flashing, you mean through Flashtool, right? Which build should I get (and where, one of the development forums)?
Is the reason why one is advised to install custom roms via recovery mode in order to maintain root access (which I'm assuming doesn't happen if you flash through Flashtool)?
Something I forgot to mention earlier is that I did unlock the bootloader. I'm not sure if that helps or hinders me at this point.
Thanks again for taking the time to answer all my questions. I really love this new toy, and I'm so terrified of bricking it.
Cat McGowan said:
If you install 4.2.2 (via flashing, you can no longer do it via OTA), you can use Vroot - English version to gain root access.
I do not know of any way to remove bloatware without having root access.
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If I were to say flash this version: http://android.sc/official-android-4-2-2-on-xperia-tablet-z/ I should still be able to install Vroot, right?
Also, do you just manually remove the bloatware yourself, or is there a particular script/app that goes in and cleans up all the unnecessary stuff?
UberBaumer said:
If I were to say flash this version: http://android.sc/official-android-4-2-2-on-xperia-tablet-z/ I should still be able to install Vroot, right?
Also, do you just manually remove the bloatware yourself, or is there a particular script/app that goes in and cleans up all the unnecessary stuff?
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Android 4.2.2 Jelly Bean 10.3.1.A.0.244 is for the SGP321. You have a SGP312, so you need firmware 10.3.1.C.0.136 (same as mine), which you should be able to download from HERE (upload credit goes to user named spectre51). Flash it then gain root access using Vroot.
Regarding SuperSU Pro versus Superuser, I use Chainfire's SuperSU Pro because it has superior functionality and more options compared to ChainsDD's Superuser. And I use SuperSU Pro because it is more likely to retain root access rights after an OTA update than the free version of SuperSU; e.g., SuperSU Pro provides OTA survival mode, the free version does not.
Regarding uninstalling bloatware, that is something you need to be careful with. Some apps you want to keep have dependencies on apps you consider bloatware and want to uninstall, especially when it concerns system apps. So, investigate the app before you uninstall it. Most times, I use Titanium Backup Pro or ROM Toolbox Pro to uninstall apps that cannot be uninstalled via the Apps list found in the tablet's Settings. At other times, I have had to use a file explorer and text editor to uninstall an app.
Cat McGowan said:
Android 4.2.2 Jelly Bean 10.3.1.A.0.244 is for the SGP321. You have a SGP312, so you need firmware 10.3.1.C.0.136 (same as mine), which you should be able to download from HERE (upload credit goes to user named spectre51). Flash it then gain root access using Vroot.
Regarding SuperSU Pro versus Superuser, I use Chainfire's SuperSU Pro because it has superior functionality and more options compared to ChainsDD's Superuser. And I use SuperSU Pro because it is more likely to retain root access rights after an OTA update than the free version of SuperSU; e.g., SuperSU Pro provides OTA survival mode, the free version does not.
Regarding uninstalling bloatware, that is something you need to be careful with. Some apps you want to keep have dependencies on apps you consider bloatware and want to uninstall, especially when it concerns system apps. So, investigate the app before you uninstall it. Most times, I use Titanium Backup Pro or ROM Toolbox Pro to uninstall apps that cannot be uninstalled via the Apps list found in the tablet's Settings. At other times, I have had to use a file explorer and text editor to uninstall an app.
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Thank you again my friend.
Is there a list of apps that are safe to uninstall, or, rather, a list of apps that I shouldn't tinker with (for fear of uninstalling an app that has a dependency on something critical)?
Also, I'm on the Google Play store and I see both Titanium Backup Pro and Rom Toolbox Pro. Should I buy both? If you had to buy just one, which would it be?
My main goal is to just make the smoothest experience possible. I want to take maximum advantage of the hardware in the tablet and have as few unnecessary programs running as possible.
Hi Everyone,
I've seen this question posted randomly in threads for other topics but didn't see a thread for the question itself so thought Id put it out there because
1. I'm curious to the answer myself.
2. Having this thread might back the search for others with the same question slightly less time consuming and a whole lot easier.
That being said, does anyone out there know of any custom roms for, or ones that will work on, the LG VS810PP (Transpyre)?? Also, since (as far as I can tell) the Transpyre and the LG Tribute are essentially the same phone, could one use a custom rom for the Tribute on the Transpyre? Surely, I wont be stuck with staying on stock! I MUST MOD!!! :cyclops: :fingers-crossed:
Any and all help IS GREATLY and WHOLEHEARTEDLY appreciated! Thanks soooo much in advance.
Calling all Modders! Calling all Modders!
I have this device as well and would love to get off the stock Rom an instal CM or other, hate the bloatware an Rom over all seems sluggish. I am sure there is someone with the knowledge out there that has this device an can help!!!!! Calling all Transpyre Modders! Its time to Rom Out!
Root, but no rom
Im a Transpyre user and was able to succesfully root but have yet to find any custom roms. in the meantime i have removed lots of bloatware and things are running a lil better and my battery is lasting a bit longer.
I was able to root, de-bloat and install TWRP. I also made a backup and was able to restore. I know that's not much info but every little bit helps.
Twrp backup needed vs810pp
lukedobson1980 said:
I was able to root, de-bloat and install TWRP. I also made a backup and was able to restore. I know that's not much info but every little bit helps.
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Could you please send me one of your backups so I can straighten. My system out ty
lukedobson1980 said:
I was able to root, de-bloat and install TWRP. I also made a backup and was able to restore. I know that's not much info but every little bit helps.
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A backup of the stock recovery? If so I'd love one of those right now, can't install 5.1.1 OTA without it (and I don't think I can install 5.1.1 with TWRP without someone making a custom flashable ROM?).
Does anyone have a list of the bloatware I can safely disable or uninstall? A short description of it would also be nice if possible to see if it's something I need or not. I am rooted and also have the transpyre. Not a bad phone for the price.
Same here I've been scouring the net looking for a custom Rom for the transpyre but cannot seem to find anything for it, makes me wonder why this phone is not so cared for as If it were a contract phone
I know what you mean, I understand wasn't a very popular phone but I know you and I ain't the only ones that have it. Just have to be patient I guess and wait for someone that has worked on it to help is.
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I ended up using the software upgrade assistant to get my transpyre to lollipop at last now I just need a root guide for it
Edit: found a root for it, now all I need is a proper img file for a recovery
root for transpyre lollipop?
What did it take to get root on a transpyre with lollipop 5.1.1 ?
Sakujo said:
I ended up using the software upgrade assistant to get my transpyre to lollipop at last now I just need a root guide for it
Edit: found a root for it, now all I need is a proper img file for a recovery
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I used the kinguser app to get root on it. I doubted it would work but It did The trick. make sure you update the King user app to prevent most apps from saying you don't have root, also, A strange thing happened though I used the jrummy root checker and now it says my phone is an Lg F60. Not sure if that's a bad thing. Also keep in mind you will lose your custom recovery I've been looking for ways to flash the twrp/cwm recoveries but it seems to be locked to the stock recovery. I've been putting it off but I'm going to test pushing the files through adb and see if that does anything. I'll let you know whether It bricks or not
GRRR transpyre root
Any confirmations on kinguser app root for transpyre?
Sakujo said:
I used the kinguser app to get root on it. I doubted it would work but It did The trick. make sure you update the King user app to prevent most apps from saying you don't have root, also, A strange thing happened though I used the jrummy root checker and now it says my phone is an Lg F60. Not sure if that's a bad thing. Also keep in mind you will lose your custom recovery I've been looking for ways to flash the twrp/cwm recoveries but it seems to be locked to the stock recovery. I've been putting it off but I'm going to test pushing the files through adb and see if that does anything. I'll let you know whether It bricks or not
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I used king root to root mine and have had no issue. I used the one for without pc
Sent from my VS810PP using XDA Free mobile app
I unboxed by Transpyre yesterday, it was running 5.1.1
I also used kingroot straight from kingroot.net to root mine, then SuperSU Me Pro to remove the Kingroot Apps. Reliable root now, been debloating today.
Kingroot method works
I also used Kingroot to root my phone then replaced the kingroot app with SuperSU
lukedobson1980 said:
I was able to root, de-bloat and install TWRP. I also made a backup and was able to restore. I know that's not much info but every little bit helps.
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Do you have a backup of your rom? and could you post a link to it?
I was able to root using Kingroot 4.5 and replace it with SuperSU using the "Super-Sume Pro 9.2.1 apk" All newer versions of the Super-Sume Pro .apk hung up during the first phase of its operation and all of the free versions of Super-Sume I had tried (the most recent) caused my phone to hang at the Verizon screen during reboot.
I found a YouTube video:
"How to Install CyanogenMOD 12 on the LG F60 and LG Tribute"
Which claimed the procedure was the same for the Transpyre (vs810pp) and included links to another video:
"How To Install TWRP Recovery on the LG F60, LG Tribute and LG Transpyre"
As well as a download link for "twrp-2.8.6.0-e2nav.img" which is supposed to be correct for the Transpyre (vs810pp) phone.
However after I installed "twrp-2.8.6.0-e2nav.img" I received an error during reboot: "Secure booting Error! Error Code : 1003" Afterword my phone would not do a factory reset, and only displayed that error message on every attempt..
I had since installed:
csmgdl.lgmobile.com/dn/downloader.dev?fileKey=FW07S65232BYAJX41F92ORK/VS810PU4_08_ARB01.kdz
(The factory 5.1.1 ROM which I found here in another thread) restoring the factory recovery ROM using the guide: "How to flash firmware to LG smart phone with LG Flash Tool 2014" I was able to repair the boot error.
How are you guys getting TWRP to work well? Would one of you be kind enough to point me in the direction of the the TWRP file that is successfully being used?
Would any of you guys currently running TWRP be able to provide your bootloader and dependency files?
If so would you kindly make them available over at :
xda-developers - Android Development and Hacking - Miscellaneous Android Development - [RECOVERY][e2nam] TWRP 2.8.5.0 touch recovery LG MS395
It appears that there may be another, far more advanced enthusiast (I believe the author of the "twrp-2.8.6.0-e2nav.img" I mentioned earlier) posting over there who could potentially be able to put together something useful for those of us running the Lollipop 5.1.1 factory ROM.
does anyone have a stock rom? Im seriously screwed here without one
Ok.. so.. I keep seeing people saying there is a way to root still if you are on GOC1.. but I can't find anything that says what that way is. I also see 5.1 roms for this phone, but nothing that says how to install the bootloader it requires to install them. On my old phone, a Droid X2 you had to root before you could install a bootloader before you could install a rom. I am not seeing any straight up guides on here for working with this S4.
What I really want is just a basic root, so I can uninstall all the hardcoded crapware on this phone (NFL Mobile, Trip Advisor, etc..)
Short of that I want to install CM 12.1, which is probably a better route anyway, but the page for that says you must be on so and so bootloader without telling you how to INSTALL said bootloader. I'm totally lost here, things were a bit more straight forward on that old phone.
Edit: Yeah, I think what I really want to do is install CM 12.1, but I don't even know where to start.
you can't install cm12.1 or any version of cyanogenmod. the bootloader on this device is locked, meaning no custom recovery and ROMs. there is one bootloader that is the target of an exploit called Loki (basically, boot images and recoveries have to be patched in order to work, most popular ones are) but it only works with VRUAMDK, a bootloader that shipped with the device in like July 2013 when the s4 first released.
for oc1, you can root using the kingroot desktop version. Google it
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you can't install cm12.1 or any version of cyanogenmod. the bootloader on this device is locked, meaning no custom recovery and ROMs. there is one bootloader that is the target of an exploit called Loki (basically, boot images and recoveries have to be patched in order to work, most popular ones are) but it only works with VRUAMDK, a bootloader that shipped with the device in like July 2013 when the s4 first released.
for oc1, you can root using the kingroot desktop version. Google it
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Kingroot doesn't work. I don't know what its saying in the orange text after I run it since its not in english, but it doesn't work.
I did some rough translations of kingroot statements here from someone's pictures using google trans. Maybe they'll help.
also, people have said that if kingroot fails the first time, uninstall, restart comp and reinstall before trying again, as the system tends to stay on even after closing the program.
p.s. probably not worth mentioning, but, remember to have USB debugging turned on.
As far as ROMs if and when you get root, you need flashfire and Stangs ROM. It's modded and debloated OC1
Try getting KingRoot desktop version 3.0 I just used it on Version I545VRUGOC1 that I did the OTA update with and got it rooted I can use Titanium Backup to remove all samsung Knox and other bloat wear.
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I did some rough translations of kingroot statements here from someone's pictures using google trans. Maybe they'll help.
also, people have said that if kingroot fails the first time, uninstall, restart comp and reinstall before trying again, as the system tends to stay on even after closing the program.
p.s. probably not worth mentioning, but, remember to have USB debugging turned on.
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I gave kingroot another try since I had rebooted a couple of times since making this post, it worked this time! Huge thanks for that tip.
XxD34THxX said:
As far as ROMs if and when you get root, you need flashfire and Stangs ROM. It's modded and debloated OC1
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Thank your for that. Flashfire is in the process of installing the rom. We'll see how it goes.
DiaSin did everything work out for you? Kingroot desktop makes me nervous. I download the desktop version and it didn't work for me so I tried to uninstall the desktop version and it wouldn't uninstall from my computer.
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DiaSin did everything work out for you? Kingroot desktop makes me nervous. I download the desktop version and it didn't work for me so I tried to uninstall the desktop version and it wouldn't uninstall from my computer.
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Just use the KingRoot app to root. It worked for me on first try.
I was able to accomplish a Full Root on the latest OTA update on the phone.
Previously I was running Stock 4.4.4 KitKat with SuperSu and had issues with the OTA, since I had removed Apps.
I installed the Stock 4.4.4 ftf to the phone using the flashtool.
Then was successful in receiving the Prompt to update.
After Update, I installed. "Kingroot" for android. just google it. NOT KINGOROOT or any other.
After running kingroot, King User was installed.
In my experience, no other root method will achieve full root. I was not happy with using Kinguser, since i was a Supersu fan. But anytime I successfully removed kinguser, to swap for Supersu, I had lost partial root access, and could not uninstall apps. I could only Freeze.
I also tried Superuser, but only kinguser allowed me to fully uninstall bloatware, and other apps from the phone.
Just thought I would share.
Thanks, Iambedook. Every experience helps. Kingoroot got me into trouble once before in the past.
Can you flash back to 4.4 from 5.1.1?
iambedook said:
I was able to accomplish a Full Root on the latest OTA update on the phone.
Previously I was running Stock 4.4.4 KitKat with SuperSu and had issues with the OTA, since I had removed Apps.
I installed the Stock 4.4.4 ftf to the phone using the flashtool.
Then was successful in receiving the Prompt to update.
After Update, I installed. "Kingroot" for android. just google it. NOT KINGOROOT or any other.
After running kingroot, King User was installed.
In my experience, no other root method will achieve full root. I was not happy with using Kinguser, since i was a Supersu fan. But anytime I successfully removed kinguser, to swap for Supersu, I had lost partial root access, and could not uninstall apps. I could only Freeze.
I also tried Superuser, but only kinguser allowed me to fully uninstall bloatware, and other apps from the phone.
Just thought I would share.
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I'd love to try this, but I'm kinda unwilling/aprehensious to take the chance with rooting apps. Can you confirm that you can use flashtool to revert back to 4.4? I just know Verizon would block such a thing in an update, they can be jerks. (like the moto razr maxx hd) Any insight is appreciated.
Astoras said:
I'd love to try this, but I'm kinda unwilling/aprehensious to take the chance with rooting apps. Can you confirm that you can use flashtool to revert back to 4.4? I just know Verizon would block such a thing in an update, they can be jerks. (like the moto razr maxx hd) Any insight is appreciated.
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Yes, you can revert back to 4.4.4 through Flashtool. Doing so though, you will not have Advanced Calling or the refreshing Lollipop UI. Also, unless you do something about it, you will be promptly reminded all the time to update to 5.1.1.
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Yes, you can revert back to 4.4.4 through Flashtool. Doing so though, you will not have Advanced Calling or the refreshing Lollipop UI. Also, unless you do something about it, you will be promptly reminded all the time to update to 5.1.1.
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Giga,
If I use this method to root 5.1.1., can I install dual recovery and Camera 2 and the FM tuner app? I'd also like the updated flashlight you put together but don't see that as a separate install. Should I wait or go ahead with this method for root?
Thanks, Pat
pvcdroid said:
Giga,
If I use this method to root 5.1.1., can I install dual recovery and Camera 2 and the FM tuner app? I'd also like the updated flashlight you put together but don't see that as a separate install. Should I wait or go ahead with this method for root?
Thanks, Pat
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You may root, but I would advise against anything else. the Z5 Camera is most likely not compatible for our phones on 5.1.1, and neither is the FM Tuner. It's a whole lot I can't touch base on yet.
Astoras said:
I'd love to try this, but I'm kinda unwilling/aprehensious to take the chance with rooting apps. Can you confirm that you can use flashtool to revert back to 4.4? I just know Verizon would block such a thing in an update, they can be jerks. (like the moto razr maxx hd) Any insight is appreciated.
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I was able to flash back to 4.4.4 after i messed things up, but after going back to 4.4.4 i am struggling to get back to 5.1.1. The updates are not appearing, stating I am at the latest version.
I would also like a confirm if this. Because I'm sitting around and waiting for a rooted 5.1.1 copy for the phone. Im on 5.0.2 right now and all is working good but still waiting. Thanks all.
I'm going to see if I can root after upgrading to 5.1.1, but I have the stock firmware just incase.
Just uploaded a rooted twrp backup with real superuser ++++much more
Tigerhoods said:
Just uploaded a rooted twrp backup with real superuser ++++much more
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Wow!!! That sounds great, thanks Tiger
thals1992 said:
I'm going to see if I can root after upgrading to 5.1.1, but I have the stock firmware just incase.
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Just an FYI, after I needed to revert to 4.4.4. I was struggling to receive updates to get back to 5.1.1. I had to use the Flashtool, 3-5 times to get the correct update prompts to appear. If anyone else had similar issues when reverting back, let me know, but re flashing repeatedly worked for me.
Tigerhoods said:
Just uploaded a rooted twrp backup with real superuser ++++much more
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Wow,
Download url please
immtu said:
Wow,
Download url please
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Just scroll down to the z3v dev section.
I was actually able to flash the stock ftf coming 5.0.2. I had to flash it with default options the first time with it failing. I then found that I have to basically flash noting to clear the error on the phone by checking everything in exclude and the other exclude box where it shows its not displaying any files in the middle of the window.
Once that went through, I was able to upgrade from stock to .44 and then the the two updates for 5.1.1. After all that I reset to factory again to test on rooting the phone. I was too, able to obtain root with King Root. I was able to install zxrecovery and xposed with no problems. I'm actually used to King Root as I had to use it on the Verizon branded 7" tablet that didn't have any other possible methods previously. I also found that Busybox was slightly out of date (difference of 2.0) and installed to /sbin which wasn't too big of an issue.
Beyond that my phone seems to get pretty warm and typically complains about not charging even on a 2 Amp charger.
Can you tell me how you avhieved root because i want it but i can't revert to kitkat for some reason (flashtool won't recognise the update file) and I'm on lollipop. I've tried kingroot(app version) and it didn't work,tried reverting didn't work and tried all the framaroot,towelroot and such apps but none worked. I want working root,xposed and twrp. I can't find any way to do it please help.
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Can you tell me how you avhieved root because i want it but i can't revert to kitkat for some reason (flashtool won't recognise the update file) and I'm on lollipop. I've tried kingroot(app version) and it didn't work,tried reverting didn't work and tried all the framaroot,towelroot and such apps but none worked. I want working root,xposed and twrp. I can't find any way to do it please help.
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Try King root again. I used their apk on the phone. It rebooted once at 30%, but when I got back in the app after the reboot, it successfully rooted the device.
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Try King root again. I used their apk on the phone. It rebooted once at 30%, but when I got back in the app after the reboot, it successfully rooted the device.
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Well when i tried i did it 3 times and it failed,never rebooted. I have z3 international or 6603 i think
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Well when i tried i did it 3 times and it failed,never rebooted. I have z3 international or 6603 i think
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Thats why then. This is only for the Z3v the Verizon variant.
Hi there,
New to the forum. After several hours of reading and searching, I became bewildered enough to decide to register and post .
This thread looked promising. I'm currently on rooted 4.4.4 with this phone. I also have a custom recovery installed. Im trying to get to 5.1.1. As of right now, I assume my only option is to wait for a 5.1.1 ftf so that I can update, because the OTA updates won't work (phone reboots into the custom recovery and the update is interrupted).
Is there an easier way to get the OTA? Or am I stuck waiting for an ftf?
To be clear, my goal is to be on 5.1.1 with root. But at this point I don't think I can get to 5.1.1 at all.
Hi guys,
first of all I want to salut everybody here as I am completely new to the Android world and that's indeed the best resource online. Thanks for that.
Now my big problem. As from the title, I downgrade my Fire HD 6 (4th gen) to 4.5.3 with adb sideload to root it with kingroot and everything went fine. I have then installed TWRP and everything went fine. I have then used TWRP to go back to 5.3.1 and I lost root and recovery. I managed to gain my root privileges back but as for the recovery not a chance. I tried to install TWRP again with dd from adb shell (as I can su) but once again nothing. Checking with fastback getval all, I do have a locked bootload:
Is this the reason why TWRP doesn't run anymore?
If yes, how can I unlock it back?
Is this what's meant with boot loader loop?
Thank you all in advance!
Edit 1:
maybe cuber.py may help but I can't find this file.
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ok found the tools here https://forum.xda-developers.com/kindle-fire-hdx/development/tools-create-unlock-img-fix-boot-img-t3050689
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I tried with cuber.py but the tool can't sign the img because it's not ANDROID. That's what it says. Now I am really stuck. Help please!
LM
I was in the exact same situation, so maybe I can offer some insight. I also have an HD 6 running 5.3.1 that I have downgraded to get root then upgraded a few times. Let me say that I am still learning too, and am by no means an expert but I can try to help.
As far as losing root, i'm not sure as that never happened to me. Did you flash the most up-to date SuperSu with TWRP or did you just answer yes when TWRP prompted you if you wanted root privileges? Flashing a SuperSu through TWRP will give you the SuperSu icon on your home screen once you upgrade back to 5.3.1, whereas just letting TWRP grant root access won't. You will still have root, but without the icon there's no direct control over it (at least not that I could find) so it's still there, just hidden.
My TWRP also replaced by the stock recovery upon updating back to 5.3.1. As far as I know, this is unavoidable. I believe it's as you suspect and is due to the 5.3.1 bootloader being locked. This would also explain why the process for rooting 5.3.1 is so involved as opposed to just using something like Kingroot. I also don't think there's anyone still doing active development on the HD 6 / HD 7.
If you really want to have both root and TWRP, you could try downgrading to an older OS that still has the feel of 5.3.1. I'm not sure about any other versions, but 5.1.1 is rootable via Kingroot (which should mean that it has an unlocked bootloader) and has the same exact UI as 5.3.1. So if you're feeling adventurous try downgrading to 4.5.3, installing TWRP, and upgrading to 5.1.1 instead of 5.3.1 (just be sure to block automatic updates!) and see if TWRP is still active. If so, root with Kingroot and you're good. If you still don't have TWRP, at least you're no worse off than you were.
If you do try this, please post your results here. I might try this myself. I am currently running stock. As I said, I went through the process a few times. For some reason SuperSu was causing erratic behavior in some of my apps and when I tried to switch my SU app to kingroot I lost root completely. I really didn't care about root enough to repeat the whole process again, but if I could keep TWRP it might be worth it. Anyway, good luck.
P.S. You may need to try rooting with Kingroot several times for it to work. I know for a fact that it can root 5.1.1 since I've done it on my own HD 6 when I was running 5.1.1. I'm not sure why it fails, but keep trying and eventually it will get root access. You may have to try 6 or 7 times but eventually it will work.
I went back and re-read this thread more carefully:https://forum.xda-developers.com/fire-hd/general/how-to-upgrade-to-lollipop-root-gapps-t3163950 and it turns out that TWRP doesn't play well with any 5.X.X bootloaders. Oh well, I was kind of hoping my idea would work. It turns out that you can use TWRP on your current rooted 5.3.1, but only on a temporary basis. Refer to the above thread post #2 for instructions. Basically, you put the correct 5.3.1 bootloader on your device then run AutoTWRP which will flash 4.5.3 bootloaders and TWRP for you. Reboot into recovery and you have your TWRP. You can then do whatever you want. The downside is that since you are running a 4.5.3 bootloader you can't get back into your OS, only TWRP. And once you flash your 5.3.1 bootloader to get back into your OS, TWRP no longer works. I know it's a pain in the arse having to connect to a PC and run a batch file every time you need to use TWRP, but at least it's a sort of workaround.