Rooting the G900TUVS1FOL1 firmware without Knox trip - T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 5

So I just got on teh internets a G900T with the latest firmware G900TUVS1FOL1 installed, and lo and behold, the Knox was still untripped! This however leads me to a minor dilemma; how can I keep said Knox untripped and root? I noticed in other threads that people have flashed TWRP and supersu for root but does this trip Knox? Is there any method as of now that doesn't? And while we're on the topic, what is the worst that can happen if I do trip knox? I did pay good money for the phone after all and I'd hate to lose good features. Thanks!

THErealYoDa said:
I noticed in other threads that people have flashed TWRP and supersu for root but does this trip Knox? Is there any method as of now that doesn't? And while we're on the topic, what is the worst that can happen if I do trip knox? I did pay good money for the phone after all and I'd hate to lose good features. Thanks!
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Yes flashing TWRP and supersu will trip knox. There is no known method to root the 5.1.1 firmware builds that will not trip knox. Nothing bad (really nothing at all) will happen if you trip knox

Downgrade to CNK2 to root without tripping knox

I should've been more specific, there is no way to root 5.1.1 (lollipop) without tripping knox. I was operating under the basic assumption the OP was sticking with lollipop. NK2 is a KitKat build

Rotting my g900t FOL1
thisisapoorusernamechoice said:
I should've been more specific, there is no way to root 5.1.1 (lollipop) without tripping knox. I was operating under the basic assumption the OP was sticking with lollipop. NK2 is a KitKat build
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Hello! Can you please give me the specific instructions on how to safely root my G900tuvs1fol1 ?! Thank you.

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Towelroot and twrp

I rooted my phone with towelroot. I want twrp but I don't have a computer readily available. I've been looking around if I can flash twrp another way without tripping KNOX or bricking, but I have yet to find a reliable solution. Anyone have any suggestions, solutions, or ideas?
ahrion said:
I rooted my phone with towelroot. I want twrp but I don't have a computer readily available. I've been looking around if I can flash twrp another way without tripping KNOX or bricking, but I have yet to find a reliable solution. Anyone have any suggestions, solutions, or ideas?
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you might be able to install twrp without tripping knox. but if you use it you will most likely trip knox. custom recoveries , kernels and roms all will trip knox and void your warranty. at least with towelroot you can make plenty of modifications. and keep your warranty intact in case you need it in the future/
ahrion said:
I rooted my phone with towelroot. I want twrp but I don't have a computer readily available. I've been looking around if I can flash twrp another way without tripping KNOX or bricking, but I have yet to find a reliable solution. Anyone have any suggestions, solutions, or ideas?
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No, flashing a custom recovery WILL trip knox. What do you need that requires a custom recovery? Most mods can just be manually pushed to the proper location without a custom recovery.
I don't really know about tripping knox but you can install twrp through there app from the play store
Been researching into this issue as well. There must be a way around this because on my old AT&T S5, I tried out Alliance Rom via Safestrap and it never seemed to trip knox as far as I could tell. Knox counter was 0x0 when I got rid of that phone. I may hold off and put TWRP when I pay off the EIP on the phone which should be in a few months.
So basically if you towel rooted your device and installed twrp and you tripped Knox there's no way to reverse backup and untripped Knox putting it back to 0x0 is there?
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xda23 said:
So basically if you towel rooted your device and installed twrp and you tripped Knox there's no way to reverse backup and untripped Knox putting it back to 0x0 is there?
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Towel root will not trip knox. Only custom recoveries and custom rom and kernels trip knox. There is no way to get knox back to 0x0 if you trip it. Maybe in the future, but it seem unlikely. Most of the folks that could figure it out , now work for these companies and r not allowed to share info anymore. The companies motto is "If you can not beat them, then hire them."
At the rate android is going, we might as well buy iphones. Good quote that these companies share is "The android people are free to do exactly what they are told to do. "
O.k. so I towel rooted my device how do I flash roms, kernels without tripping knox? Thanks
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xda23 said:
O.k. so I towel rooted my device how do I flash roms, kernels without tripping knox? Thanks
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You can't...yet. Flashing a recovery, which is needed to flash roms, trips knox. You can flash a kernel in ODIN (rarely) but that will trip knox as well since it isn't signed by Samsung.
aooga said:
You can't...yet. Flashing a recovery, which is needed to flash roms, trips knox. You can flash a kernel in ODIN (rarely) but that will trip knox as well since it isn't signed by Samsung.
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Hey is it possible to flash using flashify? Thanks.
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xda23 said:
Hey is it possible to flash using flashify? Thanks.
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You can flash it, but it will still trip knox when you boot into recovery. What I really don't understand (no offense), is why people care about knox. Tmobile doesn't. So unless you live outside the US, it really doesn't matter.
aooga said:
What I really don't understand (no offense), is why people care about knox. Tmobile doesn't.
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If you are planning to use the Jump program, it does matter from what I read on the T-mobile support forum because you will be charged the insurance deductible on the phone if it has been determined that knox has been tripped. One would figure they evaluate these phones to see if they can refurbish them.
Computz said:
If you are planning to use the Jump program, it does matter from what I read on the T-mobile support forum because you will be charged the insurance deductible on the phone if it has been determined that knox has been tripped. One would figure they evaluate these phones to see if they can refurbish them. I suspect it also would matter in trade-in value too if you try to trade in your knox tripped phone to T-mobile.
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This is totally wrong. There are multiple reports of people jumping with Knox tripped. Even I've done it. No one has said they've had to pay anything because of Knox being tripped.
aooga said:
This is totally wrong. There are multiple reports of people jumping with Knox tripped. Even I've done it. No one has said they've had to pay anything because of Knox being tripped.
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That's good to know.. :good: But how much longer will they not care though? Would be nice if it was indefinite. Would, love to TWRP my S5.
Computz said:
That's good to know.. :good: But how much longer will they not care though? Would be nice if it was indefinite. Would, love to TWRP my S5.
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I see no reason why they should care. They flash back everything to stock again using Samsung software that resets everything.

[Q] To Root or not to Root?... that is the question.

Hello guys! I'm new to the S5 section and even more new to the T-Mobile area since I'm on AT&T network. I come from a S4 that I could root without tripping Knox and at least use different variants of TW rooms using Safestrap.
I was under the impression that Tmobile S5 version was not as tight as the AT&T version but after reading a few threads I'm not sure.
I have to say that I love the stock UI of S5 more than the one on the S4. That said I still would like to have more control over a few things.
So I could live with a rooted S5 with Xposed Installer and Wanam and a few other Xposed modules.
But I would not like to trip my phones Knox counter.
I wonder if that is possible under BNH5 firmware and how?
Can I root using Towelroot and intall Xposed, Wanam and a few other customization modules without tripping my phone's Knox counter?
Also Would I be able to go back to a virgin Stock Rom without tripping the counter?
I would appreciate all the help.
Thanks.
chiquito3 said:
I wonder if that is possible under BNH5 firmware and how?
Can I root using Towelroot and intall Xposed, Wanam and a few other customization modules without tripping my phone's Knox counter?
Also Would I be able to go back to a virgin Stock Rom without tripping the counter?
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You cannot root NH5 software directly with towel root, but there is a thread that shows exactly step by step how to downgrade to a version that towel root will root and then go back to the latest. This procedure does NOT trip Knox. Knox is tripped anytime you load a custom recovery or kernel.
So, if you just want root so you can run Xposed and Wannam and what not, that's not a problem and you can odin back to stock if you need to for a return. Look around here on the TMO S5 threads and you'll find all this hashed over and over.
Good Luck!
Hit thanks if I've helped.
chiquito3 said:
Hello guys! I'm new to the S5 section and even more new to the T-Mobile area since I'm on AT&T network. I come from a S4 that I could root without tripping Knox and at least use different variants of TW rooms using Safestrap.
I was under the impression that Tmobile S5 version was not as tight as the AT&T version but after reading a few threads I'm not sure.
I have to say that I love the stock UI of S5 more than the one on the S4. That said I still would like to have more control over a few things.
So I could live with a rooted S5 with Xposed Installer and Wanam and a few other Xposed modules.
But I would not like to trip my phones Knox counter.
I wonder if that is possible under BNH5 firmware and how?
Can I root using Towelroot and intall Xposed, Wanam and a few other customization modules without tripping my phone's Knox counter?
Also Would I be able to go back to a virgin Stock Rom without tripping the counter?
I would appreciate all the help.
Thanks.
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Yes you can root your phone but you will have to roll back the firmware back NE6 and then use towel root. Once you do that, then you can use pc odin to flash the nh5 firmware and use mobile odin pro to flash the NH5 software back onto your phone and retain root. Just remember that you will not trip knox using the method above, but if you flash a custom recovery or non tmo s5 kernel you will trip knox. There are a few threads here that you help you root and upgrade to keep root. Make sure you read thru some of the rooting threads before you do anything to your phone, It is your responsibility to make sure you know how and what your are doing when flash your phone, We are not responsible if you forget to read or flash something that is not for your type of phone, if you brick your phone or if you trip knox. Also Remember that if you do trip knox, there currently is no way to reset the knox counter, so please Do Not Ask.
Have fun and read before you decide to do anything to your phone..
Sorry for the question but could you pont me to the right thread. I found one that wad NJ ot so clear or explicit.
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chiquito3 said:
Sorry for the question but could you pont me to the right thread. I found one that wad NJ ot so clear or explicit.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2784025
chiquito3 said:
Hello guys! I'm new to the S5 section and even more new to the T-Mobile area since I'm on AT&T network. I come from a S4 that I could root without tripping Knox and at least use different variants of TW rooms using Safestrap.
I was under the impression that Tmobile S5 version was not as tight as the AT&T version but after reading a few threads I'm not sure.
I have to say that I love the stock UI of S5 more than the one on the S4. That said I still would like to have more control over a few things.
So I could live with a rooted S5 with Xposed Installer and Wanam and a few other Xposed modules.
But I would not like to trip my phones Knox counter.
I wonder if that is possible under BNH5 firmware and how?
Can I root using Towelroot and intall Xposed, Wanam and a few other customization modules without tripping my phone's Knox counter?
Also Would I be able to go back to a virgin Stock Rom without tripping the counter?
I would appreciate all the help.
Thanks.
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First Question is do you have premium handset protection? If so then I wouldnt worry about Knox at all. Handset protection covers everything including running over your phone with a car . I have had devices that I didnt have insurance on in the past when I was a NOOB that had the warranty flag tripped and never had any problems at T-Mobile with replacing it . T-Mobile would rather replace a knox tripped phone over replacing a phone with a cracked screen because they just re-flash the device and pass it along to the next person . It doesnt cost them anything like it would having to repair cracked screens etc... I have the S5 G900T and I rooted while I was still in the T-Mobile store buying it LOL . The sales guy told me their was no way to root it at the time (which he was wrong ). Anyway I understand kind of why you wouldnt want to trip knox but at the end of the day it really wont matter if tmobile is your carrier . There really isnt a difference between a tripped phone and one that isnt when it comes to getting it replaced . I know this from experience and many many others on XDA will tell you the same .
spirodave said:
T-Mobile would rather replace a knox tripped phone over replacing a phone with a cracked screen because they just re-flash the device and pass it along to the next person ..
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It's my understanding that the KNOX security flag is a electronic fuse. Once tripped it's burned to 1 state and a "re-flash" won't repair that.
That said, I could see T-Mobile taking it back because of the value of the replaceable parts, including an intact display. Enough profit is made on the extended protection plans that T-mobile could grind them all up and use them for fancy pavement surfacing. I've yet, for example to replace "anything" under an extended service plan. I get them to be careful, but there's been plenty of $$$ for those plan providers.
Extended service plans? Total and absolutely guaranteed profit for vendors.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2784025
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I read the towelroot thread but it does not say anything on how to downgrade firmware version.
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hI THIS IS WHAT YOU NEED TO DO
1. DOWNLOAD G900TUVU1ANE6 FULL STOCK TAR FROM HERE https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=23501681358541270
2. uNZIP THE FILE AND FLASH IT USING PC ODIN. WHICH YOU CAN GET HERE https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=23212708291676783
3. ROOT WITH TOWELROOT . TOWELROOT IS HERE https://towelroot.com/
4.DOWNLOAD MOBILE ODIN PRO FROM THE PLAYSTORE IT WILL COST YOU AROUND $6
5.DOWNLOAD THE NEWEST STOCK TAR TMB-G900TUVU1BNH5 FROM SAMMOBILE OR FOR A MUCH FASTER LINK GET IT HERE https://mega.co.nz/#!F0gFFIpL!SdOFS_5OSOB6b1WUSxfVR286LgrAeDdugRRC5-G0dQ8
6. UNZIP THE FILE AND COPY IT TO YOUR SDCARD OR INTERNAL STORAGE ON YOUR PHONE.
7. USING MOBILE ODIN PRO CHOOSE THE OPEN FILE SELECTION AND THEN CHOOSE THE FILE THAT YOU COPIED TO THE PHONE
8. IGNORE THE WARNING FROM MOBILE ODIN REGARDING KNOX. IT WONT TRIP. TICK EVEROOT AND INJECT SUPERSU FLASH THE PHONE .
YOUR PHONE SHOULD BE ROOTED UPON ONCE IT RESTARTS AND ON THE NEWEST FIRMWARE.
YOUR BOOTLOADER CAN NOT BE UPGRADED BY MOBILE ODIN. THAT CAN BE FLASHED SEPERATELY BY USING PC ODIN.LOOK FOR THE BOOTLOADER FILE IF YOU WISH TO UPGRADE IT BUT IN MY OPINION IT IS NOT CRITICAL TO INSTALL AT THIS POINT. MOST OF THESE FILES CAN BE FOUND HERE http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2761412 OR HERE http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2715487
IF YOU CANT FIND SOMETHING USE GOOGLE.
FINALLY WHATEVER HAPPENS TO YOUR PHONE IS SOLELY YOUR RESPONSIBILITY.
I WOULD READ THESE THREADS BEFORE DOIN G ANYTHING
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2790292 http://forum.xda-developers.com/tmobile-galaxy-s5/general/nh5-stock-rom-ur-phone-to-stock-t2901732 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2784025 http://forum.xda-developers.com/tmo...all-updatetmb-g900tuvu1bnh5-size-1-5-t2873090 http://forum.xda-developers.com/tmo.../experimental-how-to-root-triggering-t2845421
LASTLY YOU NEED TO KNOW THAT XPOSED DOES NOT PLAY WELL WITH THE S5 IT BREAKS PRIVACY MODE S HEALTH CAUSES LAG AND IS ONLY USEFUL ON DALVIK. ONCE ANDROID L IS RELEASED . IT WILL BE USING THE ART ANDROID RUNTIME WHICH IS NOT COMPATIBLE WITH XPOSED .
HAVE FUN!

to root or not to root

I've just bought edge few days ago and wanted to know if rooting was worth it.
Will fingerprint still work?
Will i lose any functions?
is it easy to remove root and go back to stock?
which custom rom is most stable?
thanks
Will fingerprint still work? DEPENDS ON THE METHOD OF ROOT
Will i lose any functions? SAME AS ABOVE
is it easy to remove root and go back to stock? YES
which custom rom is most stable? I like Xtestolite with the newest unikernal
Running 5.0.2, rooted with Ping Pong Root.
Fingerprint unlock still works.
Haven't noticed any functionality failure, aside from no OTA updates...
As for unrooting, there are guides out there on the internets, however, from my understanding it boils down to "Use smart switch".
Can't speak on custom roms yet. Haven't taken the plunge and given up my Knox status... yet.
There doesn't appear to be an exploit for 5.1.1 yet (please someone correct me) to allow us to root 5.1.1 without flashing (and therefore tripping Knox) unless you are running a T-Mobile specific variant of our beautiful phone.
Hope that helps?
Mischala said:
Running 5.0.2, rooted with Ping Pong Root.
Fingerprint unlock still works.
Haven't noticed any functionality failure, aside from no OTA updates...
As for unrooting, there are guides out there on the internets, however, from my understanding it boils down to "Use smart switch".
Can't speak on custom roms yet. Haven't taken the plunge and given up my Knox status... yet.
There doesn't appear to be an exploit for 5.1.1 yet (please someone correct me) to allow us to root 5.1.1 without flashing (and therefore tripping Knox) unless you are running a T-Mobile specific variant of our beautiful phone.
Hope that helps?
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You say installing custom roms will affect knox. That is not entirely true. As long as the rom is based on the original kernel k box should stay 0*0
Snowby123 said:
You say installing custom roms will affect knox. That is not entirely true. As long as the rom is based on the original kernel k box should stay 0*0
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I was under the impression that flashing Anything that was not a signed Samsung package would trip the knox bit.
can you link any technical explanation on how the Knox detection functions? I haven't been able to find anything about it except Samsung's spiel about how Knox protects corporate users.
Mischala said:
I was under the impression that flashing Anything that was not a signed Samsung package would trip the knox bit.
can you link any technical explanation on how the Knox detection functions? I haven't been able to find anything about it except Samsung's spiel about how Knox protects corporate users.
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Honestly I understand little of the technical jargon but I have proof that not all roms trip knox
Some useful info. Thanks all.
I've updated to the 5.1.1 so probably won't root for the time being as seems some have faced issue.
riz157 said:
Some useful info. Thanks all.
I've updated to the 5.1.1 so probably won't root for the time being as seems some have faced issue.
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Nothing wrong with that. Although root has both pros and cons, it is only useful for some. No matter which you choose, it will be a good choice.

Lolipop been out for a while now. Is it time to update?

Well it's been out for a while now is most of the bugs and apps not working resolved with the Lolipop? It it worth updating? To update do I need to use towelroot and unroot it than install or can I get it to just update? I am currently no knock tripped at Kitkat using Towelroot. I only use root for a few things like Titanium Backup.
If you want to keep root, wait until muniz_ri puts out a rooted stock rom for the newest one OJ4, and use flashfire to update. I'm on OG6 and it's pretty buggy, so I wouldn't recommend it. From what I've read, OJ4 fixes a lot of the bugs from OG6.
Well I want to keep root and the Knox not tripped. From what I understood you can still root it but you can't use Xposed Framework yet. I am not using custom ROMS or recovery as that would trip Knox.
If you update to lollipop and root, knox will be tripped. There is no avoiding it. You've been warned.
Than why am I reading a bunch of threads that say you can update to Lolipop and keep Knox not tripped? It seems to be possible but what are the exact steps required to update I know it's not use the OTA update from the phone as that will trip it.

Quick Question...

Question for you all...
I been seeing in a few spots this should be possible but I like to be safe rather than sorry.
Is it possible to do the following on a US Cellular S6 Edge Model: SM-G925R4? :
1 ) Downgrade to a Pingroot capable stock rom.
2) Use the root from that to use FlashFire to install something like CM.
3) Not Trip Knox.
If this is possible then can you extract and use Samsung Pay but using something like rootcloak on it with knox not tripped or is that not safe?
It doesnt work for my bank yet but it would be nice to have in the future.
TULOA said:
Question for you all...
I been seeing in a few spots this should be possible but I like to be safe rather than sorry.
Is it possible to do the following on a US Cellular S6 Edge Model: SM-G925R4? :
1 ) Downgrade to a Pingroot capable stock rom.
2) Use the root from that to use FlashFire to install something like CM.
3) Not Trip Knox.
If this is possible then can you extract and use Samsung Pay but using something like rootcloak on it with knox not tripped or is that not safe?
It doesnt work for my bank yet but it would be nice to have in the future.
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if u trip knox samsung will not work
installing custom rom like cm or something else will trip knox
if u want samsung pay dont root or do anything
I understand that but that wasnt my question.
Trying to find about doing the steps above.
Install official samsung down to rootable firmware then use that root with flashfire. Was told that method could work. However if I can just get root from a downgrade ill be happy.
Downgrading could be possible with Odin depending on y your firmware version. You can always try installing the earliest firmware for that particular variant. Worst thing to happen would be a failure of installation. The earliest firmware versions are compatible with pingpongroot , but if the su binaries are detected Samsung pay will fail no matter what
Yea and thats what rootcloak is for. But are all bootloaders locked based on date or carrier?
Version on mine:
G925R4TYU3CPB4
Now I suppose if I can flash an earlier stock will it trip knox? Also what would happen if it fails? Just says error and thats it?
TULOA said:
Yea and thats what rootcloak is for. But are all bootloaders locked based on date or carrier?
Version on mine:
G925R4TYU3CPB4
Now I suppose if I can flash an earlier stock will it trip knox? Also what would happen if it fails? Just says error and thats it?
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It is completely based on date. When I tried flashing an early firmware on my galaxy s4 installation failed and I just got a 'fail' message in Odin. No Knox issues. I would assume that would happen with you. Go give it a try. I am rather confident that it will fail on your device, but if it does no worries, just restore the latest firmware and live without root

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